'I've done the job almost too well'

[MTVN]

Is he right or is he right?

That was pretty brilliant how he enters, immediately sits all of them down and then tells them that 80% of them are snakes. The rest of the night they were fuming at him and he couldn't care less. Say what you want about this guy but you've gotta give credit where its due. Within 10 minutes he had completely messed with their mind and their conception of house dynamics.

[Headie]

He was told to act like he'd seen nothing at all, so he does the opposite... Ok...

[Jason.]

He's a mess.

[nonstop]

He shows no shame or remorse. It's scary.

[Amy Jade]

I mean I do appreciate the game plan but he was taking credit for a lot of what Ryan actually caused. Marco, people pretty much laughed at Andrew when he tried to spill and most of them walked away laughing.

Ryan was the one who really caused trouble and had people raging.

[Jack_]

Partly, although Ryan also has to take some of the credit for being so aggressive upon his entrance because that caused a lot of the drama

But they were certainly a lot more mind****ed and paranoid than before they entered so yeah I'd say job done :clap1:

[Tom4784]

He did nothing and he completely played it wrong. For someone who claims to be intelligent he was completely dumb in his approach. Ryan pretty much did all the work and Andrew tried to steal credit for it. His little snake line was laughed off by the entire house and only made them distrust him more, it brought them closer together more than anything else.

A smart person wouldn't have tried to stir things up instantly, they would have waited until they had the HMs' trust. You wouldn't trust a stranger if they came up to you and told you your friends were fake and playing you but you might trust someone you know saying the same thing.

[MarcusMel]

Just a reminder: the others were told to enter the house and spread paranoia and then told to act as new housemates while the crowd was screeming at them.

[Pete.]

He's wrong because he made out that he's seen the show, therefore he's not been in hiding

[ThriceShy]

Is he right or is he right?

That was pretty brilliant how he enters, immediately sits all of them down and then tells them that 80% of them are snakes. The rest of the night they were fuming at him and he couldn't care less. Say what you want about this guy but you've gotta give credit where its due. Within 10 minutes he had completely messed with their mind and their conception of house dynamics.

Greatest housemate ever. He makes the previous best (victor) look like an amateur.

[Ashley.]

He's wrong because he made out that he's seen the show, therefore he's not been in hiding

He also goofed up saying that he'd seen all of the "evictions" and "voting" when there had been none.

[Lostie!]

He did nothing and he completely played it wrong. For someone who claims to be intelligent he was completely dumb in his approach. Ryan pretty much did all the work and Andrew tried to steal credit for it. His little snake line was laughed off by the entire house and only made them distrust him more, it brought them closer together more than anything else.

A smart person wouldn't have tried to stir things up instantly, they would have waited until they had the HMs' trust. You wouldn't trust a stranger if they came up to you and told you your friends were fake and playing you but you might trust someone you know saying the same thing.

All of this :clap1:

The fact that he was trying to convince himself that he'd orchestrated everything that went down is hysterical.

[jet]

He did nothing and he completely played it wrong. For someone who claims to be intelligent he was completely dumb in his approach. Ryan pretty much did all the work and Andrew tried to steal credit for it. His little snake line was laughed off by the entire house and only made them distrust him more, it brought them closer together more than anything else.

A smart person wouldn't have tried to stir things up instantly, they would have waited until they had the HMs' trust. You wouldn't trust a stranger if they came up to you and told you your friends were fake and playing you but you might trust someone you know saying the same thing.

Exactly. Then when they all turned on him he caved and told them 'Do you not think there's a reason why I said what I did?' In other words, this is all fake don't hate me. :hee:

[cookiemonster]

he seems like a see you next tuesday but could earn legend status in terms of being a housemate

'well you asked me to do a task and i did it. within 5 minutes of me entering, 33% of the house have walked out. i'm not going to apologise for completing a task i was asked to do. the paranoia is higher than it's ever been, i think i did it a bit too well' :joker: what a ledge

[Drew.]

He's done what hardly anybody ever does.. he's lived up to his VT and provided the entertainment he said he would

[jet]

Greatest housemate ever. He makes the previous best (victor) look like an amateur.

You are quite the joker....:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

He was told to act like he'd seen nothing at all, so he does the opposite... Ok...

He did his own thing tbf which is commendable in a show like this.

[LukeB]

Andrew taking credit for what Ryan did is so lame, he speaks for like 1/2 second,goes to the diary room to talk about his ~master plan~ then is silent most of the time.. Jayne deserves his place

[MarcusMel]

Andrew taking credit for what Ryan did is so lame, he speaks for like 1/2 second,goes to the diary room to talk about his ~master plan~ then is silent most of the time.. Jayne deserves his place

Who would talk to him after that intro?

[Ant.]

All of this :clap1:

The fact that he was trying to convince himself that he'd orchestrated everything that went down is hysterical.

tbh

it annoys me how he actually thinks he did it alone... you did nothing, it was all down to Ryan

[Clootie Dumpling]

tbh

it annoys me how he actually thinks he did it alone... you did nothing, it was all down to Ryan

Hmm - I think he's just making a desperate bid to get his claim in there first and bag the title of housemate before Ryan does.

[jet]

tbh

it annoys me how he actually thinks he did it alone... you did nothing, it was all down to Ryan

He believes it was him. I'm beginning to think he's quite thick actually.

[Clootie Dumpling]

He believes it was him. I'm beginning to think he's quite thick actually.

Yes, I thought this from the start - anyone who bangs on about how intelligent they are doesn't have enough sense to keep their own counsel.

[Braden]

I just feel that he's making it up as he goes along and that he's not as smart as he wants us to think he is. The way he went about 'what he'd seen' was pretty stupid considering they all laughed him off. Fair enough if it was truly judge them based on how they would react but I don't really believe him.

[Ant.]

I just feel that he's making it up as he goes along and that he's not as smart as he wants us to think he is. The way he went about 'what he'd seen' was pretty stupid considering they all laughed him off. Fair enough if it was truly judge them based on how they would react but I don't really believe him.

Which is why he's so bad at confrontation - for ****s sake he couldn't even say anything to Marco, he just spent 2 hours thinking of how to manipulate it to make it seem like his plan

The most ****-stirring thing he's done is said '8 of you are snakes' - and by doing that he blew his cover that he was supposed to have been in hiding (fgs, emma literally said moments before he said that 'pretend you've been in hiding')

[Headie]

He's done what hardly anybody ever does.. he's lived up to his VT and provided the entertainment he said he would

lol

[Braden]

Which is why he's so bad at confrontation - for ****s sake he couldn't even say anything to Marco, he just spent 2 hours thinking of how to manipulate it to make it seem like his plan

The most ****-stirring thing he's done is said '8 of you are snakes' - and by doing that he blew his cover that he was supposed to have been in hiding (fgs, emma literally said moments before he said that 'pretend you've been in hiding')

Yeah, that's what I don't understand. He seems to want to cause trouble but is doing so in such an idiotic way. A lot of his trouble-causing is inconsequential :p

[MarcusMel]

The actual task was to get the HMs to target one amoung them for evection, only Andrew did not know that was comming. So he could not plan for that only doing what he thought BB asked him to do while in the 'Others' house. If he managed to complete this task he would then become a real housemate. Not sure what BB are going to do now!

[Drew.]

lol

Not so sure whats funny

[Northern Monkey]

Not very subtle at all.Infact like a bull in a china shop.But he blew that ****ing house up.They tried to all stick together and brush it off but by then he'd already head ****ed them.Ryan just added abit of chaos to the situation.

[Jack_]

He's done what hardly anybody ever does.. he's lived up to his VT and provided the entertainment he said he would

Fair point

[Lstan]

'I've done the job almost too well'

No hes saying that to cover the face hes blown their cover. For him to do it "too well" he would have caused chaos without suspicion. He certainly ruffled their feathers but I imagine he does that to everyone he comes across he does come off haughty.

[jennyjuniper]

I think Andrew is probably smarter than the other housemates think he is, but not nearly as smart as he thinks he is.

[Adamw92]

Is it really going to matter what he's said after Marco tells the rest of the house there's a 2nd house with people in it? They're all gonna know immediately that he was there and is just trying to stir things up. :laugh:

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Andrew taking credit for what Ryan did is so lame, he speaks for like 1/2 second,goes to the diary room to talk about his ~master plan~ then is silent most of the time.. Jayne deserves his place

This

[mr rochester]

Andrew is like a silent assassin. He listens and watches and betrays no emotion. He has a consummate skill in delivering exactly what he says he will. He hones his skill by acute observation and carefully measures what he says. I noticed when Marco was threatening to throw him out of the house (false bravado and playing to the gallery) Andrew did not flinch. In reality Andrew could have despatched him so easily because of his martial arts training. In a few carefully chosen sentences he created mayhem. He said he would and he was voted in by those who voted to see him do it. He delivered in spades. He has a brain and uses it. His icy, non-emotional demeanour will not win him friends or admirers and probably will be the reason he might not win as generally he exudes little warmth. He is the perfect housemate because of his ability to bewilder - quietly. He is a strategist and would make a first class spy...

[MarcusMel]

Apart from the aparent messed up BB mental preperation (you will be going into the house to create paranoia) followed up with (you will go into the house as a NEW HM)

I also note that Andrew then had a nice counter remark with 'and you don't bother to question why someone would come in do what I did'. Which might be BB's way of saying he also countered the HM's thinking by implying it was a task I can't talk about!

[alex_front2]

BB mucked up. They should have told all the other (Jayne, Hughie) HMs about this task prior to Andrew and Ryan being selected so that whoever entered would have time to formulate a game plan. By just telling Ryan and Andrew the mission the moment they are evicted, full of adrenaline, excitement and the baying crowd was poor production IMHO.

[Amy Jade]

Andrew is like a silent assassin. He listens and watches and betrays no emotion. He has a consummate skill in delivering exactly what he says he will. He hones his skill by acute observation and carefully measures what he says. I noticed when Marco was threatening to throw him out of the house (false bravado and playing to the gallery) Andrew did not flinch. In reality Andrew could have despatched him so easily because of his martial arts training. In a few carefully chosen sentences he created mayhem. He said he would and he was voted in by those who voted to see him do it. He delivered in spades. He has a brain and uses it. His icy, non-emotional demeanour will not win him friends or admirers and probably will be the reason he might not win as generally he exudes little warmth. He is the perfect housemate because of his ability to bewilder - quietly. He is a strategist and would make a first class spy...

I think you're giving him way too much credit

[MarcusMel]

BB mucked up. They should have told all the other (Jayne, Hughie) HMs about this task prior to Andrew and Ryan being selected so that whoever entered would have time to formulate a game plan. By just telling Ryan and Andrew the mission the moment they are evicted, full of adrenaline, excitement and the baying crowd was poor production IMHO.

Agree :cheer2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that he failed to convince even the twins says it all

He is a hot mess

[hot2go]

He was told to act like he'd seen nothing at all, so he does the opposite... Ok...

Exactly...he did it his way ...that's why it's brilliant...he knew better than BB....his plan worked better....he evicted the two good guys, set the twins into meltdown and watched the two alpha males run away....carnage within 10 mins just like he told BB he would do....this guy does exactly what it says on the tin....I can't understand what's the problem....he's one of the most exciting housemates we've seen

[waterhog]

Is he right or is he right?

That was pretty brilliant how he enters, immediately sits all of them down and then tells them that 80% of them are snakes. The rest of the night they were fuming at him and he couldn't care less. Say what you want about this guy but you've gotta give credit where its due. Within 10 minutes he had completely messed with their mind and their conception of house dynamics.



I back this all the way - but the question is - can he hold it together with a house against him ?

[hot2go]

Andrew is like a silent assassin. He listens and watches and betrays no emotion. He has a consummate skill in delivering exactly what he says he will. He hones his skill by acute observation and carefully measures what he says. I noticed when Marco was threatening to throw him out of the house (false bravado and playing to the gallery) Andrew did not flinch. In reality Andrew could have despatched him so easily because of his martial arts training. In a few carefully chosen sentences he created mayhem. He said he would and he was voted in by those who voted to see him do it. He delivered in spades. He has a brain and uses it. His icy, non-emotional demeanour will not win him friends or admirers and probably will be the reason he might not win as generally he exudes little warmth. He is the perfect housemate because of his ability to bewilder - quietly. He is a strategist and would make a first class spy...

Im right behind you mate.....first housemate I've liked to watch this much for ages....and about time too....so many diff types of viewers, about time we had one that doesn't only play to the majority...

[hot2go]

I back this all the way - but the question is - can he hold it together with a house against him ?

I know, thats a great question and i want to find out the answer ...sure as hell beats the more common questions like "will they or won't they sleep together " or " will they or won't they turn the hair straighteners back on "

Big Brother is back and about time too

[hot2go]

I think Andrew is probably smarter than the other housemates think he is, but not nearly as smart as he thinks he is.

I think he IS as smart as he thinks he is....I may be proved wrong but I would be surprised ....I hope not, I'm enjoying it too much for it to stop

[hot2go]

Partly, although Ryan also has to take some of the credit for being so aggressive upon his entrance because that caused a lot of the drama

But they were certainly a lot more mind****ed and paranoid than before they entered so yeah I'd say job done :clap1:

I agree....I love watching Andrew, I really do...and I loath Ryan on every level....but I think Ryan played a blinder....credit to him...I thought he wud def bollox it up and he didn't.....between them they owned the place last night.....Ryan got attacked more because he's not as physically intimidating....I'm sure they all wanted to attack Andrew too but Ryan easier target

[hot2go]

Greatest housemate ever. He makes the previous best (victor) look like an amateur.

Oh yeh...Victor...forgot about him....I compared Andrew to Marc O'Neill but tho Marc was a brilliant wind up merchant he was more tongue in cheek.....but yeh, Victor....this guy got similar vibe to Victor....only 100 times better

[south12345]

Arrogance of the highest level.....

[hot2go]

Arrogance of the highest level.....

He's a lot of things...arrogant, confident, calculating, intelligent, intuitive, brilliant.....all the credentials of a potential great game player and great housemate....nice guys and happy endings can be found on Midsummer Murders....arrogant can be good...depends who it is and what else it's mixed with.

[jet]

He's a lot of things...arrogant, confident, calculating, intelligent, intuitive, brilliant.....all the credentials of a potential great game player and great housemate....nice guys and happy endings can be found on Midsummer Murders....arrogant can be good...depends who it is and what else it's mixed with.

I think you fancy him :hehe: Because I just see arrogant and calculating, he hasn't proved intelligence, brilliance or great intuition yet, certainly not to the extent that you extol...

[MarcusMel]

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

I think you fancy him :hehe: Because I just see arrogant and calculating, he hasn't proved intelligence, brilliance or great intuition yet, certainly not to the extent that you extol...

:conf: Funny I was thinking the same thing as you thinking of me - along the lines of 'protest too much' :shrug: :wavey: :joker::joker::joker:





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[Tom4784]

He's a lot of things...arrogant, confident, calculating, intelligent, intuitive, brilliant.....all the credentials of a potential great game player and great housemate....nice guys and happy endings can be found on Midsummer Murders....arrogant can be good...depends who it is and what else it's mixed with.

He's certainly not calculating, intelligent, intuitive or brilliant judging by how much he flopped yesterday.

Not one person bought his bull****, the ****storm was centred around Ryan and his attitude. Nobody paid any attention to Andrew and when he did try something it failed completely.

He thinks he is a master manipulator and this sensational gameplayer but he achieved nothing. He went too big too early and anyone that knows anything about manipulation will tell you that's an amateur mistake. He should have built connections and THEN spread some seeds of drama, not dump a load of **** on the field the second he walked in. Subtlety is key and he doesn't have it.

[Valenti1]

I love Andrew! Got them all sussed :-)

[BB247]

He's certainly not calculating, intelligent, intuitive or brilliant judging by how much he flopped yesterday.

Not one person bought his bull****, the ****storm was centred around Ryan and his attitude. Nobody paid any attention to Andrew and when he did try something it failed completely.

He thinks he is a master manipulator and this sensational gameplayer but he achieved nothing. He went too big too early and anyone that knows anything about manipulation will tell you that's an amateur mistake. He should have built connections and THEN spread some seeds of drama, not dump a load of **** on the field the second he walked in. Subtlety is key and he doesn't have it.

He went in there all 'guns blazing:thumbs2:' and ended up 'shooting himself in the foot'.

[T*]

Not good enough... :amazed:

[Jamesy]

Did it so well you got ejected you tit

[BB247]

Well Darth Vader didn't last long.

[Livia]

What a massive cock he is.