In his defence [Convo with Luisa about gays]

[Seanbon]

generalizing about billions of Christians is just as bad as generalzing about all gay people

I agree!! I'm replying to a previous quote that "Christianity and ignorance" go hand in hand,or words to that effect?!?

[the truth]

You've just said I'm almost back from my paper round and I'm afraid kids these days have them at around 13/14, I'm almost 19, so...five years is quite a difference.

But whatever, just continue to bypass all the perfectly valid points I pose to you and instead choose to insult me because of my age (as if that could ever determine who is right or wrong in a certain debate anyway lol), it's really petty. And actually if I were to do the same thing to you you would be up in arms about it, so...

get a sense of humour,,,,or report it to the PC discrimination against paper boys board

[Redway]

Yes he was warned Ive read what youve said and youre wrong. I dont care how many times you repeat it
no discussion to be had.

Guess you could say he was warned about being warned... he may have been sent to the diary room but he still didn't get one. Not officially anyway.

[sampvt]

clued up or brainwashed by the latest PC fads? my guess is the latter

OMG I love you but if I said that I would get banned, lol.

[the truth]

I agree!! I'm replying to a previous quote that "Christianity and ignorance" go hand in hand,or words to that effect?!?

yeah the Christian bashing always generalizes and insults and stereotypes millions yet these same hypocrites demand they are never should beinsulted or stereotyped? also some of the radical liberals demand gay marriage yet want to tear down the church and slag off and abuse all Christians? so why make such a fuss to marry in a church then?

[Northern Monkey]

I respect all of your rights to hold your opinions,Even if i don't agree with them all.People are always gonna find something offensive,They did'nt warn Jasmine for simulating sex in the bedroom or talking about finger banging,The house was left to discuss it,It should have been the same in this situation aswell.Just because we don't agree with it does'nt mean the right to say it should be surppressed.

[the truth]

Guess you could say he was warned about being warned... he may have been sent to the diary room but he still didn't get one. Not officially anyway.

he was called to the diary room to be warned

[sampvt]

get a sense of humour,,,,or report it to the PC discrimination against paper boys board

I had 2 paper rounds till I left high school. I think that means my maths is better and a couple of years hardly makes a lifetime. All I can say is thank god for google as it seems to be more read than text books in school.

[Jack_]

watched it but they didn't air the whole interview or telling off so they could have missed the warning off and did it to save his face. who knows, none of us do so we must agree that in the face of no evidence, its a stalemate.

If they had given him a formal warning, they would have aired it...as they always do with every other one. There'd be no reason for them to cut off before they give him the formal warning, that doesn't even make any sense.

Yes he was warned Ive read what youve said and youre wrong. I dont care how many times you repeat it
no discussion to be had.

NO HE WASN'T WARNED :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: please someone tell me I'm not the only one getting pissed off with this now?

Have you ever even watched Big Brother before? In the past year we have had countless formal warnings handed out that it really shouldn't be hard for any Big Brother fan to recall the terminology that the producers recite when handing one out to a housemate, and when they merely just remind them of the rules that they were given before they entered. I mean seriously?

If it's a formal warning, they say 'and therefore Big Brother is left with no choice but to issue you with a formal warning, any more action like this may lead to your removal from the Big Brother house'. They didn't say this to Evander, the transcript says as much and so does the clip. Watch it back. In fact, watch Jemima's racist warning back, watch Hazel's Daley-gate warning back, watch Gina's warning back, watch Dexter's warning back. It's the same sentence. Every. Single. Time.

This was a reminder of the rules, NOT a formal warning. You are just wrong and you seriously need to remind yourself of what is deemed a formal warning on this show.

[the truth]

OMG I love you but if I said that I would get banned, lol.

does that mean you were born loving me or you chose to love me? ok thats me banned for even asking lol

[sampvt]

If they had given him a formal warning, they would have aired it...as they always do with every other one. There'd be no reason for them to cut off before they give him the formal warning, that doesn't even make any sense.



NO HE WASN'T WARNED :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: please someone tell me I'm not the only one getting pissed off with this now?

Have you ever even watched Big Brother before? In the past year we have had countless formal warnings handed out that it really shouldn't be hard for any Big Brother fan to recall the terminology that the producers recite when handing one out to a housemate, and when they merely just remind them of the rules that they were given before they entered. I mean seriously?

If it's a formal warning, they say 'and therefore Big Brother is left with no choice but to issue you with a formal warning, any more action like this may lead to your removal from the Big Brother house'. They didn't say this to Evander, the transcript says as much and so does the clip. Watch it back. In fact, watch Jemima's racist warning back, watch Hazel's Daley-gate warning back, watch Gina's warning back, watch Dexter's warning back. It's the same sentence. Every. Single. Time.

This was a reminder of the rules, NOT a formal warning. You are just wrong and you seriously need to remind yourself of what is deemed a formal warning on this show.

Give it a rest Jack. we didn't see Jay getting warned and conors warning wasn't aired either. admit defeat and go to bed.

[the truth]

NO HE WASN'T WARNED :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: please someone tell me I'm not the only one getting pissed off with this now?

Have you ever even watched Big Brother before? In the past year we have had countless formal warnings handed out that it really shouldn't be hard for any Big Brother fan to recall the terminology that the producers recite when handing one out to a housemate, and when they merely just remind them of the rules that they were given before they entered. I mean seriously?

If it's a formal warning, they say 'and therefore Big Brother is left with no choice but to issue you with a formal warning, any more action like this may lead to your removal from the Big Brother house'. They didn't say this to Evander, the transcript says as much and so does the clip. Watch it back. In fact, watch Jemima's racist warning back, watch Hazel's Daley-gate warning back, watch Gina's warning back, watch Dexter's warning back. It's the same sentence. Every. Single. Time.

This was a reminder of the rules, NOT a formal warning. You are just wrong and you seriously need to remind yourself of what is deemed a formal warning on this show.

temper temper timothy..you can shout and swear as much as you like it changes nothing , just makes you look foolish
he was called to the diary to be warned.

[Northern Monkey]

Wether it was formal or not,He was warned for expressing his beliefs.

[Seanbon]

Yeah, i probably should have said 'religion' instead of narrowing it down to just the Christians!
I think Buddhism is the exception but many, myself included, wouldn't class Buddhism as a religion as much as a set of beliefs to live your life by.

Religions as a whole are responsible for so much that's wrong in the World today. I would imagine Evander's opinions probably stem from a religious background which is a very sad thing.

100% agree. The fundamentalist religious upbringings that some people experience often leave no room for personal opinion,no matter how widely they travel!

[Redway]

he was called to the diary room to be warned

He wasn't, though. Don't you think they'd have said and made it all formal if so? He was discouraged against airing that sort of opinion on TV, and that's all there is to it. 100% with Jack_ on this.

[sampvt]

does that mean you were born loving me or you chose to love me? ok thats me banned for even asking lol

If you have to sit to pea and your nipples are higher than your elbow, we will say its just a newish infactuation. Will that do as you were probably not around even after I spawned 3 kids and went through my first job.

[Haylei]

Personally I think that Evander was completely in the wrong. He is entitled to his opinion, yes, and Luisa also did bring up the subject, but she tried to stop him many times, even before he actually said anything, when she realized that he might say something offensive. He was warned by her, but still proceeded to say it despite that because he wanted to express his opinion. So to me this whole "well, Luisa brought up the subject so he has a right to respond" isn't valid because she quickly tried to bury the conversation and even warned him that it was on TV. But he didn't care, so he deserves all this hate he's getting.

Also on a side note, I am an American and I had no clue that the word "handicapped" was offensive to disabled people and he most likely didn't either.

[Kizzy]

I hope he didn't get a formal warning, it was like the thought police! :/

[Mystic Mock]

He wasn't, though. Don't you think they'd have said and made it all formal if so? He was discouraged against airing that sort of opinion on TV, and that's all there is to it. 100% with Jack_ on this.

But they shouldn't be aiding contestants on how to be seen on TV, if Evander wants to make a fool of himself then Big Brother should leave him to it imo.

[Jack_]

Give it a rest Jack. we didn't see Jay getting warned and conors warning wasn't aired either. admit defeat and go to bed.

Wrong.

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And none of Jay's sh*tting actions were ever broadcast, so of course they wouldn't be airing any warnings (if he got one).

temper temper timothy..you can shout and swear as much as you like it changes nothing , just makes you look foolish
he was called to the diary to be warned.

No, what makes you look foolish is having something factual pointed out to you and you refusing to actually read it and understand it, instead bending the truth in order to fit your anger that he was given a formal warning for this discussion, when he wasn't.

And now just for complete proof, here's Jemima and Hazel's actual formal warnings, all of which have Big Brother reciting the same line, watch:

Jemima (from 1:40 onwards):

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Hazel (from 8:15 - 8:30):

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They recite the same line. 'Big Brother is issuing you with a formal warning, if you repeat this behaviour Big Brother may have no choice but to remove you from the house'.

This was also the same for Gina and Dexter who received formal warnings, as well as Ron Atkinson and Carol McGiffin in the last CBB. They were all formal warnings. This one was not, just accept it.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I hope he didn't get a formal warning, it was like the thought police! :/

21 pages in and people still saying that stating homosexuality is a choice and a disability (which is by the way contradictory) is just ~an opinion~

[Jordan.]

Personally I think that Evander was completely in the wrong. He is entitled to his opinion, yes, and Luisa also did bring up the subject, but she tried to stop him many times, even before he actually said anything, when she realized that he might say something offensive. He was warned by her, but still proceeded to say it despite that because he wanted to express his opinion. So to me this whole "well, Luisa brought up the subject so he has a right to respond" isn't valid because she quickly tried to bury the conversation and even warned him that it was on TV. But he didn't care, so he deserves all this hate he's getting.

Also on a side note, I am an American and I had no clue that the word "handicapped" was offensive to disabled people and he most likely didn't either.

we need more new members like you http://a.mod-site.net/s/appl.gif

[Mystic Mock]

21 pages in and people still saying that stating homosexuality is a choice and a disability (which is by the way contradictory) is just ~an opinion~

It is an opinion though, a sick opinion but an opinion none of the less.

As I've said once Evander Holyfield is up for the vote just vote for the opposition if you're offended by him so much, even if it's against Jim "Domestic Violence On Women" Davidson.

[the truth]

just to get some perspective on holyfield, hes given millions to charity , set up hiw own charity foundation, fought on with a heart condition and suspected damage....he also forgave mike tyson for biting his ear off and said if they can make peace its an example to their kids and other kids , they can all make peace....

terrible man

[the truth]

21 pages in and people still saying that stating homosexuality is a choice and a disability (which is by the way contradictory) is just ~an opinion~

your sentence doesnt make sense?

[the truth]

Wrong.

pwjinsKQlmw

And none of Jay's sh*tting actions were ever broadcast, so of course they wouldn't be airing any warnings (if he got one).



No, what makes you look foolish is having something factual pointed out to you and you refusing to actually read it and understand it, instead bending the truth in order to fit your anger that he was given a formal warning for this discussion, when he wasn't.

And now just for complete proof, here's Jemima and Hazel's actual formal warnings, all of which have Big Brother reciting the same line, watch:

Jemima (from 1:40 onwards):

JeZVuhCrUV8

Hazel (from 8:15 - 8:30):

wcSnyjESA9c

They recite the same line. 'Big Brother is issuing you with a formal warning, if you repeat this behaviour Big Brother may have no choice but to remove you from the house'.

This was also the same for Gina and Dexter who received formal warnings, as well as Ron Atkinson and Carol McGiffin in the last CBB. They were all formal warnings. This one was not, just accept it.

holyfield was warned ....now go to bed , paper round starts in just a few hours

[Jack_]

holyfield was warned ....now go to bed , paper round starts in just a few hours

Your trolling is now transparent and pathetic, grow up. You've been humiliated and so you're resorting to petty insults because you don't know how else to admit defeat. Sad.

[the truth]

Your trolling is now transparent and pathetic, grow up. You've been humiliated and so you're resorting to petty insults because you don't know how else to admit defeat. Sad.

Holyfield was warned....now set that alarm clock your neghbours wanted the daily mail

[Josy]

Closing this thread since the debate has sadly been ruined by petty insults and baiting.