Pretty Little LiArs -

[Will.]

Mine seems to lag? Is it my connection?

maybe I dont know, mines fine, have you closed the chat?

[andybigbro]

maybe I dont know, mines fine, have you closed the chat?

Yeah I've closed the chat :(

[Will.]

Yeah I've closed the chat :(

hmm! Maybe it will stop!

[Will.]

whats it like now?

[andybigbro]

whats it like now?

It's ok, a wee bit lagging at times and jumping. Is your like that?

[Will.]

It's ok, a wee bit lagging at times and jumping. Is your like that?

no its really good, but wifi is terrible so its strange.

[Will.]

2,000 people watching the stream

[andybigbro]

It's quite good just now. But I fear it's gonna be **** when the finale is on

[Raph]

Really hope the stream works, very excited for this

[Will.]

IKR, we can hope! So perched! the stream was dreadful about 10-11

[andybigbro]

:fc: :fc:

[Will.]

Ive just realised I've been watching since 5pm, watched all the marathon episodes

[andybigbro]

Ive just realised I've been watching since 5pm, watched all the marathon episodes

Haha no way and has it been good all day?

[Will.]

they selected good episodes at the beginning as it refreshed my memory and everything, but the ones near the end have been bad and confused me.

[LukeB]

It sucks we have to wait until next year for the next part of the season

[Will.]

Haha no way and has it been good all day?

yeah since 5, I was actually watching at about 2, just having it in the background and chatting away on the chat.

theres been 6 episodes, but its taking 7 hours due to all the stuff in-between

[andybigbro]

they selected good episodes at the beginning as it refreshed my memory and everything, but the ones near the end have been bad and confused me.

Ahh ok and how was the quality?

[LukeB]

20 mins guys :flutter:

[Will.]

Ahh ok and how was the quality?

not as good as it was now, it starred crashing at about 7 and happened again at 11!

[andybigbro]

My stream stopped for like two seconds. Did anyone else's?

[Will.]

omg this is so exciting

[LukeB]

My stream stopped for like two seconds. Did anyone else's?

I hope it doesn't do that during the show :fist:

[Will.]

My stream stopped for like two seconds. Did anyone else's?

yes happened to me

[andybigbro]

Mine was **** when it first came back but it's ok now

[Will.]

just refreshed the stream! Working fine

[Will.]

anyone has a bit lag a sec ago?

[andybigbro]

I have an 500 internal error :O

[LukeB]

can i have the link again please?

[Will.]

omg no, will come back on though! happened to me earlier!

[andybigbro]

I can't cope with this.

I might just wait :(

[andybigbro]

I don't want it to happen during the finale

[Will.]

it will normally be good for very long once back on!

[Will.]

I think they will do something to make the stream better when the finale is on.

[andybigbro]

Did u get the error just there?

[Will.]

no, there defo doing something to improve the stream.

[andybigbro]

Still not working for me :(

[Will.]

omg no! Keep trying :(

[Will.]

Made a separate thread for tonights show, just don't want to ruin it for anyone on this thread!

[LukeB]

the link doesn't work will :(

found this tho http://earthdispatch.com/abcfamily.html

[Will.]

http://livetvcafe.net/video/D7NS4SY7B6R5/ABC-Family

[Smithy]

http://streamfare.com/abcfamily.html doesn't lag at all

[Will.]

wait I dont know why its not working,

type in ABC family live stream and its the net cafe one

[LukeB]

It says Error 502 D:

[Smithy]

2 minutes :amazed: so excited

[Will.]

The one Smithy sent works Luke :)

[Lostie!]

Okay, I'm gonna stay away from this thread now until I've seen the episode tomorrow. Anyone who manages to watch live, enjoy it! :)

[Will.]

yep the one I've been using has crashed!


Smithy has saved us all!

[Smithy]

:hee:

[LukeB]

:amazed:

[LukeB]

I don't know how you waited 5 years Smithy

[Smithy]

ahhhhhhhdkbsd,jcba,smvsk

[Will.]

OMG

[Will.]

VERY PLEASED!

[Will.]

Stopped watching as kept buffering! Looks amazing though!

Tanner the sneaky Bitch

[Raph]

Loving this, but the lagging will require rewatching this again later. Such interesting dynamics

[Smithy]

lemme just bump my theory from a few weeks ago when 90% of this episode was in it

[Raph]

How long is the finale btw?

[Smithy]

OH MY GOD THESE TWISTS ah

[Smithy]

just an hour raph

[Raph]

How long is the episode smithy?

[Raph]

Emily punching Sara :worship:

But no Emison kiss :( :( :(

[Smithy]

****ing hell how bad they made alison look in 5 years time :joker: :joker:

[Jessica.]

:joker: They all look so weird!

[Smithy]

Who the **** killed ian and Mrs D tho

[Jessica.]

Who the **** killed ian and Mrs D tho

I'm guessing Sara. :umm2:

[Jessica.]

I wonder if the moms are still locked in the basement after the 5 year jump :joker:

[Smithy]

I wonder if the moms are still locked in the basement after the 5 year jump :joker:

:joker::joker::joker:

[Jessica.]

So is Cece definitely not Bethany?

[Smithy]

no bethany is dead

[Smithy]

can't believe they actually went with the trans thing after they said they weren't going to, i was right to begin with :fist:

[Jessica.]

That is the only thing that disappointed me to be honest, everything else was flawless but the transgender thing is messy

[Smithy]

still SO many questions tho, and having red coat and black widow be introduced in S3&4 but have them be a character introduced in SEASON 6 is SO messy, there's literally no way anyone would have guessed, it's ****ing dumb

[Jessica.]

I know, I want to know that too! Also who killed Ian and Mrs D and stuff, I can't believe we have to wait so long for more D:

[Smithy]

we probably will never find out who killed them, this show is so messy i hate myself for watching it

[Smithy]

How could Mona have just realized she didn't kill Ali, but Bethany instead? Did she just forget about hitting some girl in the head when she picked up Ali LATER THAT NIGHT and took her to the motel? THIS SHOW IS SUCH A MESS

[Smithy]

This is getting a lot of RTs.

"How did ALI AND TOBY HAVE A SCENE WITH MARION...but Cece was a CHILD when Marion was pushed off the roof...That would mean Toby was a child when Marion died but YET we have a flashback of MARION with TOBY AT around 15!?! Haha what a joke!?
https://twitter.com/PLLfreaks13/status/631274551322652672


I'm screaming this show is such trash I'm not watching again

[LukeB]

Sara being red coat :umm2: I was hoping for Melissa or someone who was introduced in the older seasons. It's annoying that we still do not know who killed Mrs D and Ian.

[LukeB]

Wait, look at

Vanessa Ray's(cece)

Twitter, the profile pictute.. How long have they had that as a profile picture for?

[Ninastar]

oh my god. that ep... oh my god.

[Smithy]

Wait, look at

Vanessa Ray's(cece)

Twitter, the profile pictute.. How long have they had that as a profile picture for?
Years :laugh:

[Smithy]

Questions that Marlene decided to answer on EW rather than put in the ****ing episode

Who killed Ian? (Season 2, Episode 4)
MARLENE KING: Ian killed himself but Mona staged the note and the crime scene.

Who was responsible for killing Garrett and putting Aria in a box with his dead body? (Season 3, Episode 13)
Wilden. Garrett found out that Wilden was a dirty cop and was going to tell. [Wilden] was acting on his own.”

Who shot Ezra when he showed up in New York to protect the Liars? (Season 4, Episode 24)
That was Shana.

Who killed Wilden? (Season 4, Episode 1)
CeCe.

Who nearly killed Jason in the elevator at his father’s apartment building? (Season 3, Episode 19)
That was Charlotte. When Charlotte gets mad, she sometimes acts out in very strong and harsh ways. I don’t think the intention was to kill Jason. It was definitely an impulsive act of revenge.

If Ali saved Hanna from the Thornhill Lodge fire, who saved the other girls? (Season 3, Episode 24)
Sara Harvey! And the person who set the fire was Shana.

Who drove a car into Emily’s house? (Season 4, Episode 7)
That was Charlotte, [but] to quote Charlotte, “Nobody got hurt.”

Who kidnapped Emily, put her in a coffin, and chained her to a sawmill conveyer belt? (Season 4, Episode 12)
That was Charlotte. The PLLs were getting close to discovering Charlotte’s identity at that time, so that was a real “listen to me” kind of a moment.

Who blew up Toby’s house? (Season 5, Episode 5)
That was Charlotte. She was very mad. [Laughs] But no one got hurt! [She has] perfect timing. She’s a genius.

Who was responsible for kidnapping Mona and faking her death? (Season 5, Episode 12)
That was Charlotte.

Who knocked Jenna unconscious and left her to drown? (Season 4, Episode 9)
That was Charlotte because Jenna knew Ali was alive. That’s something we have not discussed on the show so that’s totally new information.

Whose body was in the barrel that the Liars found in a storage unit (and originally thought was Mona’s )? (Season 5, Episode 16)
Charlotte stole a cadaver from a medical school.

Who put snakes in Spencer’s dressing room? (Season 3, Episode 11)
Oh, Charlotte. Charlotte was very busy. [Laughs]

Who put finger bones in the girls’ wedding dresses at the fashion show? (Season 4, Episode 23)
Charlotte. I think Charlotte wanted you to think they were Bethany’s bones, but Charlotte has access to bodies and bones. Medical school corpses is what she has used occasionally on the show.

Who hit Bethany over the head?
That’s Mona. Melissa buried Bethany alive but Mona bashed her in the head with a shovel.

Who hit Ali over the head?
Charlotte, thinking she was hitting Bethany.

Who left a message in Hanna’s teeth? (Season 4, Episode 17)
Charlotte. That was very invasive, very creepy.

Who murdered Jessica DiLaurentis? (Season 4, Episode 24)
That is still a mystery. That’s the one thing we don’t solve when we give you all the [other] answers. But Charlotte buried Mrs. D.

[andybigbro]

I was a bit disappointed tbh :/

[LukeB]

Years :laugh:

:laugh:
It's because of the A behind them, thought it was recent :laugh:

[andybigbro]

Questions that Marlene decided to answer on EW rather than put in the ****ing episode

I'm glad I know this though. So thanks.

[andybigbro]

When is 6B? D:

[andybigbro]

Am I right in saying that A tormented he girls because they were happy Allison was gone and hen it just became addictive to mess with them? :conf2:

[Smithy]

When is 6B? D:
January
Am I right in saying that A tormented he girls because they were happy Allison was gone and hen it just became addictive to mess with them? :conf2:

Yep

[Liam-]

That episode though :flutter:

Ending on a cliffhanger though, how predictable :laugh:

Safe to say that Ali is either married or in some sort of hiding? considering she was writing a different name on the chalkboard?

[Will.]

What confused me is CeCe trangender or not? O does she just dress like a woman?

[andybigbro]

What confused me is CeCe trangender or not? O does she just dress like a woman?

Yeah she was charles

[andybigbro]

Oh I never say ur last part. Em I'm not sure

[Liam-]

I think she's transgender isn't she? I mean with all the money she has she'd be able to afford the actual transition

[Smithy]

Yeah, she was trans and I'm pretty sure Alison is married Liam

something someone found interesting was the surname she was writing on the board (Roller or whatever it was) was the surname of the doctor who diagnosed and treated mona :think:

What I'm guessing is Alison is pregnant with someone else's child and they're coming for her

[Liam-]

Have you seen the promo for 6x11?

[Liam-]

Yeah, she was trans and I'm pretty sure Alison is married Liam

something someone found interesting was the surname she was writing on the board (Roller or whatever it was) was the surname of the doctor who diagnosed and treated mona :think:

What I'm guessing is Alison is pregnant with someone else's child and they're coming for her

Rollins? was that the doctor? I didn't recognise it :laugh:

[Smithy]

Apparently, someone did some digging :joker:

Yeah the promo looks good (but then again they always do) can't believe Shower Harvey is back :bored:

[Liam-]

They're in a graveyard right? if it turns out that Sara killed Maya I s2g

[Natalie.]

I knew what happened before I watched and I didn't think I'd like the transgender twist to it but I loved the episode just because Vanessa Ray was amazing. I didn't like Shower Harvey being RC and BW, disappointed in that really, couldn't she have got killed or something?

I loved Mona's shoes :laugh:

and I hope this tweet is correct :hee:
Julian Morris ‏@Ju1ianMorris 9h9 hours ago
So, I’m not Charles. But I will get up to mischief in #HandofGod. And I promise, Wren will be back before PLL is out.

[Natalie.]

They're in a graveyard right? if it turns out that Sara killed Maya I s2g

Read that it might be Emily's Dad dying but that's just people guessing

[Lostie!]

I expected to be disappointed when I checked the episode score on IMDB and it was on like 6.8, there had been an anti "CeCe is A" sentiment on there so when I saw that I knew it had to be her. And then when I went to watch the episode, the bloody episode still that displayed before I played the video was CeCe in a black hood, which kind of gave it away. :laugh:

Definitely disappointed, not just in CeCe as Charles but Sara as Red Coat / Black Widow. That said, Vanessa was brilliant and I'm just happy to finally know. :laugh:

[Liam-]

Read that it might be Emily's Dad dying but that's just people guessing

Oh, that's alright then :hee:

[Liam-]

I expected to be disappointed when I checked the episode score on IMDB and it was on like 6.8, there had been an anti "CeCe is A" sentiment on there so when I saw that I knew it had to be her. And then when I went to watch the episode, the bloody episode still that displayed before I played the video was CeCe in a black hood, which kind of gave it away. :laugh:

Definitely disappointed, not just in CeCe as Charles but Sara as Red Coat / Black Widow. That said, Vanessa was brilliant and I'm just happy to finally know. :laugh:

Same! but luckily I thought the still was Sara so I was still surprised :joker:

[Natalie.]

One of the best bits

http://31.media.tumblr.com/104dd5015cb914853d1dd0678325b8de/tumblr_inline_nsy6d8jfgY1r685oj_500.gif

[Lostie!]

One of the best bits

http://31.media.tumblr.com/104dd5015cb914853d1dd0678325b8de/tumblr_inline_nsy6d8jfgY1r685oj_500.gif

:joker:

Ugh, most of the time spent theorising who Black Widow / Red Coat were was pointless because it was someone we didn't even know for most of the time. That's my pet peeve in mysteries. :fist:

I'm not over the moon with CeCe as A, but Sara as Red Coat and Black Widow is miles worse. We saw her once in a picture mid season 4 (and not even the girl who would end up playing her!) and didn't meet her properly as a character until this season. :hmph:

As for "every question is answered". And then Marlene admits in an interview that they left Mrs D's death for a further mystery (not to mention the other various loose ends). :joker:

I try to defend showrunners when fans are getting arsey with them, but to flat-out deceive a loyal fanbase (and tbh the PLL fanbase has to be one of the most loyal). Ugh.

[Liam-]

Are you just pissed that it wasn't Wren? :hehe:

[Lostie!]

Are you just pissed that it wasn't Wren? :hehe:

Definitely disappointed it wasn't Wren, but no, the bulk of my annoyance with the episode is with the things I just mentioned. :hee:

[Will.]

CeCe looked different

[Liam-]

Definitely disappointed it wasn't Wren, but no, the bulk of my annoyance with the episode is with the things I just mentioned. :hee:

I was joking, don't get pissy :fist:

[Lostie!]

I was joking, don't get pissy :fist:

But the pissy face is my favourite. :hee:

On a positive note, Mona being the one who attacked Bethany was a cool twist I didn't anticipate. I loved seeing Wilden again too. :)

[Natalie.]

https://twitter.com/PLLfreaks13/status/631274551322652672

[Natalie.]

:joker:

Ugh, most of the time spent theorising who Black Widow / Red Coat were was pointless because it was someone we didn't even know for most of the time. That's my pet peeve in mysteries. :fist:

I'm not over the moon with CeCe as A, but Sara as Red Coat and Black Widow is miles worse. We saw her once in a picture mid season 4 (and not even the girl who would end up playing her!) and didn't meet her properly as a character until this season. :hmph:

As for "every question is answered". And then Marlene admits in an interview that they left Mrs D's death for a further mystery (not to mention the other various loose ends). :joker:

I try to defend showrunners when fans are getting arsey with them, but to flat-out deceive a loyal fanbase (and tbh the PLL fanbase has to be one of the most loyal). Ugh.

Yeah, I agree with all of this really. Have you seen reddit?

[Lostie!]

https://twitter.com/PLLfreaks13/status/631274551322652672

Bloody hell. :facepalm: :joker:

[Lostie!]

Yeah, I agree with all of this really. Have you seen reddit?

Yeah, I'm browsing on there and IMDB atm. :laugh:

Oh, the episode's gone down from 6.8 to 6.6 on IMDB now. :whistle:

[Natalie.]

Yeah, I'm browsing on there and IMDB atm. :laugh:

Oh, the episode's gone down from 6.8 to 6.6 on IMDB now. :whistle:

I'm just going to look now, oops nobody is happy really..understandably
The only reason I loved it was because of Vanessa, I wish they'd gone a different route with it.

When they were talking about Crashing the car into Emily's house and freezing Spencer and Aria all I could think of was this;
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7f/81/27/7f81273e77368794b57ea979b3fc2327.jpg

[Lostie!]

I'm just going to look now, oops nobody is happy really..understandably
The only reason I loved it was because of Vanessa, I wish they'd gone a different route with it.

When they were talking about Crashing the car into Emily's house and freezing Spencer and Aria all I could think of was this;
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7f/81/27/7f81273e77368794b57ea979b3fc2327.jpg

Yeah, I'm definitely disappointed with the resolution but Vanessa was great. :)

:joker: CeCe being like "I'd never put them in real danger".

[Natalie.]

Yeah, I'm definitely disappointed with the resolution but Vanessa was great. :)

:joker: CeCe being like "I'd never put them in real danger".

:laugh:

Jason needs to take tests on every girl before he kisses them to check if they're related

[Lostie!]

:laugh:

Jason needs to take tests on every girl before he kisses them to check if they're related

Oh god yeah, I didn't realise he'd dated two of his sisters. :joker:

[Liam-]

I hope we find out how that vile of blood got into Spencer's bag at some point.

Also, Mona remains iconic, if she's not in the jump forward it'll be awful, her knife-shoe >>

[Will.]

I guess they couldn't be bothered to get younger actors in the Alison/Toby flashback

[Will.]

Did Mona have any idea that it was CeCe?

[Lostie!]

I guess they couldn't be bothered to get younger actors in the Alison/Toby flashback

If they intended Alison and Toby to be significantly younger in that scene, they'd have used younger actors. They just didn't plan the resolution in advance.

[Natalie.]

This scene though, honestly.. :laugh:

http://i.imgur.com/KnKqXJx.jpg

[Lostie!]

This scene though, honestly.. :laugh:

http://i.imgur.com/KnKqXJx.jpg

:joker:

Guess we'll never know who what all the shady Wren stuff was about. "I'll take care of my end, you take care of yours'". :suspect:

About Sara, did CeCe ever abduct her or was she always working for her? At least we'll probably get answers about that since Sara's confirmed post-time jump.

[Liam-]

I read a theory on tumblr that maybe Cece did actually abduct Sara, but developed Stockholm's sort of and did Cece's bidding for her when she was asked hence Cece's 'when I let her' line but idk, they purposely left the who killed Mrs D? answer out of the finale so it's easy to assume that there's still way more answers to come in 6B

[Smithy]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/game-fcking-over#.paLXkGKAkn

Pretty much sums up everything, the fact that Wilden is only a couple of years older than Cece yet he managed to be a cop who was paid off to cover up Marion's death :laugh2:

[Will.]

Did CeCe ever ever officially be discarded from Radley?

[Smithy]

Ratings are in!


Tuesday’s “Pretty Little Liars” summer finale was the most-watched episode since the March 2014 season four finale. The revealing episode garnered a whopping 1.39 adults 18-49 rating with 3.087 million total viewers.


Welp here comes season 8 I guess :x

[andybigbro]

Ratings are in!



Welp here comes season 8 I guess :x

If you think about it that's **** compared to the amount of people in America

[Firewire]

Vanny Slay coming for Emmys

[Firewire]

If you think about it that's **** compared to the amount of people in America

ABC Family is a cable network, it's actually really good in comparison to how many people watch that network

[Will.]

good for USA I think, shows don't get millions in the states do they?

3 million in the USA is like a show in the UK getting 600k.

[Will.]

They've released a promo for season 6B, looks good, Emily is at a grave yard with Sara! Maybe she was the one who took her there in s3 ep1.

[Smithy]

If you think about it that's **** compared to the amount of people in America

ABC Family is a cable network, it's actually really good in comparison to how many people watch that network
Yeah, pretty much what Jonathan said, plus most shows on abcfamily's ratings are around the 800k - 1.2m mark
good for USA I think, shows don't get millions in the states do they?

3 million in the USA is like a show in the UK getting 600k.

Yes they do :joker: American idol regularly gets over 12million viewers, it's just that ABCF is a cable channel so not everyone has it

[Smithy]

ALSO

Quote:
What happened to Charlotte after she declared “game over”? Is that something we learn post-time jump?

MK: Yes, you do. We actually shot a scene that Annabeth Gish [who plays the role of Dr. Sullivan] was in with Charlotte, Jason [Drew Van Acker] and Ali. We had to drop it because we ran out of time. But in that scene, it is Jason and Alison visiting Charlotte in a nothing-like-Radley sanitarium. It’s a wonderful place for people who need mental health assistance.
ugh I want to see this


This being cut :fist:

[Will.]

What also doesn't make sense is Jessica's death, A sent the girls a message with a picture of Jessica dead saying "I buried her, like I'm going to bury you - A". - Something very similar to that.

Why would CeCe send the girls that? When she loved her mother? But then Jessica sent someone the message "I can't protect you anymore" - So maybe CeCe was lying?

I really can't believe that they decided CeCe was A in series 3, seems like last min decison.

[Firewire]

Cece buried Jessica though...

[Will.]

Cece buried Jessica though...

True, but it seems odd considering she loved her.

[Lostie!]

It's definitely odd, it's just another thing that makes very little sense. CeCe's whole supposed motivation for going after the four girls was because they were apparently happy that Alison was gone and that made her mad, and she continued because the game was addictive.

How does sending a cruel, mocking message to the sister she apparently dearly loves about the murder of their mother who she apparently also dearly loved fit in?

[Liam-]

I think over 6B we'll see that Sara probably played more of a part in it all that what's being let on.

[Lostie!]

I think over 6B we'll see that Sara probably played more of a part in it all that what's being let on.

If they want to make it even worse, I'm sure that will happen. :facepalm:

I never actually disliked Sara like other viewers seemed to, but making her Red Coat and Black Widow (two figures who were built up to be integral parts of the mystery and who I hoped were people we actually knew for a while) was just frustrating as hell.

[Will.]

in the season 6B trailer she is seen at a grave yard with Emily

[Will.]

OXtxCGvBdrw

[Natalie.]

http://pll-215-owls-b26-paris.tumblr.com/post/126560400429/i-made-a-more-accurate-script-since-they-were

[Lostie!]

Omg I saw that earlier, it's brilliant. :joker:

[Smithy]

I'm guessing Cece sent Alison the text about burying her mum to keep her in rosewood again, im guessing it was Cece Mrs D was sending the I can't protect you anymore email, but I'm not really sure what'd it be about now seeing as it wasn't Cece that killed her :conf2:

[Will.]

Big Rhonda should have been A, I wonder how she is, was this anyone face reaction before the rage kicked in whilst watching the finale?

http://cdn2-www.afterellen.com/assets/uploads/2014/07/PLL508-2.png

[Will.]

Paige and Lucas are returning for season 6B.

[LukeB]

Paige returning for season 6B.

oh god D: ew please no

[Lostie!]

Jenna apparently is too, and Melissa 100% is because she posted a picture from set some weeks ago. :)

[LukeB]

Melissa :love:

[Will.]

perched for Melissa being revealed as the real Black Widow...

[Lostie!]

Should have been back in 6x10 as the Black Widow tbh, but I'm just happy she's returning in 6B. :love:

[Lostie!]

Lmao snap Will.

[LukeB]

Melissa would have been the perfect Black Widow tbh

[LukeB]

Sara being both Red Coat/Black Widow was disappointing, if you think of it, Sara suits Red Coat more than Black Widow whilst Melissa suits Black Widow.

[Will.]

I can understand Sara as Red Coat, but not pleased about Black Widow as well, although it was obvious they were the same person as black widows masked was burnt.

[Will.]

Why is also a little confusing, is Charles in the dollhouse! There's no way they could have been CeCe at the prom, that was defo a male.

She must have hired someone.

I love how when we saw A at the junk yard with Aria and Clark it was a women with blond hair, so obvious looking back.

http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/528/8fa3bbd0-e604-0132-4659-0ebc4eccb42f.gif?

[Lostie!]

Have you seen that fan made edit of Wren and Melissa as Charles and Black Widow?

http://40.media.tumblr.com/7cf648f210d9bfa13e3a6baa3d4146f6/tumblr_nt0aysEizL1sm1smzo1_500.png

[Will.]

Have you seen that fan made edit of Wren and Melissa as Charles and Black Widow?

http://40.media.tumblr.com/7cf648f210d9bfa13e3a6baa3d4146f6/tumblr_nt0aysEizL1sm1smzo1_500.png

Even though Wren and Melissa wouldn't have been surprising, it would have been so interesting and creepy.

[LukeB]

Have you seen that fan made edit of Wren and Melissa as Charles and Black Widow?

http://40.media.tumblr.com/7cf648f210d9bfa13e3a6baa3d4146f6/tumblr_nt0aysEizL1sm1smzo1_500.png

:flutter:

[Lostie!]

I just can't believe we spent all that time theorising over the Black Widow and believing she was a huge part of the mystery, then she turns out to be this character we didn't even properly meet until two seasons later (sorry but the fact she appeared as a photo on a computer screen in the latter half of Season 4 isn't much of a consolation).

[LukeB]

I guess I'm not that annoyed as I only waited 7 months compared to those who waited 5 years, that's how long you spend at High School

[Lostie!]

I'd be annoyed by an unsatisfactory resolution to a mystery even if I binged the entire thing in one go. The reveal can make or break the entire story for me. :laugh:

[LukeB]

your sig makes a perfect black widow :whistle:

[Will.]

I think Marion coming back from the dead and being Black Widow would have been amazing, and helping CeCe after feeling guilty for what Bethany put CeCe through.

And Marion was the one who drowned Jenna for what he put Toby through.

I quite liked the Mona twist with her hitting Bethany.

[Smithy]

6x11 death spoiler

Cece gets murdered :bawling::bawling:

:(:(:(

[Will.]

omg lol, thats sad. I take it that will be the next big mystery, who killed CeCe, or maybe its the next stalker killing her.

[Smithy]

Wow just spoil that for everyone :umm2:

[Liam-]

Yep, thanks for that one will :joker:

[andybigbro]

Will :fist:

I've edited your post with a spoiler tag. I edit smithys by mistake but changed it back.

[Will.]

omg Im so sorry! I apologise, I completely forgot about spoilers. :hehe:

[Will.]

you have permission to kill me

[Natalie.]

Oh I hope that's not true

[andybigbro]

For anyone disapointed with CeCe being A. This video made it a lil better for me

http://youtu.be/XIv54Zr5G5o

[Liam-]

I love CeCe being A and all these videos pointing out the clues/evidence throughout the show just confirms for me that it was always going to be CeCe :flutter:

[Lostie!]

I do think they planned it to be CeCe (but they threw potential clues towards various characters to make various viable suspects), but planning this for years just makes the continuity errors in the finale even worse.

On a better note, I'm glad A won the villain award at the Teen Choice awards and I love that Vanessa was there on the night, she was great and deserves her recognition for it. :)

[Smithy]

not sure how true it is but i'll put it in spoilers anyway

All 3 couples will have broken up by 6x11 and Hanna is engaged to a new guy

[Smithy]

There's a new intro when the show stars again :amazed:

[Firewire]

not sure how true it is but i'll put it in spoilers anyway

All 3 couples will have broken up by 6x11 and Hanna is engaged to a new guy

the fumes from the fans if this is true

[Firewire]

Don't expect Julian Morris back any time soon

"As much as I was loving going to set every day, I wasn’t necessarily doing the work that I initially sought out when I first began acting, the kind that made me want to be actor. The reason I so loved acting was working with incredible directors. And so, I thought if I didn’t take a break from PLL and give myself a fresh start, I’d always have those shows as a crutch. So, I did that and it was the best thing. [...] A script came around called Kelly + Victor; a small little British movie, next to nothing budget, but the script was exceptional, the character was awesome. It scared me, it challenged me, and it was everything I was looking to do. [...] We did the movie and then it ended up winning a BAFTA."

[Smithy]

The poor Wren is A stans :hee:

[Lostie!]

Not really, any Wren is A hopes ended with that finale. :hee:

[Natalie.]

He'll be back!

[Lostie!]

He'll be back!

Tbh as much as I'd like him back on a shallow level (because :drool:), my main interest in him as a character was the possibility of him being A. Unless he's being set up as this new bad guy (which I doubt tbh), I'm significantly less bothered about whether he returns or not. :whistle:

And there's still Hand of God for a Julian / mystery fix. :laugh: :hee:

[Natalie.]

Tbh as much as I'd like him back on a shallow level (because :drool:), my main interest in him as a character was the possibility of him being A. Unless he's being set up as this new bad guy (which I doubt tbh), I'm significantly less bothered about whether he returns or not. :whistle:

And there's still Hand of God for a Julian / mystery fix. :laugh: :hee:

I want him back either way :laugh:

[Smithy]

http://ow.ly/TbKSe New intro

[Jessica.]

:joker: bit silly to change it so slightly

[LukeB]

:flutter:

Much better, I prefer Emily doing the shh than Aria

[Smithy]

:joker: bit silly to change it so slightly

Ik, marlene said they were all gonna doing a shhh so maybe each ep it'll be a different liar?

[LukeB]

Ik, marlene said they were all gonna doing a shhh so maybe each ep it'll be a different liar?

tbh it should have been like that anyway, Just Aria doing it was annoying because she isn't even that good of a character imo

[Marsh.]

Don't expect Julian Morris back any time soon

"As much as I was loving going to set every day, I wasn’t necessarily doing the work that I initially sought out when I first began acting, the kind that made me want to be actor. The reason I so loved acting was working with incredible directors. And so, I thought if I didn’t take a break from PLL and give myself a fresh start, I’d always have those shows as a crutch. So, I did that and it was the best thing. [...] A script came around called Kelly + Victor; a small little British movie, next to nothing budget, but the script was exceptional, the character was awesome. It scared me, it challenged me, and it was everything I was looking to do. [...] We did the movie and then it ended up winning a BAFTA."

What a snobby pretentious twot

[Firewire]

They're alternating it every episode apparently

[Natalie.]

First 4 minutes of 6B
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[Smithy]

Jesus that green screen for Spencer was terrible :joker:

[andybigbro]

When is it back? Is it January? D:

[Firewire]

Yes when ABC Family is rebranded Freeform

[Will.]

Those screen effects are terrible.

[Smithy]

(Silent) preview http://pllupdatesonig.tumblr.com/post/130847602202/heres-the-fiveyearsforward-promo-that-was-playing

It looks really good! the girls going back to the dollhouse :omgno:

[Will.]

(Silent) preview http://pllupdatesonig.tumblr.com/post/130847602202/heres-the-fiveyearsforward-promo-that-was-playing

It looks really good! the girls going back to the dollhouse :omgno:

Looks amazing!

Why would they go back to the dollhouse?

Maybe for more answers?

:conf:

[Natalie.]

What's happening with Emily, looks like she's in some kind of hospital?

[Smithy]

Looks amazing!

Why would they go back to the dollhouse?

Maybe for more answers?

:conf:

not too sure but (actual spoiler) Cece gets killed so maybe it's to go back to look for clues to do with her murder

[Will.]

not too sure but (actual spoiler) Cece gets killed so maybe it's to go back to look for clues to do with her murder

OMG!

Could be the same person that murdered Mrs D.

[andybigbro]

I really want to go the the convention in Paris in 2016 :laugh:

[Will.]

Back on November 24th with a special

[Will.]

The special in November is a flashforward episode showing what happens in the five year gap.

Should really help.

I found this video which is really good:
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[Lostie!]

Wrong link? :laugh:

[Will.]

Wrong link? :laugh:

yes lol, changed it :laugh:

[Natalie.]

Will that episode be on Netflix ?

[Will.]

Will that episode be on Netflix ?

I guess so, the epilogue episode in series 3 is on Netflix.

[Lostie!]

I just found out about a Turkish version. :laugh:

http://www.tvaktuel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/tatl%C4%B1-k%C3%BC%C3%A7%C3%BCk-yalanc%C4%B1lar-dizi-star.jpg

[LukeB]

are you going to watch it?

[Will.]

I just found out about a Turkish version. :laugh:

http://www.tvaktuel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/tatl%C4%B1-k%C3%BC%C3%A7%C3%BCk-yalanc%C4%B1lar-dizi-star.jpg

omg

[Lostie!]

are you going to watch it?

No. :laugh:

The first episode is on Youtube with subtitles for anyone who wanted to check it out but I don't know if any more are (the others seem to be but without subs).

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[Lostie!]

I love how it's so obvious which is which PLL. :laugh:

[LukeB]

No. :laugh:

The first episode is on Youtube with subtitles for anyone who wanted to check it out but I don't know if any more are (the others seem to be but without subs).

Uxv_OLeagsE

I'm going to show my friend this as she is turkish :laugh:

[Lostie!]

And on episode 2 you can see their version of the opening titles. :laugh:

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[Will.]

The bar in which the girls meet up in in the time jump is Radley I think.

In the book they turn Radley into a bar/restaurant.

[Will.]

There's a new trailer, looks so good! There definitely looks like there's another stalker/unknown person messing with them.

[Smithy]

Radley turns into a hotel in the show

[Smithy]

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It's the promo that aired at comic but with sound now

[Will.]

Apparently there will be a third A according to spoiler videos.

[LukeB]

Wasn't there an episode the other day

[Lostie!]

Not an episode, just a special with cast interviews etc. I didn't watch it though.

[LukeB]

oh :laugh:

[Will.]

Anyone know where you can watch the special episode.

PM if have a link :)

[andybigbro]

I'm so tempted to read the spoiler tags you guys have posted but I'm not gonna :smug:

I really cannot wait for this to start back :amazed:

[andybigbro]

Ahh I wanna go to the convention in Paris :sad:

[Will.]

https://abcfapps.blob.core.windows.net/pllposter/10.jpg?sv=2014-02-14&sr=b&sig=Qdq4UlaPN3X%2BXFfcqzIKep5uFHapWkHa%2BnYgy7ePhY g%3D&se=2015-12-15T19%3A46%3A25Z&sp=r

[Natalie.]

I love it :amazed:

[Will.]

same, they all look amazing :love:

[andybigbro]

Not long now! :amazed:

I cannot wait :D

[Smithy]

is it next thursday i don't even remember

did anyone watch the special btw?

[LukeB]

Not long now! :amazed:

I cannot wait :D

Comes on 2 days before my birthday :flutter:

[LukeB]

is it next thursday i don't even remember

did anyone watch the special btw?

Natalie told me 12th January

[Smithy]

oh ok, idk :hee:

[andybigbro]

On my Netflix is says 13th January.

I never saw the special. What was it about :shocked:

[LukeB]

On my Netflix is says 13th January.

I never saw the special. What was it about :shocked:

Oh, i thought it was 12th unless i read it wrong from Natalie :laugh:

I think it's been nearly a year since i've started this show :flutter:

[Smithy]

It was interviews with the cast and creators and stuff, don't think they revealed anything new but there was this scene in it, that was cut from the 6A finale

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and another one (i think; marlene said there would be) of jason, ali and charlotte with dr sullivan discussing things, that was also cut from the final, I'm looking for it now

[Smithy]

also did y'all see this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWSsCnYU4AA_ttF.jpg

slé

[LukeB]

:flutter: i never saw that

[andybigbro]

Looks epic :amazed:

[Lostie!]

Freeform sounds like an acne cream or something.

[andybigbro]

Freeform sounds like an acne cream or something.

I thought this! :laugh:

Why they even changing the name? :conf2:

[Smithy]

to appeal to a wider market i think, abc family makes it sound like a kids channel

[LukeB]

I'm so glad each girl gets to shhh at the end.. Aria only doing it was annoying me.

[andybigbro]

I'm so glad each girl gets to shhh at the end.. Aria only doing it was annoying me.

It made her appear to be the main character.

[LukeB]

It made her appear to be the main character.

I know, she one of them but i thought Spencer/Hannah were more main than her

[Raph]

Here's hoping the new season finally brings us Emison

[Natalie.]

Natalie told me 12th January

Oh I meant that's when it's on in America :laugh:

[LukeB]

Oh I meant that's when it's on in America :laugh:

oh :laugh: