Series has been ruined.

[Patrick]

I'm sorry but just, omg.

That troll AJ on Bit On The Side 'we can reveal its a VOTE TO EVICT :amazed:' ****** off love.

One of the most argumentative, gripping series we've had in years and look what happens - the bellends at Channel 5 have to find a way to destroy it.

Sallie or Gina will be gone come Friday, series will fall flat on it's arse.

I honestly just do not know what goes through these producers heads sometimes :bored: I mean how ******ing thick can they actually be?

All this, so Emma can sound a little bit like Davina when reading out the script on Friday - pathetic.

The producers are totally incapable of producing a good series, I mean one just has to look at how much of a fail this 'twist' has been - BUT, the housemates are brilliant - and what happens? They have to find a way to ruin that now too.

They troll us on purpose, what's worse is watching the cretin audience on BOTS support and cheer the change to 'Vote to Evict' - it's took us two years to get accustomed to this, WHY CHANGE IT BACK NOW.

[iRyan]

Everything about this series has been perfect until they had to go and be assholes and do that. It's like they had to get one little thing in to piss the fans off.

[Jords]

That troll AJ on Bit On The Side 'we can reveal its a VOTE TO EVICT :amazed:' ****** off love.



:laugh2:

[Locke.]

There will be a lot more time to see Dexter hitting on Hazel now, it's all good.

[Colbert-Bump]

This series will be over within a month.

[armand.kay]

All of this. They even rubbed salt in the wounds by making it a 3 way eviction ://

[Jords]

Im literally in stiches @ "**** off love" :laugh3:

[PInternet]

The three up are all the better housemates, and only one of them (hopefully) is leaving which would have been the same result with a vote to save. Even in a vote to save, if Dexter would go home this week, Gina Vs. Sallie (save a twist) would still be the result next week and one of them would go home.

[swinearefine]

Completely agree. I shut off BOTS as soon as I heard that, really lost my enthusiasm for this series now. I regret getting invested as much as I have just to have Sallie, Gina, Dexter, Jemima, and whoever else starts doing something worth watching go one after the other. At least with VTS they would have had a chance.

[Jack_]

ily Patrick :worship:

Completely agree. I shut off BOTS as soon as I heard that, really lost my enthusiasm for this series now.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one, Patrick has a point with the way AJ announced it. Actually, as soon as she said 'but there's more...' I knew what she was going to say and then she just confirmed our worst fears as if it was a good thing. Then Nikki piped up as if it's a good decision. I went from being in a really good and positive mood to being so pissed off that I actually switched BOTS off and lost all hope of this being a good series, it was awful.

I just don't get it. They got everything right...the house, the titles, the new theme, Emma, the cast, the Michael thing being a different kind of twist, and now they go ahead and pull out a series ruiner. It's mind boggling.

This series had SO much potential and we can just forget about it now. Why can't they do this to a series that's crap? Not the one that's had the best start to it in so many years.

[Patrick]

You guys switched off too? :amazed:

:love:

[Jack_]

You guys switched off too? :amazed:

:love:

Yep, was in such a good mood (except the three nominees...although I knew that was going to happen) and then I was so pissed off that I just turned off.

I've now just lost all hope that I just can't be bothered with it anymore :( part of me actually hopes the ratings just freefall and it's axed, they're asking for it

[Patrick]

Completely agree. It's their own fault.

I don't know what else they want - they have/had one of the most loyal fanbases they could possibly of asked for. The Big Brother fanbase is one of the most outspoken there is, at least we CONSTANTLY let the producers know what we want.

They are never, ever short of feedback - the vast majority of television companies/media developers have to beg for feedback to build on their show, these dick heads have forum upon forum full of hundreds of fans like us that have been dedicated to this show for years - and all they do is ignore us.

Then, they finally listen to us this year - for once, and now look what they do.

They do something amazing - we all get happy and rejoice, and then they have to go and ruin it. They can ****** themselves and shove their secrets and lies up their arse as far as I'm concerned.

Can't wait to see Callum, Daley, Sam and Jack & Joe in The Final x

[swinearefine]

Yep, was in such a good mood (except the three nominees...although I knew that was going to happen) and then I was so pissed off that I just turned off.

I've now just lost all hope that I just can't be bothered with it anymore :( part of me actually hopes the ratings just freefall and it's axed, they're asking for it

I was so excited to come on here and discuss how fierce Gina is and what not, and then I was just devastated. I watch online and know I don't contribute to ratings but as soon as I heard AJ screech "vote to evict" I exited out of the window, they don't deserve my viewership :hmph:

[JohnnyBB]

All I want to say is that we now know, That we'll lose both the puppet and Probally sallie or gina, but even loseing dexter is going to be a big loss, but when they both go on friday, the shows ****ed, unless they have somthing huge planned wich i doubt.

[DanielJordan1991]

I don't think we should give up yet. Back in the good old days of Big Brother it was always Vote to Evict and those were the best series.

[Shaun]

standard "THAT'S IT :mad:" nonsense from people who'll be watching before next week.

people need to get to grips that entertainment is defined differently by people.

people also need to get used to the phenomenon that, in the first few weeks, if not the very first week, the loudmouth obnoxious arseholes WILL make themselves known and WILL get themselves evicted. it's inevitable. if they had any intelligence or common sense they'd lie low and emerge as a big character midway. i'm so bored of people writing off a series after the eviction of one or two housemates: people were like this with Jasmine Lennard and then the house went onto multiple other talking points (Julie's domineering, Danica/Situation/Lorenzo, Coleen vs. Julie).

it's just... how are you still shocked and upset about the angry bitch going first every single series? it's been over ten years for christ's sake.

[Patrick]

I don't think we should give up yet. Back in the good old days of Big Brother it was always Vote to Evict and those were the best series.

Yes but this isn't the good old days of Big Brother.

The last time Big Brother got by just fine with VTE was BB7 - because then, and every series before then was packed with great housemates.

Now we aren't so lucky.

There's not a chance someone like Aaron would of won BB12 if it had of been a Vote to Evict.

[Patrick]

standard "THAT'S IT :mad:" nonsense from people who'll be watching before next week.

people need to get to grips that entertainment is defined differently by people.

people also need to get used to the phenomenon that, in the first few weeks, if not the very first week, the loudmouth obnoxious arseholes WILL make themselves known and WILL get themselves evicted. it's inevitable. if they had any intelligence or common sense they'd lie low and emerge as a big character midway. i'm so bored of people writing off a series after the eviction of one or two housemates: people were like this with Jasmine Lennard and then the house went onto multiple other talking points (Julie's domineering, Danica/Situation/Lorenzo, Coleen vs. Julie).

it's just... how are you still shocked and upset about the angry bitch going first every single series? it's been over ten years for christ's sake.

Oh I have no problem with that - I get what you mean. I'm just annoyed at the producers changing the voting technique, because in the long run - it'll destroy the series.

[DigitalSid]

Worked fine for the C4 years, including the show's golden era, will work fine now. I'd rather vote to save and I hope they employ it occasionally, but I'm not fussed.

[swinearefine]

standard "THAT'S IT :mad:" nonsense from people who'll be watching before next week.

people need to get to grips that entertainment is defined differently by people.

people also need to get used to the phenomenon that, in the first few weeks, if not the very first week, the loudmouth obnoxious arseholes WILL make themselves known and WILL get themselves evicted. it's inevitable. if they had any intelligence or common sense they'd lie low and emerge as a big character midway. i'm so bored of people writing off a series after the eviction of one or two housemates: people were like this with Jasmine Lennard and then the house went onto multiple other talking points (Julie's domineering, Danica/Situation/Lorenzo, Coleen vs. Julie).

it's just... how are you still shocked and upset about the angry bitch going first every single series? it's been over ten years for christ's sake.

:rolleyes: I think everyone knew that we were going to be losing a good housemate this week, what we're outraged about is the fact that with a vote to evict its much more likely that we'll continue to lose good housemates week after week.

[Shaun]

Oh I have no problem with that - I get what you mean. I'm just annoyed at the producers changing the voting technique, because in the long run - it'll destroy the series.

i'm annoyed with that too, my rant was more aimed at everyone in general :laugh:

more than anything else, i find it confusing flicking between vote to save and vote to evict all the time. maybe it was a purely moneymaking decision, though, i can see BB viewers spending more money trying to get rid of people than to keep them in.

[PInternet]

The series is/has always been ruined by the moronic public who always evict (and in this case nominate) the most dynamic characters and let the deadwood float on.

I'm just sincerely hoping that the person evicted this week will be evicted into "The House Upstairs" or a likewise twist.

[Bluerang1]

Pat is spot on here.

[DanielJordan1991]

Yes but this isn't the good old days of Big Brother.

The last time Big Brother got by just fine with VTE was BB7 - because then, and every series before then was packed with great housemates.

Now we aren't so lucky.

There's not a chance someone like Aaron would of won BB12 if it had of been a Vote to Evict.

I think that this set of housemates are the best we have had in a long time. I think as time goes on we will like them more and more like in past series. Yes it's sad that one of the big characters will go first but that's how Big Brother works, you piss off the public they want you out. It's what makes eviction nights more exciting (remember Get Grace Out!!)

There will still be lots of big characters to entertain us the whole series and BB will probably throw in another bitch halfway through to cause some drama.

[Jack_]

What they needed to address was the nominations process to get some of the dull housemates up...the voting system was perfectly fine.

It's as if they read the feedback and do the opposite of what people ask.

[Black Dagger]

I could have just about tolerated one of these nominated going had it been vote to save.

Anybody who becomes a talking point will soon be shipped off, Jack and Joe eating crisp won't get them evicted, Callum suddenly being caught in a controversy however would.

Earlier I might have been in a rage of 'URGH GINA IS MY FAVOURITE AND SHE'LL GO AND I CBA WATCHING' and I still feel like that, it's just pathetic, they had everything going for them, and now anybody who does anything will be shipped out, because the public haven't got a clue. 'YES I CAN VOTE TO EVICT AGAIN, THANK YOU C5, LET'S GET EVERYBODY OUT, DALEY TO WIN XXX' **** off, go and watch Countdown.

[billy123]

standard "THAT'S IT :mad:" nonsense from people who'll be watching before next week.

people need to get to grips that entertainment is defined differently by people.

people also need to get used to the phenomenon that, in the first few weeks, if not the very first week, the loudmouth obnoxious arseholes WILL make themselves known and WILL get themselves evicted. it's inevitable. if they had any intelligence or common sense they'd lie low and emerge as a big character midway. i'm so bored of people writing off a series after the eviction of one or two housemates: people were like this with Jasmine Lennard and then the house went onto multiple other talking points (Julie's domineering, Danica/Situation/Lorenzo, Coleen vs. Julie).

it's just... how are you still shocked and upset about the angry bitch going first every single series? it's been over ten years for christ's sake.I have come to the conclusion their memory doesnt stretch from series to series its like a whole new outrage year after year series after series.
The predictable cycle of over being over excited only to be let down and then being angry enough to hope the show is axed and claim they are never watching again! yet within a week forget all about it and play out the same routine next time it comes around. :joker:

Someone should study this.

[pcro]

I agree that this is the worst of all worlds. Vote to Save and three or more nominees means a great chance to save big characters. Vote to Evict with three or more up means big characters almost certainly going home.

That being said, I'd wager if the casual viewers who make up the largest part of the audience were polled, Vote to Evict would handily win.

[Patrick]

The series is/has always been ruined by the moronic public who always evict (and in this case nominate) the most dynamic characters and let the deadwood float on.

I'm just sincerely hoping that the person evicted this week will be evicted into "The House Upstairs" or a likewise twist.

Can't do that - because the public are voting to evict them :laugh: It happened in BB7 and there was uproar.

DAMN. That's another thing, Vote to Save would of been great for BB14 - because it would of gave them the flexibility to bring housemates back or pull of stunts like a secret house next door - and get away with it.

Because the general conception is, is that it's okay to 'not really evict someone' if the public are voting to save housemates - where as if the public are paying to get rid of someone, that person effectively HAS to go.

[Bluerang1]

Why don't they save all the evicted housemates until half-way through just to keep the show entertaining. They can't win the money, they'll just be there for viewing pleasure.

[Jords]

Why don't they save all the evicted housemates until half-way through just to keep the show entertaining. They can't win the money, they'll just be there for viewing pleasure.

Doubt theyd stay LOL

[Ramsay]

thank god i didnt see BOTS to see the crowd reaction to it being VOE..i would of raged even harder

[Ramsay]

someone make a pros and cons list right now for VOE and VOS and then compare

[newsbb]

just get dexter out and well be fine!!!!

[Ramsay]

think you're a bit off there newsbb

[Jack_]

thank god i didnt see BOTS to see the crowd reaction to it being VOE..i would of raged even harder

I've just watched the rest of BOTS back that I missed, did you hear about the sweaty box woman at the end saying that people online were loving vote to evict being back? I almost punched the ****** through the screen, WHERE DO THESE PEOPLE GET THIS SH*T FROM

[Bluerang1]

Honestly though, they trolled us hard. First making it nominated THREE people, raising our hopes for a new minimum for evictions. But then they said it was a vote to evict. Also, unlikely, but had we known if was vote to evict, we may have nominated someone else, even harder. But alas.

[Jack_]

Ah, I've realised why Michael had to nom three people now...so they could pull this stupid midweek vote freeze to turn it into a head-to-head :rolleyes:

[Shaun]

that i agree with too - two evictions from one set of nominations by the public ;_____; just horrible.

[camertone]

The producers totally suck at producing the show. BB should never let pubic nominate. I had high hopes for puppet twist, but so far it has been fruitless and damaging to the show.

[minny03]

I agree with everything that's been said by most people in here (Jack, Patrick, etc.) I mean seriously, what the **** are the producers doing?! I honestly don't get it. How do the producers benefit from getting all the big characters out in the first few weeks? How does this help the show? Do they not want their own show to be successful?

They know exactly what will happen with vote to evict and this is what initially killed the show in the first place. There is a reason why most US reality shows are STILL successful after being on the air for more than ten years. The producers in America know the importance of making significant changes to their show before it becomes stale and boring. Sometimes the changes work, sometimes they don't. But what matters is that they make a gamble and try to do something new or different to make sure viewers keep watching their tv show.

I just can't believe that they would do something like this. BB14 had the potential of being a fantastic series and the producers ****ing ruined it in one fell swoop. I honestly need a logical explanation on why they make so many stupid decisions like this. Even on a business standpoint, how does getting the polarizing housemates out first help this program? Do they not see the value in people like Gina and Sallie?!!

[Jack_]

I agree with everything that's been said by most people in here (Jack, Patrick, etc.) I mean seriously, what the **** are the producers doing?! I honestly don't get it. How do the producers benefit from getting all the big characters out in the first few weeks? How does this help the show? Do they not want their own show to be successful?

They know exactly what will happen with vote to evict and this is what initially killed the show in the first place. There is a reason why most US reality shows are STILL successful after being on the air for more than ten years. The producers in America know the importance of making significant changes to their show before it becomes stale and boring. Sometimes the changes work, sometimes they don't. But what matters is that they make a gamble and try to do something new or different to make sure viewers keep watching their tv show.

I just can't believe that they would do something like this. BB14 had the potential of being a fantastic series and the producers ****ing ruined it in one fell swoop. I honestly need a logical explanation on why they make so many stupid decisions like this. Even on a business standpoint, how does getting the polarizing housemates out first help this program? Do they not see the value in people like Gina and Sallie?!!

*applauds*

Great post.

[pcro]

There is a reason why most US reality shows are STILL successful after being on the air for more than ten years. The producers in America know the importance of making significant changes to their show before it becomes stale and boring. Sometimes the changes work, sometimes they don't. But what matters is that they make a gamble and try to do something new or different to make sure viewers keep watching their tv show.

careful what you wish for. The US big brother is not the standard to go by. They drained most of the essence of big brother out of that one years ago and we are left with show totally devoted to showmances and scripted bs. beyond that, it really hasnt changed in terms of format in years. Even the house stays virtually the same year after year save for new paint and fixtures. The housemates, when they arent actually returning players from previous seasons, are virtual replicas of previous players. Nah, for the disappointments that sometimes comes with BBUK, its still miles ahead of the yanks and canucks version.

[minny03]

I wasn't specifically talking about BBUS (that show annoys me at times, but it still manages to stay entertaining a lot longer than the BBUK version). I was thinking of other shows like Survivor or even Real World/Road Rules Challenge, which changes its theme and format every now and then from like "Battle of the Exes" to "Rivals" or to something else. I can't imagine where the show would be if they stuck to its original format.

What I'm trying to say from my original comment is that you can't expect a huge audience for a tv show if nothing ever changes. You have to change certain elements to keep your audience from straying. BBUK has been on since 2000 - but things are different now. What was entertaining back then for some people is not going to be entertaining now. You can't keep things the same. Something crucial has to change: like the VOTING FORMAT.

Producers from US reality shows understand this. On a show like Survivor, they brought in this stupid redemption island twist. And that lasted for like two seasons I think. You know why they got rid of it? Because it ended up being a boring disaster. They thought that redemption island would keep strong players from leaving too early and wanted to give those players a second chance in the game, but it did nothing good for the show. But at least they were smart enough to eliminate it and I respect them for trying to bring in something exciting to the game. Survivor, like Big Brother, is an aging show. You need to make changes once in awhile for it to survive.

[billy123]

The producers totally suck at producing the show. BB should never let pubic nominate. I had high hopes for puppet twist, but so far it has been fruitless and damaging to the show.I agree.

http://midliferocksblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/War-On-Pubic-Hair.jpeg

[Marc]

:rolleyes: This thread

[arista]

No its to Early
to say its no good.


Give the Fecker a chance

[*mazedsalv**]

We need to vote out Dexter, it must happen!

But I bet next week if Dexter goes, it will be Gina vs. Sallie anyway.

[pcro]

I wasn't specifically talking about BBUS (that show annoys me at times, but it still manages to stay entertaining a lot longer than the BBUK version). I was thinking of other shows like Survivor or even Real World/Road Rules Challenge, which changes its theme and format every now and then from like "Battle of the Exes" to "Rivals" or to something else. I can't imagine where the show would be if they stuck to its original format.

What I'm trying to say from my original comment is that you can't expect a huge audience for a tv show if nothing ever changes. You have to change certain elements to keep your audience from straying. BBUK has been on since 2000 - but things are different now. What was entertaining back then for some people is not going to be entertaining now. You can't keep things the same. Something crucial has to change: like the VOTING FORMAT.

Producers from US reality shows understand this. On a show like Survivor, they brought in this stupid redemption island twist. And that lasted for like two seasons I think. You know why they got rid of it? Because it ended up being a boring disaster. They thought that redemption island would keep strong players from leaving too early and wanted to give those players a second chance in the game, but it did nothing good for the show. But at least they were smart enough to eliminate it and I respect them for trying to bring in something exciting to the game. Survivor, like Big Brother, is an aging show. You need to make changes once in awhile for it to survive.

I agree you have to keep things fresh. But, in all fairness, few long running show today can expect to have viewers like it had 10 or even five years ago. There's just too many choices and fracturing of the audience. The aformentioned Survivor has lost three quarters of its audience from its glory days. Same goes for Amazing Race which has been on almost as long. Their audiences dwindle naturally but moreover they face so much for competition for viewers. All televison shows face this. It's just that few have been on for 10 or more years. BBUK is not immune to this. Nevber mind that it's moved to a much smaller channel. It's been on for 14 years and is long in the tooth and is competing for viewers in an entirely different marketpalce than was in place in 2000. At the end of the day, you can switch out hosts, spruce up the house, bring on twists etc. etc. The producers making better decision can slow the process but at the end of the day all shows simply have a lifecycle. The audience moves on. BB will never be restored to its former glory. But if it turns a bigger profit for Channel 5 than other alternatives it will carry on. If it doesn't it won't.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I agree.

http://midliferocksblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/War-On-Pubic-Hair.jpeg

Omg! :laugh2:

[Fosse]

I don't really care if it's vote to save or vote to evict.

[zakman440]

I most definitely agree with those who are against it. A terrible desicion, and I didn't mind at first, but with such big characters up, it will go downhill, as the public always hate the big characters.

[Josy]

standard "THAT'S IT :mad:" nonsense from people who'll be watching before next week.

people need to get to grips that entertainment is defined differently by people.

people also need to get used to the phenomenon that, in the first few weeks, if not the very first week, the loudmouth obnoxious arseholes WILL make themselves known and WILL get themselves evicted. it's inevitable. if they had any intelligence or common sense they'd lie low and emerge as a big character midway. i'm so bored of people writing off a series after the eviction of one or two housemates: people were like this with Jasmine Lennard and then the house went onto multiple other talking points (Julie's domineering, Danica/Situation/Lorenzo, Coleen vs. Julie).

it's just... how are you still shocked and upset about the angry bitch going first every single series? it's been over ten years for christ's sake.

http://media.tumblr.com/b80cfcd98f163d6ff190488f3985e7e5/tumblr_inline_mi394eyDr11qz4rgp.gif

[Marsh.]

Best series ever.
Worst series ever.
Series ruined.
Series improved.
Best house ever.
Worst house ever.
Best presenter.
Hate it. Love it. Hate it. Love it. Hate it. Love it.

Just stop putting such extreme judgements on the series before we've seen it unfold, it's been less than a bloody week.

[Patrick]

I'm thinking of ringing in to BOTS on Friday and annihilating them.

'patrick from belfast is on da phone! hai wats ur chat babe? :amazed:'

'Let me speak to your manager.'

lol. It would completely ruin their night.

Best series ever.
Worst series ever.
Series ruined.
Series improved.
Best house ever.
Worst house ever.
Best presenter.
Hate it. Love it. Hate it. Love it. Hate it. Love it.

Just stop putting such extreme judgements on the series before we've seen it unfold, it's been less than a bloody week.

We're being realistic. We've watched this show for years and know how it works and how it unfolds from here.

We've seen it all before. Anyone who actually thinks BB14 is going to BENEFIT from a Vote to Evict, is deluded in every way - it simply won't. You know that aswell as I do, surely.

[reece(:]

AJ Odudu troll comment :laugh2:

[Marsh.]

We're being realistic. We've watched this show for years and know how it works and how it unfolds from here.

We've seen it all before. Anyone who actually thinks BB14 is going to BENEFIT from a Vote to Evict, is deluded in every way - it simply won't. You know that aswell as I do, surely.

Saying categorically that the series is ruined with little to no actual evidence is just ridiculous. It makes you determined not to enjoy it.

And judging by BB13, vote to save makes very little difference especially when two housemates go head to head.

[Jamesy]

Vote to evict worked in the earlier days of Big Brother. But it just doesn't work now. People vote out the louder ones and those people are usually the ones that make the show.

If we had vote to evict for the last CBB Spedi would have been out straight away. Vote to save works far better as people vote for the same housemates. No one votes to 'evict' or 'save' a housemate, they vote for the loudest and most known housemates. It's always been like that. However they market roughly the same votes will go to the same people regardless.

[Roy Mars III]

it hasn't even been a week yet :joker:

[Bluerang1]

it hasn't even been a week yet :joker:

We can predict the future because it happens every year.

[Roy Mars III]

We can predict the future because it happens every year.

yea, people say it after every year, but it always turns out all right.

Gina will be going, and as entertaining as a few find her (not me), someone else will take her role or a role like hers. In six weeks no one will even remember who Gina was

[Roy Mars III]

Vote to Evict won't even really effect the series, half the vote to saves last year were head to head and they are the same as vote to evict.

[Tregard]

i'm annoyed with that too, my rant was more aimed at everyone in general :laugh:

more than anything else, i find it confusing flicking between vote to save and vote to evict all the time. maybe it was a purely moneymaking decision, though, i can see BB viewers spending more money trying to get rid of people than to keep them in.

Short term, they will definitely get more votes in these early weeks when the big characters are annoying people. But once they are gone, and the well runs dry, we'll be left with a house of non-offensive characters, and people won't feel strongly enough to vote to evict them.

With vote to save, the fans of each housemate were, in essence, voting to keep them in to continue voting for them. It is a rolling accumulation in a way, the people with the biggest fan bases stay in, and so this large group of voters will get to continue to vote. It should really make more sense that Vote To Save would make more money vote wise. Perhaps they weren't getting many votes in the past few series, and suspected a shake-up might get more people voting, but again, that's not looking at the long term :/

[Rob!]

It really really hasn't ruined the series at all. How overdramatic can you be? We're on day 6. DAY 6.

[thesheriff443]

forum members you are the public, some on here think they are the all seeing eye!
its like this, people don't want to watch some no mark giving it the large for 3 months!.

[JPG2502]

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/big_brother_2013

BRING BACK THE VOTE TO SAVE!!
sign sign sign

[Black Dagger]

forum members you are the public, some on here think they are the all seeing eye!
its like this, people don't want to watch some no mark giving it the large for 3 months!.

And plenty don't want to see dullards fly to the final having done nothing.

The BB11 final should show the producers why they chose VTS in the first place, going back to evict is stupid.. people saying 'oh but new characters will develop'... yes they will and be shipped out for it.

BB3/5/6/7 worked with vote to evict because viewers had common sense and the majority were big characters anyway, they don't now.

[Macie Lightfoot]

But the viewers never had common sense?

[Headie]

The odds are getting closer between her and Dexter.

Gina 1/2
Dexter 9/4
Sallie 5/1

If we all voted multiple times to evict Dexter (i.e. more than once) then I think we could actually get him evicted this week and Gina and Sallie would be saved.

[Maneki-neko]

It's never gonna be 2006 again I don't know what you people are expecting.

[Samm]

standard "THAT'S IT :mad:" nonsense from people who'll be watching before next week.

people need to get to grips that entertainment is defined differently by people.

people also need to get used to the phenomenon that, in the first few weeks, if not the very first week, the loudmouth obnoxious arseholes WILL make themselves known and WILL get themselves evicted. it's inevitable. if they had any intelligence or common sense they'd lie low and emerge as a big character midway. i'm so bored of people writing off a series after the eviction of one or two housemates: people were like this with Jasmine Lennard and then the house went onto multiple other talking points (Julie's domineering, Danica/Situation/Lorenzo, Coleen vs. Julie).

it's just... how are you still shocked and upset about the angry bitch going first every single series? it's been over ten years for christ's sake.

This. people can't judge the series yet it hasn't Evan been 1 week

[starry]

I'm sorry but just, omg.

That troll AJ on Bit On The Side 'we can reveal its a VOTE TO EVICT :amazed:' ****** off love.


Followed by Nikki opening her mouth to reveal she is as usual better off keeping it shut.

[Urban Cragou]

Agree with Patrick very much. Sallie and Gina provide for quality entertainment and although I can't judge what definitely will or won't happen, I reckon it will turn dull when they go.

[Chuckyegg]

The op is said every year by many overexcited killjoys

[Marsh.]

Agree with Patrick very much. Sallie and Gina provide for quality entertainment and although I can't judge what definitely will or won't happen, I reckon it will turn dull when they go.

But that's a presumption. The show's been going less than a week, Sallie may be hogging screentime because she has a big gob but we don't know how the dynamics will change in the house as housemates are removed.

We've barely seen any of others because of the Sallie/Gina drama. We haven't seen what they have to offer. What other stories and relationships (not of the romantic kind) might unfold with the Sallie drama gone.

Personally, I wouldn't want Sallie or Gina gone this Friday, I just think it's stupid to write the series off after 5 days.

[Jarrod]

Let the negative comments flow because in the end you will cause Channel 5 to end the show. Not them.

[billy123]

Let the negative comments flow because in the end you will cause Channel 5 to end the show. Not them.http://media.washtimes.com/media/community/viewpoint/entry/2013/02/22/like.jpg

[DigitalMethod]

Im finding it harder to get over you guys actually still watching that pile of crap BOTS bulls^^t.

[Urban Cragou]

But that's a presumption. The show's been going less than a week, Sallie may be hogging screentime because she has a big gob but we don't know how the dynamics will change in the house as housemates are removed.

We've barely seen any of others because of the Sallie/Gina drama. We haven't seen what they have to offer. What other stories and relationships (not of the romantic kind) might unfold with the Sallie drama gone.

Personally, I wouldn't want Sallie or Gina gone this Friday, I just think it's stupid to write the series off after 5 days.

I see what you're on but that's why I said I reckon. Of course it would be completely absurd to dismiss the entire series as dull four days in. But given Gina/Sallie have been the cause of all the drama and conflict in the house, it's reasonable to suggest that it may lose its appeal for me. I'd obviously wait further to discuss things objectively.

[Braden]

Let the negative comments flow because in the end you will cause Channel 5 to end the show. Not them.

I agree. The negativity surrounding any sort of problems is blown out proportion entirely, and causes so much stress for watching the programme and being on the forum in my opinion.

I mean, everyone's entitled to their opinion but I think people need to get over the fact that there's not going to be a perfect series of Big Brother. Especially when it's on Channel 5.

[toronto_matt]

not sure why people are being so dramatic and over the top. i agree. bb of old was always vote to evict and was full of very classic seasons.

and if people are so put off and disgusted why do they come on here and moan about it? I dunno about anyone else but when i don't like a show i just stop watching, i don't come on messages boards and waste my time talking about it EVEN MORE

if your done with the show be done with it. stop the crying

i never can wrap my head around the fact that "your" big brother "bbuk" is looked at by the rest of the world as like the pinnacle of big brothers. the big brother to be modeled after. and its loved world wide by tens of thousands of international fans but EVERY year like clockwork you have some brits crying about how bb has gone to **** and how horrible it is now, and how the producers have ruined it.

EVERY YEAR

doesn't it get old watching something you just complain about constantly?

god, get over it, watch something else.

[Urban Cragou]

not sure why people are being so dramatic and over the top. i agree. bb of old was always vote to evict and was full of very classic seasons.

and if people are so put off and disgusted why do they come on here and moan about it? I dunno about anyone else but when i don't like a show i just stop watching, i don't come on messages boards and waste my time talking about it EVEN MORE

if your done with the show be done with it. stop the crying

i never can wrap my head around the fact that "your" big brother "bbuk" is looked at by the rest of the world as like the pinnacle of big brothers. the big brother to be modeled after. and its loved world wide by tens of thousands of international fans but EVERY year like clockwork you have some brits crying about how bb has gone to **** and how horrible it is now, and how the producers have ruined it.

EVERY YEAR

doesn't it get old watching something you just complain about constantly?

god, get over it, watch something else.

Because they're long-term fans of the show and have the right to comment on what they want? If you're so wound up by it, there's the ignore facility...

[Black Dagger]

Let the negative comments flow because in the end you will cause Channel 5 to end the show. Not them.

Technically it would be them, there was nothing wrong with VTS, and Patrick is right... when people come to the fore-front they'll be shafted, because people will be like 'OH THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING, how dare they!!! -evicts-'

[RodHull]

because then, and every series before then was packed with great housemates.

LOLWUT!!!

There have always been duff HMs who were as boring as watching paint dry, yes even in hallowed BB1.

And need I remind you of BB4. Well I probably do have to cause nobody bloody watched it :sleep:

[Macie Lightfoot]

BB1 wasn't boring though?

[RodHull]

BB1 wasn't boring though?

And neither is this series yet... what was your point?

And I was simply replying to somebody who said BB7 and all before all had great housemates, when in fact they didn't and indeed in almost every series ever the best HMs leave very early on. You just have to look at most of the final 3s in every series to see how the most entertaining ones are usually long gone and some boring 'nice but dim' type often wins. Or someone with a sob story.

[rionablue]

I'm sorry but just, omg.

That troll AJ on Bit On The Side 'we can reveal its a VOTE TO EVICT :amazed:' ****** off love.

One of the most argumentative, gripping series we've had in years and look what happens - the bellends at Channel 5 have to find a way to destroy it.

Sallie or Gina will be gone come Friday, series will fall flat on it's arse.

I honestly just do not know what goes through these producers heads sometimes :bored: I mean how ******ing thick can they actually be?

All this, so Emma can sound a little bit like Davina when reading out the script on Friday - pathetic.

The producers are totally incapable of producing a good series, I mean one just has to look at how much of a fail this 'twist' has been - BUT, the housemates are brilliant - and what happens? They have to find a way to ruin that now too.

They troll us on purpose, what's worse is watching the cretin audience on BOTS support and cheer the change to 'Vote to Evict' - it's took us two years to get accustomed to this, WHY CHANGE IT BACK NOW.

Dont watch it then Patrick. If I thought all of the above I wouldnt bother wasting my time watching the rest of the series. Honest :conf: I like Big Brother and yeah ok they make a few wrong decisions but if a day comes that I think its pathetic like you say well I wouldnt bother watching it

[Macie Lightfoot]

And neither is this series yet... what was your point?

And I was simply replying to somebody who said BB7 and all before all had great housemates, when in fact they didn't and indeed in almost every series ever the best HMs leave very early on. You just have to look at most of the final 3s in every series to see how the most entertaining ones are usually long gone and some boring 'nice but dim' type often wins. Or someone with a sob story.

That's... not true and I don't even know what you're trying to prove but whatever.

[Amy Jade]

I will probably stop watching when Sallie and Gina have both gone, I don't have much interest in the rest - BB does something silly every year to try and get a big character out early.

I'm not surprised the vote to evict is back at all, I predicted it would return after Speidi almost beat Rylan in CBB, they were desperate for him to win and they realized they were loosing control and could end up with another unfavourable winner they could not use long term.

[Macie Lightfoot]

So desperate for Rylan to win they manipulated three evictions... for Speidi? Makes a lot of sense...

[ruiphillips]

It was good while it lasted. I suppose my Queen Gina is getting the boot. :(

[Amy Jade]

So desperate for Rylan to win they manipulated three evictions... for Speidi? Makes a lot of sense...
Ermm I didn't say they didn't spin it a bit for Speidi to stay, neither was that the point... what I am saying is that it was pretty obvious how the powers that be wanted Rylan to win.

[Macie Lightfoot]

But if they really wanted Rylan to win as badly as you think (probably more of this "chosen one" BS) surely they wouldn't have let his biggest competition make it to the end so yeah

[Marsh.]

Crap like the "producers favourite who they want to win".

Whilst it may be true about them favouring the bigger characters in highlights shows and wanting to keep them in during deathly dull times (like in BB8) the producers couldn't give a monkey's who wins.

To suggest they care is BOLLOCKS.

[Sun Tzu.]

Makes no difference. Big personalities will always be in danger because they divide opinion. People barely have an opinion on Callum.

[Amy Jade]

I believe they never imagined Speidi would get so much support at the end.

The amount of tasks Rylan got given that ANY other HM could have taken part in make their desire to have him heavily featured and favourably spoke volumes to me. You don't have to agree and I don't care if you don't but I am entitled to think as a wish.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Well given that Speidi were nominated in almost every eviction they certainly had an accurate reading on their support.

[Rob!]

Crap like the "producers favourite who they want to win".

Whilst it may be true about them favouring the bigger characters in highlights shows and wanting to keep them in during deathly dull times (like in BB8) the producers couldn't give a monkey's who wins.

To suggest they care is BOLLOCKS.

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