Is David Moyes out of his depth?

[Ryan57]

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[MTVN]

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[Ryan57]

Always my first choice.

[GiRTh]

Tactical genius

[AnnieK]

He's just been kidding all this time.....we will the CL now, who cares about the PL

[King Gizzard]

Not fooling anyone though, a 40 year old and the goalkeeper being your best players

[Ryan57]

Fellaini was outstanding.

[AnnieK]

Not fooling anyone though, a 40 year old and the goalkeeper being your best players

Lol....it really amuses me the number of times they mention Giggsy's age....

[Brother Leon]

First manager to overcome 2-0 first leg deficit in CL.


A POSITIVE HISTORIC RECORD FOR ONCE!! :joker:

[Drew.]

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[Ryan57]

Please don't play Buttner in the QF first leg.

[Brother Leon]

Please don't play Buttner in the QF first leg.

Buttner Vs Bale.

Will be good bantz tbh.

[Shaun]

446400582732247040

:joker:

[Ryan57]

Buttner Vs Bale.

Will be good bantz tbh.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02679/moyes1_2679794b.jpg

[Black Dagger]

446400582732247040

omfg :joker:

[AnnieK]

Shhhh just let us bask in the glory of winning....:love:

[Brother Leon]

What's funny?

We are the first to over come 2-0. No one said 2 goals..even so. 6th in history for 2 goal defecit is still a good achievement.

[Black Dagger]

Shhhh just let us bask in the glory of winning....:love:

Enjoy your Champions League QF trophy <3, will there be an open top bus parade? :amazed:

[Locke.]

That was just a warm up for the derby win next week

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[Black Dagger]

lmfao.

[Brother Leon]

Enjoy your Champions League QF trophy <3, will there be an open top bus parade? :amazed:

Would still get more than your title winning parade x

[AnnieK]

Enjoy your Champions League QF trophy <3, will there be an open top bus parade? :amazed:

See you in the next round.....oh wait :amazed:

[Black Dagger]

Would still get more than your title winning parade x

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yep, absolutely ****-all there. soz.

[King Gizzard]

City would have probably beat Olympiakos 9-0 on aggregate

[Locke.]

See you in the next round.....oh wait :amazed:

See you in next years tournament......oh wait

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[Black Dagger]

See you in the next round.....oh wait :amazed:

We played against Barca, y'all had to overcome a deficit against Olympiakos... but oh well, you'll get destroyed by any of the teams you get in the next round tbh </3.

[Drew.]

See you in next years tournament......oh wait

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[Black Dagger]

well that is one of the best gif's i've seen.

[AnnieK]

See you in next years tournament......oh wait

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Just mean......

Although if your lot can win it to qualify...I'll have faith.

[AnnieK]

We played against Barca, y'all had to overcome a deficit against Olympiakos... but oh well, you'll get destroyed by any of the teams you get in the next round tbh </3.

Oh ye of little faith

[King Gizzard]

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amazing

[GiRTh]

SStrange game tonight. Moyes tactics, formation and set up were spot on. Do you think Sir Alex has secretly taken over running the first team?

[Brother Leon]

Harsh on Moyes to take it away from him tbh. I think Giggs may well have had more of a say though. Giggs and Carrick in the middle, Valencia wide, Welbeck in a big game to do a job..It was pretty much a typical old Sir Alex type line up in Europe(including the pre match meltdown by fans over how **** the xi is :laugh:).

[GiRTh]

Harsh on Moyes to take it away from him tbh. I think Giggs may well have had more of a say though. Giggs and Carrick in the middle, Valencia wide, Welbeck in a big game to do a job..It was pretty much a typical old Sir Alex type line up in Europe(including the pre match meltdown by fans over how **** the xi is :laugh:).Chatting to my mate online. The one who thinks Welbeck is better than Aguero, remember me mentioning him? :joker:

He was the one who suggested that you looked like Untied under Ferguson tonight.

[King Gizzard]

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alright LK

[Locke.]

SStrange game tonight. Moyes tactics, formation and set up were spot on. Do you think Sir Alex has secretly taken over running the first team?

To be fair if that was against a PL team they'd have been punished a lot, Olympiakos just don't have any quality upfront anymore to finish those chances

[Jesus.]

Their record prior to last night in England, was played 7, won 0, drawn 0, lost 7. Scored 3, conceded 20.

Last night was a par performance, despite all the clear cut chances they squandered.

[Jesus.]

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[Ryan57]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2534438/Martinezs-Everton-ready-Champions-League-Moyes-brainwashed-fans-thinking-8th-good-enough.html

This article from January pretty much sums up Moyes. Just a negative manager.

[Ryan57]

Fergie: "I'll knock Liverpool off their ****ing perch"

Moyes: "City are at the level we aspire to be"

[Brother Leon]

18 goals,18 goals at Old Trafford
18 goals,18 goals I say

[Ryan57]

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Glorious. Best news I've heard all year.

Seems it's going to be a plane flying over with the banner on. Would be amazing to see.

[MTVN]

18 votes for kill yourself Moyes :unsure:

[Drew.]

The banner being arranged for our FA cup semi final game, where is this Wenger thread then

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjqHJefIEAARg5W.jpg:large

[MTVN]

Is it Piers footing the bill

[Ryan57]

Could of at least used the current crest.

[Drew.]

Piers is probably at home knitting it together as we speak

[Ryan57]

New show lined up... Knitting with Piers. http://skrillexmothership.com/forum/uploads/monthly_01_2013/post-14324-0-70160800-1358117638.jpg

[Ryan57]

GAME are doing a trade in offer. Trade in a United season ticket and get one of FIFA 14, PES 2014 and FM 2014 in return. :joker:

Can also trade in Cardiff and West Brom season tickets.

[Black Dagger]

18 votes for kill yourself Moyes :unsure:

I'm hardly surprised, scum :idc:

[MTVN]

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Actually happening then, stupid

[Ryan57]

It's glorious. :worship:

Can't wait to see it.

[GiRTh]

Cant wait.

[Ryan57]

Will be far more entertaining to watch than the loser's style of play.

[Brother Leon]

Pretty sad when the only reason I am probably watching the match is to see if the plane is shown :laugh:

[Ryan57]

I'd be shocked if it isn't. The media will lap it up. Hope it's spread across every back page on Sunday.

[Cherie]

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Actually happening then, stupid

Just embarrassing and no need it's not like the board will continue with him indefinately

[Locke.]

The plane has been hijacked and seems to convey a different kind of message

http://i.imgur.com/uUIjx6Q.jpg

[Black Dagger]

:laugh2:

Might as well just get used to Moyes, long live his reign, he can stay in charge all he likes, all he wants is his team to be like City </3

[Brother Leon]

Fans can express their opinion how they want. If they want to fork £800 to fly a banner over the stadium then who am I to call it stupid tbh. They are still showing more passion for the club than 99% of the players this season. He's also deluded himself enough judging by his press conference to the extent that he thinks the fans all love and support him. I felt for him as he was simply out of his depth, but he can get the **** out after his Man City comments and I genuinely can't even loom at the guy anymore. Aspiring to be like a club that hasn't finished with more points than us for **** knows how log before he got in...who is he to even say some **** like that?

[Cherie]

Fans can express their opinion how they want. If they want to fork £800 to fly a banner over the stadium then who am I to call it stupid tbh. They are still showing more passion for the club than 99% of the players this season. He's also deluded himself enough judging by his press conference to the extent that he thinks the fans all love and support him. I felt for him as he was simply out of his depth, but he can get the **** out after his Man City comments and I genuinely can't even loom at the guy anymore. Aspiring to be like a club that hasn't finished with more points than us for **** knows how log before he got in...who is he to even say some **** like that?

Yeah agree with that.

[Black Dagger]

I was expecting him to say some ****e after he lost to us, but that topped anything I imagined, it was too good :joker:

[Novo]

Why can't we just all get along

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[MTVN]

Moyes the realist

[Brother Leon]

He also apparently said that Sir Alex would be struggling this season too :laugh:. Oh David...you don't help yourself :laugh:

[Ryan57]

He is so full of shat. Anyone but him is to blame.

Also, I don't find flying a banner over the stadium embarrassing. If that's embarrassing, then what do we call what David Moyes has done this season?

Get rid and bring in Van Gaal.

[Cherie]

He is so full of shat. Anyone but him is to blame.

Also, I don't find flying a banner over the stadium embarrassing. If that's embarrassing, then what do we call what David Moyes has done this season?

Get rid and bring in Van Gaal.


Everyone including Moyes knows it is going to happen so I can't see the point of it.

I don't thing anyone expected any different a season once Ferguson stepped down and Moyes was appointed. A guy who has never won anything, not sure what Fergie was thinking, unless he has a massive grudge against Moyes that is the only rational explanation :laugh:. Moyes is not a big enough name for the egos at United either which is another problem he has got along with being a negative manager.

[AnnieK]

I'd rather fans express themselves and their disillusionment with a plane rather than brawling.....he is systematically destroying the club and so big gestures are maybe what will make the board sit up and listen....they have to remember where their revenue comes from and listen......Moyes Out....

[Ryan57]

Everyone including Moyes knows it is going to happen so I can't see the point of it.

I don't thing anyone expected any different a season once Ferguson stepped down and Moyes was appointed. A guy who has never won anything, not sure what Fergie was thinking, unless he has a massive grudge against Moyes that is the only rational explanation :laugh:. Moyes is not a big enough name for the egos at United either which is another problem he has got along with being a negative manager.

Knew what was going to happen? This bad a season?

[GiRTh]

Soccer Saturday discussing Moyes right now. He must have a lot of friends cuz they are still giving him a chance to turn it round.

[Brother Leon]

Former Manchester United defender Gary Neville on Twitter: (external) United fans have been classy all season in support of the team/manager when it's been poor. This stunt let's all our fans down! In protest at the protest every United fan should sing David Moyes' name or boo for the entire stunt!


Gary Neville is so desperate to stick up for him and save his brother's job as a coach. How about the manager does something to give the fans a reason to sing his name??

[AnnieK]

Knew what was going to happen? This bad a season?

No, everyone including moyes knows about the plane I think...

[AnnieK]

Former Manchester United defender Gary Neville on Twitter: (external) United fans have been classy all season in support of the team/manager when it's been poor. This stunt let's all our fans down! In protest at the protest every United fan should sing David Moyes' name or boo for the entire stunt!


Gary Neville is so desperate to stick up for him and save his brother's job as a coach. How about the manager does something to give the fans a reason to sing his name??

:worship: to that.....

Not gonna happen though....

[MTVN]

Damn right Gary, lets hope Old Trafford get a verse of "Wild, Wild, Wild" going when that plane flies over

[GiRTh]

Damn right Gary, lets hope Old Trafford get a verse of "Wild, Wild, Wild" going when that plane flies over:joker:

[MTVN]

What time is it meant to fly over? Doing it during the game is better than before surely

[Locke.]

The second plane is supposed to fly over 15 minutes in, not sure about the original one

[MTVN]

Moyes is ready

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[MTVN]

Standing ovation for Moysey

[Crimson Dynamo]

Moyes is ready

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bj5Syx6CIAA0iSc.jpg

No ammo as usual :joker:

[MTVN]

Well that was an anti climax

[Brother Leon]

What an anticlimax :joker:

[GiRTh]

The planes gonna be taking off again. Great goal from Westwood. :joker:

[Cherie]

Knew what was going to happen? This bad a season?


The plane I think it takes the sting out of the "gesture" by advertising it before hand, personally I think it would have had more impact if it happened without prior warning.

Also the bad season was a given, once Moyes was appointed, most United fans face palmed when he got the job didn't they :conf:

[Ryan57]

The plane I think it takes the sting out of the "gesture" by advertising it before hand, personally I think it would have had more impact if it happened without prior warning.

Also the bad season was a given, once Moyes was appointed, most United fans face palmed when he got the job didn't they :conf:

Sorry, Cherie. I didn't realise you were on about the plane. I'm a twat, ignore me. :joker:

[Cherie]

Sorry, Cherie. I didn't realise you were on about the plane. I'm a twat, ignore me. :joker:

:fist:

[Kyle]

You should hire that plane again lads. Seems to be working wonders :facepalm:

[Brother Leon]

He strikes again:

"Moyes admires Guardiola's work but feels the Spaniard benefited from having a break after leaving Barcelona.

"It's a different situation [for Guardiola]," he said. "I am sure he had done a lot of homework and had a year's preparation before taking the job in Munich. He learnt German, watched the games and learned a lot about the players.

"I do think he took over maybe a little more prepared and ready and, with respect, they were the champions of Europe as well so he had a lot of things in place."
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It all makes sense now. Moyes couldn't speak English and wasn't managing for 10 years in this country...or took over the English champions. I feel bad for getting on his back now :(

[Ryan57]

Sir Alex Ferguson, among David Moyes’s most fervent backers in the Old Trafford boardroom, will play no part in deciding his successor’s future as Manchester United manager.

Hallelujah if true. :worship:

[Brother Leon]

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That ageing squad that was left behind :(. Crazy what Rodgers is doing though. Bloody hell.

[Jesus.]

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[Ryan57]

Quite possibly the most creepy picture this forum has ever seen. :joker:

[Ryan57]

Looks like Toni Kroos is staying at Bayern. Never expected Moyes to be used as a bargaining tool. Thought the lure of fighting for a Europa League spot next season would of been what Kroos dreams of.

[Jesus.]

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[Jesus.]

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[AnnieK]

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:laugh: Just a shame that ball didn't hit him slightly higher....and slightly harder...

[joeysteele]

Every club can have a poor season but it is expected that teams like Man Utd are at least in the running for honours.

He really needs to have one the vbest ever run ins to the end of the season with wins coming easily otherwise there could be more rumblings as to his managerial skills.

However having reached the quarter finals of the European cup and still a likely top 6 finish in the premier league should be enough to ensure he stays.
I myself an not sure if he is the man for the job really but he will, to be fair, need a couple of seasons to make his mark, if he can.

[Ryan57]

Proved once again how out of his depth he is.

[Ryan57]

Andreas Pereira (United academy player) liked this picture on Instagram apparently.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bk2IFVVCUAE2QcB.png

Nobody respects the guy.

[Jesus.]

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[Brother Leon]

:laugh: Just a shame that ball didn't hit him slightly higher....and slightly harder...

You mean slightly lower? :p

[AnnieK]

You mean slightly lower? :p

Yeah - I was thinking of it hitting him in the face but slightly lower would be priceless too.....:laugh:

[GiRTh]

So now Man Utd are out of the Champions league how many years do we think it will be before they are in this completion again?

[Brother Leon]

So now Man Utd are out of the Champions league how many years do we think it will be before they are in this completion again?

Next season tbh. New manager,couple mids and a LB and we good to go. The squad was pretty easily a top 3 squad. I'm Not having this media excuse of "overhaul was needed"

[Jesus.]

Probably only one unfortunately. When you throw anything between £150-200m at a problem, chances are that it will be fixed pretty quickly.

[Brother Leon]

However. If Moyes is still manager then it doesn't matter who we sign we aren't finishing top 4 so the answer would be season after next.

At least Moyes is going to make Glazers spend some of the money the club has made due to his ineptitude. Being outspent by a Liverpool team regularly that hasn't won **** for so long is disgraceful stuff.

[Jesus.]

Regularly outspent by a Liverpool team?

We've had to scrape around trying to get players to build a team. You've been in a privileged position to add first teamers to a competing squad.

DDG -£20m
Jones - £18m
Smalling - £10m
Carrick - £18m
RVP - £24m
Rooney - £27m
Ferdinand - £30m
Valencia - £16m
Young - £18m
KShinji - £18m
Mata - £37m
Fellaini£28m
Nani - £18m
Anderson - £18m
Zaha - £15m

Yeah - it's clear for everyone that united haven't had any funding.

[Drew.]

Moyes isn't going anywhere, he is here to stay i'm afraid.

[Jesus.]

In the interest of fairness:

Mignolet - £13m
Johnson - £18m
Sakho - £18m
Henderson £16m
Sturridge - £12m
Suarez - £22m

[Drew.]

...

Downing £20m
Carroll £35m

[Jesus.]

...

Downing £20m
Carroll £35m

Are they part of the Liverpool squad?

Also paid for by Fernando Torres. Should I count his transfer fee under the current Liverpool players that cost decent money?

[Drew.]

I thought this was comparing who outspent who, not who is currently playing.

[Drew.]

Add Borini to that.. £11m

[Jesus.]

Add Borini to that.. £11m

Borini is a fair shout. As is Joe Allen.

[Brother Leon]

Regularly outspent by a Liverpool team?

We've had to scrape around trying to get players to build a team. You've been in a privileged position to add first teamers to a competing squad.

DDG -£20m
Jones - £18m
Smalling - £10m
Carrick - £18m
RVP - £24m
Rooney - £27m
Ferdinand - £30m
Valencia - £16m
Young - £18m
KShinji - £18m
Mata - £37m
Fellaini£28m
Nani - £18m
Anderson - £18m
Zaha - £15m

Yeah - it's clear for everyone that united haven't had any funding.

Mata and Fellaini were under Moyes where investment was needed yes.

The facts are there to see. Liverpool has matched or at least been around our region of spending during the Sir Alex years despite you winning close to **** all and United dominating the league. It's just the vast number of players Liverpool did sign came to nothing and were sold on.

[GiRTh]

Didn't Dirk Kuyt cost about 15 million?

[Jesus.]

Mata and Fellaini were under Moyes where investment was needed yes.

The facts are there to see. Liverpool has matched or at least been around our region of spending during the Sir Alex years despite you winning close to **** all and United dominating the league. It's just the vast number of players Liverpool did sign came to nothing and were sold on.

When we were the dominant force, it was united who were generally spending more money. It's easier to pick off the players you need from a position of strength, and especially with one manager.

When you have to replace 4/5 players each season trying to get back to the top, then it's a lot harder. You end up chasing your tails. United have cut back over the last few years, but I only ever remember you constantly outspending us. Maybe that's just perspective.

Either way, looking at the prices of the players in your team, I don't think it's fair to claim you've been underfunded.

[Brother Leon]

Liverpool has spent boatloads. No club has spent as much as them since 1990 without winning their league. It's why this whole "Liverpol the underdogs" story this year is pretty funny to me. They aren't spending Chesea/City money obviously but they aren't some broke club relying on its accademy to win the league either.

[Jesus.]

Didn't Dirk Kuyt cost about 15 million?

He was around £12/13m, or less than a Jose Reye/Sylvan Wiltord in modern money - but he's not part of the squad.

[Brother Leon]

When we were the dominant force, it was united who were generally spending more money. It's easier to pick off the players you need from a position of strength, and especially with one manager.

When you have to replace 4/5 players each season trying to get back to the top, then it's a lot harder. You end up chasing your tails. United have cut back over the last few years, but I only ever remember you constantly outspending us. Maybe that's just perspective.

Either way, looking at the prices of the players in your team, I don't think it's fair to claim you've been underfunded.

I see where you are coming from and It's a fair point, but I'm not saying we have been underfunded. Just that in comparison to our revenues and success we have. I mean this is a club that makes record sorting revenues after all..

[Brother Leon]

Anyway this has gone crazy off topic. Let's get back to how clueless Moyes is :joker:

We can all agree on that :p

[Jesus.]

Liverpool has spent boatloads. No club has spent as much as them since 1990 without winning their league. It's why this whole "Liverpol the underdogs" story this year is pretty funny to me. They aren't spending Chesea/City money obviously but they aren't some broke club relying on its accademy to win the league either.

Easy question - what position did you think Liverpool would finish the season in?

Answer honestly.

Now you'll see why we're underdogs, and we've only spent the money we've earned. There are teams you can criticise for spending ludicrous money in football - but Liverpool isn't one. We've spread our money too thin at times instead of getting one good player, we've signed 3 players.

Regardless of your bad feeling to being more liked by more people, and coupled with your own terrible season, there is no denying that Liverpool are the underdogs.

Jose Mourinho has spent £100m since his return, and Pellegrini spent not far off that too. We spent a ****load less this summer.

[Jesus.]

I see where you are coming from and It's a fair point, but I'm not saying we have been underfunded. Just that in comparison to our revenues and success we have. I mean this is a club that makes record sorting revenues after all..

I also agree about the way the Glazers have stolen your cash. As someone supporting a team with loads less money and H&G, I genuinely understand that frustration. Have to be honest though - I dread the day the Glazers leave!

[GiRTh]

He was around £12/13m, or less than a Jose Reye/Sylvan Wiltord in modern money - but he's not part of the squad.

the original point was that Liverpool had out spent United which you claimed was untrue. personally I dont see what Wiltord or Reyes have to do with whether Liverpool have outspent Man Utd.

[Locke.]

Didn't Dirk Kuyt cost about 15 million?

Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Kuyt has been one of our best and most consistent players over the past 10 years.

[Ryan57]

We'll struggle to make top four next season if Moyes is still boss. We could sign Messi and Ronaldo, it doesn't change the fact he's tactically inept.

[GiRTh]

Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Kuyt has been one of our best and most consistent players over the past 10 years.Again, we were discussing if Liverpool had outspent United and I think they had.

I doubt if Arsenal will make it in to 4th spot too but I kind of hope we dont cuz then it will be viewed as a bad season and Wenger will probably spend about 100 million in August. Like he always does when he's under pressure but he decides to spend virtually nothing when he can argue that we've had a good season. This year having to admit he's got it wrong will hopefully jolt the old codger into action especially if we dont win the FA cup.

[Jesus.]

the original point was that Liverpool had out spent United which you claimed was untrue. personally I dont see what Wiltord or Reyes have to do with whether Liverpool have outspent Man Utd.

http://transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/transfer-league-table-1992-to-today.html

United have outspent us, and they used to outspend us every year as I was growing up watching united spend untold riches (which to be fair - they earned themselves) and clean up the silverware. There has been a balancing over the last few years as the glazers haven't spent, united received a transfer world record for cristiano, and we had new owners that rather misplaced a lot of money with the king and Commoli.

I'm not bleating - it's a lot closer than I thought it would be. Having whiskey nose in charge enabled them to not have to build 3/4 different teams for different managers every 4 years. We've wasted a lot of money - you'd never get an honest Liverpool fan say otherwise. We also have spent our own money, and we were also propping up american owners. We've found ourselves in a mess at different times, and even before Rafa came there was no "Big 4", it was a "big 3", so rafa had to build a new squad, with lots of turnover of players for relatively small money.

It's all if's buts and maybe's anyway, as Houllier had a deal for Ronaldo before united, but Liverpool refused to pay his agent £1m to sign him, and Rafa had a deal wrapped up for Aguero before Atletico, but Parry wouldn't pay the £14m for such a young player.

Footie is a game of fine margins, and ours is a club that's been racked with incompetence, sometimes at the top, sometimes at the bottom, and often at both.

[Brother Leon]

So the table tells us that Liverpool have spent more, but sold more to have a lower net spend. I said that Liverpool have outspent us, but sold a lot due to poor players being bought in in fairness :laugh:

Don't get me wrong as much as I may hate Liverpool they are at least spending money off their own revenue not due to some big money owner and I can respect them a lot more than City or Chelsea for example. You also said it yourself..look how close the Purchasing,Selling and Net spend is between us and then in comparison to the difference in revenues which I believe is around 200m to 400m+.

[Jesus.]

Sales is all part of what any club spend. It's basic maths. I think there needs to be quantifiers added to that figure as well. Take ROy Keane who cost £3.75m - that was as much as 8 clubs (including Liverpool and Arsenal) spent in that season. Rio Ferdinand for £30m in 01/02/03 is not worth the same as today.

I'm not disputing the figures, but like I said - we've caught you up over the last few years because you've hardly spent anything, and we pissed a load of cash up the wall.

We were spending £7-10m each season, at the same time you were spunking 30m on Veron, so it can never be accounted for, but our spending is a result of more money floating around the game generally these days.

[Jesus.]

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[Jesus.]

Carra was getting abused at Munich airport the other night by a load of mancs, all chanting "you scouse bastard", "we hate scousers", and "build a bonfire".

He turned round and said "it's no wonder Rooney doesn't want to ******ing play for you".

[Ryan57]

That 'you Scouse b@stard' is so ridiculous. I remember just a few weeks back in the United - Liverpool game they were chanting it at Gerrard whilst Rooney was trying to win the ball back from him. :joker:

[Brother Leon]

Rooney can **** off anyway the spouse bastard :joker: :idc:

[Jesus.]

That 'you Scouse b@stard' is so ridiculous. I remember just a few weeks back in the United - Liverpool game they were chanting it at Gerrard whilst Rooney was trying to win the ball back from him. :joker:

Football fans acting like blinkered idiots (all fans - not just united/Liverpool) is hardly the shock of the century.

[Jesus.]

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[Ryan57]

Manchester United have dismissed reports linking the club with Holland manager Louis van Gaal.
Reports have claimed United representatives, including one of the Glazer family who own the club, have met with the former Ajax, Barcelona and Bayern Munich coach.

Desperately hope we're dismissing it in public, but really have contacted him. One can dream. :(

[Jesus.]

5 more years, 5 more years, 5 more years.

[Ryan57]

Fully expect Moyes to still be in the job come the start of next season. Another wank campaign.

Great sig, btw Jesus. :worship:

[Ryan57]

He was already a thunder c u n t, but when Liverpool lift that title I'll feel like killing him.

[Brother Leon]

He's going to get a really hostile reception tomorrow, which is a shame. As **** as he has been for us, he did save Everton really and you would think they would be alot more grateful.

[Ryan57]

A bit more grateful. However, they never progressed under him. No wonder they were glad to get shot of him. He got them to where they are, but didn't have the bottle to go any further. 'effin goblin loser.

[Brother Leon]

A bit more grateful. However, they never progressed under him. No wonder they were glad to get shot of him. He got them to where they are, but didn't have the bottle to go any further. 'effin goblin loser.

He took a team set for relegation with little financial resources and broke the top 4 and cemented top 6 places for them. Without him there is every chance Everton are in the lower leagues and irrelevant. Yeah he won nothing, but he transformed the club. For all the praise Martinez gets...if he took Everton when Moyes did he probably relegates them.

It's embarrassing how so many Everton fans think they are greater than him now and seem to mock him.

[Ryan57]

He did a great job. His time was up though. Never was going to take the club forward as philosophy never allowed for it. Yet Fergie and Charlton thought he could take us forward, pmsl.

[Alf]

He's going to get a really hostile reception tomorrow, which is a shame. As **** as he has been for us, he did save Everton really and you would think they would be alot more grateful.
I doubt that, and if he does it will be tongue in cheek.

The Everton fans are a knowledgeable bunch and appreciate everything Moyes did for them.

This is "The Moyesyside derby"

[Ryan57]

I thought the general consensus was Everton fans hugely disliked him due to the BS he spouted over the summer regarding Baines and Fellaini and the whole contract saga.

They also chanted 'You're getting sacked in the morning' after the win in December.

[Brother Leon]

They dislike him because he dared to try sign some of his former players...while they raided Wigan for Martinez former players.

[Ryan57]

Think it was more to the following:

Asked on Friday if he had sympathy for Martinez, Moyes said: ‘I definitely do. But I also know that if I was the Everton manager and Sir Alex had come asking for Baines and Fellaini, I would have found it very difficult to keep them.

'I always felt the right thing to do was what was right for the players.

Despite the previous summer refusing to let Baines join us and the Lescott saga.

[Ryan57]

Once said at Everton:

“I think it’s correct to assume they’re trying to destabilise us because we are rivals. I think other football clubs should not talk about players from others clubs in the media. If you do that, you are destabilising the player or the club. I would hope I don’t do that.

Such hypocrisy. The guy is just a twat and full of shat.

[Alf]

Once said at Everton:

“I think it’s correct to assume they’re trying to destabilise us because we are rivals. I think other football clubs should not talk about players from others clubs in the media. If you do that, you are destabilising the player or the club. I would hope I don’t do that.

Such hypocrisy. The guy is just a twat and full of shat.
You listen to to much of the off-field media circus and take it as gospel.

[Ryan57]

That is not the only reason I believe him to spout bollocks. Choose pretty much any time this season.

You can't say you don't want to disrespect Everton then go and do it.

[Legend killer]

We'll struggle to make top four next season if Moyes is still boss. We could sign Messi and Ronaldo, it doesn't change the fact he's tactically inept.

Manchester United have dismissed reports linking the club with Holland manager Louis van Gaal.
Reports have claimed United representatives, including one of the Glazer family who own the club, have met with the former Ajax, Barcelona and Bayern Munich coach.

Desperately hope we're dismissing it in public, but really have contacted him. One can dream. :(

He did a great job. His time was up though. Never was going to take the club forward as philosophy never allowed for it. Yet Fergie and Charlton thought he could take us forward, pmsl.

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[Brother Leon]

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I think I am tbf.

[Legend killer]

I think I am tbf.

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I bet you are Locke's alt account