"If you were my daughter i'd still be bathing you"

[Pincho Paxton]

It was a creepy joke, and a few jokes with Casey have been creepy. "Do I get a blowjob now?" So maybe he is walking on a tightrope, and needs to clean up his act a bit.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I'm not referring to any users in particular, just that I find the outrage amusing... :joker:

I don't see any outrage just people thinking it was a bit awkward. Neither are we PC for thinking so lol its not as if im offended by it I just thought "Didf he just say he would still bath her if she were his DAUGHTER?" lol.

It was the daughter part that was a bit creepy.

[flamingGalah!]

I don't care if you're referring to someone in particular or not, it's still not allowed to insult FMs or fans of HMs

I have not insulted anyone though?? :conf:

[Niamh.]

I have not insulted anyone though?? :conf:

Well you have actually, referring to everyone who didn't think Jims joke was funny as the "PC Brigade"

[Seraphim]

I think he was just curious. I might have asked that question myself. :hugesmile:

I wouldn't, if someone was bi-sexual. I'd have asked if he had anyone special on the outside.

[chuff me dizzy]

I saw her smile and turn away....not laugh.

Me too Kizzy

[flamingGalah!]

I said:


The PC brigade in here are even funnier though :joker:

Well you have actually, referring to everyone who didn't think Jims joke was funny as the "PC Brigade"

I was referring to the very over the top comments, not "everyone" who didn't find it funny... And it still isn't insulting :idc:

[chuff me dizzy]

It was a jokey comment, thats all. Casey didnt look uncomfortable imo, i think she knows Jim's sense of humour by now & doesnt take him seriously.

But how do you KNOW it was a jokey comment? did Jim tell you this ? to me AND OTHERS it looked iffy ,and in my case pervy ,but then I know Jims history

[flamingGalah!]

But how do you KNOW it was a jokey comment? did Jim tell you this ? to me AND OTHERS it looked iffy ,and in my case pervy ,but then I know Jims history

Of course it was a joke! Jesus wept... :facepalm:

[Cherie]

But how do you KNOW it was a jokey comment? did Jim tell you this ? to me AND OTHERS it looked iffy ,and in my case pervy ,but then I know Jims history


Jeez don't we all.

[Seraphim]

Me too,Like i've said i've heard jokes 10 times worse at work/in the pub.It makes me wonder what kind of bubble some people live in to be offended by that joke.

The remark was inappropriate in the context of an older man who is not one of Casey's mates gaining her confidence in the guise of being a father figure, then initiating physical contact and making sexual jokes about it. It's not a problem as an isolated event, but it appears to be a pattern.

[Niamh.]

I said:





I was referring to the very over the top comments, not "everyone" who didn't find it funny... And it still isn't insulting :idc:

Stick to discussing the HMs. Thanks.

[anne666]

he is ticking off all the boxes!

Wasn't he? Bad timing or good? Lewd inappropriate comments to a woman young enough to be his daughter accompanied by a BB Jim to win campaign. Casey, of course, wasn't worried according to the mind readers. Sexism and homophobia, tick, tick. Now we all know he's neither! Oh Yeah LOL. Of course his Sexism was Linda's fault as he pointed out. How domineering was his conversation with Luisa? Loathsome manipulative man. I predict a lot more Casey hugging!

[anne666]

But how do you KNOW it was a jokey comment? did Jim tell you this ? to me AND OTHERS it looked iffy ,and in my case pervy ,but then I know Jims history

Oh haven't you heard, he's changed?:cheer:

[Seraphim]

I don't think any of the others have really looked out for Casey though; a couple of them (Sam and Ollie) listened to her when she was crying her eyes out after Jasmine had been evicted and Lee was being foul to her but none of them seemed to give her any proper advice or take her seriously. At least the atmosphere is much better in the house now, a nice calming end to an explosive series.

Maybe you're right, although I seem to remember some of the others telling her not to go back to Lee after Jasmine was evicted. I'd have to watch the episode again to be sure, though.

I think you're right that people lost respect for her after that - same as everyone watching, really. I noticed one night Sam, Casey and Luisa were chatting about publicity shots, and after Luisa spoke, Casey tried to speak several times, and Sam cut in and spoke over the top of her. When I have thought about who I prefer over others for the final, I didn't even consider Casey - I was only thinking about the other five. :/ I forgot all about Casey, and yet I really like her, and had complete sympathy for her over Lee.

[Kizzy]

Wasn't he? Bad timing or good? Lewd inappropriate comments to a woman young enough to be his daughter accompanied by a BB Jim to win campaign. Casey, of course, wasn't worried according to the mind readers. Sexism and homophobia, tick, tick. Now we all know he's neither! Oh Yeah LOL. Of course his Sexism was Linda's fault as he pointed out. How domineering was his conversation with Luisa? Loathsome manipulative man. I predict a lot more Casey hugging!

Young enough to be his granddaughter anne :idc:
How has he done it?....how!?

[Robodog]

It was a joke. An old one. It was lighthearted. A bit blue and a bit edgy as lots of jokes are.

But 2 main things about it :

1. It was meant for Casey, it was Casey's sense of humour and she laughed.
2. It was meant as a compliment and boost to Casey about her looks on her hardest day yet in the house.

Also - so what if people want to tell edgy jokes anyway?

What gives anyone the right to tell others what they can or cannot laugh at?

If you don't like it - so what?

There are loads of jokes/comedians/tv shows that i don't like. And so what?

Who am i to tell people what they can and cannot laugh at?

Loads of successful 'bad taste' comics out there - Ricky Gervais, Frankie Boyle, Jimmy Carr.

Do you really want to live in an ultra-censored world where people are only allowed to tell knock-knock jokes?

Even if jokes aren't funny to me - even if they are offensive to me - i still defend peoples rights to tell them!

Jokes shouldn't be censored just because some people don't know how to interpret them.

[Patricia4]

Still going on I see :joker:
It was a joke he was laughing and so did Casey.

[Seraphim]

I was dying to know too,glad Jim asked him and why shouldn't he?

Why were you dying to know? I don't get it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh haven't you heard, he's changed?:cheer:

A leopard never changes his spots ,hes still the same Jim ,hes just covered it ,has anyone else spotted since he arrogantly said in the diary room "I WILL win" how now hes suddenly changed from miserable gett to the life and soul of the party, before you do it DONT blame Linda for this,and how now hes a new man after she left, he showed the REAL jim in his rows and backstabbing of Linda,what your watching now is his win campaign ,all clever worked out ,hes a conman ,but believe him if you will

[anne666]

A leopard never changes his spots ,hes still the same Jim ,hes just covered it ,has anyone else spotted since he arrogantly said in the diary room "I WILL win" how now hes suddenly changed from miserable gett to the life and soul of the party, before you do it DONT blame Linda for this,and how now hes a new man after she left, he showed the REAL jim in his rows and backstabbing of Linda,what your watching now is his win campaign ,all clever worked out ,hes a conman ,but believe him if you will

Chuff love, that was a joke? I said it loud and clear in the post above that one. I totally agree. :hugesmile:

[chuff me dizzy]

Chuff love, that was a joke? I said it loud and clear in the post above that one. I totally agree. :hugesmile:

Silly me Anne ,Ive got such a twisted mind :sad:,Sorry Jim lad, hope you get the Sainthood you so deserve :angel:

[Robodog]

A leopard never changes his spots ,hes still the same Jim ,hes just covered it ,has anyone else spotted since he arrogantly said in the diary room "I WILL win" how now hes suddenly changed from miserable gett to the life and soul of the party, before you do it DONT blame Linda for this,and how now hes a new man after she left, he showed the REAL jim in his rows and backstabbing of Linda,what your watching now is his win campaign ,all clever worked out ,hes a conman ,but believe him if you will

He's the same Jim he always was. Funny, caring, grumpy at times but down to earth and real. That's why so many people like him. Including all the female housemate's mums - Sam's, Casey's and yes - even Luisa's!

Seems that everyone else can see him for the decent bloke he is - apart from a few like Linda and yourself who refuse to see any good in him no matter what he does. But as you say - a leopard never changes it's spots.

[Vanessa]

He's the same Jim he always was. Funny, caring, grumpy at times but down to earth and real. That's why so many people like him. Including all the female housemate's mums - Sam's, Casey's and yes - even Luisa's!

Seems that everyone else can see him for the decent bloke he is - apart from a few like Linda and yourself who refuse to see any good in him no matter what he does. But as you say - a leopard never changes it's spots.

:worship::worship::worship:

[Kizzy]

He is the same jim yes, we're not gullible leopards..... :joker:

[Kazanne]

Why were you dying to know? I don't get it.

Because I'm a curious soul,some would say nosey cow,I am interested in people I like, and like to find out about their lives.

[Vanessa]

I wouldn't, if someone was bi-sexual. I'd have asked if he had anyone special on the outside.

Nothing wrong with that question in my opinion.

[chuff me dizzy]

He's the same Jim he always was. Funny, caring, grumpy at times but down to earth and real. That's why so many people like him. Including all the female housemate's mums - Sam's, Casey's and yes - even Luisa's!

Seems that everyone else can see him for the decent bloke he is - apart from a few like Linda and yourself who refuse to see any good in him no matter what he does. But as you say - a leopard never changes it's spots.

Is he hellaslike ,why say something that can be proven to be wrong ?

[Robodog]

Is he hellaslike ,why say something that can be proven to be wrong ?

You're clutching at straws now, all because the HM you don't like is getting more and more popular.

We all saw the last 2 shows where the mums had love and compliments for Jim. What show have you been watching?

[chuff me dizzy]

You're clutching at straws now, all because the HM you don't like is getting more and more popular.

We all saw the last 2 shows where the mums had love and compliments for Jim. What show have you been watching?

Not the same one as you ,thats for sure

[Seraphim]

Because I'm a curious soul,some would say nosey cow,I am interested in people I like, and like to find out about their lives.

I'd already got a strong impression from watching the show that Ollie is single.

[Kazanne]

I'd already got a strong impression from watching the show that Ollie is single.

I'de never even hear of him or seen him,so I was curious about his life style,nothing wrong with that imo.he's a good looking guy and I thought the ladies would be flocking round him,but that wasn't so,so it made me wonder if he had someone on the outside.

[Vanessa]

I'd already got a strong impression from watching the show that Ollie is single.

Jim added "if you don't mind me asking". If Ollie didn't want to answer he would have told him it was too personal. But he said it was fine.

[Robodog]

Not the same one as you ,thats for sure

Ok. Let's run with your logic here.

So in your mind - Sam's, Casey's and Luisa's mums never came in the house through the clock and gave love and compliments to Jim.

Only I saw that ???

I take my hat off to you for daring to write such a fantastic well thought out post as that one

:joker: :xyxwave: :joker: :xyxwave: :joker: :xyxwave: :joker: :xyxwave: :joker:

[Beso]

I bet linda gave her boosoms a ginormous plumping at that one.

[Seraphim]

I don't really understand why some people cannot accept that everyone has their strengths and their weaknesses. I absolutely adore my dad, but I have to admit that he is very bigoted in many ways, although he's clever enough to cover it extremely well. There's nothing wrong with being a "fan" of Jim, and also recognising that he has flaws. You can laugh at his jokes, while realising they're in poor taste. And you should be able to divine when his behaviour or comments towards another person are out of place, tasteless or downright offensive.

After Lee's eviction, Jim spoke in a tone of authority to Casey, and told her to sit beside her. Casey did as she was told, like a dutiful child, and Jim placed his arm around her shoulders. That worried me. Casey didn't appear to need comfort from anyone and I think Jim just did it because he knew the cameras would be on Casey. There's nothing wrong with him wanting to be on the camera, but I didn't like the note of authority in his voice when he spoke to Casey.

[Vanessa]

I don't really understand why some people cannot accept that everyone has their strengths and their weaknesses. I absolutely adore my dad, but I have to admit that he is very bigoted in many ways, although he's clever enough to cover it extremely well. There's nothing wrong with being a "fan" of Jim, and also recognising that he has flaws. You can laugh at his jokes, while realising they're in poor taste. And you should be able to divine that when his behaviour or comments towards another person are out of place, tasteless or downright offensive.

After Lee's eviction, Jim spoke in a tone of authority to Casey, and told her to sit beside her. Casey did as she was told, like a dutiful child, and Jim placed his arm around her shoulders. That worried me. Casey didn't appear to need comfort from anyone and I think Jim just did it because he knew the cameras would be on Casey. There's nothing wrong with him wanting to be on the camera, but I didn't like the note of authority in his voice when he spoke to Casey.

There's nothing wrong with that. He just wanted to comfort her. Why everyone sees anything that Jim does as sinister? He's just a nomal guy. :huh:

[Kazanne]

I don't really understand why some people cannot accept that everyone has their strengths and their weaknesses. I absolutely adore my dad, but I have to admit that he is very bigoted in many ways, although he's clever enough to cover it extremely well. There's nothing wrong with being a "fan" of Jim, and also recognising that he has flaws. You can laugh at his jokes, while realising they're in poor taste. And you should be able to divine that when his behaviour or comments towards another person are out of place, tasteless or downright offensive.

After Lee's eviction, Jim spoke in a tone of authority to Casey, and told her to sit beside her. Casey did as she was told, like a dutiful child, and Jim placed his arm around her shoulders. That worried me. Casey didn't appear to need comfort from anyone and I think Jim just did it because he knew the cameras would be on Casey. There's nothing wrong with him wanting to be on the camera, but I didn't like the note of authority in his voice when he spoke to Casey.

Peoples minds work differently I guess,I took that as a comforting thing as Lee had left,I don't think "Oh he's being creepy" I think "Aw that was nice" why does everything seem to have a sexual undertone with some people?My stepdad also says some things that people would be deemed close to the edge,but it doesn't make him a bad person,just an old fashioned one.

[Kazanne]

There's nothing wrong with that. He just wanted to comfort her. Why everyone sees anything that Jim does as sinister? He's just a nomal guy. :huh:

No one can touch anyone anymore unless they have an ulterior motive.

[Seraphim]

There's nothing wrong with that. He just wanted to comfort her. Why everyone sees anything that Jim does as sinister? He's just a nomal guy. :huh:

Well, I don't think he's a normal guy, actually. I've met thousands of men in my life, in all different capacities, and none would have behaved like that towards Casey. I dated a guy who made a couple of sexual jokes to me after a couple of dates, despite otherwise being a perfect gentleman, and I broke it off, because I didn't want to be put in the position of either grinning and bearing it in public, or having to embarrass him in public by calling him out for it. When I explained the reason I was calling it off he told me that every single girlfriend he'd had said the same thing. His only real relationship had been a six month affair with a married woman he'd met at a party and had sex with in a cupboard the same night. Just about all the women he knew utterly despised him.

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't really understand why some people cannot accept that everyone has their strengths and their weaknesses. I absolutely adore my dad, but I have to admit that he is very bigoted in many ways, although he's clever enough to cover it extremely well. There's nothing wrong with being a "fan" of Jim, and also recognising that he has flaws. You can laugh at his jokes, while realising they're in poor taste. And you should be able to divine that when his behaviour or comments towards another person are out of place, tasteless or downright offensive.

After Lee's eviction, Jim spoke in a tone of authority to Casey, and told her to sit beside her. Casey did as she was told, like a dutiful child, and Jim placed his arm around her shoulders. That worried me. Casey didn't appear to need comfort from anyone and I think Jim just did it because he knew the cameras would be on Casey. There's nothing wrong with him wanting to be on the camera, but I didn't like the note of authority in his voice when he spoke to Casey.

He used her ,but some claimed "Wasnt he lovely with Casey ?" NO he was using her and knowing his history having a quick grope at the same time ,as you point out ,shes wasnt upset in the slightest, but hes canvassing ,its like watching Cameron holding babies in the run up to the general election

[chuff me dizzy]

There's nothing wrong with that. He just wanted to comfort her. Why everyone sees anything that Jim does as sinister? He's just a nomal guy. :huh:

Hes hardly even spoken to her ,so why would he "comfort her?" she didnt give a flying chuff that Lee left

[Vanessa]

Hes hardly even spoken to her ,so why would he "comfort her?" she didnt give a flying chuff that Lee left

We must be watching a different show then.

[Vanessa]

Well, I don't think he's a normal guy, actually. I've met thousands of men in my life, in all different capacities, and none would have behaved like that towards Casey. I dated a guy who made a couple of sexual jokes to me after a couple of dates, despite otherwise being a perfect gentleman, and I broke it off, because I didn't want to be put in the position of either grinning and bearing it in public, or having to embarrass him in public by calling him out for it. When I explained the reason I was calling it off he told me that every single girlfriend he'd had said the same thing. The guy's only real relationship had been a six month affair with a married woman he'd met at a party and had sex with in a cupboard the same night. Just about all the women he knew utterly despised him.

I don't agree at all. Sorry.

[sampvt]

Well, I don't think he's a normal guy, actually. I've met thousands of men in my life, in all different capacities, and none would have behaved like that towards Casey. I dated a guy who made a couple of sexual jokes to me after a couple of dates, despite otherwise being a perfect gentleman, and I broke it off, because I didn't want to be put in the position of either grinning and bearing it in public, or having to embarrass him in public by calling him out for it. When I explained the reason I was calling it off he told me that every single girlfriend he'd had said the same thing. The guy's only real relationship had been a six month affair with a married woman he'd met at a party and had sex with in a cupboard the same night. Just about all the women he knew utterly despised him.

Bringing your own personal feelings into a discussion is not healthy. Linda showed her personal experience card in the house and she got oiked very quickly. Being blinded by prejudices isn't healthy as well we all know and therein lies the reason for your inability to see what Jims all about.

If you could put aside your hatred for men you would see Jims aims are plausible and lovable at the same time. My old dad used to say....Let not one man suffer for another mans failings.

[Seraphim]

He used her ,but some claimed "Wasnt he lovely with Casey ?" NO he was using her and knowing his history having a quick grope at the same time ,as you point out ,shes wasnt upset in the slightest, but hes canvassing ,its like watching Cameron holding babies in the run up to the general election

My feelings entirely. :thumbs:

[Lex]

:umm2:


This thread is showing how desperate the 'anti-Jim' posters have gotten!
I remember George Formby saying this line in an old 1930's movie. I can't remember anyone thinking that it was anything more than 'Humorous' then!...Get a sense of humour Wong...it was an old JOKE! :nono:

[Seraphim]

Bringing your own personal feelings into a discussion is not healthy. Linda showed her personal experience card in the house and she got oiked very quickly. Being blinded by prejudices isn't healthy as well we all know and therein lies the reason for your inability to see what Jims all about.

If you could put aside your hatred for men you would see Jims aims are plausible and lovable at the same time. My old dad used to say....Let not one man suffer for another mans failings.

I wasn't bringing my personal feelings into it. I liked him. I was in love with him, to be honest. I only broke it off because I didn't want to embarrass him in public when I pulled him up for making humilating, sexual jokes at my expense in front of whoever else was there. I'd have been mortified if it had been my parents.

I brought everyone else's feelings into it: all the women absolutely despised him. One of the kindest, nicest women I have ever known seemingly said "I'd have thought she'd have more taste." when she heard we were dating. She was right. He put on a nice gentleman act initially with me so I'd go out with him. The act slipped after a couple of dates, in spite of the fact that we were still at the holding hands and cuddling stage.

I still like him very much and when we split up, I said he'd find someone who loved him completely the way he was. I just wasn't right for him.

[Lex]

I don't really understand why some people cannot accept that everyone has their strengths and their weaknesses. I absolutely adore my dad, but I have to admit that he is very bigoted in many ways,


That'll do for me, he sounds a smashing bloke, get him in the next civilian series...i'll join his fanclub! :thumbs:

[sampvt]

I wasn't bringing my personal feelings into it. I liked him. I dated him, and I only broke it off because I didn't want to embarrass him in public when I pulled him up for making humilating, sexual jokes at my expense in front of whoever else was there. I'd have been mortified if it had been my parents.

I brought everyone else's feelings into it: all the women absolutely despised him. One of the kindest, nicest women I have ever known seemingly said "I'd have thought she'd have more taste." when she heard we were dating. She was right. He put on a nice gentleman act initially with me, so I was fooled into thinking he was a nice guy. The act slipped after a couple of dates, in spite of the fact that we were still at the holding hands and cuddling stage.

I still like him very much and when we split up, I said he'd find someone who loved him completely the way he was. I just wasn't right for him.

I don't want to make this personal but you opened the door. I dated a woman once that didn't like holding hands in public. Does this mean all women are frigid. I think not. Jim is an old fashioned comedian and is loved by Millions, your analogy comes from a personal basis, not a generalisation which we should all be governed by. If you are to measure Jims actions by the actions of another, the end result comes out as a personal opinion based on issues that are not relevant. I make sexual jokes and ridicule my wife all the time, as she does me but we have been married for 42 years and are very very happy and in love. I guess we possess the ability to forgive and forget and apply common sence most of the time.

[Seraphim]

That'll do for me, he sounds a smashing bloke, get him in the next civilian series...i'll join his fanclub! :thumbs:

To his great credit, he hides it very well.. He was brought up in a different generation and some prejudices are rooted in early childhood. He made a conscious effort never to pass on his prejudices to his kids, and no-one would know it unless they were around him for years. My brother is gay, and he doesn't know. His boyfriends are treated like any other member of the family. I only know because I'm a daddy's girl, like Jim's daughter, and I love nothing better than to hole myself up with him for hours, listening to every word he says. I think he's wonderful.

[Seraphim]

I don't want to make this personal but you opened the door. I dated a woman once that didn't like holding hands in public. Does this mean all women are frigid. I think not. Jim is an old fashioned comedian and is loved by Millions, your analogy comes from a personal basis, not a generalisation which we should all be governed by. If you are to measure Jims actions by the actions of another, the end result comes out as a personal opinion based on issues that are not relevant. I make sexual jokes and ridicule my wife all the time, as she does me but we have been married for 42 years and are very very happy and in love. I guess we possess the ability to forgive and forget and apply common sence most of the time.

I agree. I told that ex of mine that he'd meet someone who didn't mind his jokes, and that he needn't change: it was just that I personally had a problem with it. That's when he told me that all his ex girlfriends had said the same thing.

Having said that, he once told me an anecodote which he thought was hilarious about a young woman who had done a short stint in his office. She had to make a speech before leaving, and the boss had utterly humiliated her deliberately by making a crude, sexual joke at her expense before she sat down. The whole room (all men) just about wet their pants with laughter. Yeah, it was a joke, but it was used as a weapon in that case. Had she been an older woman, she'd have told him where to go, walked out and filed a sexual discrimination suit, but being a younger, insecure woman, she sat down and tried to conceal her humiliation. When I expressed my disgust, his response was that no-one liked her anyway, so it served her right.

[Niamh.]

I agree. I told that ex of mine that he'd meet someone who didn't mind his jokes, and that he needn't change. It was just that I personally had a problem with it. That's when he told me that all his ex girlfriends had said the same thing.

:laugh2:

[Seraphim]

:laugh2:

yeah, well.. I only had a few dates with him. Maybe he'd have got worse.

:laugh2:

[Niamh.]

yeah, well.. I only had a few dates with him. Maybe he'd have got worse.

:laugh2:

Lucky escape i reckon :laugh:

[Lex]

To his great credit, he hides it very well.. He was brought up in a different generation and some prejudices are rooted in early childhood. He made a conscious effort never to pass on his prejudices to his kids, and no-one would know it unless they were around him for years. My brother is gay, and he doesn't know. His boyfriends are treated like any other member of the family. I only know because I'm a daddy's girl, like Jim's daughter, and I love nothing better than to hole myself up with him for hours, listening to every word he says. I think he's wonderful.

Yep, he certainly sounds like a good DAD...I have 10 kids [5 of each, between 64 and 46] and love every one of them the same!...And the whole point of our lives is to love our babies as much as we can...that's what we're here for!
I grew up when a black man was 'a darkie' and the only ones we saw in Barnsley were the ones that we loved , like Paul Robeson [my favouriite singer] and the comical ones like Rochester , or the savage beasts like on the Tarzan films...In the 40's when I first became aware of gay people [queers as they were called the] we thought that they were as funny as hell...but was secretly scared of them...it was a lack of education about homosexuality I suppose,...but though we would joke about the ones that we thought was gay...I was never knowingly cruel to any of them that I came across! [perhaps I did upset one or two...but honestly not by intention]...because of the war...I freely admit to being xenophobic toward 'The Germans...and The Italians for many years...but I suspect that you can understand that , that was caused by circumstance!
Also,...I freely admit that I am probably what you would call a male chauvinist, in as much as I would love the world to turn back the years to when the Man went out to work to provide for his family that was being looked after by their mother at home! ....Not to dominate or enslave as many young people would preach that it was ...but to be a happy normal loving family like it used to be!
Sure...you could probably cite a few examples of where this wasn't the case,...and you'd be right,[there's always been a few bastards...pardon my french.] but then the world's never been perfect...and is everyone that is living the modern life happy??
There's lots more,...but I don't want to bore you,...so i'll finish by saying your Dad will always love you...even if you think he is wrong to be himself and the product of his age and upbringing ! :thumbs: ...and you take gameshows too seriously. :hugesmile: ..:


Cheers Seraphim.

[Seraphim]

Yep, he certainly sounds like a good DAD...I have 10 kids [5 of each, between 64 and 46] and love every one of them the same!...And the whole point of our lives is to love our babies as much as we can...that's what we're here for!
I grew up when a black man was 'a darkie' and the only ones we saw in Barnsley were the ones that we loved , like Paul Robeson [my favouriite singer] and the comical ones like Rochester , or the savage beasts like on the Tarzan films...In the 40's when I first became aware of gay people [queers as they were called the] we thought that they were as funny as hell...but was secretly scared of them...it was a lack of education about homosexuality I suppose,...but though we would joke about the ones that we thought was gay...I was never knowingly cruel to any of them that I came across! [perhaps I did upset one or two...but honestly not by intention]...because of the war...I freely admit to being xenophobic toward 'The Germans...and The Italians for many years...but I suspect that you can understand that , that was caused by circumstance!
Also,...I freely admit that I am probably what you would call a male chauvinist, in as much as I would love the world to turn back the years to when the Man went out to work to provide for his family that was being looked after by their mother at home! ....Not to dominate or enslave as many young people would preach that it was ...but to be a happy normal loving family like it used to be!
Sure...you could probably cite a few examples of where this wasn't the case,...and you'd be right,[there's always been a few bastards...pardon my french.] but then the world's never been perfect...and is everyone that is living the modern life happy??
There's lots more,...but I don't want to bore you,...so i'll finish by saying your Dad will always love you...even if you think he is wrong to be himself and the product of his age and upbringing ! :thumbs: ...and you take gameshows too seriously. :hugesmile: ..:


Cheers Seraphim.

:D Wonderful post, Lex. I'd be happy to read far more, and I'd never be bored by anything you say. Your posts are always a great read. I don't think my Dad is wrong to be himself. I think he is himself, and it's great with me. The fact that he can overcome his rooted prejudices for the sake of showing the best example he can to his kids is to his great credit.

[chuff me dizzy]

This is what St Jim said about dirty peado Saville " As odd as he was, Savile can’t defend himself. The bloke’s dead for God’s sake. Let’s move on.” "

[Niamh.]

Lex 10 kids, wow!

[chuff me dizzy]

I wonder where his kids were when he threw their Mum downstairs or battered her with barbell

[Josy]

I wonder where his kids were when he threw their Mum downstairs or battered her with barbell

Jim doesn't have any kids with the 1 wife that accused him of assault.

[Kazanne]

I wonder where his kids were when he threw their Mum downstairs or battered her with barbell

They didn't have children Chuff.

[Seraphim]

...and you take gameshows too seriously.

Really? I haven't actually voted for anyone yet ;)

[chuff me dizzy]

Jim doesn't have any kids with the 1 wife that accused him of assault.

He battered more than 1 wife

[Lex]

:D Wonderful post, Lex. I'd be happy to read far more, and I'd never be bored by anything you say. Your posts are always a great read. I don't think my Dad is wrong to be himself. I think he is himself, and it's great with me. The fact that he can overcome his rooted prejudices for the sake of showing the best example he can to his kids is to his great credit.

That's lovely, i'm glad that you have the same relationship as I do with my kids. It's the meaning of life you know! :thumbs:

Lex 10 kids, wow!

Yes, my Gladys couldn't keep her hands off me ...but I didn't stuggle much Niamh..because she was gorgeous! :wink:..:joker:

[Kazanne]

He battered more than 1 wife

He didn't Chuff,seriously

[Niamh.]

That's lovely, i'm glad that you have the same relationship as I do with my kids. It's the meaning of life you know! :thumbs:



Yes, my Gladys couldn't keep her hands off me ...but I didn't stuggle much Niamh..because she was gorgeous! :wink:..:joker:

:laugh: N'awww

[Kazanne]

That's lovely, i'm glad that you have the same relationship as I do with my kids. It's the meaning of life you know! :thumbs:



Yes, my Gladys couldn't keep her hands off me ...but I didn't stuggle much Niamh..because she was gorgeous! :wink:..:joker:

aw Lex,you sound like a lovely man and all those lovely kids:lovedup:lucky Gladys

[Josy]

He battered more than 1 wife

That's libellous. As is a lot of the other stuff you and some others have been plastering over this forum.

And I have pointed this out to you twice before and both times you never bothered to reply....

Why were you supporting Jim before the Frank Carson drama if all of the stuff you have been posting bothered you so much?

[Kazanne]

This is one of the reasons I like Jim so much
1.28pm: Casey: "There's nothing wrong with Page 3, everyone's got boobs." Jim: "I know what you mean, I need to go to the gym!" #bbuklive

:joker::joker::joker:
No doubt someone will put a sexual spin on that,I thought it funny.

[Seraphim]

This is one of the reasons I like Jim so much
1.28pm: Casey: "There's nothing wrong with Page 3, everyone's got boobs." Jim: "I know what you mean, I need to go to the gym!"

:joker::joker::joker:



I love it. :D

[Vanessa]

This is one of the reasons I like Jim so much
1.28pm: Casey: "There's nothing wrong with Page 3, everyone's got boobs." Jim: "I know what you mean, I need to go to the gym!" #bbuklive

:joker::joker::joker:
No doubt someone will put a sexual spin on that,I thought it funny.

:laugh3::laugh3:

[Seraphim]

Yes, my Gladys couldn't keep her hands off me ...but I didn't stuggle much Niamh..because she was gorgeous! :wink:..:joker:

If my beloved said that (bolded above) about me, he'd be sleeping in the spare room. :laugh2:

[Cherie]

I wonder where his kids were when he threw their Mum downstairs or battered her with barbell

They didn't have children Chuff.

He battered more than 1 wife

That's libellous. As is a lot of the other stuff you and some others have been plastering over this forum.

And I have pointed this out to you twice before and both times you never bothered to reply....

Why were you supporting Jim before the Frank Carson drama if all of the stuff you have been posting bothered you so much?


:joker: if it didn't happen make it up, problem with that is not everyone will take what is written as a fact and will actually google stuff for themselves.

[Patricia4]

Chuff I agreed with you at the start because you was a fan of Jim but now you've changed why?

[chuff me dizzy]

That's libellous. As is a lot of the other stuff you and some others have been plastering over this forum.

And I have pointed this out to you twice before and both times you never bothered to reply....

Why were you supporting Jim before the Frank Carson drama if all of the stuff you have been posting bothered you so much?

If you think back I said when he went in I hated him,but would give him the benefit of the doubt,which I did, the Frank Carson thing proved to me to stick to your initial judgement because its very rare its wrong ,its not liked I didnt like him from the start,I gave him a chance,Im not sure but think I even joined fan club, but his treatment against Linda just proved to me what an utter arse he is

[the truth]

If you think back I said when he went in I hated him,but would give him the benefit of the doubt,which I did, the Frank Carson thing proved to me to stick to your initial judgement because its very rare its wrong ,its not liked I didnt like him from the start,I gave him a chance,Im not sure but think I even joined fan club, but his treatment against Linda just proved to me what an utter arse he is

why areny you so furious with psycho linda for endlessly dragging up the past and for besmirching her late husband ? she was even bragging about how many times shed cheated on him? strange how you backed jjim before the frank carson dressing room? sounds spectacularly fickle

[chuff me dizzy]

why areny you so furious with psycho linda for endlessly dragging up the past and for besmirching her late husband ? she was even bragging about how many times shed cheated on him? strange how you backed jjim before the frank carson dressing room? sounds spectacularly fickle

"Psycho Linda " ? is there any need

[Mystic Mock]

I really don't get this, who cares if it's an old joke that most people have never heard before in their life, Jim still told a disturbing joke and it doesn't mean that people have to go off Jim for it but acknowledging that it was wrong is not exactly that much to ask because if Dappy, Luisa, or Lee had have said those things I bet everyone would've been going berserk, even these same people that are saying it's just an old joke.

[Josy]

If you think back I said when he went in I hated him,but would give him the benefit of the doubt,which I did, the Frank Carson thing proved to me to stick to your initial judgement because its very rare its wrong ,its not liked I didnt like him from the start,I gave him a chance,Im not sure but think I even joined fan club, but his treatment against Linda just proved to me what an utter arse he is

So then you gave him a chance as you say even though you knew about his past and it never bothered you enough to 'not give him a chance' but now you dislike him again you bring his past up at every opportunity.

My point still stands, you can't have found his past that disgusting (to the point where you post you physically feel sick) if you were willing to give him a chance in the first place..

[Josy]

"Psycho Linda " ? is there any need

You call Jim worse..

[Mystic Mock]

You call Jim worse..

What has Chuff called him though tbf Josy? I mean I've saw some Jim haters call him a "paedophile" and **** like that.

[Josy]

What has Chuff called him though tbf Josy? I mean I've saw some Jim haters call him a "paedophile" and **** like that.

A lot of things

[Mystic Mock]

A lot of things

I bet not to the levels of calling him a "paedophile" though which I think is low considering he got proved innocent of that crime.

[Josy]

I bet not to the levels of calling him a "paedophile" though which I think is low considering he got proved innocent of that crime.

What's your point Mock? Chuff has said awful things about Jim on here and not only Jim but his son too, I'm sure she will back that up if you ask her.

[flamingGalah!]

I bet not to the levels of calling him a "paedophile" though which I think is low considering he got proved innocent of that crime.

He didn't even need to get proved innocent as he was never charged with anything & never went to court...

Those on here insinuating or blatently saying otherwise should watch themselves as his lawyers could be watching forums... :nono:

[Mystic Mock]

What's your point Mock? Chuff has said awful things about Jim on here and not only Jim but his son too, I'm sure she will back that up if you ask her.

What I'm trying to say is that Chuff just states an opinion on Jim based on what I've saw, admittedly if she has gone for Jim's Son then that's a low blow as his not even a contestant on the show so I don't think that he deserves attack unless he attacks the fans of the show.

[Josy]

What I'm trying to say is that Chuff just states an opinion on Jim based on what I've saw, admittedly if she has gone for Jim's Son then that's a low blow as his not even a contestant on the show so I don't think that he deserves attack unless he attacks the fans of the show.

And the truth was stating his opinion of Linda above?

[Mystic Mock]

He didn't even need to get proved innocent as he was never charged with anything & never went to court...

Those on here insinuating or blatently saying otherwise should watch themselves as his lawyers could be watching forums... :nono:

It's not just on here though Galah, someone called him a "kiddy fiddler" on FB a couple of weeks ago, I personally find it disgusting and I think that's the lowest and desperate any Jim hater can go imo.

[Arrow]

I bet not to the levels of calling him a "paedophile" though which I think is low considering he got proved innocent of that crime.

Jim has never been accused of doing anything to someone under aged ever

[Mystic Mock]

And the truth was stating his opinion of Linda above?

I wasn't attacking The Truth's opinion though, I know Chuff was and I don't really agree with it because imo Linda did behave quite psychotic in the house.:joker:

I think she still deserved to be in there over gruesome threesome in Ollie, Casey, and Sam.

[Mystic Mock]

Jim has never been accused of doing anything to someone under aged ever

Tell that to some people on the internet then, if you go on FB you will at least find one person calling him a kiddy fiddler or a rapist.

[Arrow]

Tell that to some people on the internet then, if you go on FB you will at least find one person calling him a kiddy fiddler or a rapist.

The way you worded your statement came across as if you thought he was cleared of a crime which was sexual assault against a minor

[Mystic Mock]

The way you worded your statement came across as if you thought he was cleared of a crime which was sexual assault against a minor

Well the only thing I knew about his case before he went on BB was that he was arrested by the Jimmy Saville Police and was cleared of charges.

[joeysteele]

Tell that to some people on the internet then, if you go on FB you will at least find one person calling him a kiddy fiddler or a rapist.

That is unfortunately because he was originally arrested by the yewtree Saville team,which Jim was furious about as the allegations against Jim were not from those who were underage at the time they were inferring the allegations took place.

It is a reason too why Jim and his lawyers did their own investigations too as well as the police and in the end none of the allegations could be brought to court.
That is likely why the awful FB sites have some insinuating that he was involved in underage sexual allegations because of the Saville team being the arresting officers.

For me,just my opinion, I fail to see how it can be that any justifiable inferences as to Jim now on this issue can be raised, since no matter who the arresting team were and no matter who the people were making allegations against him, not one of them had the substance for any action to be taken.

Jim has no charges to answer as to this in the eyes of the law after over a year of investigations into him and the allegations.
There is nothing to charge Jim with and much more to the point nothing to investigate him further for now either,hence all the bail restrictons finished with too.

I thank all powers that be, that these things are decided by the Police and the CPS and not have kangaroo court like activities inferring someone has commited crimes when the law has by its action, made known there are no allegations now and more importantly also certainly no charges for Jim to answer to 'at all,not a single one even'.

[abhorson]

I really don't get this, who cares if it's an old joke that most people have never heard before in their life, Jim still told a disturbing joke and it doesn't mean that people have to go off Jim for it but acknowledging that it was wrong is not exactly that much to ask because if Dappy, Luisa, or Lee had have said those things I bet everyone would've been going berserk, even these same people that are saying it's just an old joke.

So, so disagree. If anyone else had said it, it would have been stupid. (too young) for that joke to a 29 year old. Just the Jim bashers who are desperate.

[smeagol]

is this thread still going wow

[Cherie]

is this thread still going wow

It's been a slow day lol

[Vanessa]

is this thread still going wow

Some people just don't get Jim sense of humour. It's a bit Carry On. :laugh:

[thesheriff443]

That's libellous. As is a lot of the other stuff you and some others have been plastering over this forum.

And I have pointed this out to you twice before and both times you never bothered to reply....

Why were you supporting Jim before the Frank Carson drama if all of the stuff you have been posting bothered you so much?

josy as you are now part of admin!, if you consider posts from members to be libelous you should remove them.

jim is getting abuse!, so is linda, lee and luisa, one rule for all or none at all!.

[Robodog]

I'm gonna repeat this because i think some people on here would do well to read it. . .


It was a joke. An old one. It was lighthearted. A bit blue and a bit edgy as lots of jokes are.

But 2 main things about it :

1. It was meant for Casey, it was Casey's sense of humour and she laughed.
2. It was meant as a compliment and boost to Casey about her looks on her hardest day yet in the house.

Also - so what if people want to tell edgy jokes anyway?

What gives anyone the right to tell others what they can or cannot laugh at?

If you don't like it - so what?

There are loads of jokes/comedians/tv shows that i don't like. And so what?

Who am i to tell people what they can and cannot laugh at?

Loads of successful 'bad taste' comics out there - Ricky Gervais, Frankie Boyle, Jimmy Carr.

Do you really want to live in an ultra-censored world where people are only allowed to tell knock-knock jokes?

Even if jokes aren't funny to me - even if they are offensive to me - i still defend peoples rights to tell them!

[thesheriff443]

is this thread still going wow

terry the turkey says hi:xyxwave:

[chuff me dizzy]

You call Jim worse..

And he deserves it

[Seraphim]

I don't know why people cannot stick to the main issue - in this case Jim's series of crude, sexual jokes to a much younger woman.

Links and quotes etc. which help to back up someone's points are fair enough, but mud-slinging and unfounded allegations don't add anything and divert from the discussion.

[smeagol]

terry the turkey says hi:xyxwave:

hi sheriff and terry the turkey lol

[Kazanne]

Some people just don't get Jim sense of humour. It's a bit Carry On. :laugh:

:joker: well done vanessa:hugesmile:

[Josy]

And he deserves it

And if you think that then fair enough but don't then question someone else for calling Linda a name because they obviously think she deserves that..

[abhorson]

is this thread still going wow

:joker: T:joker:hey need these moments.

[Alf]

He battered more than 1 wife
Are you willing to give evidence in a court of law?

[MrWong]

This thread is showing how desperate the 'anti-Jim' posters have gotten!
I remember George Formby saying this line in an old 1930's movie. I can't remember anyone thinking that it was anything more than 'Humorous' then!...Get a sense of humour Wong...it was an old JOKE! :nono:

That comment along with the the other ones about unzipping his flies when they hugged and the one about friends with benefits suggesting she should give him a blow job is creepy af! Especially as she constantly refers to Jim as a father figure.

I have a sense of humour thanks. That **** wasn't funny.

[dwarling]

I'm gonna repeat this because i think some people on here would do well to read it. . .


It was a joke. An old one. It was lighthearted. A bit blue and a bit edgy as lots of jokes are.

But 2 main things about it :

1. It was meant for Casey, it was Casey's sense of humour and she laughed.
2. It was meant as a compliment and boost to Casey about her looks on her hardest day yet in the house.

Also - so what if people want to tell edgy jokes anyway?

What gives anyone the right to tell others what they can or cannot laugh at?

If you don't like it - so what?

There are loads of jokes/comedians/tv shows that i don't like. And so what?

Who am i to tell people what they can and cannot laugh at?

Loads of successful 'bad taste' comics out there - Ricky Gervais, Frankie Boyle, Jimmy Carr.

Do you really want to live in an ultra-censored world where people are only allowed to tell knock-knock jokes?

Even if jokes aren't funny to me - even if they are offensive to me - i still defend peoples rights to tell them!

Well said'...I agree,..seems you can't say anything these day's..

I really wish people would lighten up,..comedians will go extinct at this rate.

[AnnieK]

Good god...15 pages?!? Can people not just accept that different people find different things funny / offensive..

[robroy_2000]

It's a old bernard manning joke

[thesheriff443]

Good god...15 pages?!? Can people not just accept that different people find different things funny / offensive..

they can, be we like to talk about it, that's why we are on a forum.

[abhorson]

Bernard Manning? Saw him not long before he passed away. Love him or hate him, this one made me laugh... Why did Osama bin Laden pick up his baby sheep?

[abhorson]

Because it was Islamb.

[Kazanne]

Well just watching Celebrity millionaire,and picked up on something Gloria Hunniford said,one of their answers was 1 Direction,her comedy partner quipped "You'de,probably be Harry's type" to which she answered Oh,no he's far too OLD for me" now are we supposed to be offended by that insinuation? ,really? they are just jokes

[Kazanne]

Because it was Islamb.

Can I laugh? :joker::joker::joker:

[thesheriff443]

Can I laugh? :joker::joker::joker:

you sicko:joker:

[joeysteele]

Well just watching Celebrity millionaire,and picked up on something Gloria Hunniford said,one of their answers was 1 Direction,her comedy partner quipped "You'de,probably be Harry's type" to which she answered Oh,no he's far too OLD for me" now are we supposed to be offended by that insinuation? ,really? they are just jokes

Brilliant addition to this thread Kazanne, absolutely brilliant, really puts the whole thing into the right persepctive.
Really well done.

[Kazanne]

And this posted on TIBB today in the Fred Talbot thread
On hearing the charges he faced Fred Talbot leapt in Liverpool Dock to escape. He was caught soon after bobbing up and down on a small buoy

All said in jest,no malice,but is anyone offended by that?

[smeagol]

incest a game for all the family

[Kazanne]

Brilliant addition to this thread Kazanne, absolutely brilliant, really puts the whole thing into the right persepctive.
Really well done.

Thankyou Joey,someone as inoffensive as Gloria says that but it could be interpreted quite differently,and if that was a male who said it about a girl,they would be deemed as a perv,its very unfair imo.:hugesmile:

[abhorson]

Can I laugh? :joker::joker::joker:

Of course you can:joker:

[Kazanne]

incest a game for all the family

smeagol,I would spank you but I might get into trouble:devil:

[abhorson]

incest a game for all the family


My sense of humour:joker:

[Amy Jade]

I just saw it and I wasn't offended but it wasn't funny in the slightest either imo, just cringe worthy and quite desperate

[thesheriff443]

I was not offended by jims joke,but as a father who has a daughter who is now nineteen and who I used to bath when she was younger I found it cring worthy.
and this is my 5000 post.:shocked:

[chuff me dizzy]

I was not offended by jims joke,but as a father who has a daughter who is now nineteen and who I used to bath when she was younger I found it cring worthy.

Very,very cringy

[Kazanne]

I was not offended by jims joke,but as a father who has a daughter who is now nineteen and who I used to bath when she was younger I found it cring worthy.
and this is my 5000 post.:shocked:

So what about the Gloria Hunniford remark I mentioned sheriff,did you find that offensive? and the one posted on the fred Talbot thread.just curious,as I have a 10 year old daughter and I wasn't offended at all.do you think its a dad thing?

[abhorson]

A joke is a joke. Whether you find it distasteful or inappropriate for the occasion or not. It is still a joke. And on this occasion it was clearly a joke.

But if you see differently, who cares.

[smeagol]

hehe

[Alf]

What kind of people complain to ofcom?

Do you know any?

[Livia]

Jesus, is this ****ing ridiculous thread still going?

It goes to show that there's so little for Jim's detractors to latch on to... they'll grab at anything.

[Niamh.]

So what about the Gloria Hunniford remark I mentioned sheriff,did you find that offensive? and the one posted on the fred Talbot thread.just curious,as I have a 10 year old daughter and I wasn't offended at all.do you think its a dad thing?

he did say he didn't find the Jim joke offensive, just cringeworthy

[Livia]

What kind of people complain to ofcom?

Do you know any?

Whoever they are they need a hobby.

[Niamh.]

Jesus, is this ****ing ridiculous thread still going?

It goes to show that there's so little for Jim's detractors to latch on to... they'll grab at anything.

there's just as many Jim fans posting in here (if not more)

[Kazanne]

he did say he didn't find the Jim joke offensive, just cringeworthy

I know Niamh,I wasn't having a go ,I like sheriff,I was genuinely interested in what he finds offensive out of a couple of things posted in here.

[abhorson]

there's just as many Jim fans posting in here (if not more)

We don't want the Luisa fans to feel all alone.

[Niamh.]

We don't want the Luisa fans to feel all alone.

you're very considerate :love:

[abhorson]

you're very considerate :love:

My pleasure xx

[thesheriff443]

So what about the Gloria Hunniford remark I mentioned sheriff,did you find that offensive? and the one posted on the fred Talbot thread.just curious,as I have a 10 year old daughter and I wasn't offended at all.do you think its a dad thing?

I think, it depends on the person that is saying it, I don't have a problem with jim or care if he wins, but I do think he has been holding back so much!

if you look back at the year jim has had with that investigation its like sticking your head in a hungry lions mouth!, with that comment.

you cant compare Gloria's comment to jims, as its like chalk and cheese.

it could be a dad thing with regards to his comment.

[Robodog]

Whoever they are they need a hobby.

Spot on.

People who complain to Ofcom are busybodies.

If i don't like a tv show - i simply turn it off.

Why some people can't do the same is beyond me.

If the sort of people who complained about jokes ran the world - then the world would be a very unfunny, intense and boring place.

[thesheriff443]

there's just as many Jim fans posting in here (if not more)

very true niamh, for some of us we are debating the subject and giving our opinions, I don't think its got any posts removed yet:joker: so its all good.

[abhorson]

But we leave hoping it will die its natural death. and the **** keeps coming. The right to reply is always important.

[Videostar]

Sam really believes she going to win doesn't she...awww the innocence of youth. :joker:

[abhorson]

Sam really believes she going to win doesn't she...awww the innocence of youth. :joker:


Better off in a morgue. JOKE.

[Videostar]

Better off in a morgue. JOKE.

Careful, the humour police on here will be after you. ;)

[abhorson]

Careful, the humour police on here will be after you. ;)

:joker::joker:

[abhorson]

Frig, she must have held a big one. Not the only dick she is close too.

[MrWong]

He was on about her tits tonight :umm2:

[Seraphim]

He was on about her tits tonight :umm2:

Yup.. And insisted she come to sit beside him again, even though she refused twice. However, the scene of him and her when he made reference to her "muscles" was definitely taken in good part. She looked a bit fed up of it by the time he said "I've got double G pants."

[Livia]

And Dappy went on and on about his schlong and beguiled us with the usual sexual chat.

[Kazanne]

And BB asked them all sorts of intimate questions about wet dreams and such,bloody shocking ,I say

[Videostar]

And Dappy went on and on about his schlong and beguiled us with the usual sexual chat.

But he's young, so it's alright.

It's amazing that those who dislike Jim dislike him because they think he's all the "ist's, ism's and phobic's" in the world, but they are ageist towards him. :joker:

[Seraphim]

And Dappy went on and on about his schlong and beguiled us with the usual sexual chat.

True enough.. and BB encouraged everything by asking all those disgusting questions. I was so shocked! Sadly, I've run out of paper and ink, so I cannot write another letter of complaint. :P

[Videostar]

I was not offended by jims joke,but as a father who has a daughter who is now nineteen and who I used to bath when she was younger I found it cring worthy.
and this is my 5000 post.:shocked:

It was cringe worthy, but that was all...just old fashions bawdy humour.

Congrats. :xyxwave:

[Seraphim]

And Dappy went on and on about his schlong and beguiled us with the usual sexual chat.

But he's talking about himself to his mates, Luisa (who's obviously fine with it as long as it's a joke) and the camera.. That (to me) is fine.

[joeysteele]

Well I just found all of it funny,including the comment of the title of this thread,It was clearly a joke to me and I saw it as nothing else.

I guess Jim cannot now still be termed the grumpy old one, not joining in with everything,despite knowing what life in the BB house would be like as was the case before.
So now he is cracking jokes and far more relaxed,(and his jokes are and have always been in his career rather close to the edge),he shouldn't be saying and doing some things to those younger housemates, yet all there is are in fact these much younger people left with him.

Odd how Lionel can say to a young woman, ''suck .. ....'' and that was fine,(by the way I found that funny too,again taking it as a joke).
However Jim has to watch everything he says.
Talk about double standards.

[Kazanne]

Well I just found all of it funny,including the comment of the title of this thread,It was clearly a joke to me and I saw it as nothing else.

I guess Jim cannot now still be termed the grumpy old one, not joining in with everything,despite knowing what life in the BB house would be like as was the case before.
So now he is cracking jokes and far more relaxed,(and his jokes are and have always been in his career rather close to the edge),he shouldn't be saying and doing some things to those younger housemates, yet all the is are are these much younger people left with him.

Odd how Lionel can say to a young woman, ''suck .. ....'' and that was fine,(by the way I found that funny too,again taking it as a joke).
However Jim has to watch everything he says.
Talk about double standards.

Another really good point Joey and some of those young ones and BB themselves say far worse than him,the hypoicrisy is blinding:hugesmile:

[Robodog]

Another really good point Joey and some of those young ones and BB themselves say far worse than him,the hypoicrisy is blinding:hugesmile:

Totally true. Even the panelists on BOTP have said far more negative, judgmental and generalised things than Jim has all series !

[Vanessa]

Well I just found all of it funny,including the comment of the title of this thread,It was clearly a joke to me and I saw it as nothing else.

I guess Jim cannot now still be termed the grumpy old one, not joining in with everything,despite knowing what life in the BB house would be like as was the case before.
So now he is cracking jokes and far more relaxed,(and his jokes are and have always been in his career rather close to the edge),he shouldn't be saying and doing some things to those younger housemates, yet all there is are in fact these much younger people left with him.

Odd how Lionel can say to a young woman, ''suck .. ....'' and that was fine,(by the way I found that funny too,again taking it as a joke).
However Jim has to watch everything he says.
Talk about double standards.

That is a very good point.

[GiRTh]

Well I just found all of it funny,including the comment of the title of this thread,It was clearly a joke to me and I saw it as nothing else.

I guess Jim cannot now still be termed the grumpy old one, not joining in with everything,despite knowing what life in the BB house would be like as was the case before.
So now he is cracking jokes and far more relaxed,(and his jokes are and have always been in his career rather close to the edge),he shouldn't be saying and doing some things to those younger housemates, yet all there is are in fact these much younger people left with him.

Odd how Lionel can say to a young woman, ''suck .. ....'' and that was fine,(by the way I found that funny too,again taking it as a joke).
However Jim has to watch everything he says.
Talk about double standards.:worship:

[Heaven = Winner]

And Dappy went on and on about his schlong and beguiled us with the usual sexual chat.

That's why I don't really want him to win either http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/smilies/hehe.png

[Seraphim]

Odd how Lionel can say to a young woman, ''suck .. ....'' and that was fine,(by the way I found that funny too,again taking it as a joke).

That was in the specific context of a sexual role play which Jasmine was very comfortable to participate in, and which was specifically supposed to be funny - and it was. If Lionel had kept cuddling someone in the guise of comfort, and making comments like Jim's I'd feel exactly the same.

[Verbal]

Jim has been my favourite to win this, but this and other comments he has made the last few days towards the girls have made me wretch a bit and have blown it for him I think. They're very creepy. Although i'm sure he doesnt intend for them to come acros like that.

The only ones I would absolutely hate to see win are Ollie or Sam, I can't stand either of them.

I would like to see Casey win it either her or Dappy.

[joeysteele]

That was in the specific context of a sexual role play which Jasmine was very comfortable to participate in, and which was specifically supposed to be funny - and it was. If Lionel had kept cuddling someone in the guise of comfort, and making comments like Jim's I'd feel exactly the same.

Sorry but with respect I don't get that at all.
Both comments were not scripted ones no matter as to a task or general conversation.
I actually think even BB would have never expected Lionel to come out with that,as funny as it was.

[Verbal]

Well I just found all of it funny,including the comment of the title of this thread,It was clearly a joke to me and I saw it as nothing else.

I guess Jim cannot now still be termed the grumpy old one, not joining in with everything,despite knowing what life in the BB house would be like as was the case before.
So now he is cracking jokes and far more relaxed,(and his jokes are and have always been in his career rather close to the edge),he shouldn't be saying and doing some things to those younger housemates, yet all there is are in fact these much younger people left with him.

Odd how Lionel can say to a young woman, ''suck .. ....'' and that was fine,(by the way I found that funny too,again taking it as a joke).
However Jim has to watch everything he says.
Talk about double standards.

Lionel has a very non sexual image, is slightly camp and can get away with things like that.

Jim has the exact opposite image and when he says things like that it just makes him sound like a creepy uncle perving on his nieces. One minute he is trying to come across as a father figure, next he's leching over her. It doesn't sit right with me.

Its like a gay man calling his female friend a bitch, he would get away with it and it would be taken as a joke and funny, a straight man who is not camp in the slightest couldn't get away with it.

[Kazanne]

Sorry but with respect I don't get that at all.
Both comments were not scripted ones no matter as to a task or general conversation.
I actually think even BB would have never expected Lionel to come out with that,as funny as it was.

I agree Joey,Lionel was loving every minute of that, it wasn't scripted ,HE chose to say Suck my ****,also he asked where his bitches were,and yes it was funny as is Jim

[Amy Jade]

I found him really creepy again tonight, it was hard to watch him with Casey :umm2:

[Kazanne]

Lionel has a very non sexual image, is slightly camp and can get away with things like that.

Jim has the exact opposite image and when he says things like that it just makes him sound like a creepy uncle perving on his nieces. One minute he is trying to come across as a father figure, next he's leching over her. It doesn't sit right with me.

Its like a gay man calling his female friend a bitch, he would get away with it and it would be taken as a joke and funny, a straight man who is not camp in the slightest couldn't get away with it.

Hello Verbal,nice to see you,as you can see I don't think Jims a letch at all,why would he be ,he has a lovely family ,I just think its unfair to think he shouldnt say things as a joke but Lionel can

[Verbal]

Hello Verbal,nice to see you,as you can see I don't think Jims a letch at all,why would he be ,he has a lovely family ,I just think its unfair to think he shouldnt say things as a joke but Lionel can

Because Lionel is camp and can say these type of things in a way that seems non threatening. How can a grown man (Jim) be one minute trying to come across as a father figure then the next making lewd comments at her? When he made the if you were my daughter comment I was like, did he just say that? Wrong Wrong Wrong

[Vanessa]

Because Lionel is camp and can say these type of things in a way that seems non threatening. How can a grown man (Jim) be one minute trying to come across as a father figure then the next making lewd comments at her? When he made the if you were my daughter comment I was like, did he just say that? Wrong Wrong Wrong

Those double standards are wrong for me.

[joeysteele]

Every single one of them is talking about sex,they are near obsessed as to it and they all make comments as to each others endowments consistently.

If they didn't approve of it, they would have no problem at all in saying so and oddly enough none of them and especially Casey have pulled Jim up on a single joke he has made as to the content of this thread and other jokes too.

Surprising that. I guess then they can see and take a joke and that is really great to see from 'all' of them and not just as to Jim.

Casey jokingly said she would have an affair with Jim, he is married man with a family, over twice her age, again that was a joke, is that okay for her to say.
It is for me for her to say that as a joke just as I find most of what Jim says to Casey the same, banter and jokes,pure and simple.

[Arrow]

Because Lionel is camp and can say these type of things in a way that seems non threatening. How can a grown man (Jim) be one minute trying to come across as a father figure then the next making lewd comments at her? When he made the if you were my daughter comment I was like, did he just say that? Wrong Wrong Wrong


She gets her tits out for a living im sure she in fine with jim remarks

[Verbal]

Every single one of them is talking about sex,they are near obsessed as to it and they all make comments as to each others endowments consistently.

If they didn't approve of it, they would have no problem at all in saying so and oddly enough none of them and especially Casey have pulled Jim up on a single joke he has made as to the content of this thread and other jokes too.

Surprising that. I guess then they can see and take a joke and that is really great to see from 'all' of them and not just as to Jim.

Casey jokingly said she would have an affair with Jim, he is married man with a family, over twice her age, again that was a joke, is that okay for her to say.
It is for me for her to say that as a joke just as I find most of what Jim says to Casey the same, banter and jokes,pure and simple.

I warmed to him when he was coming across as the father figure, even Casey's mother commented on it. You can't do that and be making sexual comments the next. You just don't.

[Benjamin]

This thread has 18 pages :joker:

[Verbal]

She gets her tits out for a living im sure she in fine with jim remarks

Nice generalisation there, i'm not suggesting she is disturbed by them. I'm saying that I am as i'm sure many others are.

[Amy Jade]

Because Lionel is camp and can say these type of things in a way that seems non threatening. How can a grown man (Jim) be one minute trying to come across as a father figure then the next making lewd comments at her? When he made the if you were my daughter comment I was like, did he just say that? Wrong Wrong Wrong
Great points, I agree with the last part a lot - it's coming across really creepy to me. He plays the farther figure one minute and then the sexual stuff comes out and it doesn't sit well with me.

[Vanessa]

I warmed to him when he was coming across as the father figure, even Casey's mother commented on it. You can't do that and be making sexual comments the next. You just don't.

he's not her father. he's just a friend.

[Mystic Mock]

Well I just found all of it funny,including the comment of the title of this thread,It was clearly a joke to me and I saw it as nothing else.

I guess Jim cannot now still be termed the grumpy old one, not joining in with everything,despite knowing what life in the BB house would be like as was the case before.
So now he is cracking jokes and far more relaxed,(and his jokes are and have always been in his career rather close to the edge),he shouldn't be saying and doing some things to those younger housemates, yet all there is are in fact these much younger people left with him.

Odd how Lionel can say to a young woman, ''suck .. ....'' and that was fine,(by the way I found that funny too,again taking it as a joke).
However Jim has to watch everything he says.
Talk about double standards.

That was apart of a task though Joey, and Lionel wasn't bringing his Daughter into it and didn't act all jealous when Jasmine was hooking up with Lee.

Jim needs to be careful as tomorrow is the most important day for voting and if he makes anymore dodgy comments he will leave it open for the dreadful Ollie to snatch the crown.

[abhorson]

But he's young, so it's alright.

It's amazing that those who dislike Jim dislike him because they think he's all the "ist's, ism's and phobic's" in the world, but they are ageist towards him. :joker:

So true.:thumbs:

[Verbal]

he's not her father. he's just a friend.

Oh ok thanks for clearing that up.

I said father figure, which as a man that is more in her actual fathers age bracket than hers is exactly what he is, and he should not be making these types of comments.

[Kazanne]

Because Lionel is camp and can say these type of things in a way that seems non threatening. How can a grown man (Jim) be one minute trying to come across as a father figure then the next making lewd comments at her? When he made the if you were my daughter comment I was like, did he just say that? Wrong Wrong Wrong

No no no Verbal,sorry that is totally unfair,so if Jim was camp he would be excused ,this has been done to death now,some didn't mind it ,some did,and never the twain shall meet:hugesmile:

[joeysteele]

That was apart of a task though Joey, and Lionel wasn't bringing his Daughter into it and didn't act all jealous when Jasmine was hooking up with Lee.

Jim needs to be careful as tomorrow is the most important day for voting and if he makes anymore dodgy comments he will leave it open for the dreadful Ollie to snatch the crown.

It wasn't in any way a scripted part of the task Mock, it came straight from Lionel himself. Lionel didn't have to say it.
Task or not, what is the difference?
Lionel is even 2 decades older than Jim.

Both I found funny as I said,however if I was finding one funny and the other not then I would be saying I was guilty of double standards myself.

[CaudleHalbard]

Let's all get a life, shall we? :D

Jim wanted to make Casey laugh to cheer her up. She did laugh.

End of story.

[abhorson]

TBH, i think this CBB will get a totally new generation of fans to this type of humour that will will say FU to all these PC types. And rightly so. A joke is a joke.

[Vanessa]

Oh ok thanks for clearing that up.

I said father figure, which as a man that is more in her actual fathers age bracket than hers is exactly what he is, and he should not be making these types of comments.

if she had a problem with it she would have told him.

[Robodog]

TBH, i think this CBB will get a totally new generation of fans to this type of humour that will will say FU to all these PC types. And rightly so. A joke is a joke.

Agreed!

People are getting sick of being told what they can and cannot laugh at - especially by people with no sense of humour.

[joeysteele]

Oh ok thanks for clearing that up.

I said father figure, which as a man that is more in her actual fathers age bracket than hers is exactly what he is, and he should not be making these types of comments.

He's just looking out for her,nothing in my view is meant badly from what he says to her and I am certain and would dare bet on it that Casey doesn't see it as anything other than joking either.

[joeysteele]

if she had a problem with it she would have told him.

Exactly, hallelujah.

[Mystic Mock]

I was just thinking that when Jim comes out every parent would have to lock up their Daughters.:joker:

[Verbal]

No no no Verbal,sorry that is totally unfair,so if Jim was camp he would be excused ,this has been done to death now,some didn't mind it ,some did,and never the twain shall meet:hugesmile:

Its the way they say it! Some men can get away with saying sexual, cheeky things to women and its funny and light hearted. My perception of Jim's comments were that they were creepy and sordid. Again, i'm sure that was not his intention, but the way I know him through years of seeing him do stand up and various shows, being cheeky and light hearted about sexual issues is not his forte.

[Mystic Mock]

It wasn't in any way a scripted part of the task Mock, it came straight from Lionel himself. Lionel didn't have to say it.
Task or not, what is the difference?
Lionel is even 2 decades older than Jim.

Both I found funny as I said,however if I was finding one funny and the other not then I would be saying I was guilty of double standards myself.

But Lionel didn't treat Jasmine like his Daughter, and he never exactly perved over Jasmine like Jim does with Casey, also what's disturbing with Jim is that he did put himself in the incest scenario which imo is quite disturbing if I'm being honest.

And I feel if anybody else had have said and done the exact same things that Jim has been doing lately nobody would be defending them, especially Lionel who had people giving him stick at the best of times.

[Verbal]

Its all perception

If this man said to you oh nice tits and winked at you, you would just laugh http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/08/article-1261400-00CFC89900000190-154_306x402.jpg

If this man said to you oh nice tits, you would probably punch him and call the police

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/Edarem.jpg

Jim can't get away with it without it seeming sordid.

[Mystic Mock]

]Let's all get a life, shall we?[/B] :D

Jim wanted to make Casey laugh to cheer her up. She did laugh.

End of story.

Well I could've said that when Jim fans couldn't handle Luisa arguing on Saint Jim (as yes his being treated like a Saint again when his not) but nobody told Jim fans to get a life, and which one sounds worse to you out of the "get a life" moments? Obviously Jim if you're being fair.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Those double standards are wrong for me.

:joker: this is rich, I can't be the only one who finds this post hilarious.

[Z]

Let's all get a life, shall we? :D

Jim wanted to make Casey laugh to cheer her up. She did laugh.

End of story.

Close the thread, we have a winner!

[Seraphim]

Its all perception

If this man said to you oh nice tits and winked at you, you would just laugh


Maybe it's a generational thing. If any man (whatever age) said to me "Nice tits" I'd think he was a pillock and walk away. If I was holding a drink, I'd probably pour it on his head. I don't see anything funny about it. I enjoy a proper witty joke, but saying "nice tits" isn't funny. It's just pathetic.

[MTVN]

He is like the old fella down the pub who sits at the bar admiring the young barmaid's assets, nothing wrong with that

[Seraphim]

He is like the old fella down the pub who sits at the bar admiring the young barmaid's assets, nothing wrong with that

Hmm. It's fine if the barmaid couldn't hear, but if he said it to a barmaid in my bar, he'd be asked to leave. Luckily I don't have a bar or it would be empty, to judge by this thread. :laugh2:

[joeysteele]

Let's all get a life, shall we? :D

Jim wanted to make Casey laugh to cheer her up. She did laugh.

End of story.

From all on this thread you have said the least but really the most, really well said and put.

[mysteryx]

Jim tonight was awkward with casey i had to turn over when he called her over

[dwarling]

From all on this thread you have said the least but really the most, really well said and put.

Indeed'..:thumbs:

[Kazanne]

Jim tonight was awkward with casey i had to turn over when he called her over

it's all in the mind,CaudleHalbard said it so very eloquently:hugesmile:

[Pincho Paxton]

If Casey was a cow I'd still be milking her... like this thread. :joker:

[abhorson]

it's all in the mind,CaudleHalbard said it so very eloquently:hugesmile:

Goota scroll back.

[Kazanne]

Goota scroll back.


CaudleHalbards post
Let's all get a life, shall we?

Jim wanted to make Casey laugh to cheer her up. She did laugh.

End of story.

[abhorson]

it's all in the mind,CaudleHalbard said it so very eloquently:hugesmile:

Seen it. The truth yes.

[Robodog]

CaudleHalbards post
Let's all get a life, shall we?

Jim wanted to make Casey laugh to cheer her up. She did laugh.

End of story.

Yep.

Can't put it better than that.

Case closed!

[Kizzy]

Jims a creep...... close the thread.
19 pages of debate about mr inappropriate? :laugh2:

[jet]

Some people will never admit that Jim has even one fault. I'm so glad I removed myself from this madness until the end of the show. I have not been posting, but I’ve been reading, and amazingly, Jim Davidson to them is like some kind of divine being who can do absolutely NOTHING wrong.
His perving on Casey is as plain as the nose on your face, yet people insist it is all a prolonged JOKE.

Sunday's show

Jim is giving Casey advice in the tree house

Jim to Casey : "Otherwise, you'd have never got them knobs out in the f@cking Daily Star in the first place."

Same conversation in the treehouse when Casey leans over to hug him
Jim to Casey : "excuse me while I unzip..."


Saturday's Show

Jim is playing doctor with his clipboard. Sitting in the tree house with Casey.

Jim : "Friends with benefits, what's that mean?"
Casey : "Oh, that was a just a joke"
Jim : "It means you can give your friend a Blow Job... we're friends?"

Last night:
Casey to Jim: My mum said thank you for looking after my daughter.
Jim: Does that mean we can have sex?

Jim to Casey: If you were my daughter I’d still be bathing you.
(Note how she laughed then her face instantly changed to a worried expression)

Tonight:
The muscle comment; talking to her about bra sizes; saying to her he was staring at her bum for too long; demanding she sit beside him AGAIN even though she obviously didn’t want to.

Apparently, all of those comments- every last one - are JOKES - He’s a barrel of laughs, is our Jim.
This is the man who apparently suffered torment for being questioned in the Saville enquiry. So he goes into the CBB house and makes lewd comments to a girl young enough to be his grand daughter - Made in the guise of a fatherly figure. How's that for arrogance?
Everyone talks about how he is ‘old school’. Bull****. As if granddads regularly talk to young girls in a lewd way….

His 5th wife must be so proud...
Unbelievable that so many people think these comments are appropriate rather than say Jim is doing anything wrong...

[Alf]

This thread needs a song to celebrate it's longevity

Classic Bob Dylan

1XSvsFgvWr0

[Arrow]

young enough to be his gran daughter really?


She is 29 he is 60

I think jim could pull her on the outside

[Seraphim]

This thread needs a song to celebrate it's longevity

Classic Bob Dylan



:)

[Seraphim]

young enough to be his gran daughter really?


She is 29 he is 60

I think jim could pull her on the outside

He'd certainly like to, judging by the look on his face when she said who she wanted to snog and marry. I think she only said she'd have an affair with him to placate him.

[Marsh.]

Casey was laughing. Thank god she has a sense of humour and does not take Jim literally.

I don't think her brain got as far as to process the literal implication of the joke. :joker:

[Ammi]

..this thread is still happening..?...:laugh:...


...I just can't understand the level of 'hate'..(or love) for Jim over his comment...Jim has always had a questionable sense of humour..his comedy was never 'mainstream' that's one of the reasons that he's still quite controversial..it's annoying when people sometimes say that his humour is 'typical' of his time and acceptable because that's like saying someone like Frankie Boyle is typical of his time now...when they both just have a particular type of comedy that either people love or hate/they're a bit marmite...so no, Jim wasn't typical of his time, and there shouldn't be any judgements cast on people who don't find him funny anymore than there should be on people who do..anyway, it's equally annoying when everything he says is taken as something sinister or some kind of hidden intent in it...haha, so that's the real Jim Davidson..well, no it isn't..for me, he's someone who has both showed a paternal side with the young people and also an appreciative acknowledgement of the young females, omg, he's multi faceted then..:amazed:...he's also a bit of an idiot sometimes...

..as a comedian, he's very much going to split opinions and has a questionable sense of humour..as a man/a human being, I think he's very flawed but hopefully learning (is a work in progress, as we all are..)..as a housemate, he's been one of the best gameplayers and created some of the biggest discussions in this series...Jim for the win/Luisa for the win, either one would be worthy so I really don't care..(actually I'd like Luisa to win..:laugh:..)...


...anyway, if people think he's always in the right/always been in the right/every action in the house has been justified...really, there is such a human being in existence..?...I'm not sure that I understand the devoted 'hate' either ..I would be a bit worried about my 'inner Linda' there...


..anyway, he made a dumb comment, dumb really because of the recent investigations etc...it was a joke, a very questionable joke, all it 'proves' is that his humour hasn't changed much so I won't be booking any seats to see him any time soon...

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Some people will never admit that Jim has even one fault. I'm so glad I removed myself from this madness until the end of the show. I have not been posting, but I’ve been reading, and amazingly, Jim Davidson to them is like some kind of divine being who can do absolutely NOTHING wrong.
His perving on Casey is as plain as the nose on your face, yet people insist it is all a prolonged JOKE.

Sunday's show

Jim is giving Casey advice in the tree house

Jim to Casey : "Otherwise, you'd have never got them knobs out in the f@cking Daily Star in the first place."

Same conversation in the treehouse when Casey leans over to hug him
Jim to Casey : "excuse me while I unzip..."


Saturday's Show

Jim is playing doctor with his clipboard. Sitting in the tree house with Casey.

Jim : "Friends with benefits, what's that mean?"
Casey : "Oh, that was a just a joke"
Jim : "It means you can give your friend a Blow Job... we're friends?"

Last night:
Casey to Jim: My mum said thank you for looking after my daughter.
Jim: Does that mean we can have sex?

Jim to Casey: If you were my daughter I’d still be bathing you.
(Note how she laughed then her face instantly changed to a worried expression)

Tonight:
The muscle comment; talking to her about bra sizes; saying to her he was staring at her bum for too long; demanding she sit beside him AGAIN even though she obviously didn’t want to.

Apparently, all of those comments- every last one - are JOKES - He’s a barrel of laughs, is our Jim.
This is the man who apparently suffered torment for being questioned in the Saville enquiry. So he goes into the CBB house and makes lewd comments to a girl young enough to be his grand daughter - Made in the guise of a fatherly figure. How's that for arrogance?
Everyone talks about how he is ‘old school’. Bull****. As if granddads regularly talk to young girls in a lewd way….

His 5th wife must be so proud...
Unbelievable that so many people think these comments are appropriate rather than say Jim is doing anything wrong...
Great post Jet whole heartily agree with you, the guy makes my skin crawl I can't get my head around why so many people like him, & how he's favourite to win it's beyond me.

[lostalex]

wait, so did he actually molest his daughter or what? i'm confused...

[Ammi]

..making questionable jokes does not make anyone a paedophile/pervert/dirty old man or whatever..neither does it make him anything admirable..I don't think there is anything to 'get' other than that he's been a key housemate this year and a good gameplayer..people either like his game or they don't which is the same as all housemates and it's really that simple....

[Ammi]

wait, so did he actually molest his daughter or what? i'm confused...

..no, Alex, he didn't....

[Cherie]

wait, so did he actually molest his daughter or what? i'm confused...

anyone would think she was his daughter instead of a 29 year old who can clearly handle herself, anyone recall Sams secret mission when Jasmine got the wrong end of the stick, Casey was hardly meek and mild.

oh and I see Jet has landed again :D:

[Cherie]

..making questionable jokes does not make anyone a paedophile/pervert/dirty old man or whatever..neither does it make him anything admirable..I don't think there is anything to 'get' other than that he's been a key housemate this year and a good gameplayer..people either like his game or they don't which is the same as all housemates and it's really that simple....

Nicely put Ammi, and as I said before if there was any suggestion of inappropriate behaviour from Jim, Linda would have shouted it from the rooftops when she got out.

[Cherie]

If Casey was a cow I'd still be milking her... like this thread. :joker:

:laugh2: one of your best Pincho.

[Amy Jade]

:joker: this is rich, I can't be the only one who finds this post hilarious.

:laugh2:

[Z]

..this thread is still happening..?...:laugh:...


...I just can't understand the level of 'hate'..(or love) for Jim over his comment...Jim has always had a questionable sense of humour..his comedy was never 'mainstream' that's one of the reasons that he's still quite controversial..it's annoying when people sometimes say that his humour is 'typical' of his time and acceptable because that's like saying someone like Frankie Boyle is typical of his time now...when they both just have a particular type of comedy that either people love or hate/they're a bit marmite...so no, Jim wasn't typical of his time, and there shouldn't be any judgements cast on people who don't find him funny anymore than there should be on people who do..anyway, it's equally annoying when everything he says is taken as something sinister or some kind of hidden intent in it...haha, so that's the real Jim Davidson..well, no it isn't..for me, he's someone who has both showed a paternal side with the young people and also an appreciative acknowledgement of the young females, omg, he's multi faceted then..:amazed:...he's also a bit of an idiot sometimes...

..as a comedian, he's very much going to split opinions and has a questionable sense of humour..as a man/a human being, I think he's very flawed but hopefully learning (is a work in progress, as we all are..)..as a housemate, he's been one of the best gameplayers and created some of the biggest discussions in this series...Jim for the win/Luisa for the win, either one would be worthy so I really don't care..(actually I'd like Luisa to win..:laugh:..)...


...anyway, if people think he's always in the right/always been in the right/every action in the house has been justified...really, there is such a human being in existence..?...I'm not sure that I understand the devoted 'hate' either ..I would be a bit worried about my 'inner Linda' there...


..anyway, he made a dumb comment, dumb really because of the recent investigations etc...it was a joke, a very questionable joke, all it 'proves' is that his humour hasn't changed much so I won't be booking any seats to see him any time soon...

Fantastic post Ammi

[Gusto Brunt]

I have to say I've found Jim's behaviour toward Casey a bit worrying. He always hugs her and says can we have sex now.

Joking but he says it too much. I think if it had been anywhere else outside the CBB house, then Casey would be right to feel a little bit nervous.

His bathing his own daughter 'joke' was a bit creepy too. :eek:

[Z]

I took his comments to cheer her up as just being inappropriate in order to make her laugh, not because he has any intentions towards her. He's married and has kids her age! It's the exact same as making a "pull my finger" fart joke IMO. My dad was cracking inappropriate jokes at my granny's funeral to make me laugh so I wouldn't cry... it's how a lot of people deal with grief.

[Robodog]

I took his comments to cheer her up as just being inappropriate in order to make her laugh, not because he has any intentions towards her. He's married and has kids her age! It's the exact same as making a "pull my finger" fart joke IMO. My dad was cracking inappropriate jokes at my granny's funeral to make me laugh so I wouldn't cry... it's how a lot of people deal with grief.

Exactly !

Edgy humour in hard times is actually quite healing.

Loads of people do it and thank god they do as it gets you through the dark times.

Jim did it with Casey when she had a bad day and it worked ! She laughed ! Even her Mum likes Jim - and mums know the score.

So to everyone who doesn't like that type of humour or thinks it's inappropriate - so what? You don't have to like it!

Nor are other people wrong for liking it.

Each to their own.

[joeysteele]

I find it incredible one comment has made such a long and varied opinion thread, Mr Wong certainly got us talking to be fair to them and also to be fair it makes for some great reading too.

It is threads like these that make for really interesting interaction and reading,it also gives a clear insight to how something that is neither right or wrong can be blown up out of all likely proportion and then equally so defended by others to another extreme.

For me, all of it is joking, statements made by all housemates can be taken in part and listed as to them positively or negatively wherever anyone may stand as to their view/liking/disliking of a particular housemate.

I said earlier that Caudlehalbard had said the most in very few words as to this incident and I fully agree with what she said too.

I further however see nothing that indicates that Casey is uncomfortable around Jim, usually wherever he is or goes,it is Casey who joins where he is in the house.
I think Casey has to fight off the tears a lot, thay may be real tears to some or false to others, however I think it is something Jim has picked up on, so he attempts to comfort her,he does it in a way that brings in jokes,
Whether we like them or not the end result is that Casey starts smiling again or opens up to him.

To some thIS could be seen as me possibly building up, (Saint) Jim, to others they may see it in part or wholly the way I outlined above.
For me, it is just a fact, Jim jokes, his jokes were always made in all his career to get responses,.
It is however for Casey herself to say,that something is not an appropriate thing to say or that she doesn't like this or that, she has 'never' done so, in fact she has got closer to Jim all through the series and that for me,in itself, speaks volumes.

As to when Jim asked her to go and sit with him on the highlights last night,she did seem hesitant, she was however,I think, on the point of tears and he could see that.
When she went and sat with him, he was able to get her to open up, not with any 'odd' joke or comments but by talking to her,not 'at' her.

She certainly then didn't then look like someone who really hadn't wanted to sit with him,in fact it looked like her conversation with him could have gone on all night and she was okay again.
Great thread,really strong and good comments but again as caudlehalbard put it ''he made her laugh''.
Well that is no crime in my book.

[Cherie]

I have to say I've found Jim's behaviour toward Casey a bit worrying. He always hugs her and says can we have sex now.

Joking but he says it too much. I think if it had been anywhere else outside the CBB house, then Casey would be right to feel a little bit nervous.

His bathing his own daughter 'joke' was a bit creepy too. :eek:

You serious, he is joking, it is tongue in cheek, he is not expecting sex. Jeez :joker:

[Gusto Brunt]

You serious, he is joking, it is tongue in cheek, he is not expecting sex. Jeez :joker:

I know he's joking. And as you can see from my avatar I want him to win.

I'm just saying the bathing your own daughter and enjoying it, is a very creepy thing to say.

Despite it being a joke.

[Cherie]

I know he's joking. And as you can see from my avatar I want him to win.

I'm just saying the bathing your own daughter and enjoying it, is a very creepy thing to say.

Despite it being a joke.

oh agreed that joke is just horrendous.

[Niamh.]

I know he's joking. And as you can see from my avatar I want him to win.

I'm just saying the bathing your own daughter and enjoying it, is a very creepy thing to say.

Despite it being a joke.

It is refreshing for someone who's a fan of his to be that objective

[bez87]

Seriously tho Casey is hot, no matter how old you get it doesn't mean you don't see women in that way, i found it just funny, he just a dirty old man lol just like the rest of them lol he joking plus Jim's wife was pretty hot anyway.

Anyway the whole bathing thing was funny, she is clearly not his daughter it's just a crude joke which i found funny, i quess you have to understand his humour

[GiRTh]

I know he's joking. And as you can see from my avatar I want him to win.

I'm just saying the bathing your own daughter and enjoying it, is a very creepy thing to say.

Despite it being a joke.Agree. Even if she laughed its still an inappropriate joke.

[Ammi]

It is refreshing for someone who's a fan of his to be that objective

..x2..(and I hate doing a x something post..)..:laugh:...there wasn't really anything I could add though..Jim's humour has always been quite dubious and not just 'off his time/that time'...I guess you either like it or you don't and I don't and especially as it wasn't part of a performance/routine etc...



..more of a stupid old man than a dirty old man, I think...

[Gusto Brunt]

oh agreed that joke is just horrendous.

Yeah...

It is refreshing for someone who's a fan of his to be that objective


I always try to be objective. ;)

[Kazanne]

People will always be on different sides of the fence with Jim,all things aside,Jims been a good housemate I'de like him(or Dappy) to win

[Niamh.]

People will always be on different sides of the fence with Jim,all things aside,Jims been a good housemate I'de like him(or Dappy) to win

I dislike Jim, but I will agree he's been a good HM and certainly deserves to win over Ollie, Sam or Casey

[Robodog]

It wasn't inappropriate.

It was appropriate for the occasion.

It was meant for Casey on her bad day and she laughed.

Did she complain? No. She laughed.

No problem then.

If you don't like that type of humour then fair enough you don't have to like it.

Other people do including Casey and that's what matters.

[Ammi]

I dislike Jim, but I will agree he's been a good HM and certainly deserves to win over Ollie, Sam or Casey

..I think over Dappy as well, although he's really grown on me and I find myself smiling every time he's on the HL show, I still think for me, it's been more Luisa and Jim who have made the series in terms of discussions etc...Luisa being the nicer person of the two, of course...

[Niamh.]

..I think over Dappy as well, although he's really grown on me and I find myself smiling every time he's on the HL show, I still think for me, it's been more Luisa and Jim who have made the series in terms of discussions etc...Luisa being the nicer person of the two, of course...

Of course ;)

[Beso]

It's only humour, it doesn't make jim a bad person.

[Ammi]

It's only humour, it doesn't make jim a bad person.


..no, you're right it doesn't make him a bad person, but he has a very dubious humour which obviously hasn't changed much from what I can see..what's really annoying as a non Jim fan though, is often being referred to as a 'hater' because of not liking that humour and especially when it's in a 'real life situation' as opposed to as part of a stage routine etc...and 'humour' doesn't excuse all behaviour as being ok either...I have seen some moments with Jim where he's shown what seems like genuine warmth toward the younger housemates and I'm sure that what he said to Casey was somehow not meant as it came across, but it did come across as a very inappropriate thing to say and anyone commenting on that is justifies without it being assumed that they must 'hate' Jim or are being biased...I don't think I've ever hated a housemate and although I'm not a fan of Jim, he's definitely not my least favourite housemate of all time...

[Seraphim]

The reason this thread has generated so much controversy here and elsewhere is that Jim is taking Casey aside to offering comfort during vulnerable moments, then using that as an excuse to initiate physical contact and make graphically sexual remarks. She never reciprocates the banter, even though she participated in playful banter with Lee. At times she has looked uncomfortable with Jim's remarks.

Casey cannot really pull Jim up on his behaviour, because of her enormous gratitude for his support. Thus Jim has created a lot of good feeling from Casey, and she feels obliged to tolerate it. To do otherwise might seem petty or ungrateful. His grim expression when she didn't cite him as someone she'd snog or marry resulted in her adding that she'd have an affair with him - the only time she has ever indulged in any bantering comment.

When Jim told her to sit beside him the other night, she refused to do so twice before finally, reluctantly doing so. That kinda says to me that she didn't want to sit beside Jim. I wouldn't either.

I know all his fans say he is a product of his generation, but I have to disagree. I have never come across a man who spoke like that to a woman, unless it was part of playful banter, or he was involved in a physical relationship with her..

[Vanessa]

The reason this thread has generated so much controversy here and elsewhere is that Jim is taking Casey aside to offering comfort during vulnerable moments, then using that as an excuse to initiate physical contact and make graphically sexual remarks. She never reciprocates the banter, even though she participated in playful banter with Lee. At times she has looked uncomfortable with Jim's remarks.

Casey cannot really pull Jim up on his behaviour, because of her enormous gratitude for his support. Thus Jim has created a lot of good feeling from Casey, and she feels obliged to turn a blind eye, and tolerate it. His grim expression when she didn't cite him as someone she's snog or marry resulted in her adding that she'd have an affair with him - the only time she has ever indulged in any bantering comment.

When Jim told her to sit beside him the other night, she refused to do so twice before sitting down. Given that she started to talk about her feelings immediately, it kinda says to me that she didn't want to sit beside Jim. I wouldn't either.

I know all his fans say he is a product of his generation, but I have to disagree. I have never come across a man who spoke like that to a woman, unless it was part of playful banter, or he was involved in a physical relationship with her..

Then you really don't get his sense of humour. I've heard other comedians say much worse in their stand up routine.

[Seraphim]

Then you really don't get his sense of humour. I've heard other comedians say much worse in their stand up routine.

Saying something in a stand-up routine is entirely different to saying something to an actual person. It worries me that you aren't able to understand that concept, actually. It worries me that a lot of Jim's fans are not able to understand that concept.

[Vanessa]

Saying something in a stand-up routine is entirely different to saying something to an actual person. It worries me that you aren't able to understand that concept, actually. It worries me that a lot of Jim's fans are not able to understand that concept.

He was just joking. If Casey had taken offense she would have told him.