Big Brother Canada: Live Episode Discussion Thread [SEASON FINISHED]

[LemonJam]

EVERYONE SAW EVERYTHlNG TOM

[LemonJam]

...did Emmett just give away one part of the HoH? LOL

[LemonJam]

And jillian lol

[Macie Lightfoot]

LMFAO this show is so bad x_x they had hours to edit it and they give away the first two parts of the HoH Comp

[Jack_]

I've heard it's actually live tonight, not taped. But you'd have thought they'd have told them not to mention the results before Arisa spoke to them

[Macie Lightfoot]

Just as live as the "live eviction specials" have been all season.

[LemonJam]

Alec proving how completely **** he is at the game once again.

[Jack_]

Yeah I know none of them were live but I'm pretty sure tonight's is. People on Jokers reported a few weeks back that production had said to some audience members that the final will be actually live and that people going tonight have said it's actually live too.

And omg please, please, please Gary win part 3 :love:

[Jack_]

OH MY ****ING GOD dskjghf

[Jack_]

Please take jill ffs

[Jack_]

do not take emmett, don't be dumb Gary

[LemonJam]

Woah

[Jack_]

**** YES

[Donovan.]

:dance::dance::dance:yay:dance::dance::dance:

[BBUKAUSFAN]

omgggg! so exciting

[Jack_]

I'm so happy :D :D :D :D

The only bad thing here is a Jillian win, I'd have been fine with Emmett but not Jill. I think she'll win though but Gary definitely has more chance here than against Emmett.

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's not actually live, which makes it even more hilarious that they still spoiled the first two parts of the final HoH with time to edit.

Also a Jillian win would be amazing <3 this is such a great final two.

[Liberty4eva]

It sucks how we already know Gary has the Jury votes to win.

[LemonJam]

Canadians sure like talking dogs

[Macie Lightfoot]

In regards to post 518

I'm wouldn't be too sure about that. Apparently someone accidentally casts their vote for the wrong person alolololol

[Jack_]

AJ and Talla are the swing votes I think.

Gary has Topaz and perhaps Peter and Alec by the looks of things, Jill has Andrew and Emmett.

I reckon 4-3 to Jill.

[Liberty4eva]

Jillian definitely deserves to win the game. But this is a bitter jury. I see Gary winning 5-2.

[JTM45]

I will be soooooo *****ing pissed off if the Jury hands the win to Gary!!!!!!
Jillian is still there because of how well she played the game and is still playing on her original life, unlike Gary!!!

Jillian clearly outplayed him in every way and it's out of pure spite if she doesn't win!

[Jack_]

Tory is that a spoiler of the winner?

[LemonJam]

AJ's question rofl <3

[JTM45]

Alec is sooooooo bitter!!!! Hate his life!

[LemonJam]

Peter calling anyone an idiot is hilarious.

[Liberty4eva]

Jillian's answer to Peter's question was atrocious. She's done. :(

[JTM45]

Jillian's answer to Peter's question was atrocious. She's done. :(

Her answer was nowhere near as bad as his bitter, spite-filled, hatefull exscuse for a question! He's a primo dick-face!!!:yuk:

Emmett's question to Gary was spot-on and the point he was making was irrefutable. One of the few classy questions asked by the Jury members!

Gary winning will be a terrible statement to end the first season of BB Canada and i so hope it doesn't happen!

[LemonJam]

pmsfl Arisa so real <3

[LemonJam]

I think AJ's the swing ah\

[Jack_]

I think Talla voted Jill now :(

I can't work out who or what AJ meant but Christ I hope he went for Gary <333

[Jack_]

omg I'm so nervous

[JTM45]

I'm gutted to say that i'm pretty sure Gary has won, undeservedly and for all the wrong reasons.

Peter's very existence is a massive cosmic error! Every time he opens his stupid mouth my whole being cringes and shudders with embarrassment for him, the male species, geeks everywhere, the BB Canada casting team that chose him, his poor parents and Canada for spawning him.

[Liberty4eva]

My prediction: Gary will win 6-1 (Emmett being the only dissent).

[JTM45]

My prediction: Gary will win 6-1 (Emmett being the only dissent).

I think he'll win but i will guarantee that it won't be a 6-1 vote!:thumbs:

[Bluerang1]

Yay I can watch the final now!!!

Even though I know who won, glad it's not who I didn't want to win.

[LemonJam]

Peter getting hit in the nads as a gif in my signature for eternity please.

[JTM45]

Is Peter really as disgustingly vile in every way as he appears to be to me or is my dislike of him out of control ?

[LemonJam]

oh my ****ing god roflmao

[Liberty4eva]

omg topaz omg topaz hahahaha

[Macie Lightfoot]

Lmfao yes this actually happened

[LemonJam]

This is such a fitting end to a complete cluster**** of a season

[Macie Lightfoot]

Such an appropriate ending for such a mess of a show <3

[Liberty4eva]

That would be so awesome if Jill pulls off a win. She only needs Andrew. Please Andrew vote for Jill. Please.

[Jack_]

TOPAZ WHAT THE ****ING ****

YOU STUPID WOMAN

They best let her revote. Obvs won't though

[Liberty4eva]

Crossing my fingers that Andrew voted for Jill. Please please please please vote for Jill.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm actually CACKLING right now this is not real life

[JTM45]

Wow!!!!!!!
I hope they make her stick to it. Like Arisa said, it was made very clear and it would be extremely unfair to go back on it now!

It would be an amazing twist of fate for the bitter haters if this goes ahead too!!!:hugesmile:

Got a feeling they're gonna' allow a re-vote though, sadly!

[Liberty4eva]

Holy ****!

[Bluerang1]

This. this isn't real

[JTM45]

AWESOMe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The way it happened was a commupance for the haters too!!!

[Jack_]

Unbelievable

Well at least we know Gary would've won had Topaz not been so ****ing stupid :D :D

[Liberty4eva]

The story of the season is how Topaz voted. Unbelievable! Unbeliebable. Unbelievable.

[Macie Lightfoot]

"150% secure" what a PERFECTLY ironic ending seriously.

[Jack_]

I'd have been more pissed had AJ voted Jill but at least cause he didn't we know Gary really won, that's alright really :amazed:

[JTM45]

I love it, love it LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:dance::dance::dance:

Topaz' continuing stupidity not only made her look like the biggest fool of the season during the show but it lost her beloved Gary $80,000!!!!

What a poke in the eye for the spiteful jury haters! I bet they're SEETHING!!!:joker:

[Donovan.]

:joker: I thought Gary winning would be a perfect wtf ending, but holy **** was this ten times better and more wtf.

[Liberty4eva]

Gary took it well. It took some wacky f'ed up twist to get him back in the game and it took some crazy f'ed up freak accident for him to lose it. It's perfect.

[JTM45]

"150% secure" what a PERFECTLY ironic ending seriously.

I'd forgotten about that cherry! Classic stuff. :dance:

People can say "Gary won really though...." all they like but Jillian had the most votes and the $100,000 and the car and the other stuff so in my book that means Jillian is the WINNER!!! Gloat, gloat......GLOAT!!!!! :elephant:

[Bluerang1]

I mean Jillian deserved to win over Gary, and Emmett.

[Jack_]

I'd forgotten about that cherry! Classic stuff. :dance:

People can say "Gary won really though...." all they like but Jillian had the most votes and the $100,000 and the car and the other stuff so in my book that means Jillian is the WINNER!!! Gloat, gloat......GLOAT!!!!! :elephant:

Only cause Topaz misunderstood and cast her vote wrong, it's not a case of 'they can say that all they like' we know how she meant to vote and that's a fact...Gary won. If AJ had voted Jill I'd say fair play and well done but he didn't, his vote meant Gary really won it, there's no getting around the reality of Topaz's intentions.

[Liberty4eva]

THE MOST MEMERABLE MOMENT OF THE SEASON HAPPENED WITH JUST A FEW MINUTES LEFT. This is a monster blunder and Jillian only won because of a technicality.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Topaz didn't misunderstand this she's just an idiot

[LemonJam]

IMO, Jillian deserved it way more anyway so w/e :idc:

[JTM45]

I bet the Facebook and Twitter Gary fans are in total meltdown!!!

That has to be hands-down the most bizzare ending to any BB finale, anywhere in the World ever!!!

I'm so pleased that Jillian was handed the win by one of her haters and that Gary (who didn't deserve to win anyway!) was denied it by his 'best friend'.:thumbs:

Retribution and Karma don't come with any better timing than tonight's events! :joker:

IMO, Jillian deserved it way more anyway so w/e :idc: Pre-cisely! :thumbs:

[Jack_]

To Jillian's credit at least her reaction was tame and she looked a little embarrassed in the way that she'd won, she knows she didn't really. A nice girl even if she's not the most exciting.

[LemonJam]

I've been laughing for like half an hour I'm in pain someone call for help

[Macie Lightfoot]

Also to Jillian's credit, she's being such a greedy ho in interviews and citing that rules are rules so therefore she won :joker: she's such a hilarious **** I love this ending so much

[Donovan.]

To be fair to Topaz, those keys are a hideous neon green with white letters. Probably not the easiest thing to read... and I'm so glad for it.

[jyunga]

Jillian is right. The rules are the rules. How else is she supposed to react? Gary didn't do much in the house, he would have won because the producers let Canada put their favourite juror back in. Meaning someone would have been robbed of the win cause of a twist. Instead Topaz stupidly voided the twist and we got a more deserving winner.

I liked Gary... but if I wanted him to win it's cause he was my favourite, not cause he played hard and deserved it from a gameplay perspective. The jury was pretty bitter imo.

[JTM45]

Also to Jillian's credit, she's being such a greedy ho in interviews and citing that rules are rules so therefore she won :joker: she's such a hilarious **** I love this ending so much

Are these interviews available to watch online anywhere ? If so can you please direct me to them. I wish to join her in her well deserved gloating.:thumbs:

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's just in this article

http://www.brandonsun.com/entertainment/breaking-news/controversy-swirls-over-jillians-win-on-the-first-ever-big-brother-canada-205905841.html?thx=y

"I know the production has been very strict on rules this season, I know that it's set myself and (fellow houseguest) Emmett (Blois) back in the game a fair bit, just by them being: 'Nope, rules are rules.' So rules are rules. Gary deserved this just as much as me, he played a great game but at the end of the day, the rules are rules and I ended up winning."

[JTM45]

Thanks for the link man!
My favourite bit was;

pot-stirrer Peter Brown denounced the outcome with his trademark bluster.

Even the press have him figured out! :hugesmile:

Tonight's cock-up was probably the best viewing of the whole Season for me!:hugesmile:
I just watched it back especially to see Topaz being oh so smug when she was casting her vote with her "150% secure..." comment. If she'd concentrated more on the actual voting and less on trying to be a smug prick then maybe Gary would have won!

I couldn't have possibly imagined a scenario where things went as massively tits-up as they did yet still worked out so fantastically for Jillian!
It's instances like this that reaffirm the reasons i have such strong beliefs in the power of Karma.

I bet every single one of them would have been ecstatic if the same thing had happened in their favour. At least it happened to Jillian who was the real deserving winner anyway (imo).

Being bitter and spiteful can and often does backfire on you! Just ask Topaz!!! :joker:

[Bluerang1]

Jillian deserved to win and all but they should have let Topaz change her vote. I don't see what difference locking in as opposed to saying out loud, or writing, a vote would make.

[JTM45]

I think it's just a case of when there's 100 grand at stake and they've set the rules out so clearly they are legally bound to stick by it. Otherwise someone could have second thoughts after voting and then claim they meant to vote differently etc. which could land them in all sorts of legal trouble.

When they returned after the impromptu commercial break and announced that they had to hold Topaz to her original vote it was the only time in the whole season i 'wooted' out loud (several times!!!) with sheer joy and amusement. :hugesmile:

[BBUKAUSFAN]

-_- just watched the ending, ugh stupid topaz.....

in my eyes Gary is the true winner and i think he did deserve it more.

[Liberty4eva]

So Canada now has their own version of Marcellous (BB3)

[JTM45]

I bet there was some major squirming going on at the BB Canada studios last night. I hope someone uploads the BB winner's interview thingy they have on the following morning's breakfast show or whatever.
Does anyone know which show that's on or if those kind of interviews get uploaded anywhere ?

[SoBig]

Topaz is such a ********** moron. Perfect ending for a rigged season. Won't be watching this trash again.

[Black Dagger]

Jillian winning :bored:

So close Gary :sad:

[Black Dagger]

OMFG, Topaz' vote :joker:

Oh dear.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Lmfao, what the **** happened.

Jillian deserved to win, I liked Gary more as a housemate but he was evicted and Jillian was a comp queen and played a good game.

[mkbb]

Jillian deserved to win and all but they should have let Topaz change her vote. I don't see what difference locking in as opposed to saying out loud, or writing, a vote would make.

Because they cast vote when they have seen nothing other then what they have witnessed inthejury house. At that point she had already seen all the clips of the series which could have influenced her vote. You can't vote after the sequester of jury has ended. Thats the rules. If she had realised just after voting then I would agree with you but by the time she had realised it was way too late to change.

[mkbb]

I'd have been more pissed had AJ voted Jill but at least cause he didn't we know Gary really won, that's alright really :amazed:

I understand what your saying but Gary didnt really win though. What defines the winner is how many keys thay have in their box at the end not who the person 'intended' to vote for. Topaz voted for Jillian to win Big Brother Canada. Jillian had 4, Gary had 3 therefore Jillian is the real winner.

[BBUKAUSFAN]

im sad now im gonna miss BBCAN i actual grew to love this style of big brother. i was sketchy at first but now its like <333

[starry]

Well at least there were a couple of twists at the end.

First Gary winning the last competition. Really didn't want him to win, but at least somebody finally made a move against Emmitt. Unfortunately we later had to hear the Gary sob story. I really wish Talla had got to the end rather than him, she was much more naturally funny.

Then the whole controversy at the end was a nice surprise. Peter obviously bitter, how was it justice that Gary should win? Andrew though voted better, still think he was one of the better HGs.

The camerawork wasn't great. When the votes and comments were made, and during the whole controversy at the end we should have seen the reactions of the final two to everything. We didn't and that annoyed me. And of course the moment when the winner is announced the focus is meant to be on the final 2 in the house.

Also inevitably in this format so much of this is scripted. The jury house discussion sounded like they had planted questions, and then when they spoke to the camera and voted it looked all rehearsed. Big Brother is better when things are more off the cuff and that links to the live aspect which should be the cornerstone of it. That's what made the Topaz controversy refreshing, it looked like it wasn't scripted. The host handled it alright too.

It looked like Topaz just picked it up and put it straight it without really looking, maybe the excitement got to her.

[SoBig]

im sad now im gonna miss BBCAN i actual grew to love this style of big brother. i was sketchy at first but now its like <333
You'll love BBUS then. Its a 100 times better than BB Canada.

[JTM45]

Yeah, i got sick to the back teeth of Gary's "oh poor me, boo-hoo sniffle" hard luck story!!!
Telling people your story in the house is one thing but pulling it out like a party trick complete with fake crying to try and gain sympathy votes is really insulting and offensive to other people who've been through the same thing and often far worse!
One minute he's saying how proud he is to be gay and super-confident and who he is and the next he's acting like he's the only gay guy in Canada and the only person who's ever had a hard time in school. There's plenty of kids who aren't gay who get bullied just as bad for a multitude of reasons! Look at the sh*t that fat kids have had to put up with since forever!!!

I'd have liked to have seen more close-ups of the jury member's faces and reactions when the whole Toe-**** incident went down. Would have been priceless i bet!
The only people's reactions i could see from a distance were Emmett, Talla and Andrew's which were hysterical, especially when they returned after the emergency break and Arissa played the evidential Topaz voting footage and stated that her vote would stand as was! .:hugesmile:
Emmett was punching the air with joy, Talla was bouncing up and down on her seat like an excited......uhhh..Talla and Andrew was unable to contain his laughter!!! Loved it to bits! :joker:

When i re-watched it it occurred to me that i 'think' Topaz and co (aka. the bitter spite loser crew) were thinking that they were holding her to her actual vote because it didn't effect the overall outcome because Gary still had the votes to win (i think they maybe thought that Andrew had also voted for Gary) because they looked shocked again when Andrew's deciding vote was announced.

I loved the whole episode even more the second time because i couldn't help chuckling to myself when the bitter spite loser crew were being so smug and hating on Jillian while i knew what was about to happen! :hugesmile:
Probably the quickest and most satisfying example of Karmic Retribution i've ever witnessed!!! A true classic that you couldn't have written any better! :thumbs: :dance:

[Marc]

Oh my god... Is all I have to say.

What a massive ******* up. Topaz you're an idiot :bored: Gary did all that hard work just for her to mess it up

[Munchkins]

LOL C'mon guys it would have been a mockery of the show if Gary won, it would be a piss take
he was evicted, brought back at final 5 (what a joke) the limit should be being brought back at the beginning of Jury, this meant he got to have chats with the jury/become friends/see where their heads were at/release confidential things about the others etc
So glad Jillian won! and Emmett was evicted
for the first time, a woman has beat the guy in f2
and it was so justice to see bitter alec and peter, lose AGAIN, they are pathetic, and got played

I've enjoyed the series, and live feeds, now roll on big brother us

[JTM45]

You're observations are spot-on Munchkins! :thumbs:

[Marc]

Tbh it's fair to not just assume but guarantee that Topaz was always going to vote Gary no matter what.. but rules are rules! Jillian did win but she didn't actually win the jury majority which does make Gary the unofficial winner :tongue:

I loved that Gary won final HoH and got rid of Emmett.. I was so thrilled and then I thought okay he deserves this win now, even if it was unfair that he came back. But in the past people have been bought back and not won because it makes their chances of winning even smaller so he did do well, granted it was F5 and not like F10 like in BBUS6 (Kaysar) or F8 in BBUS3 (Amy).

[Headie]

I understand what your saying but Gary didnt really win though. What defines the winner is how many keys thay have in their box at the end not who the person 'intended' to vote for. Topaz voted for Jillian to win Big Brother Canada. Jillian had 4, Gary had 3 therefore Jillian is the real winner.

If the jury members had to go to a seperate soundproof room and say their votes out loud then Gary would've won, but no, the producers decide to put a light white font on a transparent green card and make the crowd be silent whilst the jury members choose their vote and try and hide it from the crowd. I'm not saying that it was unfair, because at the end of the day it was all Topaz's fault, but if the Jury members had to write down their winner or say it out loud, then Gary would've won. So really, Gary was the winner because he was more popular with the jury members, but Jillian ended up being the real winner.

[Marc]

I can't wait to see how they will orchestrate the finale next season :laugh:

Probably like Survivor and have them write their winner on a piece of paper.

[Headie]

Yeah, i got sick to the back teeth of Gary's "oh poor me, boo-hoo sniffle" hard luck story!!!
Telling people your story in the house is one thing but pulling it out like a party trick complete with fake crying to try and gain sympathy votes is really insulting and offensive to other people who've been through the same thing and often far worse!
One minute he's saying how proud he is to be gay and super-confident and who he is and the next he's acting like he's the only gay guy in Canada and the only person who's ever had a hard time in school. There's plenty of kids who aren't gay who get bullied just as bad for a multitude of reasons! Look at the sh*t that fat kids have had to put up with since forever!!!

I'd have liked to have seen more close-ups of the jury member's faces and reactions when the whole Toe-**** incident went down. Would have been priceless i bet!
The only people's reactions i could see from a distance were Emmett, Talla and Andrew's which were hysterical, especially when they returned after the emergency break and Arissa played the evidential Topaz voting footage and stated that her vote would stand as was! .:hugesmile:
Emmett was punching the air with joy, Talla was bouncing up and down on her seat like an excited......uhhh..Talla and Andrew was unable to contain his laughter!!! Loved it to bits! :joker:

When i re-watched it it occurred to me that i 'think' Topaz and co (aka. the bitter spite loser crew) were thinking that they were holding her to her actual vote because it didn't effect the overall outcome because Gary still had the votes to win (i think they maybe thought that Andrew had also voted for Gary) because they looked shocked again when Andrew's deciding vote was announced.

I loved the whole episode even more the second time because i couldn't help chuckling to myself when the bitter spite loser crew were being so smug and hating on Jillian while i knew what was about to happen! :hugesmile:
Probably the quickest and most satisfying example of Karmic Retribution i've ever witnessed!!! A true classic that you couldn't have written any better! :thumbs: :dance:

The former is a bit uncalled for. And how did the video footage prove anything? We couldn't see anything, for all we know that card could've had anyones name on it and we would've never even known. But rules are rules, and I do solely blame it on Topaz for Gary's loss, but it will increase her and Gary's chances of coming back for an All Star season.

Also, I've yet to see one of your "positive posts" your promised me. It's just been negative or hateful posts for the last few weeks. :nono:

[Marc]

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He's such a good person, taking it with a pinch of salt and remaining positive about it.

[Marc]

:joker: Toe-****

[JTM45]

:joker: Toe-****

That one started out as a typing mistake but i decided it was rather fitting so i stuck with it! :thumbs:

Yeah, i did feel for poor Gary. He didn't deserve to have such an idiotic friend who couldn't differentiate between 'GARY' and 'JILLIAN'.:hugesmile:

None of last night's drama was down to him. It was all down to the bitter spite loser crew and their obsession with hating on Jillian for beating them. If Topaz hadn't been 150% wrapped up in being smug she probably would have been able to vote correctly! :nono:

[Marc]

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The flip side, she's gracious in winning.

Why she shout so much :bawling:

[Marc]

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Arissa

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The opening line :joker:

[JTM45]

Thanks for upping the interviews Marc!:thumbs:

I just watched Jillian's and she was very gracious in her victory. Love her! Such a deserving winner and the fact that her winning vote came from a spiteful hater just made it that bit more satisfying! :hugesmile:

Talking about spiteful haters, i'm going to view the Topaz video now and hopefully laugh a lot. :dance:

Woww!!! I can't believe how completely oblivious Topaz seems to be to the fact that she just cost Gary 80 grand, $80,000, 80K!!!!

[Jack_]

^ do you ever shut the **** up about 'spiteful haters', 'bitter people' and other really OTT, tiresome insults about the houseguests? How much anger do you have built up inside you, seriously?

[JTM45]

^ do you ever shut the **** up about 'spiteful haters', 'bitter people' and other really OTT, tiresome insults about the houseguests? How much anger do you have built up inside you, seriously?

Wow!!! That's bang out of order!................:hugesmile:
I just call 'em as i see 'em! I'm not an angry person at all. I just have a dislike for ugly characters like Peter and Alec.
Did you not think Peter and Alec came across as spiteful, bitter losers ?

At the end of the day it's no different to you saying how great and glittery Gary is in every other post you make but i don't comment on that. It's your opinion and it's your right to say it every five minutes and i'd never dream of telling you what you can or can't say so please offer me the same respect.:thumbs:

[Headie]

Wow!!! That's bang out of order!................:hugesmile:
I just call 'em as i see 'em! I'm not an angry person at all. I just have a dislike for ugly characters like Peter and Alec.
Did you not think Peter and Alec came across as spiteful, bitter losers ?

At the end of the day it's no different to you saying how great and glittery Gary is in every other post you make but i don't comment on that. It's your opinion and it's your right to say it every five minutes and i'd never dream of telling you what you can or can't say so please offer me the same respect.:thumbs:

I haven't seen one positive post from you since I joined this site a few months back. Even when you were complimenting Jillian on how gracious she was in the interview, you had to go and ruin it by insulting Topaz and calling her spiteful names. Maybe if you have something nice to say then just let it all out, no need for so much negativity directed towards other people when they haven't done anything at all to provoke you. :nono:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I mean he's not wrong about Peter and Alec. For such "masterminds" who "respect the game so much" they're the most bitter and can't handle that they got beat by a girl. The double standards are always ridiculous when a girl tries to play as cutthroat as guys traditionally have in the past.

[JTM45]

I haven't seen one positive post from you since I joined this site a few months back. Even when you were complimenting Jillian on how gracious she was in the interview, you had to go and ruin it by insulting Topaz and calling her spiteful names. Maybe if you have something nice to say then just let it all out, no need for so much negativity directed towards other people when they haven't done anything at all to provoke you. :nono:

Oh please forgive me for having an acerbic sense of humour...........please, please Sir! :joker:

Wouldn't it be a fu**ing boring forum if we all just praised people and swooned about them even if they didn't deserve it!
I'm never abusive or rude to forum members (even though it's tempting sometimes, like now! :hugesmile:) and i speak my mind about the people on the TV shows we all watch, be it negative or positive.
This is a 'Forum' after all and if my sense of humour offends you or differs from your own then you are completely welcome to ignore me! Heck, i wouldn't even notice the difference. Just a little less whinging to read.:shrug:

Some people live far too sheltered lives! :pat::xyxwave::hugesmile:

And thank you Troy! You are a true gentleman.:thumbs:
You and i often disagree on things here and sometimes even share a viewpoint but it doesn't prevent us from interacting with and being sociable to each other on this forum. That's how it should be and thankfully mostly is!:dance:

[lostalex]

Wow, Alison Grodner has come up with some shady f*ed up crap on BBUSA, but this finale makes Grodner look like an Amateur . WTF just happened. This is so F*ed up i cannot even breathe right now.

I am ****ing LIVID. This is so f*ed up in every possible sense.

[reece(:]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJWNkGUCUAEmUQu.jpg

[lostalex]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJWNkGUCUAEmUQu.jpg

like a mother bear and her cubs. so cute.

[mkbb]

When has someone voting for the wrong player in the finale happened again in big brother history like Arisa said in that interview?

[Liberty4eva]

Wow, Alison Grodner has come up with some shady f*ed up crap on BBUSA, but this finale makes Grodner look like an Amateur . WTF just happened. This is so F*ed up i cannot even breathe right now.

I am ****ing LIVID. This is so f*ed up in every possible sense.

Jillian deserved to win. And Jillian did win. Rules are rules.

[reece(:]

When has someone voting for the wrong player in the finale happened again in big brother history like Arisa said in that interview?
All I can remember is Adam changing his vote to Porsche to "stir it up" and I don't even think there was proper "change" of vote there either..

[Liberty4eva]

When has someone voting for the wrong player in the finale happened again in big brother history like Arisa said in that interview?

It's never happened. Never. There definitely are jurors who voted and then regretted voting the way they did later but there has never been a juror who picked the wrong key while voting.

[lostalex]

Jillian deserved to win. And Jillian did win. Rules are rules.

um, how did she deserve to win if she only won because of a MISTAKE?? that's the exact OPPOSITE of deserving to win.

It's basically the same as George W Bush Winning the 2000 election because of the hanging chads.

[mkbb]

It's never happened. Never. There definitely are jurors who voted and then regretted voting the way they did later but there has never been a juror who picked the wrong key while voting.

Thats what I thought what is Arisa talking about then?

[Liberty4eva]

Thats what I thought what is Arisa talking about then?

I have no idea what she's talking about because this has NEVER happened.

[lostalex]

This is basically like the so-called "hand of God" by Maradona in Soccer 1986.

[Liberty4eva]

um, how did she deserve to win if she only won because of a MISTAKE?? that's the exact OPPOSITE of deserving to win.

It's basically the same as George W Bush Winning the 2000 election because of the hanging chads.

If you are a member of the jury, you have waited sometimes weeks to do one thing and only one thing: pick one of two keys to put into a slot and smile and say something to the camera as you're doing it. She should have double-checked her vote before putting it in.

[mkbb]

All I can remember is Adam changing his vote to Porsche to "stir it up" and I don't even think there was proper "change" of vote there either..

Haha Adam wanting a newbie to win despite the fact he hadnt helped a single newbie out through out the entire game. What an idiot.

[lostalex]

Topaz said in that interview that she is half blind. And those keys were ridiculous looking, you could barely read what was written on them even if you had 20/20 vision.

No sane person could believe for 1 second that she intentionally voted for Jillian. I think this is a case of black voter supression. Why is it the only black person on the jury had problems with her voting??

[reece(:]

Haha Adam wanting a newbie to win despite the fact he hadnt helped a single newbie out through out the entire game. What an idiot.
I won't even begin to start on my intense dislike for him and his uselessness.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Topaz said in that interview that she is half blind. And those keys were ridiculous looking, you could barely read what was written on them even if you had 20/20 vision.

No sane person could believe for 1 second that she intentionally voted for Jillian. I think this is a case of black voter supression. Why is it the only black person on the jury had problems with her voting??

This is absolutely the most hilarious post on the forum. HALF BLIND and BLACK VOTER SUPPRESSION I'm in stitches right now

[Marc]

She had one thing to do and she cocked it up :joker:

[Marc]

Jill would've lost to either guy, her winning is so strange

[SoBig]

I don't think Jillian was a good player. Emmet ran her HOH's and she lied and made promises when she had no reason to. She never really had a strategy outside of winning comps. Not a good player in my book.

Gary was voted out and brought back in at the final 5! Plus he knew exactly how the jury would vote! He had a huge advantage that no other player had. He didn't deserve to win because of that.

[Marc]

Imagine if Talla was F2 :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't think Jillian was a good player. Emmet ran her HOH's and she lied and made promises when she had no reason to. She never really had a strategy outside of winning comps. Not a good player in my book.

Well this is the same book that thinks Russell Hantz and Dan Gheesling are some of the best ever so I don't even know what it's worth.

[lostalex]

Well this is the same book that thinks Russell Hantz and Dan Gheesling are some of the best ever so I don't even know what it's worth.

well Russell Hantz and Dan Geisling are better than 99% of the so-called "legends" in yur sig. so who are you to talk?

[Macie Lightfoot]

That comparison doesn't even make sense so I'll just laugh and disregard you as usual.

[Headie]

Oh please forgive me for having an acerbic sense of humour...........please, please Sir! :joker:

Wouldn't it be a fu**ing boring forum if we all just praised people and swooned about them even if they didn't deserve it!
I'm never abusive or rude to forum members (even though it's tempting sometimes, like now! :hugesmile:) and i speak my mind about the people on the TV shows we all watch, be it negative or positive.
This is a 'Forum' after all and if my sense of humour offends you or differs from your own then you are completely welcome to ignore me! Heck, i wouldn't even notice the difference. Just a little less whinging to read.:shrug:

Some people live far too sheltered lives! :pat::xyxwave::hugesmile:

And thank you Troy! You are a true gentleman.:thumbs:
You and i often disagree on things here and sometimes even share a viewpoint but it doesn't prevent us from interacting with and being sociable to each other on this forum. That's how it should be and thankfully mostly is!:dance:

I don't care that you have negative opinions. After all, this is a discussion forum. But it's the fact that when I last confronted you about this you claimed that you posted plenty of positive posts, yet I haven't seen one from you yet. I wouldn't care if you posted negative comments, but it would be nice if you balanced them out with your positive opinions, because all we ever hear from you is something negative.

[lostalex]

That comparison doesn't even make sense so I'll just laugh and disregard you as usual.

Ignore what you don't like? yup, that is what you normally do. At least you are very self-aware.

[Macie Lightfoot]

No, I'm ignoring the fact that you're trying to compare my assessment of Russell Hantz and Dan Gheesling as strategical players in a strategical game to the people in my signature in a popularity game.

[SoBig]

^ do you ever shut the **** up about 'spiteful haters', 'bitter people' and other really OTT, tiresome insults about the houseguests? How much anger do you have built up inside you, seriously?
I don't get it either. JTM45 always tries to paint someone she doesn't like as the worst person on the face of the earth. Its definitely odd behavior.

[SoBig]

Well this is the same book that thinks Russell Hantz and Dan Gheesling are some of the best ever so I don't even know what it's worth.
Who do you think are the best players again? That's right you don't even rank players. You just criticize other people's opinions.

[SoBig]

um, how did she deserve to win if she only won because of a MISTAKE?? that's the exact OPPOSITE of deserving to win.

It's basically the same as George W Bush Winning the 2000 election because of the hanging chads.
Yeah, I agree. Jillian only won because of an error made by one of the jurors. Her win will always have a "*" next to it.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Who do you think are the best players again? That's right you don't even rank players. You just criticize other people's opinions.

I don't rank the players but I still judge them based on their gameplay. Russell's game was ATROCIOUS and Dan's game was far from the best ever (6-1 loss lol) so yeah if you use them as your benchmarks for great players then how is anyone expected to take you seriously?

[reece(:]

The 6-1 was not his gameplay's actions - this is like using the same bag of tricks for every reply. The houseguests already said they would not vote for a returning player, no matter what.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Even if he wasn't a returning player, you can't play like that and win. Just about every Juror was LIVID at him as they were evicted of course they wouldn't vote for him to win. He played a pretty good game for second place but that's it.

[SoBig]

The 6-1 was not his gameplay's actions - this is like using the same bag of tricks for every reply. The houseguests already said they would not vote for a returning player, no matter what.

After the show Dr.Will, Mike Boogie, Jordan, Rachel, Janelle, Rob Cesteriono etc. all said Dan should have won.

Matt Hoffman, Danielle Reyes, James Rhine, Britney Haynes etc. all said Dan is the best ever.

But nah we should ignore them and listen to troy. :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

lol @ like, at least half of those people having any sort of credibility. I suppose next you'll cite Evel Dick right?

[JTM45]

I don't get it either. JTM45 always tries to paint someone she doesn't like as the worst person on the face of the earth. Its definitely odd behavior.

You've obviously been watching too much Gary! Calling male forum members 'she' is a clear sign.
It's all cool though Girlfriend. I'm a broadminded guy and i think it's great that you're owning it. :thumbs:

[SoBig]

lol @ like, at least half of those people having any sort of credibility. I suppose next you'll cite Evel Dick right?
Danielle Reyes and Dr. Will have no credibility? :joker::joker::joker:

You've obviously been watching too much Gary! Calling male forum members 'she' is a clear sign.
It's all cool though Girlfriend. I'm a broadminded guy and i think it's great that you're owning it. :thumbs:
What? Your post scream "teenage girl".

[SoBig]

Even if he wasn't a returning player, you can't play like that and win. Just about every Juror was LIVID at him as they were evicted of course they wouldn't vote for him to win. He played a pretty good game for second place but that's it.
Not true.

Boston Rob, Kim and Dan all won by playing cut throat.

Dan doesn't make it anywhere near the end in BB14 if he didn't play the way he did. You know this.

[lostalex]

Evel Dick has plenty of Credibilty. He's one of the biggest fans/students of the game not to mention WINNER.

[lostalex]

I so would love to see Troy on BBUSA. you would be EATEN ALIVE.

[lostalex]

You've obviously been watching too much Gary! Calling male forum members 'she' is a clear sign.
It's all cool though Girlfriend. I'm a broadminded guy and i think it's great that you're owning it. :thumbs:

....not sure if he's being homophobic or just an asshat...
http://i.imgflip.com/1bgw.jpg

[SoBig]

I so would love to see Troy on BBUSA. you would be EATEN ALIVE.

:joker:

....not sure if he's being homophobic or just an asshat...
http://i.imgflip.com/1bgw.jpg
It definitely came off anti-gay.

[SoBig]

Evel Dick has plenty of Credibilty. He's one of the biggest fans/students of the game not to mention WINNER.
I don't think he is a good analysis. He isn't objective. His personal feelings always gets in the way.

He won one of the most rigged BB seasons ever. Overrated as a player.

[reece(:]

Evel Dick Donato ‏@EvelDick 16h
Topaz is a dental assistant? She'll probly be fired 4 always pulling out the wrong tooth, then arguing with the patient that it was switched

I did lol.

[lostalex]

I don't think he is a good analysis. He isn't objective. His personal feelings always gets in the way.

He won one of the most rigged BB seasons ever. Overrated as a player.

can you name a season in the modern era of BB that wasn't "rigged" though?

basically every game since BB3 has been called "rigged" because of the twists. And BB can get away with anything because of the whole "expect the unexpected" mantra.

I mean people even called BB1 "rigged" because eddie had a disability. People said the same thing about pete winning BBUK7. Or Nadia winning BBUK5. "BB played up their disability for the sympathy votes, it's rigged!"

[Macie Lightfoot]

Not true.

Boston Rob, Kim and Dan all won by playing cut throat.

Dan doesn't make it anywhere near the end in BB14 if he didn't play the way he did. You know this.

There's a difference between playing cutthroat and leaving every single Juror livid at your existence. And just because one strategy works with one group of people doesn't mean it'll work with the other. Not that Kim pissed off the entire cast to the extent Dan did, but whatever.

Evel Dick has plenty of Credibilty. He's one of the biggest fans/students of the game not to mention WINNER.

lolololol right, let's ignore all the help he got along the way from Grodner.

I so would love to see Troy on BBUSA. you would be EATEN ALIVE.

Yes, logically because I acknowledge that Russell Hantz sucks at Survivor and Dan's game in BB14 was nowhere near greatest of all time, I would get eaten alive on BBUSA. Great reasoning.

[SoBig]

can you name a season in the modern era of BB that wasn't "rigged" though?

basically every game since BB3 has been called "rigged" because of the twists. And BB can get away with anything because of the whole "expect the unexpected" mantra.

I mean people even called BB1 "rigged" because eddie had a disability. People said the same thing about pete winning BBUK7. Or Nadia winning BBUK5
BB 5, BB6, BB7, BB10 and BB12.

[Brekkie]

AWESOMe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The way it happened was a commupance for the haters too!!!
It was very satisfying wasn't it. Generally speaking the jurors in BBUSA have respected gameplay and left personal vengence aside, but this lot just couldn't see past it when it came to Jillian.

If the jury members had to go to a seperate soundproof room and say their votes out loud then Gary would've won, but no, the producers decide to put a light white font on a transparent green card and make the crowd be silent whilst the jury members choose their vote and try and hide it from the crowd. I'm not saying that it was unfair, because at the end of the day it was all Topaz's fault, but if the Jury members had to write down their winner or say it out loud, then Gary would've won. So really, Gary was the winner because he was more popular with the jury members, but Jillian ended up being the real winner.
I object to any format that involves Peter opening his mouth.

Since BB2 BBUSA have always used selecting from two keys for the jury to decide the winner, and nearly 100 have managed to do it without a problem, and most of them live over recent years too. It's a simple process and six others managed it without issue this week, plus don't forget the HGs are familiar with the "keys" from the nomination process too.

Topaz aside though and I was surprised Alec and Peter didn't show more respect for Jillian's game play, even if she was instrumental in their downfall. Don't really understand why AJ voted for Gary too - wonder if their week in jury together was the deciding factor.

[Macie Lightfoot]

BB 5, BB6, BB7, BB10 and BB13.

:joker::joker::joker: @ BB13 not being rigged

[SoBig]

:joker::joker::joker: @ BB13 not being rigged
lol I meant 12. The season Hayden won. BB13 is the second most rigged season after 8.

[lostalex]

BB 5, BB6, BB7, BB10 and BB12.

you could argue that all of those season's were rigged too. BB5 it was rigged against the twins because they had to fool the other houseguests, BB6 was rigged because Kaysar got to come back. BB7 was rigged because Will and Boogie were best friends for years and the producers allotted so much diary room time to them.

BB10 was pretty fair though.

[reece(:]

BB10 was pretty fair though.

Except Dan getting to take a jury member to an island and mist them... every season can be classed as "rigged" but I'd only count seasons as being rigged if they changed the outcome of the game through interference (not BB10), like BB13 by bringing back the Dynamic Duos. I wouldn't say public involvement (such as voting a Houseguest back in) is riggage either.

[Donovan.]

After the show Dr.Will, Mike Boogie, Jordan, Rachel, Janelle, Rob Cesteriono etc. all said Dan should have won.

Matt Hoffman, Danielle Reyes, James Rhine, Britney Haynes etc. all said Dan is the best ever.

But nah we should ignore them and listen to troy. :joker:

Ian's family and friends all said that Ian should have won. Fact.

Name dropping is a bad habit, but I will name drop the **** out of this forum to defend the BB jury system.:joker:

Plus none of those people, bar Janelle and Boogie, we're in the house. And none of them, bar Britney were on the jury, how do they know how they would've voted. They didn't have to go through being evicted and living with Dan or Ian. They would all like to think that they would vote for Dan in that situation, bu they don't really know.

[starry]

American format reality shows always take a large part of the live part out of them so they all have the potential to be fixed. You always feel at least some of the stuff you hear is scripted.

[Jack_]

Here's the Morning Show edition with the entire cast and Arisa from the morning after the final:

http://www.divxstage.eu/video/3601f37d8a602

Nice to see them all together actually :love: and bloody hell Emmett's bitter (disappointing really)...get over it, you were too dumb to get rid of Gary at final 4 so it's your problem.

Also...tonight is the reunion show with the cast too. Think it's on at 2am :D will post a link later if I stay up

[Patrick]

OMG. :amazed:

[Marc]

Is there a reunion tonight or is the thread title old?

[Jack_]

Actually, here's a YouTube video for the Morning Show interview with the cast and Arisa. Better than watching it on that website:

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Is there a reunion tonight or is the thread title old?

Also...tonight is the reunion show with the cast too. Think it's on at 2am :D will post a link later if I stay up

Tonight, think it's on at 7:30 in Canada so will actually be 00:30 here...that's if anyone streams it.

[Jack_]

I really like how the studio for that show is actually on a street with a glass wall...much better than those fake backdrops on This Morning and sh*t

[Brekkie]

That is pretty much standard for most breakfast/morning shows in Canada, the US and Australia. The UK tend to prefer high rise views - and for the record, the This Morning backdrop is 100% real.

[Jack_]

^ really? I always thought it looked blurry and fake

Well there's definitely some morning show in the UK that did or does use a fake backdrop, but regardless I really like the idea of it being on a street.

[Patrick]

I really like how the studio for that show is actually on a street with a glass wall...much better than those fake backdrops on This Morning and sh*t

That's how alot of American talk shows are - DayBreak etc should take note.

But yeah I've downloaded that video off YouTube, gonna watch it tomorrow before school - give me something to do on the bus haha.

[Patrick]

Isn't BBC's backdrop fake? It's a greenscreen - but ITV use a real window.

[Jack_]

I can't find a stream anywhere :( will have to wait for the YouTube video

[JTM45]

Emmett's not a happy bunny on The Morning Show at all. Looks like Topaz' family must have filled her in on Alec's charming behaviour behind her back too. She couldn't have gotten much further away from him while still being in the same studio.:hugesmile:

One thing that hasn't changed though.....Peter's still the biggest loser douchebag to come out of BB Canada thus far (just narrowly in front of Alec!). Good to see him being called out for being a massive contradicting fool too! :pat:

Glad to see Jillian living up to her winning self and being the class act she was all the way through! :thumbs:

[LemonJam]

Just watched the morning show reunion and Alec smiles at the camera and does the sheyld symbol as the two women are talking then Andrew's arm slowly goes toward Alec's head and does a shooting gesture :laugh:

[JTM45]

Here's a link to last night's reunion show. Sadly it's only 20 minutes long though;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQo2qv58HNo

[lostalex]

Wow, i didn't know i could hate liza more. WTF is up with her not being able to choose between Tom and Peter? I don't like any of them, I think Tom and Peter are idiots, and i think Liza is annoying, but still... How can you not know which one you like?

[reece(:]

That Roz Weston is a decent host.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Roz was more awkward than Arisa, that says a lot.

[LemonJam]

Arisa >>>

[JTM45]

Wow, i didn't know i could hate liza more. WTF is up with her not being able to choose between Tom and Peter? I don't like any of them, I think Tom and Peter are idiots, and i think Liza is annoying, but still... How can you not know which one you like?

Yeah, that annoyed the **** out of me too, stupid cow! I think she's just so desperate for male attention that she can't shut down any possible source. Such a loser of a girl, and so damn ugly too!:yuk:

[BBUKAUSFAN]

find that so stupid they bring in a new host for the reunion when Arisa was there from the start.

[lostalex]

find that so stupid they bring in a new host for the reunion when Arisa was there from the start.

I don't think they were replacing her, i think it's more like how Dermot would do a reunion show with all the housemates for BBLB after the finale. remember after bb5/6/7 Dermot did his own reunion show where he interviewed everyone after the finale?

plus ET(Entertainment Tonight) is kind of a big deal, so it was just the normal ET Canada host. In the US ET is like the main celebrity news show, and they would never devote the entire show to a BBUSA cast, so for ET Canada to do that means BBCAN must have been very very popular. I think it's a good thing. It shows how massively popular the series was in Canada.