Big Brother 17 Live Feed Discussion Thread

[Raph]

What are your theories, Troy? I'm not a big fan of this season myself

I'm still wondering Troy? :p

[LukeB]

Racist Hoe Aaryn
Rachel Reilly
Comp Queen Janelle
Caleb
Ian
Hayden [BB12]
Drew [BB5]
Now Iggy Vanessa

I got bored.. but these are the people who had the most HOH in a season with (4 HOHS)

[Macie Lightfoot]

Frankie is in LA so there's speculation that the prize is probably him escorting Liz and whoever out of the house to an Ariana concert x_x they probably didn't tell us what it was beforehand bc they know people would turn off and not watch.

I've talked about this a little bit before, but CBS's love for BB16 is legitimately frightening for the future of this show. This is the only good season we're going to get for a loooooong time so let's enjoy it while it lasts. Prepare yourself for some more summers of contrived attention *****s and complete duds who embody white privilege like Frankie and Zach and Caleb and Derrick and Cody, because they apparently represent the gold standard of casting in some people's minds :rolleyes:

I'd put money on All-Stars 2 being as disappointing as TAR24 (one of the only seasons of TAR I've ever watched).

[Dominic]

The two trash boys have been nominated.

[Pete.]

The two trash boys have been nominated.
Yess Vanny

[LemonJam]

I hope that it's true that she's nominated John because she thinks his family doing the air guitar signal is a message to stick with Steve :love:

[Dominic]

Vanessa/Liz for F2 now :love:

[Calderyon]

I´m so confused about Vanessa. So she is against John and Steve now?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa's been shipping Liz and Austin harder than anyone else, not to mention that Austin begged and pleaded and groveled once again while John didn't entertain her bull****

[Calderyon]

Is John the target then?

[Calderyon]

John won veto. It seems to be Liz that is going up (apparently she volunteered) and Steve going out.

[Macie Lightfoot]

J**** won POV :rolleyes:

[LukeB]

YASSSSSS!!!!!! :clap1:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Now we need Steve to find a veto as well and Austwat and his slut on the block together in a double eviction :worship:

[AarynGriesfan]

So happy that Johnny Mac won veto and is in the final four. Now if we can get Vanessa to evict Austin that would be great!

[LukeB]

What a great day :amazed:

[Macie Lightfoot]

In better news,

https://i.gyazo.com/681ef3f04d3eb3e73d154e10f92d3de2.png

[LukeB]

http://wwwimage.cbsstatic.com/thumbnails/photos/w595/asset/10/00/15/99/john_talking_to_medal.gif

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I really hope Vanessa goes 4th or is cut at 3rd place :fc:

[LukeB]

I really hope Vanessa goes 4th or is cut at 3rd place :fc:

here for it tbh

and wasn't using sweets so last year:joker: mess

[LukeB]

If john wins another veto he would be tied with Danielle D and Janelle for winning the most povs in a season.

[Calderyon]

I´m okay with John´s veto, but only if he get Vanessa out. Surely he doesn´t trust her anymore to work with her. He can´t. Can´t he?

[Macie Lightfoot]

I mean, John doesn't have any proactivity to his game so lol at him getting anyone out. He just sits there and does nothing and throws Comps when people ask him to.

[JerseyWins]

YEEEEEEEEES @ Johnny Mac winning POV. :dance:

It's actually best case scenario for him to want Steve out. He's guaranteed final 3. And obviously Johnny Mac vs. Austin vs. Liz wouldn't be ideal for him but I actually think it's better for him than having a final 3 situation where Vanessa could win and get to the end. Win that final HOH against Liztin (easier competition) and win the game.

[JerseyWins]

This would be a really interesting week if Vanessa's telling Steve the truth right now about wanting to keep him... and then if Johnny Mac votes to evict him. :joker:

I kinda like Steve but that would be awesome if he got blindsided at final 5.

More so it would be great if something Vanessa wanted didn't happen.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Steve accidentally (or not so accidentally) messed up Vanessa's Skittle table :joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[AarynGriesfan]

bye Austin!

[Macie Lightfoot]

There's talk about how Liz almost won POV but then production somehow screwed her over and J**** won :rolleyes: it was the fly back and forth and complete the puzzle one btw.

[JerseyWins]

Well about 30 mins ago on the feeds Vanessa mentioned that she went to a concert yesterday. Not sure if that was already confirmed or not but yeah.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yeah Tuesday's episode (I think it'll be on Tuesday, at least) is NOT going to be fun with Frankie coming back :rolleyes:

[JerseyWins]

In Johnny Mac's conversation with Vanessa he's not really trying to persuade her to keep Steve... I think he might be telling Austin & Liz the truth about wanting to go to final 4 with them. :joker:

[AarynGriesfan]

In Johnny Mac's conversation with Vanessa he's not really trying to persuade her to keep Steve... I think he might be telling Austin & Liz the truth about wanting to go to final 4 with them. :joker:

That would be so dumb on his part. I think Vanessa and Steve will talk him out of it though.

[Dominic]

FFS the sh*ttyboy won veto

[Dominic]

What a great day :amazed:

http://33.media.tumblr.com/161a8311335b77672b45fdfab6c22008/tumblr_nsa2u6tT8t1rrcjuxo7_400.gif


Anyways YAAAAAS John is evicting Steve, get the trash out.

[Calderyon]

bye Austin!

Austin isn´t going, Liz is going to be nominated and Steve is going home as of now.

[Ross.]

I can live with John winning veto as we're FINALLY getting rid of Steve :worship:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Austin's the replacement nominee

[Macie Lightfoot]

Warning: Frankie is pictured, but click the spoiler tags if you wanna see Liz and Vanessa's disguises

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COzlVpzUkAEJYjK.jpg

[Nick.]

Warning: Frankie is pictured, but click the spoiler tags if you wanna see Liz and Vanessa's disguises

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COzlVpzUkAEJYjK.jpg

Reminds me of Nakomis and Renny.

[Raph]

Liz looks so much more classy brunette!!

Also so glad Johnny boy won veto, good lad

[Calderyon]

Well, i was wrong.

So i guess Austin is the target for Vanessa while John wants Steve out?

[Raph]

Ah an Austin eviction would be ideal, i've wanted it ever since Clay left, they were the two worst of the season by far for me

Basic generic white males bye

[Macie Lightfoot]

Basic generic white males bye

BBUSA17: John

[Raph]

I'm still wondering Troy? :p

Still wondering.. it's like I actually try to create good dialogue and it's ignored. I understand you just want to be condescending all the time, but give it a rest, as i've always said, get over me.

Now can you actually say why you think BB17 is dislike? That's what i'm interested in, something new from you.

[Raph]

BBUSA17: John

LOL a generic straight white male, doesn't mean every straight white male, that's just the extremities of America.

[LukeB]

copying and pasting peoples favourites is like the weakest argument :joker:

[Headie]

LOL a generic straight white male, doesn't mean every straight white male, that's just the extremities of America.

BBUSA17: John

[Headie]

copying and pasting peoples favourites is like the weakest argument :joker:

BBUSA17: John

[Macie Lightfoot]

Still wondering.. it's like I actually try to create good dialogue and it's ignored. I understand you just want to be condescending all the time, but give it a rest, as i've always said, get over me.

Now can you actually say why you think BB17 is dislike? That's what i'm interested in, something new from you.

I don't think BB17 is disliked, because by most people here it isn't. However, I do think that the forum has been pretty empty this year because I think you and Luke are just that off-putting with all the pointless **** you two have posted in previous seasons and in BBCanada and now (God bless us all) in Survivor. We get it, you love superfans and hate recruits, you love Dan and Angie, you hate Brittnee, you love Sarah and Willow, you think idiots like Jason and Da'Vonne and Jordan and Kevin have played intricate games even though they all were humiliatingly booted early-mid season, you think there's a difference between a fan and a superfan and choose to remind us all even when it doesn't make sense in the context of a conversation. Get a new record, ya know? I think a lot of people avoid coming to these sections of the forum regularly just so they're not subjected to the **** you two post.

And is John not a generic white male? I think Austin's more of a rare find than John :shrug:

[Calderyon]

Austin isn´t very generic tbh.

John, Jeff and especially Clay fit to that mold much more. Steve at a stretch, but not really.

[Raph]

I don't think BB17 is disliked, because by most people here it isn't. However, I do think that the forum has been pretty empty this year because I think you and Luke are just that off-putting with all the pointless **** you two have posted in previous seasons and in BBCanada and now (God bless us all) in Survivor. We get it, you love superfans and hate recruits, you love Dan and Angie, you hate Brittnee, you love Sarah and Willow, you think idiots like Jason and Da'Vonne and Jordan and Kevin have played intricate games even though they all were humiliatingly booted early-mid season, you think there's a difference between a fan and a superfan and choose to remind us all even when it doesn't make sense in the context of a conversation. Get a new record, ya know? I think a lot of people avoid coming to these sections of the forum regularly just so they're not subjected to the **** you two post.

And is John not a generic white male? I think Austin's more of a rare find than John :shrug:

Okay, so how come BB17 gets that much less attention here than BBCAN3, when we were way more engaged in that season? I was hoping for a more educated evaluation if i'm honest, not another opportunity to bash your two least favorite members lol.

And well too me a generic white male has ideals engrained in him about women, society, work etc and to me, John delivers much more as a houseguest. I don't think he's particularly interesting or deep, but I don't think anyone from this cast apart from James and Da'Vonne were. The way he talks, he comes across more educated about society and its structures, and that's one of the main reasons I don't see him as a generic white male. Also the fact that he hasn't engaged in any showmances etc.

[Raph]

Austin isn´t very generic tbh.

John, Jeff and especially Clay fit to that mold much more. Steve at a stretch, but not really.

I don't think he's generic where his personality/interests are concerned. That being said, he comes across very generic in the way he speaks to women, the way he articulates his 'masculinity', the way he talks quite often in a crude way about a variety of different topics.

He's deeper than John in many senses but I do find him to be more engrained in social structures, than John is.

[Raph]

BBUSA17: John

BB16: Eileen

Lol what does that possibly achieve in terms of good discussion?

[Raph]

I thought you cared about issues of social structures/race etc Hayden, which is why I'm particularly surprised by your response! Stop hating, spread the love :)

[LukeB]

I don't think BB17 is disliked, because by most people here it isn't. However, I do think that the forum has been pretty empty this year because I think you and Luke are just that off-putting with all the pointless **** you two have posted in previous seasons and in BBCanada and now (God bless us all) in Survivor. We get it, you love superfans and hate recruits, you love Dan and Angie, you hate Brittnee, you love Sarah and Willow, you think idiots like Jason and Da'Vonne and Jordan and Kevin have played intricate games even though they all were humiliatingly booted early-mid season, you think there's a difference between a fan and a superfan and choose to remind us all even when it doesn't make sense in the context of a conversation. Get a new record, ya know? I think a lot of people avoid coming to these sections of the forum regularly just so they're not subjected to the **** you two post.

And is John not a generic white male? I think Austin's more of a rare find than John :shrug:

Well that's a bit OTT and a dick move :umm2:
It's nothing to do with us i'm afraid :) people find the forum boring/people get banned for breaking rules..... I don't know why you have to attack us every opportunity you get and act like you've done nothing wrong. Well what you just said makes you the one in the wrong.

Get a new record? how about stop copying and pasting peoples favourites all the time and stop trying to attack the members you have a problem with?

i think your post are **** but i don't blame you for making members going away? like people have got jobs/uni and do other things then to come on a forum.

Raph is a great poster who is very intelligent :clap1:

[Raph]

Okay, so how come BB17 gets that much less attention here than BBCAN3, when we were way more engaged in that season? I was hoping for a more educated evaluation if i'm honest, not another opportunity to bash your two least favorite members lol.

And well too me a generic white male has ideals engrained in him about women, society, work etc and to me, John delivers much more as a houseguest. I don't think he's particularly interesting or deep, but I don't think anyone from this cast apart from James and Da'Vonne were. The way he talks, he comes across more educated about society and its structures, and that's one of the main reasons I don't see him as a generic white male. Also the fact that he hasn't engaged in any showmances etc.

Also to add to my previous post, you alone have more than double me and Luke's posts combined in this thread, so the hypocrisy is unreal :laugh:

[LukeB]

Also to add to my previous post, you alone have more than double me and Luke's posts combined in this thread, so the hypocrisy is unreal :laugh:

:joker: I've not posted much in the BBUSA sub-forum much tbh, so it's funny

[Raph]

:joker: I've not posted much in the BBUSA sub-forum much tbh, so it's funny

Yeah same, even during the season I reckon i've posted more in the BBCanada threads, it's such a flawed argument and really is just an attempt to belittle people, which I see no need for.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Okay, so how come BB17 gets that much less attention here than BBCAN3, when we were way more engaged in that season? I was hoping for a more educated evaluation if i'm honest, not another opportunity to bash your two least favorite members lol.

And well too me a generic white male has ideals engrained in him about women, society, work etc and to me, John delivers much more as a houseguest. I don't think he's particularly interesting or deep, but I don't think anyone from this cast apart from James and Da'Vonne were. The way he talks, he comes across more educated about society and its structures, and that's one of the main reasons I don't see him as a generic white male. Also the fact that he hasn't engaged in any showmances etc.

Because BBCan is generally better than BBUS, and some people were turned off by what a mess the BBCan subforum was at the time (and still is.) The forum kinda goes to **** when it's the same two people having the same conversations over and over again.

And I know you have this obsession with labeling posters you get along with and contestants you like as educated and ones you don't like as uneducated, but I don't see how anything John says or does proves him to be educated. On the TV edit he screams cue cards in the DR and sounds like an idiot, and on the feeds he's silent background fodder who doesn't say or do much. He's just wallpaper that the casual audience is loving bc duh, str8 white male. Like, audience keeps complaining about how annoying Liz and Julia's voices are yet they think John's DR voice is the funniest thing ever :rolleyes:

[Calderyon]

I don't think he's generic where his personality/interests are concerned. That being said, he comes across very generic in the way he speaks to women, the way he articulates his 'masculinity', the way he talks quite often in a crude way about a variety of different topics.

He's deeper than John in many senses but I do find him to be more engrained in social structures, than John is.

OK. I see your point/where you´re coming from.

[Raph]

OK. I see your point/where you´re coming from.

Cool, thanks for asking! I definitely see your point as well in terms of Austin being an inherently more interesting/unique person than John! Are you supporting Austin this season, Cal? :)

[LukeB]

Yeah same, even during the season I reckon i've posted more in the BBCanada threads, it's such a flawed argument and really is just an attempt to belittle people, which I see no need for.

Yeah same because that BB was enjoyable :lovedup:

and another thing, I was like 5 weeks behind so we have not discussed anything for ages :joker: just some excuse to attack us

[Ross.]

Ladies put the handbags down and let's just appreciate the greatness of Jackie and Basic Becky instead

[Raph]

Ladies put the handbags down and let's just appreciate the greatness of Jackie and Basic Becky instead

Yo yo don't be calling me a lady :nono:

But yes both queens! Basic Becky is probably my third favorite girl of the season. Now there is a good recruit casting, as there have been many. Gotta appreciate Day, Jason, James and Audrey too - the original minorities alliance :love:

[goldensunlight]

Just because you don't like John it doesn't make him 'generic'. At least find a valid argument against him if you want to hate on him that much, preferably not the predictably dull 'cue cards' one either.

[LukeB]

Just because you don't like John it doesn't make him 'generic'. At least find a valid argument against him if you want to hate on him that much, preferably not the predictably dull 'cue cards' one either.

this.

it's fine people dislike John but using profile favourites as an argument is a weak argument and it's not valid.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Just because you don't like John it doesn't make him 'generic'. At least find a valid argument against him if you want to hate on him that much, preferably not the predictably dull 'cue cards' one either.

Is a dentist in his late twenties who is single and loves to play guitar supposed to be revolutionary casting? He's a dime a dozen.

[LukeB]

Ladies put the handbags down and let's just appreciate the greatness of Jackie and Basic Becky instead

you mean lady macie? because he came for us :nono:

[Raph]

Because BBCan is generally better than BBUS, and some people were turned off by what a mess the BBCan subforum was at the time (and still is.) The forum kinda goes to **** when it's the same two people having the same conversations over and over again.

And I know you have this obsession with labeling posters you get along with and contestants you like as educated and ones you don't like as uneducated, but I don't see how anything John says or does proves him to be educated. On the TV edit he screams cue cards in the DR and sounds like an idiot, and on the feeds he's silent background fodder who doesn't say or do much. He's just wallpaper that the casual audience is loving bc duh, str8 white male. Like, audience keeps complaining about how annoying Liz and Julia's voices are yet they think John's DR voice is the funniest thing ever :rolleyes:

If BBCAN is better than BBUSA, why have you statistically posted so much less there than in here? Also, the same two people? The amount of times you've written a 'Dan sucks' or 'I hate Derrick' or 'John is so loud in the DR and read cue cards', is ridiculous. Like can you really not see that?

You very rarely come up with something new to say, so if you want to criticize other people's posting so much, I would suggest analyzing your own, first. :)

[Raph]

Just because you don't like John it doesn't make him 'generic'. At least find a valid argument against him if you want to hate on him that much, preferably not the predictably dull 'cue cards' one either.

omg thank you

[Raph]

you mean lady macie? because he came for us :nono:

As always lol :laugh:

[EspeonBB]

I dislike John not only for his scripted shouted DR entries but because he does literally nothing outside of the DR, unlike say Da'Vonne who gave great DRs but also contributed a lot to the house (even if she wasn't a very good gameplayer)

[LukeB]

I won't be bullied out of the USA forum or the survivor forum

[goldensunlight]

Is a dentist in his late twenties who is single and loves to play guitar supposed to be revolutionary casting? He's a dime a dozen.
His occupation and age have absolutely zero correlation with his personality and presence/character in the house.

[EspeonBB]

This season is probably the best since BB11 even if I'm not totally invested in it tbh. Maybe BB13 is better but certainly not 12/14/16. It's kind of sad that production seemingly hate this season's cast and want more BB16-style casting :yuk:

[Raph]

I won't be bullied out of the USA forum or the survivor forum

good on ya pal :hug:

[Ross.]

Yo yo don't be calling me a lady :nono:

But yes both queens! Basic Becky is probably my third favorite girl of the season. Now there is a good recruit casting, as there have been many. Gotta appreciate Day, Jason, James and Audrey too - the original minorities alliance :love:

If the shoe fits. :fan:

Basic Becky is definitely my favourite of the season, followed by the holy trinity of Jackie, Audrey and Mama Day. It's nice to see that you supported her even though she was a recruit though, they can get it right when they want too. :clap1:

[Macie Lightfoot]

His occupation and age have absolutely zero correlation with his personality and presence/character in the house.

And his presence in the house is nonexistent except for a fake voice in the DR and when he knows he's going to be on TV like during Nom Ceremonies and POV Meetings and live eviction episodes. There's no substance there.

[EspeonBB]

Grodhog should have done more to keep Da'Vonne/Audrey in. Where were the #BBTakeovers :bored:

[Raph]

If the shoe fits. :fan:

Basic Becky is definitely my favourite of the season, followed by the holy trinity of Jackie, Audrey and Mama Day. It's nice to see that you supported her even though she was a recruit though, they can get it right when they want too. :clap1:

Absolutely! Some of my favorites in the past have been recruits. I tend to prefer superfans at the start, because of course as a fan of BB I can relate to them more, but it's fair game, if they can impress me in that house, it's an even playing field! :D

[LukeB]

good on ya pal :hug:

:hug:

[Raph]

Yess at Ross coming in to have actual discussions instead of bashing members! Good on ya man!

[Ross.]

you mean lady macie? because he came for us :nono:

All of y'all just need to stop and accept you have different favourites, if someone is trying to provoke you don't rise to it (maybe Marsh could learn that :fan:).

Nothing wrong with a bit of debate, but for example the Brittnee debate is so boring and tiring to read because it just goes round in circles - I think it's stopped now though. :laugh:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Yess at Ross coming in to have actual discussions instead of bashing members! Good on ya man!

You asked what I meant so I explained myself :shrug:

[Raph]

You asked what I meant so I explained myself :shrug:

LOL you insulted me in here before that, and in the surivor thread. Give it up :laugh:

[Macie Lightfoot]

When did I insult you in the Survivor thread?

[LukeB]

You asked what I meant so I explained myself :shrug:

you could have left out the luke and raph bashing tho

[Ross.]

Absolutely! Some of my favorites in the past have been recruits. I tend to prefer superfans at the start, because of course as a fan of BB I can relate to them more, but it's fair game, if they can impress me in that house, it's an even playing field! :D

:clap1:

Becky refusing Vanessa for a deal directly is one of my highlights of the season, the way she just immediately said no and Vanessa's face was hilarious. I was gutted that Becky never won the jury return comp though, would've loved her coming back. :(

[Calderyon]

Cool, thanks for asking! I definitely see your point as well in terms of Austin being an inherently more interesting/unique person than John! Are you supporting Austin this season, Cal? :)

My main support was for Jackie and after her it changed a lot.

Austin, well... I do see why people dislike him, but the level of it has surprised me a little. Mostly of it has to do it with the girlfriend situation, i think. And the whole showmance with Liz.

He is a douche and kind of delusional, but i don´t know, i somehow like him. Maybe because i somehow find it oddly hilarious and funny. Cause he takes it all so seriously (the Judas thing and his house role) and doesn´t realize how ridiculous it looks.

He has played a fairly good game, has won comps and is very good social gamer, evidence for this that he has made final 5 and still might make it to the final 2. And even win, since the jury really has not that much reason to hate him.

[Macie Lightfoot]

My main support was for Jackie and after her it changed a lot.

Austin, well... I do see why people dislike him, but the level of it has surprised me a little. Mostly of it has to do it with the girlfriend situation, i think. And the whole showmance with Liz.

He is a douche and kind of delusional, but i don´t know, i somehow like him. Maybe because i somehow find it oddly hilarious and funny. Cause he takes it all so seriously (the Judas thing and his house role) and doesn´t realize how ridiculous it looks.

He has played a fairly good game, has won comps and is very good social gamer, evidence for this that he has made final 5 and still might make it to the final 2. And even win, since the jury really has not that much reason to hate him.

Oh Austin has definitely been playing one of the better games in the house, especially if we see Steve go this week.

[Raph]

When did I insult you in the Survivor thread?

I expect episode-by-episode updates on all the intricacies of Max's game!!!

I just can't wait for the reports on Max's INTRICATE strategies and how he was inherently more deserving because he's a superfan

To refresh your memory of something you had to say twice after I said Max was my favorite based off of first impressions. You always start Macie, just seriously give it up it's soooooo boring.

[Raph]

:clap1:

Becky refusing Vanessa for a deal directly is one of my highlights of the season, the way she just immediately said no and Vanessa's face was hilarious. I was gutted that Becky never won the jury return comp though, would've loved her coming back. :(

Haha yes that was amazing! Also I found her friendship with John to be very endearing. And I loved hearing her train stories, reminded me of Victoria telling stories about the crow picking her up, in BB16 :D

[Ross.]

My main support was for Jackie and after her it changed a lot.

Austin, well... I do see why people dislike him, but the level of it has surprised me a little. Mostly of it has to do it with the girlfriend situation, i think. And the whole showmance with Liz.

He is a douche and kind of delusional, but i don´t know, i somehow like him. Maybe because i somehow find it oddly hilarious and funny. Cause he takes it all so seriously (the Judas thing and his house role) and doesn´t realize how ridiculous it looks.

He has played a fairly good game, has won comps and is very good social gamer, evidence for this that he has made final 5 and still might make it to the final 2. And even win, since the jury really has not that much reason to hate him.

I'm not an Austin fan at all but I agree he's played a really good game, and like you say the jury doesn't actually have much reason to hate him so he has a fair shot at winning if he gets to the final 2

[Ross.]

Haha yes that was amazing! Also I found her friendship with John to be very endearing. And I loved hearing her train stories, reminded me of Victoria telling stories about the crow picking her up, in BB16 :D

~ Confession Time ~

I actually really liked John when he was around Becky in the house lmao. I really liked their friendship as it was so genuine and like you say endearing, there was just a really nice vibe coming from them. :laugh:

The train story :joker: She looks amazing for someone hit by a train. :flutter::laugh:

[Joe.]

Well that was pleasant reading back on those posts, Macie that wasn't very fair coming for Luke and Raph like that, why do you think that any opinion or view you have is the word of God around here. Ugh.

[Raph]

~ Confession Time ~

I actually really liked John when he was around Becky in the house lmao. I really liked their friendship as it was so genuine and like you say endearing, there was just a really nice vibe coming from them. laugh:

The train story :joker: She looks amazing for someone hit by a train. :flutter::laugh:

Haha absolutely! I also loved her stories about Germany and how she wasn't just a generic housemate who had grown up in the US all their life. Gave more depth to her character I think. Also the fact that the girl wasn't ashamed at all to admit she was found on Twitter, bless her :laugh:

[LukeB]

Well that was pleasant reading back on those posts, Macie that wasn't very fair coming for Luke and Raph like that, why do you think that any opinion or view you have is the word of God around here. Ugh.

Joe :love:

I should be use to this because he likes to do it towards me and raph all the time, but it was really random and it's inconsistent whining to try and justify the fact that he has some obsession with us. He basically repackaged what raph already said and posted it back to him like a longwinded version of "i know you are, but what am i?"

[Calderyon]

The next HoH is the pie chart question one? (the 3 HG playing on a pie chart stage separated by three wall and have to answer either Before or After)

If that´s the case, then Steve should be the one going (in Vanessa´s mind) as he is going win it (good at questions). In John´s mind the goer should be sadly Austin as he splits up a pair and keeps and ally.

It´s going to be a tie anyway.

For the record: I think Liz is mediocre at questions and Austin is somewhat mediocre. John based on what i have seen, is not very good, but who knows how many he has thrown.

[Calderyon]

Who would Steve get rid of, if he won? Surely it´s gotta be Vanessa. John´s target... Vanessa?

I mean, she did double cross both of them hard.

[LukeB]

If he's smart Vanessa

[Calderyon]

Vanessa would be crazy to not get Steve out and force John to work with her fully, cause surely she has to realize that Steve is not with her anymore after what she did.

If Steve still is with her... good lord.

[LukeB]

It would be amazing if Vanessa had the deciding vote and voted Austin.

[Calderyon]

She would be stupid to do so IMO.

Cause i think Steve and John would (should) take Liz and they could all work together to get Vanessa out and go to the final 3 together.

[Macie Lightfoot]

She can't really force John to work with her though, I don't think. He's never had much tolerance for her before this week, and then she went on her usual power trip and he refused to beg and grovel and plead and she tried to get him out. He's wanted her blood for a while and this week is only going to help fuel that desire.

Vanessa's game really unraveled this week, the 1-2 punch of evicting Julia and winning HoH might be the end of it all for her.

[Calderyon]

Who should Vanessa want out of Steve and Austin?

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's a tough call because I don't think that Liz or John (whichever one is isolated after the eviction) will be dying to work with her after this week. I think getting rid of Austin may be better for her, but either way I don't really think she stands a shot at getting to the end anymore. If she doesn't win the next POV I think she has a pretty good shot at getting evicted, and same if she doesn't win the final HOH.

If she makes it to the F2 though, she probably will win if only because the jury questioning in BB is such an atrocity and ever since BB14 they get Dr. Will to come in and encourage the jurors to not be bitter :rolleyes: if it was a Survivor-style grilling I don't think Vanessa would stand a shot because I really don't see her owning up to her game.

[Calderyon]

She can't really force John to work with her though, I don't think. He's never had much tolerance for her before this week, and then she went on her usual power trip and he refused to beg and grovel and plead and she tried to get him out. He's wanted her blood for a while and this week is only going to help fuel that desire.

Vanessa's game really unraveled this week, the 1-2 punch of evicting Julia and winning HoH might be the end of it all for her.

Yeah, I don´t understand, why didn´t she throw it to John. Or even Austin.

She would have been safe either one, as i think John would have been gone after Austin and Liz and Liz and Austin would have eventually gone after John/Steve, cause they are kind of a pair.

Now she won HOH on final 5, made the other side, the one she was working with angry with her, and potentially the other side too and can´t play for HOH on Tuesday. And it´s the final 4 HOH, the most important after Final 3 one obviously.

All it takes it for Steve, John and Liz to make a deal and work together to get Vanessa out.

[Calderyon]

It's a tough call because I don't think that Liz or John (whichever one is isolated after the eviction) will be dying to work with her after this week. I think getting rid of Austin may be better for her, but either way I don't really think she stands a shot at getting to the end anymore. If she doesn't win the next POV I think she has a pretty good shot at getting evicted, and same if she doesn't win the final HOH.

If she makes it to the F2 though, she probably will win if only because the jury questioning in BB is such an atrocity and ever since BB14 they get Dr. Will to come in and encourage the jurors to not be bitter :rolleyes: if it was a Survivor-style grilling I don't think Vanessa would stand a shot because I really don't see her owning up to her game.

Do you think Steve is after her too? She did double cross him too in a bad way.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think so. If Vanessa doesn't win the next POV she's gonna have a real tough time getting out of this one.

[Calderyon]

Should she then get rid of Steve as the damage has been done already and the working relationship between them cannot be repaired anymore?

[goldensunlight]

And his presence in the house is nonexistent except for a fake voice in the DR and when he knows he's going to be on TV like during Nom Ceremonies and POV Meetings and live eviction episodes. There's no substance there.
There's a reason that he's currently the favourite housemate with BB viewers despite you believing everything he does is 'fake' purely because you don't like him.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't know if one is really more favorable than the other. It's really ****ty for Vanessa bc Steve and Austin are probably the two best allies for her (lol so good job at nominating both of them.) Like, as much as Steve may be against her he obviously has an Oedipal complex and she's the closest thing to a mother figure in there, and even though Austin has a showmance attached to him he really is the only person on Vanessa's level in terms of game talk and strategizing, and I think she genuinely prefers his strategic company the best. John doesn't entertain any of Vanessa's bull**** and Liz still hasn't really evolved from the early game mentality of "he's annoying so we should get him out" so they don't really offer Vanessa much (except for the girl power thing that Liz pushed but probably doesn't really care about as much.)

[Calderyon]

Why didn´t she nominate Liz? The one who she said she didn´t trust to take to the final 2.

It´s like she is deliberately sabotaging her game.

[Macie Lightfoot]

There's a reason that he's currently the favourite housemate with BB viewers despite you believing everything he does is 'fake' purely because you don't like him.

The general BB audience is taking to a str8 white male whose airtime is almost exclusively "funny" DR sessions? I for one am shocked.

And it's not an issue of me believing that everything he does is fake, it's the fact that his DR screaming voice is not his natural voice. Just watch him on the feeds for five minutes, it's not really up for debate. His screaming voice only comes out when he's in the DR or in an important part of an episode such as a Nomination Ceremony, POV Meeting, or eviction episode. His coworkers in his home segment were like "wow we've never seen this kooky side to him before!!!" and the other HGs are so confused when they hear him screaming from the DR because he never uses that voice when he's just in the house.

I know you love John and will defend him no matter what but let's call a spade a spade.

[JerseyWins]

Vanessa would be crazy to not get Steve out and force John to work with her fully, cause surely she has to realize that Steve is not with her anymore after what she did.

If Steve still is with her... good lord.
She wouldn't be forcing John to work with her though. He has said he wants to go to final 3 with Liz & Austin and I wouldn't be surprised if he actually ideally wants that scenario.

He needs something in his end game to explain why he deserves to win the game and what he's doing now could be crazy and ballsy enough to get him deserving votes. First, eliminating his closest ally because he is close with Vanessa and helps her get to the end (also a big threat to win whether there's a bitter jury or not). At final 4 there's a very rare chance he gets evicted and that's pretty important to have that edge.

Second, he eliminates Vanessa in final 4 over a showmance because she has the best shot at winning the game and would be the biggest competition in the final 3 HOH. If Vanessa wins the veto it's still not the worst situation for him but he'd never take Vanessa to final 2. He still has to win the final 3 HOH most likely because Austin or Liz are unlikely to win it so he has to beat Vanessa to evict her.

I think no matter what he might need to win the final comp and that's where him lying about not being a superfan can come in as a strategical argument to getting there (Austin/Liz figure he would suck at it). He's probably the favorite to win that against Austin & Liz and then can win the game with a crazy final few weeks.

[Headie]

BB16: Eileen

Lol what does that possibly achieve in terms of good discussion?

I thought you cared about issues of social structures/race etc Hayden, which is why I'm particularly surprised by your response! Stop hating, spread the love :)

Because you said you hate generic white males yet John is a prime example of that. I never said I hate cooky, weird older women which is why Eileen was my fave.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Austin's going now apparently, probably due to some DR prodding. I think he's the only one who might have actually taken Vanessa to the end so this might just help the chances of a John/Steve F2 :rolleyes:

[Black Dagger]

I don't think BB17 is disliked, because by most people here it isn't. However, I do think that the forum has been pretty empty this year because I think you and Luke are just that off-putting with all the pointless **** you two have posted in previous seasons and in BBCanada and now (God bless us all) in Survivor. We get it, you love superfans and hate recruits, you love Dan and Angie, you hate Brittnee, you love Sarah and Willow, you think idiots like Jason and Da'Vonne and Jordan and Kevin have played intricate games even though they all were humiliatingly booted early-mid season, you think there's a difference between a fan and a superfan and choose to remind us all even when it doesn't make sense in the context of a conversation. Get a new record, ya know? I think a lot of people avoid coming to these sections of the forum regularly just so they're not subjected to the **** you two post.

And is John not a generic white male? I think Austin's more of a rare find than John :shrug:

They aren't just a fan, they are a superfan /Neda :bored:

[Liam-]

Are Steve or John gone yet? I might watch the end of the season if they are

[Liam-]

Oh nvm, just read back, the season remains ****.

Also, Macie :clap1:

[Macie Lightfoot]

yeah it's a shame bc even though Austin definitely sucks, I think a John/Steve F2 is worst case scenario and then we'd get some white boy revisionism about what gr8 games they played when they would both be bottom tier winners.

It's funny bc I never thought an Austin win would be one of my preferred choices, but the meltdowns would be hilarious and casuals really don't deserve to be happy.

[Liam-]

Personally for me a Steve or John win would be down there as one of the worst alongside Jordan and Andy, awful houseguests.

[LukeB]

She would be stupid to do so IMO.

Cause i think Steve and John would (should) take Liz and they could all work together to get Vanessa out and go to the final 3 together.

This would be a great move,but I do think Vanessa will manipulate them into doing something else.

Who should Vanessa want out of Steve and Austin?

She should want both out tbh, I mean Austin is obviously going to take Liz to the final 2...But idk maybe Austin could also try and get Vanessa out.. things can flip.

There's a reason that he's currently the favourite housemate with BB viewers despite you believing everything he does is 'fake' purely because you don't like him.

this, also every housemate is a favourite to somebody.

Why didn´t she nominate Liz? The one who she said she didn´t trust to take to the final 2.

It´s like she is deliberately sabotaging her game.

Messy Iggy, she should have put Liz up if she wants Steve out or split up the Austin/Liz showmance.. Liz is good at comps too.

[Wizard.]

Vanessa needs to evict Steve to ensure she's not evicted next. I'm hoping she told Johnny Mac to evict Austin in an attempt for her to evict Steve in the tie breaker, leaving JMac with the blood on his hands so that Liztin will be evicting John next. Here's hoping because I really dislike John and Steve and after all my favs are gone a Austin/Liz/Vanessa final 3 would be deserving for them.

[Calderyon]

After what Vanessa did what she did, she really should evict Steve. Cause they (John and Steve) won´t take her to the final 3, they´ll take Liz there. She would have to win veto to survive.

With Austin there, she has a better shot at getting to final 3, since they can all go after John.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Please let Austin be evicted tonight

[LukeB]

Please let Austin be evicted tonight

tonight :omgno: it's Monday?

[JerseyWins]

Austin's the target now? :omgno: When did it flip to him going?

[Wizard.]

No I hope Steve goes so much.

[Calderyon]

Please let Austin be evicted tonight

Eviction is on Tuesday. This is still Monday for 2 minutes or so.

And i hope Steve goes.

[Calderyon]

Austin's the target now? :omgno: When did it flip to him going?

I´m not sure, but if Vanessa was smart, she would evict Steve.

Cause at this point, Steve and John won´t take her to final 3. They´ll take Liz there, because they know that they can probably beat her easier than Vanessa.

With Austin and Liz, she´ll at least get to the final 3.

[Wizard.]

The eviction has already happened it's been pre recorded and airs tomorrow night. Feeds are down until then

[Calderyon]

Oh yeah, i forgot about that.

[Visage]

I hope it's Austin that goes.


A Vanessa or John win for me.

[LukeB]

tbh I will be okay with John/Vanessa/Liz winning

Austin needs to go

[Calderyon]

Steve needs to go and Austin needs to win.

Liz then, Steve after Liz, then John and Vanessa last.

[LukeB]

I want John to to be final 2 so James can win Fan Favourite :clap1: making him the first non white housemate winning it.

[Calderyon]

If John wants to be in the final 2, he needs to win his way there.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm A-OK with an Austin win as bizarre as it sounds. He sucks and all but it'd be such a slap in the face to production and to the casuals and they don't really deserve the happiness they would get from a J**** win.

[AarynGriesfan]

I think this is the only forum that has people rooting for an Austin win. I find that kinda funny. But anyways I think Vanessa flipped the vote and I expect to see Austin voted out on tomorrow nights episode.

[Calderyon]

If she did she f-ed up and sealed her fate.

[goldensunlight]

I think this is the only forum that has people rooting for an Austin win. I find that kinda funny. But anyways I think Vanessa flipped the vote and I expect to see Austin voted out on tomorrow nights episode.
If Austin was final 2 though nobody would want him to win. The underdog status goes a long way with the majority of the public weirdly.

I like Austin, but I'm fine with him going if it benefits John's game. :dance:

[Macie Lightfoot]

If Austin was in the F2 against Steve or John I would absolutely want him to win. I don't even really consider him to be much of an underdog (I don't think anyone does) so I don't really get your point.

Anyway, in case anyone missed it here's Austin being on his best behavior last night!

m12GHe7uAO8

[goldensunlight]

I don't think Austin is the underdog in a game sense. He alongside Vanessa were my guesses to win at the start of the season. He's managed to avoid being nominated for the longest too. I mean, since he's at risk of going right now people are suddenly rooting for him not to, when the last I recall everybody wanted him gone faster than Vanessa turns on her allies.

[Macie Lightfoot]

ya I see what you mean but I think a lot of it just comes down to things naturally splitting up after the Meg and James double and people choosing a side. I don't even really consider the Austin "support" as pro-Austin, but more of anti-John and anti-Steve.

[AarynGriesfan]

If she did she f-ed up and sealed her fate.

She messed up by winning HoH. She was in a good position till she did that. She's going to have to win pov no matter who got evicted today.

[JerseyWins]

OK I just saw the convo between Vanessa & John where they talk about flipping it.

Austin is probably going but I don't know for sure. Either John was kind of using reverse psychology to get Vanessa to flip and keep Steve (or just suddenly changed his mind) or he's telling Vanessa what she wants to hear and he's gonna report it to Austin before keeping him so that Austin/Liz are against Vanessa in final 4.

I guess he most likely wants to keep Steve based on his reaction. It's just kinda weird that he never even wanted to confirm his vote with Steve but then suddenly decides to change his mind when Vanessa says she wants to do it? I mean she was kinda hinting that the entire week and John was against it the whole time so that's weird. He also told Steve to get Vanessa to convince him to keep Steve so I feel like he just wanted to hear that from Vanessa to report it to Austin and set her up. :shrug:

On the other hand, he still has no way to prove what she told him so he could be sincere and just had some weird strategy to get Vanessa to decide to keep Steve. (even though that's what she wanted all along)

Do results ever get leaked for these evictions???

[Macie Lightfoot]

Yes they usually do, I'm surprised there haven't been spoilers yet tbh

[Slevin]

after seeing that Steve monologue how he thinks he has the game won. gonna be the one to take out Vanessa and saying hes not cocky. hes confident. while actually being cocky & arrogant i hope his ass goes. even before that i been hoping that.

ive seen other places saying they wouldnt mind Austin winning beside this place. i wouldnt mind at this point since at least he knows you have to do anything to win at this point but not act like you can do whatever but everybody else cant like the way that manic bitch Vanessa acts like.

[Calderyon]

If Austin was in the F2 against Steve or John I would absolutely want him to win. I don't even really consider him to be much of an underdog (I don't think anyone does) so I don't really get your point.

Anyway, in case anyone missed it here's Austin being on his best behavior last night!



Maybe he has a food fetish.

[Raph]

One step closer for John to make final 2, so James can win fan favorite :love:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

No leaks yet but every rumoured leak so far has said Austin went so let's prey they are some what right

[LukeB]

One step closer for John to make final 2, so James can win fan favorite :love:

This needs to happen :love:

[Calderyon]

I wish it´s Steve, but sadly it won´t be.

Hopefully this will be Vanessa´s downfall. I want to see it so, so bad.

[Liam-]

If Austin has been evicted, the only way there will be a good winner if the Twin or Vanessa wins, a Steve or John win would be the absolute worst case scenario.

[Calderyon]

If Austin has went, only thing i want to see is Vanessa crushed and disappointed.

[Calderyon]

The spoiler also said that Steve won HOH.

[LukeB]

All John needs to do is win that veto

[Macie Lightfoot]

There's a bunch of "spoilers" going around so w/e

[Wizard.]

Don't believe anything, nobody knows but Chenbot

[Wizard.]

I'm not pro anyone at this point but being anti-John and anti-Steve only leaves me wanting Austin, Liz or Vanessa winning

[Dominic]

From the leaks we've gotten Steve won HoH which is the worst *****ing possible out come he should just ***** off. Praying for my ladies to win veto :love:

[EspeonBB]

*prays for Vanessa to win veto*

[Dominic]

*prays for Vanessa to win veto*

+1

[Visage]

Wiki has Austin as the latest one to leave.

[Headie]

Vanessa WILL win BB17
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cb/57/96/cb579651a60c15bdee614587241b1268.gif

[Nick.]

I'd be pleased (Well not pissed off) with anyone winning if Austin leaves, would like Vanessa to win simply because she's played the best game and Johnny Mac beside her in F2 so someone else can win fan fave.

Dunno why I spent so long laughing at this.

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[Visage]

I'd be pleased (Well not pissed off) with anyone winning if Austin leaves, would like Vanessa to win simply because she's played the best game and Johnny Mac beside her in F2 so someone else can win fan fave.






Vanessa has certainly played her role in this year's series, so for me she is the winner.

John has been the best entertainment for me so I would be very happy if he came second.

[LukeB]

if austin goes :flutter:

[Calderyon]

Hopefully he does not.

[Calderyon]

If he does go, i hope Steve is the HOH. And Vanessa loses POV.

[Wizard.]

I'm so scared

[Calderyon]

^ For whom?

[Wizard.]

I just can't have a Steve John final two I just cant

[JerseyWins]

If Vanessa makes it to final 3 then I think whoever wins that final HOH and evicts her will win the game.

[JerseyWins]

You gotta be kidding... Vanessa won POV. Well, see ya Johnny Mac. :bored:

[Macie Lightfoot]

LMFAO <3333333

soooooo happy we are most likely saying goodbye again to J****. Worthless HG, worthless player, served no purpose other than cue cards and fake voices. All will hopefully be right tomorrow <3

[Dominic]

YAAAS QUEEN VANESSA <33333
BYE JOHN. You can ***** off now. Should have been gone wayyy earlier.

[Calderyon]

Of course it´s Vanny ho that wins POV. Well, who would have guessed that happening?

Oh well, hopefully she will exit at final 3 then.

[Headie]

Yasssss Vanessa get that veto! Bye John!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e1/e9/9a/e1e99afe34689486a1ee3ed280fd48ae.jpg

[Headie]

http://40.media.tumblr.com/7405cfafe115c3c22cc741c1773b7efb/tumblr_nur6kjP2YI1qzam6zo1_500.png

She's gonna break the HOH record, I can feel it!

[Macie Lightfoot]

Steve THREW the POV just bc Vanessa asked him too and he had a big meltdown about what a mistake it was :joker::joker::joker: omfg I love it

[Headie]

Steve THREW the POV just bc Vanessa asked him too and he had a big meltdown about what a mistake it was :joker::joker::joker: omfg I love it

Screaming

Vanessa has these guys wrapped around her finger :joker:

[Dylan95]

Queen Vanessa YAASSS,hopefully she evicts that idiot John tonight

[Dominic]

Living for my queen :love:

[Ramsay]

As much as i hate her, she has to win at this point!!

[Wizard.]

Steve was in TEARS and said to the camera "Sorry mom I've lost the game now I can't get Vanessa out" omg I'm dying! This is hilarious.
Now I hope and wish that Vanessa evicts John, but she's been debating whether to keep him because Apperantly Liz has jury votes :/ say bye to final 2 Vanessa if you don't evict John.

[Liam-]

Vanessa <3

I hope she wins, I called it when the season started that she was my pick to win, I need the justification.

[LukeB]

I want John to be in the final 2 so James can be the 1st non white housemate to win fan favourite :love:

[Dominic]

I want Vanessa/Liz f2 so we have an another all women F2 :love:

[Headie]

http://41.media.tumblr.com/6636d683c77896470b646699afe6b1f2/tumblr_nurdv7HtAJ1u84ikio1_500.png

[Jack_]

John </3

As exhausting as she is, Vanessa is so damn good

[Liam-]

http://41.media.tumblr.com/6636d683c77896470b646699afe6b1f2/tumblr_nurdv7HtAJ1u84ikio1_500.png

omfg

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think James can win fan fave even if he's competing against John tbh? And I'm not entirely sure about Vanessa re: Jury votes. After Dan lost 14 production really does their best to prevent bitter juries (even though they're much more entertaining :rolleyes:) by bringing in Will and encouraging everyone to Vote For The Best Player and other boring ****. The questioning process is also really flawed imo with the final juror having no time to digest anything and the fact that most people come in with their mind already made up so it's kinda pointless. That being said, I REALLY don't see Vanessa owning up to her game and it should cost her. It might not, but it should. If this was Survivor she wouldn't stand a chance. Like, she completely ****ed Austin and then tearfully blamed it on the POV Comp. Nothing is her fault, she's always the victim, poor Vanessa.

[Ross.]

Lmao Vanessa HAS to win at this point

Steve in that tweet Hayden posted :laugh2:

[Nick.]

Kinda feel sorry for Steve, wouldn't mind a Vanessa/Liz final two. Hope James gets AFP - Been meaning to vote but cab to find an American ZIP code to use for an account.

[LukeB]

Kinda feel sorry for Steve, wouldn't mind a Vanessa/Liz final two. Hope James gets AFP - Been meaning to vote but cab to find an American ZIP code to use for an account.

I will send you one

[Headie]

Kinda feel sorry for Steve, wouldn't mind a Vanessa/Liz final two. Hope James gets AFP - Been meaning to vote but cab to find an American ZIP code to use for an account.

You can make an account with your twitter/facebook can't you?

EDIT: Yep, just signed in with my facebook account and you don't need to change your IP or use a VPN.

[Headie]

Just done 17 votes for James, 1 vote for Jackie, 1 for Da'Vonne and 1 for Audrey (since I need one of those 3 to finish 3rd over irrels like Steve, Clay etc since everyone will be voting James or John)

[LukeB]

Just done 17 votes for James, 1 vote for Jackie, 1 for Da'Vonne and 1 for Audrey (since I need one of those 3 to finish 3rd over irrels like Steve, Clay etc since everyone will be voting James or John)

will anyone even vote for this idiot :omgno:

[Dominic]

will anyone even vote for this idiot :omgno:

The power of 13 year old girls is unreal, Luke ;)

[LukeB]

The power of 13 year old girls is unreal, Luke ;)

ew, he asked people to vote him out to look like a hero :omgno: not here for his fake ass

[Headie]

http://40.media.tumblr.com/48e4851c8d61b5abb819b9863233054c/tumblr_nurdp7ybjA1u84ikio1_500.png

[Dominic]

http://40.media.tumblr.com/48e4851c8d61b5abb819b9863233054c/tumblr_nurdp7ybjA1u84ikio1_500.png

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[Calderyon]

Why did you throw the POV, Steve? How stupid can you be for trusting Vanessa? The one person you should never, ever trust.

He nominated you and your partner for gods sake and was going to get your partner out and betrayed you and him. She almost evicted you. And you believed her after that?

You deserve to lose after that.

[Calderyon]

That being said, i still hope he wins the last HOH and gets Vanessa out. My only hope at this point.

[Headie]

That being said, i still hope he wins the last HOH and gets Vanessa out. My only hope at this point.

VILE :yuk:

[EspeonBB]

Vanessa NEEDS to win. Let's pray she wins her record breaking 5th HOH :love:

[Wizard.]

I want Liz to win the final HoH and take Vanessa she will seek revenge against Steve first for evicting her sister!

[Nick.]

I will send you one

You can make an account with your twitter/facebook can't you?

EDIT: Yep, just signed in with my facebook account and you don't need to change your IP or use a VPN.

Thanks. :)

[Calderyon]

VILE :yuk:

It´s not that i like Steve (i do not), i just want Vanessa to lose at this point. :laugh:

Preferably Liz would be the winner.

[Dominic]

Queen Vanessa needs to prevail :love:

[Calderyon]

If she does, good for her. Hope she doesn´t.

[JTM45]

So who's gonna go home tonight ?
I fear it'll be Johnny but i actually think Liz would be a smarter eviction choice.

[Dominic]

Most likely John and I hope he's gone for good.

[JTM45]

I'd love to see James get America's Favorite and i think there's a good chance it could happen!
It would be sad to see a dentist win the cash when someone like James could use the cash for his daughter's future.

[AarynGriesfan]

I'd love to see James get America's Favorite and i think there's a good chance it could happen!
It would be sad to see a dentist win the cash when someone like James could use the cash for his daughter's future.

If Jmac does get voted out tonight which is seems like he probably will then he's going to win afp over James for sure.

[Headie]

Yeah so I haven't watched an episode since Jackie's eviction so can someone fill me in the schedule from now til finale? (since I know the days have changed? and idk what's gonna be in each episode)

[Jack_]

Tonight - Noms, Veto, Eviction, leaving F3 in place

Sunday - HoH Part 1 begins, season recap episode most likely

Wednesday - Season Finale

[Headie]

Tonight - Noms, Veto, Eviction, leaving F3 in place

Sunday - HoH Part 1 begins, season recap episode most likely

Wednesday - Season Finale

Thanks! <3

[Calderyon]

So who's gonna go home tonight ?
I fear it'll be Johnny but i actually think Liz would be a smarter eviction choice.

For Vanessa: Liz, so her chances of winning the first part of HOH increases dramatically. John, since it increases her chances of winning the second part HOH. She can against both of them on the 3rd part, but against Steve it´s even.

For Steve: Liz, since John is his closest ally.

[JTM45]

For Vanessa: Liz, so her chances of winning the first part of HOH increases dramatically. John, since it increases her chances of winning the second part HOH. She can against both of them on the 3rd part, but against Steve it´s even.

For Steve: Liz, since John is his closest ally.

So do you think Liz will go tonight then Calderyon ?
I haven't felt even the slightest urge to watch livefeed this year so i don't know if there's any discussion going on in there regarding who's going.

I'd love it if she did!!!! I'd obviously love to see Vanessa leave the most but as that sadly isn't an option Liz would be my next choice cause she's pointless. Send her off to keep Austantrum company!

[Dominic]

If Jmac does get voted out tonight which is seems like he probably will then he's going to win afp over James for sure.

Sux

[Calderyon]

So do you think Liz will go tonight then Calderyon ?
I haven't felt even the slightest urge to watch livefeed this year so i don't know if there's any discussion going on in there regarding who's going.


It´s most likely going to be John, cause Vanessa has an obsession of getting him out.

Liz can go, if the end result is Vanessa leaving just before final 2.

[Macie Lightfoot]

HOH Part 1 started, I'm pretty sure it's the same one from BB14. Vanessa looks really pretty.

[Macie Lightfoot]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPE8UEBUkAAE3aR.png:large

[DrunkerThanMoses]

What a awful endurance comp, this is the most piss easy endurance ever

[DrunkerThanMoses]

http://i.imgur.com/UGzYnEw.jpg

Close to the 2 hour mark, all three still standing.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

3 hours and all 3 still hanging on

[DrunkerThanMoses]

They now have to sit on the apples and not the discs which is making it harder for them.

Vanessa now moaning its rig for Steve to win because she is struggling now

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa won Part 1

[Dominic]

YAAASS QUEEEN :lovedup:

I'm obsessed with her I can't. And the rat is gone too, Vanessa will win part 3 :love:

[Calderyon]

Teacher: Kids, can you spell predictable?

Kids: P-R-E-D-I-C-T-A-B-L-E! Predictable!

Teacher: That´s correct. We´ll done!

Kids: Yayyy!!!

[Calderyon]

YAAASS QUEEEN :lovedup:

I'm obsessed with her I can't. And the rat is gone too, Vanessa will win part 3 :love:

Still part 2 to play for.

[Liam-]

I'm perched for a Liz and Vanessa final 2 <3

[Calderyon]

I don´t think Vanessa will take Liz to the final 2. She already has 2 guaranteed votes in the jury.

But then again if Vanessa evicts Liz, she will already be down 3-0 in terms of votes, cause there is no way Austin and the twins will vote for her.

[Dominic]

Still part 2 to play for.

She will 100% win part 3 no matter who she's against tbh. Liz will most likely throw it and Steve's social skills through the whole game were kinda sucky so I don't think he'll do well in the jury quiz. Vanessa wins everything anyway :love:

[LukeB]

I really wish the UK would try this format as an experiment because I'm really jealous that they get to compete in endurance competitions and stuff like that... The comp where they have to transfer water to the bowl on ice is my favourite competition :lovedup:

it will be super cool

[Dominic]

I really wish the UK would try this format as an experiment because I'm really jealous that they get to compete in endurance competitions and stuff like that... The comp where they have to transfer water to the bowl on ice is my favourite competition :lovedup:

it will be super cool

I have a feeling it would flop because UK is used to public voting shows. And it seems any time they try to do a strategic twist or something it flops.

[LukeB]

I have a feeling it would flop because UK is used to public voting shows. And it seems any time they try to do a strategic twist or something it flops.

I guess but i would deffo apply for it in a heartbeat. I guess I have to move to U.S.A or Canada then:p

[Calderyon]

It wouldn´t work in the UK. British contestants would still nominate and evict the ones they dislike the most instead of thinking strategy wise.

[Calderyon]

I really wish the UK would try this format as an experiment because I'm really jealous that they get to compete in endurance competitions and stuff like that... The comp where they have to transfer water to the bowl on ice is my favourite competition :lovedup:

it will be super cool

I don´t think it´s ice, it´s just an extra slick and slippery surface.

[Dominic]

I guess but i would deffo apply for it in a heartbeat. I guess I have to move to U.S.A or Canada then:p

The thing with US/CAN is everyone cares about strategy. If I was in BBUK, I would be scared to do anything because the public votes and they are so sensitive to every action and word that is said and done. I know that they would hate me but just on a general consensus the strategy aspect on US/CAN is amazing :love:

[Ramsay]

Do they only recruit Americans? now that i think about it, i don't remember ever seeing a non-american player before.

[LukeB]

Do they only recruit Americans? now that i think about it, i don't remember ever seeing a non-american player before.

I think people who live in Amercia i don't know but it would be nice to see some British/Australian etc people(who watch the show ofc)

[Ramsay]

I think people who live in Amercia i don't know but it would be nice to see some British/Australian etc people(who watch the show ofc)

Yeah would be sweet, especially since there has been people from different places on the UK one

[LukeB]

Yeah would be sweet, especially since there has been people from different places on the UK one

They should do that next year, a diverse of people from around the world. I would deffo apply for that for sure, I want to try slop and do endurance competitions :p

[Wizard.]

Vanessa says to Liz she is definitely taking her to final 2, she admits she had to tell Steve the same thing but she will honour Liz's deal. Liz also agrees and says she will take Vanessa to final 2 if she wins. The only way Steve makes final 2 is if he wins the HoH, he will cut Vanessa and take Liz so really Liz has made final 2 already (unless Steve chickens out like he usually does or Vanessa switches her paranoid mind).

[Wizard.]

I agree with what you're saying about having the American version of Big Brother in the UK, the British audience would just not understand and neither would the housemates so anyone that watches big brothet USA would win (which is gutting cause I would definitely want to play their version). They could've easily done it with Power Trip and had an HoH and still included a public vote but obviously channel 5 are incapable of doing something so good. I still don't see why we can't include the Power of Veto in our version so a nominee can save themselves before the public vote? But like I say channel 5 are incapable of it. Even though Endomol as a whole run the USA version so why can't we just grab some of their producers?

[Nick.]

Would like a British version of the US format, wish Power Trip had intense competitions to win power and not just votes & producers choosing.