I very much doubt Andrew is a racist

[Jack_]

Don't feel you have to explain yourself to me.:joker:

With regard to the underlined bit, I can actually believe you have a collage of my posts. Didn't Robin Williams do that with them pictures in One Hour Photo.

Aw, you really think I care that much about you? How cute

I know the internet isn't really your thing but I'll explain it in layman's terms. I searched the forum for threads about Danny, found one in particular, and quoted a few posts that were in it. The whole thing took a couple of minutes. Amazing right?! I'll have to show you one day!

[Heaven = Winner]

Lets celebrate different opinions.

I'd rather celebrate the diversity of people on this planet, whether that applies to different genders, different ages, different sexualities, different races, etc.

It's just a shame that bigots like Andrew don't feel the same way :shrug:

[Mystic Mock]

Why is this still going on

Because it's amusing maybe?

I don't know but It's keeping me awake.:fist::joker:

[Ant.]

I'd rather celebrate the diversity of people on this planet, whether that applies to different genders, different ages, different sexualities, different races, etc.

It's just a shame that bigots like Andrew don't feel the same way :shrug:

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

oops

[MB.]

I have been asking that myself. All I did was post a pic of Andrew's dad and all hell broke loose.

Except it would be easier for you mathematically, as one person, to give this up than the half dozen people you're arguing with :shrug:

[Ant.]

Because it's amusing maybe?

I don't know but It's keeping me awake.:fist::joker:

same I've got an english exam at 9:00

[Jack_]

his logic, dare I say he is a hypocrite? Much alike our friend Andrew? :omgno:

A typical day for ThriceShy on TiBB

1) Create contrarian thread
2) Get presented with facts by other members that can't be refuted
3) As a get-out-clause, scream 'can we keep this about the housemates and not forum members' like a broken record
4) In the next post, call members of said forum 'ignorant' and 'bigots'
5) Repeat step 3 when called out for step 4
6) Repeat 1 through 5 ad nauseam all series long

[ThriceShy]

Aw, you really think I care that much about you? How cute

I know the internet isn't really your thing but I'll explain it in layman's terms. I searched the forum for threads about Danny, found one in particular, and quoted a few posts that were in it. The whole thing took a couple of minutes. Amazing right?! I'll have to show you one day!

No need to show me. I will never feel the need to search your posts. That is the fundamental difference betwixt you and I.

I couldn't give a twopenny toss what you think of me. Annoying isn't it.

Now explain a bit more please. Thanks.:joker:

[Ant.]

Except it would be easier for you mathematically, as one person, to give this up than the half dozen people you're arguing with :shrug:

:hehe::hehe:

[MrWong]

Don't feel you have to explain yourself to me.:joker:

With regard to the underlined bit, I can actually believe you have a collage of my posts. Didn't Robin Williams do that with them pictures in One Hour Photo.

:joker: omg this thread

[Mystic Mock]

same I've got an english exam at 9:00

Good luck with the exam.:)

[Ant.]

A typical day for ThriceShy on TiBB

1) Create contrarian thread
2) Get presented with facts by other members that can't be refuted
3) As a get-out-clause, scream 'can we keep this about the housemates and not forum members' like a broken record
4) In the next post, call members of said forum 'ignorant' and 'bigots'
5) Repeat step 3 when called out for step 4
6) Repeat 1 through 5 ad nauseam all series long

:joker::joker::joker:

the teas been spilt

where is the lie?

[Mystic Mock]

I'd rather celebrate the diversity of people on this planet, whether that applies to different genders, different ages, different sexualities, different races, etc.

It's just a shame that bigots like Andrew don't feel the same way :shrug:

Does that include people from the Midlands?:hee:

[Denver]

In be4 close

[ThriceShy]

Except it would be easier for you mathematically, as one person, to give this up than the half dozen people you're arguing with :shrug:

Why would I "give up" posting in a popular thread that I started, about an issue with a programme that I am interested in?:shrug:

Like I said, I waste time on forums but I draw the line at starting threads then abandoning them because someone has disagreed with me.

[Jack_]

No need to show me. I will never feel the need to search your posts. That is the fundamental difference betwixt you and I.

I couldn't give a twopenny toss what you think of me. Annoying isn't it.

Now explain a bit more please. Thanks.:joker:

If that's the case, then why is 'can we keep this about the housemates and not me' one of your favourite sentences?

If you don't care then why would you be bothered if I or anyone else talked about you?

[Ant.]

Good luck with the exam.:)

I was quoting one of those unreliable BB news twitters that said they couldn't stay up reporting the new news because they had an english exam at 9am, but thankyou :)

[Marsh.]

Why would I "give up" posting in a popular thread that I started, about an issue with a programme that I am interested in?:shrug:

Maybe start a new thread on what you actually want to discuss?

Which given the last few pages seems to be Frankie Boyle, Katie Hopkins and Jack. :hee:

[Marsh.]

I was quoting one of those unreliable BB news twitters that said they couldn't stay up reporting the new news because they had an english exam at 9am, but thankyou :)

:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

I was quoting one of those unreliable BB news twitters that said they couldn't stay up reporting the new news because they had an english exam at 9am, but thankyou :)

Oh.:laugh:

[Ant.]

Maybe start a new thread on what you actually want to discuss?

Which given the last few pages seems to be Frankie Boyle, Katie Hopkins and Jack. :hee:

Oops :joker:

[Jack_]

Maybe start a new thread on what you actually want to discuss?

Which given the last few pages seems to be Frankie Boyle, Katie Hopkins and Jack. :hee:

:laugh2:

I'm flattered!

[ThriceShy]

If that's the case, then why is 'can we keep this about the housemates and not me' one of your favourite sentences?

If you don't care then why would you be bothered if I or anyone else talked about you?

I'm just trying to keep the thread tidy.

A better question is why would you want to talk about me? Am I more interesting than the housemates?

It simply confirms I am right when you have to resort to trying to slate me. I say trying, because you never actually succeed.

My temptation is actually to put you on ignore because I know how much it would annoy you but at the moment I am enjoying the explaining too much. If you don't hear from me again then you know what has happened.

[Mystic Mock]

Maybe start a new thread on what you actually want to discuss?

Which given the last few pages seems to be Frankie Boyle, Katie Hopkins and Jack. :hee:

http://pictures.thisisbigbrother.com/userpics/10433/JACK_IN_DIARY_ROOM_-_fake_tan.jpg

[Ant.]

I'm just trying to keep the thread tidy.

A better question is why would you want to talk about me? Am I more interesting than the housemates?

It simply confirms I am right when you have to resort to trying to slate me. I say trying, because you never actually succeed.

My temptation is actually to put you on ignore because I know how much it would annoy you but at the moment I am enjoying the explaining too much. If you don't hear from me again then you know what has happened.

A typical day for ThriceShy on TiBB

1) Create contrarian thread
2) Get presented with facts by other members that can't be refuted
3) As a get-out-clause, scream 'can we keep this about the housemates and not forum members' like a broken record
4) In the next post, call members of said forum 'ignorant' and 'bigots'
5) Repeat step 3 when called out for step 4
6) Repeat 1 through 5 ad nauseam all series long

oop

[Mystic Mock]

I'm just trying to keep the thread tidy.

A better question is why would you want to talk about me? Am I more interesting than the housemates?

It simply confirms I am right when you have to resort to trying to slate me. I say trying, because you never actually succeed.

My temptation is actually to put you on ignore because I know how much it would annoy you but at the moment I am enjoying the explaining too much. If you don't hear from me again then you know what has happened.

You spoke to someone from Birmingham?

[Jack_]

I'm just trying to keep the thread tidy.

A better question is why would you want to talk about me? Am I more interesting than the housemates?

It simply confirms I am right when you have to resort to trying to slate me. I say trying, because you never actually succeed.

My temptation is actually to put you on ignore because I know how much it would annoy you but at the moment I am enjoying the explaining too much. If you don't hear from me again then you know what has happened.

If you're trying to keep the thread tidy, why do you call other members 'ignorant' and 'bigots' but then tell others to stick to discussing the housemates? Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

In actuality I never slate you first, I answer your questions, present you with facts and then you choose to ignore them and when you're pulled up for it, resort to telling me to 'stick to talking about the housemates'. This process usually goes on for pages and pages...so really it's you that's making your own threads untidy.

And I would love you to put me on ignore! Please do. It would probably be better for you too, because then you'd have a reason not to respond to my posts which disprove your arguments :hehe:

[Ant.]

You spoke to someone from Birmingham?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/14/1410684680620_wps_4_White_Dee_real_name_Deird.jpg

[Jack_]

oop

:joker:

[Ant.]

If you're trying to keep the thread tidy, why do you call other members 'ignorant' and 'bigots' but then tell others to stick to discussing the housemates? Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

In actuality I never slate you first, I answer your questions, present you with facts and then you choose to ignore them and when you're pulled up for it, resort to telling me to 'stick to talking about the housemates'. This process usually goes on for pages and pages...so really it's you that's making your own threads untidy.

And I would love you to put me on ignore! Please do. It would probably be better for you too, because then you'd have a reason not to respond to my posts which disprove your arguments :hehe:

yknow he's gonna pretend he didnt see this right :hehe: clocked ha

[MB.]

Why would I "give up" posting in a popular thread that I started, about an issue with a programme that I am interested in?:shrug:

Like I said, I waste time on forums but I draw the line at starting threads then abandoning them because someone has disagreed with me.

Mate this thread stopped being about Andrew nine pages ago

[Denver]

ThriceShy for ML2K16?

[ThriceShy]

If you're trying to keep the thread tidy, why do you call other members 'ignorant' and 'bigots' but then tell others to stick to discussing the housemates? Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

In actuality I never slate you first, I answer your questions, present you with facts and then you choose to ignore them and when you're pulled up for it, resort to telling me to 'stick to talking about the housemates'. This process usually goes on for pages and pages...so really it's you that's making your own threads untidy.

And I would love you to put me on ignore! Please do. It would probably be better for you too, because then you'd have a reason not to respond to my posts which disprove your arguments :hehe:

Begging to be put on ignore is not a good look.

I haven't called anyone here a bigot. People here suggested that Andrew, and in some cases myself, were bigots. I simply responded that Andrew's detractors were behaving more like bigots.

The revealing thing is that you have never objected at the bigot tag being bandied my way but you then get all uppity when I simply point out what a bigot really is.

[Heaven = Winner]

Does that include people from the Midlands?:hee:

http://i.giphy.com/l41m5DGp41aARKLIY.gif

[LukeB]

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[Mystic Mock]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/14/1410684680620_wps_4_White_Dee_real_name_Deird.jpg

Oh he wishes.

[Mystic Mock]

http://i.giphy.com/l41m5DGp41aARKLIY.gif

Be careful about those Black Country lot, they'll be asking "yam alrite yam ya?" And you'll be just as confused as I was when I first heard them say it.

And don't even get me started on how Brummies say toothbrush.:bawling::joker:

[Marsh.]

You spoke to someone from Birmingham?

Not LukeB getting involved.

[LukeB]

You spoke to someone from Birmingham?

Not LukeB getting involved.

http://pa1.narvii.com/5775/eaa2dd34a6a3ec740a47df178016562a1309d540_hq.gif

[Jack_]

Begging to be put on ignore is not a good look.

Nor is claiming you always win online debates and then losing every one you're ever involved in.

And neither is being a hypocrite.

I haven't called anyone here a bigot

Please don't make me post the definition of bigot again.

He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that. He is just a bit of a WUM on twitter.

You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters. That tag applies more to andrew's detractors than it does to andrew.

It just looks ignorant to keep using the wrong word.

Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

Sorry, you were saying?

The revealing thing is that you have never objected at the bigot tag being bandied my way but you then get all uppity when I simply point out what a bigot really is.

Actually that's not true either. I get all 'uppity' at you telling others not to discuss forum members and to stick to the housemates, all while you're calling said forum members 'bigots' and 'ignorant'. Much like the Danny issue, it's the hypocrisy I have a problem with :hehe:

[Mystic Mock]

Not LukeB getting involved.

Have you got Toughache Marsh?

[Marsh.]

Have you got Toughache Marsh?

:joker:

[Ant.]

Nor is claiming you always win online debates and then losing every one you're ever involved in.

And neither is being a hypocrite.









Sorry, you were saying?



Actually that's not true either. I get all 'uppity' at you telling others not to discuss forum members and to stick to the housemates, all while you're calling said forum members 'bigots' and 'ignorant'. Much like the Danny issue, it's the hypocrisy I have a problem with :hehe:

Clock'd
ThriceShy you lost 5 pages back but this solidifies the fact you've lost
buh bye

[Amy Jade]

That Andrew's a right prick isn't he

[MrWong]

Nor is claiming you always win online debates and then losing every one you're ever involved in.

And neither is being a hypocrite.









Sorry, you were saying?



Actually that's not true either. I get all 'uppity' at you telling others not to discuss forum members and to stick to the housemates, all while you're calling said forum members 'bigots' and 'ignorant'. Much like the Danny issue, it's the hypocrisy I have a problem with :hehe:


http://mlbfancave.mlb.com/assets/images/custom/082113_elvis_dragged_txdgosoj_1_349fsfx7.gif

[Mystic Mock]

That Andrew's a right prick isn't he

Is he the prick in the wall?

[Amy Jade]

Is he the prick in the wall?

A prick in general I believe.

[ThriceShy]

So jack admits he has a problem with me. We got there in the end. I will pop him on ignore for both our sakes.

He quotes me saying that it is ignorant to use the wrong word but completely ignores the fact that the person I was responding to had repeatedly called me "dense."

The hypocrisy is Jack's.

[Amy Jade]

So jack admits he has a problem with me. We got there in the end. I will pop him on ignore for both our sakes.

You mean so you can avoid getting dragged by him.

[Mystic Mock]

A prick in general I believe.

:joker:

Teacher! Leave those black kids alone.:hehe:

In poor taste, but the thread is about Andrew tbf.:joker:

[Jack_]

You mean so you can avoid getting dragged by him.

Pretty much

Oh well, all in a day's work everyone :hehe:

[Amy Jade]

Not Jack ignoring facts! Reminds me of someone that does http://r14.imgfast.net/users/1413/43/61/46/smiles/32777.gif

[Withano]

annihilated worse than Back To Black after Beyonce and Andre 3000 covered it

[ThriceShy]

I can see a serious meltdown coming on here when andrew wins.

[Marsh.]

I can see a serious meltdown coming on here when andrew wins.

Helen Wood already set a precedent for horrid bigots winning anyway?

[ThriceShy]

Helen Wood already set a precedent for horrid bigots winning anyway?

Helen was a bully not a bigot. People really do have a problem with that word:joker:

Andrew would be one of the greatest winners ever. I believe he can do it.

[Ant.]

so did thriceshy win this debate like he does with most debates or

[Marsh.]

Helen was a bully not a bigot.

It is possible to be both. :pat:

[Ant.]

Helen was a bully not a bigot. People really do have a problem with that word:joker:

Andrew would be one of the greatest winners ever. I believe he can do it.

uhm yknow bully and bigot arent mutually exclusive.. Helen can be a bully and a bigot...

u also believe he's not a bigot even though she is?

[ThriceShy]

It is possible to be both. :pat:

It is but she wasn't both. She was just an out and out aggressive nasty bully. Bigot has a precise definition that doesn't apply to her or andrew.

[Marsh.]

It is but she wasn't both. She was just an out and out aggressive nasty bully. Bigot has a precise definition that doesn't apply to her or andrew.

In what way does it not apply to Helen? :joker: She was completely intolerant of others.

[Ant.]

It is but she wasn't both. She was just an out and out aggressive nasty bully. Bigot has a precise definition that doesn't apply to her or andrew.

But it applies to us? :umm2:

[ThriceShy]

In what way does it not apply to Helen? :joker: She was completely intolerant of others.

Not really in terms of opinions though. She just has some sort of anti social personality disorder in my opinion. To call her a bigot is as pointless as calling Hitler an adulterer. It ain't his main drawback.

[Marsh.]

Not really in terms of opinions though. She just has some sort of anti social personality disorder in my opinion. To call her a bigot is as pointless as calling Hitler an adulterer. It ain't his main drawback.

Who said it was her "main" drawback? That's another discussion entirely.

The point was we already have a precedent for a bigot winning therefore if Andrew won it wouldn't make him not a bigot.

Very simple.

[MB.]

Go to bed the lot of you

[Marsh.]

Go to bed the lot of you

FIVE more minutes. :(

[ThriceShy]

Who said it was her "main" drawback? That's another discussion entirely.

The point was we already have a precedent for a bigot winning therefore if Andrew won it wouldn't make him not a bigot.

Very simple.

But I don't think she was a bigot.

But you do have a point, if somebody like Helen can win then I don't see why andrew can't. Although it won't be as easy for him to get the chav vote,

[Marsh.]

But ThriceShy wins that one for mentioning Hitler. It only took 13 pages. :clap1:

[wendywillow]

4th day and we already have a 13 page "racism" thread.

[Marsh.]

But I don't think she was a bigot.

You also don't think racist remarks are racist so we've come full circle. :smug:

[ThriceShy]

But ThriceShy wins that one for mentioning Hitler. It only took 13 pages. :clap1:

You mentioned Helen first. I only had so far I could go to top that.:joker:

Comparing Helen and Andrew is ridiculous. He is a saint in comparison.

[Marsh.]

4th day and we already have a 13 page "racism" thread.

Me dad's black so don't even come for me lady.

[MB.]

Me dad's black so don't even come for me lady.

Can he play Ludo though? :think:

[ThriceShy]

4th day and we already have a 13 page "racism" thread.

To be fair, about 9 of those pages were devoted to Jack showing off his thriceshy scrapbook.

[caprimint]

But I don't think she was a bigot.

But you do have a point, if somebody like Helen can win then I don't see why andrew can't. Although it won't be as easy for him to get the chav vote,
Helen had an easier ride because she got the automatic final pass.

[Marsh.]

You mentioned Helen first. I only had so far I could go to top that.:joker:

Comparing Helen and Andrew is ridiculous. He is a saint in comparison.

Yes, I was ridiculous for comparing the possibility of Andrew (a Big Brother contestant) winning the show to a former Big Brother contestant who won the show.

Hitler was a much more understandable comparison. :clap1:

[ThriceShy]

Helen had an easier ride because she got the automatic final pass.

Yep and she had lots of later manipulation too.

Helen had nothing likeable about her at all. Andrew is extremely charismatic and intelligent.

[MB.]

Then again, Andrew did invade Poland

[Marsh.]

Can he play Ludo though? :think:

He plays better than your lot. :fist:

[Marsh.]

Yep and she had lots of later manipulation too.

Helen had nothing likeable about her at all. Andrew is extremely charismatic and intelligent.

So intelligent he's still wondering when the first Head of Household is elected.

[Withano]

Helen was a bully not a bigot. People really do have a problem with that word:joker:

Andrew would be one of the greatest winners ever. I believe he can do it.

What are you basing that on. Hes had so close to zero airtime.

[ThriceShy]

So intelligent he's still wondering when the first Head of Household is elected.

You don't know the difference between unintelligent and ignorant.

He is mensa level intelligent and his dad was an IM. No doubt he is also a very strong chess player. And a kickboxing world champion too.

I wonder if people are jealous of him.

[ThriceShy]

What are you basing that on. Hes had so close to zero airtime.

Sorry, I feel too annihilated to address this.

[Withano]

Sorry, I feel too annihilated to address this.

Oh good. Not completely deluded, just mostly.

[Marsh.]

You don't know the difference between unintelligent and ignorant.

I know the difference just fine.

One would expect low intelligence from someone who enters a game hellbent on playing hardball without first researching how said game actually works.

[Marsh.]

So...

Andrew is not racist as his dad is black.

Andrew is intelligent as his dad was an IM.

Anything else?

[Jack_]

Hopefully today has taught all of us who didn't already know it that ThriceShy isn't to be taken seriously

In future can we agree to try not to rise to the bait? :hehe:

[ThriceShy]

I know the difference just fine.

One would expect low intelligence from someone who enters a game hellbent on playing hardball without first researching how said game actually works.

Why would he believe the game works different over here?

Grasping or what.

[ThriceShy]

So...

Andrew is not racist as his dad is black.

Andrew is intelligent as his dad was an IM.

Anything else?

Don't forget the mensa thing.

[Marsh.]

Why would he believe the game works different over here?

:joker: :joker: :joker:

The public vote is a big indicator for a start.

[Marsh.]

Don't forget the mensa thing.

The evidence of which is.... his word. Ok.

But maybe he was joking and having a bit of banter?

[ThriceShy]

The evidence of which is.... his word. Ok.

But maybe he was joking and having a bit of banter?

Wow you really have a problem with him don't you.

You will be collating stuff about him next.:joker:

[Marsh.]

Wow you really have a problem with him don't you.

You will be collating stuff about him next.:joker:

No. I'm a member of a Big Brother forum, so I'm discussing a Big Brother contestant?

Is there a reason you keep trying to make the conversation about ME?
I am a forum member, it's against the rules. :hee:

[ThriceShy]

:joker: :joker: :joker:

The public vote is a big indicator for a start.

How would he know it had a public vote? I'm guessing he assumed it works the same as US BB. A reasonable assumption really as it is the same show, licensed by the same company.

[LukeB]

No. I'm a member of a Big Brother forum, so I'm discussing a Big Brother contestant?

Is there a reason you keep trying to make the conversation about ME?
I am a forum member, it's against the rules. :hee:

you have a fan club?

[Marsh.]

How would he know it had a public vote? I'm guessing he assumed it works the same as US BB. A reasonable assumption really as it is the same show, licensed by the same company.

Not really when he's spent a lot of time visiting England over a period of time and would no doubt have spend a considerable amount of time negotiating to join this year's cast?

But then, he was clearly given instructions by Emma which he forgot about 2 minutes later so it's not surprising really.

[ThriceShy]

Not really when he's spent a lot of time visiting England over a period of time and would no doubt have spend a considerable amount of time negotiating to join this year's cast?

But then, he was clearly given instructions by Emma which he forgot about 2 minutes later so it's not surprising really.

Why would visiting england mean he knows BB has a public vote?:conf:

[Marsh.]

Why would visiting england mean he knows BB has a public vote?:conf:

Since he's clearly interested in the franchise/show? He's tried multiple times to get on both this and the US show. One would assume he would be familiar with them?

Surely one isn't so unintelligent they "assume" things about a show without actually watching/checking their facts?

[ThriceShy]

Since he's clearly interested in the franchise/show? He's tried multiple times to get on both this and the US show. One would assume he would be familiar with them?

And not knowing makes him unintelligent? :shrug:

You might want to give these posts a second read before submitting them.

[Marsh.]

Surely one isn't so unintelligent they "assume" things about a show without actually watching/checking their facts?

And not knowing makes him unintelligent? :shrug:


No intelligent person assumes to know something they haven't seen or educated themselves about.

[ThriceShy]

No intelligent person assumes to know something they haven't seen or educated themselves about.

But he has seen BB in the US. Why would he have any cause to think that the exact same franchise in the UK would be different?

[Marsh.]

But he has seen BB in the US. Why would he have any cause to think that the exact same franchise in the UK would be different?

Because virtually nothing is adapted the same when moved to different countries?

Any intelligent person wouldn't assume they would be.

[Marsh.]

Then again, maybe he does know how BBUK works. He's pretending not to for the banter probably.

[Tom4784]

Oh right so white people can say the one ending in "a". Glad that was clarified.

Why would you want to say it? :suspect:

[Tom4784]

Oh god, I just got to the posts about Chinese takeaways.

https://41.media.tumblr.com/823322af84835d9d3655c397281b65f9/tumblr_inline_o0dyra1LQ01qgtja2_540.png

All this reaching and jumping through hoops to try to paint Andrew as not being racist when he has used racist language and has AGREED with racists. A spade is often just a spade, trying to desperately subvert the truth to suit your own narrative is just sad. Accept reality for what it is and move on.

[Ammi]

...I'm quite intrigued by Andrew and hope that his time in there reveals his true character..(whatever that is..)...he's apparently made homophobic tweets but has a brother who's homosexual..?..(I think..)...and racist tweets, but his dad was Afro American...he does seem like an intelligent guy in the way he's 'targeting' tactically and with good thought to gameplay etc...so it's hard to relate the tweets with what we're seeing atm in the house...maybe they weren't his genuine thoughts but more 'attention' things at the time he made them because with all of his successes etc, they don't seem to indicate a very confident person to me...

[hot2go]

Helen Wood already set a precedent for horrid bigots winning anyway?

Helen Wood was uneducated and unsophisticated so was not able to express herself without emotion and was not able to convey what she meant in anything resembling an acceptable way ....Andrew is intelligent and articulate and measured....there really is no comparison .....and Helen didn't win, she was fast tracked to the final by default ...if Andrew wins it will solely be because the public admire and respect him....not because he shagged someone like Marco does or because he couldn't hold his sh-t together like Natalie....if he wins it be out of respect for actually being someone smart enough to play the game for once

[MrWong]

You don't know the difference between unintelligent and ignorant.

He is mensa level intelligent and his dad was an IM. No doubt he is also a very strong chess player. And a kickboxing world champion too.

I wonder if people are jealous of him.

He already admitted that he's not an official Mensa member.

He probably did one of those unofficial (definitely not a) mensa tests online.

[ThriceShy]

He already admitted that he's not an official Mensa member.

He probably did one of those unofficial (definitely not a) mensa tests online.

Yes, we get you don't like him.

[Denver]

If he was that intelligent then he wouldn't have blown his cover within minutes of entering the house :hee:

[ThriceShy]

AGREED with racists.

GASP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BBDodge]

If he was that intelligent then he wouldn't have blown his cover within minutes of entering the house :hee:

Bit difficult for him to carry on playing smart when Ryan the gob****e was making it all so obvious.

[MrWong]

Yes, we get you don't like him.


Perched for his downfall :elephant:

[ThriceShy]

Perched for his downfall :elephant:

Appropriate for someone parroting the same view over and over again.

There will be no downfall. He will be crowned the winner and go back to his incredibly successful life.

[MrWong]

Appropriate for someone parroting the same view over and over again.

There will be no downfall. He will be crowned the winner and go back to his incredibly successful life.

In a VTE? Ok :D

[ThriceShy]

In a VTE? Ok :D

You are assuming he will be up.

Even if he is, all the bimbos in there will be voted out over him. The voters are girls. The people who know/care about his tweets are just a few people on forums. The public don't even know about it.

[hot2go]

Really strange how so many Ryan fans hate Andrew because they think he is a black guy who hates black people yet they don't hate Ryan who is a gay guy who hates gay people....it's the same hypocrisy as last years Chloe fans who think Andrew should be thrown out for his tweets yet supported that little scrubber who has a criminal record....HYPOCRITES

[MrWong]

You are assuming he will be up.

Even if he is, all the bimbos in there will be voted out over him. The voters are girls. The people who know/care about his tweets are just a few people on forums. The public don't even know about it.

Ignoring the tweets and based on the footage that we have seen he seems like a pompous, arrogant twat.

Anyway, it's early days. Plenty of time for him to show more arrogant, twattish behaviour. Hm's like that never win. (unless they get a pass to the final and a road to redemption edit) Which isn't likely considering his bigoted comments on SM.

[MrWong]

Really strange how so many Ryan fans hate Andrew because they think he is a black guy who hates black people yet they don't hate Ryan who is a gay guy who hates gay people....it's the same hypocrisy as last years Chloe fans who think Andrew should be thrown out for his tweets yet supported that little scrubber who has a criminal record....HYPOCRITES

Can you be more specific instead that vague bull**** that adds nothing to the discussion.

Ryan's awful and so was Chloe. No hypocrisy here.

[Mystic Mock]

Helen was a bully not a bigot. People really do have a problem with that word:joker:

Andrew would be one of the greatest winners ever. I believe he can do it.

Tbf as a Helen fan she did have an issue with Irish people.

[jet]

Bit difficult for him to carry on playing smart when Ryan the gob****e was making it all so obvious.

But his insistence on picking Alex and Jackson for eviction was very stupid. It just screamed 'unreal' and as his first game play move it was a dumb one. :facepalm: He didn't guess the twist of them coming into the 'other house' either - Ryan did. It also showed he wasn't up for the challenge of going up against popular HM's. Surely someone with such self proclaimed intelligence and superior game playing skills would relish the thought of beating the best? I haven't seen any great brain power in him yet at all. :think:

[ThriceShy]

Tbf as a Helen fan she did have an issue with Irish people.

And again, that isn't what bigoted means.

[hot2go]

Can you be more specific instead that vague bull**** that adds nothing to the discussion.

Ryan's awful and so was Chloe. No hypocrisy here.

Still personally offensive i see.... do the monitors look away when you start spewing poison to other posters ? How do repeatedly get away with it ?

What I said was very specific but I will repeat it again being as you say you are struggling to keep up

.... Andrew is a guy with a black background who ( allegedly ) hates black people
.....Ryan is a guy with a gay background who said he hates gay people

Ryan fans want Andrew thrown out but love Ryan...

Sorry these parallels and the hypocrisy of Ryan fans was hard for you to understand


Chloe bad girl...Andrew bad boy....same rules apply

Sorry these parallels and the hypocrisy of Chloe fans was also hard for you to understand

Is it specific enough for you to understand now or do you want it in French ?

[MrWong]

Still personally offensive i see.... do the monitors look away when you start spewing poison to other posters ? How do repeatedly get away with it ?

What I said was very specific but I will repeat it again being as you say you are struggling to keep up

.... Andrew is a guy with a black background who ( allegedly ) hates black people
.....Ryan is a guy with a gay background who said he hates gay people

Ryan fans want Andrew thrown out but love Ryan...

Sorry these parallels and the hypocrisy of Ryan fans was hard for you to understand


Chloe bad girl...Andrew bad boy....same rules apply

Sorry these parallels and the hypocrisy of Chloe fans was also hard for you to understand

Is it specific enough for you to understand now or do you want it in French ?

Enough whining please. You throw out insults such as 'stupid' constantly. What I said wasn't even a rule break.

My point was....Why aren't you quoting the fans that are doing it then? Throwing out indirects without being specific and challenging the hypocrites adds nothing.

[Marsh.]

Helen Wood was uneducated and unsophisticated so was not able to express herself without emotion and was not able to convey what she meant in anything resembling an acceptable way ....Andrew is intelligent and articulate and measured....there really is no comparison .....and Helen didn't win, she was fast tracked to the final by default ...if Andrew wins it will solely be because the public admire and respect him....not because he shagged someone like Marco does or because he couldn't hold his sh-t together like Natalie....if he wins it be out of respect for actually being someone smart enough to play the game for once

If you wanted to go off topic all you had to do was create a new thread my love.

[Tom4784]

Really strange how so many Ryan fans hate Andrew because they think he is a black guy who hates black people yet they don't hate Ryan who is a gay guy who hates gay people....it's the same hypocrisy as last years Chloe fans who think Andrew should be thrown out for his tweets yet supported that little scrubber who has a criminal record....HYPOCRITES

The whole Chloe thing is such a reaching comparison that ultimately doesn't make sense.

A lot of housemates have criminal records, it only matters if the crime is something that the viewing public would find offensive like abuse or rape. A completed sentence for something that's ultimately minor is not a problem but an ongoing racist and homophobic attitude is. I do like how you keep focusing on the black comments when you know he also commented on other races too, it blows up your entire argument so I'm guessing you think that if you pretend those tweets didn't happen that they'll just go away.

Nobody ****ing likes Ryan and once again that whole argument is just desperate and reaching.

Andrew has used racist language, he has agreed with racist viewpoints aimed at other races that are not his own. He has been openly homophobic online.

Stop denying the ****ing truth and just accept it, jfc. You can't explain away his own words.

[hot2go]

Enough whining please. You throw out insults such as 'stupid' constantly. What I said wasn't even a rule break.

My point was....Why aren't you quoting the fans that are doing it then? Throwing out indirects without being specific and challenging the hypocrites adds nothing.

I'm not whining I'm defending myself against your use of bad language that you directed at me, a poster, not a housemate....bullsh-t is bad language that this site says is not acceptable when used towards another poster...

The hypocrisy of the support of Ryans homophobia and Chloe's criminal behaviour against the disapproval of Andrews alleged racism was a very valid and fair comparison....just because you dislike them both doesn't mean there isn't hypocrisy on the parts of others and doesn't give you the right to arrogantly say that my contribution to the threads is worthless.....the message wasn't sent to you but you chose to make it all about you...you approached me with your insults, I didnt approach you...I have every right to defend myself from that behaviour....and every right to observe obvious flaws in people's justification for attacking Andrew...

[hot2go]

The whole Chloe thing is such a reaching comparison that ultimately doesn't make sense.

A lot of housemates have criminal records, it only matters if the crime is something that the viewing public would find offensive like abuse or rape. A completed sentence for something that's ultimately minor is not a problem but an ongoing racist and homophobic attitude is. I do like how you keep focusing on the black comments when you know he also commented on other races too, it blows up your entire argument so I'm guessing you think that if you pretend those tweets didn't happen that they'll just go away.

Nobody ****ing likes Ryan and once again that whole argument is just desperate and reaching.

Andrew has used racist language, he has agreed with racist viewpoints aimed at other races that are not his own. He has been openly homophobic online.

Stop denying the ****ing truth and just accept it, jfc. You can't explain away his own words.

Chloe's was not a minor offence, it involved a real life innocent victim ...and some of the viewing public found what she did very offensive.....me for one....Andrew has not been proved to be criminal or been given chance to defend that....Chloe was proven and she attempted to defend herself by accusing an innocent man, she had robbed, of assaulting her...if she could be allowed to stay then so too should Andrew....I see no difference...to have supported her and now expect him to be thrown out is hypocritical.....

Comparing Ryans homophobia against Andrews alleged racism isn't desperate and far reaching just because you say no one likes him...that is incorrect, many people like him, that's why he got voted by the public to enter the main house.

Andrew has as much right to be in the house as the others do.

[MrWong]

I'm not whining I'm defending myself against your use of bad language that you directed at me, a poster, not a housemate....bullsh-t is bad language that this site says is not acceptable when used towards another poster...

The hypocrisy of the support of Ryans homophobia and Chloe's criminal behaviour against the disapproval of Andrews alleged racism was a very valid and fair comparison....just because you dislike them both doesn't mean there isn't hypocrisy on the parts of others and doesn't give you the right to arrogantly say that my contribution to the threads is worthless.....the message wasn't sent to you but you chose to make it all about you...you approached me with your insults, I didnt approach you...I have every right to defend myself from that behaviour....and every right to observe obvious flaws in people's justification for attacking Andrew...

Your faux outrage at swear words isn't convincing in the slightest.

You've also missed my point again.

[hot2go]

Your faux outrage at swear words isn't convincing in the slightest.

You've also missed my point again.

I wonder why ? ...maybe better that you don't send any more points my way and I won't send any yours...if you recall, I never did in the first place...feel free to come back with the last word, these are mine to you.

[Josy]

Ok, the thread had ran it's course from when it turned into grammar wars a few pages in.

If I see anymore personal comments, insults or pack mentality from any members involved in this thread anywhere else then it's a straight ban.