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The estate of television presenter Jimmy Savile has been frozen in response to the sex abuse claims made against him, NatWest bank says.
The bank, which is acting as the late DJ's executor, said: "Given the claims raised, distribution of the estate has been put on hold."
Savile's estate is thought to be worth about £4 million.
Lawyers representing those who claim they were attacked by Savile are planning to sue the estate for damages.
:idc:
Tom4784
01-11-2012, 02:22 AM
What's the point of suing his relatives?
Nedusa
01-11-2012, 06:28 AM
Now that the Banks acting as executor for his estate have frozen his assets , we will start to see the backlash. Now that there is a good chance all the relatives and charities who are currently awaiting their share of his £4M will start to use the law to protect his name.
Innocent until proven guilty will be the unspoken mantra regardless of the number of allegations. You can't prove any of it in law and be prepared for a long legal battle which I fear the victims of Savile's abuse will ultimately lose.
When money is involved sentiment goes out the window...!!!
Sticks
01-11-2012, 06:57 AM
And when money is involved we get all sort of spurious claims from those trying their luck :mad:
..money is a huge driving force of mankind I'm afraid...£4million is quite an enticing steering wheel for many...I expect before it all ends, if everyone who puts in a claim gets a portion...they'll barely have enough to buy themselves a happy meal each....
What's the point of suing his relatives?
It's the estate, not the relatives, being sued.
Now that the Banks acting as executor for his estate have frozen his assets , we will start to see the backlash. Now that there is a good chance all the relatives and charities who are currently awaiting their share of his £4M will start to use the law to protect his name.
There seems to be only 1 major beneficiary :
http://www.channel4.com/news/jimmy-saviles-estate-frozen-following-abuse-allegations
Savile's will was written in 2006. The Financial Times reported that it bequeathed his savings and other assets to 26 separate beneficiaries, and that £20,000 in cash was to be shared between 20 of his friends, family and neighbours.
The document reportedly said that a further £600,000 was to be put into a trust fund, with the interest shared between eight people, and that the remaining £3.7m or so would be held by NatWest on behalf of The Jimmy Savile Charitable Trust.
Savile's intended individual beneficiaries include the trustees of both his charities and existing and former employees of Leeds General Infirmary and Broadmoor Hospital.
It is not the first time that the Savile estate has been frozen. In July, it was put on hold after a woman claimed to be his illegitimate daughter.
:idc:
Kizzy
01-11-2012, 11:09 AM
Ah, here come the accusations that victims are trying to make a fast buck...
No amount of victim testimony or witness statements will ever convince some that these people are anything else but moneygrabbers will it?
I just hope that they are never personally affected by something like this, my guess is there would be a distinct change of heart.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/01/jimmy-savile-itv-investigation
ITV will broadcast further revelations about Jimmy Savile in a follow-up to its explosive Exposure documentary broadcast last month.
The second Savile investigation will be fronted by journalist and former detective Mark Williams-Thomas, who was also responsible for the first programme.
Expected to air in late November, the second ITV investigation may coincide with the conclusion of the BBC inquiry into the affair being led by former head of Sky News Nick Pollard. He is due to start formal interviews next week.
An ITV spokesman said it was too early to confirm when the programme would be broadcast, or what material it would contain.
The first Exposure programme was watched by nearly 2 million viewers.
I suspect that the audience will be somewhat larger for the next Exposure .... :idc:
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-11-01/savile-estate-freeze-is-good-news-for-his-alleged-victims/
Alan Collins from law firm Pannone said:
“Pannone are also actively pursuing inquiries into Savile's overseas assets, which we believe are being administered in Guernsey."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20165466
A wall commemorating high-profile citizens in Leeds Civic Hall has had the inscription of Savile's name removed.
Having said three weeks ago they would not change the name of Savile's Hall conference centre in Leeds, owner Royal Armouries International announced a change of mind this week at a cost of £50,000.
"Sir Jimmy's name and reputation are irrevocably tainted and we have to remove every trace," the managing director said.
The Royal Marines training centre at Lympstone will have its Savile Room renamed. A photo and nameplate have already gone. A newspaper talked of them having "destroyed all remnants of the TV star".
The BBC has removed from its Desert Island Discs database a 1985 episode in which Savile says he got into running dance halls in order to get girls.
Savile gets expunged ..... :pipe:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20174081
Freddie Starr has been arrested in the police investigation into Savile.
He has denied claims he groped a 14-year-old girl in a room with Savile.
Mr Starr, from Warwickshire, was arrested by Operation Yewtree officers on suspicion of sexual offences and has been taken into police custody locally.
Police said he fell under the strand of the investigation termed "Savile and others".
:pipe:
bbfan1991
01-11-2012, 06:54 PM
OMG this saga gets worse:o.
arista
01-11-2012, 07:08 PM
He was due to be arrested
not much news
unless they charge him?
michael21
01-11-2012, 07:10 PM
He was due to be arrested
not much news
unless they charge him?
Freddie Starr has been arrested this is news
feel the forces
http://swns.com/news/freddie-starr-meltdown-comedian-throws-wild-punch-reporters-home-jimmy-savile-sex-scandal-takes-toll-26902/
This is the shocking moment funnyman Freddie Starr swings a punch at members of the press before ramming a reporter’s car with his £50,000 Audi in a bizarre meltdown outside his home.
The fuming comic, 69, lost his temper and attacked members of the media outside his mansion in Studley, Warks., before threatening to have them all “wiped out”.
A dishevelled looking Starr appeared to be slurring his words as he launched his torrent of abuse at journalists and photographers at around 1pm yesterday afternoon.
:eek:
Mystic Mock
01-11-2012, 08:06 PM
I had a feeling that Freddie Starr would be involved.
Nedusa
02-11-2012, 01:02 AM
Oh well that's another mans career and reputation flushed down the toilet, innocent or guilty it matters not be has been forever linked now with Jimmy Savile and will find that his showbiz career is effectively over.
The only audience he will get now will be with the CPS...!!!
Oh well that's another mans career and reputation flushed down the toilet, innocent or guilty it matters not be has been forever linked now with Jimmy Savile and will find that his showbiz career is effectively over.
The only audience he will get now will be with the CPS...!!!
Cambridge Philosophical Society ..... :conf:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2226463/Freddie-Starr-arrested-claim-molested-girl-Jimmy-Saviles-BBC-dressing-room.html#ixzz2B3gbDWHI
Police searched Starr's garage at his Warwickshire home yesterday after his arrest by detectives investigating allegations of sexual offences connected to Jimmy Savile
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/apps/freddie-starr-arrested-in-jimmy-savile-sex-investigation-16233116.html#ixzz2B3dcqCoY
Comedian Freddie Starr was released on bail between 1am and 1.30am this morning. The date when he must represent himself to officers is yet to be released by Scotland Yard.
:idc:
Kazanne
02-11-2012, 10:02 AM
Oh well that's another mans career and reputation flushed down the toilet, innocent or guilty it matters not be has been forever linked now with Jimmy Savile and will find that his showbiz career is effectively over.
The only audience he will get now will be with the CPS...!!!
He WANTED to be interviewed by police,he has said so himself.so in my book IF he has done nothing wrong he has nothing to worry about.
Who thinks Rolf Harris will be next?
Nedusa
02-11-2012, 10:24 AM
He WANTED to be interviewed by police,he has said so himself.so in my book IF he has done nothing wrong he has nothing to worry about.
I agree but the general public are easily persuaded by the press and even if only a few articles sensationalising the "allegations" that he may have been involved are published, it will probably be enough to seal his fate. His celebrity days are probably now over. It's guilt by association and it's terribly unjust but it happens all the time.
The more he fights to clear his name the more people will connect his name with Jimmy Savile.
Who thinks Rolf Harris will be next?
...Never..!!...:hmph:
...Never..!!...:hmph:
Bruce Forsyth?
..hmmm..no I don't think so Lee..there are a few I might be a bit worried about though...I won't name them...:hugesmile:
Who thinks Rolf Harris will be next?
One of my ex hubby's sisters knew Rolf Harris, she said he's a lovely bloke, wouldn't hear anything said against him.
Shaun
02-11-2012, 11:40 AM
was a matter of time I suppose before this thread descended into an "I think that celebrity looks creepy, he must be a paedophile" circus
Kizzy
02-11-2012, 12:04 PM
No it wasn't shaun...
STARRY EYES
02-11-2012, 12:31 PM
I agree but the general public are easily persuaded by the press and even if only a few articles sensationalising the "allegations" that he may have been involved are published, it will probably be enough to seal his fate. His celebrity days are probably now over. It's guilt by association and it's terribly unjust but it happens all the time.
The more he fights to clear his name the more people will connect his name with Jimmy Savile.
He always did come across as rather 'slimy', an image he seemed to revel in. So I guess he can't complain too loudly if that image has come back to take a massive bite out of his rather arrogant rear end.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2226816/Jimmy-Savile-Shabby-Leeds-penthouse-paedophile-spent-final-days-sale.html#ixzz2B4J0GAKn
Shagpile carpets, damp, and dark wood panelling - these pictures show that Jimmy Savile refused to spend a penny on the upkeep of his Leeds penthouse flat where he lived for more than 30 years.
Photographs show the 1970s style of the three-bedroom apartment, with soap on a rope in the style of the once-coveted Jim'll Fix It badges draped over the taps of its avocado bathroom suite.
Savile was found dead at the property on October 29 last year, two days short of his 85th birthday. It is packed with photographs and mementos including gold discs and posters from when he used to wrestle at halls around the country.
The flat was put on the market for £325,000, with the proceeds intended for the Jimmy Savile Charitable Trust.
But estate agents say potential buyers can expect to spend £400,000 on redeveloping the apartment to rid it of the dated decor.
These pictures show that Savile was too tight to spend money updating the property, which he bought - along with its contents - in the late 1970s.
The gaudy pink and black kitchen was without an oven or hob, as Savile preferred to dine in restaurants rather than cook for himself.
Just ..... weird ..... :suspect:
Kizzy
02-11-2012, 01:17 PM
If you think thats weird how about Lord Tebbit ex tory party chairman reading a eulogy at saviles funeral?
Whats that MP Tom Watson? something about a dodgy MP in 1992?
Did anyone know BBC chairman Chris Patten was an ex tory party chairman too?
These 'old boys' certainly get around don't they?...
arista
02-11-2012, 02:07 PM
Senior political figure' may be outed as a paedophile in Newsnight investigation tonight
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2226833/BREAKING-NEWS-Senior-political-figure-outed-paedophile-Newsnight-investigation-tonight.html#ixzz2B4eOG9Du
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/02/article-2226833-07E81278000005DC-451_634x430.jpg
Scoop: Newsnight, presented by Jeremy Paxman, could reveal the man's identity this evening, but the BBC has so far refused to comment
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/02/article-0-15CFF0E7000005DC-247_634x236.jpg
Bring It On Pax.
Worth a watch ..... :idc:
There seems to be only 1 major beneficiary :
http://www.channel4.com/news/jimmy-saviles-estate-frozen-following-abuse-allegations
:idc:
His gold rings were left to a nephew, while a niece was due to receive a photo of him with the Beatles.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/02/jimmy-savile-bbc-damages-claims
The BBC, four other public institutions and Jimmy Savile's estate are facing at least 50 potential damages claims from alleged victims of sex abuse by the late Jim'll Fix It presenter.
Liz Dux, a partner at law firm Russell Jones & Walker in London and an expert in personal injury and child abuse cases, revealed that she is in contact with 30 alleged victims and the number has almost doubled in the last week.
She added that damages payments in such cases could range from a few thousand pounds for those who suffered a minor assault and got on with their lives to hundreds of thousands if their lives were judged to have been wrecked, for example if they had been unable to have a career or form relationships.
Up to 20 other people have made contact with Alan Collins, the solicitor who represented victims the Jersey child abuse scandal.
Collins, of law firm Pannone, said the BBC and the Savile estate should consider opening a compensation fund to deal with the flood of claims.
"You've got the makings of a group action already but how official that becomes depends on the attitude of the BBC and the estate," he told the Guardian.
"So far all the abuse happened in the UK in a wide variety of circumstances. Savile was an opportunist, he was a risk-taker, it [the abuse] seems to have happened very quickly. He seems to have an eye for taking advantage of an opportunity."
:idc:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9651509/Jimmy-Savile-Freddie-Starr-answers-further-police-questions-over-abuse-claim.html
Mr Starr was released on police bail between 1am and 1.30am this morning, but later returned for further questioning.
His fiancee, Sophie Lea, 34, was seen driving the couple's silver Audi away from their home in Warwickshire at 12.45pm today with a "large bulge" on the back seat covered in a blanket.
A Scotland Yard spokesman said today: “The man arrested yesterday in connection with Operation Yewtree has returned on bail and is currently being interviewed.
:suspect:
arista
02-11-2012, 05:24 PM
Worth a watch ..... :idc:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/02/article-2226833-15D04539000005DC-153_308x185.jpg
Yes I hope Paxman names the MP.
Me. I Am Salman
02-11-2012, 05:25 PM
apparently they're not going to name him anymore? :sad:
arista
02-11-2012, 05:37 PM
Thats a shame
maybe he will tell us why?
arista
02-11-2012, 07:09 PM
Ch4 News Reporter Crick has
spoken to the MP.
That MP says its false , not true.
He will take it to court.
So maybe thats why Paxman can not name him.
According to C4 News, the "senior political figure" was a member of the Thatcher Conservative government and was mentioned in the Welsh childrens homes scandal of the 1990's but never prosecuted, so never named ..... :pipe:
Freddie Starr released on police bail after further questioning http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20184715
Freddie Starr has been released on bail for a second time after further questioning by police investigating the Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal.
Mr Starr, 69, returned to speak to officers after being bailed in the early hours of Friday. The Metropolitan Police said he had been re-bailed to a date in December.
BIB - same as GG ?
:idc:
Kizzy
02-11-2012, 08:20 PM
I smell a superinjunction....
Me. I Am Salman
02-11-2012, 10:43 PM
Watching Newsnight, wish they'd reveal the bloody identity
http://www.channel4.com/news/how-jimmy-savile-revealed-all-in-the-psychiatrists-chair
In 1991 Jimmy Savile gave a chilling interview that left BBC psychiatrist Anthony Clare with concerns about the then beloved broadcaster.
Throughout Savile refuses to allow Dr Clare through his facade; denying having any emotions, using patter and concocted stories to distract from awkward questions.
Clare notes that if Savile does have feelings he is "unable or unwilling" to express them concluding: "There is something chilling about this 20th-century "saint" which still intrigues me to this day."
When asked by Dr Clare about his freedom from emotional attachments to people Savile boasted "I'm not constrained pretty well by anything".
"The tough thing in life is ultimate freedom, that's when the battle starts. Ultimate freedom is what it's all about, because you've got to be very strong to stand for ultimate freedom.
"Ultimate freedom is the big challenge, now I've got it, and I can tell you there's not many of us that have got ultimate freedom. I've got some considerable clout as well, all over. That is where the battle, the personal battle starts now."
"I've managed to handle complete and ultimate utter freedom. It's marvellous but it's dangerous.
"It would be easy to be corrupted by many things, when you've got ultimate freedom, especially when you've got clout. I could be corrupted."
He goes on to boast he has "all the money that was ever printed" and as such can do what he wants when he wants, stating "it is all too much".
Savile explained how he never sleeps in the same place two nights in a row and carries a shoulder bag that has not been completely unpacked for "nearly 30 years".
His obsession with making money was questioned, with Savile revealing an odd motive for always keeping a new car in the driveway. Knowing what we now know, it seems he prepared to be ready to "escape", to go on the run.
"I can go skint in a day. I can be finished like that. If a scandal comes up or something like that or the people go off you, you're finished. I'd much rather go skint with a brand new Rolls Royce in the garage than one that's eight years old that I love, because I'll get more for it.
"So the day that I get finished by some whatever, then the bits and pieces that I've got I'll make sure that they're all paid up and they're all brand new because I could then go and be very unhappy in the south of France, covered in shame and sunshine and mad birds with bikinis on for a long time because there was a new Rolls Royce there and a new this and a new that.
"So I am all terribly logical which is actually bad news for you guys, because common sense and logic don't leave you with a lot to find out."
"I've got the freedom to do pretty well anything now including being bored, or being alone or being with people or getting things, I suppose if I didn't have that I would only see that as a temporary setback because somewhere my inventiveness is such that if I had everything taken away from me now it wouldn't be long before I got it back again.
Throughout the interview Savile refuses to open up about his feelings and goes to great pains to claim he has no skeletons in his closet: "I mean I don't go away from here and indulge in some wild fetishes or wild weirdo things or anything like that.
"If you turned my stone over there ain't nothing underneath it. It's probably a boring stone for somebody like you who wants to find things out about people. What you're seeing is actually what there is full stop.
He also openly confesses "I'm dishonest in inverted commas insofar as I'm a ducker and diver and if I see an opportunity of getting something by only going halfway round the course I'll do it".
Just ..... an evil genius ..... :crazy:
arista
02-11-2012, 11:33 PM
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/11/2/201632/default/v1/mirror-1-329x437.jpg
Lord Alistair McAlpine
Yeah, highly likely (apparently) ..... :suspect:
Kizzy
03-11-2012, 12:33 AM
Lord Alistair McAlpine
Where did you hear this lee?
Kizzy
03-11-2012, 10:26 AM
Well, been digging ...
7 nov 1988, in lords hansard the Earl of Dundee explains there is a new 'task force' at Broadmoor headed by DR Jimmy Savile..?
AnnieK
03-11-2012, 10:31 AM
Every day there seems to be more failings by authorities uncovered. It's so worrying..
Well, been digging ...
7 nov 1988, in lords hansard the Earl of Dundee explains there is a new 'task force' at Broadmoor headed by DR Jimmy Savile..?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Scrymgeour,_12th_Earl_of_Dundee
Alexander Henry Scrymgeour, 12th Earl of Dundee (born 5 June 1949) is a Scottish peer and Conservative politician.
Dundee is the son of Henry James Scrymgeour-Wedderburn, 11th Earl of Dundee, and Patricia Montagu Douglas Scott.
He has sat in the House of Lords since 1983 and served as a Lord-in-Waiting (Conservative Party whip in the House of Lords) from 1986-1989. He served as Government Spokesperson for Education 1986-88, Government Spokesperson for Scottish Affairs 1986-89, Government Spokesperson for Home Affairs and for Energy 1987-89. He was made an elected hereditary peer (as Earl of Dundee) in 1999.
He has served as the UK delegate to the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe from 1992-97. He was also a Member of the Council of Europe parliament and the Western European parliament from 1992-99. The Earl is honorary consul of Croatia in Edinburgh, and is decorated with the Order of Prince Branimir.
Lord Dundee is also the Hereditary Royal Standard Bearer of Scotland, Constable of Dundee, and Chief of the Name and Arms of Scrymgeour.
I don't see any connection to Savile ..... :puzzled:
http://www.birkhillcastle.org.uk/
Birkhill is the family home of the Earl and Countess of Dundee and their family. Guests will very quickly feel at home in the friendly atmosphere. Located on the shores of the river Tay a short distance from St Andrews, the castle offers a wide range of facilities for corporate and private groups alike. The castle is also a most romantic venue for weddings.
Kizzy
03-11-2012, 11:25 AM
Wiki?...tuttut
It was posted to highlight the appointment by the tories in 88 of DR savile omah.
It also signalled the birth of 'care' in the community.
Wiki?...tuttut
It was posted to highlight the appointment by the tories in 88 of DR savile omah.
Surely we've already covered that in this thread ?
The Earl of Dundee, AFAIK, had nothing to do with the appointment ..... In August 1988, Savile was appointed, by junior health minister Edwina Currie, as chair of an interim task force overseeing the management of Broadmoor Hospital, after its board members had been suspended.
Edwina Currie: I have nothing to hide over Jimmy Savile
21 Oct 2012
Edwina Currie today defended her decision to allow Jimmy Savile to head up a taskforce driving reforms at Broadmoor hospital where he is accused of sexually assaulting patients.
Savile, despite having no expertise in mental health, was given the job of chairman of the taskforce overseeing Broadmoor in 1988 after the hospital had been placed under direct control of the Thatcher government following a series of strikes.
Mrs Currie at the time was health minister with responsibility for the country’s high security hospitals under the auspices of Kenneth Clarke, the then-Health Secretary. Savile counted himself as a friend of Margaret Thatcher and reportedly stayed at Chequers on a number of occasions.
Pete Saunders, the chief executive of the National Association for People Abused in Childhood, said of Savile's role at the mental hospital: "It really is akin to giving Dracula the keys to the blood bank."
It also signalled the birth of 'care' in the community.
The origins of community care
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/229517.stm The main push towards community care as we know it today came in the 1950s and 1960s, an era which saw a sea change in attitude towards the treatment of the mentally ill and a rise in the patients' rights movement, tied to civil rights campaigns.
The 1959 Mental Health Act abolished the distinction between psychiatric and other hospitals and encouraged the development of community care.
The 1960s
Through the 1960s, the tide continued to move against the big hospital institutions.
The introduction of a new wave of psychotropic drugs in the 1960s also meant patients could be more easily treated outside of an institution.
Another significant development was the growth of patients' and civil rights movements and the increase in charities which championed them.
In addition, right-wing civil libertarians like former health minister Enoch Powell, dubbed by some the Father of Community Care, argued that mental hospitals were effectively prisons, preventing a return to normal life.
There was also a belief that community care would be cheaper than hospital care, although in recent years mental health campaigners have consistently argued that, if properly funded, it is more expensive.
During the 1970s, large-scale psychiatric hospitals were steadily discredited.
The new district general hospitals which provided some psychiatric services contributed to the reduction in the number of beds in mental hospitals from 150,000 in the mid-1950s to 80,000 by 1975.
The 1980s
The 1980s saw the introduction of legislation which would give the mentally ill more rights.
The Mental Health Act 1983, currently under review, set out the rights of people admitted to mental hospitals, allowing them to appeal against committal.
However, by the 1980s concerns were being expressed about care in the community following a series of killings by people with mental health problems.
The 1984 murder of social worker Isabel Schwarz by a former client prompted a government inquiry into community care, led by Sir Roy Griffiths.
His 1988 report, 'Community Care: Agenda for Action' was the forerunner to the Community Care Act of 1990, major legislation which sets out the basis for community care as we know it today.
Blimey, Enoch Powell ..... :amazed:
Kizzy
03-11-2012, 11:53 AM
I know he had nothing to do with the appointment omah, my point was the Lords were falsely informed jimmy was a doctor...
flipping heck, keep up chuck! ;)
I know he had nothing to do with the appointment omah, my point was the Lords were falsely informed jimmy was a doctor...
flipping heck, keep up chuck! ;)
Since there was no link or (sic), I assumed it was your error ..... :laugh2:
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1988/nov/07/mentally-ill-offenders-treatment-1#S5LV0501P0_19881107_HOL_188
I should like briefly to refer again to Broadmoor, about which the noble Lord, Lord Allen, has spoken. The activities of the Broadmoor Hospital Board were suspended during August and the operational management of the hospital is in the hands of a specially formulated task force whose best known member is Dr. Jimmy Savile. Dr. Savile has been involved with the work of Broadmoor Hospital for many years and is now devoting his considerable talents to ensuring that the hospital functions smoothly during this difficult interim period before the new special health authority comes into being.
Kizzy
03-11-2012, 12:02 PM
Since there was no link or (sic), I assumed it was your error ..... :laugh2:
Error...me? don't be daft! lol
Error...me? don't be daft! lol
Well actually, yes ..... you said DR not Dr. (see quote and link above), so I construed that as a mis-spelling for DJ ..... :laugh3:
Of course, "the noble Earl" himself (or his secretary) must take the blame for the allocation of qualification where none belonged ..... :joker:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
03-11-2012, 12:39 PM
I'm sticking by Bruce Forsyth. He's been a "force" for decades too. And he was "sick" last week.....sick with worry eh Brucey :evilgrin:
CHRISTOPHER BIGGINS!!!
Where did you hear this lee?
If I told you I'd have to kill you :suspect:
But yeah, allegedly he used to rape little boys and even killed two of them :shocked:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
03-11-2012, 12:45 PM
If I told you I'd have to kill you :suspect:
But yeah, allegedly he used to rape little boys and even killed two of them :shocked:
ALLEGEDLY. I think at this point they could say anything and we'll believe it.
Kizzy
03-11-2012, 12:49 PM
Well actually, yes ..... you said DR not Dr. (see quote and link above), so I construed that as a mis-spelling for DJ ..... :laugh3:
Forgive me, I was trying to put the EMPHASIS on the Dr..
Was it a typo, or would Edwina rather the Lords not know a DJ was was running Broadmoor?
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
03-11-2012, 12:55 PM
http://www.channel4.com/news/how-jimmy-savile-revealed-all-in-the-psychiatrists-chair
Just ..... an evil genius ..... :crazy:
Evil genius. Maybe in his own way he wanted to get caught, and was having fun seeing how much he could get away with. I've been watching some of his clips and knowing what we know now, if you string it together he's actually giving hints. News of the week one asked "what do you do in your caravan" " anything i can lay my hands on "
"i'm feared in every girls school.." something or other.
and other things.
This was like the thomas crown affair but with the godfather of pedophilia.
Forgive me, I was trying to put the EMPHASIS on the Dr..
Was it a typo, or would Edwina rather the Lords not know a DJ was was running Broadmoor?
The latter ..... :laugh:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/-freddie-starr-says-police-1415841
FREDDIE Starr talked for the first time yesterday of his *horror at being dragged into the Jimmy Savile sex scandal and being given a grilling by cops.
Trembling with anger and disgust he told the Sunday People: “The way I’m being treated I feel like I’m the new Yorkshire Ripper.”
“It’s heartbreaking and its affecting my health and everything. It’s *unbelievable. I’m absolutely drained.
“I’ve had four heart attacks. I think if things keep on like this it’s going to kill me... or something will happen.”
Freddie battled to put on a brave face after inviting us for an exclusive interview at his Warwickshire home.
He claims he was distraught when *officers raided his home on Friday, *taking away stacks of his *belongings. They seized a computer hard drive, his old address books, precious old *photographs and his iPhone.
Then, nervously lighting up his fifth cigarette in an hour, Freddie’s voice nearly choked as he said: “I absolutely hate paedophiles. If I even see a child getting hurt on TV I have to change channel.”
Freddie and his fiancée Sophie Lea, 34, have hired a team of private *detectives “working non-stop round the clock” to help clear his name.
And he said that despite his inner turmoil he won’t rest until he has *finally proven his innocence.
Freddie said: "I’m not like Jimmy Savile. I met him three times. Once on the TV show Clunk Clink, once when he came into my sports shop in Leeds and once when he came to see me at a club in London with his mother.
“I’ve put my heart and soul into *showbiz – 50 years unblemished.
“Now all the good work I’ve done has been to no avail. It has all been taken away by one allegation.
“It shouldn’t be like that. But I know the truth will come out in the end.”
"The laddy doth protest too much, methinks."
:suspect:
Poor guy he shouldn't be dragged into this
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
04-11-2012, 12:54 AM
I'm so tired I read the name Freddie Mercury. I was like wtf he was involved too?! :nono:
lostalex
04-11-2012, 01:24 AM
I would support castration for child sex offenders.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4626112/BBC-Paedo-DJ-Jimmy-Savile-and-the-Yorkshire-Ripper-Peter-Sutcliffe-have-been-linked.html
WARPED Jimmy Savile has been sensationally linked to the Yorkshire Ripper serial slayings, The Sun can reveal.
Mass killer Peter Sutcliffe murdered third victim Irene Richardson yards from the paedophile DJ’s penthouse.
Regular Broadmoor visitor Savile also befriended Sutcliffe after the Ripper was moved to the secure hospital for his slaughter spree.
Professor David Wilson, Britain’s top expert on serial killers, believes police should now investigate whether the hideous pair’s sinister bond developed BEFORE Sutcliffe was caught.
Another crime expert even thinks BBC star Savile could have turned killer himself in his craving for more and more perverted thrills.
And the family of Sutcliffe’s first victim are demanding that cops question the killer, now 66, to find out if Savile was involved in any of the 13 Ripper murders or helped cover them up.
Former gravedigger Sutcliffe knifed Irene, 28, and killed her with three hammer blows near toilets in Roundhay Park, Leeds, on February 5, 1977.
Leeds-born Savile — suspected of abusing 300 young victims over 50 years — had taken a lease on his flat in Lakeview Court, overlooking the park, in September 1971.
Prof Wilson — dubbed a real-life version of TV’s Cracker — said: “At first sight the suggestion that Savile might be connected with the crimes committed by Sutcliffe will seem far-fetched.
“Yet predatory paedophiles and serial killers are the awful products of common forces which, in their case, were allowed to develop unchecked.
“So the links aren’t that far-fetched at all.
“Savile and Sutcliffe came from the same area and some of Sutcliffe’s crimes took place very close to where Savile lived.
“Both inhabited a world where men were encouraged to take what they wanted by force and where girls and women were seen as things to be used and then discarded. They used sex and violence instead of intimacy to express their inner demons — the need to be powerful and to control girls and women.”
Savile revealed his vicious streak in a 2002 interview. He said he wanted to murder TV documentary maker Louis Theroux for trying to make “salacious TV” at his expense.
He declared: “If he wants to die, he can die.”
Now if Savile was also a killer ..... :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
Kizzy
04-11-2012, 01:59 AM
WYP were regularly called to his club, where troublemakers were given a 'seeing to'.
He regularly went too far...
Mrluvaluva
04-11-2012, 03:03 AM
He has been pictured with Peter Sutcliffe many years ago. Search the internet...
He has been pictured with Peter Sutcliffe many years ago. Search the internet...
Ripper meets Frank Bruno as Jimmy Savile looks on :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2270180/Frank-Bruno-meets-Yorkshire-Ripper-Picture-of-boxing-legend-meeting-the-murderer-Peter-Sutcliffe-at-Broadmoor-top-security-hospital.html#ixzz2BDiC3qtK
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9653901/Jimmy-Savile-gave-job-to-chief-porter-who-had-keys-to-the-wards.html
Savile was first invited into Leeds General Infirmary in 1961 when he was asked by its chief porter, Charles Hullighan, to help its new hospital radio station, and promptly volunteered as a porter.
Savile had already been questioned by police over allegations of having sex with under-age girls at dance halls he ran across the north, and had become a pirate radio disc jockey. Before he died in 1995, Mr Hullighan said: "James came to the infirmary as a volunteer porter for a few days in 1961 and he stayed for a long time."
Mr Hullighan became an extremely close friend of the DJ, to the extent that in 1972 he was made company secretary of the firm that dealt with Savile's earnings, despite having no business background.
It is not known whether he told hospital authorities of the business relationship, but Savile paid him a salary and contributions towards a pension, and Mr Hullighan was able to have homes in Leeds and Scarborough.
Exactly what Mr Hullighan earned is not disclosed, but in 1981, when Savile was at the height of his fame, he shared in directors' pay of £91,500, the equivalent of about £310,000 today.
It can also be disclosed that the disgraced star's unrestricted role at Broadmoor secure hospital, where allegedly he sexually abused vulnerable patients, was approved by ministers at the time.
A Whitehall report signed off by Lord Owen revealed his appointment as honorary entertainments officer.
The confidential hospital advisory service report was sent to ministers in February 1974 and has a section on the BBC star that says: "We were pleased to meet Jimmy Savile for a discussion of his work as Honorary Assistant Entertainments Officer."
Savile used the title and was given an office in the grounds of the hospital, a bedroom, which he called his "cell", and his own set of keys to the wards.
The report also went to Barbara Castle, then health secretary.
According to the surviving papers, neither Lord Owen nor officials raised any questions or passed any comment about Savile's role.
A mate and two mugs ..... :rolleyes:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
04-11-2012, 01:27 PM
"Link to Yorkshire Ripper - DJ a Killer, too?"
yes.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
04-11-2012, 02:12 PM
Ripper meets Frank Bruno as Jimmy Savile looks on :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2270180/Frank-Bruno-meets-Yorkshire-Ripper-Picture-of-boxing-legend-meeting-the-murderer-Peter-Sutcliffe-at-Broadmoor-top-security-hospital.html#ixzz2BDiC3qtK
This whole thing is weird. Why would Bruno shake the hand of a mass murderer anyway? I think Frank was involved aswell. And this shake marked their mutual respect.
Kizzy
04-11-2012, 02:24 PM
Permanantly punch drunk Bruno? nahhh.
The links between Savile and Sutclliffe however... Both knew east leeds well, spent time in the locarno and mecca ballrooms?
They may well have met years before Broadmoor.
waterhog
04-11-2012, 03:07 PM
i don't are what anyone says - i am standing by frank - don't give 2 hoots about sac or jimmy. we need to let him fade now.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-may-have-abused-up-to-900-1415597
Serial paedophile Jimmy Savile might have abused as many as 900 victims.
It is feared the most recent figure of 300 could treble as more people come forward.
Scotland Yard is investigating complaints from 1958 to 2006.
The true scale of Savile’s abuse at BBC premises, hospitals and schools is likely to take several months to uncover.
:eek:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-tried-to-lure-status-1417239
Status Quo legend Francis Rossi was just a fresh-faced lad when he first appeared on Top of the Pops.
He still recalls the band’s big TV break in January 1968 but not all his memories are good ones.
As frontman Francis waited to play the psychedelic hit Pictures Of Matchstick Men, at seven in the charts, he was approached by the TV show’s leering host.
“Come and see me tarts,” the twisted pervert said to teenager Francis.
It was the rocker’s introduction to the real Jimmy Savile, the predatory paedophile and prime-time superstar.
Francis says: “The first time ever at Top of the Pops something went on.
“Our dressing room was away from his. But he said: ‘Come here later on because there’s going to be something. Come and see me tarts, some *********g tarts we have got in.’
“I was 18 but I just said ‘get out of it’. I wasn’t long married at the time. It didn’t enter my mind at all.”
The band appeared on Savile’s shows many times as their career rocketed but always kept their distance from the DJ.
Francis, who thinks there’s even more scandal to emerge about Savile’s vile inner circle, says: “I remember hearing stuff but I never saw anything. But everybody found him very odd.
“Parents would drop their daughters at Top of the Pops – it was a completely different world back then.
“I keep hearing ‘how did he cover it up for so long?’ I heard he paid a lot of people off. But where did he get the money? I think there is a lot to come out about it.
“Even Roy Wood texted me the other day and said ‘about time they got that b******.’ Yep. Everybody heard stuff about him but never saw anything.
“I remember people saying watch out for the Leeds Mafia. If you had said anything you’d have been mullered.”
It's a mystery ..... :puzzled:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4627229/Jimmy-Savile-victim-aged-EIGHT-is-youngest-to-emerge-so-far.html#ixzz2BIuLL1Zu
A WOMAN who was eight when Jimmy Savile abused her has emerged as his youngest victim so far.
She says he molested her in Stoke Mandeville Hospital as she recovered from surgery.
The Stoke Mandeville victim is suing Savile’s multi-million pound estate and the hospital for damages over the alleged 1986 attack.
Solicitor Liz Dux said: “This was a little girl who went in for treatment and came out an abuse victim. She should have been protected.”
Liz’s firm Slater & Gordon is representing 36 abuse victims — including a man and woman who were nine when DJ Savile attacked them on BBC premises in the 1980s.
:sad:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9646501/Jimmy-Savile-People-suspected.-Nobody-talked.-Why.html
One of the most striking aspects of the late Jimmy Savile’s lengthy career as a child abuser was how singularly little effort he made to conceal his predilections: the DJ and television presenter was, as his former colleague Paul Gambaccini put it, hiding “in plain sight”.
But while Savile was perhaps more brazen than other child abusers, the terrible inactivity of the “responsible” adults around him is a common feature of such cases. Paedophiles – particularly high status ones – are often expert manipulators who use their plausibility, dominant personality or social status to beguile or intimidate potential accusers. We often examine why children fear speaking out about abuse, but a less examined question is why the adults who should protect them so often stay silent too. As one former victim described it: “Adults look, but then they turn their faces away”. And they do so in the moral shadows.
For decades Savile bragged openly about behaviour with young girls which ranged from the inappropriate to the criminal, while simultaneously denying that he was a paedophile. The fact that no one in authority stopped him can be attributed to many factors, but they can’t say they weren’t warned. Savile felt confident enough to hint at his sexual activities himself without apparent concern.
When a well-known paedophile is exposed, it is commonplace for the cry to go up of “how could we not have known what was going on?” The more painful truth in the Savile case is that – while other adult abusers may have taken advantage of the opportunities Savile engineered – there were many other ordinary grown-ups who knew or suspected what went on, felt uneasy, but did nothing. This is no isolated phenomenon: it has been seen frequently in prominent child abuse cases, from those of paedophile priests in Ireland to the recent Rochdale scandal, in which a group of British Pakistani men systematically groomed and abused up to 50 under-age girls. Repeatedly, predatory adults used highly determined strategies to gain access to children, and “responsible” adults noticed something wrong, but wilfully ignored it in order to avoid the personal risk or embarrassment of confronting the abuser.
Colm O’Gorman, the executive director of Amnesty International in Ireland, has a precise understanding of the long-lasting damage caused not just by abuse, but by the inaction of adults. He was 14 and growing up in Fethard-on-Sea, Co Wexford, when Father Sean Fortune, a domineering parish priest, first targeted him in 1981.
Shortly after meeting O’Gorman, Fortune asked his parents if the boy could stay for the weekend in his house, and such was the trust in the priesthood that O’Gorman’s parents agreed. The abuse began that night. The priest used a toxic combination of threats, physical force and shame to intensify the nature and frequency of the sexual activity, which continued for two and a half years.
“He was a controlling, powerful individual,” says O’Gorman of Fortune, “a bully and egomaniac.” He recalls that, like Savile, with his theatrical persona, Fortune was noticeably grandiose: “He wore little dark sunglasses and flowing robes. He was described by others as incredibly charismatic.” Fortune made a point of setting up activities that brought him into frequent contact with young people, just as Savile did with his relentless round of clubs, discos, shows and charity events. The range, audacity and violence of Fortune’s abuse, detailed in the subsequent Ferns Inquiry, makes grim reading. Yet even before Fortune was ordained, the Catholic authorities knew he was a problem: he had molested young boys while leading a Catholic scout group and had been banned from such a role again.
His ordination went ahead, however, and the Church did little to arrest Fortune’s rampant exploitation of children despite subsequent complaints about him to senior clerics. The Church protected its reputation, and the community did not challenge the Church.
O’Gorman was the first of Fortune’s victims to report the abuse to the Irish police in 1995, whereupon many others came forward with similar appalling stories. Fortune committed suicide in 1999 while awaiting trial on 66 charges of sexual, indecent assault and buggery of young boys. Yet even as an adult, some things still had the power to surprise and wound O’Gorman afresh. When he returned to the village to make a film in 2002, he spoke to an older woman who had been there throughout Fortune’s time: “I was terribly naive. I said to her: ‘Did people know?’ and she said: ‘Yes, everybody knew all right. They used to say: “Don’t bend down in the churchyard in front of that fella.” ’ I felt as if I had been kicked in the gut. They had watched Fortune parading me around as a teenager, and they had known. And those who did know had kept their own children well away from him.”
Institutions and families ..... :rolleyes:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-police-fail-to-search-1417655
A seaside flat where Jimmy Savile entertained police cronies has not been searched by cops even though it is just about to be sold.
Fears are growing that vital clues to the pervert DJ's secret life could be lost if his flat on the fashionable Esplanade in Scarborough, North Yorkshire, is not examined soon.
It is now being sold to a buyer who reportedly offered £200,000 - £25,000 over the asking price.
Neighbours say that Savile's "Friday Morning Club" of mainly police officer pals who met at his Leeds home sometimes visited Scarborough too.
Yorkshire police, eh ..... :suspect:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20203433
More than 40 damages claims by alleged victims of Jimmy Savile are to be launched against the BBC, three other public bodies and his estate.
Russell Jones & Walker has sent the BBC, Leeds General Infirmary, Stoke Mandeville and Broadmoor hospitals and NatWest "letters before action".
The bank, executor to the BBC DJ's £4m estate, has frozen his account.
Meanwhile, Savile's name is to be removed from the list of honorary freemen of the borough of Scarborough.
Russell Jones & Walker is acting for 36 people aged from eight to 23 when they were allegedly abused.
Liz Dux, a partner at the firm and an expert in personal injury and child abuse cases, said cases were "still coming in by the day".
:idc:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-20210927
It is understood that the BBC is now investigating some 20 members of staff for alleged sexual misconduct.
George Entwistle, the BBC’s new director-general, told MPs last month that between eight and 10 former and current BBC staff and contributors had been named as alleged perpetrators of sexual abuse.
A BBC spokesman said: “All new allegations are passed to the BBC Investigations Unit or to the police as appropriate. Numbers will fluctuate both up and down as new allegations are made and investigated.
“Once they have been investigated – either resulting in further action or the matter being cleared and resolved – the cases will be closed.”
How can cases "resulting in further action" be closed ?
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
05-11-2012, 06:50 PM
dude I got like launched.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4629105/peter-sutcliffe-claims-jimmy-savile-is-innocent.html#ixzz2BOjTfzPQ
YORKSHIRE Ripper Peter Sutcliffe insists his old mate Jimmy Savile is innocent — and the paedophile DJ’s hundreds of victims are “jumping on the bandwagon”.
Sutcliffe, befriended by Savile during his Broadmoor visits, said on a tape leaked to The Sun: “It’s a load of rubbish. People are just getting carried away.”
Serial killer Sutcliffe claims Savile is being victimised — by the hundreds of tormented individuals who are revealing how the vile DJ abused them.
Sutcliffe even claimed he could personally vouch for his mate.
Speaking on the tape, he said: “I can’t fault him from my experiences of what he was like. I don’t care what these people who are coming out of the woodwork are saying.
“He visited a lot. He’d always come and chat with me on visits and I would introduce him to my visitors. Several times he left £500 for charities I was supporting. He wrote cheques out on the spot, a very generous man he was.”
Savile is accused of having abused more than 300 youngsters - including molesting a teenage female Broadmoor patient. But Sutcliffe, who murdered and mutilated 13 women, poured scorn on the claims of those Savile attacked.
He said: “Coming forward after 40 or 50 years or whatever, they are jumping on the bandwagon.
“It only takes a couple of rumours and then it goes like wildfire. I don’t believe he raped anyone. I think he kissed quite a few young women but that’s as far as he’s gone.
“It’s just going crazy, they love to savage people who are dead, people who can’t hit back — or prisoners who can’t reply.”
Sutcliffe also dismissed claims that Savile, who died last year aged 84, molested a 1970s Broadmoor patient during his many visits to the secure hospital.
On the tape he tells a pal, who has asked to remain anonymous: “Oh that’s a load of rubbish. It’s a load of crap.
“People were always there. He was never alone with anybody, there were always people about. He never did anything at Broadmoor.
“They are just getting carried away — going right over the top.”
The tape provides further disturbing evidence of the close links between Savile and Sutcliffe.
Serial killer expert David Wilson has already called for an inquiry into whether the pair knew each other before Sutcliffe was caught.
It came after The Sun revealed Sutcliffe killed third victim Irene Richardson yards from Savile’s flat in Roundhay, Leeds, in 1977.
A glowing testimonial from the Yorkshire Ripper ..... :eek:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
06-11-2012, 02:11 AM
hmm inneresting.
Sticks
06-11-2012, 05:44 AM
But maybe he has a point, how many of these making claims are just hoping to cash in?
Mr Saville is not around to defend himself
Nedusa
06-11-2012, 07:38 AM
Technically Jimmy Savile is innocent of any of these alleged crimes as our system of law works under the premise innocent until proven guilty.
We are never going to be able to bring any prosecutions as Mr Savile is no longer alive and as such he will never be convicted of any offence.
So regardless of the fact that over 900 alleged victims think he is guilty, most of his friends and family, vast swathes of the Public here and abroad, the unpalatable fact is in the eyes of the law he is innocent. Because of this I think his estate beneficiaries will be successful in fighting off any litigation resulting from these sexual abuse allegations.
This story will eventually die when another major scandal attracts the media's attention.
thesheriff443
06-11-2012, 07:56 AM
the only people that will be out of pocket when this is all done and dusted is the tax payer!.
millions in police bills.millions in lawyer fee,s
you cant hurt a dead man!
But maybe he has a point, how many of these making claims are just hoping to cash in?
How many do YOU think?
:conf:
Technically Jimmy Savile is innocent of any of these alleged crimes as our system of law works under the premise innocent until proven guilty.
We are never going to be able to bring any prosecutions as Mr Savile is no longer alive and as such he will never be convicted of any offence.
So regardless of the fact that over 900 alleged victims think he is guilty, most of his friends and family, vast swathes of the Public here and abroad, the unpalatable fact is in the eyes of the law he is innocent. Because of this I think his estate beneficiaries will be successful in fighting off any litigation resulting from these sexual abuse allegations.
What's a "vast swathe", numerically?
This story will eventually die when another major scandal attracts the media's attention.
You may have to wait until after Xmas for the "story" to catch up with Savile ..... :pipe:
I think his estate beneficiaries will be successful in fighting off any litigation resulting from these sexual abuse allegations.
There is only 1 major estate beneficiary, an institution which will receive £3.7m of the £4.3m estate, £600,000 goes into a trust fund for a further 8 beneficaries, who will receive interest only, and the remaining "bits and pieces", worth £20k, go to family and friends.
The possibility of offshore funds belonging to Savile's estate is being investigated.
:idc:
InOne
06-11-2012, 11:53 AM
I don't think Savile and The Ripper will have been linked in any murders before meeting at Broadmoor. Those types of serial killers rarely have an accomplice.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228814/Jimmy-Savile-quizzed-Yorkshire-Ripper-murders.html#ixzz2BTDDY7xr
A former detective who helped catch the Yorkshire Ripper has revealed Jimmy Savile was quizzed over the serial murderer's crimes.
Former West Yorkshire detective John Stainthorpe told ITV Calendar News that Savile was brought in for questioning after members of the public contacted the police naming the eccentric DJ as a possible killer.
Mr Stainthorpe, who worked for the West Yorkshire force for more than 40 years, and who spent years trying to catch Peter Sutcliffe, told Calendar: 'When the Ripper was really active one of the suspects put forward by members of the public was Jimmy Savile, strange as it may seem.
'Obviously it was not him, but he was interviewed along with many others, as you can appreciate.'
A West Yorkshire Police spokesman said: 'Hundreds of people were identified in the operation, we cannot be more specific than that at this time.
'Details of all who were questioned in connection with the crimes are in storage, so we cannot confirm that Jimmy Savile was spoken to.'
Mr Stainthorpe said the person who gave police the anonymous tip-off was 'aiming in the right direction'.
'Child perverts soon become child killers,' he added.
:idc:
Nedusa
06-11-2012, 08:51 PM
There is only 1 major estate beneficiary, an institution which will receive £3.7m of the £4.3m estate, £600,000 goes into a trust fund for a further 8 beneficaries, who will receive interest only, and the remaining "bits and pieces", worth £20k, go to family and friends.
The possibility of offshore funds belonging to Savile's estate is being investigated.
:idc:
Yes Omah, you have clearly been doing your homework, I think the Nat West Bank is the main beneficiary and as such they will fight tooth and nail to receive this money. Since they will receive a fairly large payment when they distribute to the various charities under their control.
Mrluvaluva
06-11-2012, 10:27 PM
But maybe he has a point, how many of these making claims are just hoping to cash in?
Mr Saville is not around to defend himself
He as good as admitted it years ago.
http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/jimmy-savile-peedo.jpg
Yes Omah, you have clearly been doing your homework, I think the Nat West Bank is the main beneficiary and as such they will fight tooth and nail to receive this money. Since they will receive a fairly large payment when they distribute to the various charities under their control.
I fear you are ill-informed ..... the bulk of Savile's known estate - just under £3.7 million - was held by NatWest on behalf of the Jimmy Savile Charitable Trust - I doubt that a bank can extract more than charges from an organisation which is being wound up and over which they have NO control, since, AFAIK, they are neither trustee nor executor.
:idc:
There is only 1 major estate beneficiary, an institution which will receive £3.7m of the £4.3m estate, £600,000 goes into a trust fund for a further 8 beneficaries, who will receive interest only, and the remaining "bits and pieces", worth £20k, go to family and friends.
Latest :
Savile's relatives said they do not want a penny of his £4.3million estate and called for the cash to be donated to an organisation to tackle sex crimes.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228814/Jimmy-Savile-quizzed-Yorkshire-Ripper-murders.html#ixzz2BUMGHwoB
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9660546/Jimmy-Savile-linked-to-North-Wales-child-abuse-scandal.html
Boys were reportedly molested to entertain Savile at Bryn Estyn care home in Wrexham, North Wales.
One victim said he was raped repeatedly by deputy head of the home Peter Howarth.
He said that he and other boys would also have their pyjama bottoms pulled down by Howarth for Savile's entertainment.
The boy, known as "Ben" said that Savile would regularly visit the care home with his brother in a chauffeured limousine.
Boys would be taken to visit him at Howarth's flat if they behaved well.
The victim told The Sun newspaper: "Howarth pulled down my pyjama bottoms in front of Savile. I was helpless as Jimmy watched.
He thought it funny entertainment. This happened to a number of boys."
:sad:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
07-11-2012, 04:35 PM
As a somewhat sane human being, I am having difficulty getting my head around this. (thank god) How can someone with eyes, lips, nose....a human as I be capable of such monstrosity. :conf: What kind of person do you have to be to enjoy watching other monsters hurt poor, little defenseless children and class as it as entertainment, then go out to the world and swagger and smile for photos as if you're a normal human being. :conf: How did you sleep that night after you heard those group of boys cry out pain that they were hurting? :conf: How did that noise now torment you all night or even during the act? :conf:
This rise in pedophiles makes me not want to have children. Or at least birth them in a world where they can be by my side every second of the day, 24/7/ Home schooling is looking like a better idea more and more too.
Nedusa
07-11-2012, 06:16 PM
I fear you are ill-informed ..... the bulk of Savile's known estate - just under £3.7 million - was held by NatWest on behalf of the Jimmy Savile Charitable Trust - I doubt that a bank can extract more than charges from an organisation which is being wound up and over which they have NO control, since, AFAIK, they are neither trustee nor executor.
:idc:
No, that's what I meant to say , however you said it far more eloquently...!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2229325/It-best-Saviles-nephew-backs-calls-paedophiles-body-exhumed-grave-cremated.html#ixzz2BYxtAw87
The nephew of paedophile Jimmy Savile has said that his uncle's body should be exhumed from its grave overlooking the North Sea.
Guy Marsden, son of Savile's sister Marjorie, thinks that the pervert should be removed from Scarborough cemetery and cremated.
Mr Marsden says other family members probably agree with him, adding it would spare anguish for victims or others who have loved-ones buried at Woodlands Cemetery, he told Sky News.
Mr Marsden said: 'If it is causing heartache and pain we would definitely go along with the people of Scarborough and the people whose loved ones are buried there.
'My own personal view, and I could say that of a lot of my family, would be that if it comes to it where he has to be moved, let's get it moved. Let's get it done.'
He has already told the Mail that his celebrity uncle attended ‘paedophile parties’ when he was 13 and Guy and his friends went to numerous events where he believes men sexually abused girls and boys as young as ten.
Several families of people buried in the council-owned cemetery say they do not want his body to remain in its prime position above all the other graves at the top of the hill.
Scarborough Cemetery isn’t a churchyard but Scarborough Borough Council officials have confirmed that the area where Jimmy Savile is buried is consecrated.
Permission to remove the body of the disgraced showbiz star would have to be granted by Church of England Judge Canon Peter Collier QC, who would have to weigh any 'potential benefit' against the 'Christian theology of the permanence of burial'.
:idc:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4633112/What-does-ripper-know-about-savile.html#ixzz2BafvqG3k
PRESSURE was growing last night for police to probe the emerging links between pervert DJ and Yorkshire Ripper Peter Sutcliffe.
They include the fact cops hunting the prostitute slayer took a cast of Savile’s TEETH — most likely to check against bite marks on victims.
Sutcliffe NAMED Savile in police interviews and two of his victims were FOUND near Savile’s flat. The TV star VISITED Sutcliffe in prison soon after his conviction and they were seen as FRIENDS during his later trips to Broadmoor Hospital.
Now questions are being asked over whether they may have known each other BEFORE the murderer was locked up.
The making of a cast of Savile’s teeth was revealed by ex-model and Benny Hill girl Nikki Critcher, who had become friends with Harley Street dentist Dr Mace Joffe around 1980.
Nikki, now a mum of three who has trained as a lawyer, said: “Mace was called up by police and used to keep us updated. He told us he had to go up to Leeds and take a cast of Jimmy Savile’s teeth.
“He said he had been told by the police that Savile was known to them for using prostitutes and that he had been a potential suspect.”
Former Page 3 girl Nikki added: “We were amazed. We didn’t think he’d be the sort — he was doing all his charity work and things.” South African-born Dr Joffe died in 2003.
Two hookers believed to be Ripper victims had bites on their breasts. Sutcliffe denied killing one of them, but detectives at the time reckoned he was lying to cover for an accomplice.
There's probably no substance in the implication, but ..... :suspect:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228791/Freddie-Starr-cancels-concentrate-defending-sex-abuse-allegations.html#ixzz2BdCf94bg
Freddie Starr has cancelled a performance to concentrate on defending allegations that he molested a schoolgirl in Jimmy Savile’s BBC dressing room, it emerged today.
Fans were expecting to see the comedian perform his Back From The Jungle Tour at the Wyvern Theatre in Swindon, Wiltshire, tomorrow, despite his arrest on Thursday.
Only around 300 tickets - costing £19.50 - out of 635 had been sold for the event, which was due to start at 7.30pm.
But today Wyvern Theatre director Derek Aldridge said the show would not go on, following discussions with Starr and his team.
He said: 'Following the weekend, we have held further discussions with Freddie Starr and his management team and have agreed that the show will no longer take place at the Wyvern Theatre on Wednesday, November 7.
'Freddie apologises to the hundreds of loyal fans who had purchased tickets, but hopes they understand that he is concentrating on defending the allegations made against him.
'We will be contacting customers to refund their tickets.'
He denied the comedian was disappointed with ticket sales - or that the theatre had taken the decision unilaterally - and said the venue had not been contacted by fans angry about the allegations.
Starr's "shows" are, reportedly, so bad that the fans may be relieved to get their money back ..... ;)
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2012/11/08/children-s-charity-demands-overarching-savile-and-north-wales-inquiry-91466-32192311/
The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) spoke out after a series of probes were launched covering allegations surrounding Jimmy Savile, North Wales’s Bryn Estyn children’s home, and the grooming and sexual abuse of children in Rochdale and Rotherham.
Andrew Flanagan, NSPCC chief executive, said: “The NSPCC believes that the Government should now commit to an overarching ’lessons learned’ review to pull together the findings from all the current inquiries into child abuse, once they are completed.
“There is a need to ensure that the public has confidence that the numerous inquiries under way will result not only in justice for people who have suffered abuse, but in improvements to the way we protect today’s children.
“It’s vital any review puts the needs of victims right at its heart and ensures recommendations are implemented in full.
“Whilst the cases of Jimmy Savile, Bryn Estyn children’s home, and others, may appear to be quite different there will be similar failings, both from institutions and individuals.”
He added that “public and political opinion will shift in a similar way to that seen following the death of baby Peter Connelly,” who died in 2007 after horrendous abuse at home.
“We must maintain this momentum and use this opportunity to fundamentally change how we help children and young people to talk about abuse,” said Mr Flanagan.
“As a country, and individually, we should commit to helping young people speak out as soon as they fear they are at risk, or as soon as abuse starts, not months or even years later.
“Much has improved in recent years but the cases of grooming gangs in Rochdale, Rotherham and elsewhere show that major failures in child protection can and do still occur.
“Confidence in the system and the authorities’ ability to take action is at serious risk; we must now act decisively if we are to turn this around.”
Yeah, the proliferation of "independent" inquiries may hinder rather than help those trying to formalise and enhance procedures to assist children in need, unless the findings of those inquiries can be collated, verified and actioned ..... :pipe:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9665260/Jimmy-Saviles-former-chauffeur-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape.html
Ray Teret, 71, was detained at his home in Altrincham, Cheshire on suspicion of rape.
A 61-year-old man was arrested at the same time and is also being questioned on suspicion of rape.
A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police said the allegations were not linked to the national investigation into abuse orchestrated by the late DJ and presenter Savile.
However the arrests follow three separate allegations that were reported to Greater Manchester Police in recent weeks since the Savile scandal erupted.
Detective Inspector Simon Davies of Greater Manchester Police said: “The arrest follows an investigation by the serious sexual offences unit into three separate allegations of historic sexual abuse which have been reported to Greater Manchester Police since October 28.
“I want to make it absolutely clear that this is not an investigation into the late Jimmy Savile, nor do any of the allegations relate to any involvement by Savile.
“The victims who have come forward have shown tremendous courage and our primary focus is to support these victims during what is clearly a very traumatic time for them. We have a duty to investigate their complaints thoroughly.”
Mr Teret worked as a pirate radio DJ in the North West in the 1960s and also had a show on Manchester’s Piccadilly Radio.
He and Savile became close friends when they worked together at Manchester’s Plaza dance hall.
They shared a flat together in Salford in the 1960s and Teret also acted as Savile’s driver.
The pair were so close that Teret would refer to Savile as ‘dad’ and the presenter would call him ‘son’.
What, who, where next ..... :eek:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
08-11-2012, 10:19 PM
Everyone Jimmy touched raped or abused someone in some form. It was an epidemic.
Mystic Mock
08-11-2012, 10:21 PM
Did Savile turn out to rape everyone in the end? seriously how did it take so long for him to be found out?
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/top-stories/leeds-city-council-preparing-to-strip-jimmy-savile-of-honour-1-5113607
Councillors are next week expected to agree that Jimmy Savile be stripped of the Leeds Award he was given by the city council in 2008.
A meeting of the full council will also scrap plans for a statue or some other form of memorial to the late television star following allegations that he sexually abused young girls.
Savile was never made an Honorary Freeman of Leeds, the highest honour the council can bestow, but on July 2, 2008, councillors granted him the Leeds Award, given to people who have made an outstanding contribution to the city.
Savile was recognised for his charity work. His name has already been removed from a list of Leeds Award recipients on a wall in the Civic Hall.
Expunge his name ..... :idc:
Sticks
09-11-2012, 02:33 PM
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
He has not been found guilty in any trial and therefore must be considered an innocent man. I thought that was how our judicial system worked?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jimmy-saviles-former-flatmate-ray-teret-released-on-bail-8300376.html
Jimmy Savile's former flatmate and chauffeur was released on bail today after he was arrested over historic abuse allegations.
Ray Teret was one of two men held on suspicion of rape yesterday by detectives from Greater Manchester Police (GMP) investigating three separate claims of sexual abuse.
The two men, aged 61 and 71, were arrested in Altrincham, Trafford.
Police emphasised that the accusations were not linked to the national inquiry into abuse by disgraced TV presenter Savile, with whom Teret worked and once shared a flat.
A GMP spokesman said: "A 71-year-old man and a 61-year-old man arrested on suspicion of rape yesterday have been bailed until November 29 pending further inquiries."
:idc:
Livia
09-11-2012, 03:31 PM
:idc:
You still here Omah? I thought you could only spare us 40 minutes a day. I see that, like British Rail, not all of your minutes are necessarily made up of sixty seconds.
You still here Omah? I thought you could only spare us 40 minutes a day. I see that, like British Rail, not all of your minutes are necessarily made up of sixty seconds.
Many of my minutes are made up of "the events of the meetings" that I attend ..... :laugh3:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/09/jimmy-savile-recordings-met-police
Scotland Yard has been passed up to 45 archive recordings of a Jimmy Savile BBC radio show in which the late presenter can allegedly be heard behaving inappropriately with young girls.
Detectives from the Metropolitan Police's Operation Yewtree investigation into sexual abuse by Savile and others were last week sent nine archive reels, containing up to five audio clips each, from the 1970s BBC Radio 1 show Savile's Travels.
The clips were discovered by an archivist in Finland and could contain material that was never broadcast by the BBC.
The BBC has been unable to verify the authenticity of the recordings, three of which have been published online. At least one of the recordings was aired by Channel 4 News last month.
In one clip available online, a girl can be heard telling Savile to "get off me" and "get off my backside" after the late presenter tells her to describe him as "the only one" in her life.
Darren Ingram, the archivist who uncovered the recordings, said there were "absolutely no smoking guns" in the clips, and added: "But there is certainly a background of inappropriate, misguided behaviour in front of a live microphone.
"I am sure Savile knew the old broadcasting maxim about treating every microphone as a live one, so there should be no scope for anyone to suggest that these were illicit recordings."
Yeah, Savile, as ever, living dangerously in plain sight ..... :suspect:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
09-11-2012, 09:15 PM
Does anyone else think the kid looks a bit awkard with Jimmy, especially when Jimmy puts his hand on his back at 8:20?
MPevk2FDudc&feature
Monster appears from 7:30
_Seth
09-11-2012, 11:08 PM
Does anyone else think the kid looks a bit awkard with Jimmy, especially when Jimmy puts his hand on his back at 8:20?
Looked no extra awkward to me...
billy123
10-11-2012, 04:29 AM
He as good as admitted it years ago.
http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/jimmy-savile-peedo.jpgOr did he?
Im not defending him but attacking the dirty media that gobble this rubbish up this is the real picture. (the above is photoshopped)
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/31/article-2225788-15AA883E000005DC-872_306x423.jpg
Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225788/Abused-child-poses-Jimmy-Saviles-Rolls-Royce-chilling-picture-released-lawyers-appeal-information-attack-late-TV-star.html
Nedusa
10-11-2012, 10:43 AM
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
He has not been found guilty in any trial and therefore must be considered an innocent man. I thought that was how our judicial system worked?
Yes I agree with you, however in this case the sheer weight of legally unproven allegations has changed the due process of law and as such Jimmy Savile is a sexual deviant, molester, abuser, rapist and Paedophile
Whilst there almost certainly is enough circumstantial evidence coupled with the witness testimonies to say realistically JS was some of the above, we will never know for sure the extent and depth of his crimes as they will always be unproven in a court of law.
However this story may lead onto more startling revelations connected with high level child Paedophile rings involving senior govt members and god knows who else...!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20286308
A man has been arrested in connection with the investigation into abuse claims made against Jimmy Savile.
Offers working on Operation Yewtree arrested a man in his 70s from Cambridgeshire at 07:15 GMT.
A police spokesman said the man had been arrested on suspicion of sexual offences, and had been taken into police custody locally.
:idc:
arista
11-11-2012, 09:50 AM
Yes a Old Man now
I assume a mate of Saville
Wilfred De'Ath, who is in his 70s, was held in Cambridgeshire at 07:15 GMT.
Mr De'Ath once produced a Jimmy Savile radio show. Neighbours at his flat in Cambridge said detectives removed bags from the property.
:idc:
arista
11-11-2012, 04:35 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02395/wilfred_2395143b.jpg
Former BBC producer Wilfred De’ath who was arrested today on suspicion of sexually assaulting a well-known British actress has insisted that he is a victim of ‘mistaken identity’
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9670403/I-know-how-Lord-McAlpine-feels-says-ex-BBC-producer-arrested-for-sex-abuse.html
I hope the Police are not in error
Mr De’ath, a producer of Savile’s on the BBC radio shoe Teen Scene, has lived for the last ten years in a one bedroom second floor flat in a housing association block in Cambridge.
In his autobiography 'Uncommon Criminal' published in 2008, Mr De'ath described himsef as a 'sexual predator' who had 'targeted' the actresses Susanna York, Julie Christie, and Charlotte Rampling. He admitted to being a voyeur and claimed to have 'lifelong twin obsessions with sex and religion.'
He claimed he was recruited by MI5 to befriend a Russian spy at an orgy and maintained that he discovered Kenny Everett.
:idc:
Livia
11-11-2012, 05:19 PM
I hope the Police are not in error
Well, at least you can continue to revel in it until some evidence appears... Of course if it turns out, Like Lord McAlpine, that this man is not guilty, you can blame the newspaper for getting in wrong and making you believe stuff.
Shaun
11-11-2012, 05:23 PM
Well, at least you can continue to revel in it until some evidence appears... Of course if it turns out, Like Lord McAlpine, that this man is not guilty, you can blame the newspaper for getting in wrong and making you believe stuff.
:lovedup:
Well, at least you can continue to revel in it until some evidence appears... Of course if it turns out, Like Lord McAlpine, that this man is not guilty, you can blame the newspaper for getting in wrong and making you believe stuff.
When you say "not guilty", do you mean "innocent"?
:puzzled:
Shaun
11-11-2012, 05:29 PM
She means 'not guilty', as in 'not guilty', babes x
She means 'not guilty', as in 'not guilty', babes x
Surely, "not guilty" is a plea not a condition - the man has not been charged yet, AFAIK ..... :conf:
I thought all you "freedom-fighters" insisted an suspected sex offenders being "innocent" until proven "guilty" ..... :pipe:
Livia
11-11-2012, 05:40 PM
Surely, "not guilty" is a plea not a condition - the man has not been charged yet, AFAIK ..... :conf:
I thought all you "freedom-fighters" insisted an suspected sex offenders being "innocent" until proven "guilty" ..... :pipe:
If you knew anything about the law you'd be a little more measured in what you post and more careful about the the unfounded allegations you throw around.
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Everyone. It's something you should think about next time you post one of your thrilling little tit-bits.
If you knew anything about the law you'd be a little more measured in what you post and more careful about the the unfounded allegations you throw around.
Name and link my "unfounded allegations" or else I accuse you of throwing around unfounded allegations .... :pipe:
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Everyone. It's something you should think about next time you post one of your thrilling little tit-bits.
I didn't query that - I queried the use of "not guilty" to describe a man who, AFAIK, has not even been formally charged with a crime yet, let alone brought up before a court of law to answer any such charge.
I do find it ironic that you persistently attack myself and my posts but jump to the defence of alleged sex-offenders ..... :laugh2:
Livia
11-11-2012, 06:04 PM
Name and link my "unfounded allegations" or else I accuse you of unfounded accusations .... :pipe:
I didn't query that - I queried the use of "not guilty" to describe a man who, AFAIK, has not even been formally charged with a crime yet, let alone brought up before a court of law to answer any such charge.
I do find it ironic that you persistently attack myself and my posts but jump to the defence of alleged sex-offenders ..... :laugh2:
So much of the gossip you post is made up of unfounded allegations it's impossible to list them all without giving up some of my precious time to do it. And frankly, who could be arsed? Your opinions are sketchy at best. You seem much happier posting other people's unfounded allegations.
I am not jumping to the defence of alleged sex-offenders. I am jumping to the defence of people who have been accused of a heinous crime without a shred of evidence being presented, and people like you are metaphorically licking their screen with glee at the excitement of it all. And excuse my use of 'not guilty', it must be the four years I spent studying law that has affected my semantics. Furthermore, if was looking for a discussion about semantics with someone on my level, your name wouldn't spring to mind.
So much of the gossip you post is made up of unfounded allegations it's impossible to list them all without giving up some of my precious time to do it. And frankly, who could be arsed? Your opinions are sketchy at best. You seem much happier posting other people's unfounded allegations..
Oh dear - hoist by your own petard ..... :laugh3:
I am not jumping to the defence of alleged sex-offenders. I am jumping to the defence of people who have been accused of a heinous crime without a shred of evidence being presented, and people like you are metaphorically licking their screen with glee at the excitement of it all. And excuse my use of 'not guilty', it must be the four years I spent studying law that has affected my semantics. Furthermore, if was looking for a discussion about semantics with someone on my level, your name wouldn't spring to mind.
Oh dear, still getting personal ..... :nono:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20286308
Wilfred De'Ath was bailed until December.
microscope
11-11-2012, 09:13 PM
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
He has not been found guilty in any trial and therefore must be considered an innocent man. I thought that was how our judicial system worked?
In the eyes of the law you are correct Sticks. It is 'innocent until proven guilty', but unfortunately when it comes to paedophelia and a media two-ring-circus where 'profit' comes before the consideration of anyone who actually may be innocent, it becomes 'guilty until proven innocent'. The public (most of which are a gullable thick bunch of people) will simply believe what is spewed out by the papers and on tv which then turns them into judge, jury and executioner of the person or persons they name, and without a trial or much evidence to back it up.
The evidence that the police are desperate to find which can link anyone else to what Jimmy Saville may have done will be simply people coming forward and saying 'this', 'that' and 'the other' about what aparently happened to them in the past. The second that happens the police will rush like mad to that person or persons house, probably mob-handed and it wont be long before the media find out, as theres more than likely someone in the force taking a back-hander :wink: :wink: as the newspaper that gets that juicy story the quickest will without doubt profit very much from it, so paying to get the information faster than anyone else will be in their best interest. It's a corrupt world you know :nono: The News of the World phone-hacking scandal for instance.
I was reading about Freddie Star's furious outburst towards these (couldn't give a ****) journalists who are more than happy to shove a camera and a microphone in his face and talk about allegations that he maybe a peadophile. Well his life is now ruined anyway (guilty or innocent) and I agree with his anger. I think anyone would with the way the whole corrupt system works.
Where there's smoke, there's fire ..... :whistle:
microscope
11-11-2012, 10:16 PM
originally posted by Livia
originally posted by omah
Name and link my "unfounded allegations" or else I accuse you of unfounded accusations ....
I didn't query that - I queried the use of "not guilty" to describe a man who, AFAIK, has not even been formally charged with a crime yet, let alone brought up before a court of law to answer any such charge.
I do find it ironic that you persistently attack myself and my posts but jump to the defence of alleged sex-offenders .....
So much of the gossip you post is made up of unfounded allegations it's impossible to list them all without giving up some of my precious time to do it. And frankly, who could be arsed? Your opinions are sketchy at best. You seem much happier posting other people's unfounded allegations.
I am not jumping to the defence of alleged sex-offenders. I am jumping to the defence of people who have been accused of a heinous crime without a shred of evidence being presented, and people like you are metaphorically licking their screen with glee at the excitement of it all. And excuse my use of 'not guilty', it must be the four years I spent studying law that has affected my semantics. Furthermore, if was looking for a discussion about semantics with someone on my level, your name wouldn't spring to mind.
Great post and so true Livia :cool: :cool:
Great post and so true Livia :cool: :cool:
:joker:
Where there's smoke, there's fire ..... :whistle:
..where there's smoke there's often a barbecue..with someone getting roasted....
..where there's smoke there's often a barbecue..with someone getting roasted....
Really?
We use burgers, bangers and bacon ..... :laugh2:
(or are you referring to a sexual activity ..... :conf:)
Kizzy
12-11-2012, 01:16 AM
What exactly is wrong with quoting the Telegraph?...
I would really love to know, while having a discussion in serious debates what on earth is wrong with posting reports from broadsheet newspapers as a point of reference?
I am sick to death of seeing the suggestion that members are throwing around accusations, or they in some way do not have the intellectual capacity to comment on news items...
I for one will continue to comment on this case as it continues, those who do take an interest in this topic should be (in my opinion) able to do so without constant heckling.
What exactly is wrong with quoting the Telegraph?...
I would really love to know, while having a discussion in serious debates what on earth is wrong with posting reports from broadsheet newspapers as a point of reference?
I am sick to death of seeing the suggestion that members are throwing around accusations, or they in some way do not have the intellectual capacity to comment on news items...
I for one will continue to comment on this case as it continues, those who do take an interest in this topic should be (in my opinion) able to do so without constant heckling.
Hear, Hear ..... :cheer2:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-20310241
A councillor has suggested demolishing a house which belonged to disgraced TV presenter Jimmy Savile after it was vandalised for a third time.
Orange paint was sprayed onto exterior walls of the cottage at Allt Na Reigh in Glencoe over the weekend.
Last month, stones were thrown at the property before "Jimmy the beast" was later written on a wall.
Highland councillor Andrew Baxter said the local community might want the cottage to be pulled down.
Savile bought the Glencoe cottage in 1998.
Mr Baxter told BBC Radio Scotland that the property sat in a prominent location in Glencoe, and there were growing concerns it had become the focus for the disgust people felt towards Savile.
Northern Constabulary said it was investigating the latest incident of vandalism.
Demolition would be good ..... :pipe:
Marcus.
13-11-2012, 04:46 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-20310241
Demolition would be good ..... :pipe:
yep it dose
arista
13-11-2012, 04:49 PM
Yes a Evil Place
Needs ro be removed
Sticks
13-11-2012, 05:21 PM
So because some people are squeamish a property that could be used to assist disabled people is to be destroyed?
People may commit evil acts with things or in places but, things are not evil and places are not evil
Are we going to start demolishing every single building and shop he may have visited? Back in 2003 he opened the events we had for In Town without Your Car day in our China town, should we now start sending in the bulldozers to wipe the whole of Newcastle's Stowell Street off of the map because he was there?
Kizzy
13-11-2012, 05:54 PM
It does seem a bit too far, like the suggestion he was dug up and cremated....*too macabre*
Sticks
13-11-2012, 06:13 PM
Maybe because he promoted the use of seatbelts in cars with "Clunk click every trip" we should remove these things from our cars and refuse to wear them
:bored:
So because some people are squeamish a property that could be used to assist disabled people is to be destroyed?
People may commit evil acts with things or in places but, things are not evil and places are not evil
Are we going to start demolishing every single building and shop he may have visited? Back in 2003 he opened the events we had for In Town without Your Car day in our China town, should we now start sending in the bulldozers to wipe the whole of Newcastle's Stowell Street off of the map because he was there?
Have "vandals" attacked the whole of Newcastle's Sowell Street three times and left it damaged and covered in anti-paedo graffiti ?
:conf:
Maybe because he promoted the use of seatbelts in cars with "Clunk click every trip" we should remove these things from our cars and refuse to wear them
:bored:
If you think it's a good idea, do it ..... :pipe:
Sticks
13-11-2012, 09:20 PM
Latest breaking news (https://twitter.com/Stickings90/status/268459489424982016)
Nedusa
13-11-2012, 09:28 PM
Hate to think what they would do to him if he was actually found guilty of anything...!!!!
thesheriff443
13-11-2012, 09:34 PM
So because some people are squeamish a property that could be used to assist disabled people is to be destroyed?
People may commit evil acts with things or in places but, things are not evil and places are not evil
Are we going to start demolishing every single building and shop he may have visited? Back in 2003 he opened the events we had for In Town without Your Car day in our China town, should we now start sending in the bulldozers to wipe the whole of Newcastle's Stowell Street off of the map because he was there?
i will add this,
a gun is not evil,but some evil people use them.
i will add this,
a gun is not evil,but some evil people use them.
Cars are not evil, but some evil people use them ..... :pipe:
Kizzy
14-11-2012, 12:43 AM
The Observer ran an article chris Patten: The BBC a moral institution.
Hmmmm?..
Been looking for this for ages.....are you still awake omah?...:)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ray-teret-further-14-women-1434563
Detectives probing alleged sex offences carried out by Jimmy Savile’s former driver were last night looking into 17 separate complaints from women.
Ray Teret, 71, was arrested at his home in Greater Manchester last week over the alleged rape of three children in the 1960s & 70s.
Since news of his arrest broke, cops at the Serious Sexual Offences Unit have been contacted by 14 more women who say they were subjected to a catalogue of crimes at the hands of Teret including indecent assault, the sexual abuse of children, indecent exposure and false imprisonment.
Police in Manchester have distanced their investigation into Teret from the nationwide inquiry into predatory paedophile Savile being conducted by officers at Met.
The original complaints against Teret, a former pirate DJ known as Savile’s sidekick throughout the sick star’s TV heyday, were made to the Met who passed them north when there was no suggestion the Jim’ll Fix It presenter was involved.
The woman came forward after news of Savile’s long-term abuse came to light.
They said Teret raped them while they were under 16 while he worked in Manchester.
Police said the new complaints against Teret date from 1962 to 1979 and allegations centred on the Sale and Altrincham areas.
The alleged victims are now set to give statements to specially trained officers and are being offered support.
Teret and his housemate, Alan Ledger, 61, were held at their home in Altrincham last Thursday.
Ledger is suspected of raping one of the girls with Teret.
The pair were questioned before being bailed pending further inquiries.
Detective Inspector Simon Davies, leading the investigation for Greater Manchester Police, said: “Police investigating allegations of historic sexual abuse in the Trafford area are now looking into 17 separate complaints.
“The arrests followed an investigation by the Serious Sexual Offences Unit into three separate allegations of historic sexual abuse which have been reported to Greater Manchester Police.
“Since the arrests, a further 14 potential victims of historic sexual abuse have been identified, making a total of 17, and these complaints are also now being investigated by the Serious Sexual Offences Unit.
“Officers are continuing to provide specialist support and welfare to all the victims.
“As we said at the outset of this investigation, our duty is to all those victims who have shown great courage to come forward and report they have been victims of historic sexual abuse.
“Because of the number of victims who have come forward since last week, our investigation is now both wide-ranging and complex and clearly we need to investigate every complaint thoroughly which will take time.
“The two men who were arrested have been released on bail while we carry out these inquiries.
“Again, I want to be absolutely clear that while the publicity surrounding the late Jimmy Savile and the investigation launched by the Metropolitan Police Service into his abuse was the genesis for this inquiry and victims coming forward, we are not investigating any complaints that Savile himself was either present or involved in any of the allegations.”
:idc:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20325913
Dame Janet Smith, who is conducting an inquiry into allegations of sexual abuse by Jimmy Savile, has launched an appeal for witnesses.
A website has been set up giving contact details and listing groups which provide support for victims.
The Dame Janet Smith Review was set up last month by the BBC to conduct an independent review of the corporation's practices during the Savile era.
Dame Janet's review is designed to "examine whether the BBC's culture and practices during those years enabled the sexual abuse of children to continue unchecked".
Part of her role is to obtain evidence from people who allege inappropriate sexual conduct on the part of Savile and investigate "whether BBC personnel knew or ought to have known of Savile's conduct".
The Dame Janet Smith Review website says it would like to hear from those who were the subject of inappropriate sexual conduct by the presenter on BBC premises or on location, and from those who were aware of or suspected such conduct.
It also seeks information from anyone who complained or raised concerns about Savile within the BBC, and from people familiar with its culture and practices, including those who held senior positions.
Dame Janet, a former appeal court judge, will also consider whether the BBC child protection and whistle-blowing policies are fit for purpose.
She previously led the Shipman Inquiry, which examined the activities of serial killer GP Dr Harold Shipman.
:idc:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20336798
A man in his 60s has been arrested on suspicion of sexual offences as part of the police investigation into abuse claims made against Jimmy Savile.
The man, from Bedfordshire, was taken into custody at 07:45 GMT on Thursday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20336798
About 450 potential victims of sexual abuse have now been identified by the police investigation set up in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal.
Late last month, police said they had identified about 300 potential victims of Savile and other abusers.
BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said: "The police said a couple of weeks ago that Savile was a predatory sex offender - one of the worst sex offenders that they had come across.
"The figures that we are being given today suggest that the scale of his offending is even worse than was first feared."
Kazanne
15-11-2012, 03:54 PM
http://news.uk.msn.com/breaking-news/dave-lee-travis-arrested-by-jimmy-savile-police
Dave Lee Travers now arrested.
arista
15-11-2012, 05:03 PM
Yes the BBC has stopped Tonights BBC4
Top of the Pops BBC4 7:30PM with DLT.
Sticks
15-11-2012, 05:18 PM
So he is obviously guilty because he has been accused. No need for a trial, so we can save public money, so let's lock him up right now and chop up the key, better yet invite the local lynch mobs. Saves feeding him in prison.
Everybody and anybody accused must be guilty, or else why would they be so accused.
The justice of the mob is the truest justice of all, isn't it?
:bored:
Kazanne
15-11-2012, 05:39 PM
So he is obviously guilty because he has been accused. No need for a trial, so we can save public money, so let's lock him up right now and chop up the key, better yet invite the local lynch mobs. Saves feeding him in prison.
Everybody and anybody accused must be guilty, or else why would they be so accused.
The justice of the mob is the truest justice of all, isn't it?
:bored:
None of us have said he was guilty have we?,just posting the latest news so people can follow it if they are interested.
Nedusa
15-11-2012, 05:48 PM
So he is obviously guilty because he has been accused. No need for a trial, so we can save public money, so let's lock him up right now and chop up the key, better yet invite the local lynch mobs. Saves feeding him in prison.
Everybody and anybody accused must be guilty, or else why would they be so accused.
The justice of the mob is the truest justice of all, isn't it?
:bored:
I totally agree with your comments, this whole Jimmy Savile story is now starting to make me feel very uncomfortable. It truly is descending into a Witch hunt, because JS was a dirty old man who may have overstepped the mark (remember Nothing has been proven) the establishment feels noticeably embarrassed and are now looking for "live" scapegoats. The whole thing is becoming difficult to take seriously when we are fed reports that over 450 people where sexually abused raped,molested by this fiend...!!!!
Really...!!! slight over-exaggeration maybe ?? lets try and keep this story in perspective because if it continues to be overcooked like this then we may miss the real victims of JS actions the few he actually seriously abused.
As for looking for other friends of JS who knew him back then and putting two and two together to get five by creating allegations that they must have all been involved is simply outrageous slander.
Where's the proof.... in fact where's the proof in any of it ?? Most of it is Tabloid driven media hype designed to sell papers....!!!
Kate!
15-11-2012, 05:50 PM
Next Wednesday 21st November, ITV1 10.35pm
Update: The Jimmy Savile Investigation.
Should be interesting.
arista
15-11-2012, 05:51 PM
DLT is nothing like Savile
as Savile raped children he was Evil.
So he is obviously guilty because he has been accused. No need for a trial, so we can save public money, so let's lock him up right now and chop up the key, better yet invite the local lynch mobs. Saves feeding him in prison.
Everybody and anybody accused must be guilty, or else why would they be so accused.
The justice of the mob is the truest justice of all, isn't it?
:bored:
I think I've heard that particular sarcastic viewpoint several times before - it seems to me that it lacks credibility when the only posters using the words "guilty", "innocent" and "not guilty" along with the emotive descriptions "lynch-mobs" and "witch-hunts" are those apparently pleading in support of alleged sex-offenders while ignoring the cries of the truly innocent, the hundreds of violated children ..... :suspect:
None of us have said he was guilty have we?,just posting the latest news so people can follow it if they are interested.
Exactly ..... :thumbs:
Marcus.
15-11-2012, 07:02 PM
Next Wednesday 21st November, ITV1 10.35pm
Update: The Jimmy Savile Investigation.
Should be interesting.
may watch that it be my something to watch
Where's the proof.... in fact where's the proof in any of it ?? Most of it is Tabloid driven media hype designed to sell papers....!!!
So what's a tabloid and what's not?
The last time I looked there were 308 media outlets carrying the DLT story - they can't ALL be tabloids ..... :conf:
Sticks
15-11-2012, 07:06 PM
while ignoring the cries of the truly innocent, the hundreds of violated children ..... :suspect:
While the other lot ignore such things as due process, rule of law and jurisprudence
While the other lot ignore such things as due process, rule of law and jurisprudence
Who's doing that?
If you have any accusations, please make sure you substantiate them, otherwise you, too, may be "guilty" of the same "crimes" that you accuse others of ..... :pipe:
Sticks
15-11-2012, 08:07 PM
We do seem to have trial by media
microscope
15-11-2012, 09:10 PM
Yes the BBC has stopped Tonights BBC4
Top of the Pops BBC4 7:30PM with DLT.
Yes maybe they should wipe all the Top of the Pops with DLT and Jimmy Saville in as if people watch them they may have a fit or put a brick through their tv or die or worse!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
But on a serious note, I think it's disgusting that once again the police arrest a celebrity and it's now plastered all over the news and headline news to, when the only possible evidence the police could possibly have is that his name has been mentioned by one of the complainants who decided to say nothing at the time that they claim that these supposed crimes took place, but after being questioned for probably 18 hours or something as the police need plenty of tea breaks and toilet breaks etc.. etc.. during the interview :sleep: as well as asking the same questions to him probably 20 times just in case he may give in and say "I'm guilty"!! and then when DLT and his solicitor have been through all of that he will be released on bail, just like Gary Glitter and Freddie Starr. But no matter what happens, whether he is charged or not, the mud from all this will stick to him for life, and he will be judged as a paedophile for as long as he lives and also after he is dead.
There is a simple way of avoiding all of this unnecessary smearing of someone who could be innocent, and that is to arrest someone without the media finding out about it and one day that just may happen. But not the way things stand now, which is very cruel..
arista
15-11-2012, 10:29 PM
http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/11/15/204208/default/v1/evs-xtaccess-2012-11-15-cam-c-22h00m13s10-1-522x293.jpg
DLT Bailed
http://news.sky.com/story/1012109/dave-lee-travis-bailed-by-savile-detectives
I bet the old fella can not recall.
But on a serious note, I think it's disgusting that once again the police arrest a celebrity and it's now plastered all over the news and headline news to, when the only possible evidence the police could possibly have is that his name has been mentioned by one of the complainants who decided to say nothing at the time that they claim that these supposed crimes took place, but after being questioned for probably 18 hours or something as the police need plenty of tea breaks and toilet breaks etc.. etc.. during the interview :sleep: as well as asking the same questions to him probably 20 times just in case he may give in and say "I'm guilty"!! and then when DLT and his solicitor have been through all of that he will be released on bail, just like Gary Glitter and Freddie Starr. But no matter what happens, whether he is charged or not, the mud from all this will stick to him for life, and he will be judged as a paedophile for as long as he lives and also after he is dead.
It seems to me that is pure speculation and unfounded assertion, in fact exactly what you accuse others of ..... :laugh3:
There is a simple way of avoiding all of this unnecessary smearing of someone who could be innocent, and that is to arrest someone without the media finding out about it and one day that just may happen. But not the way things stand now, which is very cruel..
Isn't that what tyrannical states do - send in the secret police at the dead of night and "disappear" the arrestee ..... :puzzled:
Nedusa
15-11-2012, 11:37 PM
So what's a tabloid and what's not?
The last time I looked there were 308 media outlets carrying the DLT story - they can't ALL be tabloids ..... :conf:
Don't be so pedantic , you are well aware of the point I am making !!
Don't be so pedantic , you are well aware of the point I am making !!
Yes, and I'm querying it :
Where's the proof.... in fact where's the proof in any of it ?? Most of it is Tabloid driven media hype designed to sell papers....!!!
AFAIK, ALL UK newspapers are covering the JS/BBC scandal, including not only what I would call tabloids :
Daily Star
Daily Mirror
Daily Record
The Sun
but also the compacts:
Daily Express
The Independent
The Morning Star
The Scotsman
The Times
Daily Mail
and even the broadsheets:
The Daily Telegraph
Financial Times
Whether they are selling more copies of each newspaper, I have no idea, but the "story" continues to be of mass worldwide interest on the internet, as evidenced by a simple Google search.
Nedusa
16-11-2012, 12:22 AM
Yes, and I'm querying it :
AFAIK, ALL UK newspapers are covering the JS/BBC scandal, including not only what I would call tabloids :
Daily Star
Daily Mirror
Daily Record
The Sun
but also the compacts:
Daily Express
The Independent
The Morning Star
The Scotsman
The Times
Daily Mail
and even the broadsheets:
The Daily Telegraph
Financial Times
Whether they are selling more copies of each newspaper, I have no idea, but the "story" continues to be of mass worldwide interest on the internet, as evidenced by a simple Google search.
Please stop this nonsense , you are well aware of the point I was making within the context of my post. You do not need to challenge everything quite so literally.
I think you need to chill out a bit, relax take a bit of time off as you do seem to have posted on this particular thread quite a lot.
Perhaps you need to re-assess how much time you are spending on this forum as you seem to think you are some sort of self appointed sage, bringer of wisdom.
Perhaps you need to get a life instead of spending 23 hours a day commenting on everybody else's
Now go to bed....!!!!!!
Please stop this nonsense , you are well aware of the point I was making within the context of my post. You do not need to challenge everything quite so literally.
I think you need to chill out a bit, relax take a bit of time off as you do seem to have posted on this particular thread quite a lot.
Perhaps you need to re-assess how much time you are spending on this forum as you seem to think you are some sort of self appointed sage, bringer of wisdom.
Perhaps you need to get a life instead of spending 23 hours a day commenting on everybody else's
Now go to bed....!!!!!!
Perhaps you ought to mind your manners ..... :pipe:
cassieparis
16-11-2012, 03:54 AM
We do seem to have trial by media
Victims included.
arista
16-11-2012, 05:07 PM
DLT has said he has Nothing to do with Child Abuse
His Weekend Magic AM Radio has stopped
until his Court case is over.
Ref: Ch5 News
Jesus.
16-11-2012, 05:15 PM
DLT has precisely 69% too much hair on his body.
He used to hide children in it, apparently. Like fox news, I report, you decide.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-previews/tv-preview-jimmy-savile-investigation-1446869
Seven weeks ago in The Other Side Of Jimmy Savile, detective turned investigative reporter Mark Williams-Thomas buried the reputation of the Jim’ll Fix It presenter forever.
His new film is expected to provide evidence that Savile’s abuse of girls as young as 10 spanned four decades.
It will also reveal how he was able to get access to places like Broadmoor and Stoke Mandeville Hospital and reveals how his TV programmes were engineered to give him unlimited access to children.
The question of why the rumours and gossip were never acted upon just isn’t going to go away.
:idc:
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
21-11-2012, 05:39 PM
Is this tonight? I shall watch to get more depressed.
Marcus.
21-11-2012, 05:40 PM
i not
Is this tonight? I shall watch to get more depressed.
Exposure Update: The Jimmy Savile Investigation is on tonight at 10:35pm on ITV1.
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-11-21/jimmy-savile-exposure-update-fame-cannot-shield-sex-abusers-from-justice
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/21/jimmy-savile-top-of-pops
The BBC may axe its re-runs of classic editions of Top of the Pops on BBC4 as a result of the Jimmy Savile scandal.
Vintage shows from the 1970s featuring the disgraced presenter have already been pulled from the schedule, and last week BBC4 shelved an episode presented by Dave Lee Travis after the DJ's arrest.
The BBC is currently airing editions of the chart show from 1977, but BBC4 controller Richard Klein said he had not decided whether to continue into 1978.
"It is complex and it is difficult to judge," Klein told a Broadcasting Press Guild lunch on Wednesday.
"These are judgments we are making on a case-by-case basis. It requires us to be cautious and careful without overreacting, to take into account public sensibilities and legalities, and hopefully we are going to get it right."
He added: "At the moment we actually haven't scheduled 1978, so we'll take a view. We have only done it the last two years [beginning with 1976] so if we didn't do it again it wouldn't be the end of the world and audience figures have declined quite markedly.
"It has done a good job, whether I choose to continue or not I don't yet know."
Asked whether the Savile fallout was a factor in his decision about the 1978 reruns, Klein said: "Of course it is. How else are we supposed to respond?"
It should be axed anyway - TOTP was 90% boring ..... :bored:
arista
21-11-2012, 07:25 PM
Thanks for the Update
I will Record it.
Top Docu ITV1HD tonight
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
21-11-2012, 10:49 PM
I wonder if one day we'll discover Saville himself was abused as some abusers are victims of early abuse themselves.
Either way, even after all this time i'm still having difficulty wrapping my head around the fact that it was feasible for one human being to commit all these crimes so easily in "public". It's like a bad movie. :conf:
Kizzy
22-11-2012, 12:43 AM
What a total cop out that programme was!
'nobody knew what his role was'....
bollocks mrs ex minister!
what exactly did that expose?....nothing we didn't already know!
Very disappointing.
What a total cop out that programme was!
'nobody knew what his role was'....
bollocks mrs ex minister!
what exactly did that expose?....nothing we didn't already know!
Very disappointing.
I'll give it a miss and watch a movie, then ..... :pipe:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9694258/The-Jimmy-Savile-Investigation-Exposure-Update-ITV1-review.html
Unlike that first Exposure – which was a tour de force, full of new and shocking and direct and cogent allegations of criminal behaviour – this second one really had nothing new to expose at all. It was a narrative of the case against Savile, rather than being evidence of it. That journalistic thinness was a disappointment – but did serve to show what a brilliant job Williams-Thomas and his team had done the first time around.
I didn't miss much then ..... :pipe:
Kizzy
22-11-2012, 12:07 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9694258/The-Jimmy-Savile-Investigation-Exposure-Update-ITV1-review.html
I didn't miss much then ..... :pipe:
Told you, how come you missed it, I thought you would have been glued to the screen?...:suspect:
Told you, how come you missed it, I thought you would have been glued to the screen?...:suspect:
I took your review seriously and found something else to watch ..... ;)
Kizzy
27-11-2012, 01:51 PM
Can't post links sorry but Chris Patten and the new DG of the BBC are being questioned by MP's at the moment.
(guardian online)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20544939
A man in his 80s has been released after being interviewed by detectives investigating allegations which arose following revelations about TV presenter Jimmy Savile.
The man, from Berkshire, attended a London police station by appointment and was interviewed under caution.
Officers from the Metropolitan Police's Operation Yewtree searched an address in Berkshire on Saturday.
The police said it was part of the inquiry not directly related to Savile.
The man arrived at 12:00 GMT, said the Met, and has now "left police premises". He has not been charged.
:idc:
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glance/main-section/hospital-reveals-more-claims-of-abuse-by-savile-1-5187069
FRESH fears have been raised about the extent of disgraced TV star Jimmy Savile’s activities at a Yorkshire hospital.
NHS bosses said in October that they had been contacted by two people about alleged incidents involving Savile at Leeds General Infirmary in the 1970s.
Now it has emerged that four more alleged incidents involving the DJ have come to light.
All are understood to relate to the infirmary, where Savile worked as a volunteer porter at the height of his fame in the 1970s.
The new figure was confirmed to the Yorkshire Post following a request made to Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust under the Freedom of Information Act.
:idc:
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/top-stories/jimmy-savile-s-penthouse-leeds-flat-is-close-to-being-sold-1-5189217
Disgraced star Jimmy Savile’s old home in Leeds is on the verge of being sold, the Yorkshire Evening Post understands.
The penthouse flat in Roundhay was put on the market before the sex abuse claims that have destroyed Savile’s reputation came to light.
As recently as Friday it was still listed as a property for sale on the website of Leeds-based Alan Cooke Estate Agents.
However, it is thought an offer was accepted on the flat around a month ago.
According to the listing on the Alan Cooke website on Friday, the flat was on the market for £325,000.
It said the property enjoys a “magnificent outlook” over Roundhay Park but also warns it is “ripe for improvement”.
Features picked out on the site include a double parking space in its building’s underground garage and a lift to the flat’s fifth floor private entrance.
The listing made no mention of the property’s now-notorious previous occupant.
Proceeds from its sale will go to Savile’s estate, which has been frozen by his executor, NatWest Bank, ahead of possible damages claims from the Jim’ll Fix It host’s alleged victims.
:idc:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20627765
Metropolitan Police officers have arrested another man as part of Operation Yewtree, the investigation into historic sex offences.
In a brief statement, Scotland Yard said that officers had arrested a man in his 60s in connection with the investigation.
The man was arrested at 07:40 GMT on suspicion of sexual offences and taken to a central London police station.
The individual is the sixth to be questioned as part of the operation.
:idc:
Vanessa
06-12-2012, 01:05 PM
How many more suspects are there? :shocked::nono:
arista
06-12-2012, 01:23 PM
why is max on this thread?
Vanessa
06-12-2012, 01:24 PM
why is max on this thread?
Sorry. Wrong thread.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20627765
Leading public relations expert Max Clifford has been arrested on suspicion of sexual offences.
He was arrested by Met Police officers at 07:40 GMT at his home in Surrey.
Officers from Operation Yewtree - set up in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal - made the arrest but it is not connected to the allegations made against the late BBC presenter.
A solicitor acting for Mr Clifford said he was being interviewed by police and would assist them "as best he can".
Max Clifford is one of the most influential figures in the British media.
He is the sixth person to be questioned as part of Operation Yewtree, the Met's investigation into allegations, some dating back decades, that have arisen since the late Jimmy Savile was accused of abuse.
The operation has three strands.
One is looking specifically at the actions of Jimmy Savile and the second strand concerns allegations against "Savile and others". The separate third strand relates to alleged complaints against other people unconnected to the Jimmy Savile investigations.
Scotland Yard said the man they took to a central London police station on Thursday morning was being investigated under the last strand of Yewtree's investigations.
He might get an "upgrade" ..... :idc:
Marcus.
06-12-2012, 04:45 PM
wow there an lot
BBfanUSA
06-12-2012, 04:56 PM
Okay I keep seeing this stuff here so I decided to peek in.
Wow, this is plain unbelievable. How could so many people hide this?
There's something similar going on here in the states but it pales in comparison to this. (Sandusky and his aftermath.)
Sticks
06-12-2012, 10:03 PM
Salem Witch Trials anyone?
Salem Witch Trials anyone?
Yes please ..... :thumbs:
I would love to get hold of the 1968 George C. Scott version ..... :cool:
Sticks
07-12-2012, 07:12 AM
Where many were executed who were late found to be innocent.
To be accused meant you were considered guilty with no evidence needed.
The accusation was proof it self
Anyone questioning the way the witch finder was behaving were accused and executed as witches
All because of a game by two children....
Where many were executed who were late found to be innocent.
To be accused meant you were considered guilty with no evidence needed.
The accusation was proof it self
Anyone questioning the way the witch finder was behaving were accused and executed as witches
All because of a game by two children....
Those were the days, eh ..... :pipe:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/dec/06/jimmy-savile-bbc-pollard-report
The Pollard inquiry into BBC executives' handling of the axed BBC Newsnight investigation into Jimmy Savile is to be published in the week of 17 December.
Headed by former Sky News boss Nick Pollard, the investigation is looking into whether there were management failings in the BBC's handling of the aborted Newsnight probe in late 2011 into alleged sexual abuse by Savile.
The inquiry was due to report in mid-November but has been overwhelmed by the vast amount of evidence being assessed. Former director generals George Entwistle and Mark Thompson have been interviewed in the Leveson inquiry-style process by Alan Maclean QC, who represented Tony Blair and Alastair Campbell during the Hutton inquiry.
Most of the interviews with BBC staff have already taken place at the London offices of law firm Reed Smith, but those close to the Pollard review said it may be necessary to call witnesses for further evidence before the report is concluded.
Could be interesting ..... :idc:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2245375/Jimmy-Savile-police-Detectives-investigate-sex-offence-claims-25-celebrities-expect-arrest-weeks.html
Police are investigating claims against 25 celebrities of alleged sex offences in connection with the Jimmy Savile inquiry.
At least six of the high-profile figures are expected to be arrested this month and in the new year.
The 25, reportedly mostly television and radio entertainers, are named in a list of tip-offs to Operation Yewtree - the police inquiry set up after late Top Of The Pops presenter Savile was exposed as a serial abuser.
In some cases victims will not be identified or press charges. But in at least a dozen cases, police are reported to believe there is enough evidence for the celebrities to be detained.
The 25 celebrities aforementioned are understood to have been named in phone calls to the police or to charities.
A very nervous Xmas for some celebrities, then ..... :idc:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20663293
A man in his 60s has been arrested on suspicion of sexual offences, the Metropolitan Police have said.
The man, from London, is being questioned at a south London police station following his arrest at 06.45 GMT.
Officers from Operation Yewtree - set up in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal - made the arrest.
:idc:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20686219
The strand of a police operation investigating abuse carried out by Jimmy Savile has been completed, with the number of victims now believed to be well over 500, the BBC understands.
Scotland Yard said Operation Yewtree, the inquiry into historic abuse, was collating its report and hoped to publish early in the New Year.
:pipe:
Irene Pearson
11-12-2012, 06:01 PM
My hope is that the real victims are not tarred with the same brush as the bounty hunters. Thanks Sticks for the quote. Very relevant.
Marcus.
11-12-2012, 06:03 PM
My hope is that the real victims are not tarred with the same brush as the bounty hunters. Thanks Sticks for the quote. Very relevant.
same here
My hope is that the real victims are not tarred with the same brush as the bounty hunters. Thanks Sticks for the quote. Very relevant.
Who are "the bounty hunters" ..... :conf:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/500-victims-200-allegations-full-shocking-scale-of-jimmy-saviles-alleged-sexual-abuse-to-be-revealed-8406448.html
More than 500 people have come forward as victims of the late DJ and television presenter Jimmy Savile, police said today.
Over 200 allegations of sexual assault have been recorded, Scotland Yard said, with a report into child sex crimes by Savile, who died in October last year at the age of 84, due to be published early in the New Year.
The report draws on the testimony of scores of victims and "will provide as clear a picture as possible" of Savile's offending, a force spokesman said.
Savile is now believed to have been one of the UK's most prolific abusers. It is alleged the TV star abused young people on BBC premises, in hospitals, care homes and at Broadmoor psychiatric hospital.
:eek:
Irene Pearson
12-12-2012, 01:41 PM
Who are "the bounty hunters" ..... :conf:
Oh come on Omah you are not that naïve surely
Oh come on Omah you are not that naïve surely
Unless you can name them you are hoist by your own petard since you are tarring victims with the same brush as your so-called "bounty hunters" - do you know which are which or are you just idly speculating and casting unsunstantiated aspersions ?
If you have any evidence of "bounty hunters" (whoever they may be) as opposed to victims you should report them to the police ..... :pipe:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20697738
Police have confirmed that the number of alleged sex abuse victims of Jimmy Savile has reached 450.
The Operation Yewtree team say 589 alleged victims have come forward during their investigation of offences committed by Savile and others.
Detectives say 82% of all alleged victims are female and eight out of 10 were children or young people
:idc:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/12/jimmy-savile-rapes-child-abuse
A senior police officer in charge of the Jimmy Savile investigation has warned of more arrests to come as he disclosed that the late BBC presenter had been accused of 31 rapes in 7 different areas of the country.
Revealing the scale of the investigation, Commander Peter Spindler said 450 individuals had made allegations against the former BBC celebrity, mostly of sexual assault. It is understood that 139 individuals made allegations against others including celebrities and people in positions of power.
Spindler said the scale of the investigation and the number of victims who had come forward had given officers the opportunity to provide as clear an overview as possible of Savile's activities over several decades. Operation Yewtree has recorded 199 crimes in 17 forces in which Savile is the suspect.
:eek:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-sex-abuse-scandal-1491904
A WORLD-famous pop star is being investigated over alleged sex offences after his name was passed to police working on the Jimmy Savile case.
The platinum-selling artist, a household name, is one of 25 figures facing probes under Operation Yewtree, which began after the Savile scandal broke earlier this year.
Police are also expected to arrest a film director in the next few weeks.
The name of the pop star was first handed to police in 2008 when a convicted sex offender claimed he was part of a paedophile ring with Savile.
The paedo was in Whitemoor Prison, Cambs, at the time and passed a list of other child sex offenders to his probation officer. It is understood the list was handed to police but there was not enough evidence for them to act.
Now his name has come up again, he is being “actively investigated”, according to sources close to the inquiry.
:idc:
Mrluvaluva
16-12-2012, 12:39 AM
It must be Cliff...
lily.
16-12-2012, 12:41 AM
Surely not.
Tom4784
16-12-2012, 12:42 AM
Ok I'm barely coping with how The Killing ended, it'll push me over the edge if Cliff turns out to be a peado.
Kizzy
16-12-2012, 12:48 AM
George.....
lily.
16-12-2012, 12:54 AM
George who?
Me. I Am Salman
16-12-2012, 12:56 AM
I've begun to lost interest in this now.
Mrluvaluva
16-12-2012, 01:03 AM
Surely not.
Depends which Cliff I am referring to....*disclaimer*
Kizzy
16-12-2012, 01:06 AM
George who?
Just pick one....
Sticks
16-12-2012, 06:18 AM
It's Santa Claus
Think about it, he has an unhealthy interest in children creeps into their bedrooms at night and tries to buy them off with toys.
We won't even mention the failure to file a flight plan with the CAA and various offences relating to the movement of annimals.
...LOL Sticks...
..how horrible for the people who it isn't to have themselves speculated about on the internet and such..that in itself must be awful...
joeysteele
16-12-2012, 09:51 AM
...LOL Sticks...
..how horrible for the people who it isn't to have themselves speculated about on the internet and such..that in itself must be awful...
Absolutely, I don't know what is worse, having it announced who has been arrested and who are then being interviewed or not saying who is arrested and a great many people thinking it could be someone totally unconnected to any of this.
Which in the high profile scandal this has become is exactly what will happen all the time until people are totally cleared of any unsavoury acts or even any substantiated involvement in the crimes being investigated.
joeysteele
16-12-2012, 09:53 AM
It's Santa Claus
Think about it, he has an unhealthy interest in children creeps into their bedrooms at night and tries to buy them off with toys.
We won't even mention the failure to file a flight plan with the CAA and various offences relating to the movement of annimals.
:joker: I was absolutely terrified of the thought of Santa Claus and even worse the idea he could see and hear everything I was doing or saying.
I couldn't sleep on Christmas Eve for all the wrong reasons.:joker:
Absolutely, I don't know what is worse, having it announced who has been arrested and who are then being interviewed or not saying who is arrested and a great many people thinking it could be someone totally unconnected to any of this.
Which in the high profile scandal this has become is exactly what will happen all the time until people are totally cleared of any unsavoury acts or even any substantiated involvement in the crimes being investigated.
..I just think it must be staggering to have your name possibly speculated about, if it wasn't you...what sort of a complex would that give you Joey..
joeysteele
16-12-2012, 09:56 AM
..I just think it must be staggering to have your name possibly speculated about, if it wasn't you...what sort of a complex would that give you Joey..
It must be devastating really and not only for them but also for their families too to read the speculation.
..yes Joey..it must be...'I must look like/act like a paedophile, what's wrong with me'......that would be really upsetting...
Kazanne
16-12-2012, 10:25 AM
It must be Cliff...
Why?
Kazanne
16-12-2012, 10:29 AM
Just pick one....
I immediately thought George Michael/Boy George,but surely we shouldn't really be speculating,none of us know yet,but it IS intriguing.and now I must stop it:hugesmile:
BBfanUSA
16-12-2012, 01:58 PM
Maybe It's Micheal Jackson back from the dead.
Mrluvaluva
16-12-2012, 03:16 PM
Why?
Just speculation from articles I have seen. It's not always the gay ones that spring to mind. Although...
I have read of ""a pop singer who masquerades under a Christian persona".
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jimmy-savile-inquiry-freddie-starr-and-max-clifford-rebailed-until-next-year-8422596.html
Comedian Freddie Starr and publicist Max Clifford have been rebailed to return on dates in February and March pending further inquiries.
Starr, 69, was arrested in Warwickshire on November 1 as part of Operation Yewtree, the investigation into allegations of sex abuse surrounding Savile and others.
He had been publicly implicated in the Savile scandal but strongly denied any accusations.
PR guru Clifford was arrested on December 6 at his Surrey home on suspicion of sexual offences.
He described the allegations as "damaging and totally untrue".
A Scotland Yard spokesman today said: "Two men arrested as part of Operation Yewtree have been rebailed to return pending further inquiries.
"A man in his 60s ('Yewtree 2'), who was arrested on November 1, has been rebailed to return on a date in March pending further inquiries.
"A second man in his 60s ('Yewtree 6'), who was arrested on December 6, has been rebailed to return on a date in February pending further inquiries."
Former pop star Gary Glitter and a man in his 70s, reported to be former television producer Wilfred De'Ath - also among those arrested as part of Operation Yewtree - were re-bailed by police last week.
Glitter, 68, whose real name is Paul Gadd, was the first person to be detained on October 28, and a man reported to be De'Ath, a former BBC employee who once produced a radio show presented by Savile, was arrested at his home in Cambridgeshire on November 11.
Both were re-bailed to return on dates in February 2013.
I don't suppose they'll enjoy Xmas much ..... :idc:
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/Jimmy-Savile-sex-abuse-investigation-reaches/story-17619531-detail/story.html
The police investigation into sexual abuse carried out by Jimmy Savile has reached Cornwall.
Devon and Cornwall Police confirmed it has received six allegations as part of Operation Yewtree and is working closely with officers involved in the investigation.
Devon and Cornwall Police said the incidents in the West country were currently being reviewed to see if further investigation was required.
Of the allegations reported, four are in Devon and one in Cornwall with one other request from another police force to visit a victim who lives in the area.
:idc:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20781149
Detectives investigating historical claims of sex abuse linked to TV presenter Jimmy Savile have arrested a man in his 70s in London.
The man was arrested at 06:30 GMT on Wednesday on suspicion of sexual offences by officers from Operation Yewtree.
He is now in custody in a south London police station.
The Metropolitan Police would not name the man or give details about the allegations.
Savile, who died last year aged 84, was a Radio 1 DJ and the presenter of the Jim'll Fix It show on BBC One. The police say 450 victims have alleged abuse by Savile alone.
The man arrested on Wednesday is the eighth person - seven of whom have been under arrest - interviewed by police since the inquiry began.
:idc:
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