Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X [Season 33]

[Macie Lightfoot]

Doubt it since it's a 6 person funale, those are already rushed as it is.

[LukeB]

Well that was a rushed episode but it was kinda good but this season is actually okay. Will and Sunday going was fantastic, but tbh it's going to feel like it was only one because Sunday was non-existent on the episode and pretty much majority of the season.

[JerseyWins]

Fingers crossed we have the survivor auction as the next reward challenge, here for Jay stealing the advantage from Adam because we all know he is gonna wait and buy it , then for jay to take out the next immunity win to take his spot in the final 5.
Oh yeah, I forgot about Adam giving Jay the reward challenge advantage thing. That would be awesome if Jay's able to use it for something game-relevant like in the auction.

[MB.]

Well would you look at who Figgy's now BFFs with

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[MB.]

I think that Kristie's forgetting she isn't actually part of the Millennials vs. Gen X cast (also I'm sure she's invited herself along to the finale, which lol :love:)

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[MB.]

Aaand here's a picture of Cirie, Sandra and some fans on a bus:

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[MB.]

~quadruple post because nobody cares about this ****hole of a season~

The cast did a mannequin challenge which is still a thing somehow:

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[Jack_]

Legends only

[Headie]

Michaela gleefully strangling whatsherface <3

[MB.]

whatsherface

WHAT?!?.gif

[reece(:]

Not Paul reading his biker bible

[JerseyWins]

I can't wait for this. :dance: Even excited for the reunion show (which I've never cared much about / usually skip) since the cast for S34 will officially be revealed. :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

Aaand here's a picture of Cirie, Sandra and some fans on a bus:

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Sooooo many legends. Who is that in the back right though? And that's not a "she's irrelevant" joke/comment, I just really don't recognize her. :shrug:

[reece(:]

I'll be watching tonight for the first time since Michaela's boot

[MB.]

Sooooo many legends. Who is that in the back right though? And that's not a "she's irrelevant" joke/comment, I just really don't recognize her. :shrug:

Sandra's daughter, I think

[JerseyWins]

Oh, that makes sense then. :joker: I thought she was someone from Survivor.

[MB.]

Oh, that makes sense then. :joker: I thought she was someone from Survivor.

She will be, come Blood vs. Water III :clap1:

[AarynGriesfan]

Aaand here's a picture of Cirie, Sandra and some fans on a bus:

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That final 6 > this season's final 6!

[JerseyWins]

So how does this work btw... the cast of S34 has already played out their season right? Then tonight they act like they haven't actually played yet?

[MB.]

Yeah, it was filmed six months ago

[Macie Lightfoot]

This is the least excited for a season finale since... Cambodia actually so not all that long ago alol

[JerseyWins]

Every once in a while Bret is just randomly hilarious out of nowhere. :joker: :joker: :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Bret is off to an amazing start this episode. :joker:

[reece(:]

Lmao Brett

[Jack_]

Did David really just get compared to Osama bin Laden rofl

[Jack_]

LEGEND David

[reece(:]

Jay is a fool, blindside for him coming up

[JerseyWins]

Jay :(

[Macie Lightfoot]

k so if it wasn't obvious from that scene and the opening montage (and the entire merge really)... David is WINNING

[JerseyWins]

I feel like David might get taken out #6 tbh. For sure if Jay wins the immunity challenge. I'm feeling an Adam win.

[JerseyWins]

Wait, is Ken able to use that immunity on someone else?

[reece(:]

Editing seems all over the place, that Ken advantage segment lasted like 15 seconds.. seems so disjointed

[JerseyWins]

Lol Jay choking

[JerseyWins]

Ok so there goes Jay

[reece(:]

Jay is done for :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

belated thoughts from Probst's bull**** monologue at the beginning, and one of my least favorite things about this season is everyone insisting that the level of gameplay has been AMAZING and SO ADVANCED when like... that's not really true at all? Like even when we had the rock draw, Probst got all meta at Tribal Council and just stood back in awe like "WOW!!!!! TEN LEGITIMATE GAMEPLAYERS THIS SEASON WE HAVE NEVER HAD THIS BEFORE!!!" when the rock draw only happened because like six different people all made Bad Moves one after the other.

[Jack_]

The legacy advantage might have some merit if the original founder lasted 36 days to warrant immunity, seems a bit pointless if it's just handed down

[reece(:]

Jay can go if he's gunning for Brett

[reece(:]

"We were just talking about you guys"

Hannah :joker:

[reece(:]

Who's even aligned? They all seem all over the place

[JerseyWins]

Jay just KEEPS trying to get Adam on his side... :joker:

[Jack_]

'I'm a consistent maybe' :joker:

[JerseyWins]

'I'm a consistent maybe' :joker:
:joker:

[reece(:]

Jessica Bland <3

[Jack_]

Jeff: 'Really?'

:joker: :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Daaaaamn :joker:

[reece(:]

CLOCKED

[reece(:]

Poor Jess

[reece(:]

Brett needs to win the next immunity, not here for predictability

[reece(:]

Michaela's Revenge!

[JerseyWins]

Jay is awesome :clap1:

[reece(:]

It was soooo evident Jay was going from the first two mins :joker::joker:

[reece(:]

Probst spoiling David's impeding win?

[Macie Lightfoot]

oh GOD shut up Jeff "that really captures the level of gameplay this season!!!" yes, Jay fell for a fake Idol that had no note with it, truly great gameplay :)

Also... why the hell did they bring ****ing ZEKE back next season instead of someone like Jay? You know, maybe go for someone likable? Someone who actually mattered in the broader context of this season?

[reece(:]

why am I stanning BRETT

[Jack_]

screaming the tribals have been thoroughly entertaining this season

[Macie Lightfoot]

Ken writing down Justin :love:

[reece(:]

MESS at straight to the next immunity challenge

Brett is obvs going

[JerseyWins]

I'm rooting for the predictable David win now.

Although if it's possible for Hannah to win that would be amazing. :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

can we talk about how the puzzle phrase is "not a participation trophy" .........so embarrassing.

[JerseyWins]

David has to be screwed if he doesn't win immunity here..

Also, I guess I'd be happy with anyone left winning. Although with Adam it's only because I feel sympathetic towards him with his mom having cancer. The rest of them I actually really like.

[reece(:]

I want David to go so it gets unpredictable

[Macie Lightfoot]

yikes that puzzle phrases was a new low for this show. Jumped another shark I didn't even know existed #WhatGenerationRU #HowDoYouText

[JerseyWins]

Bret has been reeeally good in this finale lol.

[reece(:]

Bret going on and on about the crazies :joker: Have they really been that bad?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Can't wait for the F5 Immunity puzzle to be something about the alt-right in Season 35!

[Jack_]

Can't wait for the F5 Immunity puzzle to be something about the alt-right in Season 35!

:joker:

[Jack_]

#MakeSurvivorGreatAgain

[reece(:]

Survivor: Democrats vs Republicans coming soon!

[JerseyWins]

Adam is winning?

[Jack_]

omg if David gets idoled out now I'm gonna be ****ing FUMING

[Macie Lightfoot]

that Hannah confessional :joker:

[reece(:]

Bye if Hannah gives David the final pass

[JerseyWins]

Hannah :joker:

Wait... so maybe Hannah/David/Ken vote out Bret if Hannah tells them Adam has the idol?

[reece(:]

Prays for Bret

[JerseyWins]

This is crazy if David manages to stay. :joker:

[reece(:]

I see Dave staying

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm still wondering what happened to this show where someone can just stumble upon a HII at the final five.

[JerseyWins]

I'm still wondering what happened to this show where someone can just stumble upon a HII at the final five.
:joker: :joker: :joker:

[JerseyWins]

LOL that's unbelievable. :joker: David deserves to win :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

LMAOOOO @ Bret :laugh3:

[reece(:]

That was SO obvious

[reece(:]

SCALP them Bret :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

Bret was legendary in this finale. :clap1:

[Jack_]

YAAASSS come through Hannah

[Macie Lightfoot]

k so Hannah is the 3rd place goat because no one will respect her game bc sexism still exists, Ken will maybe get a vote from Jessica but that's abuot it, David wins 9-1-0 or 10-0-0.

This is actually what I predicted a few weeks ago, but this is totally NOT how I expected us to get to this point.

[reece(:]

Hannah is cancelled not here for this predictable ending...

[JerseyWins]

This is actually what I predicted a few weeks ago, but this is totally NOT how I expected us to get to this point.
In a bad way?

These tribal councils (and buildup to them) have been extremely entertaining almost all season long.

[reece(:]

Welp not the wind ruining them

[reece(:]

Gaia being the true winner this season :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

So it's gonna go 2-2 in the final vote?

I mean I could still see Adam winning this season. :shrug:

Ken & Hannah can't really be ruled out either though if they decide to turn on David and it's an Adam/Hannah/Ken final 3.

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's either gonna be Adam going home in a tiebreaker or Adam going home because Hannah just wants to tank her chances of getting any jury votes even more, and then David steamrolls everyone at the FTC.s

[reece(:]

I don't get Z*** returning when he's basically been a non -factor

[Jack_]

Again, if David goes home on fire NOW I'll be fuming

Come through once more please Hannah

[Jack_]

Not Hunted the US version

[reece(:]

Ken playing a Woo game

[Macie Lightfoot]

Ken playing a 2000 game in 2016 :love::love::love: what an angel

[reece(:]

"Hopefully trying to convince him to vote Dave"

*Meanwhile Ken is underwater and Hannah is walking around in the water*

[reece(:]

Not more "crazies" foreshadowing

Ken and Hannah are gonna get it hard by the jury :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

last potential BIG MOVE of the season being blocked by someone who is playing Survivor like it is the year 2000 :love:

[reece(:]

Bret looked better with the beard

[Jack_]

FFS must this finale be so stressful

[Macie Lightfoot]

FFS must this finale be so stressful

hun trust in the foreshadowing...x

[Macie Lightfoot]

LMFAO WHAT

x

[reece(:]

Shook at Ken

[Macie Lightfoot]

so our winner really has to be Adam of all people???

[Jack_]

good ****ing GOD delete it

[reece(:]

WHY is David not returning and Z*** is FFS

[Jack_]

WHY is David not returning and Z*** is FFS

.

[reece(:]

"He should've been first out"

On what grounds? :think:

[Jack_]

ugh **** Ken, people who whine on about 'loyalty' usually always end up falling victim to their own hypocrisy

[JerseyWins]

This finale is nuts :joker:

Adam being the winner is like the first time my gut has been right this season lolol.

(although maybe Ken could win I just highly doubt it especially after Adam reveals that his mom has cancer... I don't expect Hannah to get votes unfortunately)

[Jack_]

hun trust in the foreshadowing...x

Now will you please stop telling me who is winning because it either spoils the season or makes me think someone's safe when they're not

[reece(:]

Perched for David's jury speech

[reece(:]

Maybe they will edit out Sunday's speech altogether

[Jack_]

At least if it's not David, it's Adam

...I hope

[Jack_]

I actually can't get over why David wasn't invited back wtf

[JerseyWins]

Maybe they will edit out Sunday's speech altogether
:laugh3:

[reece(:]

Not Ken speaking about Millennials as if he isn't 33

[JerseyWins]

I actually can't get over why David wasn't invited back wtf
Probably in the future :clap1:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Hope this puts the whole "no edgic talk because it's spoilers!!!" framework to rest because literally no one this season had an edgically viable edit. Especially not anyone in this final three alol

[reece(:]

Hannah to become a Bennett?

[reece(:]

Adam will probably win because of all the mother illness focus

[reece(:]

I hate how they don't do opening statements anymore

[Jack_]

Hope this puts the whole "no edgic talk because it's spoilers!!!" framework to rest because literally no one this season had an edgically viable edit. Especially not anyone in this final three alol

Not really, because as I said if it's not true then it gives me false hope, and if it is it ruins the season. Either way I'd rather not know

I've never said no edgic talk, just asked for anything that pertains to who wins to be put in spoiler tags. I really don't think that's unreasonable either

[Macie Lightfoot]

The most emblematic thing about this being Trump's America will be when Facebook celebrates Adam's win after completely trashing Jeremy for bringing up Val's pregnancy one year ago #MakeAmericaWhiteAgain

[reece(:]

The most Sunday has spoke in the whole show?

[reece(:]

Here for Hannah's fight

[reece(:]

Bye at Ken taking out David being used against him :joker:

[reece(:]

Will has a face you want to smack

[Macie Lightfoot]

oh god I did NOT miss Zeke at all

[reece(:]

Z*** is utter trash

LEAVE KEN ALONE

[Macie Lightfoot]

This is definitely a bottom 10 jury question of all time.

[reece(:]

Glad this is more of a debate and there's fight :clap1: You never see that often

[JerseyWins]

I could actually see Adam losing now. :joker: I don't think he's doing a very good job so far.

[reece(:]

YAS Hannah has balls!

[Macie Lightfoot]

lmfao does Hannah win now? Adam has NOT been coming off well at all and he's just whining about Hannah playing her own game under the ruse of her "making blunders."

Let's see what happens when the cancer card gets played though. Adam is so off-putting that it might not do anything :joker:

[reece(:]

Bret being an abrasive mess

[reece(:]

Why is Adam getting praise for turning Ken? Ken has his own mind

[JerseyWins]

So it doesn't really look like Ken will win then. Hannah's chances went up but it looks like an Adam win almost for sure with that finish.

[reece(:]

Adam wins with the story

[Macie Lightfoot]

lmfao **** this **** it's gonna be unanimous

[Macie Lightfoot]

2016: At least Morgan beat Jason

[reece(:]

Hannah Bracco

[reece(:]

Hannah had no chance against anyone </3

[reece(:]

Ken looks shook

[JerseyWins]

Awwwww :( RIP Adam's mom </3

[reece(:]

WELP at them going straight to David and ignoring Hannah/Ken

[reece(:]

Makes it all the more baffling that David isn't returning

[reece(:]

GoodBYE at them going to Z*** straight away too

[Macie Lightfoot]

why is Zeke getting a montage he literally has NO personality and did not play a good game and did not transform at all??? Or are we just going to work into a trans reveal now

[reece(:]

Can Hannah have her time yet

Or Michaela

[reece(:]

NOT MORE Z*** AFTER THE BREAK

Are they ****ing kidding

[Macie Lightfoot]

The biggest part about The Edit that doesn't make sense is that the early merge had two episodes where Adam's own allies called him stupid and annoying and openly talked about how they wished they could get rid of him. And then he wins unanimously. That's the part that makes no sense.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Are we going to get the Zeke trans moment now?

Also, WHY is Ken sitting in Hannah's second place seat wtf

[reece(:]

Finally, Hannah and Ken <3

[reece(:]

Legend Michaela :clap1:

[Macie Lightfoot]

did anyone else notice this exchange

Adam: *uncontrollably sobbing* SHE DIED ONE HOUR AFTER I GOT HOME
*camera pans to Adam's family ugly crying in the audience*
Jeff: that's awesome :) :) :) *segue into David's journey montage*

[reece(:]

NOT Sunday getting reunion airtime

[Macie Lightfoot]

so Jeff's question was basically just like... "Sunday, you're a mom. How on EARTH can you possibly play a game like Survivor?!?!?!" yikes!

[reece(:]

Michelle getting robbed of a Mythical Dragon question over CHRIS

[Macie Lightfoot]

"We love Fiji so much because it is SO BEAUTIFUL (except in Season 14 where it's hideous) that we're going back again (not because we're cheap and need to save money)"

Congrats to Malcolm for getting the first BIG MOVEZ of the season!!!

[reece(:]

Cirie's weave <3

[Macie Lightfoot]

"CIERA... SHE VOTED OUT HER MOM!!!"

I hate this season already.

[reece(:]

Game Changer Hali!

[reece(:]

Where are Game Changers Brad, Sierra and Troyzan at?

[reece(:]

Jeff going to Michelle after getting twitter hate?

[Jack_]

Why did they say Michaela's on the next season but not Zeke? Very strange

[reece(:]

Hopefully cos Z*** is first boot

[Macie Lightfoot]

Not really, because as I said if it's not true then it gives me false hope, and if it is it ruins the season. Either way I'd rather not know

I've never said no edgic talk, just asked for anything that pertains to who wins to be put in spoiler tags. I really don't think that's unreasonable either

But it's not a spoiler so why should it have to go in spoiler tags? There were no spoilers for Kaoh Rong or for this season, so there was nothing that needed to go in spoiler tags, except for who's going to be on next season maybe. I just don't see how winner speculation isn't natural when the show's whole purpose is to lead up to one winner. I don't see how it's any different from people looking at Tellymix polls and Facebook likes when trying to predict BBUK evictions and winners. Nothing's being spoiled, it's just people speculating and trying to make educated guesses.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Also, further evidence of WINCHELE's impact: Jeff still being so mad about Kaoh Rong that he had to throw Michelle a random question just to get confirmation that Millennials vs. Gen X had a less bitter cast and thus it is an objectively better season than Kaoh Rong. Get a ****ing grip.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Also, trust me that I have a lot of #thots on this funale and this outcome and one of my personal favorite hot topics, SEXISM ON SURVIVOR, but to avoid the risk of talking to myself, I'll wait until tomorrow when more people watch and post their thoughts and then maybe I'll yell at someone and have a reason to post idk!

[JerseyWins]

A few final thoughts on the season... a quality season (without a doubt top half of the ones I've seen at least; I'd have to really think about it past that) and one of the best finales I've seen. Action packed.

Disappointing winner but it really wasn't that bad especially as a feel good moment and all.

[Jack_]

But it's not a spoiler so why should it have to go in spoiler tags? There were no spoilers for Kaoh Rong or for this season, so there was nothing that needed to go in spoiler tags, except for who's going to be on next season maybe. I just don't see how winner speculation isn't natural when the show's whole purpose is to lead up to one winner. I don't see how it's any different from people looking at Tellymix polls and Facebook likes when trying to predict BBUK evictions and winners. Nothing's being spoiled, it's just people speculating and trying to make educated guesses.

Because I think this is the first time in several seasons that you've not called the winner correctly. That is tantamount to a spoiler, regardless of what method you are using, if you're correctly predicting winners way before I've even begun thinking about the endgame, it kind of spoils the flow of the season? I avoid spoilers for a reason, I don't understand why people look at them, and this works in exactly the same way. Either an ~unpredictable~ winner like Michele is called way earlier than I or most other people would expect, which takes away the potential blindside (even if the result would still annoy me), or people like David are signposted only for them to fall before they were supposed to.

You actually did post a spoiler that Adam got voted out (clearly wrong, but still) so that's not entirely true, and that's another part to this - when you're aware that someone reads spoilers, it is inevitable to think that any winner 'predictions' they're making may in part be influenced by what they know, which means I'm reading spoilers by proxy...and...no thanks?

There is a difference between me and a cat lady on Facebook making a blasé prediction that someone will win because they've been shown the most, and you making a prediction based off of an intricate analysis of the edit. Don't get me wrong, when the season is over I can find such analysis perfectly interesting and enjoyable...but when 9 times out of 10 it's right, it spoils the season when watching live.

I just don't understand the difficulty in wrapping a post pertaining to a winner prediction based off the edit in a spoiler tag? Like, not to beat around the bush here, but it's just a bit twatty to continue? Is it really that unaccomadating a request?

[AarynGriesfan]

2016: At least Morgan beat Jason

Not you leaving out Michele winning.

[Calderyon]

Way to go Adam, 10-0-0, that´s amazing. Deserving winner in the end. :clap1:

Although all of the ones that made final 4/5 would have deserved to win in my opinion. Except Brett of course.

[LukeB]

Because I think this is the first time in several seasons that you've not called the winner correctly. That is tantamount to a spoiler, regardless of what method you are using, if you're correctly predicting winners way before I've even begun thinking about the endgame, it kind of spoils the flow of the season? I avoid spoilers for a reason, I don't understand why people look at them, and this works in exactly the same way. Either an ~unpredictable~ winner like Michele is called way earlier than I or most other people would expect, which takes away the potential blindside (even if the result would still annoy me), or people like David are signposted only for them to fall before they were supposed to.

You actually did post a spoiler that Adam got voted out (clearly wrong, but still) so that's not entirely true, and that's another part to this - when you're aware that someone reads spoilers, it is inevitable to think that any winner 'predictions' they're making may in part be influenced by what they know, which means I'm reading spoilers by proxy...and...no thanks?

There is a difference between me and a cat lady on Facebook making a blasé prediction that someone will win because they've been shown the most, and you making a prediction based off of an intricate analysis of the edit. Don't get me wrong, when the season is over I can find such analysis perfectly interesting and enjoyable...but when 9 times out of 10 it's right, it spoils the season when watching live.

I just don't understand the difficulty in wrapping a post pertaining to a winner prediction based off the edit in a spoiler tag? Like, not to beat around the bush here, but it's just a bit twatty to continue? Is it really that unaccomadating a request?

Yeah this, its one of the reasons why i don't come on this thread during the show(the whining from one member also plays a part) because there's always a "so and so is going because of the edit" or "this edit must mean so and so won" it just ruins the whole thing.

[VanessaFeltz.]

yas SANDRA

[starry]

When Dave was voted out I just skipped to the winner vote, I assume Adam was crying again in his final speech. I suppose it was kind of satisfying that Ken was ignored at the reunion, though it would have been interesting to have had him questioned about why he thought he was beat Adam. Probst made an indirect comment about the 'only person who was loyal' perhaps when he talked to Jessica. Though Jessica was silly giving the heritage advantage to Ken when Dave had saved her. Also drawing rocks saved Hannah (from what I remember) and not Dave like they seemed to suggest on the show.

Probst goes on way too much about how people develop on the show, and the usual boring US approach of trying to find messages/moral examples for people.

The final challenge sadly was not designed that well, the wind should not decide challenges. But I do like how they didn't make all the individual immunity challenges balancing with strength.

A lot was made of Jay not covering his number, but from what I heard there were only about six combinations or something, so I'm not sure the challenge was completely decided there. The final puzzle was really the main thing.

On returnees
Sandra - never a fan, very under the radar.
Caleb - he's returning for the same reason he was on first time, because he was on Big Brother. He never changed any game, or even started any game.
Ozzie - thought he was done with it, wonder why the change. Found him very rootable on redemption island, boring before that though.

[JTM45]

I was gutted about who won!:fist:
I personally thought either of the other two would have been a more deserving winner. Adam played a very average game and just relied on the pity votes (a unanimous Adam vote in some small way makes it a tiny bit more understandable how Americans voted for Trump to be their next President!).
Seemed to me like the Survivor producers liked the Cancer angle to Adams pity party gameplay so much that they were running 100 yards ahead of him and hiding idols directly in his path. I'm surprised they didn't incorporate flashing lights into those coconuts.
The way he was painting other people making different choices to him in the game as flawed judgement (because it didn't personally suit his agenda!) was pathetic, especially as most of the jury members appeared to fall for it. And a jury member pretty much trying to tell every other jury member that they should all vote for him was ludicrous. Pretty much the whole of the jury segment of the episode seemed like it was scripted to massively favour Adam. Absolute bollocks!
Not since the days of X Factor past have i been so disgusted at someone using a family members terminal illness to increase their chances of winning a large chunk of cash.:nono:

[caprimint]

Ken lost my support voting out David at the end. He's stuck to being 'loyal' sure, but if you're not gonna carry it through till the end (when it really matters) then you can't really own it. I'm actually shocked and so were a lot of people I think.

Adam was the right winner, he was my initial fave from day 1 and he played an excellent game. :lovedup:

Hannah sounded delusional in her speeches thinking she'd made more of an impact on the game than the other two.

[MB.]

Bret comparing David to Bin Laden in the first five minutes of the finale <3 Actually Bret went down slightly in my rankings after his jury question (as did Zeke - sorry, Z*** - and by 'went down slightly' I mean 'rocketed to the bottom'), but I'm still a fan of him in all his drunkgayness. I was shocked at David going in fourth, but I guess that's just symbolic of how all over the place the editing's been this season... at least most people got to speak at the reunion I guess?

Ken and Hannah :love: I ship it #itscomplicated

Adam's... not the greatest winner, but I'm happy for him given you-know-what and I'm happy to eat my words, given that I said only a few days ago that he didn't have a chance

Game Changers looks okay considering that it's got so much going against it already, although I fear that Cirie nearly decking it is going to be where it peaks (plus Malcolm already getting the #BIGMOVEZ edit is disappointing, because even though he's overrated by Probst and casuals, I still kinda like him) (also Debbie not being featured in the promo proves she wins, right?)

[MB.]

oh **** no Ken's dating Jenn Brown, everything is cancelled

[JerseyWins]

I would've never expected Ken & Jenn to be dating. :joker: They seem like very different people but nice pair though nonetheless. :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

Oh and why are people censoring Zeke's name?

[AarynGriesfan]

oh **** no Ken's dating Jenn Brown, everything is cancelled


Wait is this an actual thing?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Hannah sounded delusional in her speeches thinking she'd made more of an impact on the game than the other two.

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the Jury's notion that trying to vote out David at F5 but failing to do so is a better move than actually voting David out at F4 but wow, surprise surprise that a Jury has a tough time recognizing A Woman's Game

[starry]

I was gutted about who won!:fist:
I personally thought either of the other two would have been a more deserving winner. Adam played a very average game and just relied on the pity votes (a unanimous Adam vote in some small way makes it a tiny bit more understandable how Americans voted for Trump to be their next President!).
Seemed to me like the Survivor producers liked the Cancer angle to Adams pity party gameplay so much that they were running 100 yards ahead of him and hiding idols directly in his path. I'm surprised they didn't incorporate flashing lights into those coconuts.
The way he was painting other people making different choices to him in the game as flawed judgement (because it didn't personally suit his agenda!) was pathetic, especially as most of the jury members appeared to fall for it. And a jury member pretty much trying to tell every other jury member that they should all vote for him was ludicrous. Pretty much the whole of the jury segment of the episode seemed like it was scripted to massively favour Adam. Absolute bollocks!
Not since the days of X Factor past have i been so disgusted at someone using a family members terminal illness to increase their chances of winning a large chunk of cash.:nono:

Glad I never listened to the speeches/questions.

It did seem strange if they really did plant that idol right at the end. It was strange that nobody seemed to wonder where he had gone that much, he must have found it quickly.

I still don't get why Adam went on Survivor if there was a serious chance his mother would have died while he was away. For all his talk about how finding some idols proves himself to his family he seems to have been quite lucky he got back before she died.

[MB.]

Wait is this an actual thing?

Apparently so (or according to his Twitter, at least, maybe)

[AarynGriesfan]

Apparently so (or according to his Twitter, at least, maybe)

Gross way to aim low Ken!

[AarynGriesfan]

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the Jury's notion that trying to vote out David at F5 but failing to do so is a better move than actually voting David out at F4 but wow, surprise surprise that a Jury has a tough time recognizing A Woman's Game

I am all for woman power but Hannah was a mess out there. But I do think it was a mistake not to vote out David at 5. Because if he wins f4 immunity he wins the game. Plus you have to rely on Ken voting out his best friend which he had been unwilling to do all game long. Way to big of a risk to take. In the end it worked out but I think it was the wrong way to go about it.

[starry]

It worked out for Adam to win that was all lol, and he wasn't even deserving.

[caprimint]

I would've never expected Ken & Jenn to be dating. :joker: They seem like very different people but nice pair though nonetheless. :clap1:
Yeah same :laugh: Great couple though, my faves (alongside Adam this season) of their seasons :love:

[caprimint]

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the Jury's notion that trying to vote out David at F5 but failing to do so is a better move than actually voting David out at F4 but wow, surprise surprise that a Jury has a tough time recognizing A Woman's Game
I'm talking about the game as a whole. Hannah wasn't relevant for a good few weeks, she was never confident about any moves she made and never made a mark on the game like Adam did. It's not because of her gender. :facepalm:

[LukeB]

I still don't get why Adam went on Survivor if there was a serious chance his mother would have died while he was away. For all his talk about how finding some idols proves himself to his family he seems to have been quite lucky he got back before she died.

I think he went on it because it's one of his dreams to do it and getting on survivor doesn't come around everyday and I guess his mum told him to do it because as a parent she wants to see their children fulfil their dreams and be happy and if she died while he was away he knows she died being proud of him and happy.

[MB.]

I am all for woman power but Hannah was a mess out there. But I do think it was a mistake not to vote out David at 5. Because if he wins f4 immunity he wins the game. Plus you have to rely on Ken voting out his best friend which he had been unwilling to do all game long. Way to big of a risk to take. In the end it worked out but I think it was the wrong way to go about it.

I'll never understand basing something like that on hypotheticals in Survivor - like, you could say not taking out Chris pre-merge was a mistake because he could have gone on an immunity run until the end. He didn't, and saying it doesn't make it valid nor does it discredit anyone still in the game, aka Hannah (which is why this jury was a ****ing dumb jury)

(ps Troy I love you but your opinions are good enough that you don't have to take your posts from CTS)

[AarynGriesfan]

I'll never understand basing something like that on hypotheticals in Survivor - like, you could say not taking out Chris pre-merge was a mistake because he could have gone on an immunity run until the end. He didn't, and saying it doesn't make it valid nor does it discredit anyone still in the game, aka Hannah (which is why this jury was a ****ing dumb jury)

(ps Troy I love you but your opinions are good enough that you don't have to take your posts from CTS)


There's a huge difference from only having to win the final challenge to going on a long immunity run.

[MB.]

There's a huge difference from only having to win the final challenge to going on a long immunity run.

But they're still both hypotheticals which didn't happen, it doesn't matter how elaborate they may be if a jury are basing their votes on the possibility of fictitious events

[AarynGriesfan]

But they're still both hypotheticals which didn't happen, it doesn't matter how elaborate they may be if a jury are basing their votes on the possibility of fictitious events

No **** it didn't happen wtf kind of post is? But leaving the best player in the game for as long as they did and voting out people that had no shot at winning instead of him is bad gameplay even if it ends up working out in the end.

[reece(:]

Didn't Bret have a good shot at winning though?...

[MB.]

No **** it didn't happen wtf kind of post is? But leaving the best player in the game for as long as they did and voting out people that had no shot at winning instead of him is bad gameplay even if it ends up working out in the end.

lmao if you consider it "bad gameplay" to take a risk and cut the biggest competition when he was no longer useful just because it could have gone wrong then sure hun (they had the same dilemma with Bret and his popularity with the jury, so what's to say that David was better at balancing disks on a stick than he was? They could have just as easily been in a situation where THEY SHOULD HAVE CUT BRET WHILE THEY HAD THE CHANCE etc etc. See? Hypotheticals)

[Headie]

Didn't Bret have a good shot at winning though?...

Hannah and Ken were always gonna be goats regardless of who they sat next to out of the other 4 finalists tbh so did it really even matter what they did?

[AarynGriesfan]

Didn't Bret have a good shot at winning though?...

Ehh not sure about Brett winning depends on who he is sitting next to. If it's Ken and Hannah he wins but I doubt he beats anyone else.

[MB.]

Ehh not sure about Brett winning depends on who he is sitting next to. If it's Ken and Hannah he wins but I doubt he beats anyone else.

I don't think it'd be of much interest to Ken and Hannah that Bret wouldn't win against anyone else when they were likely being dragged to the end no matter what

[AarynGriesfan]

I don't think it'd be of much interest to Ken and Hannah that Bret wouldn't win against anyone else when they were likely being dragged to the end no matter what

So your premise is that Hannah and Ken knew they weren't going to win no matter what and they chose to go with Adam because they wanted him to win the most?

[MB.]

So your premise is that Hannah and Ken knew they weren't going to win no matter what and they chose to go with Adam because they wanted him to win the most?

...no? But Ken's risky strategy of taking David as far as he benefitted his game and then cutting him at the final turn is the only thing which could possibly have won him some votes, had he played it better at FTC (hypotheticals are fun!), so he didn't have any other options

And Hannah actually played it well at FTC so the fact that the jury chose to reward Adam for failing to do the same thing, albeit a day earlier, instead was out of her control (plus, it would have been pointless for Hannah and Ken to go with Bret and Adam when they were aligned at the precious vote, since they'd either have a) voted together against either Hannah or Ken or b) vied against one another to take both Hannah and Ken as the goats they were, which the jury would have lapped up)

[AarynGriesfan]

...no? But Ken's risky strategy of taking David as far as he benefitted his game and then cutting him at the final turn is the only thing which could possibly have won him some votes, had he played it better at FTC (hypotheticals are fun!), so he didn't have any other options

And Hannah actually played it well at FTC so the fact that the jury chose to reward Adam for failing to do the same thing, albeit a day earlier, instead was out of her control (plus, it would have been pointless for Hannah and Ken to go with Bret and Adam when they were aligned at the precious vote, since they'd either have a) voted together against either Hannah or Ken or b) vied against one another to take both Hannah and Ken as the goats they were, which the jury would have lapped up)

Convincing the jury to vote for you is not out of your control.

[MB.]

Convincing the jury to vote for you is not out of your control.

Then what else should Hannah have done to win at least one vote against Adam Of All People?

[AarynGriesfan]

Then what else should Hannah have done to win at least one vote against Adam Of All People?

Not play such a lousy game that everyone wants to take you to the end because they know they will beat you?

[MB.]

Not play such a lousy game that everyone wants to take you to the end because they know they will beat you?

So you're saying she was such a goat that convincing the jury to vote for her at that moment was out of her control? :think:

(also "she should have played a better game to begin with" is the biggest hypothetical of all alol)

[AarynGriesfan]

So you're saying she was such a goat that convincing the jury to vote for her at that moment was out of her control? :think:
(also "she should have played a better game to begin with" is the biggest hypothetical of all alol)
Yes to the first statement.
She might not be capable of playing a better game that's a possibility I suppose. But you asked what should she have done better and there is a ton of things she should have done differently if she wanted to win whether she was capable of making those moves is a totally different question.

[starry]

I think he went on it because it's one of his dreams to do it and getting on survivor doesn't come around everyday and I guess his mum told him to do it because as a parent she wants to see their children fulfil their dreams and be happy and if she died while he was away he knows she died being proud of him and happy.

The problem with this is that he seemed very worried she would die while he was away (which very nearly happened). He would have taken that worry away by not leaving and maybe telling the producers he would be available for another season. If he was considered 'cast worthy' I assume they would have waited. As it was we had this situation were he went on about how finding an immunity idol was the greatest achievement ever by him lol, and the usual US crap about him being an example or whatever. It's overblown nonsense, he didn't even play that good a game beyond finding a couple of idols.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think my biggest issue with the funale and the vote is that as a result of the ~BIG MOVES~ mentality that's been shoved down our throats, Adam trying to play the game but falling flat on his face (misplaying idols, coming up with plans that never worked, trying to align with people who wanted nothing to do with him) was unanimously more respected than Hannah and Ken, who certainly didn't play stellar games but actually accomplished things and/or kept themselves in solid positions the entire time. Like, the game that Adam wanted to play is completely different from the game he actually played, and I don't think it's entirely wrong to say he won on accident. The Jury Speaks videos are basically every single person saying that Adam will get their votes no matter what because even though he failed miserably, he tried to make ~BIG MOVEZ~. Can anyone name a big move he actually made? Because I've been thinking and I can't.

A bunch of people, not just Chris, praised Adam for being the one to convince Ken to flip at F4 which is so frustrating because that's not what we were shown at all. But yeah, sexism in Survivor definitely still exists so of course no one would think of giving Hannah any sort of credit for anything even though she got her way for every single vote since the rock draw. I'll give Adam credit for giving the Jury what they wanted to hear, but it wasn't that hard of a task.

I personally thought Hannah's FTC performance was solid and I loved her shutting Adam's **** down where he tried to take credit for things he didn't actually do, but it was never going to go anywhere unfortunately. Some people are saying her FTC performance was bad because she kept interrupting Adam and talking over him, but that was her only opportunity to say anything because all the questions were softballs lobbed at Adam to hit out of the park and the show did away with opening statements and closing statements because apparently Final Tribal Council is too boring and too much of a time-waster (even though they insist on stuffing the Jury with 10 jurors which makes no ****ing sense but that's for a whole nother post that will probably come in a few hours about everything wrong with this season and modern Survivor)

[AarynGriesfan]

I think my biggest issue with the funale and the vote is that as a result of the ~BIG MOVES~ mentality that's been shoved down our throats, Adam trying to play the game but falling flat on his face (misplaying idols, coming up with plans that never worked, trying to align with people who wanted nothing to do with him) was unanimously more respected than Hannah and Ken, who certainly didn't play stellar games but actually accomplished things and/or kept themselves in solid positions the entire time. Like, the game that Adam wanted to play is completely different from the game he actually played, and I don't think it's entirely wrong to say he won on accident. The Jury Speaks videos are basically every single person saying that Adam will get their votes no matter what because even though he failed miserably, he tried to make ~BIG MOVEZ~. Can anyone name a big move he actually made? Because I've been thinking and I can't.

A bunch of people, not just Chris, praised Adam for being the one to convince Ken to flip at F4 which is so frustrating because that's not what we were shown at all. But yeah, sexism in Survivor definitely still exists so of course no one would think of giving Hannah any sort of credit for anything even though she got her way for every single vote since the rock draw. I'll give Adam credit for giving the Jury what they wanted to hear, but it wasn't that hard of a task.

I personally thought Hannah's FTC performance was solid and I loved her shutting Adam's **** down where he tried to take credit for things he didn't actually do, but it was never going to go anywhere unfortunately. Some people are saying her FTC performance was bad because she kept interrupting Adam and talking over him, but that was her only opportunity to say anything because all the questions were softballs lobbed at Adam to hit out of the park and the show did away with opening statements and closing statements because apparently Final Tribal Council is too boring and too much of a time-waster (even though they insist on stuffing the Jury with 10 jurors which makes no ****ing sense but that's for a whole nother post that will probably come in a few hours about everything wrong with this season and modern Survivor)

Alright I don't really wanna defend Adam too much because he is far from my favorite and I don't think he is that great of a winner. I may have cast my vote for Ken instead of Adam but Adam played the game that this jury respected the most. What I will say about Adam is that I think he had the right ideas but he often did fail at executing the moves. That meant more to this jury then what Hannah and Ken brought to the table. I don't really blame them for voting for Adam because the other 2 weren't very good options.

[MB.]

Lucy should have won for making the #bigmove of failing to take out Jessica imo

[Macie Lightfoot]

Alright I don't really wanna defend Adam too much because he is far from my favorite and I don't think he is that great of a winner. I may have cast my vote for Ken instead of Adam but Adam played the game that this jury respected the most. What I will say about Adam is that I think he had the right ideas but he often did fail at executing the moves. That meant more to this jury then what Hannah and Ken brought to the table. I don't really blame them for voting for Adam because the other 2 weren't very good options.

No definitely, like I said, to Adam's credit he did do a good job at appealing to the Jury and giving them what they wanted, whether he was actively trying to do so or not. However, the part that's frustrating is that the Jury dismissed any possibility of Hannah playing a good game because of asinine **** like "she's a flipper" and "she took David out but not when we wanted her to." Hannah jumps in and explains "no, I actually did make these moves and here is why they were good for my game" and the Jury just puts their fingers in their ears and ignores it all. Like, the Jury probably thought that the optimal time for Hannah to get rid of David was at F7 or something, but then she would've gotten credit for making A Big Move and then become the next target and get taken out? Sure, perception is reality, but I think a lot of the perceptions come from some casual sexism ingrained into this show.

[rk3388]

Just caught up and easily my favourite winner of all time <3

[starry]

Easily among my worst winners. He'll be remembered as the 'dying mom' winner.

[Raph]

Decided to give this a watch. Rankings after episode 2:

1. Adam, the reason I decided to give this a shot
2. Ken
3. Mari
4. Hannah
5. Rachel
6. CeCe
7. Zeke
8. Lucy
9. Michaela
10. Bret
11. Jay
12. Will
13. Chris
14. Michelle
15. Taylor
16. Paul
17. Sunday
18. Jessica
19. David
20. Figgy :yuk:

[Raph]

Also /sob at the first two evictees both being asian girls :(

[MB.]

Figgy :love:

[JerseyWins]

Maybe it's bias but I do think Hannah kinda deserved to win over Adam. I think she should've won but I didn't think she had a chance with this jury, especially after keeping David in the game at F5 (I guess that could've been credited to Adam anyway but with the jury seeing Adam's reaction, they know he wanted David out at F5 and Hannah/Ken did it later at F4). If she took out David & then turned on Adam at F4, that's a game winner IMO.

With the way it actually went down, I think it's close but she probably deserved the win anyway because she was constantly on the right side of the vote, she had people play idols and draw rocks for her (in fairness this was more due to a numbers battle I think but still) and she knew when she was a target. She had very good awareness in the game.

Adam played a fine game though and I can't discredit that. As much as he made sloppy idol plays and trusted some of the wrong people, a lot of people wrongfully trusted in him as well and in the end he outplayed them all, including the player of the season, David. Adam was a pretty big target throughout but he situated himself pretty well to get by. I don't blame them for voting for Adam, even under normal circumstances, but especially after you add in his situation with his mom.

[Raph]

Adam, Hannah and Ken :love: my top three so far

[Firewire]

I'm catching up with this

Poor Jess getting voted out by a rock

David is a nutcase omg

[rk3388]

Adam, Hannah and Ken :love: my top three so far

You Have good taste :blush: And Dan and Keesha :clap2:

[JTM45]

Easily among my worst winners. He'll be remembered as the 'dying mom' winner.

Spot on Starry! :clap1:

I'm pretty sure there's nothing that i'd have put before being by my mother's side when she was terminally ill and would very possibly die before i returned.

There was no reason for Adam to mention his mother's cancer during the jury questions other than to gain pity votes. I got the impression that Jay had probably already discussed it with his fellow jury members anyway so Adam didn't need to worry.

As far as i was concerned Hannah's points (when she got a chance to speak) were far more compelling, if you could see through Adam's shameless sick Mother-whoring tactics, than Adam's were. How could anyone discount Hannah because she ''flip-flopped'' when Adam ****ed everyone over without a second thought ? Hannah showed a great deal of loyalty whereas Adam showed none, not even to his Mother.

[BBUKAUSFAN]

I feel like Hannah had similar game play to the Australian survivor winner Kristie They both used other peopled for to get there way even though it didn't seem like it. Hannah did try to portray it but her conviction wasn't there and her way of selling it didn't work coupled with the fact that the jury where oblivious to this and did no want to accept the fact that she did outplay them all.

Also the whole not voting David out at F5 is stupid, Say she did vote him out F5, So Bret/Adam/Ken left, Ken wins F4 again but no longer trust Hannah and teams up with the boys and votes her out because they want to save there own back and he lost his loyalties with her which is what his game is all about.

Adam is a Meh winner who will be forgotten and never brought back to play cause is game wasn't that great really.

(sorry for rambling)

[Macie Lightfoot]

Maybe it's bias but I do think Hannah kinda deserved to win over Adam. I think she should've won but I didn't think she had a chance with this jury, especially after keeping David in the game at F5 (I guess that could've been credited to Adam anyway but with the jury seeing Adam's reaction, they know he wanted David out at F5 and Hannah/Ken did it later at F4). If she took out David & then turned on Adam at F4, that's a game winner IMO.

With the way it actually went down, I think it's close but she probably deserved the win anyway because she was constantly on the right side of the vote, she had people play idols and draw rocks for her (in fairness this was more due to a numbers battle I think but still) and she knew when she was a target. She had very good awareness in the game.

Adam played a fine game though and I can't discredit that. As much as he made sloppy idol plays and trusted some of the wrong people, a lot of people wrongfully trusted in him as well and in the end he outplayed them all, including the player of the season, David. Adam was a pretty big target throughout but he situated himself pretty well to get by. I don't blame them for voting for Adam, even under normal circumstances, but especially after you add in his situation with his mom.

I just don't like the hypocrisies that this show is actively pushing forth. If the jury were really voting based on ~BIG MOVES~ then Hannah should/would have won. Instead, the show is actively sending a message that Adam trying but failing to play a flashy game makes him more deserving than Hannah and Ken playing more subtle and nuanced games. I know there have been a lot of posts so maybe I missed some, but I don't think anyone actually named anything that Adam accomplished in terms of making moves? The truth is, the game hasn't evolved at all and nothing has changed. Adam won because of his social game -- he was more liked than Hannah and Ken were and that's literally it. And there is nothing wrong with that at all! Every jury is bitter and every jury votes for the person they like most ultimately, and they rationalize it however they want. I just think it's really smarmy that the show is trying to sell Adam as an acceptable strategic winner when he won for his relationships with the jury (whether or not their perceptions were warped by the show forcing this idea of How Survivor Should Be Played is unknown but w/e).

It's especially hypocritical when you factor in the random question Michelle got at the end of the reunion that was like"wasn't this a great season because no one was bitter?????" basically subtweeting Michelle Fitzgerald. This jury was bitter as **** and no different than any other -- the only difference is that their bitterness allowed the show to push forth the narrative it wanted to about Adam heroically winning for his mother. I don't know, I just think this show has gotten more and more insulting because the edit is actively lying to the viewers and promoting this cognitive dissonance that isn't making the show any more pleasurable to watch.

[Raph]

After Episode 3:

1. Adam
2. Ken
3. Hannah
4. Chris
5. Michaela
6. CeCe
7. Lucy
8. Zeke
9. Will
10. Bret
11. Jay
12. Jessica
13. Michelle
14. Sunday
15. Taylor
16. Paul
17. David
18. Figgy gross lol

[LukeB]

great top 3 Raph, those are my top 3 in that order.

[EspeonBB]

1. Michaela
2-20. Everyone else

[Firewire]

1. Michaela
2-20. Everyone else

Pretty much and I haven't even finished the season lol

[reece(:]

1. Michaela
2-20. Everyone else

No lies were told on that day

[Jack_]

After Episode 3:

1. Adam
2. Ken
3. Hannah
4. Chris
5. Michaela
6. CeCe
7. Lucy
8. Zeke
9. Will
10. Bret
11. Jay
12. Jessica
13. Michelle
14. Sunday
15. Taylor
16. Paul
17. David
18. Figgy gross lol

David is disgracefully low

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm still amazed at someone caring about Rachel and Mari. But then again, azn girls, so.

[rk3388]

I'm still amazed at someone caring about Rachel and Mari. But then again, azn girls, so.

Your signature includes Lisa from BB10

[MB.]

Yeah that famous Asian woman Lisa Wallace

[Macie Lightfoot]

yes, -!: she's only in my signature because she's Asian...x

[jennyjuniper]

It almost makes up for the overt and slightly offensive whiteness of the male cast. Almost.

(also, by 'official cast reveal', yes, I mean a picture of everyone in their pants + a soundbite along the lines of "omg I love Parvati!")

Why is it offensive to be white?:shrug:

[Raph]

great top 3 Raph, those are my top 3 in that order.

Thanks! :love: We haven't even spoken about the season and of course we have the same top three, and if you ask me I see no asian girls in my top three? :hehe: Also just finished episode 4, sad to see Lucy go :(

[Raph]

Adam's love for the game makes me so happy to watch this season! :blush2:

[Macie Lightfoot]

and if you ask me I see no asian girls in my top three? :hehe: Also just finished episode 4, sad to see Lucy go :(

3. Mari

you were saying?

[Pete.]

Your signature includes Lisa from BB10
Bye

[Firewire]

you were saying?

:laugh2:

[Firewire]

Your signature includes Lisa from BB10

Also screamed at this

[LukeB]

Thanks! :love: We haven't even spoken about the season and of course we have the same top three, and if you ask me I see no asian girls in my top three? :hehe: Also just finished episode 4, sad to see Lucy go :(

Good similar taste :clap1:

nope no asians in your top 3 or your sig :think: just a troll with no life trying to start an argument.

[caprimint]

Adam's love for the game makes me so happy to watch this season! :blush2:
This season is gonna be like heaven for you

[MB.]

Why is it offensive to be white?:shrug:

...because they're all white and 10/10 isn't all that great a record for the show's diversity quota? (other than Jay, which I didn't know when I made that post four months ago, nice spot)

Anyway, I look forward to hearing your insightful thoughts on the season and Adam's win in April xo

[Headie]

https://68.media.tumblr.com/009ea7175e71dd6a81e9e1b1adaab32b/tumblr_oi78609DnV1tattd2o1_540.jpg

Iconic F5

[Jack_]

I assume this is a wind up or something idk, but

809888533343137792

[reece(:]

https://68.media.tumblr.com/009ea7175e71dd6a81e9e1b1adaab32b/tumblr_oi78609DnV1tattd2o1_540.jpg

Iconic F5

I love the Black Widow Alliance 2.0