So Dexter Can't Have Children

[Ace]

In another of their heated relationship conversations Dexter said he would happily marry Charlie and have artificial insemination with her.

This would mean he can't have children unaided. Well this would explain the thing he was trying to tell her secretly last week and his bits do seem to be very small.

Dropping it into a conversation like this at such a late stage in the show must mean he wants the public to know and the only reason for that is he wants sympathy votes.

As a PR person (allegedly) I think he could have played the entire game better with this Pièce de résistance up his sleeve.




Here's the video:

http://bb3.channel5.com/c5/article/v...arlie-Travers/

[Josy]

Its Charlie that can't have children, she had to have an ovary removed due to cancerous cells and even if she did conceive she doesn't know if she can carry a child to full term.

[Scream]

What is PR btw? I've never known...

[lippyzippy]

wow I didn't know that about Charlie.....awww bless her

[Jordan.]

Dexter said he would happily marry Charlie and have artificial insemination with her

Wait wat http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/2095c354.gif

Far more creepy than anything Callum ever said.

[Spoon]

Its Charlie that can't have children, she had to have an ovary removed due to cancerous cells and even if she did conceive she doesn't know if she can carry a child to full term.

Yes, her mother disclosed this for her.

[Ace]

Its Charlie that can't have children, she had to have an ovary removed due to cancerous cells and even if she did conceive she doesn't know if she can carry a child to full term.

I see thanks for clarrifying that. In that case it seems very cruel to play on something so serious and personal.

[Josy]

What is PR btw? I've never known...

Public Relations

Wait wat http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/2095c354.gif

Far more creepy than anything Callum ever said.

:joker:

[reece(:]

Wait wat http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/2095c354.gif

Far more creepy than anything Callum ever said.
If that's the only way she can conceive I don't see how it could be "creepy" whatsoever.

[lippyzippy]

Dear me. That's an area I wouldn't go to. I love Charlie again. I knew shed had problems I wasn't aware of this. Im welling up got to go now

[CaudleHalbard]

Its Charlie that can't have children, she had to have an ovary removed due to cancerous cells and even if she did conceive she doesn't know if she can carry a child to full term.

Jackie spoke about this in the heated argument with another hm (Jemima?) very early on.

It was the same one where she said that Charlie's grandmother died in her arms or somesuch.

[Jordan.]

If that's the only way she can conceive I don't see how it could be "creepy" whatsoever.

It's creepy of him to be saying stuff about that with a girl who doesn't even fancy him....

[Ace]

What is PR btw? I've never known...


PR = public relations = advertising and promotion.

[Vicky.]

Wait wat http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/2095c354.gif

Far more creepy than anything Callum ever said.

Does seem a very strange thing to say. Any context to this? Dont remember it at all :laugh:

Also how the hell do you get that blue smiley to work?! I have been trying to use it (with the link) for ages now and it just comes up blank for me :mad:

[Josy]

Jackie spoke about this in the heated argument with another hm (Jemima?) very early on.

It was the same one where she said that Charlie's grandmother died in her arms or somesuch.

Yes Jackie did say this but that's not where I found out about it, I read about it elsewhere.

If that's the only way she can conceive I don't see how it could be "creepy" whatsoever.

It is creepy Reece, very.

These people don't know each other, not really, they know very little if anything of each others backgrounds, families, they aren't even in a relationship ffs.

Callum would have been ripped to shreds on here if he said that to Charlie

[Josy]

I hope they actually show this on the highlights I want to see how it got to that point in the conversation.

[Lister of Smeg]

Its Charlie that can't have children, she had to have an ovary removed due to cancerous cells and even if she did conceive she doesn't know if she can carry a child to full term.

Thats really sad :bawling:

[Vicky.]

I hope they actually show this on the highlights I want to see how it got to that point in the conversation.

Oh right, it hasnt been shown yet, would explain why I havent seen it :laugh:

Context is very important here, as its a very strange thing to come out with D:

[Josy]

Oh right, it hasnt been shown yet, would explain why I havent seen it :laugh:

Context is very important here, as its a very strange thing to come out with D:

Well at least I don't think it has? If it has I completely missed it :suspect:

[Miranda123]

In another of their heated relationship conversations Dexter said he would happily marry Charlie and have artificial insemination with her.

This would mean he can't have children unaided. Well this would explain the thing he was trying to tell her secretly last week and his bits do seem to be very small.

Dropping it into a conversation like this at such a late stage in the show must mean he wants the public to know and the only reason for that is he wants sympathy votes.

As a PR person (allegedly) I think he could have played the entire game better with this Pièce de résistance up his sleeve.

Would this be the secret he was gonna tell Charlie before she got on the sofa for eviction, and then didnt?

Or would it be the secret that he told everyone they would find out when he gets out?

His 'secret' seems to be that he doesnt have a secret lol

And more importantly than that.....why would anyone care? Do you really think Charlie wants to have kids with him when she clearly doesnt fancy him??

This is just another attempt at trying to make him a sympathetic character

I for one, dont care whether he can have kids or not? why would I?

He knows Sam has destroyed him and he is desperately trying to hold on to what he thinks is a sure win
I wouldnt be surprised if he tells the HM's tonight that he has a terminal illness

This man would sell his soul, if he had a soul to sell

YOU GOT OWNED DEXTER BOY!

[CaudleHalbard]

His 'secret' seems to be that he doesnt have a secret lol




It was all for the cameras. If you had seen it on LF it would have been even more obvious. The edited version we got may have been a little misleading.

There is no secret.

[Miranda123]

Does seem a very strange thing to say. Any context to this? Dont remember it at all :laugh:

Also how the hell do you get that blue smiley to work?! I have been trying to use it (with the link) for ages now and it just comes up blank for me :mad:

He has definetly outweirded Callum with this one

he seems to have no barriers when it comes to other peoples personal space, the girl has said she doesnt fancy him and not only is he insinuating that she is lying, he is now talking about her medical issues in the context of being prepared to get her pregnant through a tube????

OMG as Gina would say

It doesnt matter what context this was in, even if she brought it up and said I will have to do it like that if I want kids, he has NO right to say that to her at all, dirty little weasel!

[sampvt]

He cant have kids because Sam owns his minerals, lol.

[Jordan.]

Also how the hell do you get that blue smiley to work?! I have been trying to use it (with the link) for ages now and it just comes up blank for me :mad:

I don't know, maybe it's photobucket :laugh: Uploaded it to imgur so it should work for you now - http://i.imgur.com/Lo2Ays6.gif

[Miranda123]

He cant have kids because Sam owns his minerals, lol.

YES!

Think they shrunk back up into his little boys body when Sam was carving him a new one lol

[Vicky.]

http://i.imgur.com/Lo2Ays6.gif

Thanks :D

[Ace]

Does seem a very strange thing to say. Any context to this?

Here's the video:

http://bb3.channel5.com/c5/article/video/Day-66-Dexter-I-love-you-Charlie-Travers/

[Josy]

That was um completely random..

[Tozzie]

Its Charlie that can't have children, she had to have an ovary removed due to cancerous cells and even if she did conceive she doesn't know if she can carry a child to full term.

it is possible to get pregnant with only one ovary? I had an ectopic pregnancy many years ago and had a fallopian tube and ovary removed and I got pregnant again, I miscarried but all the same it is still possible.

[erinp5]

Big Brother contestant Charlie Travers has opened up about having her cervix and an ovary removed after two cancer scares, saying that she "100% would not be alive" if she had waited to be screened at the recommended age of 25.

The receptionist, who entered the house with her mother Jackie, said she auditioned for the show because she wanted to "embrace life to the max" after her health issues.



"I've had quite a tough time in the last seven years health-wise and now I feel I can embrace life to the max," she told New. "When I was 15 I had my left ovary removed because I had a gigantic cyst that was about to explode.

"During a smear test [at the age of 24] in 2011, they found my entire cervix was covered in pre-cancer of the highest grade.

"I had most of my cervix completely removed, but three or four months later I went for a check-up and it had all come back, so I had to have it all taken out.

"If I hadn't gone for an early smear and had waited until I was 25, I 100% would not be alive."




Charlie and Jackie Travers enter the Big Brother house


Asked if she is still able to have children, Travers replied: "I can conceive naturally, but I'm not sure if I can carry a baby full term."

59-year-old Jackie echoed her daughter's comments about why they went on Big Brother, saying: "We had been through quite hard times with Charlie's health problems and now we're over that we wanted to start afresh".

[Vicky.]

That was um completely random..

I cant watch it because Gremlins is on and I have no headphones and CBA going upstairs. But I know you are fair usually so I will take your word for it :laugh:

Yes thats a very strange and creepy thing to say IMO if it was utterly random

[Josy]

it is possible to get pregnant with only one ovary? I had an ectopic pregnancy many years ago and had a fallopian tube and ovary removed and I got pregnant again, I miscarried but all the same it is still possible.

Yes it is possible I worded that last post wrong I should have posted she doesn't think she can have children (that's her words) but she doesn't know if it will happen naturally and even if she does she doesn't know if she can go full term.

[AnnieK]

it is possible to get pregnant with only one ovary? I had an ectopic pregnancy many years ago and had a fallopian tube and ovary removed and I got pregnant again, I miscarried but all the same it is still possible.

Sorry to hear that Tozzie

Was going to say this ^ Having an ovary removed wouldn't mean she can't carry to term either. It's a tough thing to deal with (I've been there) thinking you can't have children but the reality is no one knows if they can have children until they try and although she may have been told she might not be able to have children doesn't mean she can't and it is a bit creepy and a little patronising of Dexter to bring it up on national TV.

[Tozzie]

Sorry to hear that Tozzie

Was going to say this ^ Having an ovary removed wouldn't mean she can't carry to term either. It's a tough thing to deal with (I've been there) thinking you can't have children but the reality is no one knows if they can have children until they try and although she may have been told she might not be able to have children doesn't mean she can't and it is a bit creepy and a little patronising of Dexter to bring it up on national TV.

thanks Annie, I'm fine, I've comforted myself all these years that it just wasn't meant to be. I am lucky enough to have one child, many are not so lucky. x

[erinp5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNU6HsDl8nk
HNU6HsDl8nk

[Josy]

I cant watch it because Gremlins is on and I have no headphones and CBA going upstairs. But I know you are fair usually so I will take your word for it :laugh:

Yes thats a very strange and creepy thing to say IMO if it was utterly random

Dexter - If I don't think of you in that way then why the **** am I still bothered and why am I still chasing you like a little lost puppy

Charlie - Because.......I (the I is dragged out in normal Charlie style)

They are still talking here but the shot goes to Gina and Sam in the tree house listening to them

Charlie - I care because I adore you

Dexter - I don't I don't care, I would quite happilly be in a relationship with you, ****ing possibly even ****ing marry you you can have ****ing artificial ins....

Cuts back to Gina and Sam laughing and Sam says he wishes he had some confetti to throw over them.

20 Minutes later..

Charlie - What a waste of time then, can't believe I even wasted my breath talking about that again to you, to the housemates, up there.

Dexter - Thanks

Charlie - What do you mean thanks, shut up.

Charlie goes on to say they are incredibly lucky to be here and screw worrying about things, Dexters intentions how he feels about her etc....

Dexter - Do you want me to end it? end your confusion here and now

Charlie - No - Yeah actually no I do want to hear it, is it what you were going to tell me before we sat on the sofas because that ****ing pissed me off aswell

Dexter - At the end of my speech whatever what I was going to say was that, that I truly love you Charlie Travers

Charlie - Ohhh shut up




Right after pausing and playing that constantly to type that up ^^^

I'm wondering if Charlie was the one to initially bring that up, that's what this could mean:

Charlie - What a waste of time then, can't believe I even wasted my breath talking about that again to you, to the housemates, up there.

If that's the case then that could be why Dexter said what he did about the artificial imsemination....

[Marmalite]

OMG. I'm so ****ing bored of this showmance now!

Yeah.... Dexter is so entertaining. :sleep:

[Lex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNU6HsDl8nk
HNU6HsDl8nk

Creepy, my arse!..that was the truest most tender moment in bb history!...the lad is head over heals about her!...I've known this for weeks! ...And the doubters are just being nasty about someone they don't understand! :nono:

[boomoo]

I see thanks for clarrifying that. In that case it seems very cruel to play on something so serious and personal.

He goes beyond the pale in his effort to win.
If he is a Public Relations man he needs not to air someone's personal life in this way and that goes for Charlie's mother too.

Also he seems not to be aware that Charlie is not interested in him sexually, she has said there is no attraction that way so why is he talking about having babies with her?
Obcene.

[boomoo]

Creepy, my arse!..that was the truest most tender moment in bb history!...the lad is head over heals about her!...I've known this for weeks! ...And the doubters are just being nasty about someone they don't understand! :nono:

But how many times does Charlie have to tell him she is not interested, only as a friend.
He keeps on because he appeals to viewers like you.

[boomoo]

Yes it is possible I worded that last post wrong I should have posted she doesn't think she can have children (that's her words) but she doesn't know if it will happen naturally and even if she does she doesn't know if she can go full term.

Well it is Charlie talking here. When does she ever give a straight answer to anything?

'She doesn't think she can'. This means she has no idea.

A doctor said to me it is impossible for you to be pregnant. How wrong was he.
You absolutely don't know until you are in the process of trying.
If this convo on either side was for air time that is really bad form.

[Jesus.]

In another of their heated relationship conversations Dexter said he would happily marry Charlie and have artificial insemination with her.

This would mean he can't have children unaided. Well this would explain the thing he was trying to tell her secretly last week and his bits do seem to be very small.

Dropping it into a conversation like this at such a late stage in the show must mean he wants the public to know and the only reason for that is he wants sympathy votes.

As a PR person (allegedly) I think he could have played the entire game better with this Pièce de résistance up his sleeve.




Here's the video:

http://bb3.channel5.com/c5/article/v...arlie-Travers/

I see thanks for clarrifying that. In that case it seems very cruel to play on something so serious and personal.

So basically, whatever the reason he said that is, he's in the wrong?

[Lex]

But how many times does Charlie have to tell him she is not interested, only as a friend.
He keeps on because he appeals to viewers like you.

You've obviously never had to woo a young lady over! :nono:

[Vanessa]

That was so cute! Love Dexter! :lovedup:

[Videostar]

Big Brother contestant Charlie Travers has opened up about having her cervix and an ovary removed after two cancer scares, saying that she "100% would not be alive" if she had waited to be screened at the recommended age of 25.



After 9 weeks in the house she chooses two days before the final to "open up" about this....Charlie's got game, i'll give her that.

[actor99]

Yes I read this as well. her problem with cancer. hope all works out for her. in the long run. that's why I hate all the horrible things said about her. ok if they don't like her. that fine. but just leave it at that..

[mr rochester]

[QUOTE=Ace;6298506]


As a PR person (allegedly) I think he could have played the entire game better with this Pièce de résistance up his sleeve.




Ah - that's where he keeps it - typical Dexter...

[Daffodil]

Having one ovary does not make a woman infertile... she will still produce an egg every month with her good ovary, so God knows why Dexter has brought up artificial insemination ... he could get still get her pregnant the conventional way (god help us). As many other people have said the whole convo is very strange indeed. No-one in that house knows each other well enough to even consider being parents.

:pipe:

[Vanessa]

Having one ovary does not make a woman infertile... she will still produce an egg every month with her good ovary, so God knows why Dexter has brought up artificial insemination ... he could get still get her pregnant the conventional way (god help us). As many other people have said the whole convo is very strange indeed. No-one in that house knows each other well enough to even consider being parents.

:pipe:

:joker:

[mr rochester]

In another of their heated relationship conversations Dexter said he would happily marry Charlie and have artificial insemination with her.

This would mean he can't have children unaided. Well this would explain the thing he was trying to tell her secretly last week and his bits do seem to be very small.

Dropping it into a conversation like this at such a late stage in the show must mean he wants the public to know and the only reason for that is he wants sympathy votes.

As a PR person (allegedly) I think he could have played the entire game better with this Pièce de résistance up his sleeve.




Here's the video:

http://bb3.channel5.com/c5/article/v...arlie-Travers/



Ah...that's where he keeps it - typical Dexter...

[cookiemonster]

Creepy, my arse!..that was the truest most tender moment in bb history!...the lad is head over heals about her!...I've known this for weeks! ...And the doubters are just being nasty about someone they don't understand! :nono:
this. it was very courageous of Dexter. he's just trying to prove to her (still) that he really does like her in that way.

many people misunderstand him, and they can think what they like but i think he's lovely

people are judging him way too much on his past, and not knowing the true reasons behind it all

[Delightful]

Having one ovary does not make a woman infertile... she will still produce an egg every month with her good ovary, so God knows why Dexter has brought up artificial insemination ... he could get still get her pregnant the conventional way (god help us). As many other people have said the whole convo is very strange indeed. No-one in that house knows each other well enough to even consider being parents.

:pipe:

Each ovary only produces eggs on alternate months, so the good ovary would only produce eggs every two months.

[Northern Monkey]

I can't believe he said that!That is more creepy than anything Callum ever said or did!

[smeagol]

he said cause she doesn't see him in that way. the same reason why he said int he diary room dont need to have sex lol

funny thing to say as i.e you dont have to sleep with me. dont think he meant charlies problem or anything else

[Kyle]

Got a bit of a biology lesson going in this thread. :dance:

They can't say you don't learn anything on here now.... :spin:


1 quick question cos I'm interested to know. Do you girls make eggs as you go along or are you born with the amount you get?

[Cherie]

Got a bit of a biology lesson going in this thread. :dance:

They can't say you don't learn anything on here now.... :spin:


1 quick question cos I'm interested to know. Do you girls make eggs as you go along or are you born with the amount you get?

We girls are born with the amount we get which is why as ladies get older they have problems conceiving as the ovaries start to deteriorate.

[Kyle]

We girls are born with the amount we get which is why as ladies get older they have problems conceiving as the ovaries start to deteriorate.

Ah ok I see thanks.

[AnnieK]

It's also possible to produce more than one egg (fraternal twins) plus there are drugs that can make you produce more. (During IVF the drugs can make you produce up to 30ish).

[Kyle]

It's also possible to produce more than one egg (fraternal twins) plus there are drugs that can make you produce more. (During IVF the drugs can make you produce up to 30ish).

What do you mean by 'produce'? Is that like releasing them from the ovary?

I'm sorry if I'm a bit thick on this subject I want to learn honest.

[AnnieK]

What do you mean by 'produce'? Is that like releasing them from the ovary?

I'm sorry if I'm a bit thick on this subject I want to learn honest.

Yeah, they mature and grow then are released, usually only one per month

[Kyle]

Yeah, they mature and grow then are released, usually only one per month

Ah right yeh that makes sense. What I don't get though is why are there 2 ovaries? Cos are they those things at the top like at the end next to the Fallopian (sp?) tubes? Do they take it in turns or something? Is it possible for both to release at the same time?

[Kris]

I haven't read all three pages of comments so maybe someone has already brought this up...

He said that, I believe because of the other comment when he said he would happily marry her and never have sex (since she doesn't see him that way) because he loves her that much.

Yep, absolutely 1000 times creepier then anything Callum ever did. I honestly think everything that was shown yesterday was completely for the cameras and votes...a fine load of crap.

[AnnieK]

Ah right yeh that makes sense. What I don't get though is why are there 2 ovaries? Cos are they those things at the top like at the end next to the Fallopian (sp?) tubes? Do they take it in turns or something? Is it possible for both to release at the same time?

They don't take it in turns really, one ovary can release several times in a row. It depends which one has te maturest egg to release. It is possible they will both release in the same month but it doesn't happen that often

[Kyle]

They don't take it in turns really, one ovary can release several times in a row. It depends which one has te maturest egg to release. It is possible they will both release in the same month but it doesn't happen that often

Ok just one more question and ill stop cos your not here to be my biology teacher although I appreciate it! :hugesmile:

If they do both release and a guy does the y'know can a sperm penetrate both eggs and what happens with that?

[AnnieK]

Ok just one more question and ill stop cos your not here to be my biology teacher although I appreciate it! :hugesmile:

If they do both release and a guy does the y'know can a sperm penetrate both eggs and what happens with that?

Yep it could happen and they would be fraternal (non identical twins) and in essence it can happen on different days. Eggs are only viable for fertilisation for 24 hours but sperm are viable for longer (up to 72 hours) so if two eggs are released 48 hours apart they could theoretically both fertilise and implant.

[Jesus.]

Women generally only produce one egg each cycle. Period.

[Kyle]

Yep it could happen and they would be fraternal (non identical twins) and in essence it can happen on different days. Eggs are only viable for fertilisation for 24 hours but sperm are viable for longer (up to 72 hours) so if two eggs are released 48 hours apart they could theoretically both fertilise and implant.

Jesus, that's a whole load more questions right there. This is actually quite an interesting subject, took me till I'm 24 to find it so but better late than never right :joker:

Anyway I won't burden you anymore thanks a lot for your help and answers, you women still confuse the sh*t out of me but I understand a little more now. :devil:

[smudgie]

I haven't read all three pages of comments so maybe someone has already brought this up...

He said that, I believe because of the other comment when he said he would happily marry her and never have sex (since she doesn't see him that way) because he loves her that much.

Yep, absolutely 1000 times creepier then anything Callum ever did. I honestly think everything that was shown yesterday was completely for the cameras and votes...a fine load of crap.

Odd,odd odd ....anybody saying they would marry somebody even if that other person did not fancy them.

Obviously making it easier for him to sell his heartbreak story when he gets out.


Sleazy slime ball. Definitely the biggest creep this year in fact possibly of any year. :yuk:

[Ellen]

Odd,odd odd ....anybody saying they would marry somebody even if that other person did not fancy them.

Obviously making it easier for him to sell his heartbreak story when he gets out.


Sleazy slime ball. Definitely the biggest creep this year in fact possibly of any year. :yuk:

Exactly, why would say you want to marry someone who does not fancy you:conf:
Like you say......... Heartbreak story £££££££££££££££££££ Kerching!!!

[Marmalite]

We girls are born with the amount we get which is why as ladies get older they have problems conceiving as the ovaries start to deteriorate.


Actually no.

Girls are not born with eggs per se but follicles. Once they reach menstruation they release thousands of these and only one will actually mature into an egg.

Older woman release more of these which can result in more than one ovary being created, which is why it is pretty common for older woman (35+) to fall pregnant with twins. (Non-identical twins btw).

So older woman are more likely to create 2 eggs at a time, without fertility treatment, than just the one when they are younger.

[Twildoo]

Sleazy slime ball. Definitely the biggest creep this year in fact possibly of any year. :yuk:


Well said! :thumbs:

[Kazanne]

I have one ovary,but have 3 kids so I must be lucky.

[CaudleHalbard]

I think Dexter has merely misunderstood the situation.

Charlie seemed to find the artificial insemination comment very funny. :D

[Twildoo]

What chairlie has, well what it sounds like to me is Endometriosis. And you can have kids....I have it....I have also had a massive cyst and my ovary removed...you just loose about 30% of chance of getting pregnant....you just have to plan it right. Thants what the Doctors told me! :D