The Walking Dead - Season 7

[Niamh.]

Yeah, I think Glenns time is up tbh Would be hard hitting to the group especially since Maggie is pregnant with his child too and lets be honest his 9 lives are definitely up at this stage :laugh:

[Nicky91]

I can't see it being Maggie, you can hear her screaming in the POV shots so I've ruled her out plus if they're going with trying to make Negan weirdly likeable they won't have him kill a woman.

Hi Amy, do you also know the walking dead game season 2 with Clementine

already looking forward to the season 3 game for ps3 :) :)

[Natalie.]

Yeah, I think Glenns time is up tbh Would be hard hitting to the group especially since Maggie is pregnant with his child too and lets be honest his 9 lives are definitely up at this stage :laugh:

Noo :sad: but yeah you're probably right

[Samm]

I'm already over the who died thing, they should've done it at the time

[Babayaro.]

I just read the most bizarre and somewhat genius theory on who Negan killed

Basically, in episode 14 when Denise died, she was told to get a drink for Tara if she could. She did and it was called 'Orange Crush'. Orange being Abraham and crush being the way he dies. Amazing :joker:

[Niamh.]

brilliant :laugh:

[Lostie!]

Jeffrey Dean Morgan (Negan), Tom Payne (Jesus), Austin Amelio (Dwight) and Xander Berkeley (Gregory) have all now been made regulars for Season 7.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-promotes-4-series-908979

It was obvious Jeffrey would anyway but it's nice to have it official now, and I'm glad about the other 3 too. I loved Xander in 24 and Nikita so I'm looking forward to having him around more often next season.

I just read the most bizarre and somewhat genius theory on who Negan killed

Basically, in episode 14 when Denise died, she was told to get a drink for Tara if she could. She did and it was called 'Orange Crush'. Orange being Abraham and crush being the way he dies. Amazing :joker:

:laugh2:

[Babayaro.]

Yes at Jesus and Dwight becoming regulars :clap1: I think they'll become quite cultish/underrated characters.

I'm really looking forward to this now

[Samm]

Jesus becoming a main character <33

[Natalie.]

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[Lostie!]

Such a good poster. I'm really hyped for season 7, just wish it was closer to October :laugh:

[Lostie!]

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[Babayaro.]

Oh @ "The Best. First."

Rick to die? :worry:

[TT350]

Oh @ "The Best. First."

Rick to die? :worry:

Isn't that more the channel bigging itself up than a hint as to who dies?

[Lostie!]

Oh @ "The Best. First."

Rick to die? :worry:

That's just a Fox tagline, nothing to do with the show :laugh:

[Babayaro.]

A mess

I didn't even see 'FOX' above it lol

[Lostie!]

A mess

I didn't even see 'FOX' above it lol

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[Amy Jade]

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[Ammi]

...:worry:...hold me Amy...

[Natalie.]

:worry:

[Josy]

:eek:

[Drew.]

Eugene looks like he's about to be finished off :worry: thats a sacrifice i'm willing to accept in order for Abraham to survive

[Lostie!]

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[Lostie!]

Oooh a teaser's already out (nothing spoilery, just Negan pointing the bat at the line-up again but it's a nice little teaser)

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[Firewire]

Season 7 premieres October 23rd

[Drew.]

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[Babayaro.]

Season 7 premieres October 23rd

Bye at it not being near my birthday as usual

[Drew.]

The trailer is brilliant, i love the flashbacks. The ending though.. wtf @ the tiger

[Babayaro.]

The trailer is brilliant, i love the flashbacks. The ending though.. wtf @ the tiger

Amazing trailer! Ezekiel looks ****ing awesome too! I agree with you on the flashbacks at the start, the death will definitely be emotional, that's for sure.

[Drew.]

Amazing trailer! Ezekiel looks ****ing awesome too! I agree with you on the flashbacks at the start, the death will definitely be emotional, that's for sure.

Yeah he looks pretty badass

The death at the start of the series, new characters, new town, even more action and gore, i don't think i can wait over 2 months

[Lostie!]

How safe is that trailer for people who want to stay away from possible spoilers about the death?

[Babayaro.]

Very safe, it gives nothing away :laugh:

[Lostie!]

Brilliant trailer :clap1:

That shot of Lucille covered in blood :worry: (But I'm glad they don't seem to be holding back on how brutal the scene should be).

Shiva!!! She looks brilliant!

The epilogue with Tara and Heath is interesting too, wonder what trouble they've ran into.

I'm SO ready for Season 7, yet another reason for summer to **** off already :laugh:

[Ammi]

..OMG, I just can't take this...how brutal, savage, vicious and heart ripping this death is going to be...I hate Lucille so much...:sad:..

[Ammi]

...not sure about using spoilers really but they look cute and it's good to make use of facilities and technology etc...

[Nicky91]

i am already excited for season 7, but also for the telltale walking dead season 3 :)

[Smithy]

Just started season one (well almost finished got 1 ep left) just out of curiousity do you find out what started the virus/epidemic or is it never explained?

[Lostie!]

No it's not explained and I don't think it will be tbh.

[Babayaro.]

I like that it hasn't been explained

[Amy Jade]

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Why is he wearing Daryl's vest? :worry:

[Brother Leon]

I'm still saying there will be two deaths in the first episode. One from the cliffhanger and another one that you wouldn't expect to refuel the hate for Negan.

[Lostie!]

Well thank **** NBC didn't get the show

http://io9.gizmodo.com/producer-says-nbc-wanted-the-walking-dead-as-a-zombie-c-1785860355

[BBfanUSA]

I'm still saying there will be two deaths in the first episode. One from the cliffhanger and another one that you wouldn't expect to refuel the hate for Negan.

This might be the only way I forgive them if they kill Glenn off when it comes back.

[Lostie!]

New trailer for Season 7 (quite short but some new scenes in there)

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(Some people think 0:22 gives away a survivor but I don't think it does but yeah, a warning anyway :spin:)

[Niamh.]

Does that spoil anything Lostie? As in who he battered?

[LukeB]

When is this back btw? I'm so nervous about it :laugh: I don't want Glenn or Daryl to be killed.

[Tom4784]

I'll laugh if, after all this time, they end up using the same outcome as the comic.

[Nicky91]

i am so excited for season 7 :)

[Jessica.]

I'll laugh if, after all this time, they end up using the same outcome as the comic.
:nono:

[Lostie!]

Does that spoil anything Lostie? As in who he battered?

Some people think it gives away one possible survivor in a brief shot but I don't think it's who they think it is :laugh:

[Jessica.]

Who is that Lostie?

[Niamh.]

Some people think it gives away one possible survivor in a brief shot but I don't think it's who they think it is :laugh:

Oh I'm not going to watch it then just in case

[Lostie!]

Who is that Lostie?

Abraham.

http://media.comicbook.com/2016/09/twd-abraham-spoiler-198517.png

Doesn't look much like him if you ask me :laugh: (more like Dwight with what looks like burns on his face tbh)

[Lostie!]

Oh I'm not going to watch it then just in case

Tbh I think people are over-theorising, the shot in question really doesn't look much like who people are saying it does at all :laugh:

It happened with the first trailer too, a brief shot of the side of someone's face / back of someone's head and people are like "Omg it's [insert character here]" and it's clearly not :joker:

But yeah, it's only a brief teaser trailer so you're not missing anything big if you'd rather give it a miss.

[Jessica.]

Oh I think it does :omgno:

[Lostie!]

When is this back btw? I'm so nervous about it :laugh: I don't want Glenn or Daryl to be killed.

October 23rd (so I assume 24th in the UK).

I'm here for it being one of those for maximum impact :devil:

[LukeB]

October 23rd (so I assume 24th in the UK).

I'm here for it being one of those for maximum impact :devil:

Thanks :hee:

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[Babayaro.]

Yeah, that is clearly Dwight lol

[Headie]

^ Use spoiler tags :fist:

[Babayaro.]

Not really a spoiler though...

[Brother Leon]

I'm going for Abaraham getting the Bat and then Glenn getting killed too. That way you have the death you know is coming due to the cliffhanger and another shock to boost the Negan hate.

[Babayaro.]

I'm going for Abaraham getting the Bat and then Glenn getting killed too. That was you have the death you know is coming due to the cliffhanger and another shock to boost the Negan hate.

I wouldn't mind this tbh. How do you think they should kill Glenn off then?

Have him briefly reunite with Maggie and meet the baby before Negan shoots/stabs him?

[Headie]

Not really a spoiler though...

A death isn't a spoiler? Ok sis...

[Babayaro.]

A death isn't a spoiler? Ok sis...

I was talking about Dwight? He doesn't die

[Brother Leon]

I wouldn't mind this tbh. How do you think they should kill Glenn off then?

Have him briefly reunite with Maggie and meet the baby before Negan shoots/stabs him?

Something sudden. When everyone is crying over Abraham, Negan just go "Oh yeah, you wanted me to kill you instead of your lady..ok" and then bam!

[Babayaro.]

Lol I forgot Maggie was a part of the group in danger. Scrap my idea.

[Headie]

I was talking about Dwight? He doesn't die

I thought we're talking about the pic Lostie just posted in the spoiler tag :conf:

[Babayaro.]

I thought we're talking about the pic Lostie just posted in the spoiler tag :conf:

Oh we were lol. They wouldn't show him getting killed in a trailer :laugh: It was just that some people thought it was Abraham and that it meant he survived

[Headie]

Oh we were lol. They wouldn't show him getting killed in a trailer :laugh: It was just that some people thought it was Abraham and that it meant he survived

I'm so confused lmao :laugh: But I think I get it now :laugh:

[Babayaro.]

I'll try to be more 'spoiler' aware next time :laugh:

[Ammi]

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[Suze]

I was talking about Dwight? He doesn't die


I can't watch TWD as I only have freesat, however I read the spoilers here, and watch the upcoming trailers/snips on youtube when they are available, and am pretty sure that in one of those trailers about three quarters or so way through, and wish I could remember which of the trailers for the upcoming it was, that a walking Zombie was Dwight. How far in and if and when he does die though is of course debateable if that was him, though trailers usually show the snippets of those whose demise is early on in the next series don't they?

Something else that is bugging me about the cast members more or less saying how horrific/sick the opening sequences of the next series are regarding the death/s, makes me wonder if they add a Judith kill for gruesomeness.

[Babayaro.]

Does anyone know any good sites that aren't dodgy/illegal that I could watch this on, as my Dad's getting rid of SKY soon and I don't think BT has FOX :(

[Ammi]

...I don't know if this second trailer for season 7 has been posted...

..I'm pretty sure that it's not Rick who Negan kills but is this his life flashing before his eyes...hmmm...



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[Cherie]

Amazing :love: makes me want to rewatch it all

[Cal.]

Haven't watched this in ages but this thread just reminded me of how amazing the first 3 seasons were :love:

That random episode early on in season 3 where they butchered Lori <3

[user104658]

Does anyone know any good sites that aren't dodgy/illegal that I could watch this on, as my Dad's getting rid of SKY soon and I don't think BT has FOX :(
If you're not willing to stream or torrent ("illegally") then your only options are to have a TV package that includes the channel, or wait it out and buy the series once it's released for paid download / on disc.

... ... ... ... Personally I'd just stream it if I were you, but if you're dead against streaming sites then there's not much else to suggest!

I personally didn't watch it on "normal telly" even when I did have Sky. Ad breaks completely ruin the tension in shows like this.

[Babayaro.]

It's fine BT has AMC lol :smug:

[Brother Leon]

BT has AMC. You can also buy Now TV and watch it if you wish.

[Amy Jade]

Just get a firestick if you have issues. I have been watching Fear The Walking Dead on that and it's HD

[Babayaro.]

Your avi and sig, Amy Jade :clap1:

[Lostie!]

This is random but I had no idea the hospital from Season 5 appeared in the background of a scene in Season 2 (or that it's based on a real life hospital).

http://ytimg.googleusercontent.com/vi/kVIy--q0KoA/sddefault.jpg

[Lostie!]

They've released a sneak peek of the season 7 premiere (obviously doesn't straight-up reveal who dies but it appears to narrow it down a little so I still wouldn't watch if you're strictly anti-spoiler :laugh:).

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So I assume it will open with this and then we'll go back to just prior to the murder after the opening titles.

The blood splatter on Rick's face, Negan just dragging him across the ground :shocked:

[BBfanUSA]

Maybe it's Maggie given that it's a male sobbing uncontrollably.

[Firewire]

Maggie was on Rick's right and he has blood on his right cheek.

[Jessica.]

:omgno: stop right now Jonathan

[Firewire]

Abraham was next to Maggie and I guess the blood could splash from him

[Jordan.]

As messy as this show can be I don't think they'd have the guts to cave a pregnant womans head in...? :worry:

[Ammi]

..'do you have a right hand man or did I just.....' ...so a male..?..

[Amy Jade]

As messy as this show can be I don't think they'd have the guts to cave a pregnant womans head in...? :worry:

They killed a pregnant Lori :shrug:

[Amy Jade]

Anyone notice the bloody blanket on the floor by the brain goo?

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Daryl is wearing it here...

[Ammi]

Anyone notice the bloody blanket on the floor by the brain goo?

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Daryl is wearing it here...




..yeah I noticed it Amy but hadn't thought to look at the pic...or could be one either side of him also...?...

[Natalie.]

Oh my goodness, that video :worry:

[Jordan.]

They killed a pregnant Lori :shrug:

True but It wasn't a gruesome murder

[Samm]

I think it's going to be Daryl, I kind of feel his story has come to an end

But if their going to go with a major shock then I think it'll be Maggie

[Firewire]

i don't know how to take it tbh but based on comic con last night Lauren got upset at the thought of reaching 100 episodes (season 7 finale I think) and she was really grateful for the milestone so either she's upset she won't be there but i think it was more than she was grateful to film it

[Amy Jade]

I honestly can't call it between Glenn and Abe. Technically both of their storyline are over in the comics but I like the idea of mixing it up.

I'm so excited for the 1st episode now though!

[Ammi]

I honestly can't call it between Glenn and Abe. Technically both of their storyline are over in the comics but I like the idea of mixing it up.

I'm so excited for the 1st episode now though!

..the other thing as well as Lucille's victim is the trailer and Rick/him being taken to the trailer and Negan asking for the axe just after Rick said that he was going to kill him...obviously Rick isn't the one who is killed off but is he going to have a bit of himself chopped off with that axe...lose a hand or something...

[Ammi]

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[Jessica.]

Isn't he missing a hand in the comic book?

[Brother Leon]

Isn't he missing a hand in the comic book?

Yeah. Due to The Governor though, not Negan.

[Lostie!]

Apparently the premiere title is "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be". I was hoping for "Something to Fear" but it's a nice callback to the season 1 finale.

[Firewire]

Renewed for season 8. 16 episodes (which will include the show's 100th).

[Lostie!]

:clap1:

(Not surprising but glad nonetheless)

[Firewire]

It's good they have an early renewal as I'm sure will help with storylining.

[Lostie!]

Yeah definitely, it's always better when a show has more freedom to plan ahead.

[Firewire]

Can't believe it's going into season EIGHT though

[Lostie!]

That is crazy tbh, really doesn't feel like that long ago when I was hearing about it starting :laugh:

[user104658]

I read something a while ago about how the channel big-wigs and those making the show essentially have no plans to end its run in the foreseeable future... so really it could run for a LOT of seasons. Most likely dependent on the key actors, tbh, which really would only be Rick, Daryl and Michonne, MAYBE Carol. I think they could safely remove anyone else, so long as new and well-liked characters had already been introduced to fill the gap.

[Jessica.]

Inb4 in becomes the new simpsons

[Amy Jade]

I honestly think the cast are all dispensable. Andrew Lincoln and Chandler Riggs are probably the only cast members the show needs.

They could easily stray from the comic source material and go in a different direction and so long as it's well written it'll stay the titan of a show it's become.

[user104658]

I honestly think the cast are all dispensable. Andrew Lincoln and Chandler Riggs are probably the only cast members the show needs.

They could easily stray from the comic source material and go in a different direction and so long as it's well written it'll stay the titan of a show it's become.

Daryl's fan base is so huge that killing him off could easily kill viewing figures to the point that they'd have to stop making it... I actually think they could easily kill off Carl without it affecting the fan base much. Rick they really can't kill off; he's not even the most popular character, but he's so central to the story that it would feel a bit hollow / pointless to carry it on.

[Lostie!]

Daryl is very popular (still don't get why) but I'd like to think the show can continue without him. Nobody who isn't Rick should ever essentially be guaranteed safety (and certainly not somebody who hasn't even had a storyline since Season 3, and no I don't class him being shoehorned into the Beth story as one).

I'm sure he will be around for a long while yet though because they're too scared to kill him off (which is ridiculous for a show that should always have high stakes).

[Nicky91]

i'm not quite sure, but i think it's Glenn who dies at the hands of Negan :(

[user104658]

Daryl is very popular (still don't get why) but I'd like to think the show can continue without him. Nobody who isn't Rick should ever essentially be guaranteed safety (and certainly not somebody who hasn't even had a storyline since Season 3, and no I don't class him being shoehorned into the Beth story as one).

I'm sure he will be around for a long while yet though because they're too scared to kill him off (which is ridiculous for a show that should always have high stakes).

I think the SHOW could easily survive and still be great, as in I don't think it would ruin the show at all and as you say maybe even improve it by showing that "no one is really safe" again. What I don't have faith in is audiences and networks... there is a decent chunk of the "Daryl fan" audience who would tune out if he was written out and networks are so twitchy that a sudden ratings drop can easily end up with a premature cancellation.

This is why I'm pleased that a lot of the best original scripted shows are starting to go digital / streaming now. If TWD was a Netflix exclusive then I'd be totally convinced that Daryl will be Negan's victim. It would have the biggest impact by a mile, both on audience and characters. But on network telly he's safe.

[Brother Leon]

Leaks and spoilers all over the internet so beware..

[Amy Jade]

I hope the video I just saw is fake :(

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^^ just incase anyone wants to see it

[Firewire]

Omg

[Firewire]

That looks real

Don't click the spoiler

[Cherie]

I've waited six months, going to hang on though dying to click it

[Firewire]

It's a video that says "real or fake" in the title... so I watched thinking it was fanmade. I'm not so sure now so isn't worth it

[Firewire]

But in saying that, I'm sure they said they filmed multiple deaths. It could be something to throw us off.

[Cherie]

It's a video that says "real or fake" in the title... so I watched thinking it was fanmade. I'm not so sure now so isn't worth it

Oh okay I'll stay strong !!!!

[Firewire]

Oh okay I'll stay strong !!!!

Not long to go! You've waited all the time!!

[Brother Leon]

Didn't click that, but if it's what my friend sent me then I I would say that is 95% fake.

Was it
Maggie?

Who's watching at 2am? Who's watching at 9pm? I don't think I can wait until then. 2am is is.

[Firewire]

Yes it was Leon

I'm gonna get up earlier tomorrow morning and watch it :joker:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

i'm not quite sure, but i think it's Glenn who dies at the hands of Negan :(

I hope not :(

[lukee]

so excited

[Amy Jade]

I am staying up :worry:

[lukee]

me to

[Amy Jade]

So this just leaked :worry:

Massive spoilers

http://i.imgur.com/rWztyZh.jpg

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Which links are you guys watching on?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Negan must die :bawling::bawling:

[BBfanUSA]

So I'm watching the show right now, They don't show the victim right away but I'm going to put who dies in spoilers

Abraham first meets the bat, They tease killing Daryl and let him go, then Negan kills Glenn also with the bat hence the sobbing in the preview which is the opening of the show

[Shaun]

welp

[BBfanUSA]

Non Spoiler review,

That episode was great, Negan is going to be a psychopathic asshole and I'm going to love it

[Xtopher]

What a fantastic episode.

[Ninastar]

That was absolutely heart breaking. Holy **** that was insane.

[Amy Jade]

Great episode.

I actually don't like Negan or find him that interesting judging by that episode, he'll be somebody who'll get focused on when I dont care about his background.

I didn't find the episode that emotional though, I was sad to see Glenn go but I was non plussed by Abe going. I also thought the whole van part a little odd

[Cherie]

Non Spoiler review,

That episode was great, Negan is going to be a psychopathic asshole and I'm going to love it

:clap2:

[LukeB]

Amazing episode and Negan seems like he's going to be an interesting character.

I kind of expected Abraham to die and I thought it would only be him so I was relieved it wasn't my favourite character Glenn but then Negan killed Glenn :(

[Firewire]

Watched it this morning.

What a rollercoaster of emotions

When Abraham died, I was disappointed. Not because I like him, but because I expected more. And then Glenn died. I gasped. I'll miss him but I applaud the story decision to go ahead with it. Maggie is going to become so iconic as she tries to avenge his death.

[Jessica.]

Traumatic :omgno:

[Lostie!]

I enjoyed it but (and I say this as someone who defended the cliffhanger), I do feel like the effect would have been greatest had they done the deaths in the finale when people not so familiar with the comics might not have been expecting it and not shoved a nearly 7 month gap in between. Also because I got sick of the waiting game and teasing I eventually just ended up reading a leaked summary of the premiere so I knew everything before I watched it :laugh:

The fake out with showing Daryl's blanket in the opening and the "right hand man" stuff was annoying because this show is growing too fond of teasing big deaths and not actually going through with it (like with Glenn last season).

That said, Glenn's death was disturbing. I think especially because I knew it was coming, that whole scene just after Daryl attacked Negan really got my heart racing. Abe's death was a little less effective because it seemed like they were quickly getting that out of the way to make time for the main event but I'm glad they pulled no punches with Glenn's death (and as much as I loved Glenn, a Season 1 character had to die here. I wish it was Daryl but Glenn was the next most appropriate choice).

Maggie broke my heart :sad:

[Samm]

All the people who Maggie loved have all been killed by humans mess

[Lostie!]

All the people who Maggie loved have all been killed by humans mess

Patricia shade?

Bitch crippled chickens so I hope so

[Headie]

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[BBfanUSA]

Regarding the death scene
I knew that they'd likely kill more than one person off but didn't expect more than one to die at the same scene essentially. I'd figure they'd kill off Glenn first as well.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Sad episode.


Could Jeffrey be any sexier though especially in the after special...but oh sad :(

[Samm]

Patricia shade?

Bitch crippled chickens so I hope so

Forgot about her lool, I guess only the main characters she's loved

[Adamw92]

I hated it. I waited almost 7 months for that? like really, so disappointing and anticlimactic

[Ramsay]

Abe taking it like a boss :clap1: Fully expecting Glenn to be hiding under the bat and randomly turn up in episode 5. Ah no, really though i was expecting Glenn but was reallyyyyy hoping they'd pull the trigger and kill off Daryl. A true shock that the show needed i'd dare say. Still though, great episode. Negan seems beast and I genuinely thought Carl's hand was coming off. Nice reference to the comics. Oh well, Rick is now his bitch.

[BBfanUSA]

For anyone that's a GTA5 fan, the guy who plays Negan's right hand man, the man who gave him the sharpie, is the actor who voiced Trevor, Steven Ogg.

He kinda looked familiar to me last night

[Jordan.]

The double death had me shook, I didn't expect it at all. In a way I'm kind of here for Rick being taken down a peg, just a shame it's at the expense of other characters

[arista]

Great episode

[Babayaro.]

That was such a good episode :clap1:

Abraham putting up no fuss and just accepting his fate was brilliant, and a heroic way for him to go. Glenn's death on the other hand, was truly disturbing. I kind of figured he would be the one to go once Daryl attacked Negan, but that didn't make things any less shocking. Jeffrey Dean Morgan deserves so much credit for that episode though, he made me hate Negan SO much.

[reece(:]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/8285d5d1ca4ea9b2d488dd28c757f1cf/tumblr_ofklq9z3d31rey868o1_500.gif </3

[Drew.]

https://67.media.tumblr.com/66fc6845a5cdc2aa9d3af98cb8188853/tumblr_ofkiweKIAa1tstutno2_500.jpg

[Firewire]

I didn't notice that :omgno:

[Ramsay]

OH MY HEART

[Tom4784]

I thought it was pretty meh, it felt like a couple of scenes stretched out over an hour and the deaths were completely predictable.

AMC's greed has been slowly killing this series since Season 3. Everything's so ****ing drawn out just so they can make more money from advertisers.

[Lostie!]

https://67.media.tumblr.com/66fc6845a5cdc2aa9d3af98cb8188853/tumblr_ofkiweKIAa1tstutno2_500.jpg

:shocked::shocked::sad:

I noticed his hand but didn't realise what he was doing :sad:

[Northern Monkey]

Devo'd Glenn's gone tbh.The way he went too.Left him in pain with his eye hanging out for way too long.

[BBfanUSA]

As we saw, they showed everyone getting offed by the bat at one point during Rick's 1 on 1 experience with Negan.

And it turns out they did full alternate death takes, here's Maggie meeting Lucille
t89FSOKjGPk

[Natalie.]

Great episode, really enjoyed it. Apart from when they killed Glenn :sad:
Loved Andrew in this, excited for the the season!

[Nicky91]

Great Episode, i really like Negan for some weird reason, he's my favourite villain in a series to date, Glenn's death was absolutely a bit overkill to be honest, but Abe omg i didn't see that one coming, and for some reason i do think there is some weird plot twist coming up, involving Gregory and Jesus

[Ammi]

Great episode, really enjoyed it. Apart from when they killed Glenn :sad:
Loved Andrew in this, excited for the the season!


...although Abe and Glenn's deaths were gruelling and sad/emotional and I didn't feel they had to be so graphic either..I knew deaths were coming/had psyched myself...(and didn't watch all of the bits either..)...the thing I found most gruelling and emotional was Rick being faced with having to cut of his own son's arm.../that was so messed up..and then that down from the emotion hen he didn't have to do it../a complete frenzied rollercoaster of emotions...

[Tom4784]

I don't get why people liked that episode so much, it was incredibly one note throughout. I was bored and tempted to skip ahead at several points.

[Jessica.]

I didn't really like it tbh :umm2:

[Northern Monkey]

I thought it was really good.They had to find something that would break Rick into submission.Up until he was forced to almost cut off Carls arm he still had that pissed off look in his eyes.The look of a man who wanted to take vengeance.That scene with Carl was showing us that Rick was finally putty in Neegans hand.It was his one weakness.The only thing that could make him submit.
I think this season has been set up to be amazing.They're trapped and it's going to take alot to get out of the situation they're in.

[Northern Monkey]

...although Abe and Glenn's deaths were gruelling and sad/emotional and I didn't feel they had to be so graphic either..I knew deaths were coming/had psyched myself...(and didn't watch all of the bits either..)...the thing I found most gruelling and emotional was Rick being faced with having to cut of his own son's arm.../that was so messed up..and then that down from the emotion hen he didn't have to do it../a complete frenzied rollercoaster of emotions...It was not nice to watch but it was designed imo to make us realise that Neegan is worst enemy they've faced.Pure inhumane evil.I mean even The Governer had a glint of humanity and emotion to him.Neegan has nothing good in him at all.I think it was also to make us hate him so when they do finally escape and get their revenge(probably Maggie will kill him i think) it will be all the more satisfying.I think this will be the groups greatest challenge yet.

[BBfanUSA]

I was fine with the episode but I think everything would've been a bit better if they ended S6 with Abe's death and did the premiere like it was looking back

[user104658]

It was not nice to watch but it was designed imo to make us realise that Neegan is worst enemy they've faced.Pure inhumane evil.I mean even The Governer had a glint of humanity and emotion to him.Neegan has nothing good in him at all.I think it was also to make us hate him so when they do finally escape and get their revenge(probably Maggie will kill him i think) it will be all the more satisfying.I think this will be the groups greatest challenge yet.

IMO Carl is the most likely to kill Negan. He broke all of the characters who were there that episode - except Carl. Carl still had that look of hatred by the end... and was still being defiant... but Negan not only knowingly left him "unbroken" by the end but actually changed his mind about having his hand cut off. He doesn't see him as a serious threat, so didn't feel like he had to break his will, but has a strange respect for him.

My exact prediction would be... Negan will take and form some sort of mentor relationship with Carl, believing he is bringing him round to his way of thinking. Carl will play along for the majority of the season. Towards the end of the storyline, Rick will be taking on Negan, and will be beaten by Negan and about to be killed. Carl will then take the opportunity to kill Negan. To be even more exact... I think Negan will totally trust Carl and will have given him Lucille to hold while he takes on Rick. Carl will then kill Negan by smashing his head in when his back is turned, using Lucille.

Wonder how close I am :joker:

[Ammi]

IMO Carl is the most likely to kill Negan. He broke all of the characters who were there that episode - except Carl. Carl still had that look of hatred by the end... and was still being defiant... but Negan not only knowingly left him "unbroken" by the end but actually changed his mind about having his hand cut off. He doesn't see him as a serious threat, so didn't feel like he had to break his will, but has a strange respect for him.

My exact prediction would be... Negan will take and form some sort of mentor relationship with Carl, believing he is bringing him round to his way of thinking. Carl will play along for the majority of the season. Towards the end of the storyline, Rick will be taking on Negan, and will be beaten by Negan and about to be killed. Carl will then take the opportunity to kill Negan. To be even more exact... I think Negan will totally trust Carl and will have given him Lucille to hold while he takes on Rick. Carl will then kill Negan by smashing his head in when his back is turned, using Lucille.

Wonder how close I am :joker:



....oh I hadn't even thought of Carl being 'mentored' by Negan but I like your thought process.../I was wondering how the season storyline would progress and that would be a good direction to take it with Rick genuinely believing that Carl is now 'Negan's son' but it's all just Carl playing along and waiting for the opportunity....I'm not sure that Carl would have the physical strength to the deed himself though../I'm not sure that he'll be the one who kills him but I like your style with the rest of it.../I'll put five English pounds on Toy Soldier calling season 7....

[Ammi]

...if it stays true to the comics with Negan's character../not that I've read the comics but some have said that Negan has his own 'code of honour' and he doesn't harm females or children..?...that would fit as well (also including the females in the group...)...that while he's focusing on the 'strength' of the group, his biggest threats are actually his weaknesses.../children and females...

[Ammi]

...here for Judith taking him out tbh...you go for the headshots Carl, I have the ankles and kneecaps all covered down here....

[user104658]

Parents Television Council Slams The Walking Dead Premiere; Pushes to Remove AMC From Cable Bundles (http://ihorror.com/parents-television-council-slams-the-walking-dead-premiere-pushes-to-remove-amc-from-cable-bundles/)

:joker: This is hilarious. It's a show about reanimated corpses eating people.

[Tom4784]

Why is it that these parenting groups always expect everyone else to parent their kids for them?

Don't want your kids watching TWD? Don't let them and stop expecting the world to pick up your slack.

[user104658]

Why is it that these parenting groups always expect everyone else to parent their kids for them?

Don't want your kids watching TWD? Don't let them and stop expecting the world to pick up your slack.

Part of their argument seems to be that it isn't an "optional" channel, so by paying for their cable bundle they are "helping to fund this sort of thing". The whole thing is ridiculous... other than TV being entirely pay-per-view how can anyone expect to only be funding the things that they, personally, want to be on TV?

Also in the article... one of the guys quoted spouts on about the violence clearly being a replacement for good writing and storytelling, before admitting that he hasn't actually seen the whole episode and only watched clips of the most violent parts :think:.

[Tom4784]

Part of their argument seems to be that it isn't an "optional" channel, so by paying for their cable bundle they are "helping to fund this sort of thing". The whole thing is ridiculous... other than TV being entirely pay-per-view how can anyone expect to only be funding the things that they, personally, want to be on TV?

Also in the article... one of the guys quoted spouts on about the violence clearly being a replacement for good writing and storytelling, before admitting that he hasn't actually seen the whole episode and only watched clips of the most violent parts :think:.

He's not lying tbh but yes, their argument as a whole is ridiculous.

[user104658]

He's not lying tbh but yes, their argument as a whole is ridiculous.

I only thought it was vaguely beyond what was necessary... I actually don't think the sheer raw brutality of the character could have been established without it. He carries out these acts without wincing or flinching even slightly, and the episode had to capture that, or all you have is The Governor Mk.2.

On top of that - they're not even the most graphic scenes that TWD has shown. Is it purely because it's human-on-human violence rather than zombie-on-human that people are so sickened? There's been as much gore plenty of times, when it comes to walkers. I'm trying to put my finger on exactly why people have found these particular scenes so far above others.

[BBfanUSA]

Parents Television Council Slams The Walking Dead Premiere; Pushes to Remove AMC From Cable Bundles (http://ihorror.com/parents-television-council-slams-the-walking-dead-premiere-pushes-to-remove-amc-from-cable-bundles/)

:joker: This is hilarious. It's a show about reanimated corpses eating people.

These idiots have the power of OFCOM minus the ability to fine

If they're too lazy to put on parental controls then they shouldn't have cable

[Suze]

It was not nice to watch but it was designed imo to make us realise that Neegan is worst enemy they've faced.Pure inhumane evil.I mean even The Governer had a glint of humanity and emotion to him.Neegan has nothing good in him at all.I think it was also to make us hate him so when they do finally escape and get their revenge(probably Maggie will kill him i think) it will be all the more satisfying.I think this will be the groups greatest challenge yet.

I haven't seen it, can't get that channel on freesat, so rely on the spoilers and reading this thread. Maybe though as Rick was faced with cutting his own son's arm off, instead of the others like Maggie killing Negan when the time comes and the situation allows, then cut both Negan's arms off and let him die by being zombiefied and not able to fight back.

[Brother Leon]

The violence was perfect and a great tribute to the comic book. I'm glad they didn't shy away from it.

[Nicky91]

i really like Negan, he's a interesting character, at least more interesting than Carl, who i find boring for the show :laugh:

[user104658]

i really like Negan, he's a interesting character, at least more interesting than Carl, who i find boring for the show :laugh:

But who isn't more interesting than Coral :think:

[RodHull]

....oh I hadn't even thought of Carl being 'mentored' by Negan but I like your thought process.../I was wondering how the season storyline would progress and that would be a good direction to take it with Rick genuinely believing that Carl is now 'Negan's son' but it's all just Carl playing along and waiting for the opportunity....I'm not sure that Carl would have the physical strength to the deed himself though../I'm not sure that he'll be the one who kills him but I like your style with the rest of it.../I'll put five English pounds on Toy Soldier calling season 7....

Well if it roughly follows the comics then

Negan doesn't die at all as a new larger threat appears toward the end of this story arc and rick simply imprisons him for reasons the comics go into more depth about, though tbh hes not really integral beyond that point so they may just bump him off and have done with it, and he does indeed have a bit of a weird friend relationship with coral but not mentor as such more corrupter or attempted corrupter

Personally I hated Glenn glad hes dead actually cheered when he got whacked ! The episode as a whole though was the usual WD fare it pulls to much these days, 20 ish minutes of content dragged out over 1 hour. The Fall which just wrapped up on bbc 2 did slow burn not much going on but did it properly to raise tension TWD just sometimes drags in a boring not tense way.

The whole bit with rick in the bus was weird and boring and totally out of character imo, also tbf Negan could have done much worse considering Rick and his gang mercilessly butchered 20+ of his men for no real reason.

[user104658]

The whole bit with rick in the bus was weird and boring and totally out of character imo, also tbf Negan could have done much worse considering Rick and his gang mercilessly butchered 20+ of his men for no real reason.

I do agree with that bit - we've had several reasons setting up the fact that Rick as an individual is a skilled, ruthless, and brutal killer. The power that Negan has established over him is that he is also that, but also has the advantage of numbers and seemingly zero morality... which means that he can set up things like the line-up - using Rick's loved ones, and the numbers advantage, to show them that they have no hope of escape or fighting back (they could try, might even take out Negan if they're quick and lucky, but they are surrounded and would all die).

SO... they then sort of ruin that by having Negan take Rick off just the two of them and still dominate him. As soon as it was one-on-one, realistically, Rick had a very good chance of finding a way to take out Negan. Maybe he would fail, but he would certainly try, and it would be a fairly evenly matched situation... why would Negan risk that?

[Lostie!]

Really enjoyed the second episode. Much quieter than the premiere but I think that was needed (and I love Carol and Morgan so any episode focusing heavily on those two is bound to me good for me :laugh:).

I love Ezekiel and Shiva already :clap1: I really like Jerry too, he's gonna be good value so I hope we see more of him.

[Cherie]

Yeah great contrast and one in the eye for..it's all violence and no storyline :hee:I particularly liked that the pigs were gorging on the dead and then given to Negan and co :hehe:

[Natalie.]

I really enjoyed that episode, think the slower pace was definitely needed
Loving Ezekiel, Ben, Jerry, and of course Shiva

Was pleased to see Carol and Morgan again.

[Jordan.]

We're on easy street and it feels so sweet

https://images.rapgenius.com/20e8e014bbccf9a93fe5a61f04506478.385x221x68.gif

[Headie]

We're on easy street and it feels so sweet

https://images.rapgenius.com/20e8e014bbccf9a93fe5a61f04506478.385x221x68.gif

'Cause the world is 'bout a treat
When you're on easy street

http://i.imgur.com/Qrgwvdr.gif

[Firewire]

Bop

[Babayaro.]

Great episode :clap1:

Poor Gordon :sad:

[Babayaro.]

Bye at my ICB sig showing

[Ammi]

...I loved this episode, it was probably one of my favourites of all of them so far...Negan is sadistic and brutal but now that he's resting Lucille for a while, he's strangely fascinating as well....eeeek...it was good to hear Dwight's story and realise how he had come to be there and that he's nothing like Negan but has to act similar to survive and for his wife to as well...Daryl was slightly annoying because why didn't he just pretend and kneel and fool Negan.../poor Daryl..:sad:...and things are not going to go well for Dwight and his wife when Negan finds that they've tried to make things easier for Daryl in trying to get him to kneel.../great episode, I love the psychology stuff..:love:..

[Amy Jade]

I like Sherry :love:

[Cherie]

Daryl :love:

[Ammi]

I like Sherry :love:

..the actress is really lovely as well..(I don't know her name..)...but I stayed awake and saw her on Talking Dead as well...

[Amy Jade]

..the actress is really lovely as well..(I don't know her name..)...but I stayed awake and saw her on Talking Dead as well...

Christine Evangelista

[user104658]

...I loved this episode, it was probably one of my favourites of all of them so far...Negan is sadistic and brutal but now that he's resting Lucille for a while, he's strangely fascinating as well....eeeek...it was good to hear Dwight's story and realise how he had come to be there and that he's nothing like Negan but has to act similar to survive and for his wife to as well...Daryl was slightly annoying because why didn't he just pretend and kneel and fool Negan.../poor Daryl..:sad:...and things are not going to go well for Dwight and his wife when Negan finds that they've tried to make things easier for Daryl in trying to get him to kneel.../great episode, I love the psychology stuff..:love:..

Like Dwight says though, Negan has "taken a shine" to Daryl and I personally think that ".......I'm Daryl." scene has only made him even fonder of him. He knows, really, that Dwight and his other men are individually weak... ... ... I think he sees Daryl as someone who could be a genuine / tough as nails "second in command" if he can manage to turn him.

[JerseyWins]

Wow Negan is sooo easily the best villain ever on this show already. Beats out the governor and everyone else for sure. One of my favorite characters in general. :clap1:

Loving the start of this season. The premiere and episode 3 were both amazing and the 2nd episode was fine too as a follow up to the first episode and introduction for some new characters.

Oh and that preview for next episode... "little pig little pig, let me in" :joker:

[Ammi]

Like Dwight says though, Negan has "taken a shine" to Daryl and I personally think that ".......I'm Daryl." scene has only made him even fonder of him. He knows, really, that Dwight and his other men are individually weak... ... ... I think he sees Daryl as someone who could be a genuine / tough as nails "second in command" if he can manage to turn him.

..yeah I see that as well TS...not just taking a shine though I think it's also because he doesn't have a 'hold/control' over Daryl as he does with others ..no wife like with Dwight, no son like with Rick, no unborn child of a killed by him husband like with Maggie...his controls there are real emotional pulls which is something he's used to being the master of emotional control with...but with Daryl, he doesn't have that so to have him kneel and to break him I think is feeding his psyche as well..of breaking someone who could just roll over and allow himself to be killed../Daryl has nothing to lose really in doing that...

[Niamh.]

Finally all quite up, unfortunately Gav spoiled the fact that Glenn was going to die while we were at the airport by reading a headline of a magazine out loud :fist: But Abraham dying too was a surprise. Negan is such a great villain, so scary. Last episode was brilliant, poor Daryl though :worry: Also loving Ezekiel, perched(I'm so hip) for him to join forces with Rick and Co to take Negan out

[Babayaro.]

I can see Ezekiel getting beheaded and like put on a spike or something. He has the right head/hair for it :spin:

[Niamh.]

aww Marc :nono:

[Drew.]

This season is brilliant. Really enjoyed these last few episodes with the new characters and getting to know all about them, things are shaping up to be really interesting. Finding it hard to predict whats going to happen which is also a bonus. Negan is ****ing brutal though, one of the best villains i've seen on TV, i'm genuinely scared of him

[Jessica.]

On in 10 minutes. :omgno:

http://livetvcafe.net/video/4B31RD25GG87/AMC

[Jessica.]

Kween Michonne :flutter:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Carl is bae

[Jessica.]

:umm2:

[Jessica.]

Anyway, I really liked the episode (it's an hour long with the ads cut out). It just gives you EVERY reason to hate Negan

[Northern Monkey]

Rick's almost lost his spirit.I think it's going to take one of three things for him to get it back and fight....
Either Neegan pushes it one step too far and kills somebody else(possibly michonne) OR somebody else takes control and leads the revolt and gives Rick a kick up the arse OR
Carol and whats his face come back and Ezkiels group join forces with Ricks group and they come up with a ****hot plan.

[Brother Leon]

I can see Ezekiel getting beheaded and like put on a spike or something. He has the right head/hair for it :spin:

Comic Spoiler.


That actually happens. :laugh:

[Babayaro.]

LMAO wtf

[Cherie]

Rick's almost lost his spirit.I think it's going to take one of three things for him to get it back and fight....
Either Neegan pushes it one step too far and kills somebody else(possibly michonne) OR somebody else takes control and leads the revolt and gives Rick a kick up the arse OR
Carol and whats his face come back and Ezkiels group join forces with Ricks group and they come up with a ****hot plan.

I think Gabriel might be a catalyst, I like that Negan finds him creepy :laugh:

[Nicky91]

well nice episode I like Negan, he's so badass yet i find him also quite funny


i also like that girl with her balloons, is her name Tara, i definitely want some more scenes for her, and i'm predicting a love story for her and Carl :)


but Michonne is such a queen :flutter:

[Babayaro.]

I'm not finding Negan all that terrifying tbh. He's too funny for that. I suppose there's still plenty of time for that to change though.

[Nicky91]

I'm not finding Negan all that terrifying tbh. He's too funny for that. I suppose there's still plenty of time for that to change though.

maybe a shocking death which nobody will see coming :(, otherwise i would definitely be Team Negan :thumbs:


it's that Gregory guy i find creepy, and i don't trust him at all, hopefully we'll know more about him soon as well :)

[Niamh.]

Rick's almost lost his spirit.I think it's going to take one of three things for him to get it back and fight....
Either Neegan pushes it one step too far and kills somebody else(possibly michonne) OR somebody else takes control and leads the revolt and gives Rick a kick up the arse OR
Carol and whats his face come back and Ezkiels group join forces with Ricks group and they come up with a ****hot plan.

Hoping for this tbh. I don't think they can kill off anymore of the older cast this season, atleast not till the very end anyway and Michonne is one of the best characters, better than Rick for certain

[Niamh.]

well nice episode I like Negan, he's so badass yet i find him also quite funny


i also like that girl with her balloons, is her name Tara, i definitely want some more scenes for her, and i'm predicting a love story for her and Carl :)


but Michonne is such a queen :flutter:

I think it's Edith. Tara was killed last season

[Nicky91]

I think it's Edith. Tara was killed last season

okay thank you for telling me :)


i'm also really excited for telltale's season 3 of the walking dead, with clementine and young AJ :hee:

[Headie]

I think it's Edith. Tara was killed last season

I don't think she was? She's just gone missing from the show altogether for some reason :laugh: Last we saw of her she was on a supply run with Heath:

http://heavy.com/entertainment/2016/11/where-is-tara-heath-on-the-walking-dead-supply-run-dead-alive-negan-rumors-missing/

That explains pretty much why she's been gone

[Niamh.]

I don't think she was? She's just gone missing from the show altogether for some reason :laugh: Last we saw of her she was on a supply run with Heath:

http://heavy.com/entertainment/2016/11/where-is-tara-heath-on-the-walking-dead-supply-run-dead-alive-negan-rumors-missing/

That explains pretty much why she's been gone

Oh I was thinking of her girlfriend Denise. I'd totally forgot about Tara

[Firewire]

Yeah Alanna Masterson went on maternity leave

[Nicky91]

i find Rosita such a badass queen :amazed:

[user104658]

I think Gabriel might be a catalyst, I like that Negan finds him creepy :laugh:

Since he completely lost his fear, Father Gabe has been the most hardcore character on the show. Straight up terrifying :joker:. Negan probably has absolutely no idea what to make of him. He realises that he doesn't scare him, but it's not in a brave / defiant / standing up to him way like with Carl... he's not challenging Negan... he's just calm and unphased. What do you do with that? And then, yeah, the reason that Rick isn't able to stand up and fight is because he is emotionally all over the place. Maybe Gabriel can pass on a bit of that zen to Rick so that he can do something.

[Niamh.]

Since he completely lost his fear, Father Gabe has been the most hardcore character on the show. Straight up terrifying :joker:. Negan probably has absolutely no idea what to make of him. He realises that he doesn't scare him, but it's not in a brave / defiant / standing up to him way like with Carl... he's not challenging Negan... he's just calm and unphased. What do you do with that? And then, yeah, the reason that Rick isn't able to stand up and fight is because he is emotionally all over the place. Maybe Gabriel can pass on a bit of that zen to Rick so that he can do something.

I have no idea why they ever choose Rick as the leader anyway, he's crap, he already had one breakdown when they got to the prison and now he's just thrown the towel in and is Negans bitch. Should have stuck with Shane :nono:

[user104658]

I have no idea why they ever choose Rick as the leader anyway, he's crap, he already had one breakdown when they got to the prison and now he's just thrown the towel in and is Negans bitch. Should have stuck with Shane :nono:

Thing is though, it sometimes feels like Rick actually knows all of that too. There was a moment in maybe season 4(?) where he basically realised that Shane was more cut out for surviving in that world than he ever was and he ironically became "more like Shane"... after insisting that Shane's ruthlessness was dangerous and partly using it as justification for killing him.

But it doesn't come naturally to him, hence periodically losing his ****.

[Niamh.]

Thing is though, it sometimes feels like Rick actually knows all of that too. There was a moment in maybe season 4(?) where he basically realised that Shane was more cut out for surviving in that world than he ever was and he ironically became "more like Shane"... after insisting that Shane's ruthlessness was dangerous and partly using it as justification for killing him.

But it doesn't come naturally to him, hence periodically losing his ****.

I could have told him way back in Season 1 to leave it to Shane :nono:

[Northern Monkey]

I think Gabriel might be a catalyst, I like that Negan finds him creepy :laugh:

That had us howling "creepy as sh@t" i think the line was:laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

Hoping for this tbh. I don't think they can kill off anymore of the older cast this season, atleast not till the very end anyway and Michonne is one of the best characters, better than Rick for certain

Michonne i think could be my fav character.She is a badass.I love samurai and she kind of reminds me of Kill Bill.

[Niamh.]

Michonne i think could be my fav character.She is a badass.I love samurai and she kind of reminds me of Kill Bill.

Yeah same, I really love her. Probably her, Daryl and Carol are my favourites. I need Daryl to snap out of his Negan comma soon though.

[Northern Monkey]

I have no idea why they ever choose Rick as the leader anyway, he's crap, he already had one breakdown when they got to the prison and now he's just thrown the towel in and is Negans bitch. Should have stuck with Shane :nono:

I think it's showing us just how unbelievably stressful Ricks job is.He has had the role of leader for a long time and it's taken its toll on him.I think even Shane(as ruthless as he was) would've struggled.He was emotionally unstable too.Rick always bounces back no matter how low he gets so he is strong in that respect.Many people maybe wouldn't have had his resilience.It's quite good i think that it's showing us his journey and it will make him stronger.Negan has pushed further than anyone else and has almost broken him but if Rick pulls through it then he will be a bad ass.He is keeping them alive atm when they're on the back foot.Maybe another leader would fight back at the wrong moment and get them all killed.

[Nicky91]

omg Carl pointing a gun at Negan's men, for a minute i thought Negan was going to kill him, but i personally don't think Negan is a really bad guy, he's just trying to survive with his group, with their own rules and laws, and i rather be on Negan's good side than his bad side :)


i got this hunch or gut feeling that Gregory and Jesus aren't really people you can trust

[Niamh.]

omg Carl pointing a gun at Negan's men, for a minute i thought Negan was going to kill him, but i personally don't think Negan is a really bad guy, he's just trying to survive with his group, with their own rules and laws, and i rather be on Negan's good side than his bad side :)


i got this hunch or gut feeling that Gregory and Jesus aren't really people you can trust

Really? :laugh:

[Niamh.]

I think it's showing us just how unbelievably stressful Ricks job is.He has had the role of leader for a long time and it's taken its toll on him.I think even Shane(as ruthless as he was) would've struggled.He was emotionally unstable too.Rick always bounces back no matter how low he gets so he is strong in that respect.Many people maybe wouldn't have had his resilience.It's quite good i think that it's showing us his journey and it will make him stronger.Negan has pushed further than anyone else and has almost broken him but if Rick pulls through it then he will be a bad ass.He is keeping them alive atm when they're on the back foot.Maybe another leader would fight back at the wrong moment and get them all killed.

I just can't stand Rick, never could, he's such a whinger and so dull :laugh:

[Lostie!]

I loved Shane as a character but I really don't think he'd have been a good leader. He was too unstable and frankly only cared about Lori and Carl. If you weren't one of those two, you'd have to be insane to willingly follow him knowing he'd willingly sacrifice you at the first chance. He was also way too hot-headed, he'd lead his people into danger more often than away from it.

He was probably a fine leader before Rick returned but since then it was a downward spiral.

[Nicky91]

Really? :laugh:

you can't justify that he murdered 2 men Glenn and Abe in cold blood, but Rick's group got this information on Negan from Gregory and Jesus, i don't really know if that was the right information, or just to let them fight to the death, like then Gregory and Jesus doesn't need to make their hands dirty


i think Ezekiel is a good guy, i really trust him and i hope he and Carol will have some sort of romance together :)

[Niamh.]

I loved Shane as a character but I really don't think he'd have been a good leader. He was too unstable and frankly only cared about Lori and Carl. If you weren't one of those two, you'd have to be insane to willingly follow him knowing he'd willingly sacrifice you at the first chance. He was also way too hot-headed, he'd lead his people into danger more often than away from it.

He was probably a fine leader before Rick returned but since then it was a downward spiral.

Well Rick stole his baby from him, no wonder he was upset :nono:

[Cherie]

I have no idea why they ever choose Rick as the leader anyway, he's crap, he already had one breakdown when they got to the prison and now he's just thrown the towel in and is Negans bitch. Should have stuck with Shane :nono:

I disagree I think all the events that have been layered on Rick it's more realistic that he suffers a crisis of confidence, I like that he is being portrayed as human and not some super hero

[Firewire]

I disagree I think all the events that have been layered on Rick it's more realistic that he suffers a crisis of confidence, I like that he is being portrayed as human and not some super hero

I agree

I don't understand why people dislike Rick so much

[Jessica.]

The only reason anyone prefers Shane is because they shallowly think Shane is hotter. :idc:

[Firewire]

He's not

Shane was useless, so overrated

[Niamh.]

I agree

I don't understand why people dislike Rick so much

He's a whiner and he's boring

The only reason anyone prefers Shane is because they shallowly think Shane is hotter. :idc:

I think Shane is hotter and would have been a better leader too. If I was basing my favourites on who i think is the hottest then Negan would be my favourite character right now :hee:

[Lostie!]

I much prefer Shane as a character because I found him a lot more interesting to watch, nothing to do with who's "hotter".

But if we're talking about the better leader I'd say Rick any day.

[Niamh.]

I much prefer Shane as a character because I found him a lot more interesting to watch, nothing to do with who's "hotter".

But if we're talking about the better leader I'd say Rick any day.

I disagree, Shane was way ahead of the game on what needed to be done

[Lostie!]

I disagree, Shane was way ahead of the game on what needed to be done

For his own survival (and of the very few people he cared about) sure. For the survival of a group who depend on him? No chance would he be any good for that. :laugh:

[Firewire]

Shane was all about himself