'Respect Your Elders'

[Daffodil]

This phrase has been bandied about in the house by relative youngsters (Dan and Daley). I wish people wouldn't use it. Respect should be earned not given as a rite of passage into elderdom. Some older people are truly obnoxious.
:bawling:

[CaudleHalbard]

People aged 28 and 33 are certainly not elders except maybe to very young children.

[Niamh.]

I think in Dans case it might also be because he was in a job that commanded some respect so he expects that to be carried on now

[Verbal]

An ex-policeman should be shown respect, especially by people younger. I don't care how old they are.

[CaudleHalbard]

Respect has to be earned - unless you are in the workplace where lack of respect for the boss may cost you your job! ;)

[Jamesy]

Surly EVERYONE should be respected?

It annoys me how in today's society you should only 'respect' certain groups or ages. You should bloody respect everyone around you!

[CaudleHalbard]

There are different types of respect.

For some people, respect means: "do as I say, and agree with what I say."

[Niamh.]

There are different types of respect.

For some people, respect means: "do as I say, and agree with what I say."

/Daley

[Verbal]

50 years ago if you disrespected a policeman ex or not you would have had a clip round the ear. Even if he was pararding around on TV half naked all day :nono::joker:

[Brother Leon]

No reason to have to respect a policeman or former policeman. I respect people for them.

[kate2013]

I respect the person who has a valid point. Not because of their age or prior work status. Not all people of a certain age have more wisdom because they have lived longer, some people young people have had to face more life experiences squashed into a small amount of time. What makes someone wiser and so who's way of doing things more respected, is someone who has "learnt" by life experience.

Right...anyone got a ladder for me to climb down off my high horse?

[Livia]

When it comes to respect, I find you tend to get back what you give out.

[smudgie]

When it comes to respect, I find you tend to get back what you give out.

Exactly, respect is a two way street.

[Verbal]

There are such things as 'pillars of the community' who deserve far more respect than your average Joe. Policemen/women fall into that bracket.

[smudgie]

There are such things as 'pillars of the community' who deserve far more respect than your average Joe. Policemen/women fall into that bracket.

Years ago maybe. But I am afraid all the bad eggs have changed people's perceptions of them.Shame really.

[Emmyasdfghjkl]

if someone treat anyone younger or in a lower down job like dirt, then they don't really deserve any respect, considering they gave you none.

[smeagol]

no way should any cop be respected . no way

respect has to be earnt yeah to a certain degree. but lt depends on the person.
someone like jacky is generally up for a laugh likes to smile and is 60 she is more active and fun than the bore sophie for example who acts more like 70, so for her age and to do bb i think she deserves some respect. whether people like her or not .

as for daley well respect your elders thats just weird on a whole new level. he is 4 yrs older than hazel apperently total head case saying something like that.

[Verbal]

no way should any cop be respected . no way

respect has to be earnt yeah to a certain degree. but lt depends on the person.
someone like jacky is generally up for a laugh likes to smile and is 60 she is more active and fun than the bore sophie for example who acts more like 70, so for her age and to do bb i think she deserves some respect. whether people like her or not .

as for daley well respect your elders thats just weird on a whole new level. he is 4 yrs older than hazel apperently total head case saying something like that.

ITT: Exactly what is wrong with today's society

[the truth]

An ex-policeman should be shown respect, especially by people younger. I don't care how old they are.

no more than anyone else

[anne666]

For Dan and Jackie this comment has meant ," Dont disagree with me"Totally misplaced. Respect is a two way street.

[anne666]

no more than anyone else

I agree.

[Indy]

I don't think it's fair to lump Daley and Dan together- they use it in different contexts. Daley uses it to be an abusive asshole. Dan uses it in reference to an arrogant, know-it-all 18 year old who likes to talk out his backside about things he knows squat about to people who have experience and do know what they're talking about.

Jack lecturing Dan on how to cook properly or Joe having a tantrum about (choose a Joe's tantrum of the day to fill in that blank) is disrespectful to the people who are actually cooking for them and cleaning up after them.

[Lee.]

ITT: Exactly what is wrong with today's society

I agree.. There's no respect for aurhority any more, whether it be police, teachers or parents

[Niamh.]

I agree.. There's no respect for aurhority any more, whether it be police, teachers or parents

I agree with that, Police do a very tough job and deserve some respect imo

[anne666]

I have respect for anyone doing there job properly. Outside of that its a personal two way street.

[anne666]

For instance as we have her on the rack today, if Jackie was an ex policewoman would her behaviour be something we should respect. Or is this going down the wrong track.

[joeysteele]

Respect doesn't mean agreeing all the time with others or always either respecting their position and status too.

Just because someone disagrees with another does not mean they disrespect them, if they shout them down or don't listen to what they are saying then that is more like disrespect.
I think in the main,for instance, Dan's main gripe is the way some, like the Twins, shout at him.
He of course has allowed himself to be guilty of the same too at times once things get heated.

Respect has many forms,I respected my Grandparents,as a child rarely speaking until I was brought into the conversation. you do that out of respect for them and also their age.
However they also earned that respect too.
People who just demand respect are as wrong as those being seemingly disrespectful.

Having said that some professions,like the Medical profession, Police, Firemen, Teachers do and should command some level of respect unless they totally abuse their position of authority.

If I had to sum up respect, for me it would be not so much what you 'have' to 'say' or 'do' to someone but it is much more about 'how' you 'say' or 'do' it.
If people try to be reasonable,no matter the issue, then they are more likely to get a more positive response in the main,I think anyway.

[Niamh.]

For instance as we have her on the rack today, if Jackie was an ex policewoman would her behaviour be something we should respect. Or is this going down the wrong track.

That's not exactly what I mean. I don't think Dan deserves respect because he used to be a policeman but I think on duty Policemen walking down the street deserve respect (obviously not if they're abusing their position) because they're out there trying to keep the peace and have to put up with a whole lot of pure disrespect for trying to do that

[smeagol]

The twins have no respect for anybody the way they spoke to dan that day was like wtf
god knows who they think they are. even one of them repeated his name like it means something lol. dan was totally right . they dont have to like him but shouldn't treat him like that. massive lack of respect as a person .

funny watching bb at mo n dan is on saying about it and they dont respect him , oooh thats spooky just turned it on

[Indy]

I think the bigger issue with Dan is he has a child closer in age to the twins than the twins are to his age. Any parent cringes at how the twins behave, and it has to be in Dan's head that if his child ever acted the way they do, he'd be 1) embarrassed and 2) sitting them down immediately to set them straight. The problem is it's not his obnoxious brat running around the house, it's someone else's. That and they're probably too far gone to be helped even if their own parents did finally decide to parent them.

Being in stuck in the house with them has to feel like a gigantic unpaid babysitting job. They want all the perks of being "babies" but then still expect to be able to talk down to people like "peers". They can't have it both ways.

[anne666]

That's not exactly what I mean. I don't think Dan deserves respect because he used to be a policeman but I think on duty Policemen walking down the street deserve respect (obviously not if they're abusing their position) because they're out there trying to keep the peace and have to put up with a whole lot of pure disrespect for trying to do that

Absolutely.

[anne666]

Respect doesn't mean agreeing all the time with others or always either respecting their position and status too.

Just because someone disagrees with another does not mean they disrespect them, if they shout them down or don't listen to what they are saying then that is more like disrespect.
I think in the main,for instance, Dan's main gripe is the way some, like the Twins, shout at him.
He of course has allowed himself to be guilty of the same too at times once things get heated.

Respect has many forms,I respected my Grandparents,as a child rarely speaking until I was brought into the conversation. you do that out of respect for them and also their age.
However they also earned that respect too.
People who just demand respect are as wrong as those being seemingly disrespectful.

Having said that some professions,like the Medical profession, Police, Firemen, Teachers do and should command some level of respect unless they totally abuse their position of authority.

If I had to sum up respect, for me it would be not so much what you 'have' to 'say' or 'do' to someone but it is much more about 'how' you 'say' or 'do' it.
If people try to be reasonable,no matter the issue, then they are more likely to get a more positive response in the main,I think anyway.
Yes I agree with that. I do not feel respect for Jackie because of her overall behaviour towards others.She is disrespectful.

[joeysteele]

Yes I agree with that. I do not feel respect for Jackie because of her overall behaviour towards others.She is disrespectful.

I am with you on that anne666 and just because they are younger than her that should not mean she should automatically expect or get respect unless she shows respect to them as equals.

[Kizzy]

I feel dan has been as respectful as is possible in the house, Jackie however has not...

[boomoo]

An ex-policeman should be shown respect, especially by people younger. I don't care how old they are.

He has gone into the house as a contestant therefore he deserves no more respect than anyone else. Sophie was right when she said he was treating people as if they were children.
I actual find him very juvenile and just cannot see him detecting anything.

[Indy]

He has gone into the house as a contestant therefore he deserves no more respect than anyone else. Sophie was right when she said he was treating people as if they were children.
I actual find him very juvenile and just cannot see him detecting anything.

Jack and Joe are children. "Only 18" is their fallback excuse for everything from being spoiled rotten brats to now knowing how to cook (despite feeling they are qualified to criticize how Dan does it).

[Vanessa]

Dan is not exactly an elder, is he? :joker: