Big Brother 17 Live Feed Discussion Thread

[JerseyWins]

Yeah nevermind, Austwins already talking about maybe taking Johnny Mac out instead of going after James if Becky wins POV. Sorry Becky, rooting against you this week. :hmph:

[Mystic Mock]

I can't believe that we've got a whole week of one of the stupid twins as HOH.

Seriously we'll lose a member of ADC (or affiliated members) staged Twin segments, and staged Liz and Austin segments.:yuk:

After two weeks of this series coming out of the gutter, it's gonna be going right back into it.

[JerseyWins]

This season has been great throughout but it might come down to a pretty anti-climactic finish at this rate. ADC shot themselves in the foot like they basically have all season. Getting terribly outplayed & outperformed in comps. This is going to be so hard for them to come back from unless Johnny Mac ends up going this week... it'll take 2-3 HOH's just to get back in a fair battle now.

[iRyan]

I hope Jackie comes back for the returning twist

[AarynGriesfan]

I laughed so hard when Jackie got evicted in the double serves her right for being stupid.

[LemonJam]

I laughed so hard when Jackie got evicted in the double serves her right for being stupid.

elaborate please.

[AarynGriesfan]

elaborate please.

Vanessa is going to win this season now and it's all their fault really so they deserve to go home one by one now.

[JerseyWins]

If Becky goes, Vanessa could win the season if she rallies up a side against Austwins. If Johnny Mac goes then Vanessa is probably screwed.

Even Austin & the twins are against Vanessa now as of last night.

And I just saw that Johnny Mac became the main target last night. :omgno:

[Ross.]

Vanessa is going to win this season now and it's all their fault really so they deserve to go home one by one now.

...yes, because that really elaborated on how Jackie was stupid like LJ asked lmao

[Ross.]

ergh at the Liz HoH. :bored:

Vanessa and Austin gliding through to next week now. :omgno:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa is going to win this season now and it's all their fault really so they deserve to go home one by one now.

James was responsible for it more than anyone, one of ADC would've gone home regardless because Steve is a hoe puppet, and Shelli had one of the worst campaigns ever and gave no reason for people to keep her.

[JerseyWins]

I don't think a single person is actually on Vanessa's side right now, not even her own alliance. But she might be saved if that big group of 5 wins another HOH or two and then the remaining side are almost forced to go after the big trio of Austwins instead of her if they want a chance to win. In this case she'll float right to the end.

[JerseyWins]

LMAO... Vanessa just said she swears on her mother about something she's telling Johnny Mac and then Johnny turns around and points to the camera saying "they got that"... essentially saying he thinks she's full of ****. :laugh3:

(I think Vanessa is telling the truth about whatever this is though but who knows)

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm cackling so hard at this via Jokersupdates

Vanessa offers to go up & talk to Austwins for him. JMac: "No. I don't care." Vanessa: "But you SHOULD care!" JMac says he knows he's going up - let's just leave it at that. He tries to leave but Vanessa says, "Let's talk."

JMac sighs and sits down. Vanessa: "Let me help you in this game." Vanessa starts telling him anti-Becky things & making him promise not to tell what they talk about.

Steve ducks his head in: "Should I come in? What should I do?"

Vanessa says this has nothing to do with him. He says "OK" and ducks back out.

Vanessa asks Johnny Mac if he wants her help on how to improve his game. He grunts. She starts telling him how.

[reece(:]

Vanessa is becoming Audrey 2.0

[Macie Lightfoot]

John: I don't like when you cry and yell at people
Vanessa: I don't like it when I cry either

[JerseyWins]

Omg that convo between Vanessa & Johnny Mac was so awkward/funny. :joker:

Johnny Mac should have just bull****ted her rather than telling her any truth smh. Not that I think it matters for him this week anyway as he's most likely the target regardless. :(

[JerseyWins]

John: I don't like when you cry and yell at people
Vanessa: I don't like it when I cry either
I can't believe that conversation ended like that. :joker:

[Headie]

Lol bye Johnny Mac, about damn time too.

Only reading updates on this show now until Queen Jackie returns <3

[Macie Lightfoot]

Becky and John nominated, twins are drinking wine and talking **** about how Liz is controlling Austin <3

[Macie Lightfoot]

Liz: What is Austin doing???
Julia: Liz, please! It's twin time and you can't even stop thinking about him :rolleyes:
Liz: He's making my ****ing food!

--

OMFG

Liz: America, if [John]'s your favorite, ou need to know he is the most basic boring player ever. Like, I don't even know what he's doing here

:joker::joker::joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa's afraid that John will attack her in the middle of the night O_O

[Macie Lightfoot]

Freaks and Geeks have officially become THE SCAMPER SQUAD and production told Steve in the DR that they love the name.

I really ****ing hate this show sometimes.

Also, this is exactly like the Quack Pack with Steve being Ian (surprise.) A fake alliance to keep the weirdo in line and then the DR going with the fake alliance's name.

[Moosething]

Have the nominations been made yet?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Becky and John

[jennyjuniper]

If John goes, I don't really care who wins. I will want to keep watching, in case he comes back though. Liz has a nerve saying John is boring. She and her twin do nothing except eat and con Austin into thinking he means something to Liz. No sympathy for him though.

[JerseyWins]

Lmao @ the name "Scamper Squad." :joker: (mainly in a bad way but at the same time I kinda like it)

I want Johnny to win veto really badly but it would be kinda bitter sweet if Becky goes home. Also I'd love for Vanessa to get backdoored due to her over-paranoia, not that it'd ever happen. But I even have mixed feelings on that because then Austwins might be in trouble the next week. They're smart to not put Vanessa up (well kinda common sense tbh) but it would be SOOOO great to see.

[Macie Lightfoot]

If John goes, I don't really care who wins. I will want to keep watching, in case he comes back though. Liz has a nerve saying John is boring. She and her twin do nothing except eat and con Austin into thinking he means something to Liz. No sympathy for him though.

And John does nothing except read cue cards in a fake voice in the DR

[JTM45]

My interest in this season left along with Jackie!
I just can't fathom how some people think this is a great Season!!!? I think it's been dreadful personally and i think it's just gonna' carry on downhill.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Seems like Steve, Austin, and Meg were drawn for POV.

[AarynGriesfan]

Seems like Steve, Austin, and Meg were drawn for POV.

That's a good draw for Johnny Mac. I hope he wins the veto and saves himself!

[Macie Lightfoot]

Comp was OTEV. Liz and Austin were the last two and Liz won. John was first out so either he threw it like he said he would earlier or he just sucked. Becky apparently tried to knock things out of Austin's hands and shove him :joker::joker::joker:

Austin sucks and Liz is definitely the worse twin BUT at least they explained everything to the feeders. Comp was themed around butter rolls? Meg came in third :joker: Becky was eliminated on Clay's question, Austin on Jace's (which referenced him being erased from the Memory Wall :joker:), Meg on Da'Vonne's. Becky's upset because she was the first one to get it on the second round and ran up the ramp immediately when she should've spent more time looking for other items since she couldn't find Clay's.

Sounds like the elimination order was John-Steve-Becky-Meg-Austin-Liz.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Austin and Liz's HOHitis is through the roof, talking about how it's their co-POV and how now Becky NEEDS to go because since she body-checked Austin (:joker:) that means that she doesn't trust them. So basically, because the nominee was trying to play in the POV and didn't trust the HOH who nominated them, they have to go. The **** :rolleyes:

[Calderyon]

My interest in this season left along with Jackie!
I just can't fathom how some people think this is a great Season!!!? I think it's been dreadful personally and i think it's just gonna' carry on downhill.

It´s been OK/quite goodish at most, but still better than the horribleness of that was last season.

[reece(:]

If Becky goes RIP this season.

[Calderyon]

I think John will probably go.

They´ll most likely leave Becky there to be Vanessa´s #1 target and vice versa. Cause those two will never work together.

[AarynGriesfan]

If Becky goes RIP this season.

We went 7 episodes in a row without a Becky confessional the season can definitely survive a Becky eviction.

[Calderyon]

I guess Becky is going now, Liz seems to have decided so.

[Macie Lightfoot]

it's been Becky since the nominations were made but maybe it'll change. Becky and John are pretty much serving the same function in the house so it's a toss up

[Macie Lightfoot]

Julia is hounding into Liz for her inappropriate hickeys from Austin <33333

[Macie Lightfoot]

Meanwhile, Vanessa's crying bc she feels completely alone and thinks she might be getting backdoored bc Steve is acting weird about previous BB seasons.

"I've been reading the Bible all day, which is boring as ****!!!"

[JerseyWins]

Lately when I put on feeds there's nothing happening or they're all playing a game or something. What's going on with that... did they start talking game at a different time in the day now? Usually the late night feeds are a whole lot of game talk and drama. :shrug:

[JerseyWins]

Nevermind, just bad timing. Some people talking now. Apparently there's still a whole lot of hating Vanessa going on. That's good. :joker:

Johnny Mac still safe as of now. :worry:


(nope that was just a quick talk, back to nothing)

[AarynGriesfan]

Nevermind, just bad timing. Some people talking now. Apparently there's still a whole lot of hating Vanessa going on. That's good. :joker:

Johnny Mac still safe as of now. :worry:


(nope that was just a quick talk, back to nothing)

I think this is just a boring week. They seem pretty set on Becky going home so no need for game talk I guess.

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's definitely a more tame week because Becky and John have both pretty much given up and Liz doesn't overthink things like literally every other HOH this season.

And in case anyone's interested, Austin apparently fingered Liz and then just ran some water over his hands and then went to cook without actually washing them or anything

[Macie Lightfoot]

So John City and Steve want to align with Austwins :rolleyes: Steve wants to include Vanessa, John doesn't.

So Austwins basically have final five agreements with every single person and nobody's suspicious at all. I really don't get it at all.

[Braden]

I've come to see that the twins being final 2 is actually a great concept.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I would LOVE a twinnie F2 and I think there's a legitimate shot at it. Austwins are easily in the best positions right now and I don't even understand how, but whatever. A Julia win would definitely be the most palatable option for me, and I do think she's werking her social game pretty well, but I'd be afraid that people would just look at Liz's comp wins and vote for her to win :rolleyes:

[Macie Lightfoot]

John and Steve are up in the HOH Room trying to get their Austwins alliance on. Steve's transparently trying to include Vanessa in it, and like, why? You're about to be in F8 and you're making a six-person alliance with every single person you're already nominally aligned with. What's the point?

Everyone's onto Vanessa though, everyone's been throwing shade at her in this convo :joker: Twins apparently said that they'll throw HOH to John so he can get Vanessa out.

[Macie Lightfoot]

So Austwins have separate F5s with James/Meg and Steve/John and have convinced the pairs to go after each other and save Vanessa for later. This is so bizarre.

[Calderyon]

Liz would definitely win against Julia.

Well... at this point at least. Plenty of game to be played.

[Slevin]

most boring week this season. oh well. all the others were good to me.

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's just boring because John and Becky have pretty much given up at this point and were resigned to the fact that one of them was going, and Liz doesn't change her mind every 10 minutes about what she wants to do. Still lightyears better than where we were last year at this time.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Julia and Meg were forced to interrupt this

http://i.imgur.com/cZHzynO.gif

bc Steve was taking a giant **** downstairs

[LemonJam]

I can only imagine Megs gloriously animated face followed by drawn out "oh my gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooD" from Julia :love::love::love::love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

alol I mean they weren't interrupting that specific moment but you get the idea of it all. We also got these gr8 gifs to add to the collection of the "zoom in on Christine's wedding ring" ones from last year,

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Apparently John's talking to Steve and questioning why everyone talks **** about Vanessa but doesn't get her out, but then he told Steve that he'd nominate him if he was HOH? And he just told Steve that Shelli coming back would hurt their games but Jackie would side with them. He's an idiot and deserves to go hobe.

[Macie Lightfoot]

and another one, which is so gross that Imma put it in spoiler tags

http://33.media.tumblr.com/5cd541f58663109c37578cf1ab9a9ccc/tumblr_ntb3l8KQEq1rgkjp5o4_400.gif

[Calderyon]

Typical afternoon/night time on Finnish BB.

[JerseyWins]

Wow, Austin & Liz doing something in bed again..... This turned into a much more serious relationship pretty suddenly. :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

So Becky was given a cane for her toe infection and they're going to evict her and keep a well and able John... makes sense.

[Ross.]

Oh is Becky getting evicted then? :sad:

[LukeB]

Oh is Becky getting evicted then? :sad:

#SaveJohn :smug:

[Macie Lightfoot]

yup let's save John so he can continue to throw his game away and pander to people who couldn't give less of a **** about him what a good superfan xx

[Macie Lightfoot]

how much do we want to bet that they'll fish the whole comp even though the feeds say we can watch after the show

[JerseyWins]

Feeds are now up.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Julia's out second

[JerseyWins]

Wow this is a really long wait between the start of each race apparently. :joker:

And I think Vanessa got off the button too soon and is now eliminated?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Yeah it looks like Vanessa false started but it may have been Steve? Probably Vanessa. So yup a guy is predictably winning this comp

[Macie Lightfoot]

Julia said she hates her right hand so maybe she false started too?

[Macie Lightfoot]

lmfao @ them all running and then production having to tell them to make sure that they hit their buttons :joker: it looked like John was the slowest but who knows

[JerseyWins]

Sooooo this comp is awful to watch on feeds with all the in-between time. I'll just find out the results later. :idc:

[Macie Lightfoot]

John's out, yup.

[Macie Lightfoot]

7th: Meg (slowest)
6th: Julia (false start; left hand)
5th: Vanessa (false start)
4th: John (slowest)

Austin, James, and Steve left

[Macie Lightfoot]

Steve went out while Jeffish were on

7th: Meg (slowest)
6th: Julia (false start; left hand)
5th: Vanessa (false start)
4th: John (slowest)
3rd: Steve

Austin vs. James left

[Macie Lightfoot]

Austin beat James by a split second x_x

but lmfao @ Austin aligning with every single person this week and then winning HoH :joker: hopefully he Ronnie's himself

[Calderyon]

Not a good week to win an HOH tbh. Should have given it to James and let him take Vanessa out.

[Macie Lightfoot]

hefingerbangedme.gif

[Macie Lightfoot]

Steve and John are convinced that James/Meg will be nominated but Austin is telling the twins that he can't do that?

[Macie Lightfoot]

John didn't sprint his hardest bc everyone told him that they were throwing the comp to him :joker::joker::joker::joker::joker: he's such a ****ing idiot omfg

[Macie Lightfoot]

Liz: I just hope you don't get a letter from you know who.

PLEASE production pleaseeeeee

[AarynGriesfan]

Ugg first Liz wins and now Austin wins this season is really going to hell real fast :(

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa Abbate's latest conspiracy theory is that John is a professional clown <33333

[Macie Lightfoot]

I love how everything from Jason's boot week is still relevant <3 Vanessa's so going to regret just not getting rid of Austin

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa: *rambles about something that happened two weeks ago* so you see how that's rational, right?
Steve: ...no.

*Steve and Vanessa argue over being a pawn for like 15 minutes*
Vanessa: Can I have there minutes alone with you?
Austin: No more.

this bitch.

[Macie Lightfoot]

omfggggggggggggggggg Julia is FUHREAKING OUT bc she heard John SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS in the DR and he's never raised his voice in the house so this explains that he likes screamo music and he can't be a dentist bc that's not respectable and Austin wants to bring him up and be like WHY DO YOU ****ING SCREAM IN THE DR and Liz is just like "teehee he just thinks he's funny but he's not" and Julia is like I JUST FIGURED OUT THE TWIST

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:: joker::joker::joker: I loooooooooooove how production's need for a DR screamer is ****ing John over <3333

[Macie Lightfoot]

Julia: YOU GUYS HE WAS SCREAMING!! HE IS NOT WHO HE SAID! THERE'S A TWIST! I'M FREAKING OUT I COULD HEAR HIM!! I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN MY LIFE HE WAS SCREAMING HIS DR'S.... LIKE I'M SORRY! IF YOU'RE A DENTIST... YOU'RE NOT SCREAMING IN THE DIARY ROOM.

Austin: oh my god so now JOHN needs to go!!!

Julia: I HOPE YOU GUYS BELIEVE ME HE WAS SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS OH MY GOD I'M FREAKING OUT.

Austin: I'm gonna pull him up here right now and say why the fck do you scream in the diary room?

Julia: YOU GUYS PLEASE BELIEVE ME I AM NOT LYING HE WAS SCREAMING I'M SORRY THERE'S A TWIST THIS YEAR HE WAS SCREAMING. SCREAMING. WHY?! SCREAMING!!! OH MY GOD I'M FREAKING OUT PLEASE DON'T THINK I'M LYING! BOOM! I JUST FIGURED OUT THIS YEAR'S TWIST

[Macie Lightfoot]

and then Liz and Austin agree that Vanessa needs to go bc she keeps lying about wanting to backdoor Austin and then Julia just goes "You guys, NO. I'm sorry. Johnny Mac has to go THIS. WEEK."

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker: this season <3

[Macie Lightfoot]

Austin wants to backdoor Vanessa as Judas bc it'll be dramatic and the best moment in BB history, pretty much all because Meg suggested it :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

k so this week is either going to end in a Vanessa boot or a John boot and I'm A-OK with it <3333

[JerseyWins]

Going back through the feeds right now and just saw Julia/Liz/Austin talk about John's DR screaming. Damn that was funny. Julia's impersonation of him. :laugh3:

[Ross.]

Julia: YOU GUYS HE WAS SCREAMING!! HE IS NOT WHO HE SAID! THERE'S A TWIST! I'M FREAKING OUT I COULD HEAR HIM!! I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN MY LIFE HE WAS SCREAMING HIS DR'S.... LIKE I'M SORRY! IF YOU'RE A DENTIST... YOU'RE NOT SCREAMING IN THE DIARY ROOM.

Austin: oh my god so now JOHN needs to go!!!

Julia: I HOPE YOU GUYS BELIEVE ME HE WAS SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS OH MY GOD I'M FREAKING OUT.

Austin: I'm gonna pull him up here right now and say why the fck do you scream in the diary room?

Julia: YOU GUYS PLEASE BELIEVE ME I AM NOT LYING HE WAS SCREAMING I'M SORRY THERE'S A TWIST THIS YEAR HE WAS SCREAMING. SCREAMING. WHY?! SCREAMING!!! OH MY GOD I'M FREAKING OUT PLEASE DON'T THINK I'M LYING! BOOM! I JUST FIGURED OUT THIS YEAR'S TWIST

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[JerseyWins]

Evicting Johnny Mac might actually be best for Austwins' game. But I don't want it to happen. :worry:

[JerseyWins]

Vanessa just confused Liz as Julia and was like "Austin's gonna do whatever Liz wants" *wait what moment from Liz / awkward pause* "...wait which one are you?" :joker:

That'll almost definitely be on the show this week.

[JerseyWins]

Well, I think Johnny Mac is pretty screwed this week.

[Macie Lightfoot]

lmfao @ Jeffish as soon as Vanessa talks to Austin :joker: I guess this is what production wanted?

[Macie Lightfoot]

LMFAO Vanessa wins again. I can't with this bitch. Sounds like John and Steve were nominated :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Steve and Austin are talking about what qualifies as a superfan and superfans vs. historians. Raph and LukeB would be creaming themselves if they were watching

[jennyjuniper]

How stupid is Julia? WHY can't a dentist scream? If I spent all day poking about in people's mouths I'd feel like screaming too.
I hope there is some way that John is saved. Or that he comes back if he is voted out.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Well it's the fact that he's pretty much mute and super quiet in the house so I get why she's taken back by him screaming in his dumb wacky voices in the DR. It's a completely different character than the one he is in the house: a silent and useless hoe puppet to people who don't give a **** about him.

I don't think I've ever seen a fan favorite do so little before. I don't get it (I mean, I get it in that he's a str8 white male who screams in the DR and does wacky voices and **** so of course casuals lap that **** up, but still. So many people are projecting certain images onto John and he's nothing close to what people make him out to be.)

[Braden]

I personally think it's quite funny that now John's finally become apparent within the game, he's actually coming across quite unlikable.

[JerseyWins]

POV happening now? :worry:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Been going on for nearly 4 hours, another timed comp presume, better rig it for John or Steve to win and DR better push Austin more for a Vanessa back door.

[Macie Lightfoot]

LMFAO Vanessa won :joker: this ****ing bitch. aaaaaaaand it was the face morph comp which Vanessa was conveniently studying for like a day or two about :joker::joker::joker:

Meanwhile Meg's crying and having a meltdown bc she didn't recognize her own face and is afraid that she's going to look like a ditz on the show and whatnot :( she just one comp to not be a joke

[JerseyWins]

Vanessa will never get evicted. :facepalm:

RIP Johnny Mac :(

[karl100589]

LMFAO Vanessa won :joker: this ****ing bitch. aaaaaaaand it was the face morph comp which Vanessa was conveniently studying for like a day or two about :joker::joker::joker:

Meanwhile Meg's crying and having a meltdown bc she didn't recognize her own face and is afraid that she's going to look like a ditz on the show and whatnot :( she just one comp to not be a joke

If only we could now get the vote to flip and take out Steve

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm perfectly okay with a John City eviction ^_^ and a Steve one wouldn't really bother me anyway? Can't go wrong with this, the only thing that sucks is that Vanessa win POV means that Austin comes out of this week a lot cleaner than he should have.

[Braden]

I'll be pissed if John comes back though.

But then if it's a normal competition he'd probably want Becky to win more than himself :laugh:

[Donovan.]

yehs honestly so okay with John and Steve's games being ****ed after they should have been working together since Steve's double eviction win.

[AarynGriesfan]

Lol the one week I picked Meg in the suicide pool Vanessa is trying to get her evicted. If Vanessa can manage to get Austin to waste his HOH on Meg she definitely deserves to win.

[Macie Lightfoot]

ya apparently Vanessa and John **** have buried the hatchet and she's trying to build an anti-Austwins army. blegh, my favorite Vanessa is the paranoid outsider one who was melting down bc Becky slammed a door in her face. Not the Vanessa who gets her way and is bound to get a very generous edit on the show. Hopefully this bites her back in the ass and James and the returnee and whoever else can take her out

and ugh @ John City being safe he is soooooooo worthless omfg

[Macie Lightfoot]

The target is still changing every minute between Meg, James, John, and Steve. This is going to be a long week as usual

[Macie Lightfoot]

yay Austin doesn't buy what Vanessa's selling

[LukeB]

pray 4 john

[Macie Lightfoot]

pray 4 john to be evicted amirite

[LukeB]

No Save Johnny Mac
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2g13rzJWC1qf9mevo1_500.gif

[Macie Lightfoot]

true I'd love to see him sit around and talk to nobody and look miserable and do nothing for a tenth week

[LukeB]

http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/99d2f7e4.gif

Johnny Mac is a legend

[Macie Lightfoot]

legendarily boring and stupid mhmm

[LukeB]

http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/99d2f7e4.gif

you're wrong / you

[Macie Lightfoot]

I thought you weren't even watching this season anymore?

[LukeB]

i'm going to catch up tomorrow

[Macie Lightfoot]

how far behind?

[LukeB]

7 episodes :spin:

[JerseyWins]

Wait so is John still the target then or nah? :worry:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Honestly I have no idea. This is a huge mess.

[AarynGriesfan]

Wait so is John still the target then or nah? :worry:

Impossible to tell because Austin and the twins are the dumbest people in the world and can never make up their mind about anything.

[JerseyWins]

:joker: After the way they went about this week it feels like they have to evict Johnny Mac for their sake. However, I need Johnny Mac to stay. :fist:

Hopefully Steve doesn't try to align with Vanessa if Johnny Mac goes.

[JerseyWins]

Going back on the feeds a little bit and apparently Vanessa is bothered by Meg now. Meg cried after Vanessa won POV apparently... (idk why she would do that but lol :joker:) She's also pissed that Meg is hypocritical for not liking Vanessa asking for safety in exchange for a vote, when Meg apparently did that the week before. :joker:

I almost want Vanessa to win HOH next week. Vanessa's target might be Meg of all people and that's like the only way I could see Meg going before her inevitable 4th or 5th place finish.

[Macie Lightfoot]

she was crying bc her zing was how much she sucks at comps and she didn't recognize her own nose in the face morph and is upset that she's probably being portrayed as a complete joke

[JerseyWins]

Omg just started looking back at the feeds again from last night and they were playing hide & seek. Boring but glad I didn't skip through the entire thing because in one round Johnny Mac found a legendary hiding spot that took them forever to find him. :laugh3:

Johnny Mac even kills it in hide & seek. :worship: :joker:

[Braden]

Shame he's crap at playing Big Brother.

Not to mention how much of a vapid caricature he is.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa didn't use POV btw <3 bye bye J**** or Steve ^_^

Apparently a lot more **** happened that I missed and I'm trying to figure it out. I'll provide some updates when I get them myself

[JerseyWins]

Daaaamn, Liz & Julia can't stand Johnny Mac. Idk why they hate him so much. :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

He apparently said in the POV Meeting that Vanessa using the POV on him would be like a lion not eating a gazelle or something? IDK, it just sounds like he put on his fake as faux fur DR personality in a ceremony to the others bc he knew that it'd be on TV. It's the usual **** and the twins already hate his fake as faux fur DR personality.

[EspeonBB]

I want Steve to go this week because I'm afraid if Johnny Mac goes this week, Grodhog will rig him back in

[JerseyWins]

^ Needs to happen tbh.


It's actually pretty crazy that Vanessa has gotten her way with literally every eviction since Jeff. And pretty much everyone who has gone was in an argument with Vanessa pretty recently before their eviction.

[LukeB]

Has anyone won Pov?

[JerseyWins]

Vanessa won POV and didn't use it.

[LukeB]

I'm going to catch up tomorrow :worry:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I thought you were going to catch up today bab :(

[Macie Lightfoot]

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[reece(:]

Lmaoooo hate Steve so come thru Vanny <3

[reece(:]

Austin is such a condescending **** tho

[JerseyWins]

rCwJ8Rzt3aw
OMG :laugh3: But I feel bad for Steve in this case smh. :(

Got in a fight with Vanessa tho... RIP.

[JerseyWins]

So as of right now who's the target? I'm guessing still Johnny Mac anyway? I'm gonna go back and see more of what happened but as of now I'd say it kinda makes even more sense for Austin/Liz/Julia to keep Steve now but idk about James/Meg

[JerseyWins]

Oh wow just realized that whole thing happened BEFORE the POV ceremony. :joker:

[jennyjuniper]

rCwJ8Rzt3aw

Why are people like Steve so apologetic all the time. Why not just let rip and tell people exactly what you think of them? They will get put up regardless, so at least get some home truths out and clear the air anyway.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

So as of right now who's the target? I'm guessing still Johnny Mac anyway? I'm gonna go back and see more of what happened but as of now I'd say it kinda makes even more sense for Austin/Liz/Julia to keep Steve now but idk about James/Meg

Who the **** knows, Austwins change the target every 3 seconds, they are the worst. I just want someone to put them up next week. Id rather it be John after how the twins bashed him for no reason earlier today

[JerseyWins]

Ok so from what I can tell I think Steve is still the target but it's still really up for discussion. :shrug: (but the twins seem set on voting out Johnny Mac so it'd probably be unlikely to flip)

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I have no idea, like I said austwins change their minds every 3 seconds, one min "John has to go because all he eats is ceral", the next Steve has to go because he is after us, next time "oh wait steve is working with us, so John must go", next time "Steve is throwing us utb, he needs to go"

James and Meg also seem to be split, Meg wants Steve gone, while James wants John gone. For them John staying would be better because he is after Austwins and not them, Steve on the other hand would probably go after them.

I honestly think Vanessa would rather John stay, they have cleared the air, and he has been more upfront and honest with her then Steve has.

No doubt the votes will flip until thursday so either one might go.

[JerseyWins]

Ohhhhhhhh great, here come the waterworks from Vanessa as she's talking to Steve.

Steve had an argument with Vanessa and now he's in the middle of a conversation where she's crying. As a superfan he should know that means you go home this season. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

If this conversation starts going any worse I could see Steve ending up as the target soon enough whether that's from the whole house's votes or just Vanessa/James/Meg.

However, I feel like James & Meg wouldn't risk going against Austwins just to take out Steve so Vanessa will have to convince Liz & Julia who want John out baaadly.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

All someone has to do is point out that if Steve stays he would go after them (James and Meg) while John would go after AUstwins, plus with someone returning that is someone else on their side

[JerseyWins]

Yeah I saw from earlier that Austin/Vanessa/Liz actually said all of those things and also that if Jackie returns then Jackie/Steve will go after each other (prob not true tho) and if Shelli returns she'd be closer to Johnny Mac than them.

They see a lot more positives in keeping Steve but Vanessa is so pissed off at him that she might find a way to flip it somehow. :joker:

Edit: Oh nvm I see that you mean Meg & James I think. And yeah Vanessa could definitely easily put that idea in their heads if she wants Steve out badly enough.

[JerseyWins]

Straight up I'm not sure if I'd even feel safe in the same house as Vanessa for this long. She's sooo crazy.

Steve seems very safe now though after Freaks & Geeks are having a big group conversation now. Unless he manages to piss off Vanessa again maybe lol.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Johns only hope is to tell Vanessa steve told him about Freeks and Geeks

[JerseyWins]

Ohhhh that could be good. Steve told John that? :o

[JerseyWins]

For once I'd love to see a Steve monologue to the cameras just to know wtf he's thinking after all this. :joker:

[LemonJam]

James and Meg to flip and get Steve out as revenge and a Jackie/Becky return would be amazing

[Headie]

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Steve is pathetic, drag his stupid ass Vanny!

That's what he gets for making the dumbest move and evicting Jackie.

[Calderyon]

Can´t wait for Vanessa to leave. But this should tell Steve that he should have got Vanessa out on the double eviction.

[Raph]

So does it look like John is safe? Would be great to have him saved, evenm though it'll suck that it's at Steve's expense. Superfan sad times :(

[LukeB]

Can´t wait for Vanessa to leave. But this should tell Steve that he should have got Vanessa out on the double eviction.

I thought you liked Vanessa:laugh:

[MB.]

The Wiki page has, for some reason, Steve evicted and Jackie returning and winning HoH. Nobody's bothered to change it back. I like to see this as a sign.

[LukeB]

So does it look like John is safe? Would be great to have him saved, evenm though it'll suck that it's at Steve's expense. Superfan sad times :(

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[Braden]

"I'd be breathing heavy too if I were you, GOODBYE!" :joker:

I can't help but love Vanessa.

[Macie Lightfoot]

OMG and then when she sounded like she was doing her usual fake tears but ended up mocking him :joker:

[Calderyon]

I thought you liked Vanessa:laugh:

Used to and still do a teensie bit, but she is just too much to take.

On my rankings she has been a low pointer for a long while now.

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[LukeB]

Used to and still do a teensie bit, but she is just too much to take.

On my rankings she has been a low pointer for a long while now.

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How much are you behind in the episodes?

7 episodes :(

[Raph]

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John, James, Jason, Day and Audrey the stars of BB17 #TeamSuperfans

[Raph]

7 episodes :(

I'm 5 episodes behind too! It's just not BBCanada quality :( Its such a shame cause clearly Robyn Kass can do an amazing casting job, so it must be the BBUS producers who ask for **** cast members from her like Liz and Clay #recruits

[LukeB]

I'm 5 episodes behind too! It's just not BBCanada quality :( Its such a shame cause clearly Robyn Kass can do an amazing casting job, so it must be the BBUS producers who ask for **** cast members from her like Liz and Clay #recruits

I wasn't really enjoying it much where I said Season 16 was better, I prefer that casting for obvious reasons! BBCAN remains the best big brother of the year. reading the updates I'm not that keen on liz anymore.

[Wizard.]

I really hope slimy Steve is evicted and Jackie makes her legendary return, wins HOH and puts Liz/Vanessa on the block. A Meg/James/Jackie/John v Austin/Liz/Julia/Vanessa final 8 showdown would be the best right now.

[Macie Lightfoot]

John, James, Jason, Day and Audrey the stars of BB17 #TeamSuperfans

Remember when you said that you love superfans because their gameplay is just that much more intricate? But then all of the ~superfans~ this year have played some of the worst games? :joker::joker::joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Apparently Vanessa is trying to blindside John while setting up James and Meg? IDK it's her usual crazy **** that doesn't really make sense. She's telling Austwins that John wants to go to war against them with Meg and James, and she wants to encourage John to go talk to Meg and James and see how they respond?

[LukeB]

save john

[Macie Lightfoot]

John probably could've saved himself at some point this week but I guess this is what he gets for doing nothing but sit on his ass all week!

[Macie Lightfoot]

And after coming up with an absurd plan to blindside John a few hours ago, now Vanessa thinks they should keep him. I really should have seen it coming, and I'm sure I'll wake up tomorrow and see that she's changed her mind yet again and wants John out.

[Macie Lightfoot]

this might actually come down to Rock Paper Scissors :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Wtf.................. they're actually trying to make a rock paper scissors thing happen right before the eviction to decide who goes home. :crazy:

[JerseyWins]

Holy **** if this actually happens it'll be great TV. :laugh3:

[JerseyWins]

(the rock paper scissors idea finally died down after a while cause they felt like they'd look horrible for ruining someone's chances of $500K like that)

[Calderyon]

I don´t understand why it´s so hard to decide.

Getting rid of John and keeping Steve will have Steve nowhere to go, but with Austin, Twins and Vanessa as James and Meg don´t trust him.

Getting rid of Steve and keeping John keeps a number on the other side, while they lose a number. And if Steve ends up coming back, he is done with Van and co. and both he and John are back in the game and they will definitely be with James and Meg instead of them. Only Vanessa will gain from John staying of the other side the house.

But i don´t know, maybe it would be the same either way.

My prediction for re-entering is still Shelli.

[Raph]

I predict Shelli will re-enter and I really hope Steve goes tonight

[Calderyon]

^ It´s Wednesday, so today is the veto episode. Eviction is tomorrow on Thursday.

And i think John is gone, which is fine. Only thing he is good for is winning veto´s occasionally and screaming on the diary room. And sulking.

[Macie Lightfoot]

but who's going to read the cue cards in the DR once John is gone D: D: D:

[JerseyWins]

Hoping for a lot of Johnny Mac these next 2 episodes if he does go.

[JerseyWins]

Oh snap, James & Meg talking about flipping the vote. I wonder if Vanessa would actually do it. :omgno:

[AarynGriesfan]

Oh snap, James & Meg talking about flipping the vote. I wonder if Vanessa would actually do it. :omgno:

Vanessa sucks at life and kills the fun out of everything so of course she won't go along with this.

[Wizard.]

Perched for a Queen Jackie or Queen Shelli return. Becky or John would just go straight back out the door again

[JerseyWins]

What the hell... James already down too.

[JerseyWins]

What the hell... James already down too.

[JerseyWins]

Sorry about triple posting... Don't know what just happened.

[JerseyWins]

What the hell... James already down too. People are going down quick.

[Calderyon]

Feed already up.

[Pete.]

When will John go down!

[JerseyWins]

Ummm... it's down to John & Vanessa already.

[reece(:]

When will John go down!
Helen Kim ha!

[Calderyon]

James down too.

[Macie Lightfoot]

John vs. Vanessa **** THIS ****

[JerseyWins]

Lmao @ Johnny Mac returning & Vanessa HOH. Let the rage ensue.

[Calderyon]

Vanessa HoH and John is back in the comp.

[Nick.]

Vanessa won.

[JerseyWins]

LMAO @ John returning & Vanessa HOH.

[Macie Lightfoot]

And VANESSA is our HoH lmfao :joker: this show is such a mess

[Calderyon]

That was fast!

[Pete.]

At least Vanny won

[reece(:]

Trash.

[reece(:]

Looks like this section will be staying lonely x

[Macie Lightfoot]

Normally the feeds don't even come back until this time and now it's already done O_O

[JerseyWins]

THE MAC ATTACK IS BACK. :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

How did that end so quick :joker:

[Pete.]

Trash result RE John

[Calderyon]

Surely James is gone?

[reece(:]

Trash result RE John
Axe it!

[Nick.]

Week's like this make me glad there's only 3 episodes a week.

[Calderyon]

That´s got to be the shortest endurance comp in BBUS history.

[JerseyWins]

James or Meg are most likely done for. I have a feeling it'll be Meg unless she wins veto.

[Calderyon]

Was that even live? It almost felt like a fast forward to the end.

[JerseyWins]

Yeah I get the feeling it started a little earlier but who knows.

[Macie Lightfoot]

So basically we could've had any of three strong proactive women come back, but instead we get an awkward, introvert mute idiot with a hairy back whose one talent is screaming cue cards in the DR in wacky fake voices.

This show really tests me sometimes.

[Macie Lightfoot]

So basically we could've had any of three strong proactive women come back, but instead we get an awkward, introvert mute idiot with a hairy back whose one talent is screaming cue cards in the DR in wacky fake voices.

This show really tests me sometimes.

[reece(:]

So basically we could've had any of three strong proactive women come back, but instead we get an awkward, introvert mute idiot with a hairy back whose one talent is screaming cue cards in the DR in wacky fake voices.

This show really tests me sometimes.
I won't be watching another ep until the finale now, there's no-one to really root for and it's pretty much a dead house now.

[Lostie!]

Oh, I was gonna catch up on the past week but it all sounds like a huge flop right now. :unsure:

[Calderyon]

James or Meg are most likely done for. I have a feeling it'll be Meg unless she wins veto.

She is not going to get rid of John cause she wants to work with him. She probably wants to be good with Austin and the Twins, because of the jury votes.

So that leaves Steve, Meg and James.

Meg is no threat, to anyone. She isn´t going to win anything.

Steve is a threat of some sort. He can win comps. And in her head, Van has a reason to target him.

James is on the other side, is a big threat and has implied that Van is his target.

Surely it´s either Steve or James.

[Calderyon]

And yeah, i agree John was the least favorable option to come back. Anyone of the three would have added more than him.

[JerseyWins]

Here's the thing, I think Vanessa wants James in to be a strong force to go against Austin & the twins, along with Johnny Mac. Meg is useless to her. She also has some minor problems with her so I could see it happening. She also needs bigger targets in the game.

[Calderyon]

I´m not so sure James will be working with Vanessa, if she gets rid of Meg.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't even see a point in trying to get in Vanessa's head on a Thursday night because you know it's going to change thousands of times in the next few days. We're in for yet another installment of The Reason; it'll be a while.

[JerseyWins]

I don't think that he'll work with her exactly but I think he'd be forced to work for the goal of weakening the clear trio. :shrug:

[JerseyWins]

I don't even see a point in trying to get in Vanessa's head on a Thursday night because you know it's going to change thousands of times in the next few days. We're in for yet another installment of The Reason; it'll be a while.
True :joker:

[Calderyon]

I don't think that he'll work with her exactly but I think he'd be forced to work for the goal of weakening the clear trio. :shrug:

As soon as James wins HoH, Vanessa is his target.

And only one i see going from the Austin and twins at the moment is Liz, cause she is the strongest competitor of them.

So maybe Meg goes first, then Liz second by the hand of John or James.

[Calderyon]

Apparently Vanessa wants to get James out and team up with John and Steve (they have patched things up again) against Austin and the twins.

But she can´t play on the next HOH, she would most likely alienate Meg completely and it would then be 4 against 2 on the next HoH. And after John/Steve fail to win, she would of course turn on them again.

[Calderyon]

And apparently Jackie, Becky and Shelli were DQ´d on the comp. Maybe, not sure. This is according to Jokers.

[AarynGriesfan]

And apparently Jackie, Meg and Shelli were DQ´d on the comp. Maybe, not sure. This is according to Jokers.

Pretty sure we saw Meg fall so I don't think she got DQ'd.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa said that the rule was apparently that both of your feet had to remain on the disk. Interesting that this wasn't said on the live show or anything.

In other news, John has already retired to his bed like he has for the past month.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa said that the rule was apparently that both of your feet had to remain on the disk. Interesting that this wasn't said on the live show or anything.

In other news, John has already retired to his bed like he has for the past month.

[Macie Lightfoot]

And if anyone wants to entertain themselves with some Jokersupdates fan fiction,

What I thought was odd, was that during johns exit interview when it cut to commercial, Allison Grodner (executive producer) came out onstage to hug John and told him about the endurance competition. She told him whatever you do make sure you don't sit on the rope or you'll be disqualified. I noticed this wasn't explained to the other jurors or houseguest by Julie. Within minutes of the show ending James, Becky, Shelli, Jackie were all disqualified for sitting on the rope and told to drop one at a time. They said they weren't aware that was a rule and then our stream cut off.

[Macie Lightfoot]

And if anyone wants to entertain themselves with some Jokersupdates fan fiction,

What I thought was odd, was that during johns exit interview when it cut to commercial, Allison Grodner (executive producer) came out onstage to hug John and told him about the endurance competition. She told him whatever you do make sure you don't sit on the rope or you'll be disqualified. I noticed this wasn't explained to the other jurors or houseguest by Julie. Within minutes of the show ending James, Becky, Shelli, Jackie were all disqualified for sitting on the rope and told to drop one at a time. They said they weren't aware that was a rule and then our stream cut off.

[AarynGriesfan]

Apparently Becky and Shelli stole their headbands and Meg and James are pissed about it lol. :joker:

[Calderyon]

Pretty sure we saw Meg fall so I don't think she got DQ'd.

Oops. Meant Becky of course.

[JerseyWins]

Well, this week will be more reason why Meg & James are dumb for keeping Vanessa. Also this is exactly what I feared with her lasting a while if she sneaked through that eviction / the next week. She has now reached the point where a lot has to go wrong for her to get evicted in the next few weeks.

[JerseyWins]

Well, this week will be more reason why Meg & James are dumb for keeping Vanessa. Also this is exactly what I feared with her lasting a while if she sneaked through that eviction / the next week. She has now reached the point where a lot has to go wrong for her to get evicted in the next few weeks.

[LemonJam]

I'm totally gutted John's back. What an absolute waste of what could be an amazing ADC comeback. :(

[Macie Lightfoot]

Well, this week will be more reason why Meg & James are dumb for keeping Vanessa. Also this is exactly what I feared with her lasting a while if she sneaked through that eviction / the next week. She has now reached the point where a lot has to go wrong for her to get evicted in the next few weeks.

I don't think it was a dumb move at all for James. He made a big move and has since been able to fade back into the background and somehow not be anyone's target. If Vanessa was evicted there's a pretty good chance that James would have been evicted by now too.

[Marc]

What a messy season.

I do find John desirable and would ravish tho soooo I'll roll with it. But I agree Shelli or Jackie would have made a better returnee

[Headie]

Yawn this is like BB15 all over again.

Thank God I won't be watching this **** anymore, perched for Survivor now <333

[Headie]

Yawn this is like BB15 all over again.

Thank God I won't be watching this **** anymore, perched for Survivor now <333

[JerseyWins]

I don't think it was a dumb move at all for James. He made a big move and has since been able to fade back into the background and somehow not be anyone's target. If Vanessa was evicted there's a pretty good chance that James would have been evicted by now too.
I doubt that. They were still starting to go with the brass tacks group and I think it would've been stronger if Vanessa was out of the mix. And even Shelli was really starting to hold a grudge against Austwins right before she left.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't really have much faith in Shelli not targeting James considering she spent almost her entire boot week not talking to him or Jackie or Meg, and then when she finally realized that she might have to campaign to them, she only did so through Jackie and Meg and still didn't really try to talk to James. She didn't start to blame Austin and the twins and Vanessa until she realized that she wasn't as safe as she thought she was.