I very much doubt Andrew is a racist

[ThriceShy]

This is a pic of his dad:

https://images.chesscomfiles.com/uploads/images_users/tiny_mce/MikeKlein/phpgfKRST.jpeg

Andrew is part black.

[Amy Jade]

Yet he uses racial slurs. :shrug:

[MrWong]

Yet he uses racial slurs. :shrug:

Self hatred?

[Amy Jade]

Self hatred?

That's a good point. I'd hate myself too if I was as tragic and desperate as he is.

[Samm]

He can still be racist looool

[Headie]

https://media.giphy.com/media/2UqtrCLuOMEw0/giphy.gif

[ThriceShy]

Yet he uses racial slurs. :shrug:

Yes. I hear black people using the N word all the time.

[ThriceShy]

Self hatred?

Are you saying that all the black rappers that sing the N word are hating themselves?:shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Im not a racist, some of my best parents are black"

[Tom4784]

He's every other kind of -ist and -ic going and he's used racial slurs in the past.

It's a foregone conclusion at this point.

[Crimson Dynamo]

his view of women is frankly repulsive

[Tom4784]

Are you saying that all the black rappers that sing the N word are hating themselves?:shrug:

Don't be dense.

Different context, different meaning.

[Shaun]

Perhaps not but his choice of language is stupid and invites doubt.

[Lostie!]

Cool, now you just need to find evidence of a gay relative and a relative with "down symdrome" to absolve him of the rest of the awful things he's said.

(Not that it would, because of course it bloody wouldn't)

[MrWong]

Are you saying that all the black rappers that sing the N word are hating themselves?:shrug:

No. You brought rappers and the N word in to the conversation not me.

Do these rappers say stuff like "The racist woman was right"? like Andrew did?

[billy123]

You are making the mistake of thinking anybody other than a couple of dozen BB addicted forum posting obsessives give a dogs dick about it or him.
Really who cares about some chode on a little watched backwater reality show.

[caprimint]

People judging before they know anything about him. Sounds much like the internet.

[Crimson Dynamo]

People judging before they know anything about him. Sounds much like the internet.

that is incorrect he has made a great habit of posting many thoughts and pictures on social media over the last 5 years and it allows you to build up a picture of who he is.

and so far he is a twat

so lets see if he can live up to his advertising?

[ThriceShy]

Don't be dense.

Different context, different meaning.

But it shows that black people can use racist language without being racist.

Do you really believe that Andrew is racist, given that his dad is clearly black and he is part black?

[caprimint]

that is incorrect he has made a great habit of posting many thoughts and pictures on social media over the last 5 years and it allows you to build up a picture of who he is.

and so far he is a twat

so lets see if he can live up to his advertising?
We still don't know a whole lot about his upbringing (so I've heard it wasn't the best) and anything about his life. We've seen some words on a screen and as far as I'm concerned that's as far as it goes. I have little interest at looking into detail regarding his past however, because it has zero relevance to his housemate status.

[Headie]

But it shows that black people can use racist language without being racist.

Do you really believe that Andrew is racist, given that his dad is clearly black and he is part black?

Is his best friend black too?

[Crimson Dynamo]

We still don't know a whole lot about his upbringing (so I've heard it wasn't the best) and anything about his life. We've seen some words on a screen and as far as I'm concerned that's as far as it goes. I have little interest at looking into detail regarding his past however, because it has zero relevance to his housemate status.

you know you can do both

judge him as a housemate and judge his extensive social media profile prior


Its not against the law

[Niamh.]

where did you get that picture?

[Livia]

People judging before they know anything about him. Sounds much like the internet.

He's in Big Brother. This is an Internet forum about Big Brother. He put himself up for discussion while being aware of the bigoted posts he'd made in the past so forgive us all if we're here doing what this place is designed for.

[crazycolaist]

Are you saying that all the black rappers that sing the N word are hating themselves?:shrug:

You can tell the difference between hate speech and peoples bars in rap tunes, dont play devils advocate here mate will do you 0 favours

[caprimint]

you know you can do both

judge him as a housemate and judge his extensive social media profile prior


Its not against the law
I didn't say it was, I personally just don't deem it relevant when we're watching a show like this. If you dug up everyone's backgrounds you'd probably find a whole lot more information, but then you'd be against supporting anybody. Somebody could be absolutely lovely on social media, it doesn't mean they're a nice person but in the house they could be a riot.

He's in Big Brother. This is an Internet forum about Big Brother. He put himself up for discussion while being aware of the bigoted posts he'd made in the past so forgive us all if we're here doing what this place is designed for.
Of course it's going to happen. It's just a shame that it does before they're given a real chance to prove their worth.

[hot2go]

This is a pic of his dad:

https://images.chesscomfiles.com/uploads/images_users/tiny_mce/MikeKlein/phpgfKRST.jpeg

Andrew is part black.

Oh that is hilarious .....I don't know what's true about the guy but I do know pics from sum Twitter page aren't concrete evidence ....if it turns out those tweets are fake then a lot of people on here should feel very guilty indeed

[hot2go]

You are making the mistake of thinking anybody other than a couple of dozen BB addicted forum posting obsessives give a dogs dick about it or him.
Really who cares about some chode on a little watched backwater reality show.

Well you clearly do cause you're hear and your talking about it :joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Northern Monkey]

Well according to a small minority of people 'black people can't be racist'(unless it suits their agenda of course).Anyway after watching his vid on Muslim terrorists he does'nt seem racist towards them.Maybe he is racist towards black people or maybe he has changed since 2012 or maybe he did'nt mean his tweets and it was just his humour or maybe......
Loads of maybes but nobody actually knows.

[hot2go]

Well according to a small minority of people 'black people can't be racist'(unless it suits their agenda of course).Anyway after watching his vid on Muslim terrorists he does'nt seem racist towards them.Maybe he is racist towards black people or maybe he has changed since 2012 or maybe he did'nt mean his tweets and it was just his humour or maybe......
Loads of maybes but nobody actually knows.

:clap1::clap1:

[hot2go]

Personally I think he's not like anyone else in there and will be a massive challenge to all of them and I wanna watch that....he ain't gonna be riding round on some bed or taking permanent residence in front of the bedroom mirrors....he's gonna blow the f-ckin roof off ....you want nice guys then go watch the Care Bears

[Tom4784]

But it shows that black people can use racist language without being racist.

Do you really believe that Andrew is racist, given that his dad is clearly black and he is part black?


Again, you're being dense and you know it.

You know perfectly well that the N-Word's origin and you know full well that there's a variant of it that has been reclaimed by some black people to mean something less offensive to them.

Being part black doesn't excuse him from being racist and it's fair to think that he is a racist given how he has used racial slurs towards other people and is generally bigoted.

[Tom4784]

Well according to a small minority of people 'black people can't be racist'(unless it suits their agenda of course).Anyway after watching his vid on Muslim terrorists he does'nt seem racist towards them.Maybe he is racist towards black people or maybe he has changed since 2012 or maybe he did'nt mean his tweets and it was just his humour or maybe......
Loads of maybes but nobody actually knows.

That's bull**** and you know it. No one has ever said that black people can't be racist, it's just a misquote used by closet racists in an attempt to justify their ****ty views.

[ThriceShy]

where did you get that picture?

I dressed entirely in black and cat burgled his house in the middle of the night and stole that picture from a drawer in his study. Then scanned it in to my PC.

Or perhaps I just googled his famous chess player dad.

[ThriceShy]

Again, you're being dense and you know it.

You know perfectly well that the N-Word's origin and you know full well that there's a variant of it that has been reclaimed by some black people to mean something less offensive to them.

Being part black doesn't excuse him from being racist and it's fair to think that he is a racist given how he has used racial slurs towards other people and is generally bigoted.

Please don't make me post the definition of bigot again.

He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that. He is just a bit of a WUM on twitter.

[Amy Jade]

He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that.
If he's not a bigot what's that video about where he calls people idiots for expressing their opinion about the Smith's?

Yes you can be racist towards your own race.

[Niamh.]

I dressed entirely in black and cat burgled his house in the middle of the night and stole that picture from a drawer in his study. Then scanned it in to my PC.

Or perhaps I just googled his famous chess player dad.

There's no need to be rude, Jez :/

[ThriceShy]

There's no need to be rude, Jez :/

It just seemed an odd question. Given that the source of the pic is in the URL when you click it.

[Niamh.]

It just seemed an odd question. Given that the source of the pic is in the URL when you click it.

I didn't know he was a famous chess player

[ThriceShy]

I didn't know he was a famous chess player

So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

[Tom4784]

Please don't make me post the definition of bigot again.

He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that. He is just a bit of a WUM on twitter.

You need to read those tweets again.

Ah, the ol' 'I'm not a bigot! YOU'RE THE BIGOT FOR NOT AGREEING WITH ME' line. You're the one that needs to read the definition of bigot because disagreeing with someone doens't make you a bigot and no one has said anything about wanting to suppress his right to his opinion.

That's the annoying thing about bigots, they get really upset when people disagree with their views, they act like they are under attack, that they're the only people with a right to an opinion, that their word is law. Everyone has a right to an opinion. Andrew can say whatever bull**** comes to mind and anyone can call his view bigoted because that's THEIR opinion and their entitled to it as much as he is. It's a two way street, not just a get out of jail free card to justify a person's terrible opinions.

He's shown time and time again that he is both a bigoted and awful human being. Accept it or not, it doesn't change what he is.

[Tom4784]

So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

The racist and homophobic tweets are usually enough to tip most people off that he's a bigot.

[ThriceShy]

The racist and homophobic tweets are usually enough to tip most people off that he's a bigot.

You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters. That tag applies more to andrew's detractors than it does to andrew.

It just looks ignorant to keep using the wrong word.

[Ashley.]

You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters.

You're completely correct. And what better person to fit the definition than the man himself.

[ThriceShy]

You're completely correct. And what better person to fit the definition than the man himself.

Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

[hot2go]

So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

I don't think the person who asked you about Andrews dad being a chess player has called Andrew a def racist ...

[Tom4784]

You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters. That tag applies more to andrew's detractors than it does to andrew.

It just looks ignorant to keep using the wrong word.

You aren't someone that should be calling other people ignorant given how deep your head is buried in the sand over Andrew's comments.

[Ashley.]

Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

Well, if we look over the evidence we've been given, he clearly doesn't think much of the opinions and views of different races, different sexualities and different genders. You say a bigot is someone who is intolerant of those holding different opinions, so you're merely just confirming the fact that Andrew is one. You ought to work on your defence, really.

[ThriceShy]

You aren't someone that should be calling other people ignorant given how deep your head is buried in the sand over Andrew's comments.

I simply haven't taken his comments in isolation. The briefest bit of investigoogling reveals him to be black. Believing a black man can be racist against blacks is as dense as it gets, in my opinion.

At worst, he is just a twitter troll in the katie hopkins or frankie boyle mode.

The desire to make it something else is simply fans of other housemates trying to scuttle him.

[Jack_]

Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

Weren't you the one last year campaigning for Danny to be ejected/evicted because of a few tweets he'd made in the past, even going so far as to create a ****ing website called 'getdannyout.com'? :umm2:

[hot2go]

If he's not a bigot what's that video about where he calls people idiots for expressing their opinion about the Smith's?

Yes you can be racist towards your own race.

It's about a very real truth....about idiots who admire rich people with quilted lifestyles just because they've been conditioned to by the rich people's publicity machine...same principle as the Kardasians and their army of deluded fans

[ThriceShy]

Weren't you the one last year campaigning for Danny to be ejected/evicted because of a few tweets he'd made in the past, even going so far as to create a ****ing website called 'getdannyout.com'? :umm2:

No.:shrug:

[Amy Jade]

Weren't you the one last year campaigning for Danny to be ejected/evicted because of a few tweets he'd made in the past, even going so far as to create a ****ing website called 'getdannyout.com'? :umm2:

:laugh2:

[Amy Jade]

It's about a very real truth....about idiots who admire rich people with quilted lifestyles just because they've been conditioned to by the rich people's publicity machine...same principle as the Kardasians and their army of deluded fans

It's an opinion.

[Ashley.]

It's about a very real truth....about idiots who admire rich people with quilted lifestyles just because they've been conditioned to by the rich people's publicity machine...same principle as the Kardasians and their army of deluded fans

Blimey.

[ThriceShy]

:laugh2:

You might want to check his facts before you get carried away.

I asked that danny be removed because of his violent outbursts in the house. I had nothing to do with any website.

Jack appears to be making stuff up now in a desperate attempty to put the boot into andrew.

[Withano]

"Im not a racist, some of my best parents are black"

:joker:

[Ashley.]

You might want to check his facts before you get carried away.

I asked that danny be removed because of his violent outbursts in the house. I had nothing to do with any website.

Jack appears to be making stuff up now in a desperate attempty to put the boot into andrew.

Yeah great, but you used Danny's tweets several times to defend yourself. Now you're saying people shouldn't do that. Why's that?

[ThriceShy]

Yeah great, but you used Danny's tweets several times to defend yourself. Now you're saying people shouldn't do that. Why's that?

I seem to remember danny's tweets were threats of violence and wishing death etc on women.

Completely different to this situation.

What jack just said was pure lies and a retraction and apology is expected.

[Amy Jade]

You might want to check his facts before you get carried away.

I asked that danny be removed because of his violent outbursts in the house. I had nothing to do with any website.

Jack appears to be making stuff up now in a desperate attempty to put the boot into andrew.
Jack simply asked if it was you he made no accusations

I would suggest you take your own advice and do some research also, never know you could eventually learn the definition of '***' but I'll not hold my breath :hee:

[ThriceShy]

Jack simply asked if it was you he made no accusations

I would suggest you take your own advice and do some research also, never know you could eventually learn the definition of '***' but I'll not hold my breath :hee:

Nobody did what jack suggested. The whole get danny out thing was based on his violence in the house. His threatening tweets against women just confirmed it.

[Headie]

Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter.

Wrong. I suggest you watch the first 30 seconds of this video and then have another go at getting the facts right.
F10eXb247qU

[Jack_]

No.:shrug:

I think you'll find you did

http://www.getdannyout.com/big-brother-connections.html

Do I need to draw you a diagram?

The whole point of that getdannyout site is to suggest that he is being protected because he is friends with production/hosts/legendary housemates.

So I suppose this concludes the mystery of who made this site then

I am happy to take responsibility for the site.

Have you read the tweets he wrote?

His tweet to chloe goodman also shows that he hates women and defends sexual assault.

I am stunned at this latest one.

Saying fat women should keep to their own kind. I think the bloke is a psychopath.

What if their tweets totally contradict the persona they take on in the big brother house?

What if danny acts like a white knight in the house, protecting the women and saying he won't allow bullying, but tweets that he hopes chloe goodman is bullied in the street and fat women in clubs should stick to their own kind and not try it on with him?

[Amy Jade]

Nobody did what jack suggested. The whole get danny out thing was based on his violence in the house. His threatening tweets against women just confirmed it.

But you are being a hypocrite. One thread you say the world has gone PC mad for being offended by Andrew using racial slurs and you say it should have no grounds for what we think of him in the house yet you admit to wanting Danny ejected last year based on his old tweets.

I know you're just doing it to be contraversial but you're doing a bad job of it.

[Jack_]

You might want to check his facts before you get carried away.

I asked that danny be removed because of his violent outbursts in the house. I had nothing to do with any website.

Jack appears to be making stuff up now in a desperate attempty to put the boot into andrew.

Eh? You might want to check your facts and read threads properly because in case you've missed it, not only have I said his tweets shouldn't mean he's ejected, I have also said he looks like a promising housemate.

What I am doing is highlighting your complete hypocrisy in saying there's nothing wrong with Andrew's tweets and we shouldn't be holding them against him, whilst just last year you were doing exactly the same thing and even created a ****ing website which had a page with a load of said tweets on :laugh2:

Now I wonder why you don't mind Andrew's tweets :think:

[ThriceShy]

Eh? You might want to check your facts and read threads properly because in case you've missed it, not only have I said his tweets shouldn't mean he's ejected, I have also said he looks like a promising housemate.

What I am doing is highlighting your complete hypocrisy in saying there's nothing wrong with Andrew's tweets and we shouldn't be holding them against him, whilst just last year you were doing exactly the same thing and even created a ****ing website which had a page with a load of said tweets on :laugh2:

Now I wonder why you don't mind Andrew's tweets :think:

I created no website.

You accused me of it last year and I said yes it was me so you could dig the hole deeper. :laugh:

The danny situation bears no resemblance to this. He had violent episodes in the house and wanted people to be attacked in the street.

It is so desperate it is laughable.

[Headie]

Omg you posted this in that Danny thread I'm screaming :joker:

Where are these rules stated that we must only judge them on what we see in the house?

Does it apply to the celebrity series, where we may have known the contestant for 30 years before they went in? Are we meant to disregard that 30 years?

Why shouldn't we consider all information before voting to give someone £100,000?

If twitter had existed during BB4, and we found tweets where cameron said he loved satan and visited prossies, would that have been irrelevant?

[ThriceShy]

Don't you just love it when forum members get so obsessed with you, instead of the housemates, that they go searching through your old posts.:laugh:

[Headie]

Don't you just love it when forum members get so obsessed with you, instead of the housemates, that they go searching through your old posts.:laugh:

Yeah it's great :joker:

[Headie]

Me @ ThriceShy

That is up to you.

But why can't I, and others, choose to include other information when we decide who to vote for.

Who made you the boss?

[Jack_]

I created no website.

You accused me of it last year and I said yes it was me so you could dig the hole deeper. :laugh:

The danny situation bears no resemblance to this. He had violent episodes in the house and wanted people to be attacked in the street.

It is so desperate it is laughable.

Actually, if you check the quotes back you'll see it was Ross you responded to saying you take responsibility for the website, not me.

Danny's tweets about people being 'attacked in the street' could've been interpreted as jokes just as much as you're saying Andrew's could be. There isn't a difference whatsoever, just that you agree with Andrew's comments and his 'right to free speech' and so are rather hypocritically defending him in a way you didn't with Danny. At least be consistent like I am

[Marsh.]

Does Andrew holiday in Dubai too? :fist:

[Jack_]

Don't you just love it when forum members get so obsessed with you, instead of the housemates, that they go searching through your old posts.:laugh:

I had an inclining you were contradicting yourself based on things you'd said in the past, asked you if that were the case, didn't believe your answer so went to check for myself. Nothing to do with obsession luv, just wanting to expose hypocrisy :laugh:

[Ross.]

Me at this expose

http://66.media.tumblr.com/6e927a5b6e3ceade7fa9a023ba4a9311/tumblr_mlxya6hyee1qbh0eio4_250.gif

[Shaun]

Omg you posted this in that Danny thread I'm screaming :joker:

https://66.media.tumblr.com/4ec0d83990206f7843d1f5dcd94c4003/tumblr_ml1sj1925J1qkgh4go1_540.png

[Headie]

Me at this expose

http://66.media.tumblr.com/6e927a5b6e3ceade7fa9a023ba4a9311/tumblr_mlxya6hyee1qbh0eio4_250.gif

https://66.media.tumblr.com/28a924d5abd826c7f8fe8c82b9a98912/tumblr_o8i6daQzHH1v9roxto7_400.gif

[Headie]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/4ec0d83990206f7843d1f5dcd94c4003/tumblr_ml1sj1925J1qkgh4go1_540.png

:joker:

[Headie]

@ThriceShy
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-01/enhanced/webdr02/12/13/anigif_enhanced-buzz-7311-1389551931-12.gif

[MB.]

Jack 4 mod

[hot2go]

Don't you just love it when forum members get so obsessed with you, instead of the housemates, that they go searching through your old posts.:laugh:

Could be worse, you could be the sort of wanker that they approve of

[ThriceShy]

Actually, if you check the quotes back you'll see it was Ross you responded to saying you take responsibility for the website, not me.

Danny's tweets about people being 'attacked in the street' could've been interpreted as jokes just as much as you're saying Andrew's could be. There isn't a difference whatsoever, just that you agree with Andrew's comments and his 'right to free speech' and so are rather hypocritically defending him in a way you didn't with Danny. At least be consistent like I am

We are here to discuss the housemates not me.

I have no idea of your consistency as I have never been obsessed enough to search your old posts.

Let's stick to discussing the housemates.

[ThriceShy]

Could be worse, you could be the sort of wanker that they approve of

:joker::joker::joker:

I am just flattered that I am more interesting than the housemates. Perhaps I should apply.

[Marsh.]

We are here to discuss the housemates not me.

I have no idea of your consistency as I have never been obsessed enough to search your old posts.

Let's stick to discussing the housemates.

Nobody even has to search your old posts. I knew you were a hypocrite because I remember all of your belly aching over Chloe's instagram last year.

[ThriceShy]

I had an inclining you were contradicting yourself based on things you'd said in the past, asked you if that were the case, didn't believe your answer so went to check for myself. Nothing to do with obsession luv, just wanting to expose hypocrisy :laugh:

Not sure what is more worrying.......the fact you research me or the fact you are inclining for me.:joker:

[Jack_]

We are here to discuss the housemates not me.

I have no idea of your consistency as I have never been obsessed enough to search your old posts.

Let's stick to discussing the housemates.

Twenty minutes and this is your response? That's it?

We are discussing the housemates. Danny was chastised last year for things he'd tweeted before the show, much like Andrew is being this year. The difference being is that you're defending Andrew when you weren't with Danny.

You cannot sit here and preach to people that they're the real 'bigots' and 'ignorant' (how about you take some of your own advice about discussing the housemates only, btw?) for not allowing Andrew to express his opinions and right to free speech when you weren't offering Danny the same privilege last series. It's hypocritical

[Headie]

A mod can close this thread now, Jack has won this online debate :clap1:

[Jamie89]

Omg :joker:

[ThriceShy]

Twenty minutes and this is your response?

You are timing me now??? Wow, that is dedication. I think you might need a hobby.

[Jack_]

Not sure what is more worrying.......the fact you research me or the fact you are inclining for me.:joker:

Not sure what's more worrying, the fact you're pulling me up for an autocorrect mistake, or the fact you've made several grammatical and spelling mistakes of your own in this thread :joker:

Please don't make me post the definition of bigot again.

He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that. He is just a bit of a WUM on twitter.

'Twitter' is a company and requires a capital letter.

So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

'Andrew' is a name so requires a capital letter.

You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters. That tag applies more to andrew's detractors than it does to andrew.

It just looks ignorant to keep using the wrong word.

Again, the name Andrew (which you've used twice here) needs a capital letter.

Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

Capital letter for Andrew again.

I simply haven't taken his comments in isolation. The briefest bit of investigoogling reveals him to be black. Believing a black man can be racist against blacks is as dense as it gets, in my opinion.

At worst, he is just a twitter troll in the katie hopkins or frankie boyle mode.

The desire to make it something else is simply fans of other housemates trying to scuttle him.

Katie Hopkins and Frankie Boyle, are...you guessed it, names. So they require capital letters.

You might want to check his facts before you get carried away.

I asked that danny be removed because of his violent outbursts in the house. I had nothing to do with any website.

Jack appears to be making stuff up now in a desperate attempty to put the boot into andrew.

The names 'Danny' and 'Andrew' need capital letters. And what does 'attempty' mean?

I seem to remember danny's tweets were threats of violence and wishing death etc on women.

Completely different to this situation.

What jack just said was pure lies and a retraction and apology is expected.

Danny's name needs a capital letter, as does mine.

Nobody did what jack suggested. The whole get danny out thing was based on his violence in the house. His threatening tweets against women just confirmed it.

Again, my name needs a capital letter and so does Danny's.

I created no website.

You accused me of it last year and I said yes it was me so you could dig the hole deeper. :laugh:

The danny situation bears no resemblance to this. He had violent episodes in the house and wanted people to be attacked in the street.

It is so desperate it is laughable.

Danny = capital letter

Don't you just love it when forum members get so obsessed with you, instead of the housemates, that they go searching through your old posts.:laugh:

That's a question not a statement, therefore it requires a question mark at the end of it.

[Jack_]

You are timing me now??? Wow, that is dedication. I think you might need a hobby.

No response to the rest of the post then?

I guess it took you so long because you were so speechless, and didn't know how to justify your hypocrisy.

[ThriceShy]

No response to the rest of the post then?

I guess it took you so long because you were so speechless, and didn't know how to justify your hypocrisy.

We are here to discuss the housemates. I won't be justifying myself to you or anybody else. Sorry about that.

[T*]

buy 'Uncover' by Zara Larsson on iTunes!

[ThriceShy]

Now I know how Michael Douglas felt in fatal attraction.

[Jack_]

We are here to discuss the housemates. I won't be justifying myself to you or anybody else. Sorry about that.

Then don't call people 'ignorant' or 'bigots' for not defending Andrew's right to free speech and his own opinion when you didn't do the same thing last year with Danny

Practice what you preach and maybe people will start to take the arguments you're making seriously. Sorry about that.

[AnnieK]

This thread is hilarious. Andrew has potential to be a great housemate but a louse as a human being

[ThriceShy]

Then don't call people 'ignorant' or 'bigots' for not defending Andrew's right to free speech and his own opinion when you didn't do the same thing last year with Danny

Practice what you preach and maybe people will start to take the arguments you're making seriously. Sorry about that.


I will do what I like thanks. Now back on topic.....

[T*]

Now I know how Gail porter feels like because this thread gave me ALOPECIA

[Jack_]

I will do what I like thanks. Now back on topic.....

And as a result people will continue to pay no attention to your contradictory posts!

Enjoy your evening :)

[Jack_]

Now I know how Gail porter feels like because this thread gave me ALOPECIA

:laugh2:

[Walter White]

We are here to discuss the housemates. I won't be justifying myself to you or anybody else. Sorry about that.

I will do what I like thanks. Now back on topic.....

Please, somebody, where's the Natalie saying oh **** off gif?

[ThriceShy]

Now I know how Gail porter feels like because this thread gave me ALOPECIA

I get the feeling that Jack is tearing his hair out too.

[T*]

I get the feeling that Jack is tearing his hair out too.



I have a feeling your clutching at the strands after Jack has left you wigless and quite rightly so

[T*]

I mean you're but you get me

[T*]

But this is pretty much crystal clear proof that thrice spy is a troll?
He's obviously always the opposite of rational opinion to get a rise out of people
LBR here

[Ashley.]

Now back on topic.....

...Go on then?

[hot2go]

But this is pretty much crystal clear proof that thrice spy is a troll?
He's obviously always the opposite of rational opinion to get a rise out of people
LBR here

You like to OUT people don't you ?..First calling people racist with no tangible proof and now targeting people on here calling them trolls...maybe you should stop...and imagine someone doing it to you

[hot2go]

:joker::joker::joker:

I am just flattered that I am more interesting than the housemates. Perhaps I should apply.

Then they'd say you were a mole

[ThriceShy]

You like to OUT people don't you ?..First calling people racist with no tangible proof and now targeting people on here calling them trolls...maybe you should stop...and imagine someone doing it to you

I don't mind it. It just confirms I am right.

[Jack_]

I get the feeling that Jack is tearing his hair out too.

No luv, I tore yours out and now you're sweeping up the mess of it that's laying at the bottom of this thread, trying to piece it back together

[ThriceShy]

Then they'd say you were a mole

It's ironic but I think entering the house is the only way to stop them talking about me.:joker:

[T*]

You like to OUT people don't you ?..First calling people racist with no tangible proof and now targeting people on here calling them trolls...maybe you should stop...and imagine someone doing it to you



Andrew was mostly homophobic, not racist :hee:

[T*]

Actually he was equal amounts of both
But you don't want to talk about the homophobic side of him, do you?...

[T*]

This is a pic of his dad:



https://images.chesscomfiles.com/uploads/images_users/tiny_mce/MikeKlein/phpgfKRST.jpeg



Andrew is part black.



Doesn't excuse him from calling people 'chinks' now does it?

[ThriceShy]

Actually he was equal amounts of both
But you don't want to talk about the homophobic side of him, do you?...

Could you take that to a relevant thread. This is about his alleged racism. The clue is in the title of the thread.

[T*]

Could you take that to a relevant thread. This is about his alleged racism. The clue is in the title of the thread.



Nice dodge of the question and my last post!

[Niamh.]

So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

When did I decide he was racist? The only thing I ever commented on regarding his tweets was the one about women :shrug:

[ThriceShy]

When did I decide he was racist? The only thing I ever commented on regarding his tweets was the one about women :shrug:

So you agree he isn't racist. Glad we have made progress.

[Niamh.]

So you agree he isn't racist. Glad we have made progress.

How is it progress if I never made any sort of comment on it in the first place? :laugh:

[ThriceShy]

How is it progress if I never made any sort of comment on it in the first place? :laugh:

Why are you posting in a thread about his alleged racism then? Are you prepared to nail your colours the mast and say whether you think he is racist?

[ThriceShy]

How is it progress if I never made any sort of comment on it in the first place? :laugh:

Why are you posting in a thread about his alleged racism then? Are you prepared to nail your colours to the mast and say whether you think he is racist?

[Niamh.]

Why are you posting in a thread about his alleged racism then? Are you prepared to nail your colours the mast and say whether you think he is racist?



Jesus Christ all this because I asked you where you got a photo, chill out man. I have no opinion on whether he's racist or not


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[Marsh.]

Why are you posting in a thread about his alleged racism then? Are you prepared to nail your colours the mast and say whether you think he is racist?

Stop getting personal.

[ThriceShy]

I have no opinion on whether he's racist or not


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Are you sure this is the right thread for you?

[ThriceShy]

Stop getting personal.

Eh? What is personal in that post?:shrug:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Yes. I hear black people using the N word all the time.

***** is different than Nigg-r

But yes possibly a self hater.

[ThriceShy]

***** is different than Nigg-r

But yes possibly a self hater.

Oh right so white people can say the one ending in "a". Glad that was clarified.

[Amy Jade]

The cheers will give it away it's not real

[Niamh.]

Are you this is the right thread for you?



I will post wherever I please :hee:


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[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Oh right so white people can say the one ending in "a". Glad that was clarified.

But why do white people have to have right to everything? Just let black people use the one in A and don't use the other which has a negative history against it.

[ThriceShy]

I will post wherever I please :hee:


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I'm not claiming you can't. I just find it odd you would post about something you have no opinion of. I waste a lot of time on forums but I draw the line there.

[ThriceShy]

But why do white people have to have right to everything? Just let black people use the one in A and don't use the other which has a negative history against it.

Oh so white people can't use either one. I thought you said the one ending in "a" was different.

I almost wish I hadn't started this thread now. It is all so confusing.:joker:

[Withano]

Op, what is your point? Youve contradicted yourself throughout this thread, you bring in new information outside of your original post and its title but you tell people to leave when they do so.

Do you still have a point you want to discuss because it isnt clear.. or is this just about you having a few argumens?

[Niamh.]

I'm not claiming you can't. I just find it odd you would post about something you have no opinion of. I waste a lot of time on forums but I draw the line there.



But I didn't, I just asked you where you got the photo, I never imagined it would turn into such a big thing.


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[ThriceShy]

But I didn't, I just asked you where you got the photo, I never imagined it would turn into such a big thing.


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Yes I understand. Google has only been around 18 years so how to get photos is still a mystery to some.

I suspect you were hoping that you would expose my pic as not his dad. To be fair that is a better gambit than most of the also rans in this thread used.

[MrWong]

Op, what is your point? Youve contradicted yourself throughout this thread, you bring in new information outside of your original post and its title but you tell people to leave when they do so.

Do you still have a point you want to discuss because it isnt clear.. or is this just about you having a few argumens?

His petty row with Niamh points to the latter.

[Marsh.]

Eh? What is personal in that post?:shrug:

Stop talking about Niamh and whether she should post in a thread or not and stick to the topic. :hee:

[Marsh.]

Yes I understand. Google has only been around 18 years so how to get photos is still a mystery to some.

I suspect you were hoping that you would expose my pic as not his dad. To be fair that is a better gambit than most of the also rans in this thread used.

No, it's a simple question.

I could post a random picture and claim it's Natalie's cousin. It's not unreasonable to ask where you got the picture of his dad from.

"Google" isn't exactly a reliable source.

[ThriceShy]

Stop talking about Niamh and whether she should post in a thread or not and stick to the topic. :hee:

Stop talking about me and what I say to nailmh and stick to the topic. Thanks.

[ThriceShy]

No, it's a simple question.

I could post a random picture and claim it's Natalie's cousin. It's not unreasonable to ask where you got the picture of his dad from.

"Google" isn't exactly a reliable source.

Psst.....his dad is a famous chess player.

[Marsh.]

Psst.....his dad is a famous chess player.

Pssst.... that's not what I asked.

[Ant.]

ThriceShy remember how you said you win most online debates?

Now remind me, what number is this one that you've lost since Tuesday? I've lost count.

[ThriceShy]

Pssst.... that's not what I asked.

Your post didn't contain a question.:conf:

[Brother Leon]

I haven't seen these tweets. Is it him just saying ***** or is it deeper than that?

[Marsh.]

Your post didn't contain a question.:conf:

No it was explaining the original question posed by Niamh, which you're still failing to grasp.

[Marsh.]

I haven't seen these tweets. Is it him just saying ***** or is it deeper than that?

He called Cheryl Cole a "*** socket".

[ThriceShy]

ThriceShy remember how you said you win most online debates?

Now remind me, what number is this one that you've lost since Tuesday? I've lost count.

If this is you lot winning then I don't think I want to see you lose.

[ThriceShy]

No it was explaining the original question posed by Niamh, which you're still failing to grasp.

Which question?

[Amy Jade]

If this is you lot winning then I don't think I want to see you lose.

You haven't seen anyone lose an argument against you. You either ignore the points made or you claim people are obsessed or bigoted.

[Ant.]

If this is you lot winning then I don't think I want to see you lose.

... are you implying you win? Whenever you're clocked you ignore them, putting your fingers in your ears and singing "la la la"

You're losing every argument you try to pitch, and it's okay! Denial is the first stage of acceptance, and the denial stage is a very long period of time, which is why I'm willing to be patient with you! Especially since you still think Winston was a good housemate :)

[Marsh.]

Which question?

:joker: :joker: :joker:

[MrWong]

I haven't seen these tweets. Is it him just saying ***** or is it deeper than that?

Here's a few..

Cheryl cole is a massive *** socket

I am genuinely better than all of you. All you blacks white and chinky bastards. And ****S. "oh i run curry shop im richings" your a ****

The racist lady on the train is right.

pONVYjAd1wc

[Jack_]

This thread has been quite an annihilation of ThriceShy from start to finish hasn't it

[Ant.]

This thread has been quite an annihilation of ThriceShy from start to finish hasn't it

And this is us losing! :joker:

[Niamh.]

Yes I understand. Google has only been around 18 years so how to get photos is still a mystery to some.

I suspect you were hoping that you would expose my pic as not his dad. To be fair that is a better gambit than most of the also rans in this thread used.



That's an awful lot assuming from you, I can confirm you were incorrect though, I think you'll find that I actually quite like Andrew (even if I found one of his tweets sexist) he's going to be a very interesting HM


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[ThriceShy]

Here's a few..







pONVYjAd1wc

A bit of reading between the lies wouldn't go amiss. He is trolling twitter and you got trolled.

His dad is as black as the proverbial ace of spades. Given that startling piece of new information, his tweets are just wind ups.

[Ant.]

A bit of reading between the lies wouldn't go amiss. He is trolling twitter and you got trolled.

His dad is as black as the proverbial ace of spades. Given that startling piece of new information, his tweets are just wind ups.

Or!!! He's racist!! Does the fact his dad is black mean he cannot be racist?

[ThriceShy]

This thread has been quite an annihilation of ThriceShy from start to finish hasn't it

The frightening thing is that I really think you do believe that.:joker:

[MrWong]

A bit of reading between the lies wouldn't go amiss. He is trolling twitter and you got trolled.

His dad is as black as the proverbial ace of spades. Given that startling piece of new information, his tweets are just wind ups.

Yeah you're right. He's not racist.

Chinky and *** are terms of endearment :love:

[Ant.]

The frightening thing is that I really think you do believe that.:joker:

The frightening thing is that I really think you do believe that Andrew isn't racist :joker:

[ThriceShy]

Yeah you're right. He's not racist.

Chinky and *** are terms of endearment :love:

Every single person I have ever met, and seen go for a chinese takeaway, has said they are going to the "chinkies." That is how life is and you know it. It doesn't mean they hate chinese people.

Why would he use "***" in a genuinely offensive way when he is half black? It doesn't make any sense. Do you think he called his dad a *** every time he saw him?

The sheer variety of his targets on twitter tell you that he is just a wind up like katie hopkins.

[ThriceShy]

Or!!! He's racist!! Does the fact his dad is black mean he cannot be racist?

Erm.... the fact his dad is black means that he is black.

Dont tell me I have to teach you lot the birds and the bees too,

[Ashley.]

Every single person I have ever met, and seen go for a chinese takeaway, has said they are going to the "chinkies."

That's a new one.

[Ant.]

Erm.... the fact his dad is black means that he is black.

Dont tell me I have to teach you lot the birds and the bees too,

THIS JUST IN: Black people cannot be racist.

I know you're delusional (evident from the fact you stan Winston and think you win online debates) so this news may be a shocking revelation to you.

[Ant.]

Every single person I have ever met, and seen go for a chinese takeaway, has said they are going to the "chinkies." That is how life is and you know it. It doesn't mean they hate chinese people.

Why would he use "***" in a genuinely offensive way when he is half black? It doesn't make any sense. Do you think he called his dad a *** every time he saw him?

The sheer variety of his targets on twitter tell you that he is just a wind up like katie hopkins.

I have never met someone say they're going to the 'chinkies'. It doesn't matter if they mean it maliciously or not, it's a racist term.

And I don't know his mind? Ask him? He still used an offensive term?

[ThriceShy]

THIS JUST IN: Black people cannot be racist.

I know you're delusional (evident from the fact you stan Winston and think you win online debates) so this news may be a shocking revelation to you.

Please discuss the housemates and not me. Thanks.

[Northern Monkey]

We always call the chinese takeaway the chinky round here.

[MrWong]

Every single person I have ever met, and seen go for a chinese takeaway, has said they are going to the "chinkies." That is how life is and you know it. It doesn't mean they hate chinese people.

Why would he use "***" in a genuinely offensive way when he is half black? It doesn't make any sense. Do you think he called his dad a *** every time he saw him?

The sheer variety of his targets on twitter tell you that he is just a wind up like katie hopkins.

Stopped at the **** shop on the way home no doubt.

I already said why he might use racist language.

[Ant.]

Please discuss the housemates and not me. Thanks.

I'll discuss who I like, as you clearly discuss others. You're delusional, you didn't respond to my other comment, Andrew is racist, you're losing every argument, facts are facts, the quicker you accept it, the quicker you can get over it

[ThriceShy]

We always call the chinese takeaway the chinky round here.

Exactly. Everybody of every race does it.

[AnnieK]

FFS.....is this still going on lol. The fact he has used Degrogatory terms as he has...does not in itself prove that he is racist...but it does prove that he is below average intelligence ...if he thinks using terms like like make him intelligent. He is loathsome and actually below par intelligent if that is the extent of his vocabulary and wit.

[Marsh.]

"Everybody" calls the chinese chip shop the "chinkies".

"Everybody" calls the corner shop the "p*** shop"

This must mean those terms are not racist.

:laugh2: This forum.

[ThriceShy]

Stopped at the **** shop on the way home no doubt.

I already said why he might use racist language.

Actually yes. Most people I know say the "**** shop". That is how life is. The people who make such a big deal of it are in the tiny minority.

[Amy Jade]

The argument that some say when they go to the take away and say chinky is irrelevant because his tweet wasn't about a ****ing takeaway

It was him trying to tell others who he was superior to, he put 'black, whites and chinks' he wasn't saying he was better than his local chippy in that context.

[Marsh.]

Actually yes. Most people I know say the "**** shop". That is how life is. The people who make such a big deal of it are in the tiny minority.

Most people you know say it, therefore it's not racist.

Loving the logic.

[Ant.]

Actually yes. Most people I know say the "**** shop". That is how life is. The people who make such a big deal of it are in the tiny minority.

Do you have a statistic for this? Or does it lack substance and proof like every argument you put up?

[MrWong]

The argument that some say when they go to the take away and say chinky is irrelevant because his tweet wasn't about a ****ing takeaway

:joker:

[Marsh.]

He also said "the racist lady on the tram was right" therefore he's admitted to agreeing with racist views so the argument over whether or not he's racist is pointless. He's referred to himself as one.

[ThriceShy]

He also said "the racist lady on the tram was right" therefore he's admitted to agreeing with racist views so the argument over whether or not he's racist is pointless. He's referred to himself as one.

How do you know he was being honest?

[Ant.]

He also said "the racist lady on the tram was right" therefore he's admitted to agreeing with racist views so the argument over whether or not he's racist is pointless. He's referred to himself as one.

but he's black!!!!1111111eleven!!! black people possibly could not be prejudice against races!

[MrWong]

Actually yes. Most people I know say the "**** shop". That is how life is. The people who make such a big deal of it are in the tiny minority.

All that tells me is that most of the people you know are ignorant *****.

[Ant.]

How do you know he was being honest?

How do you not?

[ThriceShy]

How do you not?

I asked first.

[Marsh.]

How do you know he was being honest?

He said it himself and I have no evidence to suggest he was lying, he has no reason to.

How do you know he wasn't?

[ThriceShy]

He said it himself and I have no evidence to suggest he was lying, he has no reason to.

How do you know he wasn't?

Why would a black person agree with a racist? It is exactly what a WUM would say.

[Ant.]

Why would a black person agree with a racist? It is exactly what a WUM would say.

He seemed pretty serious about it. And being black doesnt excuse him from being a racist? Why is that hard to comprehend?

[Marsh.]

Why would a black person agree with a racist? It is exactly what a WUM would say.

It's not an isolated comment though is it as evidenced by his twitter.

I could also ask, why are some people racist? I have no idea, some people in this life are complete scum.

[ThriceShy]

All that tells me is that most of the people you know are ignorant *****.

These are people from different walks of life and different races. Most people in this country do it. The delicate flowers on reddit, campaigning to bring in the thought police. are just a tiny minority who everyone else laughs at.

[Ant.]

These are people from different walks of life and different races. Most people in this country do it. The delicate flowers on reddit, campaigning to bring in the thought police. are just a tiny minority who everyone else laughs at.

How do you know most people in this country do it? Do you have a statistic?

[ThriceShy]

It's not an isolated comment though is it as evidenced by his twitter.

I could also ask, why are some people racist? I have no idea, some people in this life are complete scum.

Do you believe that frankie boyle and katie hopkins mean everything they say on twitter.

[AnnieK]

These are people from different walks of life and different races. Most people in this country do it. The delicate flowers on reddit, campaigning to bring in the thought police. are just a tiny minority who everyone else laughs at.

Can I ask what age you are and where you come from?

I only ask as in my youth a lot of people said what you are inferring but now....I can't remember in the last 10 years anyone saying "chinky" or "***** shop" without being seriously old or racist....

[Jack_]

Do you have a statistic for this? Or does it lack substance and proof like every argument you put up?

Don't be expecting any stats like the ones I provided him the other day when he asked for some

The reason? There ain't any :hehe:

[Marsh.]

Do you believe that frankie boyle and katie hopkins mean everything they say on twitter.

Do you believe Frankie Boyle and Katie Hopkins have any relevance to the conversation we're having?

Whether they're fake or not has no bearing on Andrew.

[Ant.]

Don't be expecting any stats like the ones I provided him the other day when he asked for some

The reason? There ain't any :hehe:

Exactly!

Do you remember when he responded to your stats? No? Same. I wonder why :hehe:

[MrWong]

These are people from different walks of life and different races. Most people in this country do it. The delicate flowers on reddit, campaigning to bring in the thought police. are just a tiny minority who everyone else laughs at.

:joker: How's that an argument? It can't be measured.

[Mystic Mock]

It's not an isolated comment though is it as evidenced by his twitter.

I could also ask, why are some people racist? I have no idea, some people in this life are complete scum.

Tbf there are actually some decent reasons as to why some people could be racist/xenophobic even though it might not be the most PC thing to say.

What I mean by that is I think people from WWII would be understandable to still have issues with Germany and Japan as they lived through the times where those two countries were a lot harsher and nastier than they are now.

Obviously completely off topic, but I'm just saying that I don't think that all racists are necessarily scum.

As with Andrew I do wonder if he made those Tweets to get into the house? Either way the show should be careful about having him win as he'd be more controversial than Helen Wood.:joker:

[Jack_]

Can I ask what age you are and where you come from?

I only ask as in my youth a lot of people said what you are inferring but now....I can't remember in the last 10 years anyone saying "chinky" or "***** shop" without being seriously old or racist....

ThriceShy thinks in 2016 the majority of people don't support gay adoption or homosexual relationships being taught in school, so I'm not surprised he still thinks people use terms like this

Maybe he's been Timebombed back to 1953? He did say maybe he should be a housemate

[ThriceShy]

Do you believe Frankie Boyle and Katie Hopkins have any relevance to the conversation we're having?

Whether they're fake or not has no bearing on Andrew.

He is a wind up just like they are.

If you take all his tweets as serious then you must take theirs. Or do you have a reason to think he means his and they dont mean theirs?

[Marsh.]

Tbf there are actually some decent reasons as to why some people could be racist/xenophobic even though it might not be the most PC thing to say.

What I mean by that is I think people from WWII would be understandable to still have issues with Germany and Japan as they lived through the times where those two countries were a lot harsher and nastier than they are now.

Obviously completely off topic, but I'm just saying that I don't think that all racists are necessarily scum.

As with Andrew I do wonder if he made those Tweets to get into the house? Either way the show should be careful about having him win as he'd be more controversial than Helen Wood.:joker:

Mock mate, this isn't the time for random intervals.

[Marsh.]

He is a wind up just like they are.

If you take all his tweets as serious then you must take theirs. Or do you have a reason to think he means his and they dont mean theirs?

I don't take his tweets or theirs as anything of the sort, I really don't waste much time following the tweets of people like that.

I'm questioning why you think your opinion that his tweets are not serious is correct and everyone else's is wrong? None of us know Andrew so it's all just personal perspective and opinion on what people find acceptable.

So far, you've told me he's not serious because a) Katie Hopkins and Frankie Boyle are wind up merchants and b) You know a lot of people who call the Chinese takeaway "chinkies"".

Forgive me for not quite being convinced by your side of this debate.

[ThriceShy]

ThriceShy thinks in 2016 the majority of people don't support gay adoption or homosexual relationships being taught in school, so I'm not surprised he still thinks people use terms like this

Maybe he's been Timebombed back to 1953? He did say maybe he should be a housemate

Last I checked it was about 50/50 in support for gay adoption etc.

[Mystic Mock]

Mock mate, this isn't the time for random intervals.

Don't worry I've got the Popcorn ready.:joker:

[AnnieK]

Seriously...I'm starting to get a complex :laugh:

[ThriceShy]

I don't take his tweets or theirs as anything of the sort, I really don't waste much time following the tweets of people like that.

I'm questioning why you think your opinion that his tweets are not serious is correct and everyone else's is wrong? None of us know Andrew so it's all just personal perspective and opinion on what people find acceptable.

So far, you've told me he's not serious because a) Katie Hopkins and Frankie Boyle are wind up merchants and b) You know a lot of people who call the Chinese takeaway "chinkies"".

Forgive me for not quite being convinced by your side of this debate.

Check the opening post. He is black, hence I dont believe he is racist against blacks.

[Marsh.]

Check the opening post. He is black, hence I dont believe he is racist against blacks.

Whether he is actively "against" black people is by the by.

The fact he has condoned and used racial, homophobic and sexist slurs is a fact.

Whether his father is black, white or fecking green.

You have no more evidence that he was "joking" than anyone else has that he was serious.

[Ant.]

i still want my statistics TS babe x

[Ant.]

Whether he is actively "against" black people is by the by.

The fact he has condoned and used racial, homophobic and sexist slurs is a fact.

Whether his father is black, white or fecking green.

You have no more evidence that he was "joking" than anyone else has that he was serious.

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

[Mystic Mock]

Last I checked it was about 50/50 in support for gay adoption etc.

In 2013 this was the results for gay adoption in the UK.

For - 65%
Against - 35%
Not sure - 0%

There's statistics for other European countries opinions on the subject if you're interested.:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_adoption_in_Europe

[Marsh.]

The Mockinator taking a victim. :clap1:

[Ant.]

In 2013 this was the results for gay adoption in the UK.

For - 65%
Against - 35%
Not sure - 0%

There's statistics for other European countries opinions on the subject if you're interested.:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_adoption_in_Europe

Thankyou!

I was trying to find sources on gay adoption but I only found stuff for gay marriage

[AnnieK]

Whether he is actively "against" black people is by the by.

The fact he has condoned and used racial, homophobic and sexist slurs is a fact.

Whether his father is black, white or fecking green.

You have no more evidence that he was "joking" than anyone else has that he was serious.

End of thread / the winner by a clear knockout.......is Marsh :worship:

[ThriceShy]

Whether he is actively "against" black people is by the by.

The fact he has condoned and used racial, homophobic and sexist slurs is a fact.

Whether his father is black, white or fecking green.

You have no more evidence that he was "joking" than anyone else has that he was serious.

Same with Boyle and Hopkins. So why the desire to vilify him?

[Ant.]

Same with Boyle and Hopkins. So why the desire to vilify him?

Why are you so obsessed with Boyle and Hopkins for ****s sake

[ThriceShy]

In 2013 this was the results for gay adoption in the UK.

For - 65%
Against - 35%
Not sure - 0%

There's statistics for other European countries opinions on the subject if you're interested.:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_adoption_in_Europe

So about 20 million people in the UK are against gay adoption. Quite a few people that. Are they all barred from entering BB?

[Mystic Mock]

Thankyou!

I was trying to find sources on gay adoption but I only found stuff for gay marriage

I was getting a lot of stuff on Gay Marriage as well.

I think it's because Gay couples adopting a child hasn't quite registered into the mainstream media yet so it's harder to find details on it.

Anyway you're welcome.:dance:

[Marsh.]

Same with Boyle and Hopkins. So why the desire to vilify him?

The media and all kind of people have and still do vilify Hopkins and Boyle.

The "desire" to discuss Andrew is because this is a Big Brother discussion forum and he is appearing on that very same TV programme and put himself under the viewers scrutiny.

Your attempt at diverting the limelight of this conversation to Hopkins and Boyle is as laughable as it is off topic.

[Marsh.]

End of thread / the winner by a clear knockout.......is Marsh :worship:

http://cdn1.psypost.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Gay-man-with-rainbow-flag.jpg

[Mystic Mock]

So about 20 million people in the UK are against gay adoption. Quite a few people that. Are they all barred from entering BB?

I have nothing against Andrew, it's just I was interested in the statistics of how many people supported Gay Adoption.

[Ant.]

So about 20 million people in the UK are against gay adoption. Quite a few people that. Are they all barred from entering BB?

You do realise not all of the UK were interviewed, right...

I was getting a lot of stuff on Gay Marriage as well.

I think it's because Gay couples adopting a child hasn't quite registered into the mainstream media yet so it's harder to find details on it.

Anyway you're welcome.:dance:

That's probably why, and yeah I gave up after two minutes scrolling through the first page of results

[ThriceShy]

Thankyou!

I was trying to find sources on gay adoption but I only found stuff for gay marriage

Marsh wants to keep this on topic so can we stop discussing LGBT issues now.

[Ant.]

Marsh wants to keep this on topic so can we stop discussing LGBT issues now.

Don't tell me what to do sunshine. :) I'll discuss what I want, if you want to express your bigoted views then I'll thank Mock for giving me the statistics you failed to provide because you cannot back your arguments with any valid sources.

[ThriceShy]

You do realise not all of the UK were interviewed, right...





Do you know what % means?

[Marsh.]

Marsh wants to keep this on topic so can we stop discussing LGBT issues now.

Hey it's not my thread love, go off topic all you want if you like. :spin:

Just the conversation I was having with you I wanted to have about the actual topic.

[AnnieK]

I love deflection me...:laugh:

[ThriceShy]

I have nothing against Andrew, it's just I was interested in the statistics of how many people supported Gay Adoption.

20 million people being against it bursts the bubble a tad, doesn't it?:joker:

[Jack_]

Thanks Mock, there were gay adoption stats in the post I provided ThriceShy with the other day and he'd have known that if he'd paid attention to it

[ThriceShy]

I love deflection me...:laugh:

Doing what you love is what life is all about.

[Marsh.]

20 million people being against it bursts the bubble a tad, doesn't it?:joker:

The bubble of what?

Ignorance, negativity and hatred can't be in the millions?

There's a reason we have world wars.

[MrWong]

20 million people being against it bursts the bubble a tad, doesn't it?:joker:

Reducing every year :hee:

[AnnieK]

20 million people being against it bursts the bubble a tad, doesn't it?:joker:

But by that logic, the 45 million that agree with it re inflates that bubbles twice....and then some

[Jack_]

Reducing every year :hee:

Indeed, but I was told by ThriceShy it was pure fantasy that it's largely older generations who aren't as liberal, tolerant and in favour of things like gay adoption and marriage!

[Mystic Mock]

20 million people being against it bursts the bubble a tad, doesn't it?:joker:

When there's over 40 million in favour of it it's not that bad a bubble burst.:joker:

Especially when you see statistics from a lot of the other European countries.:umm2:

[Mystic Mock]

Thanks Mock, there were gay adoption stats in the post I provided ThriceShy with the other day and he'd have known that if he'd paid attention to it

You're welcome Jack.

Tbh your statistics that you found were probably more reliable as well, I just did a quick search mainly that took a little bit longer to find than I would've liked.:joker:

[ThriceShy]

But by that logic, the 45 million that agree with it re inflates that bubbles twice....and then some

Lets celebrate different opinions.

[Ant.]

Do you know what % means?

Yes?
http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=12794

It says here 1005 people in Great Britain responded. 1,005. That's 0.00156786271% of Great Britain's population. The rest of the population could have agreed with gay adoption.

[ThriceShy]

You're welcome Jack.

Tbh your statistics that you found were probably more reliable as well, I just did a quick search mainly that took a little bit longer to find than I would've liked.:joker:

I'm surprised he had time to search for them stats with all the searching of my old posts he was doing.:joker:

[ThriceShy]

Yes?
http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=12794

It says here 1005 people in Great Britain responded. 1,005. That's 0.00156786271% of Great Britain's population. The rest of the population could have agreed with gay adoption.

Oh dear.

Do you want to tell him, Mock?

[Ant.]

Oh dear.

Do you want to tell him, Mock?

tbh i just like annoying you

[Mystic Mock]

Oh dear.

Do you want to tell him, Mock?

Well tbh we'll never get a poll of how everyone in the UK truly feels, but yes it could just as easily have gone in the against camp if all of the 60 odd million people had've voted on the poll, but it could've been a bigger lead for the for camp, or stayed the same.

It's hard to say how it would go, but going off that particular poll, we're in favour of Gay Adoption by a large margin.

[Jack_]

I'm surprised he had time to search for them stats with all the searching of my old posts he was doing.:joker:

Except I collated your posts from an old thread (which took like 10 seconds to search for btw) today, I retrieved the statistics you asked for and then ignored days ago.

Have you lost too many of these online debates that you're forgetting when things have happened? Bless

[Ant.]

Mock can tell me what I already know, if you're trolling, why can't I?

[Ant.]

Well tbh we'll never get a poll of how everyone in the UK truly feels, but yes it could just as easily have gone in the against camp if all of the 60 odd million people had've voted on the poll, but it could've been a bigger lead for the for camp, or stayed the same.

oops

[ThriceShy]

tbh i just like annoying you

Disappointing when we don't get to do the things we like, isn't it.

You admission of trolling has been noted, though.

[Ant.]

Disappointing when we don't get to do the things we like, isn't it.

You admission of trolling has been noted, though.

Can we please get back to the topic of discussion rather than discussing me, a member of the forum.

[Jack_]

Can we please get back to the topic of discussion rather than discussing me, a member of the forum.

:joker:

[Ant.]

:joker:

his logic, dare I say he is a hypocrite? Much alike our friend Andrew? :omgno:

[ThriceShy]

Except I collated your posts from an old thread (which took like 10 seconds to search for btw) today, I retrieved the statistics you asked for and then ignored days ago.

Have you lost too many of these online debates that you're forgetting when things have happened? Bless

Don't feel you have to explain yourself to me.:joker:

With regard to the underlined bit, I can actually believe you have a collage of my posts. Didn't Robin Williams do that with them pictures in One Hour Photo.

[MB.]

Why is this still going on

[Ant.]

Why is this still going on

idk, ThriceShy usually gives up by now

[ThriceShy]

Why is this still going on

I have been asking that myself. All I did was post a pic of Andrew's dad and all hell broke loose.

[Marsh.]

Why is this still going on

Me in Syria.