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Marsh.
12-11-2015, 04:27 PM
And they finally gave us an explanation for Gaga's wooden delivery and weird accent. :fan:

Cal.
12-11-2015, 05:59 PM
Amazing eppy yet again<3

The Countess being cruel<33

Shame they've ruined her and Liz's relationship as I loved it. Alex is a bore but yeah her lack of care for her daughter nnn.

Headie
12-11-2015, 06:36 PM
I love the two Swedish blonde girls <333

Marsh.
12-11-2015, 06:37 PM
I think Gaga's problem is actually over-enunciating. It makes some of her lines appear forced, other than that she's quite good.

Headie
12-11-2015, 06:48 PM
And they finally gave us an explanation for Gaga's wooden delivery and weird accent. :fan:

I think Gaga's problem is actually over-enunciating. It makes some of her lines appear forced, other than that she's quite good.

Gaga is an amazing actress #EndGagaHate2k15

Headie
12-11-2015, 06:53 PM
(ok, maybe not amazing but still quite good considering some of the poor "actors" we have hogging all the TV show roles out there atm)

Samm
12-11-2015, 07:40 PM
One of the best if not the best episode yet :love:

The murder house flashback at the start was amazing, I love the two swedish girls as well <3

Marsh.
12-11-2015, 08:01 PM
I can't tell whether it's Chloe Sevigny being completely dull or whether the character's crap. :think:

Marsh.
12-11-2015, 08:02 PM
(ok, maybe not amazing but still quite good considering some of the poor "actors" we have hogging all the TV show roles out there atm)

Oh yeah, I agree. Just think she keeps doing something weird with her voice. :suspect:

Tom4784
12-11-2015, 09:36 PM
I thought this was probably the worst episode so far.

Tristan's death was pointless and that made his whole storyline pointless in turn. The whole affair storyline felt like it came out of nowehere and the only reason it existed was to give him an exit. It was shoddy.

I think John's breakdown was rushed as well. It didn't feel like a natural part of his arc.

I do hope they do something with Will and Donovan soon as they're just there atm, Will's just a pitiful excuse for a plot device and Donovan's only purpose is to look pretty it seems.

I did like the whole Bartholomew storyline although I wish we didn't actually see him at the end, it was far creepier to imagine what he looked like then it was seeing him and I thought his POV scenes were very tense and effective, any future scenes he's in won't have the same effect now.

Marsh.
12-11-2015, 09:40 PM
I'm completely off with the whole vampire/undead/living/not dead etc etc thing this season. :laugh:

I thought Tristan was turned? So him being killed surprised me. Or is she able to take his immortality away from him? :think:

Tom4784
12-11-2015, 09:44 PM
I'm completely off with the whole vampire/undead/living/not dead etc etc thing this season. :laugh:

I thought Tristan was turned? So him being killed surprised me. Or is she able to take his immortality away from him? :think:

in AHS, Vampires don't age but they're can still be killed as easily as a normal human....I think.

Marsh.
12-11-2015, 09:45 PM
in AHS, Vampires don't age but they're can still be killed as easily as a normal human....I think.

Ah, right. So they're still "alive" really but just don't die naturally?

Marsh.
12-11-2015, 09:45 PM
I think Smithy told me this a few pages back but I completely forgot. :laugh:

lewis111
12-11-2015, 10:44 PM
I really liked the episode but I'm also confused on the whole who can die who can't who comes back to life who's a normal human thing now

Cal.
12-11-2015, 11:22 PM
Won't Tristian be a ghost now tho? So Gags has just taken away his option of ever leaving Liz

Tom4784
12-11-2015, 11:35 PM
I guess it depends on whether or not Vamps can become ghosts.

Jamesy
15-11-2015, 04:38 PM
Gaga's character has described the vampire thing as a 'virus' several times. So you're still alive and can die, but the 'virus' prevents ageing and gives you the need to feed on fresh blood in order to survive. Basically biological immortality with a vampire twist.

Didn't The Countess say a few episodes ago something along the lines of 'you will be immortal if you are careful'?

I kind of wish they kept more towards the traditional vampire themes, and made it darker a bit like True Blood.

Marsh.
15-11-2015, 04:40 PM
I'm glad they haven't gone down the True Blood route tbh.

Vampires are overused in film/TV so it's good they haven't done it strictly in a similar way as stuff like that.

Smithy
16-11-2015, 06:11 PM
in AHS, Vampires don't age but they're can still be killed as easily as a normal human....I think.

Ah, right. So they're still "alive" really but just don't die naturally?

My sig explains it but I was banned :hmph:


Anyway yeah I think they can come back as ghosts, looking at the preview for next weeks ep it looks like Tristan is in it at the beginning



I thought this weeks episode was great, gags looked amazing and it was nice to see her showing a different emotion aside from ruthless bitch :laugh: I really wanted Ramona to kill bartholemew though, it would have been great to see her have a meltdown, loved the MH connection too :flutter:

Marsh.
16-11-2015, 06:12 PM
Why were you banned Smithy?

Smithy
16-11-2015, 06:18 PM
:fan:

Smithy
17-11-2015, 11:45 AM
Ep 7 (tomorrow's) is called Flicker
Ep 8 is called The 10 Commandments Killer


Ep 9 - She Wants Revenge

Synopsis
Chapter 9 / Production #509 – “She Wants Revenge” (Airs December 9, 10:00pm e/p) – The Countess is reunited with her one true love. Donovan and Ramona take another stab at revenge. A careless decision lands Alex in hot water. Written by Brad Falchuk; directed by Michael Uppendahl.

Ep 10 - She GETS Revenge

Chapter 10 / Production #510 – “She Gets Revenge” (Airs December 16, 10:00pm e/p) – Alex enlists John's help in containing an outbreak. Donovan learns The Countess' true intentions. Liz and Iris plan to leave the hotel for good. Written by James Wong; directed by Bradley Buecker.

:amazed:

Marsh.
19-11-2015, 08:40 PM
I wonder what The Countess' true intentions are. :think:

Marsh.
19-11-2015, 08:40 PM
Just downloading episode 7.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
19-11-2015, 09:00 PM
today's ep was rly good

Smithy
19-11-2015, 09:02 PM
It was directed by Michael goi (he did ep 5) so I'm perchT, gonna watch in a sec

Samm
19-11-2015, 09:04 PM
ugh will drake needs to go gay again and gags back story was really good, I loved that we saw her play a different emotion finally

Cal.
19-11-2015, 09:05 PM
THAT EPISODE<3

Gags' backstory being explained, it's amazing<3

I'm glad they killed off Tristan. Finn's new character is far superior and has more potential.

Lmao @ John and Alex being bit parts in like a season about them.

Smithy
19-11-2015, 09:05 PM
I think there's a week (possibly two) break now bc of thanksgiving

Cal.
19-11-2015, 09:06 PM
NO</3

They cannot go on a break on an episode like that :nono:

Samm
19-11-2015, 09:36 PM
I think there's a week (possibly two) break now bc of thanksgiving

ew

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
19-11-2015, 09:49 PM
why did they cast finn as a new character tho idgi

Cal.
19-11-2015, 09:51 PM
why did they cast finn as a new character tho idgi

idk but the new ones better

they probs had nothing more to do with t'model character

Smithy
19-11-2015, 10:14 PM
If y'all remember just before she turned Tristan she was playing with his face and she said he reminded her of someone from long ago, so obv that's the only reason that she turned him


Really good ep tho, honestly this season is like, on par with asylum tbh :flutter:

Marsh.
19-11-2015, 10:18 PM
I was confused when I saw Finn playing another character but I assumed Tristan was one of his descendants? :shrug:

So they weren't related at all? Ok. :unsure: Just shows what a difference the actual character makes. Hated Dandy, hated Tristan, but didn't mind Wittrock's character in this episode.

Great seeing some acting range from Gaga, she played the character pre-vampire quite well tbh.

lostalex
19-11-2015, 10:52 PM
I found this episode very slow and a bit boring, but i love the new vampires the hollywood stars, that slow motion walk at the end of them going out into the world after feeding on the australian idiots being locked up for decades, so exciting. i really hope they kill the countess. i love them.

the final scene with the little vampire girl getting killed by the car was so predictable, i saw it coming a mile away (no pun intended) they really didn't do a good job on that.

Tom4784
20-11-2015, 01:15 AM
It was probably the best episode of the season so far tbh.

lostalex
20-11-2015, 02:10 AM
when the countess killed the gay ("i'm not gay") model dandy guy, basically she was killing him so he can be together with Liz forever, right? Anyone that gets killed in the hotel stays there forever. so she wasn't really killing him, she was just making him not a vampire anymore. But Liz can still be with him.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
20-11-2015, 04:31 AM
no she wasn't :unsure:

Marsh.
20-11-2015, 04:42 AM
The way Liz reacted to Tristan dying, it didn't seem like she was doing him a favour. :laugh:

The way she asked Liz to bury him made it sound like they'd never see each other again tbh.

Smithy
20-11-2015, 09:03 AM
It currently has a 100% rated fresh on Rotten Tomatos :clap1::clap1:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/american-horror-story/15534/e07/


Glad people finally realise Elizabeth is actually playing at being a countess and there's a reason she uses her cold monotonous voice all the time, she's been hurt so many times, she's shut down so it's all a big cover

Tom4784
20-11-2015, 11:06 AM
Tristan was the spitting image of the actor so she didn't kill him out of kindness, she killed him because he reminded her of how she believed the actors left her alone.

Cal.
20-11-2015, 11:27 AM
When is kween Emma Roberts gonna appear

Smithy
20-11-2015, 12:00 PM
Last 3 eps

Samm
20-11-2015, 12:42 PM
What's she playing?

Marsh.
20-11-2015, 01:04 PM
A sarcastic bitchy teenager probably.

Cal.
20-11-2015, 01:11 PM
A sarcastic bitchy teenager probably.

Legend !

Cal.
20-11-2015, 01:14 PM
Last 3 eps

https://45.media.tumblr.com/a0a321aeda44895b50aba4ab3ef837f0/tumblr_nrw55kbe8S1shcemfo1_400.gif

EspeonBB
20-11-2015, 04:29 PM
Has it been confirmed
John is the 10 commandments killer?

Marsh.
20-11-2015, 04:31 PM
Has it been confirmed
John is the 10 commandments killer?

No. It's only confirmed when revealed in the show. Unless I've missed something?

Smithy
20-11-2015, 04:31 PM
Nope, the next episode is called The 10 Commandments Killer though, so we find out next time who it is

EspeonBB
20-11-2015, 04:45 PM
Oh OK
I thought the ending scene made it obvious that John was the 10 Commandment Killer. I still think it's him tbh

Also where is Sally :umm2:

Smithy
20-11-2015, 04:50 PM
She's in the next ep, i think we find out about her back story and her links with Mr March, idk if y'all remember but when she brought him that guy during devils night she said something about it meaning she was "sorted for another year"? something to that effect anyway

I think Sarah was busy was busy with American Crime Story which is why she hasn't been as heavily featured as she was previously

Samm
20-11-2015, 04:55 PM
Sarah's character is really **** this year, nothing wrong with her acting. It's just I think this is her worst character she has played on the show.

Headie
20-11-2015, 05:03 PM
Flicker was probably my favourite episode so of the season so far :love:

Tom4784
20-11-2015, 05:38 PM
Sarah's character is really **** this year, nothing wrong with her acting. It's just I think this is her worst character she has played on the show.

I love Sally, she just hasn't been given a lot to do yet.

Smithy
02-12-2015, 06:22 PM
Teasers for the next episode

The killer’s identity is revealed within the first 10 minutes.
Much of the episode unfolds in a flashback, revealing how the killer first came to the Hotel Cortez.
The killer has a secret trophy room and let’s just say it is not full of sportsmanship awards.
We learn where James March (Evan Peters) got his very specific accent.
A major character dies by the end of the episode.

I'm starting to think that Will might be the killer and that Ramona is gonna die

Will.
02-12-2015, 06:33 PM
Sounds interesting,

I'm going to start watching the season on TV now as the UK is 6 days behind, so episode 8 will air be airing next Tuesday evening.

This season is quite good, like it's developing a bit more than Freak Show.

Smithy
02-12-2015, 06:57 PM
The writers walk you through the backstory of how the Killer came to be, step by step, and suddenly, you realize what this whole show has been about since the very beginning. You were watching a deeply layered, master plot with a point--and had no idea while doing so.


I'm not ready

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vn-Ias2edPM/T2N-7yDgCbI/AAAAAAAACPw/oFKNz745ABA/s300/AlishaCry4.gif

Will.
02-12-2015, 06:58 PM
Omg it sounds amazing, not the biggest twist in television history.

Tom4784
02-12-2015, 07:08 PM
I doubt they'll ever beat THAT twist in Season 1 though, lbr.

Xtopher
03-12-2015, 04:57 AM
Jesus, that episode was boring as **** and the weakest twist I've seen from the show. Honestly you can see it miles away.

swinearefine
03-12-2015, 12:01 PM
Where the **** is Ramona Royale? Idgaf about most of the other nonsense going on this season, just show me Ramona stabbing babies and I'll be happy.

Xtopher
03-12-2015, 01:00 PM
Where the **** is Ramona Royale? Idgaf about most of the other nonsense going on this season, just show me Ramona stabbing babies and I'll be happy.

The trailer for next week showed a lot of her. Finally it'll get interesting.

Will.
03-12-2015, 04:21 PM
good episode, didn't expect it at all, very good!

Next week looks great.

Cal.
03-12-2015, 05:23 PM
Very good episode imo.

I'm hoping they start showing some of the neglected characters though, like Romona.

Tom4784
03-12-2015, 08:08 PM
The writers walk you through the backstory of how the Killer came to be, step by step, and suddenly, you realize what this whole show has been about since the very beginning. You were watching a deeply layered, master plot with a point--and had no idea while doing so.


https://38.media.tumblr.com/5af26cbe333012d4b66381bc1d87610e/tumblr_mv6d7fu9e41qe3dquo1_500.gif

EspeonBB
03-12-2015, 10:26 PM
It was a good episode even if the identity of the 10 commandment killer was obvious. The scenes with Evan with great :love: (I wanna know what's going on with Sally/The Addiction Demon tho)

Ia @ people begging for more Ramona Royale. She's been absent for five episodes out of eight now :fist:

Smithy
03-12-2015, 11:07 PM
I liked the Ep, but I get why some people found it boring cause they dislike Jon or whatever

The next couple of eps are gonna focus on Ramona/The Countess/Donovan I think :flutter: oh, and the kids virus outbreak too

Headie
03-12-2015, 11:08 PM
I found the whole episode confusing as hell :laugh:

Smithy
03-12-2015, 11:12 PM
The only bit I didn't get was the demon thing, does March control it? It sounded like if Sally did what he said the demon would rape other people as apposed to her? :worry:

Smithy
03-12-2015, 11:20 PM
Emma Roberts has confirmed she isn't returning this season btw, she's hoping to work with gags in AHS6 tho

Xtopher
03-12-2015, 11:22 PM
Thank god.

Samm
03-12-2015, 11:23 PM
Trash

Tom4784
03-12-2015, 11:38 PM
Them hyping up this predictable twist is giving me Ryan Murphy saying that 'Freakshow would be the scariest season yet' teas.

Worst episode of the series so far tbh. I like the focus on March and I liked the tidbits about Sally and her relationship with John but I found the rest of it quite dull and the twist was more convenient than believable.

Cal.
03-12-2015, 11:49 PM
Emma Roberts has confirmed she isn't returning this season btw, she's hoping to work with gags in AHS6 tho

This is honestly the worst news of the year</3

Amy Jade
03-12-2015, 11:53 PM
Lady Gaga needs to stop acting and get back to the music, she's out of her depth.

The scene when the steel wall is opened and she was meant to look scared she looks vacant, Kathy especially makes Gags look awful

reece(:
03-12-2015, 11:55 PM
Emma Roberts has confirmed she isn't returning this season btw, she's hoping to work with gags in AHS6 tho
Spilling she's leaving Scream Queens?:think:

Smithy
04-12-2015, 08:45 AM
No I don't think so, the show is definitely more of an ensemble cast now, Sarah has managed to juggle both AHS and ACS so I imagine Emma will be able to do the same with SC and AHS

Tom4784
04-12-2015, 10:24 AM
Scream Queens won't get a second season anyway, the ratings are bad and Fox are brutal when it comes to the axe.

Smithy
09-12-2015, 06:57 PM
American Horror Story exclusive: Sarah Paulson to reprise season one's Billie Dean Howard in Hotel finale

That means Paulson will be playing two different roles – Sally and Billie Dean – this season. Her costar, Finn Wittrock, has done something similar on Hotel, portraying both Tristan and Rudolph Valentino.

In the finale, we’ll learn that Billie Dean has her own reality series focusing on her psychic abilities and comes to the Cortez thinking it would be prime setting for an episode.


Perched

reece(:
09-12-2015, 07:06 PM
Billie Dean :love:

Cal.
09-12-2015, 07:07 PM
I like the sound of that:love:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
09-12-2015, 08:11 PM
i hope this season improves now that the 10ck stuff is out of the way ;_;

Samm
10-12-2015, 04:46 PM
Good Episode.

Like it more now that the 10ck stuff is over. All the storylines are interesting

Cal.
10-12-2015, 05:35 PM
Loved that episode:love:

Gags having like 68 lovers<3

Interested to see how the Romona being sealed inside that hallway is gonna work out.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
10-12-2015, 05:41 PM
why do they always reuse the same ideas tho ;_; like delphine being trapped in the coffin/the vamps being trapped in the hallway is essentially the same thing kmt

EspeonBB
10-12-2015, 08:59 PM
I loved the episode :love:

I'm glad Ramona is finally starting to get screentime but I hope this isn't the end for ha :worry:

Tom4784
10-12-2015, 10:45 PM
It was a much better episode than last week's.

So glad that they've killed the plot device off and I imagine that we'll continue to see Ramona as I think the Countess will use her to kill anyone she doesn't like. hopefully she'll put Donovan in there before long as he's insufferable. It's like his character's only motivation is to be petulant in every scene he's in.

Jake.
10-12-2015, 10:56 PM
great ep, finally hit why Gags goes for the same looking blokes as well

Smithy
10-12-2015, 10:59 PM
Good Ep, not just saying cause I'm a gags Stan but anything involving the countess is usually the best part of the episode, such an enigmatic character

Smithy
11-12-2015, 11:57 AM
Looks like Will's a ghost now

h1nIQfpOMnE

Firewire
14-12-2015, 11:00 PM
Apparently it's been cut to 12 episodes with the finale airing January 13. The 512 press release calls it the "season finale".

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
14-12-2015, 11:25 PM
am i the only one who thinks this season has been pretty dire and only marginally better than freakshow :c

Firewire
14-12-2015, 11:25 PM
ia

Will.
14-12-2015, 11:33 PM
I'd give it a 6.5 out of 10 so far.

It's been enjoyable but not incredible/amazing.

A good/interesting season.

Better than Freak Show.

Samm
14-12-2015, 11:40 PM
I'd give this season a 7.5 so far, I've enjoyed most of it.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
14-12-2015, 11:43 PM
4/10 imo

Tom4784
15-12-2015, 12:10 AM
It's way better than Coven and Freakshow but not as good as MH or Asylum.

Xtopher
17-12-2015, 02:08 PM
Hurry up Jan, I want to see the return of my Queenie.

Marsh.
17-12-2015, 02:48 PM
This season is reminding me a lot of Coven. So much potential with the characters and starting lots of interesting plot lines alongside each other that all have potential to be something great but none of them are going anywhere.

They're meandering around set pieces and gimmick cameos until the last episode when they'll try to cram in a bunch of half arsed conclusions.

Marsh.
17-12-2015, 03:02 PM
Virtually, the last thing he said to me was "I do" :laugh2:

Marsh.
17-12-2015, 03:22 PM
"I wanted it to be a beacon of hope for my three followers on Instagram"

:joker: Iris and Elizabeth Taylor are the best parts of this season.

Marsh.
17-12-2015, 03:29 PM
The ending. :laugh2:

Cal.
17-12-2015, 04:41 PM
What @ that episode.

Okay so

They killed off Valentino and that gal and now they've killed off The Countess and Donovan? SCREAMING at the actual ending tho with Liz and Iris storming in to Hotline Bling and shooting them both.

I don't really know what to think or where this season is going next.

Tom4784
17-12-2015, 04:59 PM
That ending was everything.

Will.
17-12-2015, 05:43 PM
The best ending ever :joker:

Will.
17-12-2015, 05:48 PM
8Sgx6m3kh84

Headie
17-12-2015, 06:34 PM
The return of Queenie/Gabby Sidibe <333

So did Ramona eat the vampire kids then? Is that even possible or can vampires still feed off other vampires blood?

Samm
17-12-2015, 07:28 PM
The ending <3

8Sgx6m3kh84

Gabourey <3 but Jan 6th :(

Smithy
17-12-2015, 11:22 PM
"I wanted it to be a beacon of hope for my three followers on Instagram"

:joker: Iris and Elizabeth Taylor are the best parts of this season.

I was screaming at this :joker:

Really good Ep, i wonder if the countess is dead or not though, she's in the trailer for the next episode and I'm not sure if vampires can be ghosts seeing as Tristan never became one :think:

Tom4784
18-12-2015, 12:12 AM
I was screaming at this :joker:

Really good Ep, i wonder if the countess is dead or not though, she's in the trailer for the next episode and I'm not sure if vampires can be ghosts seeing as Tristan never became one :think:

I think she's dead but Queenie will be involved in bringing her back somehow.

Smithy
18-12-2015, 09:13 PM
Omg D'yall think it's actually queenie and not Gaby playing another character? :worry:

T*
22-12-2015, 11:41 PM
YES I'VE CAUGHT UP WITH USA FOR THE WINTER BREAK!!!
•I adore iris and liz
•Lady GaGa looks really pretty even whilst crying
•why @ the hotline bling bit
whoever's idea it was to have it as the guy (idk his name anymore) dancing and also soundtrack of iris and liz's shootout should be fired tbqh because honestly a different song would of made it so much intense and more iconic

Tom4784
23-12-2015, 01:39 AM
•why @ the hotline bling bit
whoever's idea it was to have it as the guy (idk his name anymore) dancing and also soundtrack of iris and liz's shootout should be fired tbqh because honestly a different song would of made it so much intense and more iconic

Bye, that ending was the best thing Ryan Murphy has ever done.

BBUKAUSFAN
23-12-2015, 03:00 AM
I was screaming at this :joker:

Really good Ep, i wonder if the countess is dead or not though, she's in the trailer for the next episode and I'm not sure if vampires can be ghosts seeing as Tristan never became one :think:

They only become ghosts if there is something stopping them from moving on into the afterlife, There was nothing holding Tristan back, but the guy gaga married came back and he was a vampire right?

T*
23-12-2015, 10:06 AM
Bye, that ending was the best thing Ryan Murphy has ever done.


drake ruining more things than Nicki's album??

Amy Jade
23-12-2015, 10:09 AM
Lady Gaga was amazing this week, I think her performance is very hit and miss but she sold it this week, very well acted.

I love hotline bling being played over the shoot out haha

Cal.
29-12-2015, 12:11 PM
Asylum>Murder House>Hotel>Coven>Freak Show

Xtopher
07-01-2016, 04:49 AM
Dear Ryan,



http://31.media.tumblr.com/08e926de7d350b050b47236fb0a2496f/tumblr_musjw9S6bF1qk08n1o1_500.gif

Smithy
07-01-2016, 11:12 AM
Poor Queenie :'(

Really good episode tho

Xtopher
07-01-2016, 03:29 PM
They should've brought back Zoe so her wicked snatch could die.

Smithy
07-01-2016, 03:39 PM
I just rewatched the trailer for this episode an realised there was no scene in the furnace nor with Liz rolling a body out, seems to be quite common for AHS to put scenes in their teasers but then not actually in the episode :laugh:

Will.
07-01-2016, 04:05 PM
Really good episode, next week is the finale!

NfBjqH5V6ys

Withano
07-01-2016, 05:08 PM
This was e only series i couldnt get in to. Did it get better?

Samm
07-01-2016, 05:22 PM
Queenie </33333 no :((((

Tom4784
08-01-2016, 12:31 PM
It was a pretty good episode, I'm intrigued to see what's going to happen next, everything was pretty much wrapped up in that episode.

Jake.
08-01-2016, 08:15 PM
Queenie </3 fantastic episode though

reece(:
08-01-2016, 08:22 PM
Tragic at Ryan killing off Queenie

Headie
09-01-2016, 03:34 PM
Ryan Murphy needs to turn on his location now

RIP Queenie </333

EspeonBB
09-01-2016, 03:35 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ptcKsSb.gif

:joker:

It was an good episode. Tragic @ Queenie dying though. I'm intrigued as to what's happening in the finale though (probably more John/Alex stuff)

Samm
09-01-2016, 04:51 PM
Is Jessica still coming back for the finale?

Will.
09-01-2016, 09:45 PM
are those 3 things Sarah said happening, where she said 2 were true and 1 was false?

Headie
09-01-2016, 10:11 PM
Last night’s episode of American Horror Story: Hotel was a wild ride. I’ve seen a lot of mixed reactions to the different things that happened, but Queenie’s death seems to have garnered the same reaction from virtually all fans: anger and disbelief. It’s an example of bad writing that feels like a slap in the face, and I’m going to break down why that is.

1. AHS is supposed to be an anthology series

An anthology series is a television show that features a different story with different characters in each episode or series. With American Horror Story, each season is focused on the story of a specific place and the characters that live there. The seasons are self-contained: you can pick up and watch Coven without having seen Murder House and Asylum. Ryan Murphy has stated that all the seasons are connected, and this has been demonstrated several times in Freakshow and Hotel. Up until last night there were several small nods to season one of AHS: Marcy’s cameo and her making reference to Hallie and the Harmons, Elizabeth going to the Murder House for an abortion, and Billie Dean Howard’s appearance next week. These are fine because Marcy and Billie Dean had minor roles in Murder House and you don’t need to know who they are to accept their appearances in Hotel. You can even watch this season without knowing about the murder house because there’s enough context given within the episode to figure out that illegal abortions are performed there. This isn’t the case with Queenie. If you haven’t seen Coven, you’re going to be lost: What’s a supreme? How does Liz know who this is? What coven is she talking about? The public doesn’t seem to know about vampires, so why do they know about witches? Why can’t Ramona hurt Queenie? An anthology series needs to be able to stand on its own, and Queenie’s inclusion doesn’t fit with that.

2. It goes against previously established characterizations

Queenie says she’s staying at the hotel because she’s going to appear on The Price is Right and she’s guaranteed to win because her Supreme enchanted her ticket. That Supreme is Cordelia Foxx, who we know is extremely dedicated to the coven and her girls. She exposed witches to the public not only to give young witches a safe haven, but also to inform the public as to what witches are and are not in an effort to clear their name. Why, then, would she do something so blatantly dishonest? Not only that, but Queenie is also part of her council; it’s unlikely Cordelia would send her away to cheat on The Price is Right when she has responsibilities at Miss Robichaux’s Academy.

3. It undermines her achievements and role in Coven

Queenie wasn’t a minor character in season 3, she was one of the main girls. We watched her struggle with her identity, overcome death several times, grow as a person and a witch, and take her position on the council as one of Cordelia’s most trusted witches. Having her die so unceremoniously in a season she didn’t even star in feels like a betrayal to all that. She survived the whole of season three only to be killed in five minutes in season five. It’s extremely poor writing and a terrible disservice to both her character and AHS fans.

4. It opens up too many plot holes

As stated, Queenie was an important part of the coven. She wasn’t only close to Cordelia, she was part of the council. Her disappearance won’t go unnoticed. Is Cordelia going to look for her or send someone when she doesn’t return? She was able to find Misty when Madison trapped her in the crypt, so it’s very likely she’ll know that Queenie was killed. Will she take action against the hotel? Cordelia takes pride in protecting her girls, so I find it hard to believe she wouldn’t organize some sort of retaliation. For that matter, is Queenie now a ghost in the hotel? She’s contacted the underworld before, will that make a difference in her circumstance? Would she be able to be brought back from the dead since she was killed by a vampire? With only one episode of Hotel left, it’s unlikely that these questions will be answered.

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Lostie!
09-01-2016, 10:47 PM
I think only #2 on that is actually much of an issue tbh (at least the way they've described it, I still need to catch up tbh).

BBJordan
09-01-2016, 11:34 PM
are those 3 things Sarah said happening, where she said 2 were true and 1 was false?

What things??

Smithy
11-01-2016, 08:07 AM
Lead actress for the season lady Gaga has won a Golden Globe for her outstanding performance in AHS Hotel :clap1:

Tom4784
11-01-2016, 12:48 PM
Got a feeling some money might have changed hands to make that happen. She's not a bad actress but she's not worthy of accolades.

Xtopher
11-01-2016, 05:22 PM
Got a feeling some money might have changed hands to make that happen. She's not a bad actress but she's not worthy of accolades.

Exactly. Kirsten was robbed. I got that feeling that everyone else wasn't amused by it too, which I totally get. I mean, she's good. Just not outstanding compared to the rest.

Cal.
11-01-2016, 05:23 PM
Slay Gags<3

Smithy
11-01-2016, 05:48 PM
Got a feeling some money might have changed hands to make that happen. She's not a bad actress but she's not worthy of accolades.

Exactly. Kirsten was robbed. I got that feeling that everyone else wasn't amused by it too, which I totally get. I mean, she's good. Just not outstanding compared to the rest.

I didn't watch the show or anything but I've heard that a few shows/actors were snubbed so it's no surprise, I highly doubt she paid for an award cause she's not that kind of person :shrug:

Tom4784
11-01-2016, 06:51 PM
I didn't watch the show or anything but I've heard that a few shows/actors were snubbed so it's no surprise, I highly doubt she paid for an award cause she's not that kind of person :shrug:

I don't think she would have paid for it but I think possibly someone involved with AHS was since it highlights AHS and the main selling point of this season.

I like the Countess and I think that Gaga plays the role well but I don't think her performance was award worthy and I don't think it would be considered a winning performance normally.

Brother Leon
11-01-2016, 07:25 PM
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:joker:

Smithy
11-01-2016, 07:29 PM
I don't think she would have paid for it but I think possibly someone involved with AHS was since it highlights AHS and the main selling point of this season.

I like the Countess and I think that Gaga plays the role well but I don't think her performance was award worthy and I don't think it would be considered a winning performance normally.

Surely they'd have paid for the show to win the nom it was up for then rather than ther? :laugh: itd keep people perched for next season regardless or not of if she was in it then

Tom4784
11-01-2016, 07:38 PM
Surely they'd have paid for the show to win the nom it was up for then rather than ther? :laugh: itd keep people perched for next season regardless or not of if she was in it then

I think they would stretching it if Hotel was nominated, never mind winning it. The critical reception to this series hasn't been great so it's probably more believable to have the show win an acting award (the fact that the recipient is also Lady Gaga is also a plus, notable award+notable winner=lots of promo plus it makes it more likely that she'll make another appearance in a future season)

Smithy
11-01-2016, 07:42 PM
I think they would stretching it if Hotel was nominated, never mind winning it. The critical reception to this series hasn't been great so it's probably more believable to have the show win an acting award (the fact that the recipient is also Lady Gaga is also a plus, notable award+notable winner=lots of promo plus it makes it more likely that she'll make another appearance in a future season)

It was nominated :laugh: in the "Best Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television" category, plus considering this season is the only season to have an episode which has a 100% rating on rotten tomato (for Flicker), it'd make more sense if (that episode was submitted; I'm not entirely sure if it works the same as other award shows where only certain eps are submitted for consideration) the show won

Fingers crossed this means gags will be back in future tho :hee:

Tom4784
11-01-2016, 07:52 PM
It was nominated :laugh: in the "Best Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television" category, plus considering this season is the only season to have an episode which has a 100% rating on rotten tomato (for Flicker), it'd make more sense if (that episode was submitted; I'm not entirely sure if it works the same as other award shows where only certain eps are submitted for consideration) the show won

Fingers crossed this means gags will be back in future tho :hee:

I think it's the Emmy's that nominate individual episodes, I think I remember them nominating Pepper's episode last year.

It would have never realistically beat Fargo or Wolf Hall and I think people would have called BS on it.

It's more believable for the show to get an acting award since actors can get nominated even if the film/TV show itself wasn't highly rated by critics (See: Meryl Strip in 'The Devil Wears Prada' or Johnny Depp in most of his films throughout the past 10 years).

T*
11-01-2016, 11:33 PM
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BBUKAUSFAN
14-01-2016, 09:35 AM
The final was weird and almost confusing with all these new elements they threw in it felt more like a mid season final with so much left unanswered.

Amy Jade
14-01-2016, 10:50 AM
Kristen Dunst was robbed, her performance in Fargo was faultless and while Gaga was good in the last 2 or 3 episodes of AHS she was awful in some episodes and really set the side down with amazing performances from those around her

Tom4784
14-01-2016, 03:16 PM
I thought it was a decent episode, it kind of had the same problems that all the other finales have in that it's less of an episode and more of a collection of epilogues. I could have done without all the John stuff, I thought they wrapped up his story well enough in the last episode and I didn't think we needed to repeat the Devil's Night dinner party.

I loved all the Liz Taylor stuff and the whole Sally on Instagram scenes was pretty hilarious too although it bothered me that we didn't actually get any clarification on that Demon thing (Demons to be the theme of Season 6?). It was annoying that we didn't get any kind of resolution to Ramona though, We got more closure for the Wu guy then we did for Ramona, I think Iris could have done with more closure too.

I thought it was a good season but not perfect, still better than FS and Coven though. I think next series they really need to go for a smaller cast, Will Drake and Donovan were kind of just there. Cameos and bit parts got more development then they did.

Hopefully the next series revolves around a smaller cast and a more focused story although I don't think that'll be the case since I think they'll go for a big crossover next series and have different surviving characters from each season play a role, I can see them basing the story around the devil kid from the first season.

Will.
14-01-2016, 04:35 PM
It was really good but like most finale's a tad disappointing.

Liz was an amazing character! I agree, Dezzy, John stuff wasn't necessary.

It has been a fantastic series, one of my favs! Sad it's ended now.

Cal.
14-01-2016, 05:47 PM
I loved that episode, this series has been good :love:

Sally with the iPhone lmao<3

Liz having a happy ending<3

I liked the John thing - it was nice seeing Billie Dean.

Marcie also with the erotica novels lmao.

Only qualm is that Ramona was left without a purpose</3

Xtopher
14-01-2016, 05:53 PM
I'm not one for happy endings but the episode was ok.

Smithy
14-01-2016, 07:37 PM
I thought it was a good Ep, everything was tied up pretty well aside from the demon thing, but I agree with Dezzy I think it'll be the theme for S6

Braden
14-01-2016, 07:48 PM
Is Hotel worth watching? I watched the first two episodes but had no passion to continue. I thought I'd wait till had finished to hear how it was generally received?

Tbh, I think American Horror Story is becoming a lead balloon, which is a shame.

Smithy
14-01-2016, 07:56 PM
Asylum > MH > Hotel > Coven > Freak Show (imo anyway)

Tom4784
15-01-2016, 12:46 AM
I think it's worth a watch if you liked the other seasons, it's WAY better than Coven and Freakshow.

Samm
15-01-2016, 02:01 AM
A cute ending, they wrapped it up quite well.

Sad Jessica didn't make an appearance

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
15-01-2016, 09:48 AM
that season was garbage

Firewire
16-01-2016, 07:59 PM
Season 6 will be “set in the present” with “echoes of the past” mixed in.

“It’s set in two time periods but principally in the present.”

A Coven tea?

Jake.
18-01-2016, 07:15 AM
when did Marcy die, that confused me

Tom4784
18-01-2016, 06:10 PM
when did Marcy die, that confused me

A few episodes back, the 1920's vampires killed her.

Firewire
18-01-2016, 08:40 PM
I liked the finale, lacklustre season overall but the finale was really good

Niamh.
06-04-2016, 12:46 PM
I tried watching the first episode of this and switched it off 3 quarters of the way through, it's just a load of gratuitous gore now, didn't hold my interest at all. It's lost that sinister build up that Murder House and Asylum had plus the storylines are so flimsy now, everything just revolves around "shocking" scenes

Jake.
06-04-2016, 07:39 PM
i thought it improved after the first episode

Smithy
06-04-2016, 07:42 PM
I think that's what a lot of people disliked about it too Niamh, but (iirc) aside from flashbacks with a serial killer there isn't that much more gore :think:

Marsh.
06-04-2016, 07:50 PM
Tbh, it's no different than the opening of Asylum which was gratuitous gore and sex.

I don't get how people say it's changed, it's been trashy horror from the start.

McDermott cry wanking after watching the maid play with herself anyone? :joker:
A woman having sex with a man in a gimp suit but having no idea that the dick she was riding wasn't her husband's? :hehe:

Jake.
06-04-2016, 08:55 PM
i loved the maid

Marsh.
06-04-2016, 08:55 PM
i loved the maid

I bet you did. :nono:

Niamh.
07-04-2016, 09:14 AM
Tbh, it's no different than the opening of Asylum which was gratuitous gore and sex.

I don't get how people say it's changed, it's been trashy horror from the start.

McDermott cry wanking after watching the maid play with herself anyone? :joker:
A woman having sex with a man in a gimp suit but having no idea that the dick she was riding wasn't her husband's? :hehe:

It just feels different, the whole atmosphere around it. I think they overloaded the cast as well trying to pull in as many big names as they could and then it's hard to warm to the characters as much because they're spread too thin

Will.
07-04-2016, 11:27 AM
Yeah I agree about it feeling different, I think that could be because there's no Jessica Lange.

Will.
07-04-2016, 11:29 AM
Omg not the cry walking, I saw that with my parents! :worry:

billy123
07-04-2016, 12:03 PM
I thought that it was a terrible series i was gutted by it. I love this show but i was really losing interest after a couple of episodes and found it a real chore to watch by the end.
The storyline was really lacking and the longer it went on the more irrelevant anything that happened seemed to the plot (there barely was one to start with). Viewing figures were abysmal and dropped off really badly after the premiere episode confirming how poor it was.

It is the curse of any successful American show that they end up dragging it out long after the ideas that made it great in the first place have dried out :(

There is a new series in the works i hope they can redeem themselves before it gets binned i hate watching shows go out with a whimper.

Niamh.
07-04-2016, 12:13 PM
Yeah I agree about it feeling different, I think that could be because there's no Jessica Lange.

nah, it started happening after Asylum but has gotten steadily worse with each season that followed......imo

Will.
07-04-2016, 12:23 PM
nah, it started happening after Asylum but has gotten steadily worse with each season that followed......imo

Hmm yeah I do agree, I always put Murder and Asylum together.

Marsh.
07-04-2016, 01:53 PM
It just feels different, the whole atmosphere around it. I think they overloaded the cast as well trying to pull in as many big names as they could and then it's hard to warm to the characters as much because they're spread too thin

Yeah, I agree, that's the show's biggest failing.

They're not crafting a story to tell within 13 episodes anymore. They just set a theme and try to cram as much in as possible without regard for pacing and plotting.

Niamh.
07-04-2016, 01:55 PM
Yeah, I agree, that's the show's biggest failing.

They're not crafting a story to tell within 13 episodes anymore. They just set a theme and try to cram as much in as possible without regard for pacing and plotting.

Yup, exactly.

Smithy
07-04-2016, 07:50 PM
A lot of rewrites happened from eps 7-8 onwards I think that's why this season got a big messy :worry:

Cal.
15-08-2016, 06:27 PM
Sarah Paulson gave an interview with two truths and a lie

1. Sally is actually a man.

2. The Hotel Cortez actually does not exist.

3. Sally is the daughter of Ms. Evers (the maid played by Mare)

:shocked:

Surely #2 is the lie?

These were all lies weren't they?

Smithy
15-08-2016, 06:30 PM
Well, possibly, but then again lots gets rewritten so who knows now :joker: