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King Gizzard
04-04-2014, 03:30 PM
I guess globally it raises awareness of how women are still persecuted around the world which is a good thing, but when it is celebrated here as such doesn't really sit right
the truth
04-04-2014, 03:35 PM
In the times men women and children first and the first world war though, women were still treated as second class citizens, who had to stay in the kitchen and weren't allowed a vote. The women who were left behind during the war years didn't do the enlisting and I'm sure many would have preferred to go with their men and sons so don't make it out that they were sat at home in the lap of luxury, rubbing their hands waiting for that telegram to arrive. That is completely offensive to the memory of those people who lost their lives, sons, fathers etc....
80 million + men died fighting for our freedom show them some respect
Vicky.
04-04-2014, 03:37 PM
I guess globally it raises awareness of how women are still persecuted around the world which is a good thing, but when it is celebrated here as such doesn't really sit right
I dont get the raising awareness thing tbh. People are already aware, and those that arent are not going to look up on stuff just because a day has been named after something.
International womens day, for me, is a pile of crap. Mind I think all 'days' (bar mothers and fathers day..which I think is a nice idea) are bollocks.
Brother Leon
04-04-2014, 03:38 PM
Can't beat the good ol' "Streak and BJ" day...
Never usually have so much Steak.
Vicky.
04-04-2014, 03:39 PM
My FB feed has informed on three separate days (from different people) this year that it is steak and blow job day. I think it might be just guys trying on their luck :laugh:
AnnieK
04-04-2014, 03:42 PM
80 million + men died fighting for our freedom show them some respect
In what way am I showing them disrespect please? I have nothing but respect - I lost my grandfather last week at the age of 96 - he was a serving soldier in Word War 2 and was injured but sent back out to fight. My other grandfather was a POW for 5 years....I have utmost respect for what they went through but I also have respect for my Nan at home, bringing up small children on rations, with the threat of bombings and worrying how the love of her life was getting on, losing brothers and working in an ammunition factory....she deserves some respect too thank you very much
the truth
04-04-2014, 03:53 PM
false outrage again
you implied i disrespected the women at home, which is utter nonsense. it was incredibly difficult of course to raise kids when the father is abroad in a bloodbath war.
as ive said 101 times the war in this world is rich v poor, its NOT and never ever has been men v women. that is lies spouted by frankly immoral disingenuous radical feminists, often just to create a base for themselves. those radical feminists did resport to terrorism too. yet thats of course brushed over. also brushed is the fact a man a nasty man called lloyd george fought tooth and nail to fight for women to get the vote. he did that whilst taking over the "great" war from the psychopathic generals and finally lead us to win the war....the same PM actually introduced the first taxing of the rich, the first national insurance contributions, all of which helped create the welfare state and the NHS , which was also introduced by a nasty man called neu bevan. all of which has proved a Godsend for every single man AND WOMAN. in this country ever since.
did you know in wales they introduced equality opportunity legislation several centuries earlier. but they got smashed by the monarchy and the laws were abolished.
other issues in our "proud history in the past century or 2 include the endlessly rehashed titanic story. a story which visually displayed the war between the rich and the poor. the poor built the magnificent ship. the rich showed off and rode it too fast. bang it crashes and the rich try to escape and drown the poor workers
the actual figures are 61% of the 1st class survived
24% of the third class survived
of the survivors only 20% were male and many of them were children.
those nasty sexist woman hating forefathers of ours patronising those poor women b
by saving their lives and allowing themselves to die instead
chivalry my backside totally patronising. these women would much rather have died themselves with their children?
Ninastar
04-04-2014, 10:30 PM
I think ADHD and dyslexia are both over-diagnosed...
I also think some people can play on mental illnesses and pressure doctors into saying that there is something wrong with them, when there isn't... I might make a thread on this explaining why though....
Gstar
05-04-2014, 01:03 AM
I've kinda mellowed recently, but in secondary school no way :laugh: I was definitely a nightmare, always talkative, never afraid of revealing how I felt and generally just behaving however I wanted without giving a damn about what anyone else thought tbh. Had a lot of friends & teachers who liked me for it but then there were people and even teachers who despised me, got into a fair few fights and exclusions because of it. Calmed down a bit in the last couple of years except for geography where most of the lesson consisted of me arguing with my teacher & 60% of the class. And when I began college I calmed down even more, I'm just your average boring person now. I cringe SO hard at how I used to be
oh my god, I didn't ask for a life story
Marsh.
05-04-2014, 01:06 AM
There is male or female, you are born one and may if you wish have a procedure to become another. Don't piss-about with 1000 different options on forms just to appease people who feel they have to be different.
Jack_
05-04-2014, 01:17 AM
Wow I have one :pipe:
Gender and sexuality are sliding scale spectrums and getting rid of the labels that surround them would solve numerous social issues
Marsh.
05-04-2014, 01:51 AM
Wow I have one :pipe:
Gender and sexuality are sliding scale spectrums and getting rid of the labels that surround them would solve numerous social issues
Yet all that they're doing is adding 1000 more meaningless labels (and letters too) to the pot. :joker:
the truth
05-04-2014, 04:28 AM
the monarchy represent nothing but 1000 years of rape and pillage
the fact we actually choose to keep them and glorify them in song, the fact our national anthem isnt about us the people and this beautiful land but about some old bag sititng on a throne we all pay for sickens the heck out of me........the fact they own land altogether about a fifth the size of wales and yet we seem to not care? you do realise technically we belong to the crown? we think were classless and free, were still fcking peasants as far as i can see
the monarchy represent nothing but 1000 years of rape and pillage
the fact we actually choose to keep them and glorify them in song, the fact our national anthem isnt about us the people and this beautiful land but about some old bag sititng on a throne we all pay for sickens the heck out of me........the fact they own land altogether about a fifth the size of wales and yet we seem to not care? you do realise technically we belong to the crown? we think were classless and free, were still fcking peasants as far as i can see
..hmmm, I think I probably agree with you, that we don't really need the monarchy..I used to think that they were good for tourism..?..but I don't think it would suffer that much/if at all, if we didn't have them...
I think ADHD and dyslexia are both over-diagnosed...
I also think some people can play on mental illnesses and pressure doctors into saying that there is something wrong with them, when there isn't... I might make a thread on this explaining why though....
..it's not that easy to get a diagnosis though Caitlin..(not for children..)..especially with dyslexia..?..I think that ADHD, is a bit more 'controversial' though..what I find annoying is that some parents often don't renew their child's prescription straight away when it's due, so they come in and say..'oh, they might be a bit 'difficult' atm because I haven't got round to getting their medication yet/I'll do it at the weekend/next week..' etc...Ritalin and similar medications are 'mind stimulating/altering' drugs, they're fairly heavy duty stuff..so if you feel as though your child can go days without having them, then do they really need them at all/they kind of either do or they don't..don't put that stuff into your child if they don't need it...
..anyway, I guess that's a controversial opinion, but a thread would be interesting, if you decide to make it...
..oh also/controversial opinion maybe...I'm also starting to think that we have a really less than adequate mental health care system/I'm not saying it's the fault of the mental health care workers themselves, but probably more cutbacks/workloads etc....
Crimson Dynamo
05-04-2014, 07:23 AM
I was just watching bbc news this morning and thinking how wierd it would be if the male presenters showed most of their bare arms and the top part of their chest.
why do women on tv like to show as much skin as possible?
the real reason?
Jesus.
05-04-2014, 07:27 AM
Can't beat the good ol' "Streak and BJ" day...
Never usually have so much Steak.
But you do give a hell of a blowjob.
AnnieK
05-04-2014, 07:28 AM
But you do give a hell of a blowjob.
And you would know....how?
Jesus.
05-04-2014, 08:09 AM
And you would know....how?
Same way I know that yours aren't much to write home about.
AnnieK
05-04-2014, 08:14 AM
Same way I know that yours aren't much to write home about.
I would write some clever retort....but I've learned my lesson in the past on that one :hmph:
Titanic* is ********* boring and that Celine Dion song makes me want to slit my wrists.
*the film, not the tragedy.
Jords
05-04-2014, 08:25 AM
There is male or female, you are born one and may if you wish have a procedure to become another. Don't piss-about with 1000 different options on forms just to appease people who feel they have to be different.
Wow I have one :pipe:
Gender and sexuality are sliding scale spectrums and getting rid of the labels that surround them would solve numerous social issues
Im with Marsh here.
Gender = 2 categories: male or female.
This is not dependent on if you have a cock or vagina since people can be transgendered.
Im not fully a believer in that idea however I am open to it.
I would say in terms of having 'masculine' or 'feminine' traits then yes there is a sliding scale spectrum.
Nobody has 100% masculine or 100% feminine traits only.
Its more like...
| Very Masculine
|
| Mostly Masculine
|
| Somewhat more Masculine
|
| Slightly more Masculine
|
| Masculine & Feminine
|
| Slightly more Feminine
|
| Somewhat more Feminine
|
| Mostly Feminine
|
| Very Feminine
..hmmm, I think I probably agree with you, that we don't really need the monarchy..I used to think that they were good for tourism..?..but I don't think it would suffer that much/if at all, if we didn't have them...
I think it definitely would, if anything I think the amount of tourism that is brought in because of the royal family gets understated. Pretty much all of our main historical landmarks are royal sites and major royal events still attract a huge amount of interest and tourism. The royal wedding gave a big boost to the economy and attracted so many visitors and so much attention, it's often the countries who got rid of their monarchs like Germany, France, Russia etc. who are the most fascinated by ours
The monarchy might be mainly ceremonial these days but it's still so strongly connected with our country's identity and history that you can't really separate it from them, I don't think we will ever abolish it because public support remains strong but it would be a sad day if we did
I think it definitely would, if anything I think the amount of tourism that is brought in because of the royal family gets understated. Pretty much all of our main historical landmarks are royal sites and major royal events still attract a huge amount of interest and tourism. The royal wedding gave a big boost to the economy and attracted so many visitors and so much attention, it's often the countries who got rid of their monarchs like Germany, France, Russia etc. who are the most fascinated by ours
The monarchy might be mainly ceremonial these days but it's still so strongly connected with our country's identity and history that you can't really separate it from them, I don't think we will ever abolish it because public support remains strong but it would be a sad day if we did
..yeah, that used to be my thought process as well/that they were beneficial because of tourism but I'm not so sure anymore because I think the history of the monarchy is preserved anyway and tourists would still come to see that...I'm not sure that the current monarchy itself is really necessary, their homes etc are all partially open to the public and that's probably what they come to see/it would just be 'where the monarchy used to live/how they lived' rather than, they live here/spend time here...
...the weddings etc do attract much interest from all over the world and therefore visitors..but when they're often made into public holidays, they also lose a lot of revenue....
..I'm not 'anti-monarchy' as such, I'm just not convinced that we need them so much anymore...thay often seem more 'celebrity-ish..'....
..yeah, that used to be my thought process as well/that they were beneficial because of tourism but I'm not so sure anymore because I think the history of the monarchy is preserved anyway and tourists would still come to see that...I'm not sure that the current monarchy itself is really necessary, their homes etc are all partially open to the public and that's probably what they come to see/it would just be 'where the monarchy used to live/how they lived' rather than, they live here/spend time here...
...the weddings etc do attract much interest from all over the world and therefore visitors..but when they're often made into public holidays, they also lose a lot of revenue....
..I'm not 'anti-monarchy' as such, I'm just not convinced that we need them so much anymore...thay often seem more 'celebrity-ish..'....
The fact that we still have our monarchy though means that the landmarks aren't just relics of a bygone era like they would be in other countries, but they represent a lot more strongly the identity and the history of our country. It means they hold a great deal more relevance imo, and that they stand as a testament to the continuity of monarchy and its continued role in the UK and the world as a whole. Without the monarch you also lose all the ongoing traditions that still surround them, like the changing of the guard still gets watched by hundreds of people every time even though it happens so frequently.
And even with the losses taken into account I believe the royal wedding still boosted London's economy by £100m, I expect the jubilee was of similar benefit as well and there will have been a lot more jobs created to accommodate the tourism increase.
The fact that we still have our monarchy though means that the landmarks aren't just relics of a bygone era like they would be in other countries, but they represent a lot more strongly the identity and the history of our country. It means they hold a great deal more relevance imo, and that they stand as a testament to the continuity of monarchy and its continued role in the UK and the world as a whole. Without the monarch you also lose all the ongoing traditions that still surround them, like the changing of the guard still gets watched by hundreds of people every time even though it happens so frequently.
And even with the losses taken into account I believe the royal wedding still boosted London's economy by £100m, I expect the jubilee was of similar benefit as well and there will have been a lot more jobs created to accommodate the tourism increase.
..hmmm, I'm still not sure that we need a monarchy in place to preserve the monarchy though...and I think the whole British monarchy through time has pretty good references anyway to still attract the same sort of tourism...I don't think any 'interest ' will wane...but obviously nothing is certain about that...but people don't go to Stratford and expect to see Shakespeare writing as they don't for any 'historic site' which have been and are very well preserved...I don't think that there will be much 'Royal' that would disappear enough for people to stop coming and there are many, many other things to offer anyway..but of course the Royal houses would be something they would also want to see and they still could..anyway, I probably should have gone shopping hours ago to spend some of those coins with the lovely Royal head on them and I don't really have strong feelings either way anyway, it's more that the truth's post got me to think whether we do still need them so much and how much change there would actually be if they didn't exist in the same way they do atm....
Michael Jackson is overrated
That's so raven > Breaking Bad
Vicky.
05-04-2014, 10:55 AM
I think ADHD and dyslexia are both over-diagnosed...
I also think some people can play on mental illnesses and pressure doctors into saying that there is something wrong with them, when there isn't... I might make a thread on this explaining why though....
ADHD used to be just known as badly behaved kids. I know some kids actually do have it, but I also think a large number are diagnosed with it when they dont actually have it and are just little *****
Ramsay
05-04-2014, 11:38 AM
Michael Jackson is overrated
:amazed:
I don't like burger king
D:
That's so raven > Breaking Bad
D: D: D: D:
Me. I Am Salman
05-04-2014, 11:39 AM
Michael Jackson >>>>
Brother Leon
05-04-2014, 11:55 AM
Michael Jackson >>>>
Confirmed.
Natalie.
05-04-2014, 12:07 PM
That's so raven > Breaking Bad
D:
lily.
05-04-2014, 12:09 PM
I think ADHD and dyslexia are both over-diagnosed...
I also think some people can play on mental illnesses and pressure doctors into saying that there is something wrong with them, when there isn't... I might make a thread on this explaining why though....
Again.. we agree.
This is becoming a habit, Caitlin.
..hmmm, I'm still not sure that we need a monarchy in place to preserve the monarchy though...and I think the whole British monarchy through time has pretty good references anyway to still attract the same sort of tourism...I don't think any 'interest ' will wane...but obviously nothing is certain about that...but people don't go to Stratford and expect to see Shakespeare writing as they don't for any 'historic site' which have been and are very well preserved...I don't think that there will be much 'Royal' that would disappear enough for people to stop coming and there are many, many other things to offer anyway..but of course the Royal houses would be something they would also want to see and they still could..anyway, I probably should have gone shopping hours ago to spend some of those coins with the lovely Royal head on them and I don't really have strong feelings either way anyway, it's more that the truth's post got me to think whether we do still need them so much and how much change there would actually be if they didn't exist in the same way they do atm....
I don't think it would though, places like Versailles or the Winter Palace may still attract interest and serve as sort of museums but there's not the same intrigue about them created by the fact there is still a reigning monarch at Buckingham palace. Also with Shakespeare well he is an individual of interest but his legacy remains in print, the legacy of the monarchy exists much more in outward physical symbols I think and this whole idea of lineage and dynasty. I also think with the UK the monarchy is our main selling point really, most of the main attractions are royal related and its hard to see them retaining the same intrigue if we decided we don't really want our royal family anymore. Think that we often forget how much interest other countries take in our monarchy, a lot of them may think its stupid but royal occasions also make massive news in a lot of places and turn the eyes of the world on Britain.
This is all speculation of course but I genuinely think we would lose a hell of a lot from getting rid of our monarchy
the truth
05-04-2014, 01:19 PM
The monarchy represent nothing but pure evil, from
mass murders, to world wars, to land clearances, potatoe
famines, rape and pillage, evile empires....torture chambers....endless theft, total destruction of our constitution. the monarchy itself owns 2 million acres of our land, they even billions of pounds worth of da vinci paintings which the world never gets to see? and his many inventions, sketches etc this is just the tip of the iceberg
they are at the heart of corrupting totally our so called democracy. ultimately certain people in the UK are unaccountable, because the crown is unaccountable becuase they are the law. so anyone working for them ultimately is above the law.
to think we sing our national anthem for them instead of each our and forefathers and mothers, our friends and family and our wonderful land sickeens me to the core of my being. oh lets keep the mass murderers to open museums and have the odd tacky wedding which we pay for? even all the figures regarding their expenses and security costs are all lies. it costs us millions every time they go or do anything.
theyre an appalling example to everyone. even now when they still own the land of the bbc and control much of the media agenda....they still hunt and kill endless animals, yet preach to us on the other hand about saving animals and sit on these charities. only yesterday princess anne was banging on about gassing badgetrs in case of any tb...how humane anne>? theyre a disgusting bunch of freeloading parasites
Ramsay
05-04-2014, 02:52 PM
Big Bang Theory is one of the worse sitcoms ever created and Sheldon is one of the most annoying unlikeable characters ever also
I never get tired of saying it
Black Dagger
05-04-2014, 02:53 PM
That's so raven > Breaking Bad
lmfao.
Gstar
05-04-2014, 02:54 PM
watched midsomer murders for the first time and it's an absolute hot mess
Ninastar
05-04-2014, 02:54 PM
ADHD used to be just known as badly behaved kids. I know some kids actually do have it, but I also think a large number are diagnosed with it when they dont actually have it and are just little *****
thank you for saying it, but this...
and L, we should just get married tbh
arista
05-04-2014, 02:56 PM
watched midsomer murders for the first time and it's an absolute hot mess
Its Sold Worldwide
in high demand
Shaun
05-04-2014, 03:12 PM
i don't like ellen degeneres
she bores me
Ramsay
05-04-2014, 03:16 PM
i don't like ellen degeneres
she bores me
but shaun...the table dance
1QL4O5JofWc
Jake.
05-04-2014, 03:17 PM
Big Bang Theory is one of the worse sitcoms ever created and Sheldon is one of the most annoying unlikeable characters ever also
I never get tired of saying it
yasssss, HIMYM is also awful
keith lemon is an overrated, unfunny sh*t
..my ‘controversial’ opinion...I don’t think that I’ve ever known a child be diagnosed with a ‘disorder’ when they didn’t genuinely have one..often it takes a long time for a diagnosis and different things can be tested for because one disorder can be ‘suspected’ but it could turn out to be something else and this is discovered over time and with lots of organisations involved/care around the child and through many tests...there are many children who are just ‘naughty’ but that’s completely different and naughty’ children are still capable of learning, which is not always so for children with a behaviour disorder because their disorder prevents them from doing this...they forget stuff/have huge difficulties in concentration/are restless etc and basicially quite unhappy and confused children and with that, it manifests in anger/irritation because they just don’t have the same understanding as a child without a behavioural disorder would...school is a nightmare for them/social situations are a nightmare...just often any interaction with people/other children...but anywhere with ‘structure’ is particularly hard....although personally I’m quite dubious about medication being the ‘first treatment’, rather than trying different therapies...( that is getting less common now though..)...because they are such ‘mind sedating’ drugs, which can also hinder learning..I do feel quite strongly that so long as children are dismissed as ‘naughty’ without looking into what the reason for that behaviour is, then it’s basically denying them an education because they won’t get the help that they need for their understanding of things and also how to learn to be able to ‘control’ their disorder themselves over time...and it then continues on and on and into adult life with them always feeling like ‘outsiders’ and can develop into other 'disabilities' which can completely restrict their lives in many ways...also I should have said that most of the time, the whole family of the child feels isolated because the child can’t easily form friendships and parents are understandably ‘put off’ from inviting those children into their homes and ‘encouraging’ their children in an understanding of ‘the world of a child with a behaviour disorder’..anyway, it’s something that I feel extremely passionate about so it’s probably best if I just bow out of the thread/topic...
Gstar
05-04-2014, 06:30 PM
Its Sold Worldwide
in high demand
its still ****
Brother Leon
05-04-2014, 06:35 PM
i don't like ellen degeneres
she bores me
I like her show, but not really her if that makes sense :laugh:
Brother Leon
05-04-2014, 08:39 PM
I'll do some...
I don't really care much about Animals. When my GF shows me all these "cute" animal stories or videos I often feign an "aww" tbh :laugh:. I obviously feel bad about Animal cruelty and that stuff does usually make me feel sad, but when people say an Animal's life means as much as a Human one..I can't help but disagree personally usually .
I'm not as anti guns as alot of people. I have a great interest in Guns. From how they are made to how they operate etc. It doesn't make me some sort of monster and hell I probably wouldn't even be able to fire most. I think people who use guns for travesties are unstable people and generally a threat to the public, with or without a gun. More should be done to battle/aid people in this mindstate than to simply just brand guns the problem. Same applies for those that blame violent video games/movies.
I hate tea and coffee and I can't seem to go a day without being offered some. I know it's a kind gesture, but I get bored saying I hate it and getting a "wtf" reaction.
I also think Beer tastes meh. I was more of a Hard Liquor party animal.
I think the hate for Chris Brown has become old and some of the abuse he gets from people abusing a "disgusting human being" is pure irony. It's irritatign how someone goes "Oh, how can you like him,Leon?" and **** like that. Same people getting at him are the same people that probably had no clue just how bad a person John Lennon was(Much worse) and would gladly talk about how great he is.
Oh and Game of Thrones is the most over rated TV show in history bar none.
--
Smithy
06-04-2014, 12:09 AM
If you use the word vile you can go and sit in a blender you uneducated piece of ****
lostalex
06-04-2014, 12:12 AM
I like her show, but not really her if that makes sense :laugh:
I'm the exact opposite. I like her, but I think her show is annoying, superficial, and vacuous.
Shaun
06-04-2014, 12:37 AM
I liked her at the Oscars (even though I'm sure every joke was fretted over for about a fortnight, but then every comedians' is) but yeah the show is like your aunt showing you some memes you already saw 3 years ago. And some dancing kids in tutus and copying Oprah's audience prizes.
King Gizzard
06-04-2014, 12:39 AM
She's just generally a bit overrated isn't she
Vicky.
06-04-2014, 12:43 AM
People who are not religious should not be able to get married in a church, no matter how much money the church makes from this or how much the couple want a 'pretty' wedding.
Me. I Am Salman
06-04-2014, 12:43 AM
If you use the word vile you can go and sit in a blender you uneducated piece of ****
:nono:
lostalex
06-04-2014, 12:45 AM
People who are not religious should not be able to get married in a church, no matter how much money the church makes from this or how much the couple want a 'pretty' wedding.
who's to say who is or is not religious though? it's like terrorists claiming to do what they do in the name of islam, while other people say they aren't really muslims. Some Muslims say if a woman doesn't wear a head covering she's not really a muslim.
Who should get to decide if you are part of a certain religion? all religions have a huge spectrum of people, all with very different opinions and beliefs.
Smithy
06-04-2014, 12:49 AM
:nono:
wicked, base, evil, mean, bad, low, shocking, appalling, ugly, corrupt, miserable, vicious, humiliating, perverted, coarse, degrading, worthless, disgraceful, vulgar, degenerate, abject, sinful, despicable, depraved, debased, loathsome, contemptible, impure, wretched, nefarious, ignoble
knock yourself out :elephant:
Ian Huntley's sentence should be extended since he admitted that he lied in court about what happened to Jessica Chapman after he'd killed Holly Wells; he claimed he accidentally smothered her to death in his bathroom after Holly Wells had accidentally drowned in the bath tub - he's since admitted that Jessica died in his living room after she tried to call for help after realising that Holly had been murdered.
I think if a murderer admits to what actually happened even after they've been sentenced the case should still be reviewed and a sentence should be doled out accordingly - but then that would just mean no murderers would ever admit to what happened even if they were found guilty... just seems a bit rubbish that it's case closed once they've been sentenced in that sense.
the truth
07-04-2014, 12:37 PM
more abortionist doctors who break the rules or pressurise families to have abortions should be prosecuted. so too should be women who break the 24 week rule. the 24 week law is an absolute disgrace of course and sees millions of healthy babies murdered
I'll do some...
I don't really care much about Animals. When my GF shows me all these "cute" animal stories or videos I often feign an "aww" tbh :laugh:. I obviously feel bad about Animal cruelty and that stuff does usually make me feel sad, but when people say an Animal's life means as much as a Human one..I can't help but disagree personally usually .
I agree with this. I detest animal cruelty, but I just prefer humans to animals.
A (hot) charity worker stopped me in town last week and asked if he could ask me a few questions.. His first question was "do you like animals?". I replied "not really" and he looked really shocked and confused :laugh: Needless to say he did not continue with his sales pitch :)
Kazanne
07-04-2014, 12:51 PM
Have to say,I prefer animals to some people,some people are scum.
Have to say,I prefer animals to some people,some people are scum.
Yes, this I will also agree with. :)
the truth
07-04-2014, 01:23 PM
animals are far more straight forward behave in a far more natural and frankly honest way....humans were incomplete and defective at the factory
the truth
08-04-2014, 01:11 PM
who's to say who is or is not religious though? it's like terrorists claiming to do what they do in the name of islam, while other people say they aren't really muslims. Some Muslims say if a woman doesn't wear a head covering she's not really a muslim.
Who should get to decide if you are part of a certain religion? all religions have a huge spectrum of people, all with very different opinions and beliefs.
even Catholics have to spend months attending the Church and the ministers have to be happy they are fully fledged catholics before they allow them to marry in their Churches
the truth
08-04-2014, 01:11 PM
I don't trust Jews!
you don't trust the people or Judaism? or what?
I don't trust Jews!
Ummm :umm2:
Crimson Dynamo
08-04-2014, 01:21 PM
I don't trust Jews!
Did you mean Jaws?
Livia
08-04-2014, 01:35 PM
I don't trust Jews!
Is that because they make you feel inferior?
the truth
08-04-2014, 01:40 PM
Is that because they make you feel inferior?
he feels the same about the welsh lol
Marsh.
08-04-2014, 01:45 PM
He feels inferior to sheep shaggers?
the truth
08-04-2014, 01:50 PM
He feels inferior to sheep shaggers?
you shag sheep? so what? I allow you your freedom to beastiality. who are we to go against your natural instincts
Marsh.
08-04-2014, 01:51 PM
you shag sheep? so what? I allow you your freedom to beastiality. who are we to go against your natural instincts
:rolleyes: Please. Just stop.
the truth
08-04-2014, 01:52 PM
:rolleyes: Please. Just stop.
no.
Is that because they make you feel inferior?
no. I gave my mate Eliezer a loan of a tenner two years ago, still aint seen it back!
Livia
09-04-2014, 11:58 AM
no. I gave my mate Eliezer a loan of a tenner two years ago, still aint seen it back!
Ah... well... that's where you went wrong. You don't lend Jews money. We lend you money and charge interest. That's the natural order.
Niamh.
10-04-2014, 02:24 PM
Deleted some posts discussing a banned member
Sloppy work Niamh you missed my other post that is one post above the last one :nono:
Niamh.
10-04-2014, 02:28 PM
I'm trying to work here as well Kyle, for Gods sake! :fist:
Marsh.
10-04-2014, 02:32 PM
Work on what? :suspect:
Niamh.
10-04-2014, 02:32 PM
I'm at work
I'm trying to work here as well Kyle, for Gods sake! :fist:
Internet life is more important than real life! Get your priorities right! :fist:
Marsh.
10-04-2014, 03:17 PM
I'm at work
Get off the internet! Slacker!
Niamh.
10-04-2014, 03:18 PM
Get off the internet! Slacker!
:bawling:
I just want to punch brian cox in the face
lostalex
14-04-2014, 12:04 PM
a good rule is if you wouldn't say it in front of your parents, then you probably should't be saying it on the internet.
i'm an exception though, because my parents don't give a ****.
Kate!
15-04-2014, 05:49 PM
a good rule is if you wouldn't say it in front of your parents, then you probably should't be saying it on the internet.
i'm an exception though, because my parents don't give a ****.
:laugh2:
Lostalex I know we annoy each other sometimes but when I see comments like this ^ and the sweet one you posted about grief being beautiful recently, I totally love you for them....
Gstar
20-04-2014, 09:57 PM
Louis Spence is making homophobia worse
Smithy
20-04-2014, 10:01 PM
I miss Lostalex http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/cry.gif
he was funny
GypsyGoth
20-04-2014, 10:01 PM
Me too, I like him a lot.
I don't miss himhttp://i.imgur.com/UN5W340.png
I miss Lostalex http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/cry.gif
he was funny
Me too, I like him a lot.
..yeah, he's actually a really lovely guy, I thought his ban was for a few weeks and then realised it was 3 months and he'll miss BB..:sad:..I think a lot of things with Alex are a translation thing and just not understanding things so well...
MM&I needs to be un-banned tbh
Gstar
20-04-2014, 10:06 PM
I miss Lostalex http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/cry.gif
he was funny
[2]
Jessica.
20-04-2014, 10:08 PM
Bring back Alex and Scott and Tommy!
Jake.
20-04-2014, 10:08 PM
MM&I needs to be un-banned tbh
What, so he can be the same rude idiot that he was before he left?
..the thing is as well, I was talking to him in PM about other stuff and I don't think he even knew why he was banned ...
What, so he can be the same rude idiot that he was before he left?
ummm what happened
Gstar
20-04-2014, 10:12 PM
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3rr63iOem1rve3vjo8_250.png
Jake.
20-04-2014, 10:14 PM
ummm what happened
Just completely rude to myself along with other people, shame because we went through a stage of getting on.. I don't really see the point in campaigning for people to come back, they've been banned for a reason and nobody should be made to feel uncomfortable by somebody else.. he's the type of person that claims to have been baited and stuff, can't ever take responsibility
Vicky.
20-04-2014, 10:15 PM
Alex does know why he is banned. His original ban was only for a week or two aswell iirc, then he decided to send racist PMs to another member.
Brother Leon
20-04-2014, 10:15 PM
..the thing is as well, I was talking to him in PM about other stuff and I don't think he even knew why he was banned ...
Who, Alex?
Jack_
20-04-2014, 10:16 PM
Well I didn't have Alex down as the racist type, that's disappointing
Who, Alex?
..aha, now I know what you meant with a post...
..do you think he realises when he says things though, do you really think he understands..?..
Marsh.
20-04-2014, 10:19 PM
Racist? Oh dear, I'm surprised he wasn't permanently banned for something like that.
Jake.
20-04-2014, 10:21 PM
..do you think he realises when he says things though, do you really think he understands..?..
He's a grown adult though Ammi, I'm sure that he understands.. and I like Alex so that's not me running him down
Vicky.
20-04-2014, 10:21 PM
Apologies, I posted before thinking.
We still dont discuss members bans with other people :blush2:
But it gets bloody annoying the amount of people who manage to convince others they are banned for nothing :/
Me. I Am Salman
20-04-2014, 10:22 PM
Well I didn't have Alex down as the racist type, that's disappointing
where does it say that
Didn't like Alex anyway he always says America is the best and keeps going on about :rolleyes:
Jordan.
20-04-2014, 10:25 PM
MM&I needs to be un-banned tbh
yes
Ramsay
20-04-2014, 10:26 PM
MURICA
Marsh.
20-04-2014, 10:29 PM
Didn't like Alex anyway he always says America is the best and keeps going on about :rolleyes:
That used to rile me up but in the end I think that was his way and his sense of humour tbh.
Marsh.
20-04-2014, 10:29 PM
Apologies, I posted before thinking.
We still dont discuss members bans with other people :blush2:
But it gets bloody annoying the amount of people who manage to convince others they are banned for nothing :/
Absolutely ridiculous.
I've reported your posts and hope you are dealt with accordingly.
Vicky.
20-04-2014, 10:31 PM
I hope so too. Been a while since I got a spanking from james.
Vicky.
20-04-2014, 10:32 PM
OK I think I should maybe log off :umm2:
Smithy
20-04-2014, 10:32 PM
what did he say?
Jake.
20-04-2014, 10:32 PM
I hope so too. Been a while since I got a spanking from james.
OK I think I should maybe log off :umm2:
:joker:
Marsh.
20-04-2014, 10:37 PM
OK I think I should maybe log off :umm2:
:joker:
Me. I Am Salman
20-04-2014, 10:39 PM
people still aren't answering any questions yet continuing to post
tibb has a habit of doing this and it takes the piss :bored:
..tbf, he didn't try to convince me of anything, we were mainly talking about other more personal stuff until we couldn't PM anymore and hyeah I was trying to talk him out of the thread, I just didn't know about the PM..
Vicky.
20-04-2014, 10:41 PM
I didnt mean only him, pretty much everyone who gets banned at some point has people believing they did nothing wrong and it gets extremely irritating not being able to comment on it..as 9 times out of 10 people would totall understand the reasons :p
People have bee banned by mistake once or twice I will admit, and those tend to get overturned, but its no way as often as people think it is D:
Jake.
20-04-2014, 10:42 PM
people still aren't answering any questions yet continuing to post
tibb has a habit of doing this and it takes the piss :bored:
maybe that's because the only people who know don't want to discuss it/is a mod (Vicky)?
..anyway that's all I'll say on it but I do think sometimes that members should be able to voice things without causing arguments or being abusive because otherwise it just causes confusion and probably builds up misunderstandings that can lead to negative feelings ...
Vicky.
20-04-2014, 10:44 PM
Undeleted my original post (probably the wrong thing to do so someone else may make it disappear later on :laugh: ) as I guess if some people read it and others didnt..then its not 'fair' :/
I didnt mean only him, pretty much everyone who gets banned at some point has people believing they did nothing wrong and it gets extremely irritating not being able to comment on it..as 9 times out of 10 people would totall understand the reasons :p
People have bee banned by mistake once or twice I will admit, and those tend to get overturned, but its no way as often as people think it is D:
..I don't think that people generally do think things are done for no reason, I think it's more for me that members can't ever seem to ask anything or mention anything without being told to hush up and it's often not asked to cause a drama and asked in a respectful way but really telling people to hush up is very poor communication imo...and I never thought I would ever say anything negative about how TiBB is run...
..anyway, that really is my last post on this...
Jack_
20-04-2014, 10:48 PM
Can't you just start adding reasons to the ban list thing? Like you used to do in that thread...it's a nice little feature but I've always thought whenever there's no explanation for someone's ban these problems of people asking/saying they got banned for no reason are going to continue
Vicky.
20-04-2014, 10:50 PM
Can't you just start adding reasons to the ban list thing? Like you used to do in threads...it's a nice little feature but I've always thought whenever there's no explanation for someone's ban these problems of people asking/saying they got banned for no reason are going to continue
This went on even with the ban list, we were just accused of lying/exagerrating then :p
Can't you just start adding reasons to the ban list thing? Like you used to do in that thread...it's a nice little feature but I've always thought whenever there's no explanation for someone's ban these problems of people asking/saying they got banned for no reason are going to continue
This.
I don't understand why it was closed
Headie
20-04-2014, 10:51 PM
Can't you just start adding reasons to the ban list thing? Like you used to do in that thread...it's a nice little feature but I've always thought whenever there's no explanation for someone's ban these problems of people asking/saying they got banned for no reason are going to continue
I agree with this.
Vicky.
20-04-2014, 10:52 PM
I do think though..for long term bans it might be a good idea to have a ban list type thing, that explains the final warning they got, etc etc.
Shorter bans it just doesnt work, as most of the time the reason is 'build up of infractions' and people STILL go 'omgz he was banned for a fortnight for calling someone a dick' when the member actually only got a 1 pointer for it or something
Smithy
20-04-2014, 10:53 PM
I do think though..for long term bans it might be a good idea to have a ban list type thing, that explains the final warning they got, etc etc.
Shorter bans it just doesnt work, as most of the time the reason is 'build up of infractions' and people STILL go 'omgz he was banned for a fortnight for calling someone a dick' when the member actually only got a 1 pointer for it or something
tbh that ban list thingy should just keep a list of all banned members until they are unbanned (unless it's a permaban)
Vicky.
20-04-2014, 10:57 PM
IIRC there was talks about adding a reason part to it..as we have to add a reason to give a ban in the first place...so given that it updates automatically it seems adding the reason wouldnt be too hard. Not sure what happened to that
Marsh.
20-04-2014, 11:01 PM
people still aren't answering any questions yet continuing to post
tibb has a habit of doing this and it takes the piss :bored:
Read the thread, Vicky says he was banned for sending racist PMs and then said maybe she shouldn't have spoken about it and can't elaborate. :bored:
Me. I Am Salman
20-04-2014, 11:06 PM
People have bee banned by mistake once or twice I will admit, and those tend to get overturned, but its no way as often as people think it is D:
I had three bans overturned
and they were all overturned by you :hehe:
Can't you just start adding reasons to the ban list thing? Like you used to do in that thread...it's a nice little feature but I've always thought whenever there's no explanation for someone's ban these problems of people asking/saying they got banned for no reason are going to continue
..I also think that being told not to ever mention anything on the forum or have anything explained, doesn't actually remove any confused or negative feelings, it just means that people are more likely to voice them privately, which actually is never a good idea because it just often makes those feelings grow and become more negative, like a 'low morale' thing..it's always better to be open with anything that you're not sure about or want to ask...
Vicky.
20-04-2014, 11:07 PM
I had three bans overturned
and they were all overturned by you :hehe:
This is because I am the soft one :laugh:
Being serious too..besides one I gave 5 weeks ago..the last infraction I gave was on 28-12-2013. Just had to check because I couldnt actually remember but I knew it was ages ago
..I also think that being told not to ever mention anything on the forum or have anything explained, doesn't actually remove any confused or negative feelings, it just means that people are more likely to voice them privately, which actually is never a good idea because it just often makes those feelings grow and become more negative, like a 'low morale' thing..it's always better to be open with anything that you're not sure about or want to ask...
That's a one way trip to ban city on here. I was more than vocal when I first came here about this places sweep everything under the carpet policy but tbh now I've realised they can't win whatever they do. If they let people have freedom to mention banned people or previous spats it usually ends up in 10 page slagging matches because let's face it anyone can be brave behind a keyboard.
Marsh.
20-04-2014, 11:32 PM
..I also think that being told not to ever mention anything on the forum or have anything explained, doesn't actually remove any confused or negative feelings, it just means that people are more likely to voice them privately, which actually is never a good idea because it just often makes those feelings grow and become more negative, like a 'low morale' thing..it's always better to be open with anything that you're not sure about or want to ask...
:nono:
I've reported your post.
You're trying to rally up some kind of revolt against the mods, I know your game.
I think Jay is bwoty :worry:
James
20-04-2014, 11:37 PM
The trouble with people wanting all these banned members unbanned is that the posts they get banned for get deleted, so people never see what they were banned for in the first place.
Jack_
20-04-2014, 11:43 PM
The trouble with people wanting all these banned members unbanned is that the posts they get banned for get deleted, so people never see what they were banned for in the first place.
Can posts just not be deleted then? And threads closed rather than deleted or cleaned? And just be stricter on people continuing an argument in a thread if they've been told to stop, i.e. rather than deleting the posts with arguing just punishing those who carry on? Just to make things more transparent so people know what really went on
Me. I Am Salman
20-04-2014, 11:44 PM
PLEASE bring Scott back
no one is opposing it :shrug: and come on all he did was make a blog
Kizzy
20-04-2014, 11:45 PM
I knew it.... :idc:
Smithy
20-04-2014, 11:45 PM
The trouble with people wanting all these banned members unbanned is that the posts they get banned for get deleted, so people never see what they were banned for in the first place.
Scott was banned for something that happened offsite though :/
Ninastar
20-04-2014, 11:48 PM
smithy reply to my text you slut
Smithy
20-04-2014, 11:50 PM
my phone is upstairs charging effort
Smithy
20-04-2014, 11:50 PM
did you send if from your new number?
-takes thread off topic-
Ninastar
20-04-2014, 11:51 PM
yah i think so, my new but not new number cause its actually temporary one
Ninastar
20-04-2014, 11:52 PM
my phone is upstairs charging effort
oh right
all i said was that the little knife thrower on BGT looked like you
so dont get your hopes up haha
Smithy
20-04-2014, 11:53 PM
bitch :bored:
Ninastar
20-04-2014, 11:54 PM
hahaha
Kate!
20-04-2014, 11:58 PM
PLEASE bring Scott back
no one is opposing it :shrug: and come on all he did was make a blog
No, that's not all he did. It's very difficult I agree and despite everything I actually miss Scott's funny ways and our wall chats where we exchanged funny animal gifs a plenty, but he more than crossed a line and if we all got let off the hook for everything there'd be anarchy. :(
Ramsay
21-04-2014, 12:01 AM
permabans are silly
Marsh.
21-04-2014, 01:01 AM
Does his blog still exist? I never got a chance to see it. :sad:
..I also think that being told not to ever mention anything on the forum or have anything explained, doesn't actually remove any confused or negative feelings, it just means that people are more likely to voice them privately, which actually is never a good idea because it just often makes those feelings grow and become more negative, like a 'low morale' thing..it's always better to be open with anything that you're not sure about or want to ask...
No matter who gets banned and what the reason is, they always have members that are friends and then more often than not members that don't get on with them so much, so apart from other members bans being nothing at all to do with anyone else it also causes arguments to just let lots of discussion go on about them because all it takes is for one to say I'm glad xxxxxxxx was finally banned and someone else to disagree and it goes from there it's also unfair on the banned member because they are unable to speak up for themselves.
Some members seem to think they have to be involved in everything that's went on and that causes a lot of unnecessary drama too because they start posting comments about things they have no clue about and it never ends well.
Can posts just not be deleted then? And threads closed rather than deleted or cleaned? And just be stricter on people continuing an argument in a thread if they've been told to stop, i.e. rather than deleting the posts with arguing just punishing those who carry on? Just to make things more transparent so people know what really went on
We cant just not delete posts, some of the stuff that gets posted towards members on here can be very offensive and people report posts like that no matter if the thread is closed or not, just because it's been dealt with doesn't make it any less offensive either.
And your comment about being stricter on people just proves we can't win no matter what we do, it takes a lot for us to put members onto a long ban and we don't like doing it, we give out more than enough chances but then when we finally do it we get members moaning anyway.
Another thing is there's certain members on this forum that seem to want drama constantly or be involved in it, they want to know everything that's happened, ask constantly about deleted messages, banned members when they have no need to know at all.
As for Scott's ban, he's not just banned for creating a blog, this has been said before and other members constantly asking for the ban to be lifted won't do him any good, if or when he gets unbanned it will be our decision and not due to other members thinking they need to speak on his behalf.
Kizzy
21-04-2014, 02:22 AM
'Some members seem to think they have to be involved in everything that's went on and that causes a lot of unnecessary drama too because they start posting comments about things they have no clue about and it never ends well.'
Totally this, keeping dragging the same rubbish up at every opportunity... getting really boring.
**** bum poop fanny and cock.
armand.kay
24-04-2014, 03:50 PM
what did scott do? :suspect:
Ramsay
24-04-2014, 03:55 PM
hahhaah
Smithy
24-04-2014, 03:55 PM
what did scott do? :suspect:
Made a burn blog that people submitted bitchy things too
InOne
24-04-2014, 04:04 PM
It's like in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest. The permbans have been taken up to the disturbed ward and electroshocked never to be heard from again, and then there's the short timers, 3 months, a few weeks who get sent there to 'keep them in line'. Of course this never works. I sense a few more heading straight to the disturbed ward never to be heard from again soon. The rest of us are the acutes, biding our time...
Niamh.
24-04-2014, 04:21 PM
Beautiful Joe :')
John Lennon was an arsehole.
Ramsay
24-04-2014, 04:31 PM
John Lennon was an arsehole.
True that
Brother Leon
24-04-2014, 04:33 PM
John Lennon was an arsehole.
Yeah. Mentioned that earlier in the thread too when discussing Chris Brown.
Marsh.
24-04-2014, 04:46 PM
what did scott do? :suspect:
The question is who.
Redway
06-03-2025, 12:59 AM
Avocado oil is a godsend (it tastes like conventional vegetable oil when heated up anyway and that’s part of the point) but I *hate* the taste of avocado as it is. That’s my controversial opinion.
Quantum Boy
07-03-2025, 06:48 AM
**** bum poop fanny and cock.
Good old Parmy, just as controversial 11 years on.
Mystic Mock
07-03-2025, 07:55 AM
Pink is not the worst colour in existence.
Jews are good people.
I got me tenner back.:dance:
Redway
07-03-2025, 03:32 PM
Pink is not the worst colour in existence.
Who said it was in the first place, to be fair?
Mystic Mock
08-03-2025, 04:49 AM
Who said it was in the first place, to be fair?
Loads of macho types will say that pink is the worst colour.
Imo though I think that it's between white or gray.
Mystic Mock
08-03-2025, 04:51 AM
Jews are good people.
I got me tenner back.:dance:
Tbf, Tottenham have been very kind to most of the Premier League this season.:hehe:
I'm getting this in before Lincoln humiliate us at 3PM today.:joker:
Redway
08-03-2025, 05:23 AM
Loads of macho types will say that pink is the worst colour.
Imo though I think that it's between white or gray.
The irony is once-upon-a-time blue was for girls and pink were for boys.
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
08-03-2025, 12:58 PM
James Bond should remain white. Productions should create new roles for black actors and etc
Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2025, 02:04 PM
From around the mid 20th Century pink became associated with girls and blue with boy babies and not much has changed in the last 80-90 years.
Of course the idea was it enables others to address the child/parents correctly as wee babies look like wee babies and not boys or girls.
Good system
Redway
08-03-2025, 06:07 PM
Alcohol is a drug that’s far, far too socially accepted and overly encouraged. I know what LeatherTrumpet/Crimson Dynamo is gonna say for bait’s sake but meh.
Jessica.
08-03-2025, 06:09 PM
Alcohol is a drug that’s far, far too socially accepted and overly encouraged. I know what LeatherTrumpet/Crimson Dynamo is gonna say for bait’s sake but meh.
I agree. Binge drinking is not normal either, people who do it have problems, maybe not a drinking problem but there's a reason behind why they're doing it.
Alcohol is a drug that’s far, far too socially accepted and overly encouraged. I know what LeatherTrumpet/Crimson Dynamo is gonna say for bait’s sake but meh.
Thought you loved a bev though Redway?
Redway
08-03-2025, 06:12 PM
Thought you loved a bev though Redway?
I’m anti-hypocrisy, not anti-alcohol. I do love a good beer, you’re right. I didn’t say otherwise.
Redway
08-03-2025, 06:12 PM
I agree. Binge drinking is not normal either, people who do it have problems, maybe not a drinking problem but there's a reason behind why they're doing it.
Indeed. Drunk Brits abroad are an embarrassment.
There’s just too much promotion and advertising of alcohol in this part of the world. Being a functional alcoholic is a health problem, not something that should be seen as a flex.
Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2025, 06:34 PM
Alcohol is a drug that’s far, far too socially accepted and overly encouraged. I know what LeatherTrumpet/Crimson Dynamo is gonna say for bait’s sake but meh.
Its a great social enhancer unlike dope that turns people into boring mumblers
awful gateway drug
Redway
08-03-2025, 06:40 PM
Its a great social enhancer unlike dope that turns people into boring mumblers
awful gateway drug
You keep saying that until you’re blue in the face.
Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2025, 06:55 PM
You keep saying that until you’re blue in the face.
I'd only be blue in the face if I took illegal marijuana
Redway
08-03-2025, 06:59 PM
I'd only be blue in the face if I took illegal marijuana
It’s not even illegal in half the world at this point. But you do you. To your liver’s eventual discontent.
Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2025, 07:00 PM
It’s not even illegal in half the world at this point. But you do you. To your liver’s eventual discontent.
Really, do you have a link?
Redway
08-03-2025, 07:03 PM
Really, do you have a link?
I don’t want to believe that you’ve been living under a rock between the announcements in Portugal, Holland, Canada and various U.S. states if not Germany, Mexico, Malta and Thailand. You must know about that.
Alcohol is a far more dangerous, destructive drug than cannabis. That’s just a fact.
Its a great social enhancer unlike dope that turns people into boring mumblers
awful gateway drug
Hey stop pointing mirrors at me.:fist:
You're right btw, first hand knowledge here.
Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2025, 08:27 PM
I don’t want to believe that you’ve been living under a rock between the announcements in Portugal, Holland, Canada and various U.S. states if not Germany, Mexico, Malta and Thailand. You must know about that.
Alcohol is a far more dangerous, destructive drug than cannabis. That’s just a fact.
So, no
Ok
Glenn.
08-03-2025, 08:34 PM
So, no
Ok
https://www.mpp.org/special/marijuana-is-safer/#:~:text=Marijuana%20is%20less%20toxic%20than,to%2 0violent%20or%20reckless%20behavior.
Many people die from alcohol use. Nobody dies from marijuana use. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that more than 30,000 annual U.S. deaths are attributed to the health effects of alcohol (i.e. this figure does not include accidental deaths). On the other hand, the CDC does not even have a category for deaths caused by the health effects of marijuana. A study published in Scientific Reports in January 2015 found that the mortality risk associated with marijuana was approximately 114 times less than that of alcohol.
People die from alcohol overdoses. There has never been a fatal marijuana overdose. The official publication of the Scientific Research Society, American Scientist, reported that alcohol is one of the most toxic drugs and using just 10 times what one would use to get the desired effect could lead to death. Marijuana is one of – if not the – least toxic drugs, requiring thousands of times the dose one would use to get the desired effect to lead to death. This “thousands of times” is actually theoretical, since there has never been a case of an individual dying from a marijuana overdose. Meanwhile, the CDC attributes more than 1,600 U.S. deaths per year to alcohol poisoning.
The health-related costs associated with alcohol use far exceed those for marijuana use. Health-related costs for alcohol consumers are eight times greater than those for marijuana consumers, according to an assessment published in the British Columbia Mental Health and Addictions Journal. More specifically, the annual cost of alcohol consumption is $165 per user, compared to just $20 per user for marijuana. This should not come as a surprise given the vast amount of research that shows alcohol poses far more – and more significant – health problems than marijuana.
Alcohol use damages the brain. Marijuana use does not. Despite the myths we’ve heard throughout our lives about marijuana killing brain cells, it turns out that a growing number of studies seem to indicate that marijuana actually has neuroprotective properties. This means that it works to protect brain cells from harm. For example, a 2009 study found that teens who used marijuana as well as alcohol suffered significantly less damage to the white matter in their brains. Of course, what is beyond question is that alcohol damages brain cells.
Alcohol use is linked to cancer. Marijuana use is not. Alcohol use is associated with a wide variety of cancers, including cancers of the esophagus, stomach, colon, lungs, pancreas, liver and prostate. Marijuana use has not been conclusively associated with any form of cancer. In fact, a a 2009 study contradicted the long-time government claim that marijuana use is associated with head and neck cancers. It found that marijuana use actually reduced the likelihood of head and neck cancers. If you are concerned about marijuana being associated with lung cancer, you may be interested in the results of the largest case-controlled study ever conducted to investigate the respiratory effects of marijuana smoking and cigarette smoking. Released in 2006, the study, conducted by Dr. Donald Tashkin at the University of California at Los Angeles, found that marijuana smoking was not associated with an increased risk of developing lung cancer. Surprisingly, the researchers found that people who smoked marijuana actually had lower incidences of cancer compared to non-users of the drug.
Alcohol is more addictive than marijuana. According to a 1998 report by Drs. Jack E. Henningfield of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) and Neal L. Benowitz of the University of California at San Francisco, alcohol’s addiction potential is significantly greater than that of marijuana based on a number of indicators. A comprehensive federal study conducted by the National Academy of Sciences Institute of Medicine arrived at a similar conclusion: "Millions of Americans have tried marijuana, but most are not regular users [and] few marijuana users become dependent on it … [A]lthough [some] marijuana users develop dependence, they appear to be less likely to do so than users of other drugs (including alcohol and nicotine), and marijuana dependence appears to be less severe than dependence on other drugs."
Alcohol use increases the risk of injury to the consumer. Marijuana use does not. Many people who have consumed alcohol or know others who have consumed alcohol would not be surprised to hear that it greatly increases the risk of serious injury. Research published in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical & Experimental Research, found that 36 percent of hospitalized assaults and 21 percent of all injuries are attributable to alcohol use by the injured person. Meanwhile, the American Journal of Emergency Medicine reported that lifetime use of marijuana is rarely associated with emergency room visits. According to the British Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, this is because: “Cannabis differs from alcohol … in one major respect. It does not seem to increase risk-taking behavior. This means that cannabis rarely contributes to violence either to others or to oneself, whereas alcohol use is a major factor in deliberate self-harm, domestic accidents and violence.” Interestingly enough, some research has even shown that marijuana use has been associated with a decreased risk of injury.
Redway
08-03-2025, 08:52 PM
I can’t believe that I’m agreeing with Glenn for once but yeah. He hit the nail on the head.
Redway
08-03-2025, 08:54 PM
So, no
Ok
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-weed-is-illegal
Dude. You’re going to have to bait harder.
Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2025, 09:06 PM
Irrelevant Maps and tldr
Bs isn't evidence
It's 2 bad Google searches
:facepalm:
Redway
08-03-2025, 09:11 PM
Irrelevant Maps and tldr
Bs isn't evidence
It's 2 bad Google searches
:facepalm:
It’s your game at this point. But it’s funny how disingenuous you are.
You asked for a link and you got one. If you don’t like what it proves, that’s your problem. But it’s not a good look if that’s the strength of your argument. That kinda just proves the point.
AnnieK
09-03-2025, 12:02 AM
Stop making personal jabs or thebthreaf will be closed and everyone involved infracted
Imagine reviving a 10+ year old thread only to almost get it closed within 3 days. :laugh:
Redway
09-03-2025, 12:42 AM
Imagine reviving a 10+ year old thread only to almost get it closed within 3 days. :laugh:
I didn’t say a bad word against the old tiger.
Mystic Mock
09-03-2025, 12:49 AM
The irony is once-upon-a-time blue was for girls and pink were for boys.
I always wonder how that changed.
Mystic Mock
09-03-2025, 12:52 AM
James Bond should remain white. Productions should create new roles for black actors and etc
I personally agree with you.
I don't get why TV/Movies can't seem to have the confidence to create a new IP that's similar in style to James Bond,but the lead is black?
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
11-03-2025, 05:43 PM
I personally agree with you.
I don't get why TV/Movies can't seem to have the confidence to create a new IP that's similar in style to James Bond,but the lead is black?
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