Genuine questions for Sam 'haters'

[Verbal]

Now, I haven't been on this forum for that long, but I think its safe to assume that the large majority of people on here are at least old enough to vote (For the GE not BB) in the UK.

What i'm interested to know is, what part of you thinks that it is acceptable to relay disrespectful comments at a person (Sam) purely on their health?

If some of the derogatory comments I have seen on here had been made by a 12 year old I would just dismiss them as schoolboy silliness. But it seems the vast majority are made by fully grown adults, and this bothers me.

If there was a housemate who was Black, Jewish, Muslim or of any other race/creed/sexuality would you make such low comments based on their history?

The simple fact, is no, because A) it would get you banned instantly, and B) Most probably in trouble with the Law.

What makes it acceptable, to make such comments at Sam and against disability in general?

He is a human being, just the same as you, I and the rest of the HM's and should be treated as such. I've seen some even suggesting that he shouldn't be allowed to take part based purely on his health. This is pure discrimination and should not be allowed, much less even enter the brain of a fully grown adult.

If you cannot come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections, then you have lost the argument before you have even started.

[halfacrown]

The majority of people who have a problem with Sam are saying he's been a dull housemate and are not focusing of his hearing issues. Reading the OP, I feel as though you are pretty close to defining Sam by the hearing issues (which is rather patronising), yet you are asking people to 'come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections'. Sam seems capable of looking after himself and I somehow feel he would not welcome focus on his hearing. Notwithstanding, Sam has failed to make much of a positive impact. He does seem rather immature and sleepy, with very little charisma.

[Verbal]

The majority of people who have a problem with Sam are saying he's been a dull housemate and are not focusing of his hearing issues. Reading the OP, I feel as though you are pretty close to defining Sam by the hearing issues (which is rather patronising), yet you are asking people to 'come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections'. Sam seems capable of looking after himself and I somehow feel he would not welcome focus on his hearing. Notwithstanding, Sam has failed to make much of a positive impact. He does seems rather immature and sleepy, with very little charisma.

The majority of people criticizing him are most certainly not focusing on neutral things such as calling him dull, boring and what not. That I have no problem with. (read that twice) to make sure it sinks in.

I am not defining him in any way. I am pointing a finger at the comments that are aimed at him.

Your entire post is skirting around the issues that I am raising. Please, focus on the points I raise if you are going to comment.

[karezza]

Show me one comment disrespecting sleazy Sam's disability. I dislike him not because he is partially deaf but because he is arrogant, sleazy and thinks the £100,000 is rightfully his.

[Patricia4]

Im not a Sam hater I want Sam to win or Gina, there is nothing wrong with Sam he's a lovely lad and I dont even think about him being deaf his smile wins me over every time.
Ive read some nasty things people have wrote about him to do with his health but to me he's normal and a great guy.

[Patricia4]

Show me one comment disrespecting sleazy Sam's disability. I dislike him not because he is partially deaf but because he is arrogant, sleazy and thinks the £100,000 is rightfully his.

How do you know he thinks the £100,000 is his do you read minds?
Also they all want the cash.

[Indy]

Because, of course, anyone who doesn't want Sam to win is filled with irrational hatred towards him.

[Cherie]

Firstly Sam does not have a "health" issue, he is perfectly healthy. For me if he wins it will be a complete travesty, in some ways he shouldn't reach the final as of those left he has contributed the least, and yes you could argue that he gets lost in the converations and can't contribute, but I have yet to see him on the bike powering the electrics or turning the wheel for the shower, or washing up or cooking or doing anything that doesn't require him to speak or listen, and he doesn't exactly throw himself into tasks. He seems to spend alot of time in the DR flirting and telling weak jokes though, if that makes him a winner then so be it.

[Kyle]

Show me one comment disrespecting sleazy Sam's disability. I dislike him not because he is partially deaf but because he is arrogant, sleazy and thinks the £100,000 is rightfully his.

It's not worth his time or anyone else's trawling through the threads looking for all the derogatory comments that have been posted but it has happened.

I will concede however that most people that dislike Sam give their reasoning fairly and without malice.

[halfacrown]

The majority of people criticizing him are most certainly not focusing on neutral things such as calling him dull, boring and what not. That I have no problem with. (read that twice) to make sure it sinks in.

I am not defining him in any way. I am pointing a finger at the comments that are aimed at him.

Your entire post is skirting around the issues that I am raising. Please, focus on the points I raise if you are going to comment.

Oh I don't think I'm skirting around the issue and I'm quite clear on your post and reading it more than once won't change that!

You are contradicting yourself because at the end you say 'If you cannot come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections, then you have lost the argument before you have even started.' Yet you make no mention of any of Sam's qualities and only talk about his hearing issue!

The rules of these boards are there for all to see and I'm sure the mods are aware of any infringements.

[Maneki-neko]

I don't make fun of him because he's deaf, but lets not pretend he's a "perfect angel rolemodel for kids with disabilities" lets also not pretend that they're are loads of people in the country who would vote for him just because he has a disability rather than the fact that they like him as a housemate.

[billy123]

Im not a Sam hater I want Sam to win or Gina, there is nothing wrong with Sam he's a lovely lad and I dont even think about him being deaf his smile wins me over every time.
Ive read some nasty things people have wrote about him to do with his health but to me he's normal and a great guy.
Full respect to you Patricia
Thats a great post. :thumbs:

[Sandz38]

Now, I haven't been on this forum for that long, but I think its safe to assume that the large majority of people on here are at least old enough to vote (For the GE not BB) in the UK.

What i'm interested to know is, what part of you thinks that it is acceptable to relay disrespectful comments at a person (Sam) purely on their health?

If some of the derogatory comments I have seen on here had been made by a 12 year old I would just dismiss them as schoolboy silliness. But it seems the vast majority are made by fully grown adults, and this bothers me.

If there was a housemate who was Black, Jewish, Muslim or of any other race/creed/sexuality would you make such low comments based on their history?

The simple fact, is no, because A) it would get you banned instantly, and B) Most probably in trouble with the Law.

What makes it acceptable, to make such comments at Sam and against disability in general?

He is a human being, just the same as you, I and the rest of the HM's and should be treated as such. I've seen some even suggesting that he shouldn't be allowed to take part based purely on his health. This is pure discrimination and should not be allowed, much less even enter the brain of a fully grown adult.

If you cannot come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections, then you have lost the argument before you have even started.

Sam has stated that he wants to show what deaf people can achieve. I know many people with disabilities and this post is ridiculous and here is why.

1, most people with a disability want to be treated normal and this is a well known fact..

2, anyone treating a disabled person differently can be in serious trouble for discrimination ( I know this its my job )

3, Sam knows he is going to be spoken about its a show he has grown up with do you think this shouldn't happen because he is deaf?

:) good morning forum

[Marmalite]

Show me one comment disrespecting sleazy Sam's disability. I dislike him not because he is partially deaf but because he is arrogant, sleazy and thinks the £100,000 is rightfully his.



:shocked: Sorry but what show are you watching? I do think some of the remaining HM's think the £100,000 is rightfully theirs, but Sam definitely isn't one of those.

Please back up your comments with exactly how Sam is proving that he thinks the £100,000 is rightfully his?

Dexter bangs on and on and on about how hard he's had it in the house for the last 7/8 weeks constantly. If that's not blatenly saying that the money and win should be his because "he's had it the hardest out of all the HM's", then I don't know what is!

[Cherie]

Sam has stated that he wants to show what deaf people can achieve. I know many people with disabilities and this post is ridiculous and here is why.

1, most people with a disability want to be treated normal and this is a well known fact..

2, anyone treating a disabled person differently can be in serious trouble for discrimination ( I know this its my job )

3, Sam knows he is going to be spoken about its a show he has grown up with do you think this shouldn't happen because he is deaf?

:) good morning forum

All excellent points.

[smeagol]

i dont hate him at all , but without doubt he and sophie are two of the most boring housemates to ever appear on big brother and have no right at all to win or make the final.
i cannot stand sympathy votes i said it launch night he will win , i said the same with luke a and the torrents guy though he was fun so a good winner. but sam has done nothing

what i do hate is bandwagon jumpers and the sympathy vote i think its insulting really
people should be judged on their actions and personality not anything else.

all this liking someone cause their fav likes them or liking them cause he is brave cause he is half deaf etc. that really annoys me. and its wrong
as i said before the real brave people are the ones doing the 9-5 with disabilities not the ones chasing fame and fortune on television shows. all in the name of a good cause.
big brother is a reality entertainment show not a charity

[steviebhoy]

His disability has absolutely nothing to do with why i dislike him, and i think it's unfair to say people are disliking him for that reason too,

He's a complete bore who contributes almost nothing to the show and does not deserve to win on that basis,

He should have been out weeks ago!!!

[Kyle]

His disability has absolutely nothing to do with why i dislike him, and i think it's unfair to say people are disliking him for that reason too,

He's a complete bore who contributes almost nothing to the show and does not deserve to win on that basis,

He should have been out weeks ago!!!

The public had their chance to get rid but they chose not to. Can't argue with that Son.

[JTM45]

As others have said, please show us these posts that are hating on Sam purely because he has a hearing problem because i haven't seen any (maybe i've missed them ?).:shrug:

I actually find your post quite insulting and extremely patronising. It's just a poor attempt at gaining more sympathy for Sam and a cheap shot at anyone who has legitimate reasons for disliking or not supporting Sam.:nono:

[karezza]

I have heard Sam on live feed mention Pete BB7 and Mikey on BB9. So he has the sympathy vote on his mind.

[Vladimir]

I dislike him because he's dull and has done nothing in the house.

[Daffodil]

I have never used Sam's deafness as a reason to dislike him. However here the reasons I have stated on a few occasions why he should be evicted:
1. Indolent
2. Foul-Mouthed
3. Sexist
4. Rude
5. Spends more time asleep/dozing/biting his nails than doing anything constructive.
6. Insular and reserved except in the diary room.

There! Not one mention of his deafness.
:pipe: :idc: :bored:

[Kyle]

I have never used Sam's deafness as a reason to dislike him. However here the reasons I have stated on a few occasions why he should be evicted:
1. Indolent
2. Foul-Mouthed
3. Sexist
4. Rude
5. Spends more time asleep/dozing/biting his nails than doing anything constructive.
6. Insular and reserved except in the diary room.

There! Not one mention of his deafness.
:pipe: :idc: :bored:

There it is look. :joker:

[Kazanne]

The majority of people who have a problem with Sam are saying he's been a dull housemate and are not focusing of his hearing issues. Reading the OP, I feel as though you are pretty close to defining Sam by the hearing issues (which is rather patronising), yet you are asking people to 'come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections'. Sam seems capable of looking after himself and I somehow feel he would not welcome focus on his hearing. Notwithstanding, Sam has failed to make much of a positive impact. He does seem rather immature and sleepy, with very little charisma.

There is a certain minority on here that are furious that he had a go at Dexter,simple as , and they will use any means to try and diss him,even unfortunately his health as a partial deaf person myself,it is hard to be around a babbling crowd sometimes its best to keep out of conversations just incase I say the wrong thing and it ends up embarrassing,so people need to know this may be due to him being a bit quiet,as for him being boring,I am struggling to find what the others have done that is so 'exciting' so ,Sam is imo as alert as the others its just he is not bitching and smarming around so doesn't get the highlights.

[Tozzie]

Because, of course, anyone who doesn't want Sam to win is filled with irrational hatred towards him.

I don't agree Indy, I feel hatred for no one, its immature and childish to 'hate' on a big brother contestant, its a television gameshow, why would you hate someone you've never met. I can see why you would make this post though because there are a lot of people whose posts scream of hatred and the way some carry on you'd think they murdered someone. Hate is a terrible emotion to have. I would rather use the word dislike and I dislike Sam because I find him cocky and boring and nothing to do with his hearing at all. Anyone who would be nasty over his hearing difficulties should be ashamed of themselves. Most of the reasons for people not liking Sam is because he's been proper boring

[Kazanne]

I have never used Sam's deafness as a reason to dislike him. However here the reasons I have stated on a few occasions why he should be evicted:
1. Indolent
2. Foul-Mouthed
3. Sexist
4. Rude
5. Spends more time asleep/dozing/biting his nails than doing anything constructive.
6. Insular and reserved except in the diary room.

There! Not one mention of his deafness.
:pipe: :idc: :bored:

1= Not so he is pretty lively on LF and perhaps a lot of times he doesn't get shown
2= So are most of the others
3= He's a young man,most of them are
4= Not noticed any sign of this
5= Not so again,better picking nails than noses(dexter likes a good root)
6 =Not so insular that he didn't tell certain ones to their faces

and finally,you mentioned his deafness:hugesmile:

[karezza]

The biggest crime a Big Brother housemate can commit is to be boring. Thou shalt not be boring. Sam is boring. To be boring is unforgivable.

[Kyle]

The biggest crime a Big Brother housemate can commit is to be boring. Thou shalt not be boring. Sam is boring. To be boring is unforgivable.

I don't believe in your religion so he hath not comitted blasphemy in my church your eminence. :dance:

[karezza]

I don't believe in your religion so he hath not comitted blasphemy in my church your eminence. :dance:

The Ten Commandments of Big Brother:

1. Thou shalt not be boring
2. Thou shalt not spend all day in bed
3. Thou shalt not pretend to be nice
4. Thou shalt not play for the sympathy vote
5. Thou shalt not cry at every opportunity
6. Thou shalt not go to bed before midnight
7. Thou shalt not avoid confrontation
8. Thou shalt not say you are bored
9. Thou shalt not consider walking out
10. Thou shalt not keep quiet

Amen

[KingOfTheMods]

Anything I say about Sam is based on the fact that I don't like him due to his general twattishness, nowt to do with him being partially deaf.

[Tozzie]

The Ten Commandments of Big Brother:

1. Thou shalt not be boring
2. Thou shalt not spend all day in bed
3. Thou shalt not pretend to be nice
4. Thou shalt not play for the sympathy vote
5. Thou shalt not cry at every opportunity
6. Thou shalt not go to bed before midnight
7. Thou shalt not avoid confrontation
8. Thou shalt not say you are bored
9. Thou shalt not consider walking out
10. Thou shalt not keep quiet

Amen

:laugh: hilarious hahahahaha

[Kyle]

The Ten Commandments of Big Brother:

1. Thou shalt not be boring
2. Thou shalt not spend all day in bed
3. Thou shalt not pretend to be nice
4. Thou shalt not play for the sympathy vote
5. Thou shalt not cry at every opportunity
6. Thou shalt not go to bed before midnight
7. Thou shalt not avoid confrontation
8. Thou shalt not say you are bored
9. Thou shalt not consider walking out
10. Thou shalt not keep quiet

Amen


Does that mean I am a follower of the anti-brother? :devil:

I hope Tozzie doesn't burn me at the stake for my blatant heresy!

[karezza]

Does that mean I am a follower of the anti-brother? :devil:

I hope Tozzie doesn't burn me at the stake for my blatant heresy!

The Anti-Housemate (Sam) has violated several of those sacred commandments and will burn for all eternity in Big Brother Hell.

:devil:

[halfacrown]

There is a certain minority on here that are furious that he had a go at Dexter,simple as , and they will use any means to try and diss him,even unfortunately his health as a partial deaf person myself,it is hard to be around a babbling crowd sometimes its best to keep out of conversations just incase I say the wrong thing and it ends up embarrassing,so people need to know this may be due to him being a bit quiet,as for him being boring,I am struggling to find what the others have done that is so 'exciting' so ,Sam is imo as alert as the others its just he is not bitching and smarming around so doesn't get the highlights.

The results of Sam's 'having a go' at Dexter and Sophie are highly contentious, as is the argument over what constitutes 'exciting' behaviour in a housemate: people see very different things in the same programme. Some people thought Sam was brave and strong, others that he was hypocritical and immature!

I think that Sam's hearing issues have made his time in BB a bit of a challenge, but it is not an environment for shrinking violets. However, his issues are not insurmountable. My own father was deaf (his choice of word) and in addition never learnt to write but he was a clever and charismatic man who was successful in business, and in the part of London where he operated, he was as famous as Frank Sinatra: everybody knew him and had a story about him. The last thing anybody would have defined him by was his deafness.

[Kazanne]

The Ten Commandments of Big Brother:

1. Thou shalt not be boring
2. Thou shalt not spend all day in bed
3. Thou shalt not pretend to be nice
4. Thou shalt not play for the sympathy vote
5. Thou shalt not cry at every opportunity
6. Thou shalt not go to bed before midnight
7. Thou shalt not avoid confrontation
8. Thou shalt not say you are bored
9. Thou shalt not consider walking out
10. Thou shalt not keep quiet

Amen

That doesn't sound like Sam at all to me,some major fabrications there:hugesmile:

[karezza]

That doesn't sound like Sam at all to me,some major fabrications there:hugesmile:

Sam violates at least half of the Big Brother Commandments - that is unforgivable.

:nono:

[Kazanne]

The results of Sam's 'having a go' at Dexter and Sophie are highly contentious, as is the argument over what constitutes 'exciting' behaviour in a housemate: people see very different things in the same programme. Some people thought Sam was brave and strong, others that he was hypocritical and immature!

I think that Sam's hearing issues have made his time in BB a bit of a challenge, but it is not an environment for shrinking violets. However, his issues are not insurmountable. My own father was deaf (his choice of word) and in addition never learnt to write but he was a clever and charismatic man who was successful in business, and in the part of London where he operated, he was as famous as Frank Sinatra: everybody knew him and had a story about him. The last thing anybody would have defined him by was his deafness.

He's 23,I'm sure as he gets older he will learn how to handle what comes before him.

[DanaC]

Sorry, but Cynicalhermit is right: there are many derogatory comments in here about the lad's hearing problems, up to and including suggestions that the hearing impaired should not be 'allowed' to enter BB.

Any liking or support for Sam is shot down with accusations of 'sympathy' for his disability, as if that is the only reason anybody would supprt him. Others make regular references to him being a dead cert to win because of his disability. In short: he is talked about by some people almost exclusively in terms of his disability.

[Kyle]

Sam violates at least half of the Big Brother Commandments - that is unforgivable.

:nono:

Ah priests Kazanne, always preaching to us lay folk, it's disgraceful so it is. :spin:

[KingOfTheMods]

Sorry, but Cynicalhermit is right: there are many derogatory comments in here about the lad's hearing problems, up to and including suggestions that the hearing impaired should not be 'allowed' to enter BB.

Any liking or support for Sam is shot down with accusations of 'sympathy' for his disability, as if that is the only reason anybody would supprt him. Others make regular references to him being a dead cert to win because of his disability. In short: he is talked about by some people almost exclusively in terms of his disability.

Sorry but there are some overly sensitive people in here, people take offence too easy these days. I woke up the other night and saw some one taking a load of wood out of my garden but I didn't say anything in case he took a fence. Badum tish. I'm here all week.

[smeagol]

The Anti-Housemate (Sam) has violated several of those sacred commandments and will burn for all eternity in Big Brother Hell.

:devil:


lol :joker:

[smeagol]

Sorry but there are some overly sensitive people in here, people take offence too easy these days. I woke up the other night and saw some one taking a load of wood out of my garden but I didn't say anything in case he took a fence. Badum tish. I'm here all week.


lol thats funny i like that :joker:

[KingOfTheMods]

lol thats funny i like that :joker:

I try precious ;)

[Benjamin]

The majority of people who have a problem with Sam are saying he's been a dull housemate and are not focusing of his hearing issues. Reading the OP, I feel as though you are pretty close to defining Sam by the hearing issues (which is rather patronising), yet you are asking people to 'come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections'. Sam seems capable of looking after himself and I somehow feel he would not welcome focus on his hearing. Notwithstanding, Sam has failed to make much of a positive impact. He does seem rather immature and sleepy, with very little charisma.

I said this the other day to him. Most people dislike Sam because he is dull, not because he is hard of hearing.

[DanaC]

They may dislike him because he is dull, but a lot of people frame their comments with reference to his disability. His nickname is now 'sympathy vote Sam'

Someone asked CH for examples. Here are a few.

Sam is rude he thinks hi:sleep:s disability allows it. He has been vile to Sophie

After all, he was constantly a**se-licking Callum so how did he find a way out to crawl out from his backside and stay in. Sam the mindless follower of Callum shouldn't even be in there.

He can't even hear what people say. Ridiculous to have someone like that in the show. It's tough for someone with a disability but not realistic on a show where communication is so important.

If you want to win big brother just become disable, cut off your limbs and enter the house and the public will feel sorry for you.This is what is happening with Sam because he has a hearing problem.He entered the house and knows what to expect and people should stop saying ahhh he is finding difficult to join the group and into conversation. People should not vote a winner on emotion but on merit and SAM done nothing to entertain me.Pete had tourette in previous BB and he won by merit because he was funny and entertaining to watch.Sam find it difficult and spent most of the time sleeping.Well you chose to enter BB and you find it hard then you should just leave and the same time he is quite rude to dex because his pal callum is gone.

Lets be honest on day 1 when he used his 'hilarious' catchphrase about his winky expanding that was all he had to offer really. Hes been riding the sympathy vote ever since and ive never liked the boy much.

obvious winner from the start same as luke a.
you need to be boring with with a medical issue to gain sympathy then the prize is yours

Sympathy vote Sam is a terrible housemate. Please don't let him win!


There are more, and I think there are worse, but I haven't the time or energy to do a more thorough search.

[MrWong]

Sorry, but Cynicalhermit is right: there are many derogatory comments in here about the lad's hearing problems, up to and including suggestions that the hearing impaired should not be 'allowed' to enter BB.

Any liking or support for Sam is shot down with accusations of 'sympathy' for his disability, as if that is the only reason anybody would supprt him. Others make regular references to him being a dead cert to win because of his disability. In short: he is talked about by some people almost exclusively in terms of his disability.

I've seen a couple of posts saying that but only in reference to hm's with a disability automatically getting the sympathy vote.

The bookies know this too about the general public which is why he's been one of the favourites for most of the series, even tho for the majority of the time he's been in a coma.

He was in the top half of all polls despite doing **** all and barely being shown for 6 weeks, above hm's like Dan, Callum and Hazel.

[Withano]

Can you quote a couple? I'm a Sam fan but I've never seen anything inappropriate about him.

[Withano]

They may dislike him because he is dull, but a lot of people frame their comments with reference to his disability. His nickname is now 'sympathy vote Sam'

Someone asked CH for examples. Here are a few.












There are more, and I think there are worse, but I haven't the time or energy to do a more thorough search.

Ohh, brilliantly found. Thess are disgusting and I agree with the OP, they shouldn't be allowed on the forum

[KingOfTheMods]

They may dislike him because he is dull, but a lot of people frame their comments with reference to his disability. His nickname is now 'sympathy vote Sam'

Someone asked CH for examples. Here are a few.

There are more, and I think there are worse, but I haven't the time or energy to do a more thorough search.

Most of those don't even qualify as taking the piss out of his disability. They are merely pointing out that he has a disability and some people think that automatically qualifies someone as a good person. It doesn't, I come from a large family and I have cousins and nieces/nephews with disabilities ranging from Down Syndrome to Autism. They are just as much arseholes as the rest of us when they want to be and it's got frig all to do with their disability.

[Withano]

Most of those don't even qualify as taking the piss out of his disability. They are merely pointing out that he has a disability and some people think that automatically qualifies someone as a good person. It doesn't, I come from a large family and I have cousins and nieces/nephews with disabilities ranging from Down Syndrome to Autism. They are just as much arseholes as the rest of us when they want to be and it's got frig all to do with their disability.

All of the posts she quoted were disgusting and cruel. Every one of them would have been posted differently had he not have the condition.

[lime]

Anything I say about Sam is based on the fact that I don't like him due to his general twattishness, nowt to do with him being partially deaf.

:worship::worship::worship:
And also if Callum or dexter had talked about having an erection whilst watching the girls shower they would have been villified .A couple of nights ago the twins were laughing at the fact Sam was staring at Hazel's boobs ,when she realised she covered them with her hands.Sam then asked her to move her hand so that he could again stare at them but this is apparantely acceptable because he is partially deaf:shocked:

[Chuckyegg]

This is the only moderated place I've seen where its ok to take the mickey out of fat people and deaf people.

[Videostar]

I haven't said a word about Sam's "health" as you put it.

If anything his supporters like Sam simply because of his life story as there isn't anything else to like about him.


I keep asking Sam fans why do they support him, what has he done that deserves the 100k and they NEVER ANSWER.

[Videostar]

This is the only moderated place I've seen where its ok to take the mickey out of fat people and deaf people.

No one has made fun of Sam over his deafness...please give us evidence that im wrong?

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

I hate him because he is boring, dull and also for this....

Sam To Knives Assistant 'Flash Your G**h For Free Pie & Mash'

Wolfy on BB Couch Potatoes talking about Sam last Wednesday. Apparently Sam shouted to the Female knive assistant during Gina's task
'Flash Your Gash For Free Pie & Mash'

Hear it here around the 61:00 mark.

http://www.spreaker.com/user/drdetroit/bbuk_2013_wolfy

[KingOfTheMods]

All of the posts she quoted were disgusting and cruel. Every one of them would have been posted differently had he not have the condition.

You really think they were 'disgusting and cruel'. I guess I've got thicker skin than most and certainly a lot thicker than you if you think they were disgusting and cruel. Some people have obviously got a sensitivity g-spot.

[KingOfTheMods]

This is the only moderated place I've seen where its ok to take the mickey out of fat people and deaf people.

I got taken the mickey out of for being Irish when I was growing up. Who cares, I was Irish. The twins are fat, Sam is deaf it's just banter for the most part. People who are overly sensitive should not watch BB or come on here.

[lime]

[QUOTE=Chuckyegg;6250224]This is the only moderated place I've seen where its ok to take the mickey out of fat people and deaf people.[/QUOTEI

I have never seen anyone on this forum take the mikey out of Sam because of his hearing problems...I have however seen them take the mikey about Hazel's evil eyes ,Gina's skin condition, Twins obesity .Dexter's been small and Callum being creepy .NEVER once have I seen anyone mock Sam because of his hearing problems.

[hijaxers]

He is a boring dullard - no personality - not tried to associate with many of the others and i'm fed up with the disability arguments - either way he's a crap HM and does not deserve to win !

[Verbal]

No one has made fun of Sam over his deafness...please give us evidence that im wrong?

Dana (thank you Dana) has trawled the posts and has given several examples of what I am talking about. I would also like to add several threads I have memory of where certain posters where mimicking the way he speaks to construct their posts.

Chuckyegg This is the only moderated place I've seen where its ok to take the mickey out of fat people and deaf people.

That ^ also winds me up as well. If they were making holocaust jokes about Jews it would not be tolerated, and rightly so.

[KingOfTheMods]

Dana (thank you Dana) has trawled the posts and has given several examples of what I am talking about. I would also like to add several threads I have memory of where certain posters where mimicking the way he speaks to construct their posts.



That ^ also winds me up as well. If they were making holocaust jokes about Jews it would not be tolerated, and rightly so.

Bar two, none of them were offensive. You're reaching.

[Verbal]

[QUOTE=Chuckyegg;6250224]This is the only moderated place I've seen where its ok to take the mickey out of fat people and deaf people.[/QUOTEI

I have never seen anyone on this forum take the mikey out of Sam because of his hearing problems...I have however seen them take the mikey about Hazel's evil eyes ,Gina's skin condition, Twins obesity .Dexter's been small and Callum being creepy .NEVER once have I seen anyone mock Sam because of his hearing problems.
Well here's one example

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231088&highlight=

[lime]

[QUOTE=lime;6250272]
Well here's one example

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231088&highlight=

Wow .On an internet forum you found one with 3/4 replies to it so let's stick with the conclusion that Sam get's the mikey taking out of him because of his hearing problems.:idc:

[James]

Well here's one example

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231088&highlight=

I have now deleted that thread. No-one has reported it before. That user has had a lot of posts deleted.

[Verbal]

[QUOTE=CynicalHermit;6250387]

Wow .On an internet forum you found one with 3/4 replies to it so let's stick with the conclusion that Sam get's the mikey taking out of him because of his hearing problems.:idc:

That is one of many, which Dana has kindly pointed out earlier in this thread. My question was how/why do grown adults feel it acceptable to make these sort of comments?

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=lime;6250442]

That is one of many, which Dana has kindly pointed out earlier in this thread. My question was how/why do grown adults feel it acceptable to make these sort of comments?

Evidence please of micky taking of Sam's hearing problems.?

[Verbal]

[QUOTE=CynicalHermit;6250450]

Evidence please of micky taking of Sam's hearing problems.?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Read Dana's post earlier, the one I linked to which has now been deleted is another one. If I could be arsed to search I could find quite a few that i've been witness to.

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=Videostar;6250462]

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Read Dana's post earlier, the one I linked to which has now been deleted is another one. If I could be arsed to search I could find quite a few that i've been witness to.

Oh dear.

[Verbal]

[QUOTE=CynicalHermit;6250470]

Oh dear.
http://t.qkme.me/3qj9fs.jpg

[Johnnyuk123]

The biggest crime a Big Brother housemate can commit is to be boring. Thou shalt not be boring. Sam is boring. To be boring is unforgivable.

Agreed :joker::joker::joker:

[Verbal]

Oh there he is look, the original creator of exactly what i'm talking about. Johnny, you're on my ignore list btw, so I am not going to respond.

[Kazanne]

Ah priests Kazanne, always preaching to us lay folk, it's disgraceful so it is. :spin:

get the name right you blaggard else ye shall be walking the next plank:joker:

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=Videostar;6250472]
http://t.qkme.me/3qj9fs.jpg

Lack of evidence is wrong with me...not EVER hearing from Sam supporters why he should win is wrong with me...you know, just facts that is what im interested in...that's all.

[Verbal]

[QUOTE=CynicalHermit;6250478]

Lack of evidence is wrong with me...not EVER hearing from Sam supporters why he should win is wrong with me...you know, just facts that is what im interested in...that's all.

You played that game yesterday, I practically wrote an essay in answer to you, which I am not going to repeat. You have been given examples, one of which has been removed since I flagged it up. What does that tell you? That i'm exactly right, thats what.

[Vanessa]

I can never support someone who spends most of the time sleeping. :sleep:

[KingOfTheMods]

Oh there he is look, the original creator of exactly what i'm talking about. Johnny, you're on my ignore list btw, so I am not going to respond.

Never mind petal you're obviously sensitive. I'll keep you by my side with my superhuman might, Kryptonite.

[Verbal]

Before I get accused of conveniently avoiding certain posts. Kingofthemods I refer you to my post to Johnny, it applies to you also.

[James]

You played that game yesterday, I practically wrote an essay in answer to you, which I am not going to repeat. You have been given examples, one of which has been removed since I flagged it up. What does that tell you? That i'm exactly right, thats what.

The poster of the removed thread made a lot of trollish or potentially offensive comments about a lot of housemates, not just Sam.

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=Videostar;6250493]

You played that game yesterday, I practically wrote an essay in answer to you, which I am not going to repeat. You have been given examples, one of which has been removed since I flagged it up. What does that tell you? That i'm exactly right, thats what.

I haven't been given any examples at all, as for your link, it doesn't work so I haven't seen what you claim has been "micky taking of Sam's deafness".

Even if there has been any horrible comments about Sam's hearing problems I haven't been one of them, I don't like dull HM's and I don't think those like Sam should be allowed a free pass to the final (if not winning) simply because "you respect him"...which in my opinion is the same as the sympathy vote...INVALID REASONS.

[Kyle]

[QUOTE=CynicalHermit;6250478]

Lack of evidence is wrong with me...not EVER hearing from Sam supporters why he should win is wrong with me...you know, just facts that is what im interested in...that's all.

Does it matter that the Sam supporters have to give you a reason for wanting him to win, I'm not asking you for your reasoning behind your favourite that's up to you.

[Verbal]

The poster of the removed thread made a lot of trollish or potentially offensive comments about a lot of housemates, not just Sam.

Which brings us back to my question, why/how do grown adults feel it is acceptable to say these things?

[Verbal]

[QUOTE=CynicalHermit;6250497]

I haven't been given any examples at all, as for your link, it doesn't work so I haven't seen what you claim has been "micky taking of Sam's deafness".

Even if there has been any horrible comments about Sam's hearing problems I haven't been one of them, I don't like dull HM's and I don't think those like Sam should be allowed a free pass to the final (if not winning) simply because "you respect him"...which in my opinion is the same as the sympathy vote...INVALID REASONS.

Ok, you're trolling me. I'm out. Last time - read Dana's post where she lists a few examples. The link as i've told you was removed for the exact reasons I created this thread.

Cya

[Black Dagger]

I don't 'hate' Sam because he's 'deaf' not in the slightest, I don't even hate him, he's one of the nicest, most decent guys to enter the house, but you can be nice and entertaining and he's been a zzzz fest for 8 weeks and now decides to start speaking up and whining because his friend has gone? Nah it's too late.

[Kyle]

[QUOTE=CynicalHermit;6250497]

I haven't been given any examples at all, as for your link, it doesn't work so I haven't seen what you claim has been "micky taking of Sam's deafness".

Even if there has been any horrible comments about Sam's hearing problems I haven't been one of them, I don't like dull HM's and I don't think those like Sam should be allowed a free pass to the final (if not winning) simply because "you respect him"...which in my opinion is the same as the sympathy vote...INVALID REASONS.

Invalid because you say so right? If somebody wants to support Sam in support of his deafness I don't care just like I wouldn't care if someone supported Dexter because he had the same name or Gina because of her ethnicity.

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=Videostar;6250493]

Does it matter that the Sam supporters have to give you a reason for wanting him to win, I'm not asking you for your reasoning behind your favourite that's up to you.

It's obvious why people want Dexter to win, or Gina, or even the The Twins...they have added to the shows entertainment in one way or another...Sam hasn't added anything at all, so my question to Sam supporters is a valid one....what has Sam done to deserve winning if it has nothing to do with his life story?

[KingOfTheMods]

[QUOTE=Videostar;6250528]

Ok, you're trolling me. I'm out. Last time - read Dana's post where she lists a few examples. The link as i've told you was removed for the exact reasons I created this thread.

Cya

You can quote your own comments but not somebody else's? Dick move and if anyone is a troll it's probably located on these coordinates once I've gone.

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=Videostar;6250528]

Invalid because you say so right? If somebody wants to support Sam in support of his deafness I don't care just like I wouldn't care if someone supported Dexter because he had the same name or Gina because of her ethnicity.

So why don't they just admit that's why they want him to win, a sympathy and patronising vote for him, IMO.

We should be past this nonsense by now, surely...wanting someone to win because they have a life story, or they are black, or white, male or female, or they are from the same town as me....none of those reasons are valid.

[Kyle]

[QUOTE=Simple Minds;6250530]

It's obvious why people want Dexter to win, or Gina, or even the The Twins...they have added to the shows entertainment in one way or another...Sam hasn't added anything at all, so my question to Sam supporters is a valid one....what has Sam done to deserve winning if it has nothing to do with his life story?

I have explained my personal reasons multiple times now and it's getting tiring, I want him to win because he is the housemate that is most like me, I like his demeanour and little quips he comes out with, his laid back attitude and lack of drama he causes, if you don't think that's valid enough reasons then I'm sorry that's not my problem.

[Verbal]

[QUOTE=Videostar;6250528]

Invalid because you say so right? If somebody wants to support Sam in support of his deafness I don't care just like I wouldn't care if someone supported Dexter because he had the same name or Gina because of her ethnicity.

I am not supporting him 'because' he is deaf. I am supporting him because I respect how he has been able to adapt. People are just plain refusing to understand that.

The only other HM that I have had respect for was Dan due to him previously being a police officer. The threads on here about him and the 'I will never respect a Copper' comments, just say it all.

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=Videostar;6250541]

I have explained my personal reasons multiple times now and it's getting tiring, I want him to win because he is the housemate that is most like me, I like his demeanour and little quips he comes out with, his laid back attitude and lack of drama he causes, if you don't think that's valid enough reasons then I'm sorry that's not my problem.

Fair enough, if they are the reasons then that's your choice.

I could argue with those reasons but I have a different idea as to what a decent HM is.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

[Videostar]

[QUOTE=Simple Minds;6250537]

I am not supporting him 'because' he is deaf. I am supporting him because I respect how he has been able to adapt. People are just plain refusing to understand that.

The only other HM that I have had respect for was Dan due to him previously being a police officer. The threads on here about him and the 'I will never respect a Copper' comments, just say it all.

He's had a whole life time to adapt, he isn't suddenly adapting since he entered the house, do you think he wants to be treated this way? isn't it better to treat him the same as everyone else.?

And it's unfair on the other HM's who luckily haven't had the same things to overcome as he has, Sam had an unfair advantage from the start in regards to being highly thought of for the reasons you come up with, so his dodgey behaviour gets largely overlooked because of that.

[Kyle]

Exactly videostar if we all agreed this forum would be a joke. I respect your opinions please respect mine.

[Kyle]

What's going on with the quoting its getting mixed up we are all quoting different people's responses with different names on, :conf:

[Verbal]

He's had a whole life time to adapt, he isn't suddenly adapting since he entered the house, do you think he wants to be treated this way? isn't it better to treat him the same as everyone else.?

And it's unfair on the other HM's who luckily haven't had the same things to overcome as he has, Sam had an unfair advantage from the start in regards to being highly thought of for the reasons you come up with, so his dodgey behaviour gets largely overlooked because of that.

Look, I like HM's because they are interesting, decent people and have led interesting lives and deal with challenges on a daily basis.

You like HM's because you find them playing 'its a knockout' type games amusing, despite them being total arseholes.

We're clearly operating on two different intellectual levels. If the show returned to the format that it was in BB1 I guess you would lose interest, where I would welcome it.

Just let it be, cos you are getting as tedious as the man in your avatar.

[Videostar]

Exactly videostar if we all agreed this forum would be a joke. I respect your opinions please respect mine.

I do respect yours, I respect that you are the first Sam supporter to at least answer my question, and I thank you for that.

[Videostar]

Look, I like HM's because they are interesting, decent people and have led interesting lives and deal with challenges on a daily basis.

You like HM's because you find them playing 'its a knockout' type games amusing, despite them being total arseholes.

We're clearly operating on two different intellectual levels. If the show returned to the format that it was in BB1 I guess you would lose interest, where I would welcome it.

Just let it be, cos you are getting as tedious as the man in your avatar.

If it wasn't for Nasty Nick from BB1 there wouldn't have ever been a BB2 onwards...so the gameplayers are important to the shows survival...if the BB house was full of Sam or Sophie's of this world no one would be watching.

[MB.]

Well that was a fun read.

[Verbal]

If it wasn't for Nasty Nick from BB1 there wouldn't have ever been a BB2 onwards...so the gameplayers are important to the shows survival...if the BB house was full of Sam or Sophie's of this world no one would be watching.

Yes they would. I would. Its just you would have actual newspapers covering it with people discussing real issues, rather than having the glorified toilet paper that is the Daily Star covering it.

[Videostar]

I never read the newspapers, The Daily Star isn't even worth rubbing against my backside.

[Videostar]

Yes they would. I would. Its just you would have actual newspapers covering it with people discussing real issues, rather than having the glorified toilet paper that is the Daily Star covering it.

What is the one HM still remembered from BB1? be honest. ;)

[Kyle]

I do respect yours, I respect that you are the first Sam supporter to at least answer my question, and I thank you for that.

Ok thank you.

[Jack_]

Well anyone that's made comments about his hearing difficulties needs to take a long hard look at themselves because as much as I may dislike the guy as a housemate, that's just pathetic. Having said that I can't exactly say I've seen any comments made about his hearing anyway so...

But his disability isn't the reason I don't value him as a housemate and if he wasn't a ****ing bore it wouldn't be the reason I'd like him either. Look, he's done **** all all series and would categorically be the worst winner ever, perhaps of anything ever shown on British TV. Just because he's had one minor disagreement with Dexter (in which he was in the right, that I will concede) it doesn't mean he should now automatically be given victory just because for some unknown reason on here housemates that actually contribute to the series are seen as the antichrist.

He is a bore. He hasn't contributed anything all series. He would be a ****ing dreadful winner. Discussion closed.

[Brother Leon]

Evidence of people hating Sam due to his condition???

People who hate Sam aren't like the majority of Anti Dexter peeps who make fun of his size or appearance regularly. We just find Sam dull as ****.

[KingOfTheMods]

Look, I like HM's because they are interesting, decent people and have led interesting lives and deal with challenges on a daily basis.

You like HM's because you find them playing 'its a knockout' type games amusing, despite them being total arseholes.

We're clearly operating on two different intellectual levels. If the show returned to the format that it was in BB1 I guess you would lose interest, where I would welcome it.

Just let it be, cos you are getting as tedious as the man in your avatar.

Wow u r kewl. As tolerant as you want everyrone else to be.

[DanaC]

I haven't said a word about Sam's "health" as you put it.

If anything his supporters like Sam simply because of his life story as there isn't anything else to like about him.


I keep asking Sam fans why do they support him, what has he done that deserves the 100k and they NEVER ANSWER.

Sorry but that just isn't true. You simply choose not accept their answers. I know this because in the thread asking people why they like Sam I gave my answers.

I said:

I like Sam, more as the show progresses. His one liners are funny and he seems the kind of person who doesn't rise easily to anger, but will absolutely stand their ground if pushed. He also stands by his friends. True loyalty is an admirable quality. To keep hold of that in such an environment is a good thing.

But mostly I like him because each time I've seen him come out of himself he's shown himself to be thoughtful, funny, and creative.


I then later said:

The expanding winkie jest was one line weeks ago but that gets rolled out as the prime example of his humour.

There've been loads of one liners that have made me laugh. I think my favourite was 'he's so rude he'd make an onion cry'.

His humour is mainly low key and easy to miss if you aren't looking out for it. He has an excellent way with words.

For all that he's young and there are lots of things he doesn't know, on raw intelligence I think he's one of the cleverest people in there. Not clever as in games player, but clever as in astute.


I gave those answers because of this post by you:

I keep asking Sam supporters this and they either never answer the question or give sarcy answers.

I would love to hear genuine reason as to why he should win.

You seemed to genuinely want to hear why people liked/supported Sam.

Now. You can disagree with that all you like, it doesn't change the fact that reasons were offered for liking Sam. To suggest that you keep on asking but people NEVER answer is an untruth. You may not like the answers, but that's really not the point is it?


One final point: Cynical Hermit offered, amongst several reasons, the fact that he was impressed with the way Sam had handled certain things within the house. Saying you impressed with how someone deals with some of the difficulties associated with a disability is not the same as saying you support them because of their disability, or that you support them out of sympathy for their disability. But: that gets picked up and twisted into 'sympathy vote Sam' and the rest of the reasoning gets ignored.

[DanaC]

Evidence of people hating Sam due to his condition???

People who hate Sam aren't like the majority of Anti Dexter peeps who make fun of his size or appearance regularly. We just find Sam dull as ****.

Maybe you don't make comments of that ilk, but plenty do. And personally I find the comments about Dexter's size and the twin's obesity just as unpleasant. same with comments suggesting that because Dan was camp he shouldn't have been accepted into the police force.

The fact that people make nasty comments about Dexter's physical appearance does not make it ok that other people make nasty comments about Sam's disability. They don't cancel each other out ffs.

[Indy]

I don't agree Indy, I feel hatred for no one, its immature and childish to 'hate' on a big brother contestant, its a television gameshow, why would you hate someone you've never met. I can see why you would make this post though because there are a lot of people whose posts scream of hatred and the way some carry on you'd think they murdered someone. Hate is a terrible emotion to have. I would rather use the word dislike and I dislike Sam because I find him cocky and boring and nothing to do with his hearing at all. Anyone who would be nasty over his hearing difficulties should be ashamed of themselves. Most of the reasons for people not liking Sam is because he's been proper boring

You apparently missed my point completely. I was pointing out the incredibly rude ASSumption of the OP.

[Verbal]

Videostar, you have officially been Dana'd

:dance::lovedup:

[Vicky.]

The broken quotes in this thread are giving me forum OCD but my net is too slow today to sort them all out :bored:

The only time I personally have seen posts about sams hearing is when people say things like 'he will win because he is deaf'. I dont think this is too unfair an assumption to make..Nadia, Pete, Luke A..all won for being 'different'. Yeah some may argue that they would have won anyway, but it does seem like if you have some kind of disability you are more likely to do well and have your bad behaviors 'excused'. Steve from bb11 was opening night fave IIRC. Why? Well I cant think of anything that set him aside from the rest besides his disability.

Posts taking the piss out of Sam for being deaf are against the rules, report them. I see james has already commented in here about that. But posts saying that he gets preferential treatment (for want of better words)from voters..I dont think theres a problem with those, as it does seem that way :shrug:

[Verbal]

The broken quotes in this thread are giving me forum OCD but my net is too slow today to sort them all out :bored:

The only time I personally have seen posts about sams hearing is when people say things like 'he will win because he is deaf'. I dont think this is too unfair an assumption to make..Nadia, Pete, Luke A..all won for being 'different'. Yeah some may argue that they would have won anyway, but it does seem like if you have some kind of disability you are more likely to do well and have your bad behaviors 'excused'. Steve from bb11 was opening night fave IIRC. Why? Well I cant think of anything that set him aside from the rest besides his disability.

Posts taking the piss out of Sam for being deaf are against the rules, report them. I see james has already commented in here about that. But posts saying that he gets preferential treatment (for want of better words)from voters..I dont think theres a problem with those, as it does seem that way :shrug:

I will make more of an effort to report them in future. As i've said i've no problem with people who give genuine reasons for not liking him. It also annoys me when people say it is a sympathy vote, whilst not against the rules its patronising.

[Indy]

I will make more of an effort to report them in future. As i've said i've no problem with people who give genuine reasons for not liking him. It also annoys me when people say it is a sympathy vote, whilst not against the rules its patronising.

I do believe that's the point - Sam is being patronized to the end. It's not people who observe it who are condescending, it's those who are actually doing it. Even worse when those who observe it are labeled ridiculous exaggerations like "hater".

[Videostar]

Sorry but that just isn't true. You simply choose not accept their answers. I know this because in the thread asking people why they like Sam I gave my answers.

I said:



I then later said:



I gave those answers because of this post by you:



You seemed to genuinely want to hear why people liked/supported Sam.

Now. You can disagree with that all you like, it doesn't change the fact that reasons were offered for liking Sam. To suggest that you keep on asking but people NEVER answer is an untruth. You may not like the answers, but that's really not the point is it?


One final point: Cynical Hermit offered, amongst several reasons, the fact that he was impressed with the way Sam had handled certain things within the house. Saying you impressed with how someone deals with some of the difficulties associated with a disability is not the same as saying you support them because of their disability, or that you support them out of sympathy for their disability. But: that gets picked up and twisted into 'sympathy vote Sam' and the rest of the reasoning gets ignored.

Dana, im sorry if I missed your answers, im constantly flitting between threads, or maybe I went offline, I assure you I didn't mean to ignore your replies.

But I stand by my opinions that Sam isn't being judged on the same playing field as so called abled bodied HM's..and someone on here on their sig says they want Sam to win because they "respect" him...that IMO is clearly because of his disability, again, I say that's an invalid reason to want someone to win and walk off with a life changing 100k.

[Videostar]

Videostar, you have officially been Dana'd

:dance::lovedup:

Im now very sheepish. :blush2:

[Verbal]

Dana, im sorry if I missed your answers, im constantly flitting between threads, or maybe I went offline, I assure you I didn't mean to ignore your replies.

But I stand by my opinions that Sam isn't being judged on the same playing field as so called abled bodied HM's..and someone on here on their sig says they want Sam to win because they "respect" him...that IMO is clearly because of his disability, again, I say that's an invalid reason to want someone to win and walk off with a life changing 100k.

For about the hundredth time, respect for how he is doing it. Just because you disagree with it, it does not make it 'invalid'. I've given reasons over and over and over. You choose to ignore them or call them invalid. They're my reasons, they have nothing to do with sympathy, they are the reasons people up and down the country will vote for him, and they are the reasons he will win.

[Kyle]

Im now very sheepish. :blush2:

Don't worry videostar its alright, now come over to the light and join the Sam side. :devil:

[Videostar]

Don't worry videostar its alright, now come over to the light and join the Sam side. :devil:

Im not that sheepish. :joker:

[Videostar]

For about the hundredth time, respect for how he is doing it. Just because you disagree with it, it does not make it 'invalid'. I've given reasons over and over and over. You choose to ignore them or call them invalid. They're my reasons, they have nothing to do with sympathy, they are the reasons people up and down the country will vote for him, and they are the reasons he will win.

I respect that that is your reasons, I just disagree with them.

I just wish entertainment came into this a little bit more.

[Kyle]

Im not that sheepish. :joker:

:joker:

Worth a try. :spin:

[Videostar]

:joker:

Worth a try. :spin:

:evilgrin:

[Verbal]

I respect that that is your reasons, I just disagree with them.

I just wish entertainment came into this a little bit more.

We have a breakthrough! :joker:

[Videostar]

At least Sam will be able to buy himself a nice king size comfy bed if he wins. :thumbs2:

[DanaC]

W00t! I've become a verb!

*grins*

@ Videostar: that's fair enough m'dear. No harm no foul :)

[Johnnyuk123]

i dont hate him at all , but without doubt he and sophie are two of the most boring housemates to ever appear on big brother and have no right at all to win or make the final.
i cannot stand sympathy votes i said it launch night he will win , i said the same with luke a and the torrents guy though he was fun so a good winner. but sam has done nothing

what i do hate is bandwagon jumpers and the sympathy vote i think its insulting really
people should be judged on their actions and personality not anything else.

all this liking someone cause their fav likes them or liking them cause he is brave cause he is half deaf etc. that really annoys me. and its wrong
as i said before the real brave people are the ones doing the 9-5 with disabilities not the ones chasing fame and fortune on television shows. all in the name of a good cause.
big brother is a reality entertainment show not a charity

I agree with this 100% The lads done nowt and needs to go.