*Breaking News- Live Feed Axed... Again!*

[*mazedsalv**]

ATV Today ‏@atvtodayuk
Channel 5 has confirmed to @atvtodayuk that Big Brother Live From The House on 5* is to be axed due to poor ratings.

Knew it would happen after the terrible ratings.

[Marcus.]

nooooooooooooooooo

[Black Dagger]

Awful, just awful :bored:

[Black Dagger]

What did they expect putting it up against the soaps and giving it barely any promotion, ****ing morons.

[Scream]

It has been really boring to be fair. I've watched it but, don't really care

[Josy]

Oh ffs

[HBB1508]

Oh poo I was really enjoying that.

[Vanessa]

:bored::bored::bored:

[the truth]

serves BB right for always choosing idiot wannabees housemates
the whole show has been going down the pan for years
they need some regular people who actually work for a living

[*mazedsalv**]

serves BB right for always choosing idiot wannabees housemates
the whole show has been going down the pan for years
they need some regular people who actually work for a living

No. It was the slot. The LF after evictions have got 500k-600k.

[Josy]

We need that couple of hours live feed whether people think it's boring or not it was fantastic being able to just have it on and see them going about day to day things like we used to when we had it 24/7.

[Roy Mars III]

why not just put it 24/7 on the internet and charge like 5 or 10 pounds for it

[Vicky.]

Rather than doing the sensible thing and putting it in a better timeslot? :bored:

[smeagol]

its a good thing its axed they put it on at the wrong time when nothing is happening. people tune in think whats this oh bb is this all they do all day wash up and eat with bird noises n turn off. thats why ppl dont watch.
they should of put live feed on only after evictions and big tasks etc

[GiRTh]

Get rid of that casino bollox and put it on 5* late at night. OK that casino bollox may be bringing lots of revenue but if C5 are gonna make a commitment to BB then they have to do something with live feed other than axing it.

[reece(:]

Ugh they're so pathetic, haven't even give it a chance and set it up for the fall in that timeslot.

[Scotty07]

Exactly what I feared might happen.:mad: Hope the housemates don't know though.:devil:

[*mazedsalv**]

bbspy ‏@bbspy
NEWSFLASH: Big Brother nightly live streaming on 5* has been axed - no longer in the schedules from Saturday 6th July #bbuk #bbuklive

[Josy]

This has pissed me right off, they haven't even given it a chance tbh the least they can do is move it to a better time slot. :mad:

[Marcus.]

so it all gone

[Sophster]

I tuned into the live feed for the first time last night and it was so dull. Just birdsong half the time. But I think it's important that people get the opportunity to watch the housemates unedited (well, less edited anyway).

Stupid channel 5.

[*mazedsalv**]

I don't understand why they don't just ****ing move it after BOTS for 2 hours, midnight until 2am! Or earlier on at like 2pm-4pm! Pathetic.

[Niamh.]

ah no, I was enjoying watching a bit of live feed too :/

[Marc]

:laugh2: brilliant

[Niamh.]

Marc http://goemaw.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/shaking_fist.png.gif

[Benjamin]

Why can they not just to a 24/7 live feed streaming online?

[Marc]

-sits back and watches the s*** hit the fan-

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Eating-Popcorn-Soda.gif

[Marsh.]

What a joke. Either move the timeslot or at least put it on the website for a couple of hours.

Oh well, BB13 I enjoyed you for all of 14 days. More than the last 2.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

bbspy ‏@bbspy
NEWSFLASH: Big Brother nightly live streaming on 5* has been axed - no longer in the schedules from Saturday 6th July #bbuk #bbuklive

Erm they haven't been doing night streaming have they?

[*mazedsalv**]

Ch5 logic.... put LF on at the toughest time for a multichannel and axe it because it's not needed. Typical.

I think the 500-600k people watching LF at night proves viewers DO want to see LF, just at a different time.

[Josy]

Erm they haven't been doing night streaming have they?

He means the LF that's on every night at 7pm?

[Marsh.]

What's the average viewing for that channel anyway?

It's hardly a brilliant source of programming.

[oathbreaker]

No shock though.
as I was talking to unhappy on twitter take the other night
have a convo with 50% of the misery twins and in the background you could hear some laughing and real fun they stuck with the misery twin.

I don't really think Endemol wanted it working why would that be? because its already shown HM's in a different light to what they want viewers to believe in a h.l show.
Given this axe does that mean BOTS will be axed also? if the figures keep dropping.
Ben Frow was told within hours of the time being made public this would fail he basically said it was this or nothing.

I have emailed him back from his previous email If I get a reply I will of course post
but sadly I think BBUK (normal version) is all but over.

[sampvt]

Watching live feed was like watching paint dry. Bird songs and boring crap does not get many viewers. The show needs ramping up and sorting out quickly before it degenerates into an also ran series.

[Macie Lightfoot]

It has been really boring to be fair. I've watched it but, don't really care

This tbh

[Firewire]

can't say i'm bothered, watched it only once

[Drew.]

first week or so of live feed was good but it has got a little boring recently

[Ramsay]

booo-urns

[jet]

I don't understand why they don't just ****ing move it after BOTS for 2 hours, midnight until 2am! Or earlier on at like 2pm-4pm! Pathetic.

BB should be on at 9pm, BOTS at 10pm then live feed 10 - midnight. It was bound to fail in its current time slot.

[Marcus.]

Big Brother 24/7 ‏@bbuk247 1m
Channel 5 have axed Live Streaming starting from July 6th http://bigbrother247.co.uk/day-14-c5-axe-daily-live-streaming/ … #bbuk

[Ramsay]

if they bring it back for CBB, i swear to god :bored:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Gutted!!

It just feels like a tacky rip off of BB now.

Weve gone from getting 2 hours and 45 minutes of house action a day now to just an edited 45 minutes.

I said this would happen and certain members and shant be names said they "couldn't axe it".

Whats the bets this is the last civilian BB.

[*mazedsalv**]

What if the ratings pick up by the 6th July?

[*mazedsalv**]

Gutted!!

It just feels like a tacky rip off of BB now.

Weve gone from getting 2 hours and 45 minutes of house action a day now to just an edited 45 minutes.

I said this would happen and certain members and shant be names said they "couldn't axe it".

Whats the bets this is the last civilian BB.

Doubt it about the last civ BB. With officials, this series could be the highest rated civ BB since its move. But it all depends on how the rest of the run goes.

But regarding the LF. Pathetic. Why not move it? Why axe it altogether?

[Patrick]

****ING STUPID MINDLESS ABSOLUTE BASTARDS!


GL;SKJDFGDGHDFGFDGFG
ffs.

I'm heartbroken.

They have given up on it. they never did want the main show to work anyway they are only interested in the celebrity crap.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/R.I.P._Big_Brother.jpg

Best post you've ever made. Respect.

[smeagol]

Bbbots will be next if they dont get rid of aj & rylan. whoever chose to put live feed on at dinner time for the housemates and up against soaps was nuts. and bbots is a disaster as well. whoever made those decisions should be whipped with a dead fish

[oathbreaker]

What if the ratings pick up by the 6th July?

the reply I got to the suggestion it would fail was pretty intense to be honest. 2hrs wasn't good but when a lot of us saw the time slot it just screamed failure so this isn't a shock its a massive ask for soap fans to drop that in favour of a limited feed

a feeds future is online only it wont work on TV because its ratings reliant

[jackc1806]

Tweet them abuse like me

[Munchkins]

Idk i guess most fans just arent into big brother enough to watch 2 hours of live feed, then a highlights show and BOTS tbh

[Patrick]

I'm tweeting them calling them all the *****s of the day and bombarding Channel 5 with Online Feed tweets.

[Marsh.]

Bbbots will be next

That's not a bad thing.

[MTVN]

Shame, they'll use this now as a reason to never give us regular LF again despite the problem being more the slot than anything. Not been able to see that much of it because of the time its on but just appreciated it being there if I ever did get the chance to watch, nice to just see the more normal everyday moments and conversations rather than purely the dramatic events that make the HL show

Presume we will still get it on Friday nights at least?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Doubt it about the last civ BB. With officials, this series could be the highest rated civ BB since its move. But it all depends on how the rest of the run goes.

But regarding the LF. Pathetic. Why not move it? Why axe it altogether?

Im sorry but I think it will be the last one.

Advertisers are only interested in overnights ratings and the fact that the launches without +1 got under 2 million is very very unattractive.

Now with overnights being around 1.2/1.3 million and other Channel 5 programmes like CSI getting nearly 2 million some nights Big Brother just isn't performing well.

Why would they shell out more money on it next year when they aren't getting anything in return.

[jackc1806]

@channel5_tv @bbuk @BBUKLive ****ing clueless, axing lie feed already. **** you and your ****ty little channel. @Channel4 save us from them!

[fingers]

The poor camera work, discussed in another thread, just shows that Ch5 have no interest in, or commitment to, this show.

[jackc1806]

Tweet Channel 4 and beg for them to buy the show back.

[Ramsay]

Channel 4 were just as bad as 5 towards the end so i dont see much point in that

[Patrick]

Patrick Mc Caffery ‏@Patrick_BBUK now
@endemoltv @channel5_tv @bbuk Worst Decision EVER.
JUST CHANGE THE TIME SLOT OF LIVE FEED! Would be a different story for Celebrity BB tho!

[Twitter Robot]

Josy has posted a new TiBB frontpage article.

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Nightly Live Feed Axed.

Channel 5 have confirmed that the two hour live feed that airs nightly on 5* has been axed and will no longer be shown from July 6th.

More to follow...

Let us know what you think about this decision in the forum....

Read full article here - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/bigbrother14-secrets-and-lies/news-228019/channel-5-axes-bb-live-feed.html

[pcro]

Disappointing but can't really blame Channel 5. They arent in this business to lose money. The live feed was getting about a 5th (being generous) of the viewership it needed to make sense for Channel 5. With such miniscule numbers, its very doubtful any amount of promotion or any time slot would have made much difference. They tried. The viewers did not respond. Unfortunately the BB hardcore enthusiasts who frequent this board do not represent the population as a whole, which in the end decides these things. Frankly, looking at the programme numbers for the main show, I'm more conerned whether BB itself will survive beyond next summer than I am about minimally viewed live feeds at this point.

[MTVN]

Why start begging channel 4, they scrapped the show altogether never mind just the LF

[Josy]

Idk i guess most fans just arent into big brother enough to watch 2 hours of live feed, then a highlights show and BOTS tbh

They are into it munch just not at that time slot.

Why start begging channel 4, they scrapped the show altogether never mind just the LF

This.

Channel 4 couldn't give a **** and they will no doubt be laughing up their sleeves.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

daniel james lewis ‏@pontyboi 9s
@channel5_tv Whoever works on your scheduling needs firing. Just put LIVE FEED on at a less competitive time It gets 500k late night #bbuk

[jackc1806]

In response to one of their updates -

Jack ‏@Jack_BB14
@BBUKLive No one cares, give us LIVE FEED in a proper timeslot instead of axing it.

[*mazedsalv**]

Im sorry but I think it will be the last one.

Advertisers are only interested in overnights ratings and the fact that the launches without +1 got under 2 million is very very unattractive.

Now with overnights being around 1.2/1.3 million and other Channel 5 programmes like CSI getting nearly 2 million some nights Big Brother just isn't performing well.

Why would they shell out more money on it next year when they aren't getting anything in return.

They have a contract until 2014 don't they? The overnights are the same as BB13, and higher than BB12. I don't think it will be axed if it stays at the same level as it is. BB13 actually went to around 1.1m overnights every night in the 2nd half of its run.

There is no worry.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

If late night live feed gets over 500k there is obvious interest so why have Channel 5 not just launched an online feed and charged £10 a seasonal pass?

I don't get it.

Surely they would make a profit?

[Kate!]

Bloody hell!

[Daffodil]

The problem is that Channel 5 don't seem to advertise the live feed. BB had been on a week before I realised that the live feed actually existed. I am sure if they mentioned the live feed at the end of BB or BBBOTS, more viewers would tune in.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

They have a contract until 2014 don't they? The overnights are the same as BB13, and higher than BB12. I don't think it will be axed if it stays at the same level as it is. BB13 actually went to around 1.1m overnights every night in the 2nd half of its run.

There is no worry.

Noone has seen this contract stating that they have to run the normal series.

Its all speculation.

I see no reason why they cant axe it and just run CBB.

Also 2014 could just be a January CBB and game over.

Who knows.

[Gstar]

They 100% did this on purpose, putting it at the worst time slot possible with next to no promotion

[Niamh.]

Josy has posted a new TiBB frontpage article.



Read full article here - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/bigbrother14-secrets-and-lies/news-228019/channel-5-axes-bb-live-feed.html

Thanks for letting us know TR :xyxwave:

[jackc1806]

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[*mazedsalv**]

Noone has seen this contract stating that they have to run the normal series.

Its all speculation.

I see no reason why they cant axe it and just run CBB.

Also 2014 could just be a January CBB and game over.

Who knows.

Possibly. But as long as it stays around the same as it is. It will be safe. The overnights have barely moved in the 10pm slot since the beginning which means its consistent. It basically got 1.4m last night (1.35m I think incl +1).

But I agree with the CBB opinions. I can imagine them focusing on all of the CBB aspect and leave BB to die.

[jackc1806]

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**** YOU FROW

[jackc1806]

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**** YOU FROW

[fruit_cake]

it almost feels like they've done this on purpose, they knew they had to give us LF. So they set it up to fail, and now they can pretend it's not necessary for the show and never have to put it on again.

[ThisIsNickkk]

**** WHAAAAAAT?

I can't believe they have axed it already!! I thought they'd have given us at least one series worth instead of three weeks!

Complete waste of time...

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think they did it to prove they were right when saying "no one watches live feed".


I can imagine them saying *If we stick it on at a really awkward time where it has no chance in the ratings then its justified in us not running a live stream. Then if we give it no promotion whatsoever its a done deal.

Absolute *****.

Either that or they really are that dumb and don't know how to market or schedule their programming because late nigh live feed still gets over 500k and has even surpassed 1 million on other occasions.

I think they may actually be just a little bit dumb.

[pcro]

They 100% did this on purpose, putting it at the worst time slot possible with next to no promotion

And what in the world would be their motivation for doing this?:joker:

The feed had been gone for 2 full years already. If they didnt want the feed why bring it back at all. Face it, not enough interest for any time slot. 30K viewers? Sorry, most programmes would get more than that from people accidently leaving their televisions on. I'm disappointed, but reality is reality.

[aman201]

Terrible timeslot tbf, it's always ****e at 7pm.

I've only watched it at 11:30pm.

[JohnnyBB]

bunch of twats why cant they just give us it online.

[Kazanne]

It was in a terrible timeslot against Emmerdale, EE and Corrie most nights,I forgot it was on tbh,caught a couple of them and they were boring.10/12 might be a better timeslot.

[oathbreaker]

I think they did it to prove they were right when saying "no one watches live feed".


I can imagine them saying *If we stick it on at a really awkward time where it has no chance in the ratings then its justified in us not running a live stream. Then if we give it no promotion whatsoever its a done deal.

Absolute *****.

Either that or they really are that dumb and don't know how to market or schedule their programming because late nigh live feed still gets over 500k and has even surpassed 1 million on other occasions.

I think they may actually be just a little bit dumb.

Well the night feed at 4--/500k has really buggered that for them.
I totally have no doubt the feeds home and natural place is online
it started off online only (BB1) it was when C4 got fancy ideas it mutated onto TV via the red button.
Channel 5 should have taken it back to the original idea online and even if it was basic 1 camera per room (dedicated feed cam) that was the way forward.

So many angry fans out there this is something C5 really didn't need

[GiRTh]

Livefeed will never get massive figures so for them to use that as an excuse for the axe is taking the p*ss. To put it at 7pm was a daft idea too against soaps then complain about the figures. I'm starting to agree with the people who think it was put on to prove it was'nt needed.

[Dash Darington]

I'm amazed they axed it mid-series.

If they aired it midnight-2:00am like in the US, the content would probably be better, and it would be cheaper to broadcast.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Possibly. But as long as it stays around the same as it is. It will be safe. The overnights have barely moved in the 10pm slot since the beginning which means its consistent. It basically got 1.4m last night (1.35m I think incl +1).

But I agree with the CBB opinions. I can imagine them focusing on all of the CBB aspect and leave BB to die.

No it got 1.35 lol lets not round up to make a sh!tty ratings look slightly less sh!tty.

1.4 is absolute crap.

I think for it to have any chance of survival it would have to get atleast 1.7 just like CSI does in overnights so in officials most shows hit that 2 million mark.

Channel 5 need interest from advertisers who look at the overnights to judge its success and unfortunately not time shifts and officials.

[*mazedsalv**]

Apparently 2 DS members contacted them.

One was told about moving the slot... "No final decision but looking unlikely"
And the other was on the phone to someone from Ch5 who didn't know what to say when challenged with the question about the slot move.

So, to be honest, it looks like Ch5 have no idea what the **** they are doing with their life.

[M X]

smh

[Gillian-73]

Oh fgs! It may only have been 2 hours but it was good (with a couple of nights the exeption). It felt like bb again! This has pissed me right off.

[*mazedsalv**]

No it got 1.35 lol lets not round up to make a sh!tty ratings look slightly less sh!tty.

1.4 is absolute crap.

I think for it to have any chance of survival it would have to get atleast 1.7 just like CSI does in overnights so in officials most shows hit that 2 million mark.

Channel 5 need interest from advertisers who look at the overnights to judge its success and unfortunately not time shifts and officials.

Yes, but Dan, we need to be realistic here :p If BB12-BB13 got 1.2-1.3m overnights and still managed to show the series this year, we can't expect it to magically to jump up to 1.7m overnights at 10pm out of nowhere. Regular BB will never get over 1.6m in the 10pm slot. It's like expecting Eastenders to get the ratings it does in the 10pm slot. Just doesn't work.

Sunday proved it can get 1.6m at 9pm against 2 dramas on the big channels.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Yes, but Dan, we need to be realistic here :p If BB12-BB13 got 1.2-1.3m overnights and still managed to show the series this year, we can't expect it to magically to jump up to 1.7m overnights at 10pm out of nowhere. Regular BB will never get over 1.6m in the 10pm slot. It's like expecting Eastenders to get the ratings it does in the 10pm slot. Just doesn't work.

Sunday proved it can get 1.6m at 9pm against 2 dramas on the big channels.

And that's the reason right there why they will axe it lol.

They admitted that the last 2 summer BB's ratings were disappointed so this year they really pulled it out of the bag with the house ect so obviously it was a last ditch attempt to increase ratings which it hasent.

[Rob!]

Really really not surprised. So does this include the feed after evictions too?
With ratings as low as 9k at times, there was no avoiding this happening.

[Patrick]

They did on purpose everyone is right.

They're absolute wankers. I'm done with them.

Did you guys not hear Rylan the other night talking about Live Feed and he was like 'Boring. And you guys want it 24 hours day? :laugh:'

So they're fully aware of what they're doing.

[Joe.]

****ing awful news.

Nobody even watches 5* anyway!
At least BBUSA starts tonight so we won't have to put up with this bull**** for long- seriously considering ditching this year's BBUK if Gina goes.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

it almost feels like they've done this on purpose, they knew they had to give us LF. So they set it up to fail, and now they can pretend it's not necessary for the show and never have to put it on again.

That's exactly thoughts, I'm absolutely gutted about this I loved watching LF,:devil::bawling: it just shows it was on in the wrong time slot.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Anyway all we can hope for now is an extended post eviction feed.

Even 30 minutes of feed leading up to the eviction show would have rated well.

Its all about them being able to swallow their pride though because if they move its time it looks like they have been incompetent and are admitting they ****ed up.

This way though they can just blame the ratings.

Why have no live feed ratings been released for a while now aswell?

[Marcus.]

but it gone from the 6 of july so let see it till then

[fruit_cake]

in fairness to C5, we have to take the fair share of the blame, I've watched most of the LF sessions so far, but the forum thread has been totally dead with just a few regular posters.

[*mazedsalv**]

And that's the reason right there why they will axe it lol.

They admitted that the last 2 summer BB's ratings were disappointed so this year they really pulled it out of the bag with the house ect so obviously it was a last ditch attempt to increase ratings which it hasent.

Yeah, they may be disappointed by what BB is getting for BB. But it is performing better than the slot averages, share averages and has beaten Channel 4 around 10 times in the last 13 days.

Do you think Ch5 will let BB go because of it's "below average" ratings, only to suffer iun the long term, come 5th in it's slot every night and get sub 1m ratings for every single show except CSI? They NEED BB. BB makes them achieve ratings which place 3rd in it's slot. Without it, they will be the channel being whooped by a very **** Channel 4.

And on the advertisers side, BB has been huge this series for the demographic and has come out on top out of ALL channels. It has only been beaten by The Apprentice and The Voice.

[jackc1806]

They did on purpose everyone is right.

They're absolute wankers. I'm done with them.

Did you guys not hear Rylan the other night talking about Live Feed and he was like 'Boring. And you guys want it 24 hours day? :laugh:'

So they're fully aware of what they're doing.

Yeah that pissed me off, wankers

[Samm]

For ******* sake why can't they Just do 24/7 online

[Gstar]

And what in the world would be their motivation for doing this?:joker:

The feed had been gone for 2 full years already. If they didnt want the feed why bring it back at all. Face it, not enough interest for any time slot. 30K viewers? Sorry, most programmes would get more than that from people accidently leaving their televisions on. I'm disappointed, but reality is reality.

They did it to shut the fans up and purposely put it up against the soaps just so we can look like we're in the wrong.

Now it's just gonna be "We gave it to you but nobody watched it" bullsh*t

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Yeah, they may be disappointed by what BB is getting for BB. But it is performing better than the slot averages, share averages and has beaten Channel 4 around 10 times in the last 13 days.

Do you think Ch5 will let BB go because of it's "below average" ratings, only to suffer iun the long term, come 5th in it's slot every night and get sub 1m ratings for every single show except CSI? They NEED BB. BB makes them achieve ratings which place 3rd in it's slot. Without it, they will be the channel being whooped by a very **** Channel 4.

And on the advertisers side, BB has been huge this series for the demographic and has come out on top out of ALL channels. It has only been beaten by The Apprentice and The Voice.

BB has not boosted the channels share any major way.

Since BB came to Channel 5 in 2011 the overall share for the whole channel initially dropped.

Before BB

2007: 5.3%

2008: 4.6%

2009: 4.8%

2010: 4.5%

BB comes to Channel 5

2011: 4.4%

2012: 4.5%

2013: 4.0% so far.

[Suze]

Saw that coming a mile off, it was just a matter of time before they scrapped it again. I don't think they ever intended keeping it, it was just to pacify the fans for a while imo, and to draw the viewers in before they scrapped it again. So glad I am not bothering with this series at all.

[oathbreaker]

Considering Endemol make a lot of reality TV I think the UK Boss better face some reality he said a few weeks ago BBUK could go at least 50 years.
Not at this rate mate.
Some lousy HM's some very lazy production values and endemol should have made an online feed core of the contract with C5. Ratings are hardly dazzling and the last thing any show needs is angry fans, Ben Frow realised the need to keep the fans online and maybe bring some back.

I don't like corried/EE etc so the time was never a problem for me but asking fans of these soaps to watch the feed instead was never going to work.

[*mazedsalv**]

BB has not boosted the channels share any major way.

Since BB came to Channel 5 in 2011 the overall share for the whole channel initially dropped.

2010: 4.5%

2011: 4.4%

2012: 4.5%

2013: 4.0% so far.

That's as a whole. The shares are so low because of how ****e Ch5 do earlier on. Look at earlier ratings, shows on Ch5 get around 2% in the day. For Big Brother, which gets around 8%-9% in the 10pm slot... it is double the 2013 average. At the moment, only CSI and BB are thrashing the channels share and rating average. They will want to cling onto both CSI and BB with their lives.

Channel 4 have dropped hugely without BB.

[pcro]

****ing awful news.

Nobody even watches 5* anyway!
At least BBUSA starts tonight so we won't have to put up with this bull**** for long- seriously considering ditching this year's BBUK if Gina goes.

True. Of course, with the US version which I grew up with, you're not really watching BB. You're watching Survivor-In-A-House with a large helping of The Bachelor. "Big Brother" isn't even a character on the US version, never heard from or referred to. :joker:

[JohnnyBB]

Ive Just given the asis producer a peace of me mind and she unfollowed me! katie horbury the slaggggggg!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

That's as a whole. The shares are so low because of how ****e Ch5 do earlier on. Look at earlier ratings, shows on Ch5 get around 2% in the day. For Big Brother, which gets around 8%-9% in the 10pm slot... it is double the 2013 average. At the moment, only CSI and BB are thrashing the channels share and rating average. They will want to cling onto both CSI and BB with their lives.

Yes but you would think there would be a much higher yearly share seeing as BB is on ALOT and is thrashing other channels in some timeslots?

Wouldn't that make sense?

Its about long term not just beating some shares on on other channels on some nights and long term nothings really changed for the channel share wise.

I know what your saying with the shows rating low in the daytime but that was the case before BB came to the channel and shares were actually higher back then.

[Suze]

Ive Just given the aasis producer a peace of me mind and she unfollowed me!

:o :laugh2: They know they are out of order or they would not do that to fans.

[jackc1806]

What is Ben Frow's email?

[Smithy]

:joker: :joker: :joker:

[*mazedsalv**]

Yes but you would think there would be a much higher yearly share seeing as BB is on ALOT and is thrashing other channels in some timeslots?

Wouldn't that make sense?

Its about long term not just beating some shares on on other channels on some nights and long term nothings really changed for the channel share wise.

That's the thing, that's how bad Ch5 is doing when BB/CSI is not airing. If you take out both of them out of 2013, the Ch4 overall share will go from 4.0% to like 3.2%. That is not BB performing badly, it isn't in terms of the channel. It's the channel itself performing badly. By the end of 2013, Channel 5 should be at around 4.3%. BB has only been on for 2 weeks.

Shares were better back then anyway, as was ratings. I remember Ugly Betty S1 got around 4.5m-5.0m on Channel 4 before BB7 evictions (or was it after?), 3 years later it was getting 1.5m.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

That's the thing, that's how bad Ch5 is doing when BB/CSI is not airing. If you take out both of them out of 2013, the Ch4 overall share will go from 4.0% to like 3.2%. That is not BB performing badly, it isn't in terms of the channel. It's the channel itself performing badly. By the end of 2013, Channel 5 should be at around 4.3%. BB has only been on for 2 weeks.

So how do you explain these higher figures for Channel 5 before taking on Big Brother?

2007: 5.3%

2008: 4.6%

2009: 4.8%

2010: 4.5%

Higher figures.

[jackc1806]

According to BBXtra, they've replaced it with ...... drumroll please......

ROBSON GREEN'S EXTREME FISHING!:joker:

[Jordan.]

Umm I can't complain since I haven't been watching it anyway. Sucks for fans who did though.

[erinp5]

Big Brother 2013: Live Feed AXED due to poor ratings, will be dropped from schedules next week



June 26th, 2013 by Nick Barnes.


BIG BROTHER: SECRETS & LIES EYE LOGO SUMMER 2013

Big Brother fans, it has happened again… Live Feed has been AXED by Channel 5 and will be removed from schedules as of next week.

Prior to Big Brother returning, it was confirmed that Live Feed would make a comeback on a bigger scale for the new series, but just three weeks into the current series the feed will be scrapped.




The Big Brother live feed currently airs daily on 5* from 7pm-9pm Monday through Saturday, but only airs between 8pm and 9pm on a Sunday evening.

However, due to poor ratings, it has today been revealed that Channel 5 have announced plans to scrap the live feed as of next week.

bigbrother_2013_sittingarea

A spokesperson confirmed: “Big Brother’s live streaming has been removed from the 5* schedule from next week.”

Since Big Brother returned earlier this month, the Live Feed has been put up against the soaps, which receive million of viewers each and with barely any promotion, it doesn’t take Einstein to work out this outcome was inevitable. Live Feed on 5* kicked off with around 60,000 viewers, but has since dropped to around the 35,000 mark.

Back in 2000 when the show launched on Channel 4, viewers had the opportunity to watch Live Feed 24 hours a day and even had the chance to change between different rooms. However, 24-hour feed was dropped not long after. Back in 2008, Channel 4′s red button Live Feed output was cut down due to dwindling ratings.

However, back in 2011, Channel 4 brought back the 24-hour Live Feed for the final series on the channel, in which 1,000 free passes were given out. Otherwise, it cost £0.49 for a day pass, £1.99 for a weekly pass and £14.99 for the whole series.

big brother eye 2013

When Channel 5 took the reins, they confirmed that the 24-hour feed would not be making a return, but last year Live Feed was brought back following big events such as evictions or arrivals. After increasing complaints and petitioning from fans, Channel 5′s new Head of Programming, Ben Frow made the decision to increase the Live Feed output to 2 hours per night, and 1 hour on a Sunday, however, due to falling ratings, the feed has been axed without a second glance.

A full statement is set to be released later today from producers. The Big Brother nightly Live Feed will cease as of 6th July


It was on at the wrong time ,it should have been a later time in the evening imo

[*mazedsalv**]

So without BB how do you explain these figures for Channel 5 before taking on Big Brother?

2007: 5.3%

2008: 4.6%

2009: 4.8%

2010: 4.5%

Higher figures.

Posted it a min ago...

Shares were better back then anyway, as was ratings. I remember Ugly Betty S1 got around 4.5m-5.0m on Channel 4 before BB7 evictions (or was it after?), 3 years later it was getting 1.5m.

You can't find a normal channel (1-5) that has grown since then. The multichannels are (BBC Three, E4), every normal channel is going down. If Channel 5 shows that were on during 2007 aired now, it would get a much worse rating and a lower share.

[Tregard]

They think ratings will rise from cancelling it?

[Patrick]

Big Brother 2013: Live Feed AXED due to poor ratings, will be dropped from schedules next week


However, back in 2011, Channel 4 brought back the 24-hour Live Feed for the final series on the channel, in which 1,000 free passes were given out. Otherwise, it cost £0.49 for a day pass, £1.99 for a weekly pass and £14.99 for the whole series.

big brother eye 2013


It was on at the wrong time ,it should have been a later time in the evening imo

2010.

/facepalm

Why does no one understand Big Brother dates apart from me.

[oathbreaker]

According to BBXtra, they've replaced it with ...... drumroll please......

ROBSON GREEN'S EXTREME FISHING!:joker:

Jeff ford made some huge mistakes
I think Ben Frow will regret this.
personally I would have put it solely online informed people of the change
that its leaving 5* but will be online and told them another 2 hrs would be there after BOTS again online so people got some latenight feed also.

[oathbreaker]

With some really ****ty Housemates C5 really didn't need this grief
that's what makes me suspect the bigger bombshell of normal BB being axed isn't that far away.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Big Brother 2013: Live Feed AXED due to poor ratings, will be dropped from schedules next week



June 26th, 2013 by Nick Barnes.


BIG BROTHER: SECRETS & LIES EYE LOGO SUMMER 2013

Big Brother fans, it has happened again… Live Feed has been AXED by Channel 5 and will be removed from schedules as of next week.

Prior to Big Brother returning, it was confirmed that Live Feed would make a comeback on a bigger scale for the new series, but just three weeks into the current series the feed will be scrapped.




The Big Brother live feed currently airs daily on 5* from 7pm-9pm Monday through Saturday, but only airs between 8pm and 9pm on a Sunday evening.

However, due to poor ratings, it has today been revealed that Channel 5 have announced plans to scrap the live feed as of next week.

bigbrother_2013_sittingarea

A spokesperson confirmed: “Big Brother’s live streaming has been removed from the 5* schedule from next week.”

Since Big Brother returned earlier this month, the Live Feed has been put up against the soaps, which receive million of viewers each and with barely any promotion, it doesn’t take Einstein to work out this outcome was inevitable. Live Feed on 5* kicked off with around 60,000 viewers, but has since dropped to around the 35,000 mark.

Back in 2000 when the show launched on Channel 4, viewers had the opportunity to watch Live Feed 24 hours a day and even had the chance to change between different rooms. However, 24-hour feed was dropped not long after. Back in 2008, Channel 4′s red button Live Feed output was cut down due to dwindling ratings.

However, back in 2011, Channel 4 brought back the 24-hour Live Feed for the final series on the channel, in which 1,000 free passes were given out. Otherwise, it cost £0.49 for a day pass, £1.99 for a weekly pass and £14.99 for the whole series.

big brother eye 2013

When Channel 5 took the reins, they confirmed that the 24-hour feed would not be making a return, but last year Live Feed was brought back following big events such as evictions or arrivals. After increasing complaints and petitioning from fans, Channel 5′s new Head of Programming, Ben Frow made the decision to increase the Live Feed output to 2 hours per night, and 1 hour on a Sunday, however, due to falling ratings, the feed has been axed without a second glance.

A full statement is set to be released later today from producers. The Big Brother nightly Live Feed will cease as of 6th July


It was on at the wrong time ,it should have been a later time in the evening imo

Just had to correct your little mistake there ;)

[JohnnyBB]

with the loss of live feed, raitings will slump too 1.2million, why don't the ****ers axe Aj And Rylan not our Live Feed.

[Rob!]

Poor Ben Frow. His email is going to break.

[ThisIsNickkk]

Just had to correct your little mistake there ;)

Fixed.

[Scream]

what's bens email?

[ThisIsNickkk]

I think it might be a bit late to email Ben now? It's one thing petitioning for it to return and it gets extended, it's another to complain once it has been axed... it won't be coming back now. They tried it and it back fired.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Yes someone please post Bens email.

Don't send abuse coz it seems hes the only sensible one there fighting a bunch of muppets and listening to us fans.

Just make the suggestion of running it online for 2 hours instead of on 5*.

[jackc1806]

Yes someone please post Bens email.

Don't send abuse coz it seems hes the only sensible one there fighting a bunch of muppets and listening to us fans.

Just make the suggestion of running it online for 2 hours instead of on 5*.

I was gonna be like, Ben we trusted you :bawling::bawling:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I just don't understand why we cant have 2 hours on the channel 5 website?

[jackc1806]

I just don't understand why we cant have 2 hours on the channel 5 website?

It's a fair compromise and would increase their web traffic. They even advertised their website after the show last night. They should just put 2 and 2 together - they really are thick as pig ****

[Jase.]

Oh, just **** off, Channel 5.

I'm sure they'll axe the regular BB next in favour of more CBB's

[Marsh.]

FGS, stop tweeting stupid abuse. You give the show and its fanbase even more of a bad name.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

FGS, stop tweeting stupid abuse. You give the show and its fanbase even more of a bad name.

Erm NO

[*mazedsalv**]

I agree about the not sending Frow abuse. But please contact him asking him if there is any way they could move it to another slot, or put it online.

[Valdora]

Bottom line: You bitched and moaned for it...you got it. And then didn't watch. Now its canceled. End of story.

[Marsh.]

Erm NO

:rolleyes:

Then by all means go ahead and squander any chance of anything being done by just throwing childish insults at them.

Being a brat will make your suggestions worth listening to.

[CaudleHalbard]

Bottom line: You bitched and moaned for it...you got it. And then didn't watch. Now its canceled. End of story.

Nicely put! ;)

I watched a bit of LF. Found it utterly tedious. Couldn't bear the damnable bird song etc. Good riddance!

[pcro]

So how do you explain these higher figures for Channel 5 before taking on Big Brother?

2007: 5.3%

2008: 4.6%

2009: 4.8%

2010: 4.5%

Higher figures.

Well, to be fair, commercial television today is about stemming your losses. With the increased splintering of the audience, even comparing numbers from five years ago to today is not on. Channel 5 will judge the relative success of BB by one measure -- whether it makes more profits with it than it can with something else. Viewership figures are part of the stroy but not the whole story. BB comes with a high licensing price tag. It can win its time slot but if the revenue does not adequaely cover the program costs, it's over. Only Channle 5 knows how its doing here. However, off hand, one would guess that a decision to fire the host and jetison much of the production staff suggests that BB may not be doing well enough on the profit front.

[Gillian-73]

in fairness to C5, we have to take the fair share of the blame, I've watched most of the LF sessions so far, but the forum thread has been totally dead with just a few regular posters.

I have to and apart from a few nights i've enjoyed it! Felt like the good old days.

[Jake.]

Honestly can't believe this :(

[daniel-lewis-1985]

:rolleyes:

Then by all means go ahead and squander any chance of anything being done by just throwing childish insults at them.

People are pissed off they will tweet what they wish and no little forum member will stop them from doing so.

So im sorry just ignore it.

[Vanessa]

They should have made it available online.

[Marcus.]

bbspy ‏@bbspy 1m
Looks like eviction night live feed WILL continue - C5 has confirmed a half hour from 11.30pm-midnight (after BOTS) on 12th July #bbuk

[*mazedsalv**]

According someone who has spoken to Ch5 on DS:

They are looking at the possibility of keeping the live feed on the website. I suggested that if the are still going to show the 2 hours why not make it 24/7, or at least a better time than 7-9pm.

[Vanessa]

According someone who has spoken to Ch5 on DS:

They are looking at the possibility of keeping the live feed on the website. I suggested that if the are still going to show the 2 hours why not make it 24/7, or at least a better time than 7-9pm.

I think that's a great idea. I always watched it online anyway. :hugesmile:

[Valdora]

bbspy ‏@bbspy 1m
Looks like eviction night live feed WILL continue - C5 has confirmed a half hour from 11.30pm-midnight (after BOTS) on 12th July #bbuk

Wish they would make that one an hour. That one was always far more entertaining that the afternoon one.

[Jake.]

IF they kept it on the website, then fair enough

[jackc1806]

It annoys me how some members are like 'oh, its **** anyway lol' um the live feed is the whole PREMISE of the show?

[Vanessa]

It annoys me how some members are like 'oh, its **** anyway lol' um the live feed is the whole PREMISE of the show?

If they put it back online then i'm happy.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

They should have made it available online.

It was but they didn't advertise it.

[Vanessa]

It was but they didn't advertise it.

It really winds me up that they do so little promotion. :mad:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'll be really happy if they just stick it online.

They could have a link to their feed via facebook and it fits in with the whole social network aspect the show has gone down.

It all ties in and people online will be chatting about it hence free promotion.

Putting it on 5* up against the soaps was random.

[Marcus.]

cbb it looks like booo

[Brother Leon]

I only really watched the night one. They are doing themselves no favours this year though.

[Vanessa]

I'll be really happy if they just stick it online.

They could have a link to their feed via facebook and it fits in with the whole social network aspect the show has gone down.

It all ties in.

Putting it on 5* up against the soaps was random.

Yes. I always out it on while watching the soaps. :hugesmile:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So will someone please post Ben Frows email?!?!

[Amy Jade]

I stopped watching live feed when Sallie went so it won't personally effect me, you can't blame the channel the ratings were awful but they put it against the soaps. Dumb move to begin with.

[Pronshi]

Did no one see this coming?
Channel 5 purposely put the live feed against the soaps in order to give a reason for the axing.
Plus didn't someone on DS say the had a leaked email confirming the production team had done this from the start and also it was the make sure they could manipulate how the public would like.
In order to make money off people like Spedi etc.

It's a whole sham. Actually thinking about not watching Big Brother anymore. Don't have time for this BS anymore. If I wanna watch a fix and staged bull**** i'll watch X Factor.

[jackc1806]

14 days in though, give it a chance ffs. You can tell they drew up that press release on Launch and they've been waiting to publish it and have Rylan and AJ say 'LOL we h8 l4ve 433d'

[fingers]

They could save much more money by Axing Rylan and his incomprehensible sidekick AJ.

[Munchkins]

I'm at fault as a fan, i didn't watch a single live feed 2 hour... i had other shows to watch at that time slot, why not put it on like 11-12 or something idk

[daniel-lewis-1985]

This is my last tweet to them

@channel5_tv why cant you just put @bbuk live feed online & link it all in with your Twitter & Facebook? That would breed promotion #wiseup

Please someone tell me that doesn't make sense?

[Marsh.]

People are pissed off they will tweet what they wish and no little forum member will stop them from doing so.

So im sorry just ignore it.

:laugh: Where on earth did I expect anyone to listen to me?

I'm giving my opinion which last time I checked is the point of this forum. :shocked:

God forbid anyone disagree with sending childish abuse on twitter about a TV show.

[oathbreaker]

It annoys me how some members are like 'oh, its **** anyway lol' um the live feed is the whole PREMISE of the show?

BB1 was basic but enough the glory days and Greed of C4 ruined the feed.
C5 from the start should have just had a basic feed online not even great quality if cost was an issue something I don't believe for a moment because the whole show is cost.

BOTS costs money but they wont axe that.
The have product placement all over the shop its utter crap they couldn't get companies together and sponsor a feed online it works well in other EU countries and doesn't affect the enjoyment of the show.
C5 never grasped the role a feed plays As a wrote to Ben Frow even if the feed got 50,000 viewers that's 50,000 more than the series last year.

the twitter and website are dire so when that 2hrs ends on the 6th this really will become an hourly/nightly show. :xyxwave:

[MTVN]

Tbh I don't believe that their putting it on in the slot they did was some elaborate ploy to give an excuse to axe it later, just doesn't seem worth the hassle and they're probably receiving a bigger backlash from scrapping it after three weeks then they would if they hadn't commissioned it at all for this series

[JohnnyBB]

Theres Been No Press Release That theyve actually taken these 2 hours away from us.

[Marsh.]

Tbh I don't believe that their putting it on in the slot they did was some elaborate ploy to give an excuse to axe it later, just doesn't seem worth the hassle and they're probably receiving a bigger backlash from scrapping it after three weeks then they would if they hadn't commissioned it at all for this series

But don't you know, it's never as simple as that?

There's always a big conspiracy behind every decision.

[pcro]

I'll be really happy if they just stick it online.

They could have a link to their feed via facebook and it fits in with the whole social network aspect the show has gone down.

It all ties in and people online will be chatting about it hence free promotion.

Putting it on 5* up against the soaps was random.

There's lots of things they COULD do if money was not an object. But the costs assocaited with putting it online are as high as putting it on the air with likley lower revenues. They could charge a subscription, but if only 30k out 2 million BB viewers are watching it for free, how many are going to pay for a subscription? Not enough to make it viable probably.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

:laugh: Where on earth did I expect anyone to listen to me?

I'm giving my opinion which last time I checked is the point of this forum. :shocked:

God forbid anyone disagree with sending childish abuse on twitter about a TV show.

Can you please stop editing this post every 10 seconds.

Thanks.

[Gstar]

I hope they move it to a later slot, NOT on 5*

[oathbreaker]

I'm at fault as a fan, i didn't watch a single live feed 2 hour... i had other shows to watch at that time slot, why not put it on like 11-12 or something idk

It was insane time slot and loads of people that time was impossible
IMHO Bots should have been made into a BBLB type show again and put the feed on directly after h/l show.
I've always been an advocate of the feed being back online its the natural home for it and wont have to worry about the insane ratings such a service gets on Tv sadly ratings do matter.

[Marsh.]

Can you please stop editing this post every 10 seconds.

Thanks.

Yeah, thanks for ignoring the actual content of the post.

I edited it once, but don't let that stop you attempting humour.

[Amy Jade]

They ain't going to put it on subscription online if the viewing figures for the free live feed were bad enough to axe it after 3 weeks lol

[daniel-lewis-1985]

There's lots of things they COULD do if money was not an object. But the costs assocaited with putting it online are as high as putting it on the air with likley lower revenues. They could charge a subscription, but if only 30k out 2 million BB viewers are watching it for free, how many are going to pay for a subscription? Not enough to make it viable probably.

If it was online and linked in with their twitter and facebook it would breed talk and that's priceless promotion ending up in more people interacting with each other over it.

Imagine if this site had a live stream in the corner we would all be tuned in and then add online voting into that and BOOM theres your profit.

Instead they stuck it on 5* up against prime time BBC/ITV and they thought that was a better idea? LOL

[Vanessa]

They ain't going to put it on subscription online if the viewing figures for the free live feed were bad enough to axe it after 3 weeks lol

Then they need to put it at the different time. 7 to 9 is when all the soaps are on.

[fruit_cake]

I agree, the online linked in with FB/Twitter sounds a good idea, whether it'll happen though who knows.

[hijaxers]

Get rid of that casino bollox and put it on 5* late at night. OK that casino bollox may be bringing lots of revenue but if C5 are gonna make a commitment to BB then they have to do something with live feed other than axing it.

I totally agree with you

[Amy Jade]

Then they need to put it at the different time. 7 to 9 is when all the soaps are on.

Move it where though?

[swinearefine]

Will we still have live feed after the live shows :suspect: I'm not even gonna react, I've accepted that the producers are going to make the absolute stupidest decisions concerning every aspect of the show time and time again.

[Amy Jade]

Don't Super Casino sponsor the show? without their show we might not even have BB at all

[Marcus.]

yeah after bots on firdays

[Vanessa]

Move it where though?

I think late at night. 10 to 12. And have it available online as well.

[Roy Mars III]

why not just have it 24hrs a day online and then charge 20 pounds for the whole of the series?

it can't cost that much to do

[fruit_cake]

I don't understand why it's such a big issue for them. They have to film anyway for the H/L's show..? I'm no expert but sure it's just a question of clicking a button somewhere to put it live on air?

[oathbreaker]

Tbh I don't believe that their putting it on in the slot they did was some elaborate ploy to give an excuse to axe it later, just doesn't seem worth the hassle and they're probably receiving a bigger backlash from scrapping it after three weeks then they would if they hadn't commissioned it at all for this series

no the skulduggery I feel is endemol.
No channel 5 the feed really has been coma educing since the weekend
there's clearly been action going on in other areas and they would rather stick with a boring Callum/Twins chat rather than the fun outside.

endemol needed to make sure that 2hrs was the best they could show and I don't believe they have done that for what reason I don't know.

[Vanessa]

why not just have it 24hrs a day online and then charge 20 pounds for the whole of the series?

it can't cost that much to do

That's a good idea.

[fingers]

Move it where though?

Cut half an hour from BBOTS and start The crappy Casino programme an hour later. Better still just scrap BBOTS completely it's kinda rubbishy TV

[Roy Mars III]

That's a good idea.

BBUS has been doing it for 15 years and has worked out well

[Amy Jade]

I would rather BOTS than Live Feed, it's often very dull and just endless images of the surroundings and sounbites of birds.

At least we get exclusives on BOTS

[Amy Jade]

I think late at night. 10 to 12. And have it available online as well.

The BB highlights and BOTS are on between those times though?

[lukee]

Alex Scott TV ‏@MercianMedia 14m
What's been confirmed? Where's this Press Release? #BBUK

[oathbreaker]

That's a good idea.

and even cheaper selling the rights to the feed to a 3rd party.
Like BBUSA does allowing that company to air the feed and charge with endemol/c5 getting a % of that back.

other countries do it no problem and some of the eastern EU countries don't even have a fanbase like the UK. Yet its working for them no problem.
Online compliance would only affect say Dan talking about his job or a HM talking about a relative (the mega personal stuff)
swearing.Nudity,sex would be covered by age restricted log in. all this was confirmed with Ofcom when we asked C4 why no online feed.

what a lot of people didn't realise the BB11 feed wasn't edited for online they still edited the feed under the code for TV transmission hence the daytime swearing was muted etc.

[Vanessa]

The BB highlights and BOTS are on between those times though?

I think have it online on subscription is a better idea.

[Amy Jade]

BBUS has been doing it for 15 years and has worked out well

BBUSA gets 8 million viewers though we don't get anywhere near that to even give the producers the insentive to try online pay feed.

[oathbreaker]

The mockery is anyone with a smart phone can stream online and a big company like C5/endemol are trying to tell people this isn't possible online?

[Amy Jade]

No offence to anyone but I have noticed most of you don't even vote for evictions so would you pay for online feed?

I doubt it.

[oathbreaker]

BBUSA gets 8 million viewers though we don't get anywhere near that to even give the producers the insentive to try online pay feed.

True but a lot of the eastern EU BB's get a lot less than BBUK and they have online and TV feeds because its sponsored to the hilt. okay making the HM's wear T shirts like the Tennis players is a bit much but doesn't seem to affect the quality of the series.

[fruit_cake]

The mockery is anyone with a smart phone can stream online and a big company like C5/endemol are trying to tell people this isn't possible online?

Yes it doesn't really add up to me either, surely the majority of the 'costs' are in the camera staff and the house itself? They have to pay for those anyway. I don't get it.

[JohnnyBB]

i dont think its been axed, production are saying its silly rumours its changed time slots.

[pcro]

The mockery is anyone with a smart phone can stream online and a big company like C5/endemol are trying to tell people this isn't possible online?

Of course its possible. Just not financially viable in Channel 5's opinion. If they could make loads of money of an online subsciption they would do it. Only they know the true bottom line of these things. But at the end of the day they ar ein the business of turning a profit, not launching conspiracies to deprive a handful of people for a live feed.

[Marcus.]

i dont think its been axed, production are saying its silly rumours its changed time slots.

what

[jackc1806]

i dont think its been axed, production are saying its silly rumours its changed time slots.

:joker:

[fingers]

Might be the Fastest U-turn since Stirling Moss retired!

[karezza]

I want late night live feed.

:rolleyes:

[Valdora]

:joker:

If this is true then some people better start writing apology tweets. And people wonder why no one on the show listens to them.

[King Gizzard]

Even with rubbish ratings it just doesn't sit well due to the fact they can manipulate the HL shows even more, we could be watching whatever day for all we know, that and people can't see what HM's are really like and who is actually boring or not

[Euphorae]

They purposely wanted the LF to fail and have terrible ratings from the start. No idea why they would even sabotage their own programme in the first place. If they're just doing this to prove a point....

[billy123]

Secrets and lies you say.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ssd686CqYAg/0.jpg

[oathbreaker]

Of course its possible. Just not financially viable in Channel 5's opinion. If they could make loads of money of an online subsciption they would do it. Only they know the true bottom line of these things. But at the end of the day they ar ein the business of turning a profit, not launching conspiracies to deprive a handful of people for a live feed.

so far there's been no evidence of a proper business model for this service in at least 8 years since C4 axed all premium rate services. A dedicated company that does these things would make it work

[Me. I Am Salman]

such.a.****ing.joke.

[billy123]

http://i.qkme.me/3uzj7s.jpg

[Pronshi]

They ain't going to put it on subscription online if the viewing figures for the free live feed were bad enough to axe it after 3 weeks lol

I ****ING LOVE YOUR SIG!!
<3 Shane.

[Marsh.]

i dont think its been axed, production are saying its silly rumours its changed time slots.

:joker:

Sssh, don't prevent the idiots their chance to throw abuse at them on twitter.

[SillyTilly]

I'm not really surprised that its been axed. I just think they should put it online still even if they can't justify keeping it on TV.

[CaudleHalbard]

It still costs money to put it online.

[Josy]

No offence to anyone but I have noticed most of you don't even vote for evictions so would you pay for online feed?

I doubt it.

Plenty of members on here paid for the online live feed a few years back when we missed out on the free passes, some managed to bag the free passes but the rest of us paid...

[fingers]

TV listings mags will surely all have been printed for 6th July so if it is not in the schedule they must have made the decision to scrap it at about the same time that they failed to promote it!

[lukee]

i got one of the 3 passes but would of paid cause of my love for bb

[ThisIsNickkk]

Might be a bit petulant of me, but if they're getting rid of it, they might as well get rid of it all. I don't even care for the rubbish 22/23 minutes we get after evictions. (30 mins take adverts, take the couple of mins at the end between programme changeover)... What's the point!

[Munchkins]

Right i'm watching live feed for the first time tonight

[daniel-lewis-1985]

i dont think its been axed, production are saying its silly rumours its changed time slots.

Source.

[Patricia4]

Im not shocked Ive got to admit its now boring.

[SillyTilly]

i dont think its been axed, production are saying its silly rumours its changed time slots.
I've checked the updated listings for that week and its not on at any time. It has been axed.

The 30mins live feed after Evictions is still airing though.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

W@nkers

[Marsh.]

Do you mean "wankers"?

[arista]

i dont think its been axed, production are saying its silly rumours its changed time slots.


http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/26/big-brother-live-feed-is-axed-by-channel-5-after-three-week-run-3857847/

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Do you mean "wankers"?

Ooh someones smart.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

They look like a massive failure now and so far the tabloids have yet to comment on low ratings.

Bet they will now.

[Marsh.]

Ooh someones smart.

Thanks.

[Amy Jade]

Plenty of members on here paid for the online live feed a few years back when we missed out on the free passes, some managed to bag the free passes but the rest of us paid...

Yeah plenty of hardcore fans, casual fans would not pay imo, I still doubt people here would either and if they did it would be a minority.

[pcro]

They purposely wanted the LF to fail and have terrible ratings from the start. No idea why they would even sabotage their own programme in the first place. If they're just doing this to prove a point....

Yes, cause this is how a profit making enterprise works. :joker:

[oathbreaker]

Yes, cause this is how a profit making enterprise works. :joker:

best avoid that area really
yes this super amazing company that could only get super casino to be sponsor. they have PP all over the place but not even using that to full effect companies pay thousands for a 30 second ad but they could get 24hrs 10 weeks of non stop product placement and hm's saying how wonderful a product is.

Money is there to be made sadly the imagination isn't, they could give HM's Ipads to walk around the house and stream what its like being in there from that point of view. Or give them an Iphone (or smartphone) to do the same.
follow the HM's you support the most.

use Youtube to put a live stream on there something endemol was planning on doing before C5 bought the rights to the show.

[Kizzy]

What a shame! watching the live feed really shows how bias the edit is... what a shame who watches 5* anyway?...

[Josy]

Yeah plenty of hardcore fans, casual fans would not pay imo, I still doubt people here would either and if they did it would be a minority.

Casual fans tend not to watch LF much anyway I don't really see your point.

[jackc1806]

best avoid that area really
yes this super amazing company that could only get super casino to be sponsor. they have PP all over the place but not even using that to full effect companies pay thousands for a 30 second ad but they could get 24hrs 10 weeks of non stop product placement and hm's saying how wonderful a product is.

Money is there to be made sadly the imagination isn't, they could give HM's Ipads to walk around the house and stream what its like being in there from that point of view. Or give them an Iphone (or smartphone) to do the same.
follow the HM's you support the most.

use Youtube to put a live stream on there something endemol was planning on doing before C5 bought the rights to the show.

Sorry but that is a vile idea :(

[Amy Jade]

Casual fans tend not to watch LF much anyway I don't really see your point.

They're not going to spend the money it would cost to set it all up and moderate the 24 hour feed just for the hardcore viewers willing to shell out. Do they even get a million votes for the winner these days?

If people aren't willing to pay 50p to vote to win or evict I can't see them paying to see birds chirping and garden shots.

[Roy Mars III]

going off something oathbreaker said earlier, the housemates should all wear shirts advertising a certain brand, say specsavers, and in return the company pays for 24/7 internet free live feed.

Problem solved

[Josy]

They're not going to spend the money it would cost to set it all up and moderate the 24 hour feed just for the hardcore viewers willing to shell out. Do they even get a million votes for the winner these days?

If people aren't willing to pay 50p to vote to win or evict I can't see them paying to see birds chirping and garden shots.

But the point is a decent amount would pay, they would still make some money as it wouldn't cost much to stream something that they are already filming 24/7 anyway there's nothing to set up, all they have to do is stream it.....

[Waynoo]

Who was the wise guy who thought 7pm would be a good slot?

[Amy Jade]

If they had a decent amount why did the C4 online feed not pay off then?

[Jake.]

If they had a decent amount why did the C4 online feed not pay off then?

It did? Didn't BB11 have nearly 100K signed up?

[Macie Lightfoot]

It annoys me how some members are like 'oh, its **** anyway lol' um the live feed is the whole PREMISE of the show?

Well it was **** and I've been getting on fine without it so my point is just that I won't particularly miss it.

[Josy]

If they had a decent amount why did the C4 online feed not pay off then?

What? who said it never paid off? :conf:

[Jake.]

Really pissed off now, stupid decisions through-out

[oathbreaker]

Sorry but that is a vile idea :(

those google glasses even.
tbh only mentioned them because of the ease there is now streaming.

[oathbreaker]

What? who said it never paid off? :conf:

apparently they made a big loss on the bb11 feed.
why they gave 1000 free passes away seemed weird at the time
its main reason I paid for the feed when they offered the dirty 30 free passes
after creating hell about it I really wanted it to work.

but again bb11 feed was edited like it was being on TV (daytime swearing muted,no nudity) if they create a feed with the minimum birdsong they will have a winner.

[Euphorae]

I will really miss it :bawling:

LF this year has given the audience a REAL insight into the housemate's personalities. Not to mention all those quotes and hilarious moments that didn't make the HLs.

I guess we will just have to deal with the crappy editing. HAVE IT! :D:D

[Euphorae]

It's not like the production team have done much to promote or boost the Live Feed's ratings. It was doomed to fail from the start. The flawed logic of sabotaging their own programme is beyond human knowledge.