[MTVN]

Is he right or is he right?

That was pretty brilliant how he enters, immediately sits all of them down and then tells them that 80% of them are snakes. The rest of the night they were fuming at him and he couldn't care less. Say what you want about this guy but you've gotta give credit where its due. Within 10 minutes he had completely messed with their mind and their conception of house dynamics.

[Headie]

He was told to act like he'd seen nothing at all, so he does the opposite... Ok...

[Jason.]

He's a mess.

[nonstop]

He shows no shame or remorse. It's scary.

[Amy Jade]

I mean I do appreciate the game plan but he was taking credit for a lot of what Ryan actually caused. Marco, people pretty much laughed at Andrew when he tried to spill and most of them walked away laughing.

Ryan was the one who really caused trouble and had people raging.

[Jack_]

Partly, although Ryan also has to take some of the credit for being so aggressive upon his entrance because that caused a lot of the drama

But they were certainly a lot more mind****ed and paranoid than before they entered so yeah I'd say job done

[Tom4784]

He did nothing and he completely played it wrong. For someone who claims to be intelligent he was completely dumb in his approach. Ryan pretty much did all the work and Andrew tried to steal credit for it. His little snake line was laughed off by the entire house and only made them distrust him more, it brought them closer together more than anything else.

A smart person wouldn't have tried to stir things up instantly, they would have waited until they had the HMs' trust. You wouldn't trust a stranger if they came up to you and told you your friends were fake and playing you but you might trust someone you know saying the same thing.

[MarcusMel]

Just a reminder: the others were told to enter the house and spread paranoia and then told to act as new housemates while the crowd was screeming at them.

[Pete.]

He's wrong because he made out that he's seen the show, therefore he's not been in hiding

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Is he right or is he right?

That was pretty brilliant how he enters, immediately sits all of them down and then tells them that 80% of them are snakes. The rest of the night they were fuming at him and he couldn't care less. Say what you want about this guy but you've gotta give credit where its due. Within 10 minutes he had completely messed with their mind and their conception of house dynamics.

Greatest housemate ever. He makes the previous best (victor) look like an amateur.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Pete.

He's wrong because he made out that he's seen the show, therefore he's not been in hiding

He also goofed up saying that he'd seen all of the "evictions" and "voting" when there had been none.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He did nothing and he completely played it wrong. For someone who claims to be intelligent he was completely dumb in his approach. Ryan pretty much did all the work and Andrew tried to steal credit for it. His little snake line was laughed off by the entire house and only made them distrust him more, it brought them closer together more than anything else.

A smart person wouldn't have tried to stir things up instantly, they would have waited until they had the HMs' trust. You wouldn't trust a stranger if they came up to you and told you your friends were fake and playing you but you might trust someone you know saying the same thing.

All of this

The fact that he was trying to convince himself that he'd orchestrated everything that went down is hysterical.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He did nothing and he completely played it wrong. For someone who claims to be intelligent he was completely dumb in his approach. Ryan pretty much did all the work and Andrew tried to steal credit for it. His little snake line was laughed off by the entire house and only made them distrust him more, it brought them closer together more than anything else.

A smart person wouldn't have tried to stir things up instantly, they would have waited until they had the HMs' trust. You wouldn't trust a stranger if they came up to you and told you your friends were fake and playing you but you might trust someone you know saying the same thing.

Exactly. Then when they all turned on him he caved and told them 'Do you not think there's a reason why I said what I did?' In other words, this is all fake don't hate me.

[cookiemonster]

he seems like a see you next tuesday but could earn legend status in terms of being a housemate

'well you asked me to do a task and i did it. within 5 minutes of me entering, 33% of the house have walked out. i'm not going to apologise for completing a task i was asked to do. the paranoia is higher than it's ever been, i think i did it a bit too well' what a ledge

[Drew.]

He's done what hardly anybody ever does.. he's lived up to his VT and provided the entertainment he said he would

[jet]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Greatest housemate ever. He makes the previous best (victor) look like an amateur.

You are quite the joker....

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Hayden

He was told to act like he'd seen nothing at all, so he does the opposite... Ok...

He did his own thing tbf which is commendable in a show like this.

[LukeB]

Andrew taking credit for what Ryan did is so lame, he speaks for like 1/2 second,goes to the diary room to talk about his ~master plan~ then is silent most of the time.. Jayne deserves his place

[MarcusMel]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Andrew taking credit for what Ryan did is so lame, he speaks for like 1/2 second,goes to the diary room to talk about his ~master plan~ then is silent most of the time.. Jayne deserves his place

Who would talk to him after that intro?

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

All of this

The fact that he was trying to convince himself that he'd orchestrated everything that went down is hysterical.

tbh

it annoys me how he actually thinks he did it alone... you did nothing, it was all down to Ryan

[Clootie Dumpling]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

tbh

it annoys me how he actually thinks he did it alone... you did nothing, it was all down to Ryan

Hmm - I think he's just making a desperate bid to get his claim in there first and bag the title of housemate before Ryan does.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

tbh

it annoys me how he actually thinks he did it alone... you did nothing, it was all down to Ryan

He believes it was him. I'm beginning to think he's quite thick actually.

[Clootie Dumpling]

Originally Posted by jet

He believes it was him. I'm beginning to think he's quite thick actually.

Yes, I thought this from the start - anyone who bangs on about how intelligent they are doesn't have enough sense to keep their own counsel.

[Braden]

I just feel that he's making it up as he goes along and that he's not as smart as he wants us to think he is. The way he went about 'what he'd seen' was pretty stupid considering they all laughed him off. Fair enough if it was truly judge them based on how they would react but I don't really believe him.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Braden

I just feel that he's making it up as he goes along and that he's not as smart as he wants us to think he is. The way he went about 'what he'd seen' was pretty stupid considering they all laughed him off. Fair enough if it was truly judge them based on how they would react but I don't really believe him.

Which is why he's so bad at confrontation - for ****s sake he couldn't even say anything to Marco, he just spent 2 hours thinking of how to manipulate it to make it seem like his plan

The most ****-stirring thing he's done is said '8 of you are snakes' - and by doing that he blew his cover that he was supposed to have been in hiding (fgs, emma literally said moments before he said that 'pretend you've been in hiding')