Doctor Who Discussion Thread: Series 8: TONIGHT 7:50pm BBC1

[Saph]

I want Cassandra to return

[Marsh.]

I enjoyed Jenna Louise Coleman.

She's turned into a very good actress since Emmerdale.

But the stories are getting worse. Moffat wrote some of the best ones when he was just on the writing staff but I've hated the show since he became showrunner. Amy/Rory/River stuff was pap.

Time he moved on.

Having said that, from the episode posters I'm interested in "Hide", that one looks good.

[james130]

I want Cassandra to return
:worship:

[Tom4784]

I enjoyed Jenna Louise Coleman.

She's turned into a very good actress since Emmerdale.

But the stories are getting worse. Moffat wrote some of the best ones when he was just on the writing staff but I've hated the show since he became showrunner. Amy/Rory/River stuff was pap.

Time he moved on.

Having said that, from the episode posters I'm interested in "Hide", that one looks good.

TBH Moffat's worst episodes are still better then the majority of episodes written by Russell T. Davies.

[arista]

BBC America funding this now
has changed it.


Its Far Worse/

[Suze]

The Library episode where River was uploaded into the Library, well the DR must remember stuff after his reincarnation, so shouldn't he have remembered River later on in the series? But he doesn't always seem to.

[Jarrod]

Enjoyed last night's episode. The news that David/Billie are back for the 50th? OMD.

[Glenn.]

TBH Moffat's worst episodes are still better then the majority of episodes written by Russell T. Davies.

This.

I think Moffat has done amazing with the show. Amy's story is one fine example.

[Vanessa]

I wonder who will be the next doctor. :suspect:

[james130]

TBH Moffat's worst episodes are still better then the majority of episodes written by Russell T. Davies.
:nono:

[Tom4784]

The Library episode where River was uploaded into the Library, well the DR must remember stuff after his reincarnation, so shouldn't he have remembered River later on in the series? But he doesn't always seem to.

He knows her future but he can't change it since it would change his past.

[Roy Mars III]

:nono:


Davies played on people's emotions not caring about the story. It is a cheap trick

[Scarlett.]

Anyone notice this?

http://www.scifinow.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Doctor.jpg
http://s2.hubimg.com/u/776573_f260.jpg

[Scarlett.]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGykc7DCcAAosDh.jpg:large

[Glenn.]

It's only David and billie back then. It must of been the read through today

[Scarlett.]

I'm glad, I'd hoped 9 would be back too, but I'm glad they're not throwing as many as possible past characters in.

[Glenn.]

Apparently 9 is in talks. Just read it on DS :amazed:

[Scarlett.]

Awesome :D I'd love for Eccleston to come back. Though, wouldn't it be a bit too late to be in talks?

[Glenn.]

Apparently the news is from a genuine source so who knows? He may only have a small part :shrug:

[Jarrod]

Read through's for DW happen more than once. This is the first in a long long long line i should suspect... However shooting begins this week.

[Jarrod]

I've got a theory about David/Billie

Will it be Rose and the clone Doctor from the parallel universe? :idc: Remember the finale of Series 4?

[DigitalSid]

I've got a theory about David/Billie

Will it be Rose and the clone Doctor from the parallel universe? :idc: Remember the finale of Series 4?

Rumour is they're filming at the Powell estate next week so series 2 Ten and Rose.

[DigitalSid]

Read through's for DW happen more than once. This is the first in a long long long line i should suspect... However shooting begins this week.

There's one per episode, this was it. Filming starts tomorrow, well, principal filming, there was some Jenna-less in studio stuff last week that was kept secret.

[Jarrod]

This is the final read through.

Okay :idc: We'll find out if it's Series 2 Rose if Billie is supporting that bob cut from the entire series.

[Jarrod]

There's one per episode, this was it. Filming starts tomorrow, well, principal filming, there was some Jenna-less in studio stuff last week that was kept secret.

Some episodes have had more than one it's on the DVD's ect.

[DigitalSid]

Some episodes have had more than one it's on the DVD's ect.

Probably due to rewrites or cast unavailability, either way, this is the final one.

[Jarrod]

Yep okay whatever, not really bothered about it. The filming's where the good stuff comes in :amazed:

Joanna Page (Stacey West in Gavin and Stacey) has been announced as another part of the cast:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGzS7F6CMAAuMjJ.jpg

[DigitalSid]

Yep okay whatever, not really bothered about it. The filming's where the good stuff comes in :amazed:

Joanna Page (Stacey West in Gavin and Stacey) has been announced as another part of the cast:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGzS7F6CMAAuMjJ.jpg

Still would.

[Scarlett.]

Doctor Who tonight!

[DigitalSid]

Doctor Who tonight!

Don't expect much from tonight's ep from reviews, the fan sites didn't like it and even Radio Times criticised it. Seems to be visually impressive but a bit of a dud story, Blogtor compared it to The Beast Below and it does have a LOT of similarities from what we've seen.

[Jarrod]

Don't expect much from tonight's ep from reviews, the fan sites didn't like it and even Radio Times criticised it. Seems to be visually impressive but a bit of a dud story, Blogtor compared it to The Beast Below and it does have a LOT of similarities from what we've seen.

I hated The Beast Below.

[Glenn.]

Starts in 5 minutes :amazed:

[arista]

Made by BBCAmerica
its Rubbish now

[Vanessa]

I'm watching. Can't believe Matt Smith is leaving. :(

[Shaun]

Can't believe Matt Smith is leaving. :(

eh? :suspect:

[Vanessa]

eh? :suspect:

I heard he's leaving after the Christmas Special. Not sure if it' true. :shrug:

[Scarlett.]

Don't expect much from tonight's ep from reviews, the fan sites didn't like it and even Radio Times criticised it. Seems to be visually impressive but a bit of a dud story, Blogtor compared it to The Beast Below and it does have a LOT of similarities from what we've seen.

But arent most second episodes with new companions?

In fact (though the 3rd series one is from Gridlock since they actually had the Doc going back in time in the second episode :joker:)
http://cchronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/endoftheworld11-e1277273354620.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Qoxn1D0Lcug/ToYuIeBUEFI/AAAAAAAAE6o/vhMXQ08a19k/s1600/Gridlock_-_New_New_York.jpg
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/articles/58000/doctor-who_58478_1.jpg?cache=1275563105
http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/rings-akhaten-bbca-promo-8.jpg

Usually second episodes try to introduce the companions a bit more, with them on an alien world, usually trying to cope when seperated from the Doctor, the story is usually secondary.


Edit: Usually I dont usually use usually so often, usually.

[Shaun]

cute episode.

[Glenn.]

It wasn't a bad episode.

It told more of Clara's story and stuff.

Ice Warriors next week :amazed:

[Scarlett.]

I quite liked this episode too, it was definately better than The Beast Below, and I really liked the singing. It was nice to have a Moffat episode that wasnt too twisty and turny. The Doctor's speech to Akhaten was awesome too.

[Glenn.]

That speech :love::worship:

[Scarlett.]

Continuity error? Or something more?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/11fbc5ca95508f6b03902574d571f3b7/tumblr_mkulnzvp1I1ql2sfro1_500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/36947c6f3758eb8fbb4b1dd6f2535592/tumblr_mkulnzvp1I1ql2sfro2_500.jpg

[Scarlett.]

Anyone notice Clara's mum died on the same day that Rose met the Doctor?

http://haveageekasm.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/vlcsnap-2013-04-06-20h45m01s207_thumb.png

http://haveageekasm.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/1986-Rose-Tyler-Poster_thumb.jpg

[Glenn.]

5th of March was went it returned in 2005 right? :suspect:

[Scarlett.]

It aired on the 26th, but it was leaked on the 5th, plus that is when the episode was set, lol

[Jessica.]

Did anyone else think of Marcus when Clara/her mother said "Oh my stars"? :joker:

[DigitalSid]

The poster says 6th but the story took place over 2 days and the final scenes on the second could be past midnight, making it the 6th, with the bulk of the attack, presumably killing Clara's mum, on the 5th. More likely symbolic of the leak though since there's a lot of symbolism around Clara. Victorian birth date on the 23rd of November, the show's anniversary date, surname of the guy who was done for shooting Kennedy the night before the show started in 1963, modern age of 26, the amount of years the original show as on air, twice dead like the show (1989 and 1996 or 85 and 89 depending how you view the hiatus and tv movie), someone kids look up to, being their nanny (the show was originally a children's show and is still a family show).

[Glenn.]

Just watched Saturdays episode again.

There are some major plot holes in the episode like the fact that The Seven Worlds of Akhaten no longer have a sun to orbit or a heat source, but apart from the mistakes it's actually a really decent episode.

It really cemented Clara in nicely, like all second episodes tend to do when introducing a new companion, not so new companion or whichever you prefer.

The Doctor's speech at be end was incredible and brilliantly acted by Matt Smith who I think is now up there with David Tennant. I think he's amazing :love:

I'm glad Jenna is onboard for Series 8 and I just hope the rumours of Matt leaving at Christmas are false. I'd like to see them together for a 13 episode series.

[Scarlett.]

It was a gas giant similar to Saturn, not a sun I think, hence why they can stare at it and not go blind, now the main planet has gone the asteroid 'planets' will probably have to be evacuated, or have some sciency wiency work done on them.

http://media.sfx.co.uk/files/2013/04/doctor-who-rings-of-akhaten-overnights-main.png

[Scarlett.]

Did this scene give anyone a "final episode" feel? Especially when the Doctor says "I've lived a long life", to be honest, this scene might put him alongside Tennant for my favourites.

iUM6NPcwJvs

[Glenn.]

Did this scene give anyone a "final episode" feel? Especially when the Doctor says "I've lived a long life", to be honest, this scene might put him alongside Tennant for my favourites.

iUM6NPcwJvs

Yes it reminded me of The Pandorica Opens speech he made to the spaceships in the sky.

It's an amazing scene :worship: :love:

[Scarlett.]

Leaf mystery solved by reddit

Spoilered for large images
Clara's leaf
http://i.imgur.com/tNisYdo.jpg

Her mother's leaf/book
http://i.imgur.com/zRVxiny.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/h1BIPvG.jpg


So, what is the story behind Clara's leaf?

[Marsh.]

Wasn't that obvious in the episode? :laugh:

[Scarlett.]

Not to me, lol D:

[GypsyGoth]

I just finished watching the most recent ep. They make such a great duo :love:

I thought it looked very star warsy will all of the aliens. And the vampire thing was creepy, as were the guys working for him.

It was a pretty good.

[Daniel R]

I just love Matt's Doctor, I hope he stays for a while yet!

[Scarlett.]

New episode tonight!

[DigitalSid]

New episode tonight!

Other than the finale, this is the one I've been most looking forward to, from reviews it appears to be a very good episode.

[Scarlett.]

You're not looking forward to Journey to the centre of the TARDIS? o:

[DigitalSid]

You're not looking forward to Journey to the centre of the TARDIS? o:

I am, but I'm looking forward to this one more. I'm a bit anxious about that one, we've been waiting for a good look at the rest of the TARDIS for so long and we've heard so much about it that if it would take a pretty amazing set (Michael Pickwoad's a great designer but the budget's not infinite) for it not to be at least slightly disappointing (plus Steve Thompson wrote it).

[Tom4784]

You're not looking forward to Journey to the centre of the TARDIS? o:

That one will be a disappointment, most episodes with interesting names like that always are. The Next Doctor, The Doctor's Daughter etc...

[Marsh.]

I can't wait for Hide.

I love a ghost story. I'm getting a "Blink" vibe from the poster, which can only be a good thing.

http://i2.cdnds.net/13/12/618x437/cult-doctor-who-hide-poster.jpg

[Marcus.]

ohhhh can wait for this

[Glenn.]

You don't have to watch it Marcus :hmph:

[Marcus.]

You don't have to watch it Marcus :hmph:

oh stupid spellings
cant wait to see this :blush2:

[Marcus.]

on now

[DigitalSid]

Loved it, will be interesting to see what nuvians thought of it though, as knowing of and having seen the Ice Warriors more will have no doubt it enhanced it for me. Will say more when I've rewatched it as I spent some bits speculating in my head and missed a few scenes.

That one will be a disappointment, most episodes with interesting names like that always are. The Next Doctor, The Doctor's Daughter etc...

This won't be another ND or DD, the disappointment with those is that it wasn't the next Doctor and that she wasn't The Doctor's daughter, we definitely do see a lot of the TARDIS:
Library, pool and the Eye Of Harmony are all confirmed to appear
Any disappointment will be in the execution, I hope they spent a lot on this episode.

[Scarlett.]

I liked tonights episode. This series has really brought back what I loved about pre-Moffat Doctor Who, while keeping out what I didn't like about RTD Doctor Who. This series has definately benefitted from not having any stupid twists (Having the Doctor 'killed' in S6E1 ruined S6 for me)

[Marsh.]

I loved The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon. I'm not a big fan of Moffat's era, he writes some brilliant stand alone stories but his overall direction for the show has been a mess IMO. The rest of season 6 with River and the resolution to the Doctor "dying" was rubbish but I thought the opening two parter was great. The Silence were a brilliant villain.

As for the new Tardis episode, hope it's better than The Doctor's Wife in terms of production values and sets where they were running down the same plain boring corridor again and again.

[Scarlett.]

I loved The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon. I'm not a big fan of Moffat's era, he writes some brilliant stand alone stories but his overall direction for the show has been a mess IMO. The rest of season 6 with River and the resolution to the Doctor "dying" was rubbish but I thought the opening two parter was great. The Silence were a brilliant villain.

As for the new Tardis episode, hope it's better than The Doctor's Wife in terms of production values and sets where they were running down the same plain boring corridor again and again.

The idea of killing the Doctor off in that episode was fantastic, but you just knew they'd have to use a cop out excuse. I have heard a theory that the GI might actually be 'the Silence' and that he's just been manipulating people from behind the scenes.

I hope so too, as long as we get a few "wow, it's really that big?!" moments, I'll be happy, I'm not gonna go in with my hopes too high, though.

[Scarlett.]

Someone spotted this on Digital Spy
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7065/43917664.jpg

I wonder who Delsa are?

[DigitalSid]

Rumour from a reliable spoiler hound on GB, if true HUGE spoiler for the 50th and for the show's future as a whole.

John Hurt is apparently playing..
Nine.

No, not Eccleston's incarnation, he will now apparently come to be known as Ten Tennant's as Eleven and Matt Smith's as Twelve. Meaning the next Doctor is actually Thirteen, The Doctor's final incarnation according to the classic series rule established in The Deadly Assassin, which Moffat has claimed still applies, of Time Lord's being limited to 12 regenerations.

[Glenn.]

That's probably the most idiotic thing ever.

[Marsh.]

That doesn't make any sense.

But then again nothing Moffat writes ever does.

Are you sure Hurt isn't just supposed to be the 13th and final incarnation or something and has aged?

[DigitalSid]

That's probably the most idiotic thing ever.

That doesn't make any sense.

But then again nothing Moffat writes ever does.

Are you sure Hurt isn't just supposed to be the 13th and final incarnation or something and has aged?

It does, if true:

The Doctor had an incarnation between his Eighth and his Ninth, that he forgot (remember his memory has already been shown to be getting hazy, he could barely remember the Great Intelligence) due to a traumatic event. We never saw Eight become Nine so there's nothing really to contradict this. Not that I'm saying it is true, but it's massive if it is.

[Glenn.]

It does, if true:

The Doctor had an incarnation between his Eighth and his Ninth, that he forgot (remember his memory has already been shown to be getting hazy, he could barely remember the Great Intelligence) due to a traumatic event. We never saw Eight become Nine so there's nothing really to contradict this. Not that I'm saying it is true, but it's massive if it is.

I suppose but my god. Is this messing around with it really needed, just to make a impact?

[Marsh.]

Wasn't the 'event' the time war?

[Scarlett.]

On a different topic, I've just seen this pics of the 2013 TARDIS' control panel, it actually looks like it makes sense, for once

http://whopix.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/2013tardisconsole6.jpg

http://whopix.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/2013tardisconsole1.jpg

http://whopix.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/2013tardisconsole4.jpg

[DigitalSid]

John's jacket looks familiar doesn't it?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIFXOtoCEAAHP1d.jpg:large

Not exactly the same (buttons are different vertical distances) but then Hurt is a few inches shorter than Eccleston and I think it looks similar enough for them to get away with if this whole thing is true, the clothes he's wearing under it look very Eight:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u147/jmctimelord/Doctor%20Who/McGann/Eighth_Doctor_Publicity.jpg

Which would make sense given his positioning in The Doctor's life.

[Scarlett.]

http://i.imgur.com/Hh35WgG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9ZKgm4y.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4rSQ01p.jpg

[DigitalSid]

Finale title revealed, major spoilers:


The Name Of The Doctor

“Someone is kidnapping the Doctor’s friends, leading him towards the one place in all of time and space that he should never go.”

[Scarlett.]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhh Shiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[Scarlett.]

We're going to Trenzalore D:

http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/dwm-460.jpg

[Scarlett.]

Doctor Who day!

[DigitalSid]

Doctor Who day!

Looking forward to tonight, scarier than Blink apparently, plus looks very varied, haunted house, alien planet, The Doctor alone with an alien in an empty forest. Though hopefully it won't go on to become quite as overrated as Blink is.

[Scarlett.]

Looking forward to seeing the Doctor's red spacesuit again, lol

[DigitalSid]

Looking forward to seeing the Doctor's red spacesuit again, lol

It will be a nice bit of continuity yeah.

[DigitalSid]

Not my kind of episode but really enjoyed it.

[Vanessa]

I missed it because of BGT. Was it good ? :hugesmile:

[Scarlett.]

I quite liked it, Clara and the TARDIS arguing was funny, can't wait for next week though.

[DigitalSid]

It was good, probably my favourite of 7B.

[Glenn.]

I haven't seen it yet :sad:

Damn social life getting in the way of important things http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b614/GlennG88/E52E81BB-E7E2-4F2C-8F34-59ABDD40CA93-832-0000006F25E6D1DF_zpscbc993d9.jpg

[Scarlett.]

Weirdly, this episode was filmed like last May/June around the time the first half of the series was filmed, the first thing Matt and Jenna filmed together apparently.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/doctor-who/news/a386032/doctor-who-matt-smith-and-jenna-louise-coleman-first-picture.html

[Scarlett.]

I just realised, this
http://cdn-media.hollywood.com/images/638x425/1806515.jpg

happened at the same time as this

http://media.tumblr.com/080b583ab793cecd1242e14392731ffd/tumblr_ml0li9r6vV1r4q1mro1_500.png

[Scarlett.]

http://i1.cdnds.net/13/17/618x318/uktv-doctor-who-s07-e05-5.jpg

o:

[Scarlett.]

I wonder who these feet belong to?
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/923193_639843756029655_1333391635_n.jpg

[Glenn.]

:amazed:

[DigitalSid]

Matt Smith

[Scarlett.]

and David Tennant

[DigitalSid]

and David Tennant

Yeah but that was obvious, Matt's aren't so obvious as his costume changes every 3 or 4 episodes lately.

[Glenn.]

I think the converse belong to

Donna

Actually :idc:

[Scarlett.]

Yeah but that was obvious, Matt's aren't so obvious as his costume changes every 3 or 4 episodes lately.

True, though they instantlly stood out as 11's shoes for me for some reason :hugesmile:

[Scarlett.]

It's Doctor Day!

[DigitalSid]

I think I liked that, not sure yet though, think I need another watch.

In other news, according to the reliable Mr F, formerly of Gallifrey Base, now of Planet Mondas, this is a full synopsis for The Name Of The Doctor. if true contains huge spoilers for both that ep and the 50th:

Clara is privvy to a conversation she'd rather not have heard. Something rings a bell in her head though. She is remembering the unrememberal!

The Doctor is forced to travel to Trenzalore (which isn't what you think it is!) with RIVER SONG and CLARA

They must enter something they know is a trap. The spring is the Doctor's name. We do not hear this, but River speaks it.

It is a trap laid by the GREAT INTELLIGENCE. He has ALL the Doctor's past trapped in a PANDORICA-like prison and only needs the eleventh Doctor to finish the job!

ALL the other Doctors feature. CLARA tries to save the Doctor, but is splintered in Time similar to the JAGAROTH - these are the "other" Claras met by the Doctor.

It ends with ANOTHER DOCTOR one no one knew existed, being released from a TIME LOCK
John Hurt.

This leads into the SPECIAL EPISODE.

[Scarlett.]

I really liked the episode, it's nice that the Doctor has stopped looking at Clara as a mystery at last, and realised she's still a person. Also, I want to read the timewar book.

[Tom4784]

It was a good episode although the scavenger characters did their best to ruin it. Bad actors, bad characters and there was no point to them whatsoever. It would have been better to just make the episode a double hander between Clara and the Doctor.

[Scarlett.]

The "android" one was the only one who was worth a damn, I wish the other two stayed dead, lol.

[Suze]

I am in the minority here, as I think DW is getting steadily worse and more nonsensical than usual, and am wondering now whether to just give up on it. Pity as it started off with such promise with Matt, the nearest so far to the old DW's.

[Scarlett.]

I've actually found it much better lately, I didn't like series 5 & 6, plus the show has been MUCH more nonsensical in the past, remember the farting aliens? Absorbaloff?

[Tom4784]

Moffet's done a great job with the series, Russell T Davies was fun but he constantly relied on the same tropes and deux ex machinas. Remember when the Daleks were behind nearly all the plots?

[DigitalSid]

Moffet's done a great job with the series, Russell T Davies was fun but he constantly relied on the same tropes and deux ex machinas. Remember when the Daleks were behind nearly all the plots?

No, because they never were.

[Tom4784]

No, because they never were.

Series 1 - Resurrection of the Daleks
Series 2 - The Daleks coming through the portal to take over.
Series 4 - The Daleks are resurrected again by what's his face to destroy Reality.

Three out of four of RTD's series relied on pretty much the same damn story. Never mind the fact that RTD relied on merely repeating phrases over and over to create an illusion of a story arc in each season (Bad Wolf, Torchwood, Harold Saxon, The Bees disappearing/Medusa Cascade). Moffat created actual arcs that aren't reliant on the godamn Daleks making an appearance at the end of nearly every series.

[Glenn.]

The Daleks are contractually obligated to appear in every series. The BBC don't own the rights to the Daleks.

But I agree with Dezzy, the RTD era did seriously overuse the Daleks. He brought them back over and over and wiped them out over and over.

I like how Moffat brought them back in series 5 and let them live, while also keeping them in the background. Even with AotD, he left them to it.

[Scarlett.]

The Daleks are contractually obligated to appear in every series. The BBC don't own the rights to the Daleks.

But I agree with Dezzy, the RTD era did seriously overuse the Daleks. He brought them back over and over and wiped them out over and over.

I like how Moffat brought them back in series 5 and let them live, while also keeping them in the background. Even with AotD, he left them to it.

I agree with what Moffat has done, when Daleks do appear now, it feels like more of an event, its also good that in their last two episodes, it wasnt all about invading modern day Earth.

Series 1 - Resurrection of the Daleks
Series 2 - The Daleks coming through the portal to take over.
Series 4 - The Daleks are resurrected again by what's his face to destroy Reality.

Three out of four of RTD's series relied on pretty much the same damn story. Never mind the fact that RTD relied on merely repeating phrases over and over to create an illusion of a story arc in each season (Bad Wolf, Torchwood, Harold Saxon, The Bees disappearing/Medusa Cascade). Moffat created actual arcs that aren't reliant on the godamn Daleks making an appearance at the end of nearly every series.

I agree with that, the worst part is the terrible ways he kept bringing the Dalek's back, again and again it was the typical "Oh, one of them survived and rebuilt the Dalek empire"

[Mystic Mock]

I don't like Moffat's Doctor Who tbh, he comes up with interesting plots but he can't seem to get a good cast together imo.

[Glenn.]

A lot of the cast has been amazing Mock :nono:

[Mystic Mock]

I only like Matt Smith as The Doctor.

[Scarlett.]

Rory and Clara are/was amazing o: I didn't like Amy Pond because of her character (not because of the actress).

[Glenn.]

Rory and Clara are/was amazing o: I didn't like Amy Pond because of her character (not because of the actress).

Same. I hated her in S5. She did grow on me.

The Girl Who Waited is one of my all time favourite episodes :love:

[DigitalSid]

Series 1 - Resurrection of the Daleks
Series 2 - The Daleks coming through the portal to take over.
Series 4 - The Daleks are resurrected again by what's his face to destroy Reality.

Three out of four of RTD's series relied on pretty much the same damn story. Never mind the fact that RTD relied on merely repeating phrases over and over to create an illusion of a story arc in each season (Bad Wolf, Torchwood, Harold Saxon, The Bees disappearing/Medusa Cascade). Moffat created actual arcs that aren't reliant on the godamn Daleks making an appearance at the end of nearly every series.

That's 3 stories, and during Russell's era, not including cameos, they were in a total of 5, you claimed they were behind "nearly all the plots".

[DigitalSid]

I agree with that, the worst part is the terrible ways he kept bringing the Dalek's back, again and again it was the typical "Oh, one of them survived and rebuilt the Dalek empire"

They are contractually obliged to feature them every series by the Terry Nation estate.

[Tom4784]

That's 3 stories, and during Russell's era, not including cameos, they were in a total of 5, you claimed they were behind "nearly all the plots".

I meant series plots as a whole, that much was pretty obvious. They were the big bads in three out of four seasons, you cannot say that isn't repetitive.

[Scarlett.]

They are contractually obliged to feature them every series by the Terry Nation estate.

Yeah, but RTD overused them, how many times did we see Armies of Daleks flying around? An episode like 'Dalek' has much more impact that 'Journey's End'. 'The Parting of Ways' finale was also brilliant, as it was the first time we'd seen so many Daleks, but they got erased from all time, but then in turned out there was a prison ship full of them, but they all got sucked into a black hole, but the Cult of Skaro teleported to New York, then for once, one actually did survive, but then he went into the time lock, which is supposed to be impossible, and ressurected Davros, who was supposed to have died, but then all the Daleks died again, except for one ship....which FINALLY ressurected the Dalek Empire for good.

I much prefered The Master's episodes. But even those suffered from the "But one survived!" trope when he was ressurected in The End of Time.

Moffat has handled the Daleks so much better, there's actually an entire Dalek Empire in the universe, and they're not attacking modern day earth again, only to be thawrted by the giant reset button.

[Scarlett.]

BBC Cymru Wales has announced that Brian Minchin is to be the new Executive Producer of Doctor Who, alongside showrunner Steven Moffat.

Brian Minchin is an Executive Producer in BBC Wales drama, currently working on The Game, a new Cold War spy thriller from Toby Whithouse for BBC One, and Wizards Vs Aliens, Russell T Davies’ hit show for CBBC. He has also worked as BBC Executive Producer on Dirk Gently and Being Human.

Brian produced the RTS award-winning and BAFTA nominated series The Sarah Jane Adventures, as well as the UK sections of Torchwood: Miracle Day and was Assistant Producer on Torchwood: Children of Earth.

Brian, who grew up in Aberystwyth, joined the department in Cardiff in 2005 as a Script Editor working on BBC One Wales drama Belonging, before moving on to network dramas Doctor Who and Torchwood in the same role.

Brian says: “I'm thrilled and excited to be joining Steven Moffat on a show that has meant so much to me over the years. I've watched in awe as Steven has taken Doctor Who to wild and imaginative places and I can't wait to get started on many more adventures with the Doctor.”

Faith Penhale, Head of Drama Wales, says: “I've no doubt Doctor Who will enjoy a very exciting time with Brian at the helm working alongside Steven. Since joining BBC Wales in 2005, he’s proved he has a fantastic eye for story and a sharp awareness of what makes a drama like Doctor Who unmissable."

Steven Moffat, Lead Writer and Executive Producer, adds: "When I first took over Doctor Who, Brian was there as script editor, and in the most difficult time of a new Doctor and a new era, was completely brilliant. We lost him to producing The Sarah Jane Adventures at the end of our first run. Rising talent keeps rising, is how I comforted myself back then - but now I am beyond happy that Brian has risen all the way back to Doctor Who, in his new role of Executive Producer. I look forward to getting hopelessly lost in space and time with him."

From the BBC

[DigitalSid]

Yeah, but RTD overused them, how many times did we see Armies of Daleks flying around? An episode like 'Dalek' has much more impact that 'Journey's End'. 'The Parting of Ways' finale was also brilliant, as it was the first time we'd seen so many Daleks, but they got erased from all time, but then in turned out there was a prison ship full of them, but they all got sucked into a black hole, but the Cult of Skaro teleported to New York, then for once, one actually did survive, but then he went into the time lock, which is supposed to be impossible, and ressurected Davros, who was supposed to have died, but then all the Daleks died again, except for one ship....which FINALLY ressurected the Dalek Empire for good.

I much prefered The Master's episodes. But even those suffered from the "But one survived!" trope when he was ressurected in The End of Time.

Moffat has handled the Daleks so much better, there's actually an entire Dalek Empire in the universe, and they're not attacking modern day earth again, only to be thawrted by the giant reset button.

If I had had the trouble RTD had getting the rights to use them I'd use them every other episode, RTD was moderate.

[Scarlett.]

It's not how much he used them, its how he used them.


This weeks episode has to be the first one in this half of the series that I'm indifferent about, it'll probably be fun, but its not one I'm excited for, I'm more excited for Nightmare in Silver and The Name of the Doctor.

[DigitalSid]

It's not how much he used them, its how he used them.


This weeks episode has to be the first one in this half of the series that I'm indifferent about, it'll probably be fun, but its not one I'm excited for, I'm more excited for Nightmare in Silver and The Name of the Doctor.

According to Cameron McKewen (Blogtor) fan reaction will be similar to Journey.

Finale details revealed, very spoilery:
http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/the-name-of-the-doctor-spoilery-details-48574.htm

[Scarlett.]

Wait...

Post-library!?

[Glenn.]

I was just about to say that :eek:

Also

remember the title for the first library episode?

[Scarlett.]

Classic Who has been added to Netflix UK

AND THE TV MOVIE

http://i.imgur.com/uYwYWw3.png

[Scarlett.]

50th anniversary spoilers

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJRkkonCAAAAAA5.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJRlPJrCcAAHm8p.jpg:large

[DigitalSid]

50th anniversary spoilers

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJRkkonCAAAAAA5.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJRlPJrCcAAHm8p.jpg:large

Best Doctor Who news since the show returned.

[Scarlett.]

It's Straxday!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/23bb200331b28add136dc1a1b1a39b7b/tumblr_mm395cKOua1rzqimpo6_1280.jpg

[DigitalSid]

Loved it. Fun, camp romp but without being too silly. Reminded me of an RTD ep but with a better thought out solution.

[GypsyGoth]

I thought it was great, I've caught up on all the eps this series.

The submarine one was pretty good, I know they can't make it too scary because of the timeslot, but I felt the ep could have been helped if there was more tension.

The haunted house ep was clever, a mixture of spookiness and scifi.

Seeing so much of the tardis in last week's ep was wonderful, there are endless stories you could have in the place. Those monsters chasing them were freaky.

And I thoroughly enjoyed tonight's ep, I really like the victorian heroes, I hope there's at least another ep set there this series.

[DigitalSid]

I thought it was great, I've caught up on all the eps this series.

The submarine one was pretty good, I know they can't make it too scary because of the timeslot, but I felt the ep could have been helped if there was more tension.

The haunted house ep was clever, a mixture of spookiness and scifi.

Seeing so much of the tardis in last week's ep was wonderful, there are endless stories you could have in the place. Those monsters chasing them were freaky.

And I thoroughly enjoyed tonight's ep, I really like the victorian heroes, I hope there's at least another ep set there this series.



They're in the finale, though it's set at Trenzalore

[Marsh.]

I think a lot of Who is hampered by being in the "tween" timeslot where it has to reign a lot of stuff in.

I know it's primarily for kids but the show would be so much better if it could be a bit ballsier.

However, I enjoyed tonights. Creepy, campy and surreal. This and Hide are the best of this new series for me. All of the others I found pretty mediocre.

[Scarlett.]

I thought tonights episode was great, and it was nice to have a simple end to the story. Strax was amazing as usual

[Scarlett.]

From the next time trailer, it looks like the Cybermen have taken a leaf out of the borg's book, and can assimilate people.

[Scarlett.]

It's hilarious to see social justice tumblr blogs getting upset about the Doctor kissing Jenny.

I mean, Eleven kisses everyone, even Rory!

[DigitalSid]

John Hurt has confirmed his role in the 50th:
http://blogtorwho.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/john-hurt-talks-50th-spoilers.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+BlogtorWho+(Blogtor+Who)&m=1

And a poster on GB, who has apparently seen the much talked about, exciting pre-credits sequence for the finale, claims, in believable detail:

That it features Clara interacting with Docs 1-7 via past footage

Read more here:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=65770687#post65770687

and here:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showpost.php?p=65774585&postcount=1261

[Scarlett.]

That sounds epic o:

[Scarlett.]

RIP Matt Smith's hair

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/5/10/11/enhanced-buzz-1609-1368198711-16.jpg

[Marcus.]

oh what did he do

[Scarlett.]

He's cut it to film something, can't remember what, he'll probably grow it back in time to film the Christmas special.

[Marcus.]

He's cut it to film something, can't remember what, he'll probably grow it back in time to film the Christmas special.

hope he dose

[Glenn.]

More info on the finale


Little teaser from radio times

The Time Lord’s identity is certainly key to this momentous story, which — in a clever way that will have fans rewinding their recordings — takes in his whole story from Gallifrey to the end of days on Trenzalore...There’s a funeral air as the Great Intelligence and his undertaker-like Whisper Men intrude upon a bizarre conference call across the centuries between the Doctor’s closest allies: Vastra, Jenny, Strax, Clara and River Song. For some of our heroes, life will never be the same again, in one of the most audacious and emotional episodes to date.

[Scarlett.]

Tonights episode was great, didn't like the annoying bratty girl though, the other kid was okay, the Porridge was funny. The new Cybermen were good, though their run looked a bit dodgy, lol.

Oh, and did anyone spot this in the "Next time"?
http://25.media.tumblr.com/872390ddd2df6370e7b93437f4242235/tumblr_mmnhyjgqWN1r6jyp7o1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/5ac16dbc57e8a694213eff8cb3203c39/tumblr_mmnhyjgqWN1r6jyp7o2_500.jpg

[Marcus.]

did any one see the red button bit

[Scarlett.]

The prequel? Yup, it's on Youtube too :)

[Glenn.]

TV Trailer :amazed:

CRhG3oEQ9eY

[Marcus.]

looks fab

[Scarlett.]

It seems someone has worked out when/where that scene with Bessie happened in the Doctor's timeline, apparently, during The Five Doctors, where the Third Doctor is kidnapped

http://i.imgur.com/D9mP3B5l.png

and here's the clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spAGKcWHHss&feature=youtu.be&t=1m57s

Looks like DigitalSid was right

[DigitalSid]

Didn't like that one much, Warwick and Matt were good though. Bessie in the TV trail for next week.

[Scarlett.]

Didn't like that one much, Warwick and Matt were good though. Bessie in the TV trail for next week.

Just posted about Bessie above lol. I kinda get what you mean about this weeks episode, maybe I just expected too much from Neil's writing though

[Marsh.]

I really can't take to Moff's Who, I thought I'd prefer it once he moved away from his ill thought out arcs but the show's lost a certain spark.

Then again it's the seventh season and I'm usually bored of a lot of shows by then. I don't know how the people who've watched sine the 60s keep going. :D

[Scarlett.]

To be honest, the lack of two parters has left this series feeling a bit rushed, I really hope the BBC does a FULL series 8 in one run too.

[Tom4784]

The last episode has been leaked, Amazon accidentally dispatched a few copies of the second half of the series to a few people in America.

[Scarlett.]

Yup, but BBC America said if the spoilers are kept well enough under wraps, we'll get a Tennant/Smith clip after the show.

[Marsh.]

I wish somebody would leak it, I really want to watch it now. And I wasn't particularly excited at all before this news.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/e3763eac580e18e4b4a4f45ba0bf0ee3/tumblr_mmot11STS11sok7zso5_1280.jpg

But lol at them pretending they're going to provide a new clip in exchange for keeping spoilers under wraps. As though they weren't going to massively tease the 50th anniversary anyway.

[Glenn.]

I'm surprised it hasn't leaked yet.

[DigitalSid]

Yup, but BBC America said if the spoilers are kept well enough under wraps, we'll get a Tennant/Smith clip after the show.

We will either way, so let's hope someone leaks it :laugh:.

[DigitalSid]

I'm surprised it hasn't leaked yet.

Believe it's only copies pre-ordered from the BBC America shop, plus most of those affected will recieve them today.

[Scarlett.]

Just posted on the DW facebook

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/408503_649256545088376_1632020228_n.png

*dies*

[Glenn.]

I know

*fangirl squeal

[Scarlett.]

Gallifrey looks amazing there, we've never really seen it in it's full glory, even this doesn't do the planet justice
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100216140032/tardis/images/b/b7/The_Citadel.jpg

[Scarlett.]

Just saw this fan opening on DS, it deserves spreading around
HaCDNfx8JWA

[oathbreaker]

Cant believe the cockup of the early DVD by BBC America.

I love Matt smith he had such massive shoes to fill after DT a lot of actors would have failed.Gemma is also fitting in very nice main gripe has been some of the casting choices.
We go from top quality (Diana rigg) then lows like the three brothers and those two terrible child actors.

no matter what the age bad actors will ruin the story that's trying to be told.
Agree also it needs 2 parters back and hope series 8 will be one long run no split

[Glenn.]

Just saw this fan opening on DS, it deserves spreading around
HaCDNfx8JWA

I've been following this for a while.

Amazing :worship:

[Scarlett.]

I'm starting to think that
A. The cockup doesn't exist, the spoilers that are generally going around differ and a very similar to theories I've heard
B. One person got the DVD early, and they've kept quiet about spoilers.

I agree about some of the actors, in some episodes, a bad apple can spoil the bunch, however, despite the annoying kids in NiS, Matt massively over shadowed them.

After thinking about it, I think we should only get two parters if the episode is important to the story, or has the return of Cybermen/Daleks/Sontarans/Ice Warriors, we don't need anymore crappy "flesh" like two parters, thats also a benefit of not having a two parter, in this series, if there is a bad episode, we can just shrug and move on, but if you have a bad two parter, then you're going to be less inclined to watch Pt.2.

[Glenn.]

I think the magnitude of the leak isn't what it seems too. There's no way it wouldn't be online right now.

[Scarlett.]

I think the magnitude of the leak isn't what it seems too. There's no way it wouldn't be online right now.

Yup, plus we've not seen any really spoilery pictures, there is this picture below, but I think it's just from a preview picture we've not seen yet

Note: it's a bit spoilery, hence the spoiler tags, but still gonna spoiler tag it.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/d3319f5f893f00f9e3968059b408807f/tumblr_mmscrvZF3o1qgo650o1_500.jpg

[Glenn.]

Yeah I see that on DS.

It only confirms what's been mentioned before.

[Scarlett.]

Yeah I see that on DS.

It only confirms what's been mentioned before.

Yup, just found out the pic is originally from Doctor Who TV. I hope the leak is false.

[Scarlett.]

I noticed something new about John Hurt's costume
His waistcoat is some what similar to the Sixth Doctor, is it possible he is playing an all in one version of the past Doctors?

http://media.tumblr.com/1ac265a6c139b3f4bce18c541c92c9b4/tumblr_inline_mmatxh6kxl1r9ixyz.jpg
http://www.kasterborous.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/dw-50th-location-johnhurt.jpg

[Glenn.]

I think he said he's playing a trinity of the doctor. Whatever the hell that is :/

[Scarlett.]

I think he said he's playing a trinity of the doctor. Whatever the hell that is :/

I think he meant he will be part of a trinity (trio) of Doctors; Matt, David and Himself

[Glenn.]

I've got a really bad feeling he's nine if I'm honest

[Marsh.]

There's a theory I like that he is a "missing" Doctor and is the real nine that came after McGann because we didn't see the regeneration, which makes Eccleston 10, Tennant 11 and Smith 12.

[Glenn.]

I'm not sure how I feel about that

[Marsh.]

I wouldn't put it past Moffat, so he could be the writer to approach that 13th regeneration and explain how the Doctor lives beyond it.

[Glenn.]

Cannot wait for tomorrow. Stupidly excited

[Scarlett.]

Today's the day we go to Trenzalore!

[Suze]

I wouldn't put it past Moffat, so he could be the writer to approach that 13th regeneration and explain how the Doctor lives beyond it.

Does the Doctor only have 13 regenerations? Because if the Doctor does only has a max of 13 regenerations? if he lived beyond them, I suppose River giving him her regenerations in one of the episodes could explain that one away?

[Scarlett.]

Does the Doctor only have 13 regenerations? Because if the Doctor does only has a max of 13 regenerations? if he lived beyond them, I suppose River giving him her regenerations in one of the episodes could explain that one away?

I reckon they will make an actual episode where he gets more regenerations, probably will be a season finale episode

[DigitalSid]

Today's the day we go to Trenzalore!

Yep, 3 years of foreshadowing.

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[Tom4784]

If we don't find out his name after all this I won't be happy. I can see them stating his name but the audience won't hear it.

[DigitalSid]

If we don't find out his name after all this I won't be happy. I can see them stating his name but the audience won't hear it.

Silence Will Fall ;)

[Marcus.]

can wait for tonight

[Marsh.]

"Run you clever boy... and remember me"

Is that the first time we've heard her add "me" on the end?

[DigitalSid]

"Run you clever boy... and remember me"

Is that the first time we've heard her add "me" on the end?

Yeah.

[Marsh.]

So, most of the actual episode was already revealed in preview clips, the trailer and the radio advert.

Decent episode but seemed a bit run of the mill.

So the John Hurt speculation was right...

Seems he is the true 9th Doctor who ended the Time War, or he's the true first Doctor before Hartnell? If he's 9 then Smith is 12 and Moffat has decided to address the 13 regenerations stuff.

Or we're essentially still at the same point we were before the episode and aired and have to wait for the 50th to get any actual clarification.

But that's my big problem with Moffat, it's always set up, then more set up, just a bit more set up, never actually paying a lot of stuff off. :D

[Scarlett.]

That ending was confusing lol, I'm glad they finally gave River Song an ending too. This was probably the best Moffat finale we've had, it didn't feel "all over the place" for once.

[Tom4784]

It was a great episode apart from the last five minutes, it was a ****ty place to leave it to say that it'll be months before the next episode and it left the episode feeling unfinished.

As for John Hurt I've got two theories that run along a similar thought. I think he's a future Doctor that lost sight of who he is and in the 50th Anniversary Special he'll either help the Doctors in avoiding a threat of his own creation which will fix whatever wrongs he has committed and will set him up as the next Doctor when Matt Smith leaves.

Or, what I believe to be more likely, he'll be the main villain and he'll eventually be written out of time by the end of the episode.

[Glenn.]

I think it's safe to say he's a doctor that's will likely slide in between Paul McGann and Christopher. My theory is that John Hurt is the doctor what took part in the time war and effectively ended it.

He said himself, "what I did, I did without choice, for the sake of peace and sanity"

[Scarlett.]

One thing

That was the 11th Doctor's TARDIS at Trenzalore, does all that still exist at the end of the episode?

[Marsh.]

The first thing I thought when they entered the Tardis was "Uh, Moffat's basically preventing the inside from ever being redesigned" but then after that ending I'm not sure if that will now change.

[BBfanUSA]

Holy Bleep that finale. (It just aired in the States)

John Hurt has to be the time war doctor that ended the time war. Then a bit later he regenerated into Christopher

[Scarlett.]

Possibly, perhaps McGann's Doctor got killed during the time war, then John Hurt's Doctor came about, a Doctor, born into the time war, we know 10.5 commited genocide against the Daleks because he was born into the small scale war, imagine what a Doctor born into the hell that was the time war would be like.

[BBfanUSA]

10.5? Don't you mean 8.5?

[Firewire]

Yeah, and he didn't use the name "The Doctor" because that is a promise to save people and he didn't, he killed. It's why he isn't spoken about, the Doctor is too ashamed of his past self. Matt Smith technically is #12.

[Scarlett.]

10.5? Don't you mean 8.5?

I was talking about 10.5 who was born from the Doctor's hand in Journey's End :p He was born into a war, but nothing like the one John Hurt's Doctor might have been born into.

[Suze]

I was talking about 10.5 who was born from the Doctor's hand in Journey's End :p He was born into a war, but nothing like the one John Hurt's Doctor might have been born into.

10.5 is the Doctor left with Rose, is that right?

[Scarlett.]

10.5 is the Doctor left with Rose, is that right?

Yeah, thats the one.

[Smithy]

I just watched and that was confusing as ****ing hell y'all gon have to explain it to me


And sidenote, i'd love it if they had a sidearc that ran for like 3/4 series, before becoming a main one, like clara could have appeared through 9 and 10 and this series you finially find out why but oh well

[Firewire]

I just watched and that was confusing as ****ing hell y'all gon have to explain it to me


And sidenote, i'd love it if they had a sidearc that ran for like 3/4 series, before becoming a main one, like clara could have appeared through 9 and 10 and this series you finially find out why but oh well

John Hurt is like the "unspoken of" Doctor that existed between Paul McGann (8) and Christopher Eccleston (9) and was the Doctor that took part in the time war but he didn't go as the name "the Doctor" because he was a killer (it was a war) and the Doctor is ashamed of his former self and is why he's been wiped from memory. Something along those lines, we'll find out in November the exact details.

[Smithy]

ohhhhhhh so the name he went as is the name they wanna know or not? :suspect:

[Firewire]

ohhhhhhh so the name he went as is the name they wanna know or not? :suspect:

I assume so

[Marsh.]

ohhhhhhh so the name he went as is the name they wanna know or not? :suspect:

I assume so

No the name they wanted to know was The Doctor's true name (i.e.. the name he was born with). It was that name which opened his tomb, and gave the Great Intelligence access to the Doctor's timestream.

The Doctor was a title he gave himself because it's a name that means to do good and save people etc.

John Hurt's doctor wasn't one of the faces Clara saw because he somehow locked him away because he broke the promise that the name "Doctor" was supposed to signify. So either, he was the Doctor who fought in the Time War and committed mass genocide or as another poster suggested McGann fought in the war, resulting in a regeneration into Hurt who then (out of being born into war) did something terrible that the Doctor wants to block out.

So, effectively his "greatest secret revealed" wasn't his name like everyone thought but this missing Doctor in the form of John Hurt.

That's my understanding anyway. :D

[Smithy]

ohhhhhh thanks for clearing it up :D

[Firewire]

No the name they wanted to know was The Doctor's true name (i.e.. the name he was born with). It was that name which opened his tomb, and gave the Great Intelligence access to the Doctor's timestream.

The Doctor was a title he gave himself because it's a name that means to do good and save people etc.

John Hurt's doctor wasn't one of the faces Clara saw because he somehow locked him away because he broke the promise that the name "Doctor" was supposed to signify. So either, he was the Doctor who fought in the Time War and committed mass genocide or as another poster suggested McGann fought in the war, resulting in a regeneration into Hurt who then (out of being born into war) did something terrible that the Doctor wants to block out.

So, effectively his "greatest secret revealed" wasn't his name like everyone thought but this missing Doctor in the form of John Hurt.

That's my understanding anyway. :D

that's what i meant, i got confused by smithy's question :p

[BBfanUSA]

and then soon after he forced himself to regenerate into Eccelston

[Marsh.]

ohhhhhh thanks for clearing it up :D

No problem. :D

that's what i meant, i got confused by smithy's question :p

:laugh: :p

[Glenn.]

No the name they wanted to know was The Doctor's true name (i.e.. the name he was born with). It was that name which opened his tomb, and gave the Great Intelligence access to the Doctor's timestream.

The Doctor was a title he gave himself because it's a name that means to do good and save people etc.

John Hurt's doctor wasn't one of the faces Clara saw because he somehow locked him away because he broke the promise that the name "Doctor" was supposed to signify. So either, he was the Doctor who fought in the Time War and committed mass genocide or as another poster suggested McGann fought in the war, resulting in a regeneration into Hurt who then (out of being born into war) did something terrible that the Doctor wants to block out.

So, effectively his "greatest secret revealed" wasn't his name like everyone thought but this missing Doctor in the form of John Hurt.

That's my understanding anyway. :D

This is my thinking too.

Can't wait til November. John Hurt is amazing, the two sentences he said just oozed amazingness

[GypsyGoth]

No the name they wanted to know was The Doctor's true name (i.e.. the name he was born with). It was that name which opened his tomb, and gave the Great Intelligence access to the Doctor's timestream.

The Doctor was a title he gave himself because it's a name that means to do good and save people etc.

John Hurt's doctor wasn't one of the faces Clara saw because he somehow locked him away because he broke the promise that the name "Doctor" was supposed to signify. So either, he was the Doctor who fought in the Time War and committed mass genocide or as another poster suggested McGann fought in the war, resulting in a regeneration into Hurt who then (out of being born into war) did something terrible that the Doctor wants to block out.

So, effectively his "greatest secret revealed" wasn't his name like everyone thought but this missing Doctor in the form of John Hurt.

That's my understanding anyway. :D

Now I understand it more :laugh:

[Scarlett.]

I watched it again the other night, one of my favourite Doctor Who finales.

[Scarlett.]

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[Jarrod]

I got my copy of the DVD today for Part 2.

[Suze]

Clara ruins DR Who more than anything else for me. I can't take to her at all.

[DigitalSid]

Just realised I haven't commented in here on TNOD (or I think the lat few episodes), loved The Crimson Horror, thought Nightmare In Silver was **** (but like the changes they'd done to the Cybermen, particularly their new adaptability), and really loved The Name Of The Doctor.

[BBfanUSA]

Someone made this amazing fake trailer for the 50th very convincing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD997i_89RM&feature=player_embedded

[Scarlett.]

50th Anniversary pictures!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/0a1d954517dac5fdd829e96199cf9f0e/tumblr_mqb8t2UVRO1ry89zho1_500.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/19fc9843f57343ef22dfaa9a42b525b7/tumblr_mqb8t2UVRO1ry89zho3_500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/7aec03d25ddadce5024968db2818202d/tumblr_mqb8t2UVRO1ry89zho2_500.jpg

MATT SMITH, DAVID TENNANT AND JOHN HURT TO FACE OFF AGAINST DALEKS IN 50th ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL

The Doctors, Matt Smith, David Tennant and John Hurt will battle the deadly Daleks, the BBC announces today, in the show’s 50th anniversary special.

Returning to BBC One on 23 November the highly anticipated adventure will star: Matt Smith; Jenna Coleman; David Tennant; Billie Piper; John Hurt and Joanna Page. In a surprise twist in the recent series finale it was revealed John Hurt would be playing a Doctor, alongside Smith and Tennant.

The Daleks are the second monster to be announced for the 50th and will join the shape shifting Zygons, which have only appeared in the show once before in 1975. The Daleks were one of the first monsters to terrify audiences in 1963, 50 years ago, cementing their place in British popular culture.

Steven Moffat, lead writer and executive producer, said:

“The Doctor once said that you can judge a man by the quality of his enemies, so it’s fitting that for this very special episode, he should be facing the greatest enemies of all.”

The 50th anniversary episode was shot earlier this year at BBC Cymru Wales’ Roath Lock Studios in Cardiff and across South Wales. Filming also took place in iconic London locations the Tower of London and Trafalgar Square for a huge stunt, which saw Matt Smith dangling from a TARDIS alongside Nelson’s Column.

[Glenn.]

We should of had the trailer for the 50th after Comic Con :idc:

[Scarlett.]

So it sounds that Peter guy is likely gonna be the Doctor, would be interesting having an older actor in the role.

[BBfanUSA]

The reveal is today,

BBC America is showing the end of time in it's entirety. Part 1 is finishing up right now.

[Tom4784]

Peter Capaldi would be amazing but I honestly can't see them casting anyone older then 40 any more.

[BBfanUSA]

Yeah, I'm expecting another young charming guy or a Robert Downey Jr or Johnny Depp type actor.

[Glenn.]

BBC News have revealed the title and length of the 50th anniversary special.

Note: the original article has been now been deleted (another blunder?) but the preserved text is below:

The BBC has announced a raft of programmes to mark the 50th anniversary of the first episode of Doctor Who.

A 75-minute special called The Day Of The Doctor will star the soon-to-leave Matt Smith and David Tennant.

Smith said: “Hope you all enjoy. There’s lots more coming your way.”

Other highlights include a BBC Two lecture by Professor Brian Cox on the science behind the hit show and the drama An Adventure In Space and Time, written by Mark Gatiss.

The one-off programme stars David Bradley, of the Harry Potter films, as William Hartnell – who was the first Doctor in 1963.

BBC Four will introduce new audiences to Hartnell, with a re-run of the first ever story. The four episodes are being shown in a restored format, not previously broadcast in the UK.

BBC Two’s flagship arts programme The Culture Show is to present Me, You and Doctor Who, with lifelong fan Matthew Sweet exploring the cultural significance of the BBC’s longest running TV drama.

A 90-minute documentary on BBC Radio 2 will ask “Who Is The Doctor?” – using newly-recorded interviews and exclusive archive material to find an answer – while BBC Three will be home to several commissions.

The anniversary episode sees the return of the Daleks For those less familiar with the show, Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide will provide a handy primer.

Danny Cohen, Director BBC Television said: “It’s an astonishing achievement for a drama to reach its 50th anniversary.

“I’d like to thank every person – on both sides of the camera – who has been involved with its creative journey over so many years.”

Smith has already started filming his final scenes as the Doctor, which are due to air in this year’s Christmas episode. His replacement, Scots actor Peter Capaldi, was announced in August.

Steven Moffat, lead writer and executive producer on Doctor Who said: “50 years has turned Doctor Who from a television show into a cultural landmark. Personally I can’t wait to see what it becomes after a hundred.”

The Day of the Doctor!
:amazed:

[Scarlett.]

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...bad wolf ey?

[Glenn.]

Is that the actual episode poster? :amazed::amazed:

[Scarlett.]

Yep
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=716134781733885&set=a.182096918471010.52777.127031120644257&type=1

:D

[Glenn.]

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[Glenn.]

In the latest issue of DWM, Steven Moffat may have dropped some interesting hints on what we can expect from Matt Smith’s final episode this Christmas.

Asked about how the TARDIS exploded back in Series 5, he says:

“Oh, never mind the TARDIS blowing up, what about the endless, bitter war Kovarian was on about? And what’s Trenzalore? And the oldest question in the universe? And what exactly do they mean, silence will fall? Anyway, I’m off to a readthrough…”

The readthrough in question being the Christmas episode currently filming.

:suspect:

[Marsh.]

So Trenzalore and silence will fall has not already been covered? :suspect: Indeed.

[Glenn.]

I thought, silence will fall was the doctors death in series 6. He said himself that if you wanted a secret kept so badly you'd kill the secret to stop it being revealed. Which is what the universe and the Silence think actually happened.

Unless they find out he's still alive :suspect:

[Scarlett.]

Not sure why this was a reveal, but hey ho
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[Glenn.]

Was a bit of an anti climax. Looks like we'll be getting a trailer sooner rather than later though. It's in production now :amazed:

[Marsh.]

I thought, silence will fall was the doctors death in series 6. He said himself that if you wanted a secret kept so badly you'd kill the secret to stop it being revealed. Which is what the universe and the Silence think actually happened.

Unless they find out he's still alive :suspect:

No silence will fall was about when the question is asked on Trenzalore.

When the GI asked him his name. Finale of series 7.

[Glenn.]

Trailer celebrating 50yrs of Doctor Who.

No footage from the 50th Anniversary episode but still worth a watch :amazed:
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[Samm]

:amazed:

[Glenn.]

There's loads of stuff in that trailer :love:

[Marcus.]

it is amzing in there

[Marsh.]

Sarah Jane. :love:

Shame Sladen can't be in the episode.

[Glenn.]

Liz Sladen :love:

She would of been in it for sure :lovedup:

I love the remix of the theme.

[Glenn.]

Further details on the 3D cinema screenings of The Day of the Doctor have been announced.

Doctor Who 50th anniversary episode in 3D special cinema event in over 400 cinemas across 8 countries

Hundreds of thousands of fans across the UK, Ireland, US, Canada, Germany and Russia will gather to watch on the big screen at the same time as millions of TV viewers worldwide

The celebrations will cross the equator with screenings to be held in 106 cinemas in Australia and New Zealand

BBC Worldwide today announces that the special 50th Anniversary episode of Doctor Who will also be screened in 3D in cinemas across the UK, Ireland, the US, Canada, Germany and Russia at the same time as the UK TV broadcast on BBC One on 23rd November 2013, with more countries to be confirmed within the next few weeks.

In addition to the global TV broadcast, hundreds of cinemas in the UK and around the world are also confirming their plans to screen the hotly anticipated special episode simultaneously in full 3D, giving fans another unique opportunity to be part of a truly global celebration for the iconic British drama series. 216 VUE, Cineworld, Odeon, BFI and Picturehouse cinemas in the UK and Ireland have already confirmed their participation, with tickets for the anniversary screening set to go on sale this Friday October 25th at 9am. Locations include London, Birmingham, Belfast, Dublin, Liverpool, Cardiff and Edinburgh.

Internationally, German, Russian, American* and Canadian* fans will gather in cinemas to enjoy the simulcast release, approximately 30 cinemas in Germany will screen the special and up to 50 theatres will debut it in Russia. The celebrations will cross time zones travelling over the equator to New Zealand and Australia where fans will have a choice of 106 cinemas across both countries to view the episode in 3D on the big screen on the 24th November following the simulcast TV broadcast earlier in the morning.

I don't think I'll be able to watch it in cinemas with annoying people

[Samm]

I can't wait for this :amazed: Billie piper and David's return :amazed: Series 2 :love:

[Samm]

25 days :dance:

[Samm]

Wonder if the 12th will feature in the 50th

[Glenn.]

I doubt it. Wouldn't want him in it tbh.

Official Synopsis :amazed:

The full synopsis reads: "The Doctors embark on their greatest adventure in this 50th anniversary special.

"In 2013, something terrible is awakening in London's National Gallery; in 1562, a murderous plot is afoot in Elizabethan England; and somewhere in space an ancient battle reaches its devastating conclusion. All of reality is at stake as the Doctor's own dangerous past comes back to haunt him."

:amazed:


Rumour has it that the episode trailer will air this Saturday.

[armand.kay]

I'm more exited to see peter as the doctor than I am for the 50th, I'm happy the doctor is a bit older http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRLSmilies/Halloween%202013/duca_zpse4e0775a.gif.

But the trailer :love:
is amazing I can't wait to see footage :amazed: