Boston Marathon explosions reported...

[Tom4784]

There's something about all of this that just doesn't sit right with me, I don't think he is innocent by any stretch of the imagination but there's a lot more to this story then we are being told.

[Vicky.]

There's something about all of this that just doesn't sit right with me, I don't think he is innocent by any stretch of the imagination but there's a lot more to this story then we are being told.

Indeed.

The main things that make me think this are

-The 'confession' on the inside of the boat. They said he did it in his own blood..fair enough (though I find that quite odd) then they said a marker. The confession wasnt 'found' until days later..I think they need a new forensics team if they didnt spot this confession..

- He was pretty uninjured when coming out of the boat (meaning he used his own strength..he may have had injuries, but you wouldnt imagine they were life threatening since he could climb out himself). Yet ended up in a serious condition after being shot in the throat. We were told he did this to himself in a suicide attempt, before finding out he was unarmed. Who shot him in the throat..and why? Also he had an hour long gunfight with police..whilst unarmed :conf:


I just hate this trial by media thing that happens every damn time. Everyone has decided this guy is guilty (probably including the jury) before any actual evidence is seen. Trial by media is even more annoying when there are so many holes in the story :S

[arista]

http://cdn01.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/17/boston-bomber-rolling-stone.jpg


Things magazines do to stay selling and afloat.

[Z]

There's a huge furore over them using that cover... clearly did it to get attention, they should just re-issue it with a plain cover

[Vicky.]

Some celebs are dying to be on the cover of the rolling stone. All you have to do is be accused of murder and you get your wish :laugh:

I find it quite ridiculous to be honest. But not as ridiculous as the media circus surrounding this story. Even on there, they already have him as guilty.

[Z]

Some celebs are dying to be on the cover of the rolling stone. All you have to do is be accused of murder and you get your wish :laugh:

I find it quite ridiculous to be honest. But not as ridiculous as the media circus surrounding this story. Even on there, they already have him as guilty.

Yeah it's kinda crazy how they've fast tracked him through legal proceedings to get him in court ASAP, they've clearly decided he's guilty and want to get him condemned before it slips out of the public's conscience.

[Vicky.]

Yeah it's kinda crazy how they've fast tracked him through legal proceedings to get him in court ASAP, they've clearly decided he's guilty and want to get him condemned before it slips out of the public's conscience.

I have a feeling its because at the moment while its still quite raw..the jury have already decided he is guilty. They would be hard pushed to find a jury who haven't seen all the reports about it. I think they may be worried their evidence isnt enough..especially if that photo of him leaving the bag is part of their evidence as that is ridiculous..even from a still photo you can see he hasnt even dropped the bag and is just swinging it

Apparently this trial must be totally private as its a matter of national security too. Though there has been little bits of leaked footage from his initial hearing.

[Z]

Pretty sad really... I hope that they have the right perpetrator and that justice will be served, but it's quite clear that there are some inconsistencies in prosecuting Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and while I don't know if that means they've got the wrong guy, it does mean that the trial is probably going to be flawed and not exactly fair...

[arista]

There's a huge furore over them using that cover... clearly did it to get attention, they should just re-issue it with a plain cover


Yes they have sold more due to that Photo
of the Co -Killer

[arista]

Some celebs are dying to be on the cover of the rolling stone. All you have to do is be accused of murder and you get your wish :laugh:

I find it quite ridiculous to be honest. But not as ridiculous as the media circus surrounding this story. Even on there, they already have him as guilty.



Yes another Rock Star goes bankrupt
because they used the Front page to
get the Bigger sales of the sexy mag

[Nedusa]

should make for an interesting Trial....!!

[arista]

The magazine has now been removed from many stores


ref: CNN America, RTHD, FoxNewsHD, and NBC

[Sticks]

The idea was supposed to be that even the fresh faced youth from next door could be radicalised by certain groups.

[GypsyGoth]

So Rolling Stone magazine was behind the bombings, I didn't see that plot twist coming.

[arista]

So Rolling Stone magazine was behind the bombings, I didn't see that plot twist coming.



No they write inside the mag
they are wrong.

Its just using the 2nd killer
as a Front page sexy type Image has split the nation,

http://cdn01.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/17/boston-bomber-rolling-stone.jpg

[Nedusa]

I do not agree with the wording on the front cover, to print the words "the Bomber" is surely jumping the gun as his trial has not even started yet. As he is surely innocent until proven guilty I do not think this magazine should jump on the trial by media bandwagon and proclaim his guilt before the trial has even begun.

[Vicky.]

I do not agree with the wording on the front cover, to print the words "the Bomber" is surely jumping the gun as his trial has not even started yet. As he is surely innocent until proven guilty I do not think this magazine should jump on the trial by media bandwagon and proclaim his guilt before the trial has even begun.

Every single news source that talks about it has declared him the bomber already so its understandable. The ones reporting on the court case were going on about how bad it was that he is showing no remorse..forgetting that there is a slim chance he has nothing to show remorse for. I saw one report saying he should just plead guilty to spare the families/victims of the torture of going through the trial :bored:

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/28/article-2332302-1A0AAB84000005DC-594_634x371.jpg


Vicky he was there with his brother
He is Guilty of murder
Utter Fact

[Vicky.]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/28/article-2332302-1A0AAB84000005DC-594_634x371.jpg


Vicky he was there with his brother
He is Guilty of murder
Utter Fact

Erm..as were thousands of other people?

[Z]

Every single news source that talks about it has declared him the bomber already so its understandable. The ones reporting on the court case were going on about how bad it was that he is showing no remorse..forgetting that there is a slim chance he has nothing to show remorse for. I saw one report saying he should just plead guilty to spare the families/victims of the torture of going through the trial :bored:

Yeah it's a bit ridiculous, the guy hasn't been proven guilty by a court yet, it's wrong to print libel like this - because that's what it is at this stage...

[Vicky.]

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2013/07/18/tsarnaev/

I suspect the photographer who released these has opened up a new can of worms now tbh. The other photo released of him getting out of the boat did not show his throat. This one does. And oddly enough, there is no gunshot wound, or slit..and certainly not the amount of blood that would come from a wound like that. So that happened after he was arrested it seems :S

[BBfanUSA]

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2013/07/18/tsarnaev/

I suspect the photographer who released these has opened up a new can of worms now tbh. The other photo released of him getting out of the boat did not show his throat. This one does. And oddly enough, there is no gunshot wound, or slit..and certainly not the amount of blood that would come from a wound like that. So that happened after he was arrested it seems :S

Maybe he tried killing himself in custody, there is some blood though.

[Vicky.]

Maybe he tried killing himself in custody, there is some blood though.

Where would he get a gun/knife from to attempt suicide in custody? The throat wound appeared between getting out of the boat, and getting to hospital. And he was searched as soon as he got out of the boat.

[BBfanUSA]

Where would he get a gun/knife from to attempt suicide in custody? The throat wound appeared between getting out of the boat, and getting to hospital. And he was searched as soon as he got out of the boat.

just someone not paying close enough attention.

[Vicky.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1130988/boston-suspect-shot-in-face-during-capture

Edit. Warning: Link has some potentially distressing photos on it.


Boston Suspect Shot In Face During Capture
The younger of the Tsarnaev brothers is revealed to have been hit in the mouth by a police bullet, along with other injuries.

Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was shot several times including once in the face before he was captured, according to a doctor who treated him.

Previous accounts of the 20-year-old's injuries were less specific.

He was previously reported to have suffered a gunshot wound to the neck, after he was tracked down to his hideout in a boat in a Watertown back garden.

The new details come from a newly-released deposition given by Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Centre's Dr Stephen Ray Odom three days after the April 19 arrest.

Transcripts of the testimony were unsealed on Monday.
Photos taken by police and released by Boston Magazine show the standoff surrounding Dzokhar Tsarnaev's arrest Dzhokhar Tsarnaev surrenders as he is surrounded by police marksmen

The Boston Globe reported that Dr Odom described the most severe injury as a gunshot to the face that "appears to have entered through the left side inside of his mouth and exited the left face, lower face".

The suspect also suffered a skull fracture and various other injuries.

"This was a high-powered injury that has resulted in skull-base fracture, with injuries to the middle ear, the skull base, the lateral portion of his C1 vertebrae, with a significant soft-tissue injury, as well as injury to the pharynx, the mouth, and a small vascular injury that's been treated," Dr Odom testified.

He continued treating the younger Tsarnaev for several days after he was taken to hospital.

"He has multiple gunshots [sic] wounds to the extremities that have been treated with dressing to the lower extremities; and in the case of his left hand, he had multiple bony injuries as well that were treated with fixation and soft-tissue coverage, as well as tendon repair and vascular ligation," Dr Odom added.

Authorities say Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his older brother Tamerlan masterminded the Boston Marathon bombing on April 15, which left three people dead and injured more than 260 others.

Dzhokhar has pleaded not guilty to charges including using a weapon of mass destruction to kill. He is being held at a prison medical facility in Devens, Massachusetts.

Tamerlan died in a shoot-out with police.

Massachusetts State Police photographer Sergeant Sean Murphy released more than a dozen photographs, some showing an injured Dzhokar, to Boston Magazine in July.

Can anyone explain to me, how a police bullet can enter through the inside of his mouth, and exit through the lower left side of his face, without it being on purpose, and at quite close range?

Sorry, this whole thing stinks to high heaven. This shot to the face(from inside his mouth) only came out because the court ordered sealed documents to be unsealed. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aUY1d-_L2_z2LbDPqXRlsb_KP5JFLJzBdE2dcOngicw/mobilebasic?pli=1

[BBfanUSA]

Today is the one year anniversary

[Nedusa]

has the trial taken place yet ?

[BBfanUSA]

Not really yet. I think he waived his right to speedy trial. Which most people usually do.

[arista]

Today is the one year anniversary


Should not take place.


Security risks for that date

[Z]

Has it really been a year? It doesn't seem like it... I remember I was sitting in my old place of work with my 4 best friends from my course when the news broke, one of my friends was in bits because her boyfriend had moved to Boston not long before, they'd been together for 5 years at that point, she couldn't get through to him and was convinced he was hurt... he was fine, but it was scary at the time... can't believe that was a year ago!

[Jordan.]

This was so gripping to follow at the time, I don't mean that to sound bad.

[BBfanUSA]

Should not take place.


Security risks for that date

The actual Marathon is happening next week. I'm sure there will be an increased security presence. Today is a memorial service.

I remember watching the whole ordeal happening. They were on the air about it for the whole day, it was insane.

[arista]

Has it really been a year? It doesn't seem like it... I remember I was sitting in my old place of work with my 4 best friends from my course when the news broke, one of my friends was in bits because her boyfriend had moved to Boston not long before, they'd been together for 5 years at that point, she couldn't get through to him and was convinced he was hurt... he was fine, but it was scary at the time... can't believe that was a year ago!


Yes Panic of not knowing
went worldwide for many.


I still think the one they caught
under that boat in a driveway
should have been shot in his head
its much better that way.
No need for this going to court
he is Guilty as his Dead Brother

[arista]

The actual Marathon is happening next week. I'm sure there will be an increased security presence. Today is a memorial service.

I remember watching the whole ordeal happening. They were on the air about it for the whole day, it was insane.


Yes I hope More are Armed with Guns
to shoot dead any more terror groups
if it happens again.


Hit Hard
as the Terror groups do.

[Vicky.]

Still think theres something extremely dodgy about this whole thing. Suicide attempt, while unarmed, from the inside of the mouth outwards etc :idc:

[James]

There's a documentary about the investigation on Channel 4 tomorrow at 10 pm.

[Vicky.]

Wonder if it will mention that the brothers were already known to the police when the police put out the vids asking the public to help identifying them :laugh:

[lostalex]

Funny reading this thread back now, especially the first few pages and seeing Arista's ridiculous obsession with it being an American upset about gun laws.

[Ammi]

A shelter-in-place order on Boylston Street has been lifted and a 25-year-old Boston man is facing charges after police executed a controlled detonation of two suspicious bags left near the Boston Marathon finish line.

Just after 7 p.m. on Tuesday, on the one-year anniversary of last year’s Boston Marathon bombings, police said two backpacks had been found in the area and immediately ordered people to evacuate. Authorities said the backpacks were tied to a man who goes by Kayvon Edson. Edson was captured in several videos marching down Boylston Street in a black veil, wearing a backpack, and chanting “Boston strong.”

Edson was taken into custody and will be charged with disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace, and possession of a hoax device, NECN reported.

While police used controlled detonations on both bags, authorities said that does not mean they contained any explosives. The detonations were used as a precautionary measure.

We updated the story as it developed. Those updates, including pictures and video from the scene, can be found below.

Update, 10:21 p.m.: The suspect has been identified as Kayvon Edson, according to tweets from WBZ-TV’s Peter Wilson. He also tweeted that the backpack found at the scene contained a rice cooker full of confetti




http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2014/04/15/breaking-marathon-finish-line-evacuated-after-suspicious-packages-discovered/DTSiAn2NlNQe3honPF97uO/story.html?p1=ClickedOnBreakingNewsBox

[lostalex]

"Kayvon" despite my attempts to not have prejudices, that name alone tells me so much, or at least makes me presume certain things about him. I hate to sound like Katie Hopkins, but it's true. shame on me.

[arista]

A shelter-in-place order on Boylston Street has been lifted and a 25-year-old Boston man is facing charges after police executed a controlled detonation of two suspicious bags left near the Boston Marathon finish line.

Just after 7 p.m. on Tuesday, on the one-year anniversary of last year’s Boston Marathon bombings, police said two backpacks had been found in the area and immediately ordered people to evacuate. Authorities said the backpacks were tied to a man who goes by Kayvon Edson. Edson was captured in several videos marching down Boylston Street in a black veil, wearing a backpack, and chanting “Boston strong.”

Edson was taken into custody and will be charged with disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace, and possession of a hoax device, NECN reported.

While police used controlled detonations on both bags, authorities said that does not mean they contained any explosives. The detonations were used as a precautionary measure.

We updated the story as it developed. Those updates, including pictures and video from the scene, can be found below.

Update, 10:21 p.m.: The suspect has been identified as Kayvon Edson, according to tweets from WBZ-TV’s Peter Wilson. He also tweeted that the backpack found at the scene contained a rice cooker full of confetti




http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2014/04/15/breaking-marathon-finish-line-evacuated-after-suspicious-packages-discovered/DTSiAn2NlNQe3honPF97uO/story.html?p1=ClickedOnBreakingNewsBox

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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/16/article-2605636-1D22D91B00000578-671_306x423.jpg

[arista]

There's a documentary about the investigation on Channel 4 tomorrow at 10 pm.


Yes 10PM to 11:20PM Ch4HD tonight.

[lostalex]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/16/article-2605636-1D232CAE00000578-166_636x382.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/16/article-2605636-1D22991200000578-884_634x390.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/16/article-2605636-1D22DD7700000578-461_306x423.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/16/article-2605636-1D22D91B00000578-671_306x423.jpg

He looks like an asshole.

[Vicky.]

What an idiot...

[Z]

What an asshole, why would you do that?!

[arista]

What an asshole, why would you do that?!


Fame
and big bloke in your Prison Cell

[Vicky.]

There's a documentary about the investigation on Channel 4 tomorrow at 10 pm.

Did anyone watch this? I found it really interesting and was seriously surprised to see the cctv footage of what appears to be him dropping the bag, the footage I didnt believe existed tbh.

Still SO many holes in the story though from the bombing onwards. And I dont really get why they are still trying to lay the murder of the campus cop at the brothers hands..when they were only accused of that because they were accused of robbing the 7/11 round the corner..and it turned out it was a lone black male who did that and that the brothers were miles away at the shell station at that time.

No mention of how he got the gunshot wound to the neck either..didnt think they would be.

However, seeing the footage, it does seem Dzhokhar is very guilty. Though why the tape is at odds with the police report is confusing (affadavit states he was stationary talking on his phone, appeared to slip bag off shoulder where he was standing then calmly walked away...footage shown today showed him walking up the street, dumping bag quickly and leaving quickly)

[Jordan.]

The cctv was a reconstruction Vicky, it did flash up only vaguely in the corner...

[Me. I Am Salman]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/16/article-2605636-1D22D91B00000578-671_306x423.jpg

is that a little fagster

[Vicky.]

The cctv was a reconstruction Vicky, it did flash up only vaguely in the corner...

Really? It looked so real :laugh:

I did say to gav it was strange that they had been allowed to show it before the actual trial

The lookalike they had was fantastic then

[Vicky.]

Actually cant believe that the amount of time I have spent looking into this case..and I am fooled by a reconstruction. Back to thinking the whole thing is dodgy now then :laugh:

I was saying too..that if thats the proof they have, why on earth is it taking them so long to gather evidence against him, as that vid is pretty much conclusive (if the explosion came from where the bag was dumped)

[JTM45]

I think you're right to be curious about so much of the official account of the incidents Vicky.
I'm not one to jump up in support of every crazy conspiracy theory but there's things about the Boston 'bombings' that just don't sit well with me at all.
The guy with his legs blown off is one of the most suspicious parts of it all. No blood spurting from the supposed severed arteries as well as the fact that he's being wheeled along in a wheelchair just after supposedly having both of his legs blown off and he's fully conscious and surprisingly cognizant! Also, despite the blast being powerful enough to remove both of his lower legs the rest of his clothing is largely un-affected. I've seen pictures of blasts in areas with people tightly packed together and there's nearly always many people semi or fully naked having had their clothes blown off. There isn't a single person like this amongst the pictures. There's also some very suspicious photo's of him and the people around him on the ground and after the 'blast'.

I don't want to go into too much detail about it but it's worth googling it and having a look at some of the very suspicious goings on before, during and after the incidents.
Also read about the military looking guys with backpacks on (not the supposed 'bombers')standing around with earpieces and stuff. Some people even claim to have identified those guys and their claims about them are extremely intriguing to say the least.

I only recently became aware of all of this stuff and haven't looked that deeply into it but what i have read has left me with far more questions than it has answers!

[Vicky.]

Documentary never mentioned that after the older brother carjacked 'danny', then picked up the younger brother...during the shootout on dexter..they had 2 cars again(shown on many of the photos, and the vids of that shootout). If the police chased them straight from the shell garage, then when did they pick up the second car again? And why bother carjacking someone at all if you are going to keep your own car too :shrug:

[Ninastar]

pretty sure they could just do a history check on his laptop/computer and know everything

[Vicky.]

I dread to think what I would be found guilty of if the police checked my laptop search history :laugh2:

I was searching how to make pressure cooker bombs from fireworks and everything in the few weeks after this just because I was curious about how it would work

[JTM45]

There's far too many inconsistencies and irregularities for my liking. The more i look into it the dodgier the whole thing appears.
I saw a pic of the dead brother's body on the slab the other day and there were some weird unexplained injuries and stuff. There's also been comments by people who knew him about the surviving brother looking 'like a completely different person'.
In cases like this (as is the norm with 'conspiracy theories') you obviously have to take everything with a large pinch of salt but this seems different to most cases. There's just soooooo many credible people having serious problems with certain details of this case.
I think, increasingly so, the problem in the US these days is that there's more and more proven cases of the public being fed misinformation and even down-right blatant lies by the powers that be (the ones who are supposed to be protecting their interests) that it's becoming acceptable (rightly so) to question the official story.
People of my parent's generation find it very difficult to believe that Governments and people in positions of authority or power would ever purposely or knowingly lie to or mislead the general public. My parents are finally beginning to see that these things do happen though (and have been for decades or longer!).
It's a scarier World now than it has ever been!

[Ninastar]

I dread to think what I would be found guilty of if the police checked my laptop search history :laugh2:

I was searching how to make pressure cooker bombs from fireworks and everything in the few weeks after this just because I was curious about how it would work

lol i'm sure they'd find more than just that on a terrorists laptop history

[Sticks]

So it was an Israeli ordered hit by the CIA and no Jewish Taxi drivers who all work for Mossad were running or present that day, in an attempt to clamp down on more civil liberties and go to war with Oolan Bator...

:bored:

[BBfanUSA]

The Marathon is tomorrow.

Cannot wait for some idiot bloke to run onto the course and get his arse kicked by security.