Survivor 34: Game Changers - Mamanuca Islands

[Calderyon]

Going to two tribes again, it seems.

I wonder who it is that´s back?

[reece(:]

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[SoBig]

I can't believe I was once a Sandra hater. Outside of Ozzy she is my favorite.

[reece(:]

https://68.media.tumblr.com/d9ac325f22c75f3f2284bc7c743e56b0/tumblr_onlvpzY6T21uyojyyo1_1280.jpg

[rk3388]

Michaela does seem like she's not as into it as last season. But her sipping the tea was one of the most iconic moments at a TC :joker:

Sandra, Michaela, and Debbie made this one of the most entertaining episodes I've seen.

[Mokka]

That was one of the best Survivor episodes, EVER <3

It seriously gave me life :worship:

Michaela and Debbie had me howling all night long

Debbie is my spirit animal... I swear to ****ing god. She embraces crazy ****ed up lunatic like I only wish I could :love:

[Headie]

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Come thru T!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Meh this episode was a bit disappointing after last weeks one.

Debbie is pathetic, I was hoping for her tribe to lose so they could vote her out, but she would only think they voted her out because she was so great at challanges...

JT is no real loss

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Michaela is really childish and pathetic as well. Her and Debbie can go in a double vote off for all I care

[Braden]

That was such a good episode, aside from Tai's hunt for the idol.

I'm glad J. T. left the way he did, and that his last two appearances have made his initial win seem like a fluke. I didn't mind him as a character this time around, but I wasn't a fan of his superior-attitude.

Debbie's outburst was literally hilarious, and I love her for it. Plus, sugar-gate was amusing with Sandra proving why she's the best. I would've liked to se Tavua at tribal council just because they're such a boring tribe and it would've been interesting to see what the dynamics were like, but oh well—at least Cirie is safe (and hopefully we'll see more of her if she isn't (somehow) swap****ed).

I really don't want the swap to screw people over. It seems that original Mana would be vulnerable seeing as the numbers are 6: 9, so hopefully one of the tribes manages to be Mana-majority.

[LukeB]

Michaela and Sandra are iconic!
https://68.media.tumblr.com/52aba396a047fe1f3104ed7ead12ab71/tumblr_onm0xbdmrJ1utpccwo7_400.gif

Cirie is a tad disappointing but i hope she shines through later on :love:

[Braden]

http://i.imgur.com/GW7qPSX.gif

[MB.]

Wonderful episode... OTTN5 Debbie is everything I could have wanted from her and more, regardless of how real it is. Going out of her way to rub the fact that she was the first one over the wall in Brad's face <3 "His head's so far up your ass his eyeballs are sticking out your mouth" <3 Michaela's systematic destruction of JT was similarly beautiful, the sugar scene was fun and Sandra, as ever, remains the queen :love: It's a shame that the Tavua tribe is a total waste of space and that they had to force an idol scene in for each of the tribes, but oh well

Exile Island ha return :clap1: But of course they'd choose to swap just as the current tribe dynamics were getting good (/better)... still, as long as the boat with the returning player pulls up and suddenly Wanda jumps off and starts singing "Survivors and we can find our food, Survivorsl that is our attitude", I'll be happy

Actual spoiler below:

I can't believe we only have one episode left of Sandra :( I propose a national day of mourning

[MB.]

Sandra to be idoled by JT him being the only vote?

Debbie´s gone tonight.

Sandra or Debbie is gone tonight.

Tai is going to get another idol tonight.

So it´s either Mikayla or Sandra gone tonight.

Any other predictions?

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[starry]

Debbie is funny.

But Sandra is getting a bull**** edit. Michaela is disliked with or without the sugar thing. It's just got hyped up for Sandra. And Sandra at the tribal sucking up 100% to everyone there was kind of ridiculous.

Michaela looked the obvious one to boot, and I don't like seeing idols wasted in most instances.

[Braden]

http://68.media.tumblr.com/dd54acac4c0740d4cd23b76fa77e10c0/tumblr_onm49iSlWd1utpccwo1_250.gif

It amazes me how gifs manage to appear out of nowhere so fast.

[Calderyon]

Any other predictions?

https://68.media.tumblr.com/2ead3a3991ea11c782538a9ab7ef2df3/tumblr_onmeortEeA1uc6xbco3_400.gif

Next week. And i was right about the gifs.

[starry]

It seriously gave me life :worship:

Michaela and Debbie had me howling all night long

Debbie is my spirit animal... I swear to ****ing god. She embraces crazy ****ed up lunatic like I only wish I could :love:

Michaela is still nothing to me, as much as the similar Ika on BBCan.

On the gif in your sig though it's better to show the Debbie smile after she had leaned back to shout.

[starry]

Sandra, Varner and Michaela - best alliance ever?

Never liked any of them.

[Headie]

Michaela is really childish and pathetic as well. Her and Debbie can go in a double vote off for all I care

https://68.media.tumblr.com/50a14826c8468a1ca1b7d8f64e7717cb/tumblr_onn04btz6q1u4ypbyo8_r1_400.gif

[Headie]

Not the editors keeping secrets from us

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[rk3388]

^ Where did the top picture come from ??

[Jack_]

One of my favourite episodes in a very long time

Debbie :laugh2: '...and I'M PISSED!' followed two minutes later by 'I don't get pissed, I just work out' <3

Sandra is a genius :love: Varner siding with her and Michaela :love:

I lost it when the tea came out <3333 glorious TV

[JerseyWins]

14 minutes into the episode.

The scene between Sarah & Troyzan just now was reeeally good & very entertaining/funny confessionals from both of them. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

I wish Debbie wasn't so annoying because going on a tirade against Brad is exactly something that this season could use.

[JerseyWins]

Jeff's facial reaction to Sandra's plan to empty the sugar jar. :laugh2: And it's working, Sandra is sooooo good :love: :joker:

[starry]

The sugar thing was so unoriginal it could have been scripted. And at tribal she is so up herself. And Michaela is such a cliche as well with the silly camp stuff.

At least with Debbie we got some realness.

[MB.]

Not the editors keeping secrets from us

https://68.media.tumblr.com/e761fe12ceaab1e3d7d18d6c8c8c64fb/tumblr_inline_onm5unTGGA1tseyg2_540.png

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Escalando!

[JerseyWins]

Lmaoooo this boot order suuuuucks.

:facepalm: @ JT getting voted out with an idol. He's been so bad at the game his past 2 seasons. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

At least with Debbie we got some realness.
How is it realness when she's faking it? :joker:

[rk3388]

Troyzan, Sierra and Brad need to go asap
Hali is actually okay.

[JerseyWins]

I like Hali and I'm loving Troyzan but Brad/Sierra/Debbie can GO. Figures that Tai is on the outside of that tribe. Get those idols!

[JerseyWins]

JT's final message... as dumb as he was this season, it's respectable that he sees it and owns it :clap1:

[Black Dagger]

Lmaoooo this boot order suuuuucks.

:facepalm: @ JT getting voted out with an idol. He's been so bad at the game his past 2 seasons. :joker:

Malcolm and JT going back to back is perfectly fine xo.

[_Tom_]

This episode was flipping iconic! Sandra, Michaela and Debbie :love:

[Epic.]

This season<333

[DouglasS]

I'm actually enjoying Hali - thought she'd be irrel

Sierra is still boring however.

[reece(:]

“Vote Early, Vote Often” – One castaway is left floating on Exile Island after a tribe switch, and the exiled castaway receives a surprise visit, on SURVIVOR, Wednesday, April 5 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

[JerseyWins]

Malcolm and JT going back to back is perfectly fine xo.
WTF

It's TRAGIC

[Marc]

This season is getting better and better.

[Marc]

Sandra is brilliant this season - i don't even care if she's booted next. It's just pure entertainment from her

[Marc]

https://68.media.tumblr.com/d9ac325f22c75f3f2284bc7c743e56b0/tumblr_onlvpzY6T21uyojyyo1_1280.jpg

:hehe:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I'm actually enjoying Hali - thought she'd be irrel

Sierra is still boring however.

I agree, for me I did not care if Hali went in the first episode as she sucked at the competition, however she has grown on me since the swap. Her and Sierra are doing so good this season. I like the alliance of Brad, Hali, Sierra and Tai.

[VanessaFeltz.]

“Vote Early, Vote Often”

oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

Hali Varner Aubry Sandra Michaela all going back to tribal again?

[Daniel-X]

LOVED that episode. Bye JT xo

Also as a sidenote idk why but I just can't get on the Debbie love-train, she just seems a bit false to me.

[JerseyWins]

Random thought, I reeeally hope Sarah becomes the Tony that this season is missing (although no one can replicate Cagayan). I'm finding her very entertaining though every time she gets air time. :clap1:

[reece(:]

Tony </3

[reece(:]

Secret Scene: Tai saves the day
http://d.pr/v/sIcO

J.T. The Day After
http://d.pr/v/T6KI

Andrea addresses Malcolm's departure
http://d.pr/v/ZDVS

Aubry speaks on the sugar
http://d.pr/v/KhWC

Cirie wants Tai/Sierra (Old Nuku) gone
http://d.pr/v/41RM

Debbie speaks on Brad's dictatorship (and her civil air patrol job and Monte Christo :joker:)
http://d.pr/v/6w4Z

Varner recaps peanut butter reward :joker:
http://d.pr/v/HszT

Michaela learning from Sandra
http://d.pr/v/aIF1

Sandra talks sugar
http://d.pr/v/BMHT

[reece(:]

and can we not

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[Calderyon]

Best winner ever returning. :clap1:

[MB.]

I didn't even realise Richard Hatch/Tina/Vecepia/Jenna/Danni/Aras/Todd/Natalie White/Sophie/Natalie Anderson/Michele (delete as appropriate) was coming back

[MB.]

Although that's suggesting that the greatest winner of all time isn't still playing on this season

[Braden]

Guess who's watching live again:

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[Calderyon]

Good to see Debbie in a bad spot.

[Calderyon]

Odd ball shuffle, but good to see Sandra in a minority alliance. Feel sorry for Varner though.

[Braden]

Andrea wanting to get rid of Tai :love:

[Calderyon]

4th idol for Tai? Or is it 3? I don´t know anymore.

So Tai has 2 idols now.

[Braden]

I'm sick to death of Tai and idols.

[Calderyon]

I would laugh if Tai idoled both Sandra and Cirie out of the game.

Well maybe not Cirie, she has been more tolerable this time.

[Jack_]

Two idols :joker:

[Calderyon]

John Cochran?

Wasn´t it supposed to be Rob?

[Jack_]

'This is the tribe of Debbie' screaming

[Calderyon]

Somewhere Macie´s blood pressure is rising to dangerous levels.

[Braden]

Lmfao at this moment between Cochran and Debbie.

I love her :love:

[Calderyon]

Obviously it´s the extra vote option. Even Debbie would choose it.

[Braden]

Debbie's winner edit begins.

[Calderyon]

Boot edit more like. Not tonight though.

[Calderyon]

This is strongly leading to a Zeke boot. Or Tai going with two idols in his pocket.

[Calderyon]

Shut the hell up with the Queen talk, Sondra.

[DouglasS]

I think Sandra's gunna go...

[Calderyon]

Mana won. Meaning Sandra or Jeff are in danger.

Is this finally the night it happens?

An event that has been for over 90 days in the making?

Will not believe until i see it happen.

[Calderyon]

People are going to lose their marbles if Zeke is going to end up taking out Sandra.

[Calderyon]

I like Tai, but he is stupid.

If he goes tonight, he has nobody to blame but himself. As it usually is tbh.

[Calderyon]

Tai is going to save Sandra with an idol. Good lord.

[Braden]

The chaotic whispering ensues :love:

[Calderyon]

Good lord how dumb Tai is. He´s going with 2 idols with his pocket.

James thanks you, Tai.

[Calderyon]

Oh my god!


Finally!!!!!!

YEEEEES!!!!

After 94 days the Queen is finally dead! (game wise)

[Braden]

I'm somewhat tearing up.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Somewhere Macie´s blood pressure is rising to dangerous levels.

why is that hun......x

[Calderyon]

I cannot believe that actually happened. Definitely a re-watch of that needed.

[Jack_]

It was inevitable, really.

The applause was a nice touch :love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm somewhat tearing up.

lmao same <3 god save THE QUEEN #adios

[Calderyon]

why is that hun......x

Cause John Cochran was in the show tonight.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Cause John Cochran was in the show tonight.

I don't mind Cochran actually!!

[Calderyon]

^ Really?

I thought you hated him.

[Braden]

My feelings towards Tai are constantly back and forth. The fact that he is so easy to manipulate is the best and worst thing about him.

[Calderyon]

Tai is now the most powerful and most random/wildcard person left in the game.

[JerseyWins]

Watched live for the first time in a few weeks due to my class being cancelled and it wasn't worth it to see ANOTHER terrible boot. :fist: Although I was multi-tasking and idk if that affected anything but I thought this episode was boring regardless of the boot (unfortunately most episodes this season have been except for maybe last week and the Tony vs. Sandra episode :/).

Weirdly the TC's have been pretty great this season and as I've mentioned before I rarely care for those.


Lol @ how many idols Tai has found in 2 seasons. He's going for that record. :joker:

[VanessaFeltz.]

The sad thing is that i actually woke up from my sleep when sandra was getting voted out on tv.

I will close off my facebook for a week or i will attack 10 100 or 1k casual fans lmaoo

[Calderyon]

Tai only needs to find one more idol and he is holding the record himself.

[reece(:]

With Sandra gone, this season takes another huge blow.

Time for Cirie to step it up for the 2nd half of the season.

[JerseyWins]

With Sandra gone, this season takes another huge blow.

Time for Cirie to step it up for the 2nd half of the season.
https://realityramblingscom.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/cirie02.png?w=340&h=211

[Headie]

Sandra had a good run </3 She's still the queen of Survivor!

Perched for Cirie, Michaela and Debbie to fill Sandra's void!

(Also slay at Cirie being the only one who's not been to tribal council yet. If she can stay immune til merge then she'll probes go far as she's not an individual immunity comp threat)

[Braden]

I'm cackling at Janelle's over-reaction:

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[Braden]

It gets better:

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[Calderyon]

This season was worth seeing and in top 10 probably for last night alone. Can´t believe it actually happened.

[Natalie.]

Forgot Sarah was there

[Calderyon]

Constantly forgetting that there is a Sarah named survivor in the game.

[JerseyWins]

^
^^
Why? She's been an UTR highlight for at least the past few episodes. :clap1:

[VanessaFeltz.]

I'm cackling at Janelle's over-reaction:

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my thoughts exactly

[MB.]

Debbie's Exile Experience <3

Also, I knew getting two UTR1 episodes of Zeke in a row was too good to be true. Also also, I'm spoiled and even I got my hopes up during that tribal...

[MB.]

In other news, daytime Tribal Council sighting alert (feat. Cochran):

http://i.imgur.com/LLkQj86.png

[reece(:]

Lmao this Secret scene ending with Sandra cackling

http://d.pr/v/4BX4

[MB.]

I've just realised that Cochran had more confessionals this episode than Cirie, Michaela, Hali and Sierra combined

You're welcome

[LemonJam]

God Sandra is incredible. She did so well and the ****ing tribe switch just had to shorten her time.

Thank God Tai is still in the season otherwise I could see it going downhill fast. Older man who acquires too much power and utilizes it horribly is such a great archetype :love:

[VanessaFeltz.]

In other news, daytime Tribal Council sighting alert (feat. Cochran):

http://i.imgur.com/LLkQj86.png

That would be cool

[JerseyWins]

God Sandra is incredible. She did so well and the ****ing tribe switch just had to shorten her time.

Thank God Tai is still in the season otherwise I could see it going downhill fast. Older man who acquires too much power and utilizes it horribly is such a great archetype :love:
This and this

It's amazing that Sandra managed to make it this long as a two time winner and only got booted by another tribe swap happening. I'm sure she would've had a lot of trouble after the merge though just because how can they let her get to the end a third time... but who knows, it's Sandra. :joker:

[SoBig]

I hope this season doesn't start sucking. All the big time players are getting picked off.

[JerseyWins]

Yeah the only non-big player to get out so far is Caleb.

I still like plenty of the cast but on Survivor name recognition this cast has dulled itself down A LOT after these boots.

[reece(:]

Ew apparently Nuku threw the challenge :omgno:

[DouglasS]

Yeah the only non-big player to get out so far is Caleb.

I still like plenty of the cast but on Survivor name recognition this cast has dulled itself down A LOT after these boots.

True.

Hali/Brad/Sarah/Sierra/Zeke/Michaela/Jeff/Troyzan just cannot be classed as gamechangers or big players, while they've all stayed in [I do like some of them, but they either didn't make it far at all in their seasons or just lacked personality in their game.] -- We have only lost 1 of these types of players; being Caleb

Then there is the middle of the roaders

Andrea/Debbie/Tai - we haven't lost any of these people.


I'd say the only 'big players/gamechangers' remaining are

Ozzy, Cirie and possibly Aubry [although shes so recent idk, but she had a strong edit and people view her as one of the strongest players] --- Meanwhile we have lost Sandra, JT, Malcolm, Tony and Ciera from the 'actual gamechangers'

[reece(:]

EMOTIONS RUN HIGH WHEN THE GAME BEGINS TO TAKE A TOLL ON ONE TRIBE, ON “SURVIVOR,” WEDNESDAY, APRIL 12

“What Happened on Exile, Stays on Exile” – Emotions run high when the game begins to take a toll on one tribe, and castaways try to pull their way to safety at a physical immunity challenge.

[MB.]

It's rumoured that

Varner outs Zeke as trans this episode and things get pretty ugly... but I'd take that with a pinch of salt

[reece(:]

Not more Z*** focus

[VanessaFeltz.]

It's rumoured that

Varner outs Zeke as trans this episode and things get pretty ugly... but I'd take that with a pinch of salt

omg

Why would he do that, it makes no sense strategicly?

[Marc]

Sandra is brilliant this season - i don't even care if she's booted next. It's just pure entertainment from her

Oops

[Marc]

It was inevitable, really.

The applause was a nice touch :love:

Yeah it was :)

[Headie]

It's rumoured that

Varner outs Zeke as trans this episode and things get pretty ugly... but I'd take that with a pinch of salt

Didn't Zeke being trans only get leaked when S33 was airing?
Weren't Michaela and Zeke unknown to the rest of the S34 cast anyway as it was filmed before 33 aired?

Sounds like a BS rumour tbh but if true it'll be interesting to watch

[EspeonBB]

I've just caught up on the last few episodes and I'm actually really enjoying this season so far, and I really wasn't expecting to after Cambodia and Millennials vs Gen X. The JT boot episode in particular was one of my favourite episodes ever (Sandra stealing sugar :love: Michaela's iconic mug :love: Debbie's meltdown :love:)

I was originally sad that Sandra went but I guess it was always going to happen at one point. I'm just glad we got 5 episodes of her and she reaffirmed her place as Queen of Survivor & Reality TV. And despite the star of the season going there's still a lot of people left that I like (Michaela, Varner, Cirie, I'm even enjoying Brad which I never thought I would). Hope Zeke goes soon though

[JerseyWins]

This season has NOT been very good. MvGx was even better at this point and that season didn't really pick up until later on so unless this season has a strong finish it's not even better than MvGx.

The only two "good" episodes have been Sandra vs. Tony & the JT boot episode... and the JT episode is overrated on here, it didn't pick up until like the second half. Then there was just that Malcolm boot TC (the actual episode until then was a snooze though). Oh and the boot order for this season is trash.

[reece(:]

The best thing about this season have been the TCs, but that's been down to Sandra - so who knows where it will go now.

[EspeonBB]

Tbh my enjoyment this season has mainly been because of Sandra but I think there's still a solid amount of good people left so the season won't dry up after her elimination

[reece(:]

I'm also thankful they gave Sandra that edit, because she's been more visible this season than both of her past two combined and she's 6th boot :joker: <3

[reece(:]

Welp at Varner's twitter feed, it's inevitable something messy happens tonight

I hope he doesn't come across awful though because he's been great so far </3

[Daniel-X]

I've really enjoyed this season but tbf I do enjoy MOST seasons of Survivor. I think this season has particularly maintained my interest though because of Sandra so it'll be interesting to see how it pans out now she's gone I think.

[reece(:]

https://www.moviefone.com/2017/04/12/survivor-fans-livid-zeke-varner-culturally-relevant-episode/amp/

:worry:

[Daniel-X]

:joker:

I want to hate Varner for it and take Zeke's side but I can't.

[reece(:]

Same

I'll wait to see it, I hope it's more a MESS than grimy but I know Varner is desperate to make that merge/jury

[EspeonBB]

Hopefully it's not an uncomfortable episode

[BBfanUSA]

Didn't Zeke being trans only get leaked when S33 was airing?
Weren't Michaela and Zeke unknown to the rest of the S34 cast anyway as it was filmed before 33 aired?

Sounds like a BS rumour tbh but if true it'll be interesting to watch

Daily Mail is saying Zeke is but I guess the ep will clear things up

[Headie]

I wanna know how Varner had access to this elusive info as we didn't even find out until after the first few episode of S33 aired, which happened long after Game Changers filming wrapped

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/42/93/a5/4293a5644b008633f33717a26aea0a0f.jpg

[EspeonBB]

I wanna know how Varner had access to this elusive info as we didn't even find out until after the first few episode of S33 aired, which happened long after Game Changers filming wrapped

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/42/93/a5/4293a5644b008633f33717a26aea0a0f.jpg

I originally thought that Zeke told Varner at some point (I think they were shown bonding in the last episode)

But then I'm sure they would've shown that so idk

[SoBig]

Anyone have a link for tonight's episode?

[reece(:]

Anyone have a link for tonight's episode?

watch.ustvnow.com Sign up with facebook/email

[reece(:]

On in 3

[Headie]

I'm ready for this mess of an episode

[Calderyon]

Excited to see what happens after last weeks best boot ever.

[reece(:]

Debbie making up stories :joker:

[Headie]

Debbie's maniacal lying begins <3

[Headie]

Oop a rare Cirie confessional!

[reece(:]

Miss Cirie is starving </3

[Calderyon]

Nuku wins the reward challenge. So i guess Mana wins the immunity thingy so that we get to see the controversy ending in Jeff getting voted out.

[Headie]

Another Monica mention <3

[Calderyon]

Brad just stole that moment from the others to himself. :laugh:

[Headie]

Brad's gonna win this season huh

[Headie]

ABC alliance of Aubry-Brad-Cirie?

[reece(:]

Hali and Michaela on the outs :(

[EspeonBB]

Monica being more relevant this season than Andrea :love:

[Headie]

Mess if you had said to me at the start of the season that Cirie would be in an alliance with the likes of Sierra, Brad and Troyzan I wouldn't have believed you :laugh:

[Headie]

I need to see a Cirie and Michaela interaction soon tho!

[Headie]

Game Changer Sarah coming for that win

[reece(:]

President is coming out of ha?

[Calderyon]

Sarah always looks like she is totally out of everything. Her personality, i mean.

[Calderyon]

Mana wins and Nuku loses, so Varner gone tonight, i guess.

[Headie]

Puzzle queen Hali!

[reece(:]

Comp queen Hali!

[reece(:]

Varner snatched from jury AGAIN? (tick)

[Headie]

Not Zeke acting like he would save Varner

[reece(:]

Varner is a cluster****

[Headie]

Welp Varner

[Headie]

MESS if he brings it up at tribal

[EspeonBB]

Sarah <3

[EspeonBB]

Varner serving mess already

[reece(:]

Hilarious that Tai went from full focus to not even a boot option

[Calderyon]

I really hate when Sarah Lacina talks. So monotone.

[Headie]

This is gonna be such a messy tribal

[EspeonBB]

Not tribal with 20 mins to go

We're in for a mess

[reece(:]

MESS at tribal with 20 mins to go

Serving episode 4

[reece(:]

Tribals this season <3 Serving SJDS with Jaclyn turning up every week to call bitches out :love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

oh god this is going to be a disaster, I'll be watching through my fingers

[reece(:]

Welp Varner looking evil

[Headie]

Varner to be blacklisted from Survivor after tonight?

[reece(:]

Not I'll hook us up

[reece(:]

MESS Varn

[reece(:]

How did Varner know this?

[Headie]

Yikes

[Headie]

How did Varner know this?

The scars on his chest I presume

[Headie]

Mess @ Sandra not being here for this tribal

[Headie]

I'm trying to work out the thought process behind Varner thinking ANY of this would work out successfully :think:

[reece(:]

This is a trainwreck

[EspeonBB]

Why did Varner think this would be a good idea

He's such an awful player

[Calderyon]

So i guess Zeke wins the season now. That´s OK though, since he is my sweepstake.

[Headie]

Maybe this explains why it was never mentioned/used as a storyline in S33

[reece(:]

Why did Varner think this would be a good idea

He's such an awful player
Him thinking Storm Trooper was enough to know

[Headie]

I'd self-evict out of embarassment

[Calderyon]

Just end the episode already.

[reece(:]

Not Varner vs Sarah

[EspeonBB]

Varner might as well leave now

[Calderyon]

Just do the vote already so i can go do the results on the sweepstake.

[reece(:]

No vote welp

[Headie]

Zeke is gonna get asked back so many times now by producers until he wins, he'll be the seasons fan fave

I wish I found him entertaining/liked his gameplay because I really want to root for him after this but I just know he's gonna continue playing the same game/align with the same people he already has and I just can't stan him because of this one storyline - idk if that's too harsh/unfair?

[Calderyon]

That being said that was a horrible game move from Varner. He should have just stayed with the first part and leave out the second part. He just helped Zeke win the game though.

1st time ever no-vote on a tribal?

[Calderyon]

Merge next time?

Hopefully someone i dislike goes next time.

[reece(:]

I still don't really like Zeke even though I do feel reeeaaalll sorry for him

What a way for Varner to go out though, his height of desperation to reach the jury reaches the biggest low as he is closer as ever. Grim yet poetic ending to his Survivor journey, and it's a shame about the last 20 mins tarnishing him as he was really good as Sandra's sidekick.

[Headie]

Just do the vote already so i can go do the results on the sweepstake.

Mess

[Headie]

If Jury starts next week then Cirie has made it to jury without even lighting her torch <3

[EspeonBB]

Yeah I felt bad for Zeke obviously and he handled it very well but I still don't like him

Sarah is now one of my faves though :love: Even before TC I laughed @ her saying 'I'm irate' in the most monotone voice

[Headie]

Sarah's speech about accepting diversity despite being from a small town was a howl considering she voted Trump :laugh:

[EspeonBB]

None of this would've happened if they booted Varner over the Queen last week :fist:

[Braden]

Oh god, that whole ordeal was an entire mess. I'll probably post my thoughts tomorrow, as I have quite a bit to say and don't know how to articulate it right now :p

[reece(:]

Apparently Varner was suicidal afterwards :worry:

[Headie]

I just realised MICHAELA MADE MERGE

https://68.media.tumblr.com/a2cc871bcce32ade26ed981f169ee136/tumblr_inline_oobpnwV8I41qf67xf_540.jpg

[Headie]

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[Braden]

Ugh, I feel so bad for him. He made a terrible mistake and is now going to be made an example of for the rest of his life.

[Calderyon]

I think next week Tai is going to use one or both of his idols, since it´s 7 vs 6 now potentially causing someone from the other side leaving.

[reece(:]

Andrea live now with Natalie A. and Brice

https://www.facebook.com/PeopleEWnetwork/videos/621281951403428/

[Calderyon]

Ugh, I feel so bad for him. He made a terrible mistake and is now going to be made an example of for the rest of his life.

Not to mention never getting an invite to be back.

[reece(:]

Legend Kristie has videoed in :clap1:

[Braden]

Jesus, that guy (Gordon?) is annoying.

[Headie]

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We NEED Audrey on Survivor

[reece(:]

Jesus, that guy (Gordon?) is annoying.
Dalton? He serves Spencer

[reece(:]

Andrea confirmed a two hour ep of Survivor next week (double)?

[Headie]

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Sandra and Natalie A F2 confirmed for Survivor: Winners Edition

[reece(:]

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Okay, so clearly a lot to unpack here with Jeff Varner outing Zeke as trans on national television. Let’s start with your initial reaction when Jeff said that at Tribal Council.
JEFF PROBST: I’m pretty sure my reaction was the same as viewers watching at home. I saw Jeff Varner turn to Zeke and make what was essentially a statement — vaguely disguised as a question: “Why haven’t you told anyone here you’re transgender?” On one hand, it was such a tiny moment… so simple and quiet… that I wasn’t certain I heard what I heard. My brain had to rewind and play it back. And if you watch the reaction at Tribal, Zeke’s tribemates seemed to go thru the same moment. They heard it… but had to process it… and then once it landed they responded quite vocally. And while they were sharing their feelings with Varner, I was still running it in my head. This… just… happened.

It seems everyone on the tribe — Tai, Andrea, Ozzy, Debbie, Sarah — had their moment of telling Jeff in very strong language that what he did was completely unacceptable. What did you make of what I would describe as their unified disgust at what had happened?
In 34 seasons of Survivor, I have rarely, if ever, personally commented on what is said or done in the game. But this is a unique situation that falls outside the normal boundaries. I cannot imagine anyone thinking what was done to Zeke was okay on any level, under any circumstances, and certainly not simply because there was a million dollars on the line. I think the response from the tribe, as it so often does, mirrors what the vast majority of society will feel. You just don’t do that to someone.


Witnessing that moment was so powerful because from my seat at Tribal, I could see it all. Varner was in the middle being attacked by angry tribemates while Zeke sat in the corner, outside of the action in what appeared to be a mild state of shock. It was one of the most surreal moments I’ve ever encountered on the show. From the outside, it looked and sounded like a regular Tribal Council but in reality, it was one of the most raw and painful studies of human behavior that has ever happened on Survivor.

Zeke was so composed in his response to what Jeff Varner did. How impressed were you with his reaction?
We knew Zeke was a tremendous storyteller with an amazing ability to take a specific moment from the game or life and give it a universal perspective. That’s why we asked him back to play a second time. And yet I was still blown away by how he handled the entire situation. It was as if he had been preparing for this absolutely unpredictable, completely public, and incredibly vulnerable moment for his entire life. His composure was astounding. And when he connected the entire event to the word metamorphosis, I distinctly remember thinking — how in the world did you just do that?

I was also very impressed with the compassion Zeke showed Varner. I wonder if some people will say he shouldn’t have hugged him or shouldn’t have forgiven him. But as a viewer to that moment, I found his ability to still find some level of humanity for someone who had just injured him so severely, maybe his crowning moment.

And there is another moment that I hope was as inspiring for others as it was for me, and that was when Sarah told Zeke she was glad she got to know Zeke for who Zeke is and would never see him any other way. That moment — when a police officer from a conservative Midwest background without much exposure to the “gay and lesbian and transgender world” realized her own growth, her own metamorphosis, it completed the circle. This is how change and acceptance happens.


Watch PEN Fan Forum: Survivor, on the new PEOPLE/Entertainment Weekly Network (PEN) here, or download the free app on your Smart TV, mobile and web devices. And check out an exclusive deleted scene at the top of this post.

When you spoke with Zeke before his first season during the interview process, did the subject ever come up in terms of whether he planned to tell players he was trans and how he would handle it if someone brought it up?
My story with Zeke goes like this. I met Zeke in casting and loved him. I still have my original notes from that meeting. He was very engaging, gifted in his ability to manipulate with his words, and he wore this crazy Hawaiian shirt and had poofy hair. We knew we were doing Millennials vs. Gen X as a theme and we wanted him on the Millennials tribe immediately. It wasn’t until after he left that I was told he was transgender. From that point forward we agreed that if his story was to be told, he would be the one to decide when, where, and how.

As for someone else bringing it up, Zeke was fully aware someone might suspect it or bring it up and he said, “I will deal with it as it arises.” And I have to add it was never a question of Zeke being worried his story would come out. ,Zeke is a massive Survivor fan and his point with us was very clear — he wanted to be seen as a Survivor player. Not the first transgender Survivor player. I really respected that distinction and I understood it.

The tribe was clearly all shaken by this incident. How were you after Tribal Council finished?
I don’t really remember a lot about my own feelings in the moments after Tribal. I remember feeling that Zeke seemed very centered when he left Tribal, despite what he had gone through and I believed his tribemates would help him work through things back at camp. But we were in touch with the producer on the beach that night to just ensure everything was going okay.


And then the other concern was Jeff Varner. Although I do not condone on any level what Varner did, I was still aware that he was without any of his support group of family and friends. He would be returning to Ponderosa, where voted out contestants go, after making one of the worst decisions of his life. Fortunately, we have a full-time psychologist on staff who knows all of the contestants and is there to help them through any of the many things that come up on Survivor. I think those sessions in the days after the event helped Varner as he tried to make sense of everything.

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Have you spoken to Jeff Varner at all since this incident and do you think he is genuinely mortified by what he did?
I spoke with Varner the day after it happened and I think he was still in a bit of shock. It was clear he was upset and the realization of it all was still washing over him. I do believe he wishes he could take the entire event back. I hope Varner is able to take this moment and turn it into something positive. People make mistakes. Granted this happens to be a pretty severe one, but as you saw even with Zeke — there is hope that something good can come from this. That would be my wish… that Varner will seize this as an opportunity to be a catalyst for positive change by owning his mistake and moving forward in a new direction.

Finally, we always take a sneak peek at what’s coming up. I know we have a merge on the horizon. And I have to imagine the Nuku tribe will still be decompressing from what just happened.
I’m going to break tradition tonight and let the events of this very special episode breathe for a moment. But Survivor will be back next week… and someone will be voted out. The game continues.


http://ew.com/tv/2017/04/12/survivor-jeff-probst-zeke-transgender-jeff-varner/

[JerseyWins]

Very boring episode, ok tribal council (but uncomfortable & still not the most enjoyable to watch).

Varner saying that was definitely uncalled for. Like they were saying, it's Zeke's right to mention being transgender or not and it wasn't right to throw that question/statement at Zeke like that. But as I do a lot, I'm going to come to the "bad guy's" defense. :joker: I think he felt really bad about it (first instinct was to defend himself but then I think he genuinely realized his mistake) and what he did definitely didn't seem like there was malicious intent to it, he wasn't attacking Zeke as a person or anything, he just didn't realize the severity/impact of mentioning it. The whole thing was a bit of an over-exaggeration to a mistake Varner made IMO - I feel like Sarah & even Jeff Probst went on too strong against Varner and maybe that's just because I felt like they were prolonging the issue idk. I honestly feel the worst for Varner after all that though especially with it being his final moment on the show. People say stupid things sometimes... I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt. Jeff is still an ok guy from what I can tell and I enjoyed him this season (again). He has been a mess for 3 seasons and this is probably why he's gone pre-merge all 3 times... he doesn't think about what he's saying before he speaks. :joker: And I love characters like that tbh; I probably like characters that have said/done worse.

Zeke took it well though and made a great example out of the whole situation. :clap1:

And lol (but kinda annoying) @ Sarah using the situation to talk about herself and how much she's changed as an accepting person. :joker: It's only kinda funny just because it fits right up her alley but still a bit off-putting at the same time. I like her nonetheless but she didn't need to turn this into a transgender/gay issue or whatever she was getting at with her example about herself. The issue was just that Varner exposed Zeke in an uncomfortable situation and Zeke has the right/privacy to do that himself if/when he wants to do so. It was all just a little too much painting Varner as a malicious person for me. He does deserve some criticism for his action but not that much backlash from everyone (and I'm sure the backlash he's probably getting on social media too).

I'll still be a Jeff Varner fan personally. :idc:

[JerseyWins]

I just watched the TC again:

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Honestly, Varner is even hilarious in this in a way... he looks like a madman with this desperate plea and his reactions to the backlash at first. :joker:

Forgot to mention... after the initial reactions calmed down and everyone started talking about it one by one, I really liked what Tai said. :clap1:

Also, on second watch I guess there was a relevant point Sarah was making in the end so it doesn't come across as off-putting as much. I think the main thing was I didn't like how harsh she was on Jeff and then focused too much on accepting Zeke but I guess that was just her own view on it. It's more positive than I thought and I guess it's more related to the discussion than I originally thought too.

[VanessaFeltz.]

I think Varner knew it because some superfans really digged into information during last season, i knew it as well but wow.

[Marc]

Messy. But I do hope Zeke doesn't win because of this. It's a game at the end of the day and the best player should win.

[reece(:]

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[Braden]

Unpopular opinion: I actually felt more sorry for Varner than Zeke throughout that ordeal at tribal council.

Regardless, what he did was wrong. However, I find the reaction of most of the others to be disingenuous, Jeff Probst included. Survivor has explicitly capitalised on Zeke's story, though it could be argued that they were given no choice. I find it astounding that someone can sit there and say that they're cool with being outed (when they obviously weren't), and then bask in the glory. I was dumbfounded by how Zeke even took the opportunity to take the moment and apply it to the game (I can't remember what he said verbatim, but I found it to be apathetic—I don't think his words should be heralded the way they are, honestly).

I was shocked at the sheer audacity of Varner, and my jaw literally dropped when he outed Zeke. It still annoyed me how his tribe suddenly became LGBT activists and took the moral high-ground. I doubt most of those people would stick up for someone like Zeke in the real world. The OTT reaction from Andrea was cringe-worthy if I'm being completely honest. The only part I genuinely liked was when Zeke said something along the lines of:

"I fear being seen as Zeke—the player who is trans, I want to be known as Zeke—the Survivor player"

To which Debbie responded with: "You are."

The reason I feel more bad for Varner is because I feel that this may affect his life, based on a bad decision he made on a TV show. People have been glorified for bad behaviour in the past on this show, whether it can be argued that they're on the same scale; Russell Hantz has won the Fan Favourite Award twice (I hate to bring him up, but I personally find him to be an example of the fans double standards...He's a genuinely ****ty human being). Also, I find it rich that it took Survivor 33 seasons to eventually cast a trans person, to then laud Zeke with this edit (though production probably knew what Varner was going to do) even though they didn't bother to provide the trans community with representation for over ten years—better late than never, I suppose.

Idk, I found the matter really odd. I'm glad that the trans community are receiving more respect as a result, but I think this particular instance saw most people capitalise on the issue for self-gain, which is kind of icky to me.

[Braden]

Yes, I thought 'metamorphosis' was a strange choice of word, too. I thought so before the incident occurred.

[Calderyon]

I don´t usually agree with Corinne (probably because of my deep dislike), but she is on point with this one.

[reece(:]

Welp at Zeke's account

Playing with rookies was one thing, but playing alongside my Survivor heroes in a season called Survivor: Game Changers was quite another. It was like waking up in Westeros, Lord Zeke of the Mustache Lands, fighting to claim the Iron Throne. But instead of flying dragons with Daenerys Targaryen, Mother of Dragons, I trailed Ozzy, Master of Spear Fishing, out to the reef, dove down and watched him catch fish. Tai, the Chicken Whisperer, and I killed three chickens together. Debbie, the Woman with an Infinite Number of Jobs, told me about all of her jobs.

I’d been charmed by my cast mates’ quirks and touched by their stories. There’s no one whose journey resonated with me more than former local network news anchor Jeff Varner. Walking into the season, his story was that he’d played twice and never made the jury, the Survivor equivalent of making the playoffs. This was Varner’s third shot and likely his last. If he didn’t make the jury, he’d forever be remembered as the only three-time player to never do so.

To his credit, Varner received some bad breaks during his first two seasons, and in Game Changers, bad luck befell him once again. The numbers were not in his favor, but they were in mine, and I was excited to be on a tribe with him. I wanted the jury for him. I wanted to be the guy who made it happen.

Varner and I connected quickly. Events in his life back home drew him to seek an understanding of gay people’s place in Christianity. I studied religion in college, focusing specifically on LGBTQ people and the Bible. Though I’m not particularly religious, I feel passionately that people of faith should not be denied religious ritual or spiritual community because of their sexual orientation or gender identity, and shared what I’d learned with Varner over long conversations on the beach.

I saw a pain, a brokenness in his eyes that felt all too familiar — a longing for the spotlight, but a desire to remain unseen. Though Varner has been openly gay for many years, he chose not to discuss his sexual orientation during his first two stints on the show. Beyond his charm and charisma, I thought I recognized a deep-seated insecurity and self-loathing, a glimpse at who I could become were I not careful.

All Varner had to do was make it until tomorrow and he’d get his jury seat. But he wasn’t going to. Our tribe proved unable to unscramble a word, metamorphosis, losing the Immunity Challenge and sending us to Tribal Council. Everyone’s best move was unquestionably to get rid of Varner.

My heart broke for him. I mulled over all the scenarios to save him, but each required me to significantly jeopardize my position. As much as I felt for the man, I wasn’t giving up my dream for his.

You never want a player to know they’re going home, because they might get desperate and go nuclear, douse the fire or pour out the rice. But my heart overrode my head when I sat down with him that afternoon. I told him he was going home. I thought he deserved to know it would be his last day on the beach.

Tribal Council throws the question of life and death into stark relief. One member of the tribe must be sacrificed each visit. Players ask each other: which one of us do we kill tonight? Fire, the flame of your torch, represents your life. When Probst snuffs that flame, your life is over. You exit to the left, into the darkness, what I called The Abyss. The rest of the tribe exits to the right, back to camp with a renewed lease on life.

Clearly, the stakes are not actually life and death. We’re a group of adults playing a very expensive game of make believe. But, despite all its deprivations, your Survivor life can be superior to your regular life.

I remember walking into Tribal Council that night. I remember the smell of the kerosene in our torches. I remember the smug smirk on his face and the gleam in his eye when he turned to me and snarled, “Why haven’t you told anyone that you’re transgender?”

The lights magnified in brightness. The cameras, though 30 feet away, suddenly felt inches from my face. All sound faded. Something primal deep inside me screamed: run. I lost control of my body, my legs bounced up and down uncontrollably, willing me to flee, but the rest of me sat dead as stone. To my left was The Abyss. I could’ve made a clean break for it, but I knew there was no running from what had happened. Cameras would follow me, if not that night, then eventually. Running was not an option. So I sat blank, almost in a trance, unaware of what happened around me, trying to form a plan.

Survivor had spun out of control. That’s the risk you take when you dance in the ethical borderlands, where you’ll betray a friend, swear on your mother, and lie to a priest all before you eat whatever meager crumbs count as breakfast. In Survivor, much is permissible which is typically objectionable, but there are limits, as there should be on a family-friendly reality show on network television.

It’s one thing to lie about someone sneaking off at night to search for hidden advantages. It is quite another to incense bigotry toward a marginalized minority.

Responsibility fell upon my shoulders to right the ship that had blown perilously far off course. I could let this be one of the worst moments of my life or one of the greatest. If I set the tone, everyone would follow. The power was in my hands.

I told myself, “Dude, you resolved to never stop playing. Buck up and make this OK.”

I am forever grateful that Probst gave me time to collect myself. Were I in the hands of a lesser leader, I’m sure questions would’ve been peppered my way before I was ready to receive them. I could not have responded in the manner in which I did had he not held the wheel while I got my bearings.

I tuned back in to the conversation and found chaos — tears, yelling, anger, but mostly confusion. I needed to calm everyone down. My chance to re-enter appeared — an opportunity to provide clarification. I spoke as calmly as I possibly could. Each word came slowly. Typically, my brain races far ahead of my ability to form words, but then it trudged, carefully selecting its path. My right leg settled down, but my left still jittered.

I took solace in my tribemates. They defended me passionately. Even Probst, the most neutral of arbiters, had my back. My left leg settled, and with it the group. Tears dried, voices lowered, and the attention turned to me to make sense of what happened. I didn’t know what to say.

Months before I plotted how I’d respond in case of such a disaster scenario, but those words were written a lifetime ago and nowhere in mind. I groped for direction, talking to kill time. Then, a single word appeared, the word I couldn’t find earlier in the day, the word that encapsulated my 50-plus days on the island: metamorphosis. Everything clicked. I sat up straight. My mind revved back up to full speed. As I spoke, l locked eyes with Probst, and he nodded along with me, as if to say, “Yes, yes, you’ve got it.” The ship was out of rough waters and back into placid seas.

I knew that Varner’s actions, though targeted at me, had nothing to do with me and everything to do with him. His terrible utterances were not an effect of my actions, but a reflection of his own personal maladies.

But in calling me deceptive, Varner invoked one of the most odious stereotypes of transgender people, a stereotype that is often used as an excuse for violence and even murder. In proclaiming “Zeke is not the guy you think he is” and that “there is deception on levels y’all don’t understand,” Varner is saying that I’m not really a man and that simply living as my authentic self is a nefarious trick. In reality, by being Zeke the dude, I am being my most honest self — as is every other transgender person going about their daily lives.

I don’t believe Varner hates trans people, just as I don’t believe conservative politicians who attack trans people actually care where we use the bathroom. For both, trans people make easy targets for those looking to invoke prejudice in order to win votes. Thankfully, my tribemates rebuffed his hateful tactics. After 18 days starving and competing with me, they knew exactly the man I am, and after that Tribal Council, we all knew exactly the man Varner is.


I looked to Varner, now the one hunched and quivering, and contemplated the backlash he would face. When he said what he said, he changed both of our lives forever. When he pulled me in for a hug, I felt compelled to reciprocate, both as a sign that I was willing to forgive him and that the shots he had fired missed.

But, if we’re being perfectly honest with one another, I’ve struggled with that forgiveness in the months following. I can’t foresee us sipping martinis together in Fire Island. While I can reconcile the personal slight of him outing me, I continue to be troubled by his willingness to deploy such a dangerous stereotype on a global platform.

But forgiveness does not require friendship. Forgiveness does not require forgetting or excusing his actions. Forgiveness requires hope. Hope that he understands the injury he caused and does not inflict it upon others. Hope that whatever torments his soul will plague him no more. I have hope for Jeff Varner. I just choose to hope from afar, thank you very much.

To adventure is to invite hazard into your life. The thrill of adventure comes from accepting this risk, and the reward from confronting whatever might be thrown at you. But you cannot control the hazards you face, be they repeated misfortune or the harmful actions of others. You can only control how you respond. It’s up to you to decide whether the hazard will define you or you will define the hazard.

At the conclusion of Tribal, Jeff Varner’s torch was snuffed. He walked into the darkness, and the rest of us headed back to camp.

There’s no special dispensation for a traumatic Tribal. No chocolate chip cookies. No phone call home. Just the dirt and the hunger and the honor of another day playing the world’s greatest game.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/survivor-zeke-smith-outed-as-transgender-guest-column-991514?platform=hootsuite

[reece(:]

Queens

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[Braden]

Queen Debbie :love:

I hope this incident (although it won't on a mass scale) is insightful to casual viewers in terms of what is good and what is bad in this game. Like, Debbie is harmless but receives such horrendous vitriol on social media.

[reece(:]

And here's Andrea's show for anyone that missed

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[reece(:]

I agree completely with Brian Corridan

[reece(:]

Also, what would have happened if Varner had an idol?

[Braden]

Natalie saying that she'd out someone at tribal for having an affair :joker:

[Calderyon]

Also, what would have happened if Varner had an idol?

Most likely none or the second part of last night would´ve happened, had he had an idol. He would´ve just used it and got rid of Ozzy.

[Braden]

Yeah, the sheer desperation was enough to tell that he didn't have an idol. It's a good point though—I personally think they should've voted.

[Calderyon]

I think they just wanted a Survivor first.

[DouglasS]

lol if Jeff Vaner had an idol and then voted for Zeke

[Braden]

lol if Jeff Vaner had an idol and then voted for Zeke

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[Headie]

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[Calderyon]

They would be crazy to not get rid of Michaela early after the merge.

[starry]

Of course it was already out there that Zeke was transgender by the time this was filmed anyway, but I guess this was shot before the previous season was aired? It's very unlikely that a secret like that wouldn't get out if someone is on a high profile reality show. No point pretending otherwise, but it makes for more drama if they do I guess. The main point is that Zeke keeping quiet about it then was his choice and didn't represent him being even more deceptive in the game. He did bond with Varner earlier in the game, did Zeke tell Varner about this whole thing when they made their alliance?

I always wanted Ozzy to stay over Varner anyway, so good result all round. The 'metamorphosis' theme is something that will send some Americans into ecstasy, I really hope we don't have that hammered at us.

[Calderyon]

When you take last week and this week into account editwise, i think it´s safe to say that Zeke will make to at least final 5 or 4.

[reece(:]

Varner the Day After

http://d.pr/v/lp0z

[reece(:]

Varner assumed Zeke had came out publicly in Milennials vs Gen X and was hiding it this season for strategic reason. He thought he was pulling a Russell Hantz, welp

[Macie Lightfoot]

When you take last week and this week into account editwise, i think it´s safe to say that Zeke will make to at least final 5 or 4.

considering he didn't exist until last week, no.

[reece(:]

Secret Scene

http://d.pr/v/7ysJ

[DouglasS]

I've heard the final 6 are; beware spoilers -- might not be true, but rumours



Sarah
Brad
Troyzan
Aubry
Tai
Cirie

With a majority alliance of Brad/Troyzan/Sierra/Aubry/Cirie - the five he hinted at trusting in last episode running the post merge game. Sierra potentially is idoled out idk

[reece(:]

Zeke's confessional

http://d.pr/v/fRcg

[reece(:]

Gordon Holmes: There are two stories that are going to come out of last night. Zeke has been outted as transgender and now he has to go about his life with that information known to the public. I feel like that story is being told. Zeke himself penned a piece for The Hollywood Reporter. The other is about a guy who supports the LGBT community who made a mistake that could harm the LGBT community. What’s it been like to live with what happened for so long?
Jeff Varner: It’s been ten months of hell. I have dug through all kinds of stuff. A couple of different therapists. Been involved with many different LGBT groups. I’m heading in a direction that I can’t wait to tell you about as we go forward, but this morning is not about me. This morning is about Zeke and transgender people and what I have done. And I am profoundly and profusely sorry. I have no excuses. I can’t sit here and make one. I made a massive mistake. I own it 1000%. I know that I hurt Zeke. I know that I hurt those who love him. I know that when we’re in pain and we’re in fear, we’re dangerous and we do the wrong things and we say the wrong things.

Holmes: Have you spoken with Zeke since that night?
Varner: We’ve spoken several times over the last few months. He continues to forgive me. He just an amazing human. I’m amazed at that forgiveness. But, I also know that watching that had to have been doubly traumatic as it was for me. And it’s put him in a different place. I think he’s calling me a bigot today. He’s calling me full of hate today. That is the opposite of who I am. I respect him. I deserve it. If he wants to take swings at me, I’m the one to hand him the bat. I give him every inch of every room to react how he needs to react. I respect him for that. I deserve it. And I’m sure that it’s frustrating for the transgender community that I’m the one out here talking about this today. We need trans voices. I hate that we don’t have more trans voices out here talking about this situation. We’ve got to stop separating and dividing. Trans people are humans and we need to elevate their dignity and their voices and lift them up. We shouldn’t reduce them to things that objectify them and dehumanize them. They are not deceitful people, they’re just trying to live their truth…safely…

Note: At this point, Jeff starts to get very emotional.

Varner: I’m sorry.
Holmes: It’s OK.
Varner: They’re just trying to thrive, you know? And I’m just sick of the fact that I am part of what some people will use as a tool to further do this to them. It’s horrible. I assaulted Zeke that night, outting someone is assault. It robs them of so much. It stigmatizes them and it shames them. It forces them back in and that’s the opposite of what needs to happen. I’m devastated. I will forever be sorry and do…I’ll talk to you in the future about what I’m doing and where I’m headed…but today I just want to make sure that this is all about Zeke.

Holmes: I had some advance notice of what was going to happen last night. And I felt sick watching the lead up. But in the end, it felt like it was headed in a positive direction. Zeke said that his “Survivor” experience has made him strong enough to deal with this. The tribe supported him. He forgave you. Do you know why Zeke is feeling differently today?
Varner: This was us then and we’ve grown and moved past it. I’m not sure what caused him to shift his gear, but it’s OK. I support him. I don’t know that Zeke and I will ever be friends, but it’s important for me to have him know how much I care about him and people like him. I’ll spend the rest of my life doing whatever I can to make this right, because it’s wrong. It’s not in my character. It’s a game and nobody can truly understand what we’re going through. What that “Survivor” brain does to us. At the risk of sounding like I’m making excuses, because I’m not. There are no excuses. I don’t know where he is today or where his head is, I can only read what he’s writing. He’s wrong on a bunch of levels about who I am as a person. I knew Zeke for five days. We spoke probably an hour and a half total. He doesn’t know me. I hope that he one day will. I’ve heard from so many transgender people today who understand and are inviting me to be a part of their effort. I’m so grateful for that. I just love Zeke, I’m so profoundly sorry.

Holmes: It seems like all parties involved are dedicated to turning this into a vehicle for good. For bringing transgender issues to the forefront. And I know you don’t want to talk about you, but you’re a human being. The “Survivor” community reaches out to me. And yeah, there’s a lot of “(expletive deleted) Jeff Varner.” But, there’s also a lot of “How is Jeff today. I hope he’s alright.” You’ve been living with this for months. Now that it’s finally out there, does that help you move on now that you can more openly support these issues?
Varner: Yeah…I’m not ashamed to tell you that coming out of this I had thoughts of suicide. What I’d done is horrible. But when Zeke reached out to me and we were able to talk, that’s when I felt like the healing began. We both feel like we’re both victims on some level for many different reasons. Not being able to talk about it has been tough. Last night was an end in a lot of ways and a beginning in a lot of ways. There is a relief that it’s out there and I can start making amends publicly and start trying to help people. I forgot what you asked me. I’m a wreck. (Laughs)
Holmes: (Laughs) You got there.

Holmes: There was some confusion about how you knew Zeke was transgender. When we spoke in the pre-game interview, you said that you had noticed things about his physique that had led you to believe that he was transgender. Was there ever a point where Zeke opened up to you or was this based on your pre-game observations?
Varner: Not directly. He talked about all kinds of things that led me indirectly, not only that he was OK and out, I believed he was out. I had no idea that Zeke had not come out. Everything led to that. I don’t want to talk about how I knew, because in respect to Zeke, I don’t think that’s the right direction to go. When I said that out loud at Tribal, I was not 100% certain.

Holmes: Sarah is an example of someone who didn’t have much experience with the transgender community. She met a guy she liked and when she found out his story, it opened her eyes. Hopefully there are a lot of Sarahs in the audience.
Varner: I want to thank Sarah for that. That went a long way. Out of everyone who was at Tribal, she’s the one I’ve heard from the most. She’s been so supportive. She explained to me how this moment and preparing her family to watch it has changed their perception. She went out of her way to make me understand that no matter what Zeke and I are going through, this has been a positive thing for her family, it has to be for others. Ultimately, that is where this will go, but right now what’s important to me is that Zeke is safe and healthy and that he hears me when I say I am profoundly sorry. I didn’t come after him with malice. It wasn’t intended to be a commentary. I hate that the deception theme was there because it’s such a massive stigma that trans people deal with. People think they’re deceiving and dangerous and they’re not. These people are strong and courageous. All of these bathroom bills are horrible. They’re not about whether trans people can use the bathroom. They’re about whether trans people have the right to exist in public. There are so many people, especially here in North Carolina, our hateful General Assembly is trying to erase trans people from our society. I really want to do everything I can to stop that crap. I hope that this opens up the door for Zeke and I to do some great stuff.

Holmes: I know you don’t have to do exit press. I’d imagine this is the second worst day of your life. But I think you’re doing the right thing by using this platform to further transgender awareness.
Varner: I hope that any press that anybody puts out there is pro-trans and anti-outting. We’re both trying to make this a positive thing.

http://my.xfinity.com/blogs/tv/2017/04/13/survivor-castaway-jeff-assaulted-zeke-night-outting-someone-assault/

[VanessaFeltz.]

Fans are being very annoying right now acting like Varner is the WORST person on the planet and they are the nicest, sweetest people. Varner made a VERY BIG terrible mistake he shouldnt have and he is scarred as much as Zeke. People should take this as a learning experience not hinder people.

I was trying to understand Varner's thinking way and i wrote something like Varner hurt Zeke and someone responded me with a paragraph saying "He didnt hurt zeke HE CHANGED HIS LIFE" i understand and know that but like people are turning this into hate circlejerk to make themselves better at this point rather than learn from the mistakes and support Zeke.


It is so easy to sit there with amazing rights and amazing groups in America when in russia there is a detention camp to kill gay people and in middle east lgbt people basically have no rights and emotionally wrecked more than anyone in america so if you are so "good" and invested why dont you go there and fight for the people who actually need it.

[Braden]

This is probably an extreme comparison, but this situation is giving me flashbacks to CBB5's racism row.

[Calderyon]

considering he didn't exist until last week, no.

Maybe, maybe not.

It´s between Brad, Aubry, Tai or Debbie at the moment.

[VanessaFeltz.]

I think it is Brad to lose at this point.

And strategicly it would make more sense to cut Ozzy and keep Varner actually. Ozzy can go on an immunity run and Varner could bring Hali and Michaela in, giving them the majority. Sticking with orginal tribal lines cant last for long because there are 9 blue tribe members and 4 red tribe members, how long can they take out reds?

[JerseyWins]

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:joker: I love Corinne

lol if Jeff Vaner had an idol and then voted for Zeke
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