Pretty Little LiArs -

[Will.]

We dunno :shrug:

I definitely think there will be A minions

Maybe it's like a secret cult. Should get my nan to watch PLL, she literally knows who the killer is in a murder mystery before the tittles have even roled.

[andybigbro]

Maybe it's like a secret cult. Should get my nan to watch PLL, she literally knows who the killer is in a murder mystery before the tittles have even roled.
:laugh: get her on it then and report back :p

[Will.]

:laugh: get her on it then and report back :p

Yes I will try, although she didn't get Sream 4 killer right, but there weren't many clues and she hadn't seen 1-3. She spent most of time screaming at the TV saying run you stupid bitch. :)

She guessed Lucy killer right and Jane helping the night Lucy died, I have no idea how she got it right!

[Firewire]

Ok, no she is a personal friend of my friends, can't remember how they know each other, thinks it through parents.

name 5 of her albums

[Will.]

name 5 of her albums

I have no idea, it's my friend that knows her.

[Firewire]

I have no idea, it's my friend that knows her.

:joker: i was just messing with you

[Will.]

:joker: i was just messing with you

Haha, I was going to say.

[Will.]

Apparently Mona isn't dead, the actress said its not the end of her

[Natalie.]

name 5 of her albums

:laugh:

[LukeB]

Apparently Mona isn't dead, the actress said its not the end of her

I think you should put that on spoiler, some members are still on season 2:laugh:

[Will.]

I think you should put that on spoiler, some members are still on season 2:laugh:

Oh yes, forgot about that :)

[andybigbro]

I can't find a live stream that works :(

[andybigbro]

I found one :D phew! :laugh:

[Ninastar]

oh my GODDDDD

[Ninastar]

i'm ****ing pissed off

[andybigbro]

I've watched the finale and :
i enjoyed the episode, but I was expecting more :/ so charles is Jason's twin? At the end of the stream it told u
You to hashtag #CharlesIsA. Glad Mona is alive though :)


Ugh need to wait till summer :bawling:

[Firewire]

could be Ali's twin brother

[Jessica.]

there were clearly two boys who look the same, so it has to be Jason's twin, right?

[Jessica.]

Take a look at @dreamydallas's Tweet: https://twitter.com/dreamydallas/status/580552591773470720?s=09

[Natalie.]

I went to sleep :worry: will watch it later

[Smithy]

The meltdowns I have seen online over this whole Charles mess :laugh3:

[andybigbro]

I automatically thought Andrew could be Charles :worry:


So is Charles A? We just don't know what they look like?

[Firewire]

there were clearly two boys who look the same, so it has to be Jason's twin, right?

I haven't seen the episode so I don't know

[Firewire]

Cece is actually a man called Charles imo

[andybigbro]

was it not said buy watching episodes you could work it out? How the hell could we work out Charles was A when we didn't jnowcthere was a Charles till like 2 episodes before :conf2:

[Raph]

What an exciting but equally underwhelming episode! And not enough Ali imo :bored:

[andybigbro]

What an exciting but equally underwhelming episode! And not enough Ali imo :bored:

I agree :sad:

[Jessica.]

I remember a scene of Jason looking at his baby pictures, he only had like five of them, but Ali had three whole albums, he said Ali and everyone else was great at remembering their childhood differently and he wished he could. That makes a lot of sense now, for example.

[Smithy]

i am here for Charles being Jason's fraternal twin who wanted to be a girl, was given up for adoption and became Cece

[Lostie!]

And now we wait. :sad:

[Firewire]

i am here for Charles being Jason's fraternal twin who wanted to be a girl, was given up for adoption and became Cece

:clap1:

[Liam-]

I saw a theory that suggests that

'Charles' isn't A, just being held as a prisoner along with the other liars, considering Marlene herself said that we would see A without a mask or a hood, that theory would make sense if Charles was really the person behind the creepo mask like we're being lead to believe

I love the episode though, the last 20 minutes or so were so creepy :flutter:

[Lostie!]

I'm a little disappointed that A's motivation is apparently not related to avenging Bethany, that would have been the more interesting route for me personally.

[Smithy]

These theories are so messy lmao https://mobile.twitter.com/shona_s_/status/580635440019013632

[Lostie!]

These theories are so messy lmao https://mobile.twitter.com/shona_s_/status/580635440019013632

I saw one that suggested that Charles is Bethany and Bethany is also Wren. Now, you all know I've been a big Wren is A supporter, but I draw a line at Bethany and Wren being the same person. :laugh:

[andybigbro]

But why would this person want to mess with the other girls lives? :conf2:

[LukeB]

What an incredible episode! Disappointed with the reveal but I'm not going to judge it yet, I will wait until Season 6 for it to make sense. I just hope there is a big twist on this.

[Firewire]

I loved the episode, it was beautifully directed

[Jessica.]

I think I am gonna watch it again, I can't remember half of it

[Liam-]

Idk if this would spoil anything for anyone so I'll put it in a spoiler :laugh:
This video of Marlene was posted on the PLL youtube channel

0luIACyxZAg

[Lostie!]

I'm not entirely sure that Charles and Jason are twins just yet, they could just be brothers.

[Jessica.]

I'm not entirely sure that Charles and Jason are twins just yet, they could just be brothers.

Ya, I agree, it's possible. It's so strange though, didn't Jason and Alison grow up in Rosewood? Why wouldn't all of the other parents know? :shrug::shrug:

[Marsh.]

What's with the warning of spoilers when you've already put who is A in the title? :nono:

[LukeB]

What's with the warning of spoilers when you've already put who is A in the title? :nono:

Poor Luciax! she's on season 2 :bored:

[Jessica.]

What's with the warning of spoilers when you've already put who is A in the title? :nono:

It's just a twitter hashtag, it doesn't mean anything :nono: Not technically a spoiler

[LukeB]

you should take it off anyway tbh, people like Luciax do not want spoilers told

[Lostie!]

Ya, I agree, it's possible. It's so strange though, didn't Jason and Alison grow up in Rosewood? Why wouldn't all of the other parents know? :shrug::shrug:

Yeah, if the boys in the home video were Jason and Charles, you'd think Jason would remember having a brother. He was young, but not a baby. :think:

And yes, the other parents would surely know about another DiLaurentis child too.

Unless Charles was given away as a baby, and when he was a little older Jessica wanted to meet him and arranged with whoever looked after him to take him on an outing with Jason and Alison, but didn't tell anyone else that he was in fact their sibling? That sounds like a bit of a stretch though.

[LukeB]

I woke up and went on facebook and it told me who -A was because of the PLL page, I was like who the **** is that :laugh:

[Lostie!]

I woke up and went on facebook and it told me who -A was because of the PLL page, I was like who the **** is that :laugh:

:laugh:

I do hope it's someone we do actually know, just under a different name.

I'm still not ready to totally abandon my Wren theories. Let me dream, dammit!

[andybigbro]

:laugh:

I do hope it's someone we do actually know, just under a different name.

I'm still not ready to totally abandon my Wren theories. Let me dream, dammit!

What if it's Andrew, or Wren hmm but wren is English :think:

[Smithy]

Marlene: we've actually been hinting at Charles for a while the mime in S3 (it was S4 this bitch doesn't even know her own show) was called the great Charlemagne which is actually the origin of the name


Well guys I'm surprised we didn't catch it sooner tbh, it was pretty obvious :umm2:

[Lostie!]

What if it's Andrew, or Wren hmm but wren is English :think:

Well, if he was given away and raised by a different family, he could have primarily grown up in England. But both of the boys in the video had blonde hair, I know blonde hair can darken with age but that much?

I don't think Wren is A anymore, I'd just love him to be. :laugh:

Marlene: we've actually been hinting at Charles for a while the mime in S3 (it was S4 this bitch doesn't even know her own show) was called the great Charlemagne which is actually the origin of the name


Well guys I'm surprised we didn't catch it sooner tbh, it was pretty obvious :umm2:

:laugh:

[andybigbro]

I just feel that Charles is out of the blue? :shrug:

[Smithy]

Apparently Charles isn't even called Charles so

[Firewire]

i trust marlene for once to make this story work

[Will.]

dont think Charles is A, think it has to be someone obsessed with Alison. That place there in is huge, wonder how they will get out.

[Smithy]

Also by the end of 6A this whole story is going to be wrapped up and everything will be answered (apparently), 6B will take place 4 years afterwards, after the girls have been to college

[Will.]

Also by the end of 6A this whole story is going to be wrapped up and everything will be answered (apparently), 6B will take place 4 years afterwards, after the girls have been to college

Yes red about this, and apparently there be a whole new villain when they go into the future, didn't say if another A.

[Will.]

Think the scream series will be quite similar to PLL, theres no ghost face so maybe there trying to make it like PLL.

[andybigbro]

Also by the end of 6A this whole story is going to be wrapped up and everything will be answered (apparently), 6B will take place 4 years afterwards, after the girls have been to college


Where did you hear about this? Has it been confirmed?

[Smithy]

Yep all confirmed in numerous interviews with IMK

[GypsyGoth]

Thought the finale was totally mental, but in a good way, it was kinda fitting for A to have such a lair.

[Natalie.]

Loved the finale, wished it was longer

[Smithy]

Cece/Charles could be the same person imo

How many times has spencer figured out something that's been right? She thought Alison was A, she thought Ezra was A, she thought Melissa was A, she literally thinks everyone is A, for the smart one she's pretty thick, just because she thinks a bunch of blocks spell out Charles means it's his name, doesn't make it true

I think the video we saw was something A got hold of because they envied Alison's "perfect" family, and it's the reason they've tormented her for so long, I wouldn't be surprised if the other kid was Ian

ALSO was anyone else a bit annoyed how they've made andrew look so shady despite the fact he's only been a regular again for like 7 episodes, it's so annoying how (after 5 seasons) they make someone he's been in a total of about 12 episodes a vital part of the show, it'd be better if they'd have shown him more in the show, even if it was just walking down the hallway at school saying hi to the girls

[LukeB]

https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11071671_10205640647792158_5832712694535701191_n.j pg?oh=fced751c743562d78ae5a39c1ad9b395&oe=55A59D9D

[LukeB]

Cece/Charles could be the same person imo

How many times has spencer figured out something that's been right? She thought Alison was A, she thought Ezra was A, she thought Melissa was A, she literally thinks everyone is A, for the smart one she's pretty thick, just because she thinks a bunch of blocks spell out Charles means it's his name, doesn't make it true

I think the video we saw was something A got hold of because they envied Alison's "perfect" family, and it's the reason they've tormented her for so long, I wouldn't be surprised if the other kid was Ian

ALSO was anyone else a bit annoyed how they've made andrew look so shady despite the fact he's only been a regular again for like 7 episodes, it's so annoying how (after 5 seasons) they make someone he's been in a total of about 12 episodes a vital part of the show, it'd be better if they'd have shown him more in the show, even if it was just walking down the hallway at school saying hi to the girls

Hmm good point. but the person in the mask looked like it could be a man :think:

[Raph]

So true Luke, patience so much patience

[LukeB]

So true Luke, patience so much patience

I posted it for you guys :hugesmile:

I can't relate to it since I started this year :laugh:

[Smithy]

Hmm good point. but the person in the mask looked like it could be a man :think:

They were wearing a wig and no doubt a hoody under the suit which hid their body shape :shrug:


Honestly though if they go down this trans A storyline (which i think is more than likely) i can see it getting a lot of backlash, a lot of people are rejected by their family who can't accept them for who they are, they don't all turn into psychopaths hellbent on ruining their sisters lives because they're jealous of them

[andybigbro]

I can't see it being trans related :conf2:

[Smithy]

Thats what a lot of the theories online are, "charles" resented Alison for being born a girl which is what he wanted, he was put in radley by his parents as this is his revenge against the girls

[Jessica.]

wth :umm2:

[Smithy]

http://theplltheorist.tumblr.com/post/114822441529/the-beginning-the-middle-and-the-end-of-charles

:think:

[joe199998293]

I kinda do agree with the 'Charles is Jason's twin' and that Charles wanted to be a girl.
But another reason I think that is because, the Hastings family knows a lot about stuff that we don't know. Like there's still stuff Mr H and Melissa knows. And this makes sense, if Jason and Charles are twins, that would mean that Charles is actually Mr Hastings son, right? Since Jason is...

[joe199998293]

this has blagged my head http://theplltheorist.tumblr.com/post/114822441529/the-beginning-the-middle-and-the-end-of-charles

[andybigbro]

I've been thinking and
I was wondering who killed Ian and Maya? If Mona was A at the time, but didn't kill them then who did? :think: do you think it was Charles? Do we know who killed Ian and Maya? Have I just forgot? :laugh:

[Raph]

I wouldn't be too keen on the whole trans thing tbh but i'd have to wait and see it unfold before I judge it

[Daniel-X]

I've just watched the Halloween episode of series two :flutter: It was definitely the best episode to date it had me gripped and I loved that we finally got to learn more about what life was like before like we already knew a lot but this just gave even more of an insight

[Smithy]

I've been thinking and
I was wondering who killed Ian and Maya? If Mona was A at the time, but didn't kill them then who did? :think: do you think it was Charles? Do we know who killed Ian and Maya? Have I just forgot? :laugh:

we haven't found out ian's yet :umm2: (I'm going to guess it's mona seeing as Big A wasn't on the scene at the time) and Maya was Nathan (her crazy ex bf who pretended he was her cousin when he met Emily)

[Smithy]

http://theplltheorist.tumblr.com/post/114822441529/the-beginning-the-middle-and-the-end-of-charles

:think:

this has blagged my head http://theplltheorist.tumblr.com/post/114822441529/the-beginning-the-middle-and-the-end-of-charles

did you literally just

[Firewire]

screaming

[joe199998293]

did you literally just

i am so very sorry that I reposted a link (sarcasm)

[Lostie!]

i am so very sorry that I reposted a link (sarcasm)

:joker:

[andybigbro]

we haven't found out ian's yet :umm2: (I'm going to guess it's mona seeing as Big A wasn't on the scene at the time) and Maya was Nathan (her crazy ex bf who pretended he was her cousin when he met Emily)


ahh ok, but I doubt Mona would kill anyone :think: I know she was A but I don't think she would go that far...

Also who killed Garret, was that big A?

[Smithy]

I think it'd be stupid if it wasn't her seeing as she was the only A on the scene at the time and so the only person who knew of those specific messages in the suicide note, but like you said I can't see her killing him. Although I did see a theory online that said they thought she was the one who killed Sara Harvey because she thought it was Alison coming back to rosewood

And yeah I think Garrett was killed by A

[andybigbro]

I think it'd be stupid if it wasn't her seeing as she was the only A on the scene at the time and so the only person who knew of those specific messages in the suicide note, but like you said I can't see her killing him. Although I did see a theory online that said they thought she was the one who killed Sara Harvey because she thought it was Alison coming back to rosewood

And yeah I think Garrett was killed by A

I know but I just hope she never killed him.


Ahh I want June to hurry up :worry:

[Billy]

I hope this is a season if answers because as much as i love the show, it can be the most frustrating thing to watch ever.

[Jessica.]

Marlene already said it will answer all of our questions.

[andybigbro]

Marlene already said it will answer all of our questions.

She better not be lying :fist:

[Lostie!]

I hope this is a season if answers because as much as i love the show, it can be the most frustrating thing to watch ever.

I think it truly is this time, the first half of Season 6 is apparently going to completely reveal the whole A mystery.

[Smithy]

Yeah 6A is the end of this story, 6B is after a 4 year time jump to deal with the fallout

[Smithy]

So, Vanessa Ray is back in LA and is 30 minutes away from set

https://media2.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpKRpvezPEjVyAo/200_s.gif

[Firewire]

So, Vanessa Ray is back in LA and is 30 minutes away from set

https://media2.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpKRpvezPEjVyAo/200_s.gif

https://33.media.tumblr.com/826cf79a0f3a78d604c22047f76272d2/tumblr_nhl04vZW2z1sqbiv1o2_250.gif

[Smithy]

https://33.media.tumblr.com/826cf79a0f3a78d604c22047f76272d2/tumblr_nhl04vZW2z1sqbiv1o2_250.gif

http://i.minus.com/iY6ubmjQl8p7k.gif

[Firewire]

confirmed, season 6 premieres June 2nd

[Ninastar]

confirmed, season 6 premieres June 2nd

omfg NOOOOOOO

I'm on the COL 2 trip that week

[andybigbro]

confirmed, season 6 premieres June 2nd

I come back my holiday on the 4th June so that's a a good thing to get me over my holiday blues :D

[Smithy]

confirmed, season 6 premieres June 2nd
Only 7 weeks away :amazed:
omfg NOOOOOOO

I'm on the COL 2 trip that week

I will send you the best bits on snapchat :fan:

[Jessica.]

I'm moving one day before it, I hope some episodes leak beforehand. :joker:

[Natalie.]

Can't wait :amazed:

[Lostie!]

Good to have a premiere date confirmation. :flutter:

[andybigbro]

Good to have a premiere date confirmation. :flutter:

I know, it's exciting :amazed:

[Smithy]

https://igcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10570180_1555105921419614_582946514_n.jpg

Bethany Young everyone :fan:

[Raph]

omfg NOOOOOOO

I'm on the COL 2 trip that week

Caitlin we will stream it and watch it together

[Jessica.]

https://igcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10570180_1555105921419614_582946514_n.jpg

Bethany Young everyone :fan:

:shrug:

[Lostie!]

https://igcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10570180_1555105921419614_582946514_n.jpg

Bethany Young everyone :fan:

Oh yeah I saw that yesterday, excited to finally see her face in the show! :flutter:

[Smithy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDIMRtJUEAAvc87.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDIMRtKUkAAf5LW.jpg

Maddie Ziegler will be on PLL. Mandi, the costume designer, posted a picture with her last night,

[Firewire]

omg not miss mini sia getting an acting role

[andybigbro]

PLL starts back next month :dance2:

[Firewire]

20 episodes for season 6 instead of 24/25 hopefully this means less filler

[Natalie.]

Can't wait for it to be back :D

[Natalie.]

http://tvline.com/2015/05/01/pretty-little-liars-season-6-premiere-promo-video-charles/

promo vid

[Lostie!]

http://tvline.com/2015/05/01/pretty-little-liars-season-6-premiere-promo-video-charles/

promo vid

It looks goooood! :flutter:

[Smithy]

It won't load on my phone :moorangu:

[Beastie]

Not watched this show. Is there plenty of sex and revenge in it?? x Is it on Netflix?

[Lostie!]

Not watched this show. Is there plenty of sex and revenge in it?? x Is it on Netflix?

:joker:

It's an ABC Family show, so while the characters do have sex it's not really shown in detail. Sorry if that's a negative. :laugh:

And yes, plenty of revenge courtesy of A and it is on Netflix. :thumbs:

[Firewire]

There's revenge but it's a tween show so there's no sex. Yes it's on Netflix.

[Smithy]

Omg the trailer looks so good -cries-

[LukeB]

post it?

[Smithy]

It's 6 posts up you lazy ****

[LukeB]

I'm so excited :D

[joe199998293]

I got goosebumps during that.

[Natalie.]

Episode 1 pics

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xhzoxjfa4tsrdke/AACLR2EsShXcG87Ldip38DJHa?dl=0#/

[Smithy]

So looks like Ali is appealing for help and Mona is telling the girls what she knows (:amazed:)

[Lostie!]

Episode 1 pics

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xhzoxjfa4tsrdke/AACLR2EsShXcG87Ldip38DJHa?dl=0#/

Thanks for these! :thumbs:

[Smithy]

Seen people online saying they think that Bethany isn't dead either D:

[Jessica.]

I am so pumped for June!!

[Lostie!]

Seen people online saying they think that Bethany isn't dead either D:

I hope she is, that would push the silliness way too far. :facepalm:

I think she is though.

[Natalie.]

l-YkM1sdPQw

Wonder what she means about the replayed 1st scene :think:

[Lostie!]

l-YkM1sdPQw

Wonder what she means about the replayed 1st scene :think:

Thanks for posting this! Very interesting about a replayed scene. :think:

I wonder how much of 6A they've completed.

[Smithy]

I wonder if it's to do with the room they saw the building blocks in, and they realise Charles isn't Charles, he's dead

Also Lostie, they're filming 6x07/08 atm, Marlene finished the season finale script two days ago, all of the girls (aside from aria's) bedrooms have all be dismantled, they aren't using them every again :o

[Natalie.]

http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abcfamily/video/bdcxazhr57bbq_fur7gzekdv3egltr0g/embed/

http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abcfamily/video/1zzmkhg25w1f4bcgqztnvg1ludmcggpp/embed/


Episode 1 clips I think

[Lostie!]

http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abcfamily/video/bdcxazhr57bbq_fur7gzekdv3egltr0g/embed/

http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abcfamily/video/1zzmkhg25w1f4bcgqztnvg1ludmcggpp/embed/


Episode 1 clips I think

Thanks for posting these! :)

[Will.]

looks amazing!

[Smithy]

Tonight :amazed:

Reading this got me so excited to omg http://www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwieselman/pretty-little-liars-season-6-set-visit-secrets-spoilers?utm_term=.uvkgAgWLJ

[Liam-]

Emily with bangs though :love:

I'm so ready to finally be getting some answers, hopefully there aren't too many fillers.

[Lostie!]

PLL Day!!! :amazed:

Tonight :amazed:

Reading this got me so excited to omg http://www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwieselman/pretty-little-liars-season-6-set-visit-secrets-spoilers?utm_term=.uvkgAgWLJ

That was a really great article, thanks for posting. :)

[Firewire]

I'm sad that they've cut the season to 20 instead of 25 but I guess it means less filler

[LukeB]

:flutter:

[Lostie!]

This is really interesting.

http://www.reddit.com/r/PrettyLittleLiars/comments/3805k8/the_thatswhatasaid_megapost_spoilers/

Especially the one about Mona's scene in Radley in the Season 2 finale. I've seen theories floating around for a while that there were two voices, but it all sounds like Janel to me (just with the second half in a more harsh tone of voice). I do think Janel did the entire voiceover of that scene, but it's possible that the second half of the speech is meant to be from A's perspective (but recorded by Janel to disguise that).

I'm not saying that Twitter user is legit or anything, it's more likely that they're not, I've just always found that particular theory intriguing. And then there was Janel's recent interview where she said we'll revisit a past scene where something was revealed without the viewers even knowing, she could be talking about that one.

Either way, one of the most fun things about this show is the speculation and theorising. :laugh:

[Smithy]

Anyone watched yet? Can't wait to finish work and watch :amazed:

[Liam-]

omfg that episode was amazing! :flutter:

[Lostie!]

Sara ****ing Harvey! :amazed:

When the actress posted a picture of herself in the yellow top I thought for sure she was Bethany in a flashback. :laugh:

[Smithy]

So A kidnapped Sara the night after Ali went missing and she's been her doll ever since :omgno:

[Firewire]

Great episode but was very "part 2" of the season finale which I think I liked actually. Hopefully we start to get some answers now.

[LukeB]

I thought it was beth at first :joker:

[Natalie.]

Loved it, wish it was the next episode now

[Smithy]

606512077440741376

So she's told Vanessa :fan:

[Firewire]

VAnessA RAy

omg it's real

[Lostie!]

I've sort of accepted it's probably CeCe now, but it's still not what I ideally want. :laugh:

[Smithy]

I think as long as the reason is good i'll be happy with whoever it is (even tho I'm sure it's cece)

[Lostie!]

Oh, there are some options that would make me furious (Andrew, or some randomer we've never even seen, etc). CeCe isn't my dream A but I'd take that over some of those alternatives.

[LukeB]

I will be so pissed off if it's someone irrelevant

[Lostie!]

I will be so pissed off if it's someone irrelevant

As a big mystery fan, my pet peeve is when it's revealed to be someone you don't even know. The whole mystery aspect becomes pointless if it was never a character you'd never met anyway. :fist:

An episode of Bones pulled that once and I was livid. 45 minutes of my life I'll never get back. :hmph: :laugh: It was just that once though, Bones is still one of my favourites. :fan:

[Natalie.]

I've sort of accepted it's probably CeCe now, but it's still not what I ideally want. :laugh:

Yeah I don't want it to be CeCe either but she's a better option than some others :laugh:

[Firewire]

Hope A turns out to be Hanna's mom

[Smithy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGrMZqHW8AAf3PM.png

So Bethany and Charles may have known each other :omgno:

[Lostie!]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGrMZqHW8AAf3PM.png

So Bethany and Charles may have known each other :omgno:

I'd hope so. Bethany has to figure into the A reveal somehow, so I'm glad they're definitely giving Charles a Radley connection.

I'd have been disappointed otherwise tbh, especially after all the "Everything leads back to Radley" stuff we've always heard.

[andybigbro]

Loved the episode! Can't wait for next weeks :amazed:

[Smithy]

I'd hope so. Bethany has to figure into the A reveal somehow, so I'm glad they're definitely giving Charles a Radley connection.

I'd have been disappointed otherwise tbh, especially after all the "Everything leads back to Radley" stuff we've always heard.

I wonder if

Bethany killed Charles (accidentally) and then whoever killed bethany did it out of revenge

[Will.]

Such an amazing episode!

[Natalie.]

SlhhBX4-czg

thought that was an interesting s5 deleted scene

[Smithy]

Not surprised it was deleted, if it was from early in the season, it pretty much tells you there's another brother

[Smithy]

In the 6x04 synopsis, we learned that Charles was indeed sent to Radley as a young boy. Why? Though we can’t make a for-sure estimate, we guess that it might be because he hurt Alison, possibly causing her fractured elbow that we heard of during the trial. However, he wasn’t alone in that children’s ward… Around the same time, another young girl was sent to Radley. Her name? CeCe Drake.

In 2x13, Alison told Hanna a story, a story about twin girls. In the story, there are two identical blonde twins, the two girls are at a table playing with their dolls. Everything is going well until the two girls fight over a single doll.

If those dolls look familiar to you, they should… Each doll represents one of the liars, the one the twins fight over? The doll that looks the most like Alison. The two tug back and forth until one finally snatched it out of the other’s hands, the losing twin then gets up from her chair and stabs her sister in the chest. The parents then arrive home to find their other daughter in a pool of blood, a sick smile accross the other twins face- as a result, she was sent to Radley.

While CeCe and Charles were in Radley, they became friends, it’s safe to assume they loved one another- whether as friends or as a brother/sister relationship. Jessica joined the board at Radley to keep an eye on her son Charles… but she didn’t tell Kenneth. In the 6x02 promo, you can tell Kenneth hated Charles for whatever he had done to Alison, if he found out that Jessica was seeing him, Ken would leave them. This is where the two yellow dresses from episode 5x13 come in, Mrs. DiLaurentis bought that second yellow dress for CeCe, Charles’ friend in Radley. Jessica was still fulfilling her duties as a mother with Charles and even extended some to CeCe since they were so close. She bought it for her as a Christmas gift. Jessica said that if Kenneth found out about the yellow dress he will leave the family. Why? Because that yellow dress is what links Jessica to Charles. If Kenneth found out, Jessica would’ve had to confess that she got that dress for a young girl that was Charles’ friend in Radley.
Everything Goes Back to Radley

While CeCe and Charles were in Radley, something tragic happened that resulted in Charles death, which is most likely why the Children’s Ward got shut down. This destroyed Cece. Flash forward years later, it’s Halloween in Rosewood (2x13 - “The First Secret”). The Liars stop in front of a creepy looking house, Emily immediately jumps back and says she saw someone in the house, the liars brush it off thinking it was probably a kid playing around. Aria expresses that she feels like something bad happened there. As the liars walk past the house we see a car, the car was from Radley Sanitarium. I’m assuming that the creepy house was CeCe’s, the house where she stabbed her twin, and she either snuck out of Radley that day, or was released. Convinently, both the twin story AND “The First Secret” were told in 2x13, the two are definitely related and Cece was the one to tell Alison that twin story… HER story. Cece was the one that sent the first text to Alison. Cece was the one wearing the baby doll mask in the Halloween store. Cece was the one that lured Alison to that haunted house and was the one that attacked her. And CeCe wanted Alison as her doll.

Now we get to Marion Cavanaugh. Marion was a nurse at Radley, she cared for Cece and Charles while they were in Radley, they all became very close. Since Marion cared for Cece and Charles and acted as a guardian, when news came around of Marions death- it further destroyed Cece. Now, in episode 4x10 “The Mirror Has Three Faces” Hanna and Spencer talk to Jessica about Dr. Palmer (Marion’s Doctor in Radley). They ask Jessica if Dr. Palmer was her doctor, she replies “If it’s the guy I’m thinking of, I have only met the one time” They then go back in a flashback.

Knowing Marion the way Cece did, and hearing that Marion’s death was ruled a suicide from jumping off the roof, and knowing Radley like she did… Cece knew something was definitely wrong. So, Cece dressed up as Alison and went to Radley calling herself “Alison DiLaurentis” and since the Childrens ward had been down for a while, no one would recognize Cece. There… She met Bethany Young. This brings me to a scene between Dr. Palmer and Toby in 4x04, when Toby was trying to figure out what happened to his mom. Something that always struck me as odd was that Big A had actually been HELPING Toby figure out what happened to Marion. They knew very personal things about Marion, like which songs she used to play on the piano… This means A loved Marion as well. Big A doesn’t help ANYONE but for some reason they help Toby figure out what happened to Marion. So, in this scene Toby gets discouraged when he doesnt get any answers from Dr. Palmer about his mothers death…

Dr. Palmer asks Toby to tell Marion to “Stay away from that blonde girl. There’s something wrong with the air around that one. Very troubling.” For a long time, I had thought Dr. Palmer was referring to Cece, but then I realized there was someone else in Radley during the time Marion was in Radley, and Cece was NOT in Radley around the time Marion was murdered… But there WAS a blonde patient who was. Her name? Bethany Young.

Cece had done some digging and figured out that Bethany had murdered Marion, Bethany was in fact the fragile patient Dr. Palmer warned about. We saw in Bethany’s sketch book, that she had in fact witnessed Marion’s death. What we didn’t realize was that she had actually killed her. Enraged, Cece begins to come up with a plan, a plan that would solve all of her problems and get her exactly what she wanted in one night. She was going to murder Bethany for what she did to Marion and then she was going to kidnap Alison and put her in the dollhouse she had created, leaving Bethany’s body to be identified as Alison. Cece had befriended Bethany, she began feeding Bethany lies about Jessica and slowly her rage towards Jessica got so bad she would express them in her sketchbook. Cece told Jessica that she was dating Mr. Young (Bethany’s father), that Jessica was going to break up her family. As the plan was coming together Cece bought Bethany a yellow top and Alison bracelet- identical to the one Alison was going to have that night. Everything was coming together.

Cece had shown Bethany how to escape Radley, just as she did for Mona when she stole the game from her. Bethany’s rage for Jessica worked to Cece’s advantege, when Jessica got the call from Radley saying that Bethany escaped, Jessica told Alison to stay inside in fear that Bethany would go after her and Alison. Cece bought herself, Bethany, and Alison the exact same yellow ruffled top- so that when Cece knocked Alison and Bethany out, should anyone see, they wouldn’t know who was who. And, when Bethany’s body was to ever be found, the yellow ruffled top and Alison bracelet would be all that anyone needed to identify Alison’s body. So the way Cece planned it, while Bethany was dead, Alison would be in Cece’s dollhouse.

CeCe even switched the dental records beforehand so nobody would know. But CeCe’s plan went awry. Here’s what happened: CeCe planted Bethany and Alison the exact same clothing so her plan could work out even better. Bethany snuck out of Radley, as she was told to. Once she arrived in the DiLaurentis’ backyard, CeCe hit her over the head with a shovel and knocked her out. CeCe then heard Alison and Spencer fighting right after and went to see what was going on. Once the argument was over, she, just like Melissa, saw Spencer walking back with a shovel in her hand. Melissa then finds Bethany and assumes that it was Alison and that Spencer killed her, so she buries her to protect Spencer. CeCe then came back to where she had left Bethany’s body, but she was gone, Melissa had moved the body and buried it before anyone saw. Thinking that Bethany regained consciousness and was wandering about, CeCe tried to go find her and again and this time knock her out… For good. During this time, Alison was walking back to her house from the barn, she hadn’t gotten a message and she thought she won. Jessica saw Alison walking back and was relieved that she was safe since she found Bethany had escaped from Radley. All of a sudden, CeCe hit Alison with the closest thing at her disposal, a rock. Cece saw Alison walking to the house and from behind, Alison looked like Bethany, so Cece hit Alison over the head as hard as she could. This is when CeCe’s plan got screwed up… Not only was Bethany dead, but she thought she had just killed Alison by mistake. Jessica witnesses the mistake and CeCe forced Jessica to bury Alison, from then on CeCe had been blackmailing Jessica, and when she found out Alison was alive- Cece had nothing over her anymore… So, she killed her to keep the secret.

So what did CeCe do the next day? After she broke up with Jason randomly, she kidnapped the person that was like Alison the most: Sara Harvey. If you looked at the tallies that Sara made in her little room in the dollhouse, it’s apparent that she was there since the day she was kidnapped. CeCe made Sara act like she was Alison by wearing the yellow top (which further proves Cece is A… She’s literally the only one who hada yellow shirt left after that night), etc. A few years later, the Liars are on the hunt for answers and the truth regarding Alison and her death. They find a number in Alison’s Vivian Darkbloom coat and call it. The woman who answered was CeCe. This is how she found out that the Liars were digging up the truth, and she was going to get exposed. This is when she began her comeback to Rosewood to steal the game back from Mona. In 2x25, CeCe made her first appearance at the Masquerade Ball by wearing a long red dress and covering her face with a golden sun mask. At the end of the episode, CeCe visits Mona in Radley as Red Coat and steals the game from her officially. Season 3 is when CeCe really moved back to Rosewood, which is why we see ‘A’ in the 'A’ endings moving into an apartment and buying things. Season 3 is when CeCe started adding onto her dollhouse to now include the Liars… And now that the Liars, Mona, Sara, and Alison are gone, and her memory room for Charles is burned down… Cece has nothing left but to go full throttle, and I think the girls are going to finally figure it out after they realize Charles is in fact dead and Cece had been in the Childrens ward in Radley.

PLL solved? :o

Yes it's long don't complain, it's worth a read

[Ninastar]

Tl:dr

[Natalie.]

Oh I like that theory, just wish they'd been in a tiny bit more

[Smithy]

Tl:dr

diaf

[andybigbro]

That episode wasn't as good as the first in the season :sad:

[Lostie!]

It was lacking in the answers department but I think it was a good episode to deal with the aftermath of the dollhouse. It looks like the Charles stuff will take centre stage again next week. :)

From the promo, it seems Jason remembers Charles from his childhood as "Charlie".

[andybigbro]

Aww where can I find the promo Lostie!? :)

[andybigbro]

Ps loving the pll sig and av combo :p

[Smithy]

I've seen everyone online saying it was a filler episode, but tbh, the girls have just been through a really traumatic experience, it'd be really unrealistic for them to jump straight into detective mode again, I'm glad we saw the issues each of them were having

[LukeB]

Another amazing episode :love:

[Lostie!]

Aww where can I find the promo Lostie!? :)

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Ps loving the pll sig and av combo :p

Thank you. :flutter:

[andybigbro]

Thanks :hugesmile:

[LukeB]

Spencer and Alison :flutter:

[andybigbro]

I've seen everyone online saying it was a filler episode, but tbh, the girls have just been through a really traumatic experience, it'd be really unrealistic for them to jump straight into detective mode again, I'm glad we saw the issues each of them were having

Yeah that's true.

I just want to know answers soo badly, it's frustrating :laugh:

[andybigbro]

I'm sad Mona wasn't in the ep. It would have been nice to see her and her mum together considering her mum thought she was dead.

so was it CeCe that attacked Mona in her house?

[joe199998293]

That promo really gave me the goosebumps.

[Smithy]

Finale spoiler (kind of)

Cece has a stunt double

:fan:

[Natalie.]

I hate the wait now for Wednesday :laugh:

[Liam-]

Ashley and Shay did a Periscope and it was really cute, there's not much about the show in it, only that they're finishing filming the season in October, but i thought I'd post it here anyway :love:

-5jtaYAkRac

[Smithy]

How can they finish in October when the finale airs in August? :joker:

[Liam-]

at 2:52 she's asked when they finish shooting and she says 'we finish in October, for this season at least' idk if they're filming season 7 already or something :laugh:

[Smithy]

Oh it'll probably be 6B, they're filming the 6A finale atm, so they must break now till like July/August then film the next 10

[Lostie!]

I can't believe it's Tuesday again already, new episode tomorrow. :flutter:

I'm really excited for this one.

[andybigbro]

I can't believe it's Tuesday again already, new episode tomorrow. :flutter:

I'm really excited for this one.

I know I can't wait :amazed:

[Saph]

I think A is cici

[Lostie!]

I know I can't wait :amazed:

The promo for this one looks great. :flutter:

[andybigbro]

The promo for this one looks great. :flutter:

I know! :amazed: can't wait! :D

[Smithy]

Eeeeee really good episode! Feels like it's gearing up to finally answer all the questions!

Next weeks looks great too

charles is dead, bit like in that cece theory :fan:

[andybigbro]

Loved he episode! Really want to know who Charles is!

I wonder what was being said at the end :fist: ahh role on next week! :p

[LukeB]

:love:

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[Smithy]

Loved he episode! Really want to know who Charles is!

I wonder what was being said at the end :fist: ahh role on next week! :p

You could tell he said your brother :laugh:

[Will.]

I started watching from episode 21 of S5 as I was being nagged to watch it and have watched up to s6 e3.

But on Friday i wanted to know more about it all so watched all of S3 (knew all about s1 and 2).

Watched most of s4.

and now watching all of s5 and on ep 21 again atm, I understand it so much better now.

Although what was the whole thing with Erzla and Alison and the book?

[Smithy]

Ezra and Alison had a brief relationship and he was writing a book about her disappearance, trying to find her

[Will.]

Ezra and Alison had a brief relationship and he was writing a book about her disappearance, trying to find her


ah Thank you!

[andybigbro]

So excited for the next ep! :amazed:

[andybigbro]

Loved that ep :amazed:

[Liam-]

That episode :flutter:
Is it safe to say that the person Ali's mother was meant to send the 'I can't protect you anymore' email to was Charles?

[Will.]

It was such a good episode!

Think they should have dug the grave up just to be sure, but if A isn't Charles then their back to to the beginning!

[Will.]

I wonder who the person was that pretended to kill Mona, I'm guessing CeCe...

Think Alison dads isn't telling Aliso and Jason everything he knows...

The girls should hunt down some of the patients who were at Radley for a long time to get information about Charles.

[Lostie!]

Brilliant episode. :love:

I really like Charles being dead and A being someone who knew him, it opens up the suspect pool and avenues for theorising again.

That episode :flutter:
Is it safe to say that the person Ali's mother was meant to send the 'I can't protect you anymore' email to was Charles?

I personally don't think so, I believe that Charles really is dead. But that could always turn out to be another misdirect. :laugh:

I'm also suspicious of Sara, just the way she keeps going off to "take a shower" at random intervals. I don't think she's A (omg that would be godawful) but I think she's working with A. I've seen a theory that she has Stockholm Syndrome and is helping A, I can see that playing out.

[LukeB]

What a great episode

I think Charles is really dead and my instinct still tells me -A is CeCe even tho her whereabouts is unknown atm, Since she's best friends with Alison it's possible she found out about Charles

[Will.]

What I think (long)

I think Jessica saw Charles hit Alison over the head (the night she went missing) because he was jealous of her perfect up bringing and Jessica immediately acted like a mother and buried her, a bit like what Jane did in EastEnders for Bobby (protect Charles). Jessica used her sisters house as a safe house for Charles and made the grave for people not to suspect and ultimately give her a fake reason whilst she's kept the house, Jessica loved Charles and didnt want anyone to find out.

Jessica and Charles slowly got fed each up other and this turned Jessica away from Charles and as the whole A case was heating up and she felt she couldn't protect him any longer so wrote him the email saying "I can't help you".

Charles got tired of her and saw his mother as a threat as she could expose him so Charles killed her to protect his identity.

[Lostie!]

What I think (long)

I think Jessica saw Charles hit Alison over the head (the night she went missing) because he was jealous of her perfect up bringing and Jessica immediately acted like a mother and buried her, a bit like what Jane did in EastEnders for Bobby (protect Charles). Jessica used her sisters house as a safe house for Charles and made the grave for people not to suspect and ultimately give her a fake reason whilst she's kept the house, Jessica loved Charles and didnt want anyone to find out.

Jessica and Charles slowly got fed each up other and this turned Jessica away from Charles and as the whole A case was heating up and she felt she couldn't protect him any longer so wrote him the email saying "I can't help you".

Charles got tired of her and saw his mother as a threat as she could expose him so Charles killed her to protect his identity.

If Charles is actually alive, I can see it playing out exactly like that.

[LukeB]

I hope Charles is really dead because it would be boring if he was actually -A

[LukeB]

Is it true Season 7 is the last series they're going to do?

[Lostie!]

Is it true Season 7 is the last series they're going to do?

That's been heavily suggested, but not flat-out confirmed as far as I know. I reckon it will be, though.

[LukeB]

That's been heavily suggested, but not flat-out confirmed as far as I know. I reckon it will be, though.

Oh because I heard Lucy said 7th season is the last.

[andybigbro]

What a great episode

I think Charles is really dead and my instinct still tells me -A is CeCe even tho her whereabouts is unknown atm, Since she's best friends with Alison it's possible she found out about Charles

who was the guy at the fake prom dance then in the doll house? It was definitely a man :think: wren perhaps? :think:

[Will.]

Yeah apparently it is according to Lucy, no word from the producers!

There are suggestings they will make a movie although they would have to have a whole new A/story that doesn't connect to the series really as people won't get it as not everyone will have seen the show

[Lostie!]

who was the guy at the fake prom dance then in the doll house? It was definitely a man :think: wren perhaps? :think:

I want Wren to be A so badly. :laugh:

[LukeB]

who was the guy at the fake prom dance then in the doll house? It was definitely a man :think: wren perhaps? :think:

Maybe she could have wore something that made her arms look big :think:

[andybigbro]

Maybe she could have wore something that made her arms look big :think:

But you saw the back of the head did we not? And it was a guy head if that makes sense :laugh:

[andybigbro]

I want Wren to be A so badly. :laugh:

I know :p haha

[andybigbro]

oh and why has Mike, Jenna, Sydney, Holbrook etc all vanished :conf2:

[Will.]

Imagine if Sara was A (had a sex change), run away fro her adopted mother to her real mother Jessica, and she made herself appear and the end of doll house to look like she was a victim, and she has a male helper helping her.

[LukeB]

But you saw the back of the head did we not? And it was a guy head if that makes sense :laugh:

It could be a wig or even cut her hair, If she's going to be charles she has to look like a man. -A is Smart

[andybigbro]

Also I want to know about varjack and he number that spelled out Sara Harvey

[Will.]

Does anyone know if

In series 6 ep1 we saw A standing behind that mirror (very freaky) whilst the liars set fire to the doll house and then there was an A in the control room at the same time, was that the same person or were they different A'?

[Natalie.]

I saw a video and Marlene said she wanted PLL to go on as long as it could but with different people and stories

[LukeB]

We find out who -A is in 6 weeks?

[Will.]

I saw a video and Marlene said she wanted PLL to go on as long as it could but with different people and stories

omg imagine with all new people in a different town etc.

Probably the best way to carry the show on with all new liars and stuff

[Lostie!]

oh and why has Mike, Jenna, Sydney, Holbrook etc all vanished :conf2:

Mike's busy being a werewolf in Beacon Hills this summer. :laugh:

In other words, the actor has joined Teen Wolf. :joker:

[Will.]

Perched for A appearing on benefits street, how does he/she afford everything without presumably a job.

[Will.]

NEW Marlene King interview!

http://www.etonline.com/tv/166692_pretty_little_liars_marlene_king_time_jump_ weddings_summer_finale_revealing_a/

So it gets as dark as possible and lots of people are right about who A is

[LukeB]

Habit

[Smithy]

Why is everyone talking in spoilers :suspect: nobody's gonna spoil it for themselves be coming in before they've seen it


Anyway, as good as the episode was is anyone else a bit frustrated with the season? So far this summer of answers, we haven't had answers for anything from S1-5 all we know is what you thought you knew after the S5 finale turned out to be wrong and Charles is dead, that isn't an answer just another twist :conf2:

I can see the season carrying on being full of red herrings and after seeing the synopsis for 6x6 The girls now think Leslie :umm2: is A it's just going to carry on like that until the last two episodes where we finally get answers and even then it isn't going to be all the answers we were promised

Anyway rant over :hee: Cece is still A, fell in love with Charles in Radley and is avenging his death

[Will.]

Season 6B finale is on the 5th August

[Smithy]

6B won't start till January :conf2:

[Will.]

6B won't start till January :conf2:

sorry I meant 6A! I was very sleepy at that time!

Do they have a break between filming?

If they have just finished the 6A final then they probably won't start with 6B until late November- if theres a 6 week gap.

[Smithy]

Yeah they start filming in September i think

[Will.]

Yeah they start filming in September i think

cool!

We need answers now! Its very interesting but dragging a little.

I hope if theres another A thing in 6B it has nothing to do with series 1-6A! A whole new storyline would be amazing.

[Lostie!]

I can see the season carrying on being full of red herrings and after seeing the synopsis for 6x6 The girls now think Leslie :umm2: is A

Leslie? :laugh: I mean, I get them suspecting her since she showed up last season and stirred **** up, but I don't think the show needs to waste time on her as a red herring at this point when we know it won't be her.

Wait, is she the girl referred to as being at Radley at the same time as Charles in the promo for next week? Because I've seen a theory online that Leslie was at Radley, there's an extra in Radley who looks the spitting image of her. :joker:

Cece is still A, fell in love with Charles in Radley and is avenging his death

Probably ... but I bloody hope not. :whistle:

[Will.]

Leslie is suspicious but don't thinks she's A unless theres compelling evidence which supports the theory, she could just be working for A.

[Will.]

What was the whole Varjack thing? I completely forgot

[Smithy]

Leslie? :laugh: I mean, I get them suspecting her since she showed up last season and stirred **** up, but I don't think the show needs to waste time on her as a red herring at this point when we know it won't be her.

Wait, is she the girl referred to as being at Radley at the same time as Charles in the promo for next week? Because I've seen a theory online that Leslie was at Radley, there's an extra in Radley who looks the spitting image of her. :joker:



Probably ... but I bloody hope not. :whistle:

yeah the girls must find something which alludes to her being in Radley at the same time as Charles, so obviously this bitch they've never met or heard of must be the main suspect, like how dumb are these girls gonna be :umm2: it's more frustrating cause Marlene knows fans want answers, ratings are falling weekly and rather than give them they're just gonna cram it into the finale, it's just a big mess

[Lostie!]

yeah the girls must find something which alludes to her being in Radley at the same time as Charles, so obviously this bitch they've never met or heard of must be the main suspect, like how dumb are these girls gonna be :umm2: it's more frustrating cause Marlene knows fans want answers, ratings are falling weekly and rather than give them they're just gonna cram it into the finale, it's just a big mess

Yeah, obviously pointless red herrings are more of a waste of time than ever right now.

But having Lesli be suspected of being in Radley is quite funny just because of the already-existing theory floating around. People thought this was her:

http://media.tumblr.com/a9d42b70895f29c8a783d1e5e0051e75/tumblr_inline_njqriefl3Z1r2m797.png

It does look like her but I had it down as a coincidence. :laugh:

[Will.]

Next weeks episode looks scary and amazing!

OmZ1zpatrBw

[Will.]

So Leslie is A

[Smithy]

Lol no

[Will.]

Lol no

Yeah obvs, there just trying to make out like she is, but we all know there be another breakthrough! They need to hurry up! It's getting a bit stupid now!

Defo think Leslie has connection to A though somehow

[Smithy]

Screaming at spencer "no Melissa just buried her alive, she didn't kill her" :joker::joker:

[Will.]

Screaming at spencer "no Melissa just buried her alive, she didn't kill her" :joker::joker:

lmao , so casual for such a serious thing

[Lostie!]

Screaming at spencer "no Melissa just buried her alive, she didn't kill her" :joker::joker:

I love how that little exchange pretty much summed up the craziness of PLL.

"Lesli probably thinks we helped Ali kill Bethany and bury her in that pit".
"Your sister did that".
"No, Melissa just buried her, we still have no idea who whacked her over the head".

:joker:

[Lostie!]

"Do you really think I wanted perjury on my resume?"
"I don't know what that means, but I don't like your tone".

I loved that. :joker:

[Smithy]

No episode for 2 weeks now :(

[Will.]

No episode for 2 weeks now :(

ffs

[andybigbro]

I can't wait two weeks :bawling: