Controversial opinions

[Jemal]

omfg your sig

:laugh:
Which bit of my sig?
And whats omfg about it

[MeMyselfAndI]

Shes in shock at your support of terrible X-Factor contestants http://i.imgur.com/UmLPLxK.png

[Black Dagger]

The X-Factor Sam C, Nicholas http://i.imgur.com/UmLPLxK.png

[Black Dagger]

oh and lol at queen and 'lazy'

[Apple202]

The X-Factor Sam C, Nicholas http://i.imgur.com/UmLPLxK.png

why are you using that smiley

[Black Dagger]

I felt like it xx

it looks a bit scary, scary like that xf taste :sad:

[Jemal]

Shes in shock at your support of terrible X-Factor contestants http://i.imgur.com/UmLPLxK.png

:laugh:
*middle fingers*

[Jemal]

*gets popcorn*
*waits for the conflict to spark to life*

[Kate!]

who is that in your sig Lucas?

[Black Dagger]

Juan Martin Del Potro celebrating his 1 million fans on Facebook hehe.

edit: ty for making it smaller Josy :lovedup:

[Ninastar]

i meant salmans sig

[Ninastar]

America is a far better place than the UK. the hate it gets over here is disgusting considering 97% of the people hating on it have never been there anyway.

[Marsh.]

[2]Prince Phillip is a turd on the shoes of society (and possibly a murdering bastard as well)

:laugh2:

[2]The Queen should abdicate now, in favour of William; Charles and the horse faced bitch should never get a sniff of the throne.

All the 'cousins' and hangers on should not get money given to them and homes, it's all bollocks.

Hear, hear.

America is a far better place than the UK.

Couldn't disagree more.

[Ninastar]

Couldn't disagree more.

and that's why this is an opinion thread :)

[Marsh.]

and that's why this is an opinion thread :)

:conf:

And you're telling me something I already know because.......?

[Ninastar]

if you kill someone (unless its an accident) you should be stripped of all human rights

[Kizzy]

I think they should have thrown maggie thatchers carcass down a coal mine.

[Z]

http://media.tumblr.com/bc100f8b1f8fd8c22ca0012c010e9f3a/tumblr_inline_mtlx8ttnD91rtqjzy.gif

(just really wanted to post this .GIF and had nowhere useful to post it)

[Kizzy]

Can someone make that my sig? thanx

[Marsh.]

if you kill someone (unless its an accident) you should be stripped of all human rights

What about those suffering with severe mental illness?

[Jake.]

http://media.tumblr.com/bc100f8b1f8fd8c22ca0012c010e9f3a/tumblr_inline_mtlx8ttnD91rtqjzy.gif

(just really wanted to post this .GIF and had nowhere useful to post it)

FD2 :love:

[Mitchell]

Vaginas are disgusting and should be banned.

[Kazanne]

Vaginas are disgusting and should be banned.

:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:they are much prettier than donga's Potty:joker::joker::joker:

[AnnieK]

Vaginas are disgusting and should be banned.

So are you guys going to give birth and maintain the population?

[Mitchell]

So are you guys going to give birth and maintain the population?

No, the babies can be diverted to the bum

[Jesus.]

So are you guys going to give birth and maintain the population?

We'd do it with less of the moaning about childbirth. Back at work in the afternoon.

[Niamh.]

So are you guys going to give birth and maintain the population?

http://i.imgur.com/jhL0rIn.gif

[Jake.]

We'd do it with less of the moaning about childbirth. Back at work in the afternoon.

:laugh:

[Mitchell]

We'd do it with less of the moaning about childbirth. Back at work in the afternoon.

:dance:

[Niamh.]

:dance:

What are you dancing about?, if you can't even handle the look of a vagina, I don't hold out much hope for you making it through childbirth :laugh:

[AnnieK]

We'd do it with less of the moaning about childbirth. Back at work in the afternoon.

Of course you would :pat:

[Mitchell]

What are you dancing about?, if you can't even handle the look of a vagina, I don't hold out much hope for you making it through childbirth :laugh:

Niamh put your vagina away

[Niamh.]

Niamh put your vagina away

http://i.imgur.com/RUNizpl.gif

[Jesus.]

Of course you would :pat:

Says someone who's never been kicked in the bollocks. When you know pain like that, come back and we'll talk.

[Black Dagger]

you should be allowed to stab people in the throat and get away with it.

[Mitchell]

http://i.imgur.com/RUNizpl.gif

Don't make me out to look the bad one :p I don't want to see anyones flaps :bawling:

[Jesus.]

you should be allowed to stab people in the throat and get away with it.

I thought this was a Ninastar post for a second.

[Mitchell]

you should be allowed to stab people in the throat and get away with it.

Only if it is James Arthur or Chris Brown.

[Kizzy]

Someone post that bloke having the simulated labour.... that always cheers me up, when he sats he may vomit? Oh that's the best part.

[AnnieK]

The best part is the women in the background laughing hysterically at their pain!! They only stood it for an hour too!! Wimps

[Mitchell]

Kerry Katona isn't that bad, is that a controversial opinion?

[Alf]

World war 3 will be underway within the next 25 years

[Jesus.]

You don't need profile and private messages in quick links, when you have to move your mouse past your username and Private messages heading to get there.

[Niamh.]

You don't need profile and private messages in quick links, when you have to move your mouse past your username and Private messages heading to get there.

Wooohhhh too controversial that one

[Jesus.]

Wooohhhh too controversial that one

I did wonder whether this was sailing too close to the wind. :idc:

[Ninastar]

We'd do it with less of the moaning about childbirth. Back at work in the afternoon.

qtR_-MINR1o

[Ammi]

You don't need profile and private messages in quick links, when you have to move your mouse past your username and Private messages heading to get there.

..that's the first time I realised we had them in quick links...

[Vicky.]

Honestly, I used to think people were exaggerating a bit about labour. I mean, obviously the pushing will hurt due to the physics of it all, but that tends to be over quite quickly.

Then I had a 36 hour labour, wanted to actually kill myself, and screamed at the midwife to give me any drugs available. The actual labour/contractions hurt 1000x more than anything I have ever felt before.

Its safe to say there is no exaggeration of the pain :o

[Ninastar]

What about those suffering with severe mental illness?

if it can be proved that they are mentally unstable then they should be put in care, but otherwise, no, these people don't deserve a thing.

[Ninastar]

Honestly, I used to think people were exaggerating a bit about labour. I mean, obviously the pushing will hurt due to the physics of it all, but that tends to be over quite quickly.

Then I had a 36 hour labour, wanted to actually kill myself, and screamed at the midwife to give me any drugs available. The actual labour/contractions hurt 1000x more than anything I have ever felt before.

Its safe to say there is no exaggeration of the pain :o

it honestly makes me laugh when boys say that it can't be that painful... you're pushing a watermelon out of your vagina... what can't be that bad about that?

and there's now all these videos of men having stimulated labour on the internet... pretty interesting to hear what they say

[Jemal]

Shouldn't be to hard for a ***** anyways :idc:

[Niamh.]

http://www.curioustopic.com/images/smilies/unsure.gif

[Jesus.]

qtR_-MINR1o

Thanks for posting that, I really enjoyed watching it. Maybe 2 kicks in the bollocks then.

[Jesus.]

..that's the first time I realised we had them in quick links...

That's how controversial I can be Ammi, highlighting the controversies before they affect you.

You're welcome.

[Mitchell]

The finger song is misleading...

[Me. I Am Salman]

well

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Polygamy. People cheat anyway so might aswell make it leagal

[Jessica.]

Ghosts don't exist and anyone who believes in them needs to re-evaluate their lives.

The world wasn't created in seven days and evolution is the nearest explanation we have to how we got here today.

People in relationships should not lie about anything and should be completely truthful and honest with each other no matter what the circumstances are.

There is never an excuse to hit or physically/mverbally harm a child in any way.

[Marc]

Everybody doesn't mind/sort of like the smell of their own farts

[Me. I Am Salman]

How are those socially unacceptable to say lol
I mean stuff about immigration etc, get your inner vile bitch out

[Jordan.]

Didn't we have a controversial opinions thread http://www.upload.ee/image/2754793/The-X-Factor-USA-2012---James-Tanner-Judge_s-Houses.gif

[Kyle]

I wish organised religion would fizzle out.

I am proud to be British.


Those two are the only things I can think of.

[Ammi]

..is it just like the 'controversial opinion' thread then..?..

[Z]

Not all human life is equal and I think it's bull**** to say that it is. I think if you are a horrible person throughout your life then you are not as deserving of the right to live as anyone else and that's why I think the death penalty should be allowed.

[Kyle]

Whilst colonialism is wrong I think we get an especially hard ride out of it when most of the European powers of the Colonial Era were at it.

[Ammi]

..I think it's a conspiracy and Christmas day is March 10....

[Ninastar]

Not all human life is equal and I think it's bull**** to say that it is. I think if you are a horrible person throughout your life then you are not as deserving of the right to live as anyone else and that's why I think the death penalty should be allowed.

yeah i agree with this.

the main reason i believe in the death penalty is because if someone in my family was murdered, i'd want to see them dead too. and I think that any family who has to go through that has the right to have that belief.

[Vicky.]

I honestly don't think racism/homophobia/sexism/etc are as rife as some people would like us to believe. I think quite a lot of people use it as an excuse to be a twat and blame it on something else, if that makes sense? It sounds better to say 'oh I got a black eye for being gay' than it does to say 'oh I got this for being a wanker'

Eg. Gavin has a conviction for a homophobic attack. Whereas it was just a fight, and the person he hit (who hit Gavin's mother first, and thus earned himself the stitches!) happened to be gay. Yet played the homophobe card and the police went along with it.

I have yet to see a real issue of homophobia/racism. Thats not to say it doesn't happen..of course it does. But I don't think its as common as some would have you believe. I really don't.

[Kyle]

When you have general grievances and concerns about the rate of immigration in your town or city and your immediately hounded down as a racist/little Englander/daily mail reader.

[smeagol]

oh Now this looks like a thread for me so everybody just follow me
cuz we need a little controversy,
cuz it feels so empty without me

[Ammi]

yeah i agree with this.

the main reason i believe in the death penalty is because if someone in my family was murdered, i'd want to see them dead too. and I think that any family who has to go through that has the right to have that belief.

..I guess the way I see that though is that if someone murdered my child, that would be a deep pain for the rest of my life..I don't know how someone gets through that...so if the person who did it was also killed...would it make me feel any less pain at the loss..?..no, it wouldn't lessen it at all but it would mean that another mother of a child had to go through the same pain, so it would make me feel worse because I would have that on my conscience as well...why would I want someone else to feel what I was feeling when they didn't murder anyone..

[Z]

I honestly don't think racism/homophobia/sexism/etc are as rife as some people would like us to believe. I think quite a lot of people use it as an excuse to be a twat and blame it on something else, if that makes sense?

Eg. Gavin has a conviction for a homophobic attack. Whereas it was just a fight, and the person he hit (who hit Gavin's mother first, and thus earned himself the stitches!) happened to be gay. Yet played the homophobe card and the police went along with it.

I have yet to see a real issue of homophobia/racism. Thats not to say it doesn't happen..of course it does. But I don't think its as common as some would have you believe. I really don't.

I agree, I think that while both issues both obviously exist, people are now very quick to brand something homophobic or racist without really thinking about the accusation they are making. To be some kind of people -phobe or -ist you have to hate them and be afraid of them. Somebody using the N word or somebody referring to something as 'gay' is maybe a little bit ignorant but they're just words...

Mel Gibson is an anti-Semite. He hates Jewish people. This is well documented. There's a difference between the kind of unjustifiable hatred in that man's heart and somebody referring to somebody as a "******" or something.

[Kyle]

I believe positive discrimination is still discrimination and thus defeats the object.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I completely disagree with Vicky, homophobia and racism is still a very huge problem in this country imo (obvs not as worse as some other countries but still)

[Headie]

I completely disagree with Vicky, homophobia and racism is still a very huge problem in this country imo (obvs not as worse as some other countries but still)

I agree.

I think white people find it harder to understand the severity of racism than us black people do. I swear I hear at least one white person a day use the N word without knowing I can hear them.

One time I confronted someone over it and they replied "oh, I didn't mean to offend you and your people, one of my best friends is Asian". smh.

[Kyle]

oh Now this looks like a thread for me so everybody just follow me
cuz we need a little controversy,
cuz it feels so empty without me

Smeagol was annoying as ******* in lord of the Rings.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I agree.

I think white people find it harder to understand the severity of racism than us black people do. I swear I hear at least one white person a day use the N word without knowing I can hear them.

One time I confronted someone over it and they replied "oh, I didn't mean to offend you and your people, one of my best friends is Asian". smh.

I'm not black :p

[Kizzy]

My life would have been so different if I'd married shakin stevens ...

[smeagol]

people label falsely and tag everything these days. its like the health and safety gone mad.
i find it really sad really.

everybody wants to be a victim otherwise they are just ordinary like everybody else.
thats why you see people so quick around here to attack.

[smeagol]

Smeagol was annoying as ******* in lord of the Rings.

now that is controversial , dont say that too loud the orces would eat you

[Kyle]

I find people's obsessions with celebrities lifestyles a little disturbing.

[smeagol]

if a girl isnt bi she is not considered cool.- its the latest rage

ducks and runs for cover lol

[Redway]

I agree, I think that while both issues both obviously exist, people are now very quick to brand something homophobic or racist without really thinking about the accusation they are making. To be some kind of people -phobe or -ist you have to hate them and be afraid of them. Somebody using the N word or somebody referring to something as 'gay' is maybe a little bit ignorant but they're just words...

Mel Gibson is an anti-Semite. He hates Jewish people. This is well documented. There's a difference between the kind of unjustifiable hatred in that man's heart and somebody referring to somebody as a "******" or something.
What you and Vicky said. They remain significant issues here but are nowhere near as prominent as they often get painted out as.

And I've never understood the 'gay' thing. I know it's a sensitive thing but when people refer to things as that they're usually on about it being rubbish and the like. Maybe there's something behind it I dunno but for me it depends on the context.

Eminen's new album is an example. :p

[Lee.]

I agree, I think that while both issues both obviously exist, people are now very quick to brand something homophobic or racist without really thinking about the accusation they are making. To be some kind of people -phobe or -ist you have to hate them and be afraid of them. Somebody using the N word or somebody referring to something as 'gay' is maybe a little bit ignorant but they're just words...

Mel Gibson is an anti-Semite. He hates Jewish people. This is well documented. There's a difference between the kind of unjustifiable hatred in that man's heart and somebody referring to somebody as a "******" or something.

I disagree Greg.. Words like ****** and **** aren't just words. Over time the have become extremely derogatory terms synonymous with racism. I personally feel very insulted when anybody uses those words in front of me.

[King Gizzard]

it's not necessarily controversial and it's a bit boring for this thread but Daniel Radcliffe is the worst actor I have ever witnessed

Shame cus he's a nice and funny guy in interviews

[Ninastar]

I agree with Zee/Vicky.

[Kyle]

I disagree Greg.. Words like ****** and **** aren't just words. Over time the have become extremely derogatory terms synonymous with racism. I personally feel very insulted when anybody uses those words in front of me.

What about people on this very forum?

[Lee.]

What you and Vicky said. They remain significant issues here but are nowhere near as prominent as they often get painted out as.

And I've never understood the 'gay' thing. I know it's a sensitive thing but when people refer to things as that they're usually on about it being rubbish and the like. Maybe there's something behind it I dunno but for me it depends on the context.

Eminen's new album is an example. :p
I don't like the "gay" thing either.. It's immediately giving the word negative connotations. Young people assume gay is a bad thing.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I find Katie Hopkins hilarious
and Lord of the rings sucks

[Lee.]

What about people on this very forum?

I've never seen anybody using those words on here.

[MTVN]

I think that the Sun is a fine newspaper

[Vicky.]

I think that the Sun is a fine newspaper

Close the thread now. This has gotta be the most controversial one we are going to have :o

[Kyle]

I've never seen anybody using those words on here.

Are we talking about the word beginning with N? I have seen it plenty of times on here.

[Glenn.]

I can honestly say I have never seen the N word used on here.

[AnnieK]

I can honestly say I have never seen the N word used on here.

I'm sure it is or was in someone's user profile...not in an offensive way though

[Kyle]

Wow. I have seen it underneath people's names and in music threads.

[Vicky.]

Apparently theres a difference between using the N word, and using *****.

Personally I dont understand why anyone would want to use it either way, but thats besides the point :laugh:

[King Gizzard]

There is a difference between the two N words and a difference between it's meaning, it's about context

The one you see on here is the reclaimed word, which isn't meant to cause offence, no one has used the er version on here

A bit like when people of the Gay community use once derogatory words to try and reclaim them and soften them

[smeagol]

the n word should be banned worldwide. but if rappers want to use it and dont mind using it then i dont see how they can complain when others use it.
it sets a bad example, people either have a problem with it or they dont.
its a bit nuts dont you think

[Jake.]

Didn't ever realise there was a difference between the two apart from poor grammer lol

[Brother Leon]

the n word should be banned worldwide. but if rappers want to use it and dont mind using it then i dont see how they can complain when others use it.
it sets a bad example, people either have a problem with it or they dont.
its a bit nuts dont you think

No it isn't nuts at all. It is all about the history of the word. It is known that Black people took the word and made it it's own and changed the context of it.

Also, if you are trying to imply that it should be used by everyone or no one at all, then you are barking up the wrong tree. There is no reason for a white person to have to use it really is there?

Verbal or whoever it was that used it probably already knew this, but of course saw an opportunity to wind someone up and prove a point that isn't even a valid point lol..

Anyway there was already a thread about why it can be used and can't be used and by who, but I've been there done that.

[King Gizzard]

There is no reason for a white person to have to use it really is there?

This as well

That's not to say I particularly like it being used though, I just don't think it''s meant to be offensive, but it still causes a divide if one person can use it and not the other

I guess as another example is some Tottenham fans calling themselves Yids, and when the FA/police tried to crack down on it David Cameron backed them up with a fairly similar argument about trying to change the context of the word and trying to use the word as a positive

[Headie]

I'm not black :p

I know but I am :p

[Marc]

I don't often care about celebrity deaths

[Me. I Am Salman]

I know but I am :p

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[Headie]

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[King Gizzard]

I don't often care about celebrity deaths

I often feel there's alot of fake sadness when there is one, I get that there are those who are fans of said person, so yeah, they'd be sad (and this doesn't include Paul Walker because it's obvious that Paul Walker is quite a big celebrity which alot of people would know and care about)

[Headie]

I'm mixed-race (you should know that by now :laugh:) and I am offended by the N word, whether it's used by a black person or white person. My friend is also black and he's offended by the N word too.

I also get offended by the word half-caste. I didn't know why but I was always just taught that it was offensive, and I looked it up and it's something to do with cast meaning "pure" and if you're only half pure then that means you're half dirty, which is racist I suppose. I prefer the term 'mixed race' tbh.

[smeagol]

No it isn't nuts at all. It is all about the history of the word. It is known that Black people took the word and made it it's own and changed the context of it.

Also, if you are trying to imply that it should be used by everyone or no one at all, then you are barking up the wrong tree. There is no reason for a white person to have to use it really is there?

Verbal or whoever it was that used it probably already knew this, but of course saw an opportunity to wind someone up and prove a point that isn't even a valid point lol..

Anyway there was already a thread about why it can be used and can't be used and by who, but I've been there done that.

no one has made their own though. it should not be used. my point is they shouldnt moan when white guys use it if they are using it. you cant say it then someone else say it then call them racist .
if the word really does mean nothing anymore then there should be no problem. but it does therefore it shouldnt be used.

[Ammi]

..I think it's really assuming and disrespectful to think that a certain grieving over a celebrity death is false...one person may be just another celebrity to someone but they could be an idol to someone else ...an idol of their youth/someone they grew up with and there are very real emotions attached to that...or if it's someone very young and it's sudden and someone so full of life/talented etc...there is a real shock and yeah, a grief attached to that because we watch them on our screen and they make us feel, laugh, cry etc....it's not the same as with a family member/friend but it's still very real...it's also a reminder of mortality and very thought provoking that anything could happen to any of us at any time....with sudden deaths without illness, I mean...for me it's kind of, yeah that might not be what you feel and that's fine, no one expects it of you but don't dismiss other people's feelings or interpret them as an over- reaction ...it's very personal and individual...

[Ninastar]

It's wrong that some people can use the word ***** and other people can. Either you think it's wrong for anyone to say it, not just people who aren't black.

I think it's most common in black rappers

[Vicky.]

I have no desire to ever use that word, I can't think of a time when I would ever feel the need to either. However I do feel it causes more divides and such when a certain group are told they cant while its fine for others.

I get that there's a big history and stuff, but I still feel that anything that separates us isn't good in this day and age, if you get me?

I don't totally understand the reclaiming thing either if I am honest. I know this example is going to come across as trivializing history but I can't think of another way to put it...if I had been called a speccy bitch while being bullied badly at school, no way would I ever think oh well, lets change the meaning of it and start referring to myself as that? I would never want to hear that again.

Its probably just one of those things that am totally missing the point of though. But it has always confused me why a word with such bad history surrounding it is used so often among certain groups :shrug:

[Gstar]

I say ***** all the time, I even call some of my white friends *****. Imo it comes down to everyone being different and living different lives

[smeagol]

I have no desire to ever use that word, I can't think of a time when I would ever feel the need to either. However I do feel it causes more divides and such when a certain group are told they cant while its fine for others.

I get that there's a big history and stuff, but I still feel that anything that separates us isn't good in this day and age, if you get me?

I don't totally understand the reclaiming thing either if I am honest. I know this example is going to come across as trivializing history but I can't think of another way to put it...if I had been called a speccy bitch while being bullied badly at school, no way would I ever think oh well, lets change the meaning of it and start referring to myself as that? I would never want to hear that again.

Its probably just one of those things that am totally missing the point of though. But it has always confused me why a word with such bad history surrounding it is used so often among certain groups :shrug:

exactly there should be no divides. and the word causes divides already people are saying black and white and mixed race. when no one should even care ,it should be john bill joe for example not black white mixed.
staight away one word causes divides that weren't there and shouldn't be there.
The word is offensive to all in my view. those who claim they are reclaiming it back are liars as its not being used in that contex a lot of the time.

[Me. I Am Salman]

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[Brother Leon]

exactly there should be no divides. and the word causes divides already people are saying black and white and mixed race. when no one should even care ,it should be john bill joe for example not black white mixed.
staight away one word causes divides that weren't there and shouldn't be there.
The word is offensive to all in my view. those who claim they are reclaiming it back are liars as its not being used in that contex a lot of the time.

What context is it being used in then? :joker:

[Nemo123]

Right! This thread is closed!

Reason: Too Long!

[Benjamin]

I genuinely find 90% of people I meet absolutely dire, dull and just another bland lifeless existence who are wasting their short time.

[Nemo123]

I genuinely find 90% of people I meet absolutely dire, dull and just another bland lifeless existence who are wasting their short time.


How do you fit in the time to make 45,000 posts?

[Nemo123]

Just think of all the time you wasted when you could have been sleeping.

[Mystic Mock]

I genuinely find 90% of people I meet absolutely dire, dull and just another bland lifeless existence who are wasting their short time.

Wow you must have had something bad happen to you recently.:joker:

I believe that certain Drugs should be legalized in this country.

[Ninastar]

i think people have the right to not believe in gay marriage and that does not make them homophobic/hate gay people

[Nemo123]

I think I have to right to point out an individual who's lapping up the publicity about a tragic accident in scotland, before the tragic fate of his father is even known, is like a Jeremy Kyle guest.

[Benjamin]

How do you fit in the time to make 45,000 posts?

Because I am one of those people. ;)

[Nemo123]

Because I am one of those people. ;)
So I am. But I choose to sleep instead.

[Josy]

Why do celebrities need to announce anything about their sexuality? aren't they then just making into a 'big thing' to be discussed when they could just you know not?

Cant they just be what they are and leave it at that without announcing to the world as if everyone gives a ****...

[arista]

Why do celebrities need to announce anything about their sexuality? aren't they then just making into a 'big thing' to be discussed when they could just you know not?

Cant they just be what they are and leave it at that without announcing to the world as if everyone gives a ****...


Maybe he was seen in a gay bar
and a Paper could put that out.

[reece(:]

Why do celebrities need to announce anything about their sexuality? aren't they then just making into a 'big thing' to be discussed when they could just you know not?

Cant they just be what they are and leave it at that without announcing to the world as if everyone gives a ****...
In most cases, it's the news channels that were going to make a deal out of it whether someone announces it or not

[Ninastar]

It's the news channels that were going to make a deal out of it whether he announced it or not

this.

and the fact that if he went out with his boyfriend or was papped at a gay bar, it's not fair on him because it would be twisted and said that he's a liar/closet case/bad example to fellow gays etc. if he does it in his own way, then he has full control. plus he said he still likes girls which is huge because the news papers would just say he's gay... when he says he's apparently not.

[reece(:]

I edited my post to fit the general consensus since I think Josy wasn't specifying Tom Daley's case but the point stands.... it is news channels and online media that make massive deals out of it.

[reece(:]

And I agree with Nina's post^

[lily.]

why do celebrities need to announce anything about their sexuality? Aren't they then just making into a 'big thing' to be discussed when they could just you know not?

Cant they just be what they are and leave it at that without announcing to the world as if everyone gives a ****...

thisssssssssssssssss

[Jack_]

Why do celebrities need to announce anything about their sexuality? aren't they then just making into a 'big thing' to be discussed when they could just you know not?

Cant they just be what they are and leave it at that without announcing to the world as if everyone gives a ****...

More to the point, why do journalists feel the need to ask questions to celebrities about their private lives when it comes to relationships? Why the ****** do they need to ask a professional diver if he has a girlfriend? How is it relevant, important or necessary? This is why celebrities feel the need to announce stuff like this, because they're constantly questioned about it by journalists and paps that need to ****** off out of their business. It's festering a bizarre celebrity obsessed culture where so many people are seemingly so bothered about who people they don't even know are having relationships with.

Once journalists start doing their jobs properly, the obsession will end and the celebrities won't feel the need to discuss such issues anymore.

[MTVN]

Eh I'd say it's more that the papers and news are only really fulfilling a public demand for all this celebrity gossip, they're more a symptom than a cause, like the story was the most read one on the BBC news site all day and the DM article for it had nearly 2,000 people commenting

I don't even think it's a new thing particularly either, the public have always been interested in the personal lives of those who are in the public eye a lot

[Jack_]

And I honestly believe that the interest stems from the media reporting on celebrities personal lives, but it has definitely worsened in the last few years

There's a real issue IMO about asking certain people about their relationships, I mean seriously what relevance does Tom Daley's relationship status have when he's stood next to a diving board at the Olympics? Why are journalists asking these questions? Something needs to change because they shouldn't even be allowed to question that sort of thing unless the person brings it up themselves

[fingers]

Eh I'd say it's more that the papers and news are only really fulfilling a public demand for all this celebrity gossip, they're more a symptom than a cause, like the story was the most read one on the BBC news site all day and the DM article for it had nearly 2,000 people commenting

I don't even think it's a new thing particularly either, the public have always been interested in the personal lives of those who are in the public eye a lot

You only have to have a look at what the "News of the World" was printing back in the 1940's and 1950's!

Edit: Libel Laws may have prevented them from naming names, but everyone knew who was being written about!

[Vicky.]

Bumping this as I found some of the answers fascinating.

[the truth]

In my experience, American people are extremely obnoxious and difficult to get on with.

American people on average are friendlier than my fellow englishmen and women

[the truth]

Why do celebrities need to announce anything about their sexuality? aren't they then just making into a 'big thing' to be discussed when they could just you know not?

Cant they just be what they are and leave it at that without announcing to the world as if everyone gives a ****...

clearly they do it to make money , the way gareth thomas did to sell his grubby book...the weak minded or those who wanted to appear good on tv went along with the nonsense..I notice mickey rourke saw sense and didnt bother making the movies about his rather dull life

[the truth]

Im pretty confident the meat in indian take aways is not as advertised

[the truth]

muscle on women is sexy and is not unfeminine as some suggest....just as long as its not accompanied with steroids and goatee beards

[joe199998293]

That I wish Justin Bieber was gay

[T*]

Why do celebrities need to announce anything about their sexuality? aren't they then just making into a 'big thing' to be discussed when they could just you know not?

Cant they just be what they are and leave it at that without announcing to the world as if everyone gives a ****...

I was going to say this!

[Ninastar]

i hate seeing all this cisgender/bigender/pansgender/queerstraight **** all over the internet...

i think if you are what you're born with. A dick or a vagina makes you who you are and if you don't like it, then change it...

seriously, i saw something on tumblr saying 'people with vaginas...' and then someone said you mean girls? and then the person was like 'no i mean people with vaginas cause not everyone with a vagina is a girl...' LIKE REALLY?

Jesus christ

its just PC gone mad

[T*]

Why do we have to come out? Surely if it's okay we don't have to do it? It doesn't make sense to me why you have to tell your parents/friends/family that you're gay or bi, surely you can just get on with it and be with who you want to be with; no need to announce it.

[Vicky.]

i hate seeing all this cisgender/bigender/pansgender/queerstraight **** all over the internet...

i think if you are what you're born with. A dick or a vagina makes you who you are and if you don't like it, then change it...

seriously, i saw something on tumblr saying 'people with vaginas...' and then someone said you mean girls? and then the person was like 'no i mean people with vaginas cause not everyone with a vagina is a girl...' LIKE REALLY?

Jesus christ

its just PC gone mad

ROFL. Thats ridiculous :joker:

[joe199998293]

Why do we have to come out? Surely if it's okay we don't have to do it? It doesn't make sense to me why you have to tell your parents/friends/family that you're gay or bi, surely you can just get on with it and be with who you want to be with; no need to announce it.

You should just be able to come home one day with someone, maybe someone of the same gender and just say, "this is my boyfriend/girlfriend" and then get on with your life.

[Ninastar]

^ as great as that sounds, it will never really happen because most people (sadly) are straight.

[Vicky.]

You should just be able to come home one day with someone, maybe someone of the same gender and just say, "this is my boyfriend/girlfriend" and then get on with your life.

Tbf most people probably could do that anyway.

Its a more interesting way of 'coming out'...thats for sure :laugh:

[Smithy]

Why do we have to come out? Surely if it's okay we don't have to do it? It doesn't make sense to me why you have to tell your parents/friends/family that you're gay or bi, surely you can just get on with it and be with who you want to be with; no need to announce it.

Heteronormativity is why

[Vicky.]

^Thats actually how my friend did it. His mum never batted an eyelid

[Smithy]

idk if it's controversial, but it pisses me off no end, when people have no money, because they've spent it all on stupid ****

a friend of mine got paid £1200 on friday and by saturday she has £90 to last her until NEXT month, because she was so far in her overdraft, spending it on **** she doesn't need, and going out every weekend because she needs to get drunk, it pisses me off i tell ya :fist:

[Ninastar]

idk if it's controversial, but it pisses me off no end, when people have no money, because they've spent it all on stupid ****

a friend of mine got paid £1200 on friday and by saturday she has £90 to last her until NEXT month, because she was so far in her overdraft, spending it on **** she doesn't need, and going out every weekend because she needs to get drunk, it pisses me off i tell ya :fist:

nope, I totally agree... I rarely ever feel bad for people who go into debt. Its almost always their own fault

when i was unemployed, i managed to make my ****ty wage last about 6 weeks...

[Jack_]

Why do we have to come out? Surely if it's okay we don't have to do it? It doesn't make sense to me why you have to tell your parents/friends/family that you're gay or bi, surely you can just get on with it and be with who you want to be with; no need to announce it.

Because heterosexuality is (wrongly) seem as 'normal', being gay is 'different' whether people treat them equally or not

It'll change though, generation after generation these things always do as people become more tolerant and open to new ideas. So I'm sure one day but perhaps not in our life times people will ask questions like 'so do you have a partner then?' rather than 'do you have a girlfriend?' if you're a guy and vice versa if you're a girl

[Smithy]

nope, I totally agree... I rarely ever feel bad for people who go into debt. Its almost always their own fault

when i was unemployed, i managed to make my ****ty wage last about 6 weeks...

me too!

I left my job in the middle of march and i've still got about £600 saved up and I don't plan on spending any of it on anything apart from necessities until I start working again, honestly don't understand how people can have such a poor grasp on their money

[Ninastar]

me too!

I left my job in the middle of march and i've still got about £600 saved up and I don't plan on spending any of it on anything apart from necessities until I start working again, honestly don't understand how people can have such a poor grasp on their money

if we lived together, we'd do so well :flutter::flutter::flutter::flutter:

we'd have schedules for pizza and everything

[Smithy]

if we lived together, we'd do so well :flutter::flutter::flutter::flutter:

we'd have schedules for pizza and everything

omg ikr, we'd probably go on holidays to florida/Australia/the Maldives every year we'd manage our money so well :flutter:

[Jessica.]

I forgot to say I also ate a fruit salad today.

[Ninastar]

omg ikr, we'd probably go on holidays to florida/Australia/the Maldives every year we'd manage our money so well :flutter:

omg we actually would
:flutter::flutter::flutter:

tbh we'd probably have amazon deliveries every day though

[Jack_]

I forgot to say I also ate a fruit salad today.

you are an abomination, I've never heard anything so disgusting :fist:

[T*]

I forgot to say I also ate a fruit salad today.

That is a VILE OPINION, JESSICA! :bored:

[Smithy]

I forgot to say I also ate a fruit salad today.
disgusting :bored:
omg we actually would
:flutter::flutter::flutter:

tbh we'd probably have amazon deliveries every day though

omg, that's literally what it was like when i was working

[Vicky.]

If someone is on life support and theres a very large risk of them being in a vegetative state if they ever come off it, I think doctors should be able to pull the plug against the families consent.

I think it is just selfish for families to keep their loved ones alive in those cases. Honestly, who would want to live like that themselves?

[Marsh.]

i hate seeing all this cisgender/bigender/pansgender/queerstraight **** all over the internet...

i think if you are what you're born with. A dick or a vagina makes you who you are and if you don't like it, then change it...

seriously, i saw something on tumblr saying 'people with vaginas...' and then someone said you mean girls? and then the person was like 'no i mean people with vaginas cause not everyone with a vagina is a girl...' LIKE REALLY?

Jesus christ

its just PC gone mad

:laugh2:

If someone is on life support and theres a very large risk of them being in a vegetative state if they ever come off it, I think doctors should be able to pull the plug against the families consent.

I think it is just selfish for families to keep their loved ones alive in those cases. Honestly, who would want to live like that themselves?

:eek:
If you were my family I'd pull my own plug out.

[the truth]

I think the push for eutheanaisa is one of the worst things most immoral things in the history of the UK
its being pushed by certain groups simply to kill off older people because we cannot afford to keep them....unless of course theyre multi millionaires
the do not resuscitate rules ar ebeing massively abused in hsopital sby doctors and nurses, resulting in abnormally high death rates
nurses actively and deliberately and systematically refuse to feed and give patients fluids
why? well firstly because they dont give patients enough swlalow tests, and therefore are scared the patient will choke on drinks and dont want the blame. theyre too damn lazy to thicken drinks to help patients swallow
the entire culture is now rushing people to agree to DNR's and allow their relatives to die...they pressurise the hell out of peoplein their weakest emotional state.
this is all 100000001 times crueller than the desire of some to keep people alive who MAY have some brain damage down the line
anyone who disagress with what Ive just written is plain wrong but may nt realise until he or she is in this life or death situation or a loved one is. I pray to goodness youre mentally and emotionally ready for the disgusting practices of many in the disastrous NHS

[Firewire]

delete i realise i'm a mess and this was a lie that i didn't think through

[Smithy]

i'm not racist but if i was in a room full of black people and i was the only white person i would feel so uncomfortable and want to leave ~controversial


:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Vicky.]

:eek:
If you were my family I'd pull my own plug out.

You dont think its selfish to want someone to live a totally empty life (I'm talking about totally gone mind..unable to move..understand...everything, not slightly brain damaged where you can still find enjoyment in things) simply to keep them with you?

[Firewire]

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

I DIDN'T THINK IT THROUGH

i realise if i went to africa it wouldn't bother me it's indian people i think

[Marsh.]

I DIDN'T THINK IT THROUGH

i realise if i went to africa it wouldn't bother me it's indian people i think

:laugh2:

[Marsh.]

You dont think its selfish to want someone to live a totally empty life (I'm talking about totally gone mind..unable to move..understand...everything, not slightly brain damaged where you can still find enjoyment in things) simply to keep them with you?

I actually agree I was just being facetious about your blunt way of putting it. :laugh:

In fact, maybe people should add things like this to wills. What they would like to happen should certain things like this occur. I know it's morbid but...

[T*]

I DIDN'T THINK IT THROUGH

i realise if i went to africa it wouldn't bother me it's indian people i think

:laugh2:

[Smithy]

I DIDN'T THINK IT THROUGH

i realise if i went to africa it wouldn't bother me it's indian people i think

:laugh3:

[Shaun]

jonathan goody

[Jessica.]

oh this was the wrong thread, oh well, some of the apple was rotten and I still ate it
ooooohhh~ controversial~~~

[Vicky.]

I actually agree I was just being facetious about your blunt way of putting it. :laugh:

In fact, maybe people should add things like this to wills. What they would like to happen should certain things like this occur. I know it's morbid but...

Yeah I guess thats a way of doing it too.

I told my family years ago that I want the plug pulled if anything like that happened to me (thought I added severely physically disabled, not totally vegetated). My mum told me to stop being so morbid, but even the thought of still being all there mentally but totally unable to move or something terrifies me so much and I would rather not experience it

[Firewire]

omfg i'm not jade goody i love indian people

[Vicky.]

Having said that, a few months after my mum told me that y wishes were morbid, she (seriously) asked me if I would help her to die if she ever wanted me to. She had a plan about it too..apparently I am to hand her pills if she is unable to move for them..or take her to a cliff in her wheelchair and just push her off D:

She also wants me to smuggle malibu and ciggies in for her if she ever ends up in an old peoples home.

That was a lovely conversation.

[Smithy]

omfg i'm not jade goody i love indian people

he literally just texted me something that was the exact opposite of this :idc:

[Jordan.]

or take her to a cliff in her wheelchair and just push her off D:

http://i1.minus.com/jbf6Qb7gqxEZ9u.jpg

[Firewire]

he literally just texted me something that was the exact opposite of this :idc:

smithy literally texted me to say that he agreed with what i said and that he was glad someone could spill the tea (his words)

[T*]

I hate the Scouse accent, especially when people put it on. It's horrible and I grates on me, but I don't want to cause offense.

[Smithy]

smithy literally texted me to say that he agreed with what i said and that he was glad someone could spill the tea (his words)

Lies :idc:

he also just implied Indian People should be shot smfh Jonathan

[Marsh.]

Having said that, a few months after my mum told me that y wishes were morbid, she (seriously) asked me if I would help her to die if she ever wanted me to. She had a plan about it too..apparently I am to hand her pills if she is unable to move for them..or take her to a cliff in her wheelchair and just push her off D:

She also wants me to smuggle malibu and ciggies in for her if she ever ends up in an old peoples home.

That was a lovely conversation.

:joker:

[Marsh.]

I hate the Scouse accent, especially when people put it on. It's horrible and I grates on me, but I don't want to cause offense.

I quit your game. :sad:

[Shaun]

LOL Vicky. I was surprised to discover this hospice I had to go to last week (my aunt's dying) has these trollies that go around at mealtimes offering the patients something to drink and it's stacked with alcohol :laugh: there're smoking rooms too.

[Brother Leon]

Who would put on the most horrid accent in Britain :suspect:

[Firewire]

i think scott should be unbanned

don't infract me because this is controversial opinions

[T*]

I quit your game. :sad:

:bawling:

[T*]

i think scott should be unbanned

don't infract me because this is controversial opinions

Same, I think he's served way enough time. He should've been unbanned months ago.

[Vicky.]

LOL Vicky. I was surprised to discover this hospice I had to go to last week (my aunt's dying) has these trollies that go around at mealtimes offering the patients something to drink and it's stacked with alcohol :laugh: there're smoking rooms too.

Maybe I should send my mum there instead. Would be a lot easier :D

In all seriousness though, this is how they should all be I think. Despite needing care, these people (mostly) still have their own minds and as such should be able to decide if they want a drink and a fag or not.

Though I guess then the staff have the problem of possible drunk patients...and I dont quite know how someone who was mentally ill would be handled alcohol wise...allow them or not allow? If they dont know what they are doing etc...hmm

[Jessica.]

i think scott should be unbanned

don't infract me because this is controversial opinions

Yes, I agree, he should be unbanned. :love:

[T*]

Who would put on the most horrid accent in Britain :suspect:

Trust me, people in my school put it on D:

[Marsh.]

What was Scott banned for?

[T*]

What was Scott banned for?

Long story short:
TiBB + Anon Tumblr Burn Blog = insults against users galore

[Marsh.]

Long story short:
TiBB + Anon Tumblr Burn Blog = insults against users galore

Oh yeah I remember all that. How long ago was it?

[Firewire]

caitlin's post about the whole gender thing i agree so much i would quote it but i cba

[T*]

Oh yeah I remember all that. How long ago was it?

August or September

[Marsh.]

caitlin's post about the whole gender thing i agree so much i would quote it but i cba

Africans, Indians, People with vaginas... anyone else? :fist:

[Firewire]

Africans, Indians, People with vaginas... anyone else? :fist:

people who identify as animals

[Jack_]

The Liverpudlian accent is the best British accent <333

[Vicky.]

The Liverpudlian accent is the best British accent <333

I know this thread is a bout controversial opinions, but lets not get TOO carried away :umm2:

[Jack_]

:joker:

I need a Scouser in my life

[the truth]

i think losing your career and your home and going bankrupt just for making a harmless comment about female lineswoman not knowing the offside rule is a tad harsh
then again who cares if hes a man

[Kizzy]

Where shall I start?..... :joker:

[the truth]

oh and theres absolutely no sexism against women in the UK at all. the only sexism left is against men.

[Marsh.]

oh and theres absolutely no sexism against women in the UK at all. the only sexism left is against men.

:joker:

[Jake.]

I'm not even going to bother :laugh:

[Jack_]

oh and theres absolutely no sexism against women in the UK at all. the only sexism left is against men.

Yes the fact that women are

- Demonised for sleeping around and labelled 'sluts' whilst men are paraded around as heroes among their peers for doing the same
- Objectified by the press and pressurised into worrying about the way they look all the time
- Not as well represented in politics as much as men
- Still not earning as much as men in a lot of professions
- Prohibited from reaching as higher positions as men because of a glass ceiling effect (this problem is mainly worse for working class women too which is a different issue altogether)

...amongst many, many others, are definitely not examples of sexism

Look, sexism works both ways and yes I agree in that there are issues facing men that need addressing but to shrug off injustices towards other groups which don't interest you and pretend that inequality towards them doesn't exist is just pathetic

[Firewire]

oh and theres absolutely no sexism against women in the UK at all. the only sexism left is against men.

i think it's interesting that your username is "the truth" when all you seem to do is spout bollocks

[T*]

i think it's interesting that your username is "the truth" when all you seem to do is spout bollocks

:worship:

[Jack_]

i think it's interesting that your username is "the truth" when all you seem to do is spout bollocks

:joker: :joker: :joker:

it's sweet, beautiful irony

[the truth]

yes the fact that women are

- demonised for sleeping around and labelled 'sluts' whilst men are paraded around as heroes among their peers for doing the same
absolute outdated rubbish. A cheat is a cheat

- objectified by the press and pressurised into worrying about the way they look all the time- by other women not by men

- not as well represented in politics as much as men
its a democracy if they want to stand and fight they can

- still not earning as much as men in a lot of professions
because over a lifetime they do not on average commit as many full time hours to their professions. Additionally there are certain careers which involve physical risk which pay a lot and women do not apply for those roles in such great numbers.

- prohibited from reaching as higher positions as men because of a glass ceiling effect (this problem is mainly worse for working class women too which is a different issue altogether)- they are not prohibited from anything that is simply untrue

...amongst many, many others, are definitely not examples of sexism
all your examples i have 100% refuted in a minute




look, sexism works both ways and yes i agree in that there are issues facing men that need addressing but to shrug off injustices towards other groups which don't interest you and pretend that inequality towards them doesn't exist is just pathetic

it doesnt exist against women at all in the uk anymore
it does exist against men in a massive scale
the filth thats spouted against all men
the fact fathers have vastly fewer rights
the fact they lose thir homes, their children and most f their live savings in most divorces
the fact men commit suicide at 4 times the rate as women
the fact the amount of support agencies outnumber those for men by 100s
the fact vastly more government money is spent on womens health
the fact women outlive men by 5 years on average
the fact women on average spend more than men
the fact in mainstream media and in the working environment women are culturally allowed to say almost anything sexist they like and get away with it and men arent allowed any leeway
the fact the nhs actually pays for women to have plastic boobs
the fact women in many sex cases are allowed to falsely accuse men and destroy their lives yet almost never get sent to prison for false accusation

the list goes on

[the truth]

:joker: :joker: :joker:

it's sweet, beautiful irony

the truth speaks the truth, the only irony is you dont see it

[Marsh.]

I bet you're a Daily Fail reader. They aim their articles at the gullible/simple market.

[Jack_]

1) That isn't irony

2) Who said anything about cheating? Eh? Sleeping around doesn't mean cheating? Single promiscuous women that have multiple sexual partners are labelled as 'sluts' and 'slags' yet if a man does the same he is celebrated among his friends and doesn't face half as much criticism as a woman does. This is not outdated rubbish, it is a FACT

3) Yes women do perpetuate the problem regarding appearance fixation and I think that's a sad thing to see but no they do not start the problem, men are the editors of most newspapers and they oversee the content and types of articles that are published. The Mail Online is the worst for this, their depictions and descriptions of women are vile

4) The suicide rate being higher among men is a very big problem and the root causes need addressing as do solutions but that is not sexist? Are you suggesting women cause suicide?

5) The same applies to women outliving men, yes an issue but women don't decide that...that's not sexist either. A problem, but not sexist


I just don't get why you cherry pick inequality that suits you and what you're interested in? It exists for many groups in society, not just men or disabled people. Just because it's not as important for you it does not mean that it doesn't exist and to suggest so is ****ing laughable

[Kizzy]

I think he has a point in some respects especially the rights of fathers tbf.
That's not me being controversial either, I just happen to share that opinion.

[Jack_]

Of course he does, there are definitely inequalities facing men and yes these are problems that need to be looked at but that does not mean that women are equal and there aren't cases of sexism facing them too. There's injustices and inequalities facing all types of groups of people, to ignore some and to pretend they're problems that don't exist just because you have no connection to them/understanding of them/interest in them is pathetic

[Marsh.]

:laugh2: Women outliving men is sexist?

Are they killing us off now?

[Kizzy]

*hexes marsh*

[the truth]

1) That isn't irony

2) Who said anything about cheating? Eh? Sleeping around doesn't mean cheating? Single promiscuous women that have multiple sexual partners are labelled as 'sluts' and 'slags' yet if a man does the same he is celebrated among his friends and doesn't face half as much criticism as a woman does. This is not outdated rubbish, it is a FACT

3) Yes women do perpetuate the problem regarding appearance fixation and I think that's a sad thing to see but no they do not start the problem, men are the editors of most newspapers and they oversee the content and types of articles that are published. The Mail Online is the worst for this, their depictions and descriptions of women are vile

4) The suicide rate being higher among men is a very big problem and the root causes need addressing as do solutions but that is not sexist? Are you suggesting women cause suicide?

5) The same applies to women outliving men, yes an issue but women don't decide that...that's not sexist either. A problem, but not sexist


I just don't get why you cherry pick inequality that suits you and what you're interested in? It exists for many groups in society, not just men or disabled people. Just because it's not as important for you it does not mean that it doesn't exist and to suggest so is ****ing laughable

you cherry pick inequality tht suits you and always that bashes men. clealry youve been brainwashed by the radical liberal pro feminazi agenda

[the truth]

Of course he does, there are definitely inequalities facing men and yes these are problems that need to be looked at but that does not mean that women are equal and there aren't cases of sexism facing them too. There's injustices and inequalities facing all types of groups of people, to ignore some and to pretend they're problems that don't exist just because you have no connection to them/understanding of them/interest in them is pathetic

no one is equal to anything. its a meaningless word. everyone is different. you need to relearn how to use that word

[Loukas]

this thread :laugh:

[the truth]

1) That isn't irony

2) Who said anything about cheating? Eh? Sleeping around doesn't mean cheating? Single promiscuous women that have multiple sexual partners are labelled as 'sluts' and 'slags' yet if a man does the same he is celebrated among his friends and doesn't face half as much criticism as a woman does. This is not outdated rubbish, it is a FACT

It is utter rubbish. its seen as ust the same, youre way way behind the times. in fact women show off about their sexual conquests and discuss their intimate carnal pursuits with other people far far more than men

3) Yes women do perpetuate the problem regarding appearance fixation and I think that's a sad thing to see but no they do not start the problem, men are the editors of most newspapers and they oversee the content and types of articles that are published. The Mail Online is the worst for this, their depictions and descriptions of women are vile

women are the main creators of this pressure. they pressurise each other. very very rarely do you hear men pressurise women over their appearance, compared to how women pressurise other women. your generalisation and attack on the mail is so predictable and as ever plays to the liberal TIBB gallery. the mail is a vast media outlet that carries more news stories and info than all other UK papers combined

4) The suicide rate being higher among men is a very big problem and the root causes need addressing as do solutions but that is not sexist? Are you suggesting women cause suicide?

Im suggesting we dont talk about it, we dont do anything about it. im suggesting the entire anti men , male bashing uk culture is massively responsible for the massive male suicide rate. this isnt helped by the fact vastly less is spent on male problems, supporting men and on mens health too
of course the fact men lose most paternity suits and divorce cases all creates massive pressures which often lead to male suicides. but of course its barely ever discussed in mainstream tv. in fact ive never ever seen it even mentioned on the bbcs flagship political program question time. better to talk about womens problems eveyr week non stop



5) The same applies to women outliving men, yes an issue but women don't decide that...that's not sexist either. A problem, but not sexist

all the mitigating factors against men lead to their premature deaths. they work longer hours on average, give more of their income away than do women on average. they lose their homes and kids in most divorces. they have far less support from all sorts of organizations and from the government. any institutes for abused husbands? why not? oh yes men are 20 pounds heavier and 2 inches taller so somehow they therefore need less support?


I just don't get why you cherry pick inequality that suits you and what you're interested in? It exists for many groups in society, not just men or disabled people. Just because it's not as important for you it does not mean that it doesn't exist and to suggest so is ****ing laughable

sexism against women doesnt exist in the UK at all

for you to suggest sexism isnt far greater against men in the Uk now, is laughable

[Marsh.]

sexism against women doesnt exist in the UK at all

for you to suggest sexism isnt far greater against men in the Uk now, is laughable

*purposely says the opposite of what you're saying and you're laughable because that's what trolls do*

[Marsh.]

*hexes marsh*

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[Kizzy]

We are taking over the world.....
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[Marsh.]

I wonder where he's sticking that camera. :laugh:

[the truth]

*purposely says the opposite of what you're saying and you're laughable because that's what trolls do*

accusing other of trolling is always the last refuge of the scoundrel.,...enjoy your last refuge

[the truth]

We are taking over the world.....
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no youre not. youre just trying to find short cuts to the top. trouble with that is, when you get there you wont be qualified to do the job because you didnt get there on merit. then you get replaced by the better candidate onmerit, before the world falls apart.

[Marsh.]

accusing other of trolling is always the last refuge of the scoundrel.,...enjoy your last refuge

Oooh, I'm a scoundrel.

[Marsh.]

no youre not. youre just trying to find short cuts to the top. trouble with that is, when you get there you wont be qualified to do the job because you didnt get there on merit. then you get replaced by the better candidate onmerit, before the world falls apart.

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[Kyle]

I've always thought one of the main reasons women get called sluts for sleeping around and men studs because any woman could easily get willing sexual partners just by asking whereas for men to have the same effect they either have to be extraordinarily good looking or have a tongue made of pure silver.

[Natalie.]

I hate the Scouse accent, especially when people put it on. It's horrible and I grates on me, but I don't want to cause offense.

I love the scouse accent :flutter:

[T*]

I bet you're a Daily Fail reader. They aim their articles at the gullible/simple market.

Vile newspaper.

[T*]

I love the scouse accent :flutter:

You may but being around it all the time at school is horrid D:

[Gstar]

I think that Salman is shy irl. just my opinion

[Me. I Am Salman]

I've kinda mellowed recently, but in secondary school no way :laugh: I was definitely a nightmare, always talkative, never afraid of revealing how I felt and generally just behaving however I wanted without giving a damn about what anyone else thought tbh. Had a lot of friends & teachers who liked me for it but then there were people and even teachers who despised me, got into a fair few fights and exclusions because of it. Calmed down a bit in the last couple of years except for geography where most of the lesson consisted of me arguing with my teacher & 60% of the class. And when I began college I calmed down even more, I'm just your average boring person now. I cringe SO hard at how I used to be

[the truth]

clearly women have taken for granted and taken advantageous of the bravery and chivalry of so many men. its funny how we never heard the feminists complain when it was women and children and first to be saved in times of crisis? yet thousands of british men have given up their lives for their women and children down the years. just a small matter of allowing themselves to die to save their beloved. sexist pigs but hey whats death compared to some woman who sleeps around being called a slag eh? the values are plain mental

[Brother Leon]

I think behind the clear agenda...the truth is trying to say that the world isn't as anti women as it may be made out by some feminist groups. Both sexes are discriminated against and have disadvantages in life. It's abit silly to dismiss discrimination towards women entirely though,just as it would be for men. It's just a case of it applying for both sexes and it's just the world we live in unfortunately.

I think that's what he mean anyway :p

[Vicky.]

I think behind the clear agenda...the truth is trying to say that the world isn't as anti women as it may be made out by some feminist groups. Both sexes are discriminated against and have disadvantages in life. It's abit silly to dismiss discrimination towards women entirely though,just as it would be for men. It's just a case of it applying for both sexes and it's just the world we live in unfortunately.

I think that's what he mean anyway :p
I would agree with this.

[Niamh.]

I think behind the clear agenda...the truth is trying to say that the world isn't as anti women as it may be made out by some feminist groups. Both sexes are discriminated against and have disadvantages in life. It's abit silly to dismiss discrimination towards women entirely though,just as it would be for men. It's just a case of it applying for both sexes and it's just the world we live in unfortunately.

I think that's what he mean anyway :p

Brother Leon - The peaceful translator :laugh:

[Marsh.]

I think that Salman is shy irl. just my opinion

I just did a google search of the forum and Salman popped up as a search suggestion.

:suspect: Is Salman the most famous Tibber?

[the truth]

women are discriminated against horrifically in many countries , but not in ours and not really in europe. there are of course plenty of men abused and discriminated against too....the real war has never ever been of the sexes, its not even between religions not really, they are usually groups of people who leaders have deliberately set against each other....divide and conquer etc the war is between the rich and the poor. period.
the rehashing of history as 50,000 years of men bullying women is moroniclaly disingenuous dangerous and 100% lies. the world grew , humans evolved. as recently as 100 years ago most poor people died of some hideous diseaase at a terribly young age.....or in some obscene bloodbath war fighting fo rkings and queens....the working woman AND MAN didnt have the vote in the UK 110 years ago. selective history and selective memories are very dangerous and it creates a divison and a bitter hatred between the sexes that need not be there. were fighting amongst ourselves when we should be fighting with the bstards who keep the world poor and at perpetual war

[Marsh.]

Just because it's worse in another country doesn't invalidate what does happen in our country.

Children and babies are a hell of a lot worse off in other countries, does that diminish the suffering of many children in our country? No.

It really is pathetic how you treat "issues" like a competition, one must overrule another etc.

[Roy Mars III]

women are very important, without them there would be no cookies/biscuits

[King Gizzard]

I think behind the clear agenda...the truth is trying to say that the world isn't as anti women as it may be made out by some feminist groups. Both sexes are discriminated against and have disadvantages in life. It's abit silly to dismiss discrimination towards women entirely though,just as it would be for men. It's just a case of it applying for both sexes and it's just the world we live in unfortunately.

I think that's what he mean anyway :p

My fam here laying it out

[AnnieK]

clearly women have taken for granted and taken advantageous of the bravery and chivalry of so many men. its funny how we never heard the feminists complain when it was women and children and first to be saved in times of crisis? yet thousands of british men have given up their lives for their women and children down the years. just a small matter of allowing themselves to die to save their beloved. sexist pigs but hey whats death compared to some woman who sleeps around being called a slag eh? the values are plain mental

In the times men women and children first and the first world war though, women were still treated as second class citizens, who had to stay in the kitchen and weren't allowed a vote. The women who were left behind during the war years didn't do the enlisting and I'm sure many would have preferred to go with their men and sons so don't make it out that they were sat at home in the lap of luxury, rubbing their hands waiting for that telegram to arrive. That is completely offensive to the memory of those people who lost their lives, sons, fathers etc....

[King Gizzard]

Trying to act against sexism ends up being patronising most of the time...international women's day etc...if I was a woman I don't think I'd enjoy/agree with that day

[Niamh.]

Trying to act against sexism ends up being patronising most of the time...international women's day etc...if I was a woman I don't think I'd enjoy/agree with that day

All those days are stupid, you don't actually do anything to celebrate them anyway, they're a bit pointless