View Full Version : Survivor 34: Game Changers - Mamanuca Islands
reece(:
15-12-2016, 04:36 AM
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I don't believe there's an official thread for it? Here's the first interview:
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So explain the Game Changers theme and how you came upon that?
JEFF PROBST: Survivor is one of the few games in which the players themselves evolve the game based on how they play the game. Period. So when we’re producing the show, we’re reacting to what the players are asking for, and over the last few years, they’ve been asking to play more, so we’ve given them more twists, more opportunities. We’ve made it more fun and difficult to find idols. We’ve hidden them in various places. Things like that.
So when we were thinking about things that we hadn’t done yet, we have not celebrated the type of player that is willing to take a risk in order to change the game, and that can mean somebody who made a really big move, or that can mean somebody like Tony who changed the game with his aggressive play, and it paid off. It can also mean somebody who makes aggressive moves and it backfires. It doesn’t matter to us whether or not the move worked. It only matters whether you were willing to do something risky in order to further your game.
And when we put the 20 people together, we tried very hard to get a tapestry of all the different ways you could interpret that so that it wasn’t just big heavy-hitters coming out and slugging. There were also nuanced players. There were players that we felt were almost there, but hadn’t quite gotten there yet, but what we feel like we have is a group of people who are going to play, and there will be no people sitting back on their heels saying I’m not sure what to do, and the result was fascinating.
Fascinating in what way?
I anticipated a bloodbath out of the gate, and instead, it’s more like the movie Jaws. It felt very much like all 20 people were looking at each other saying: We know the shark is in the water. When’s it going to hit the boat? When’s it going to attack the boat? And so it has a very uneasy feeling in the beginning as people aren’t sure what to do, which is really interesting because, on the surface, you would think these are game players.
Of course, they know what to do, but what we didn’t anticipate is 20 of them said, yeah, I’m used to being one of only two or three game changers. Most of these players, on their season, were able to look around and say, there’s two or three people like me. Everybody else, you know, I can mess with. All of them were saying, in their initial interviews, “There are 19 other game changers out here, so they’re thinking just like I’m thinking,” Then that became, I’m not sure what to think.
You have a mix of winners and non-winners here, which you have done before. What was your thinking in terms of doing that?
I’m most impressed when winners say they will come back and play again, because the obvious burden they carry is they’ve already won the million dollars, and that makes them an easy target, and yet Sandra did it, and she won again. And Sandra is coming back for a third time! When we called her, she texted back so fast and said, “I don’t care what the theme is. I don’t care where you’re doing it. I’m in.” That is the personification of a Game Changer. Sandra doesn’t care. She doesn’t care what her reputation is. She doesn’t care that she might lose for the first time. This is a game she loves. She wants to play, and that is super exciting.
Tony played the most aggressive game anybody’s ever played and won. I thought for sure Tony would say I have nothing to gain by coming back. Tony was the same as Sandra. He couldn’t respond fast enough, and when we started making those calls, we knew we had a good group because nobody hesitated to say yes.
What about some of the non-winners that you all are revealing?
We also have Tai coming back, a guy that I think learned a lot the first time he played. He made moves. They weren’t always great moves, but he was making them, and the question now is did he mature his game at all in a way that he can go even further? We’re also bringing back one of the most popular players in the history of our show, Cirie — the first person that ever said, I finally got up off the couch and said why not? When Cirie played the first time, she was the most unlikely person to play Survivor. And now she’s become a legend, and you know, she’s a mentor. This woman knows the ins and outs of the game, much like Sandra, but hasn’t yet won.
And Ozzy’s coming back, because no matter how many times he plays, when I ask people on the street who are your favorite players, Ozzy is one of the first five names that comes up. There’s something about his spirit, the Jungle Boy in him, his ability to swim and do crazy things that people love, and yet, if you examine Ozzy’s game, his biggest Achilles heel is his gameplay. So you could argue he’s never made that many great strategic moves, and I would counter by saying but he’s trying every season. He tries things. He’s the guy that got himself sent to Redemption Island. Did it work in the end? Ultimately, no, but those are big risky moves.
And then we brought back Caleb, another example of how far we went to examine what a Game Changer is. You could argue Caleb wasn’t even in long enough to change the game, and I would argue that guy nearly gave up his life to change the game. If he isn’t a Game Changer, who is? So that’s my definition of game changer.
How many seconds after Michaela was voted out did it take for you to ask her back?
Well, this is the tricky part about doing an all-star season while you’re shooting one — planning who’s going to be in the all-star season. We did leave two spots open for somebody we might find on Millennials vs. Gen X, and we had two people ready to go if we didn’t. It turns out we found one in Michaela, and for me, the decision was instantaneous. As she was walking off, I wanted to say, “Don’t worry. I’m going to call you in a couple hours to come back”.
And you know, obviously, I have to call CBS and CBS said, “Fantastic. We trust you. Go for it.” I called Michaela, and she was jumping up and down on the phone. You could hear it. She was screaming with excitement, and man, that just makes us so excited, because Michaela is everything you want in a Survivor player. She plays. She wears her emotion on her sleeve. She’s willing to look foolish because it’s what she believes in, and now she gets a second chance to come back and say, okay, I learned a few things. Maybe I was too aggressive with my strategy, and I showed everybody how smart I was, and now she’ll get to play again.
So what can we expect when the season starts and they hit the beach?
When we do a season called Game Changers and invite 20 people to come back and play, we expected everybody to be slugging it out. What we didn’t anticipate is that, because everybody’s a Game Changer, it neutered everybody initially, and everybody was playing from fear that they were going to be the one taken out, and it really made the game unpredictable in an uneasy way. There is an uneasiness in the beginning of in terms of, who’s going to get it? Who’s going to be the first one to die? And then the game finds a rhythm and becomes really interesting on a whole different level.
With no further ado, here are your season 34 contestants:
Andrea Boehlke from Redemption Island and Caramoan seasons.
Brad Culpepper from Blood vs. Water.
Aubry Bracco from Kaoh Rong.
Caleb Reynolds: had to get medevaced in his Kaoh Rong appearance.
Ciera Eastin: She competed in Blood vs. Water and Cambodia.
James "J.T." Thomas: He won Tocantins and competed in Heroes vs. Villains.
Cirie Fields: She showed up in the Micronesia and Heroes vs. Villains seasons, and finished in 4th, 3rd, and 17th place.
Jeff Varner: He participated in the Australian Outback and Cambodia installments and finished in 10th and 17th place.
Debbie Wanner: She finished 9th in her run.
Malcolm Freberg: He showed up in the Philippines and Caramoan installments and came in 4th and 9th place.
Hali Ford: she played in Worlds Apart and took the 11th spot.
Ozzy Lusth: he was a runner-up, 9th and 4th place finisher in the Cook Islands, Micronesia and South Pacific runs.
Michaela Bradshaw: She went out in 14th place during the recent Millennials vs Gen X installment.
Tai Trang: took the 2nd runner-up spot in the Kaoh Rong run.
Sandra Diaz-Twine: she will be a really interesting one as she won in every season she competed in! She took the Pearl Islands and Heroes vs. Villains title.
Tony Vlachos: he won the Cagayan season.
Sarah Lacina: came in 11th place in Cagayan.
"Troyzan" Robertson finally gets his second shot, coming in 8th place during the "One World" take.
Sierra Dawn-Thomas is returning as a 5th place finisher from the "Worlds Apart" cast.
Zeke Smith, went out in 9th place for the recent 33rd season.
The 34th installment is due to premiere on Wednesday night, March 8th, 2017. Stay tuned.
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/12/14/survivor-game-changers-jeff-probst-jaws
Unblocked vids:
https://www.reddit.com/r/survivor/comments/5sv6ut/survivor_game_changers_preseason_videos_unblocked/
reece(:
15-12-2016, 04:59 AM
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JerseyWins
15-12-2016, 05:12 AM
Hopefully since she came in 17th last time, Cirie won't have too big of a target on her. Although she can still get taken out due to being considered a weak competitor in challenges. :worry:
I'm assuming Sandra will have a HUGE target on her though. Tony as well.
Oh and what's up with the Culpeppers getting so many opportunities in Survivor? Aside from being annoyingly entitled and what not, they are both just sooo bland.
Calderyon
15-12-2016, 07:31 AM
Can´t wait to hopefully see Cirie to be voted out for a fourth time. Looking forward to that.
I would also love Sandra to leave relatively early, cause hate or love her, her social game is ace. And i don´t want to see her win three times, as two is enough. If that does happen, she has deserved it though and they might as well rename the game as Sandvivor.
Ciera hopefully leaves before she even steps on the island as she is too annoying. Troyzan, just leave and never return as you will yet again completely s*ck at this game. Debbie, no i´m not interested what profession you are currently pretending to be. Ozzy, yeah i know you are all about honor, eff off already. Sierra, if doing anything at all and being an enabler was a profession, you would be a millionaire.
Only one that i hope makes it really far currently is Tai. Not that much with the rest of them.
Calderyon
15-12-2016, 07:36 AM
Do people want me to make the sweepstakes? I´ll be happy to do it again. We´ll go with 10 players again so everyone would get 2.
Only problem is though that this time i don´t think we can have a drafting style picking because of the spoilers so i´ll have to randomize which player everyone gets.
Headie
15-12-2016, 08:04 AM
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Final 3 confirmed
Calderyon
15-12-2016, 08:59 AM
If that´s the case, hopefully Mikkayla wins out of those. Hopefully not.
reece(:
15-12-2016, 02:18 PM
QUEEN
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AarynGriesfan
15-12-2016, 06:08 PM
Queen Hali is coming for your favorites!
caprimint
15-12-2016, 06:32 PM
Sooo excited for Caleb :amazed: He's got lots of potential to win imo.
Looking forward to Jeff and Sierra too!
VanessaFeltz.
15-12-2016, 06:45 PM
QUEEN
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she is already slaying everyones faves ^^
Headie
15-12-2016, 06:56 PM
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Cirie's challenge threat era!
Well at least the logo's quite nice
reece(:
15-12-2016, 07:55 PM
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Cirie's challenge threat era!
I howled at this
Well at least the logo's quite nice
https://68.media.tumblr.com/22917259e831d240dbfcd0629e886254/tumblr_oi8qdt3YgF1uk37c2o3_540.gif
Macie Lightfoot
16-12-2016, 05:24 AM
I am... not excited for this at all lol (surprise, I know). I think the cast list is kinda garbage, it's a little too soon for another All-Star season, some of these people are exhausting and it's WAY too soon for them to return (Zeke being an obvious one, but even people like Aubry and Tai too), it's a 20 person cast which means that the editing and the pacing will be atrocious as evidenced by Cambodia and MvGX, and the theme of ~game changers~ is ridiculously egregious. They are literally building the entire season around the idea of blindsides, idols, voting blocs, and ~BIG MOVES~ and it's nauseating.
If this season ends up anything like Cambodia and MvGX did, then I don't know how much longer I'll be able to last. I love Survivor (or at least what it used to be), but the corpse is starting to smell iykwim.
reece(:
16-12-2016, 05:48 AM
Koah Rong's and SJDS' can happen though!
Macie Lightfoot
16-12-2016, 06:06 AM
Yes, but it seems like Cambodia and MvGx are reactions to Kaoh Rong and like production is actively trying to "make up" for Michele's win. That is the type of the show they want, for whatever reason.
rk3388
16-12-2016, 07:25 AM
Okay the one thing that I decided annoys me is the theme - Are Hali, Sierra and Jeff Varner really "Game changers" ???
rk3388
16-12-2016, 07:28 AM
Here is a full list of contestants who are not "Game changers":
Andrea Boehlke, Brad Culpepper, Caleb Reynolds, Jeff Varner, Debbie Wanner, Malcolm Freberg, Hali Ford, Michaela Bradshaw, Sarah Lacina, "Troyzan" Robertson, Sierra Dawn-Thomas, and Zeke Smith.
So pretty much 90% of the cast. And i was generous with some of the ones I considered game changers (and I like a few of these people too!)
AarynGriesfan
16-12-2016, 05:08 PM
I think with Tony and Sandra out there they will keep is entertained at the very least so I am excited for this season.
Pete.
16-12-2016, 05:12 PM
Very tempted to watch this
reece(:
16-12-2016, 05:45 PM
Very tempted to watch this
Varner thirst?
JerseyWins
16-12-2016, 05:55 PM
Varner thirst?
http://insidesurvivor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/poetic.gif
Also, I'm reeeally looking forward to seeing 3/4 of this cast. :clap1:
EspeonBB
16-12-2016, 06:03 PM
Idk why they bothered with the "game changers" thing, especially with people like Sierra and Brad in the cast :joker: They should've just called it All-Stars
Sandra to win for a third time plz :fc:
Also, I'm reeeally looking forward to seeing 3/4 of this cast. :clap1:
Yeah. I'm only looking forward to seeing 3 or 4 of them as well
JerseyWins
16-12-2016, 06:22 PM
:joker:
rk3388
16-12-2016, 08:06 PM
Yeah. I'm only looking forward to seeing 3 or 4 of them as well
:joker::joker:
There isn't really a suitable thread for this, but according to Inside Survivor, seasons 35 and 36 will also be filmed in the Mamanuca Islands... which means yet more generically-titled seasons and contrived themes! Hooray!
Jack_
18-12-2016, 02:56 AM
okay so the plan was to finish every season before March (btw why is it the premiere not in Feb?) but given I have a disso to write I don't think that's feasible
So instead, can anyone tell me the season numbers I need to have seen to cover all of this casts previous appearances? You can discount 1 through 12, 17 and 28 onwards :spin2:
Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 02:58 AM
okay so the plan was to finish every season before March (btw why is it the premiere not in Feb?) but given I have a disso to write I don't think that's feasible
So instead, can anyone tell me the season numbers I need to have seen to cover all of this casts previous appearances? You can discount 1 through 12, 17 and 28 onwards :spin2:
13, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 25, 26, and 27 I think?
*HOWEVER* 16, 20, and 26 all have returning players so :3
The premiere's delayed because the US version of Hunted is airing in Survivor's usual slot
The other seasons are 13, 16, 18, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 and 27. Edit: what Troy said
Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 03:01 AM
oops I forgot 23 so go with MB's list
Writing up that list reminded me how close we were to seeing the first ever proper Guatemala returnee, plus Natalie A and Earl, and instead we get... well, criticism of this cast has already been exhausted so I won't go there, but it's still pretty depressing
Jack_
18-12-2016, 03:05 AM
Christ that's more than I thought there'd be :o thanks guys!
I may as well just watch 14, 15 and 19 then to cover FvF and HvV along the way, but then it'll only be 21 that's being missed out :laugh: the reality is I'll probably cover half of those at best lol
Macie Lightfoot
18-12-2016, 03:15 AM
Caramoan has someone from 21 sooooo you might as well just watch them all~
Jack_
18-12-2016, 03:17 AM
ffs :joker: I'll get restarted on Cook Islands soon then
_Tom_
18-12-2016, 03:29 AM
Sandra's returning? :amazed:
VanessaFeltz.
23-12-2016, 04:49 PM
Russell Hantz @russellhantz Dec 15
Sandra is a two time winner!You can't take that from her and I agree she should be there but some of them names got me like
reece(:
23-12-2016, 04:53 PM
Russell fumed he didn't make it on?
Here for him coming for Troyzan/Brad/Sierra etc tho!
Calderyon
23-12-2016, 05:03 PM
Russell is right though.
rk3388
23-12-2016, 05:53 PM
Sierra Dawn Thomas was a miscommunication among the producers they meant to get Sierra from Tocantis <3
Russell is right though.
What, that he should kill himself?
Calderyon
23-12-2016, 07:16 PM
^ No. That here are people who don´t belong there.
Braden
27-12-2016, 03:15 PM
Hype for S34, my pre-season ranking based on who I am looking forward to see return (most to least):
Sandra
Cirie
Debbie
Jeff
Hali
Aubry
Tony
Tai
Michaela
Sierra
Zeke
Andrea
Malcolm
Sarah
Ozzy
Brad
JT
Ciera
Troyzan
The cast (because it's such a mystery) will be officially revealed next Wednesday, per the fount of all knowledge that is Troyzan Robertson, which means cast interviews and Jeff's cast assessment etc etc you know the drill by now
reece(:
02-02-2017, 02:41 AM
Perched for the two min viddie on Ciera voting out her mom
Braden
02-02-2017, 01:29 PM
I hope we don't get in-game shots for cast photos again. I need a full-body shot of Debbie Wanner's swimsuit (that sounds so wrong, but hopefully people will get what I'm referring to :p).
JerseyWins
04-02-2017, 07:41 AM
This season is going to be confessional gold. Even though I don't like her, Debbie is one of the many that has good confessionals. Whether I'll find her amusing or not is another story but she was hit or miss for me in Kaoh Rong. But confessionals aside, she was annoying af on the island.
Cast photos (http://imgur.com/a/gMmz6) are out! Thankfully, they're not along the lines of those... ahem, interesting in-game shots they had to use thanks to the cyclone last season. Anyway, here are the two anyone will care about:
http://i.imgur.com/5uPlYP2.png
http://i.imgur.com/wLawv7p.png
Braden
07-02-2017, 07:16 PM
Oh my god, my vagina tingling.
I'm already loving MB's avatar.
Braden
07-02-2017, 07:20 PM
http://68.media.tumblr.com/cfdef1bea427aa3e08b3735cfa7d38e0/tumblr_n9udeytoj61ql5yr7o1_500.gif
Braden
07-02-2017, 07:22 PM
Yeah, what's up with J.T.
I suppose he's the kind of guy who gets island-hot though.
Braden
07-02-2017, 07:23 PM
idk if I'm feeling Troy's extreme close-up compared to the other shots, lmao.
Sierra being first of the pack though *sobs* She's making something of herself.
VanessaFeltz.
07-02-2017, 07:29 PM
Cast photos and the shots they showed in the preview during the finale of s33 looks were good. (My only other wish is they use survivor israel soundtrack <33)
JerseyWins
07-02-2017, 10:09 PM
Brad looks like he's aged A LOT considering I think his season was only like 3(?) years ago. :joker:
But holy ****, my excitement is through the roof again now that I'm reminded of this cast. There's like a block of legends at one point in there: the Troyzan-Tony-Michaela-Malcolm-Tai-Debbie-Sandra-JT-Ozzy stretch on the photos page is legendary (minus Debbie of course :fan:) Then there's some other gems in there as well.
Will there be videos of everyone tomorrow too?
LukeB
07-02-2017, 10:10 PM
J.T looks better than Ozzy. Ozzy was only attractive during fans vs favourites. The jesus look doesn't do him any justice
Braden
07-02-2017, 10:24 PM
idk whether to sport a Sierra or Hali avatar?
Guess who's front and centre? (no, not Tony)
http://i.imgur.com/zdJWfcD.png
Braden
07-02-2017, 11:02 PM
https://media.tenor.co/images/e3f12d425385527b9db44cdc20432a41/raw
JerseyWins
07-02-2017, 11:06 PM
Sarah already sunburned? :joker: (when do these pics get taken?)
Also, Brad doesn't look like he's aged at all in that pic so maybe it was just the close-up.
Pretty epic final 5 if it goes from Tony to Cirie.
afaik they're taken pre-game, so I suppose Sarah really is that white
Then again, I can't imagine she gets outside much with all those Presidential duties of hers keeping her busy
I dedicate my 24,000th post to the one, the only, the ~Wanner~ of Survivor: Game Changers:
http://i.imgur.com/G2YMCoH.png
you're welcome
Braden
08-02-2017, 05:59 PM
http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/08/survivor-game-changers-full-cast-twist-revealed/
Another cast photo (spoilered because it's enormous):
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/game-changers-cast.jpg?w=2700
The article basically referrs to the fact that,
Idols will be hidden in more ambiguous places, such as tribal council.
Braden
08-02-2017, 06:06 PM
Hali and Sierra being centre of both cast photos, and Debbie looking like she's halfway-through taking a dump in the second one :love:
Yeah, I much prefer that cast photo to the everyone-looking-uncomfortable-with-their-nips-out one
Idols at tribal sounds fun? The "idols could just fall in your lap" thing sounds... slightly suspicious, mind
There are also pictures of the two tribes in that article
Braden
08-02-2017, 06:13 PM
Well spotted :p
Mana:
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/mana-tribe-members.jpg?w=2700
Nuku:
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/nuku-tribe-members.jpg?w=2700
ps: thank god Troyzan's got an actual cast pic and not just that creepy close-up we saw yesterday
pps: I'll say it again... poor JT
Braden
08-02-2017, 06:21 PM
Oh my god, Sandra's bikini. I'm loving this side-sweep she's got going on too, she looks fantastic.
Braden
08-02-2017, 06:47 PM
Meet The Castaways:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9oBiL9CdR4
We can watch it via:
https://www.proxysite.com/
Braden
08-02-2017, 06:48 PM
That video has made me so excited.
I love how adorkable Debbie is throughout it.
reece(:
08-02-2017, 06:55 PM
Hali serving vegan looks
I was making detailed notes on the Meet the Cast videos which I then proceeded to lose, so I'll just say that Malcolm and Michaela are in my good books for wanting to work with Debbie
(and I'm loving how ridiculously overconfident Sandra is :love:)
reece(:
08-02-2017, 08:31 PM
Varner dragging <3
reece(:
08-02-2017, 08:32 PM
"I'm no longer the gangster in the oprah suit, they can know me as the still magnolia"
YAS Queen!
JerseyWins
08-02-2017, 11:07 PM
Don't have time to watch the "Meet the Castaways" stuff atm but a couple quick points:
- The Mana tribe is FIRE but both tribes are so good that I think they can each steal the show depending on which side is going to TC each episode.
- I think/hope that Tony & Caleb will align just because Caleb is the loyal type and Tony is the type that will realize that and try his best to get him on his side. Although the loyalty aspect with him makes it pretty unpredictable who he'll align with. I mean probably just whoever gets to him first. :joker:
- Why does J.T. make that really weird face in every pic?
I think there was something else I was thinking as I was scrolling through the last two pages but oh well I guess that's it for now. Can't wait to see the interviews.
reece(:
08-02-2017, 11:14 PM
Preshow Ranking
1. Cirie
2. Sandra
3. Varner
4. Debbie
5. Michaela
6. Aubry
7. Malcolm
8. Tony
9. Hali
10. Andrea
11. Sarah
12. Ciera
13. J.T.
14. Tai
15. Ozzy
16. Brad
17. Sierra
18. Caleb
19. Z***
20. Troyzan
Headie
09-02-2017, 12:10 AM
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Pray 4 Debs
reece(:
09-02-2017, 12:29 AM
QUICK NOTE: The good folks at XFINITY sent me deep into the Fijian wilderness to bring you an exclusive look at “Survivor: Game Changers.” While I was there I conducted interviews with “Survivor” host Jeff Probst and the entire 20-person cast. I also captured exclusive photos and other behind-the-scenes tidbits. So, be sure to follow me on Twitter (@gordonholmes) for up-to-the-minute updates.
Gordon Holmes: Alright, “Game Changers.”
Jeff Probst: (Laughs)
Holmes: I can already feel the Internet getting pissed off.
Probst: Why?
Holmes: It took me a while to figure this out. And what I came up with is…Major League Baseball has 30 All-Stars a year. They only have a handful of Game Changers. I’m thinking Babe Ruth, I’m thinking Jackie Robinson.
Probst: Interesting.
Holmes: I love me some Tai and Hali, but that term seems very grandiose for how their initial runs went.
Probst: I hear your point. When you hear “Game Changers” you think these are people who changed the game dramatically. My feeling about “Survivor” has always been, most moves aren’t going to work, but you have to have the courage to make a move. That’s who these people are. We could have called this season “Move Makers” or whatever, but it seemed like “Game Changers” because the game changes as a result of moves. You have to be willing to make those moves. And there are definitely people here whose moves have not worked. They’re still game changers to me. I guess you’re going to have to look at it through my filter which is having the courage to try something without any certainty that it will work. Some of them make big moves, some of them make quiet moves, some of them make moves that work, some of them make moves that don’t. But, they were all willing to make a move. And I think if you look back historically at the majority of players, it’s not even close the amount that didn’t make any moves. They just hoped that something happened to someone else.
Holmes: Is a way to look at this…hold on… OK, Kelley Wentworth didn’t have much of a chance to do anything her first time around, but you knew she had that potential in her?
Probst: A hundred percent. I think you’re on to something good here, Gordon. We have the insight into having spent not just 39 days, but hundreds of hours with these people. I always bring this up; there were two people that wanted Amber Brkich back; it was me and Lynne (Spillman). People say, “I don’t see it.” Well, I see it. There’s a subtle gameplay in Amber that was overlooked by a lot of people. I see that in Ciera Eastin. Her biggest thing people remember is her yelling for people to play the game, she voted out her mom, she forced a rock draw. That’s a girl that willing to make a move. She hasn’t made a great move yet, but she’s making moves.
Holmes: What’ve we got as far as twists this season?
Probst: Well, we’re splitting into three tribes after the second episode. That will really mess up the game. And it’s one of the things that the audience counts on because players come in with these pre-conceived ideas, “I’m going to lock in an alliance on day two and I’m going to take it to the end.” Until we split up the tribes and you don’t know if you’re ever going to see that person again. It forces you to reevaluate. And it rarely fails. I know I promised my loyalty to someone else, but they’re not here anymore. “Survivor” is not that complicated in terms of the twists we do. It’s just the impact of those twists that is devastating. You get the odd colored buff and you’re sent to Exile Island. “Oh man, I didn’t do anything wrong.” Nope, it’s the luck of the draw. You might be done.
Holmes: Any tricks planned for the idols this season?
Probst: What we’re doing with idols this season is something we’ve never done before which is; every idol that is placed is inconsistent. Usually there’s a theme to how you find idols. This season is, the theme is there is no theme. You might find one idol in a very traditional way, you might find another idol at Tribal.
Holmes: Interesting, this sounds like it’ll curb the problem of someone figuring out the drop style and then having that advantage when an idol is replaced.
Probst: Exactly. And if we go deep enough, we have a long list of where they might show up. It just matters how often they get played. Because as you know, if they hold on to the idols or they don’t find them, then sometimes they aren’t reintroduced. So, we have a cool, long list, but there’s no consistency. That’s going to throw people off.
Holmes: “Kaoh Rong” just ended, and there’s been a lot of talk about a juror’s responsibility. You don’t say vote for the person who made the biggest moves or vote for the person who’s the best at challenges or vote for the person you like the most. You just say, “Vote.”
Probst: If there’s one flaw in our game, it’s that the jury all lives together as the game continues and they can influence each other. They can influence each other by spreading lies that aren’t even true. Someone gets voted out and they can decide to sabotage the remaining players. They can tell a lie to the jury and taint the vote. And it drives me nuts. But, I also have to remind myself that the jury has experienced the game in their own way. I’m experiencing it my way. And I don’t have a vote, and the audience doesn’t have a vote. But what can you do with the jury? The only thing we can do is try to find ways to hold the jury more accountable. It’s something that I’m working on, but I haven’t figured it out yet.
Holmes: The players are in lockdown before the game. They occupy the same space, but they’re not allowed to talk. Is it just too long to have someone on lockdown for two-and-a-half weeks?
Probst: Yeah. It’s just too long.
Holmes: If you and I are playing the game and you vote me out. Right now there is nothing stopping me from telling the other jurors that you were making racist comments, sexist comments, anything.
Probst: “Survivor” is a microcosm of life. Some people say, “No, it’s not. It’s a gameshow. It’s contrived, you put people on an island, there are always cameras around.” But human nature is the same no matter where you are. And when you’re stripped to your core, you’re left only with yourself. You get desperate. Your truth comes out. But, the one thing that doesn’t change, in the game, in the office, is the politics of being a human are always at play. And if there is someone who is jealous of you because you got a promotion they think they should have had, there’s every chance that they start dropping little social bombs to the boss. I just heard he was partying too much, I hear he’s mean to his children. That’s the way it goes. That’s the part of me that says you can’t control the vote because it’s a social game. But, I have to say, with the exceptions of “Kaoh Rong,” we’ve had a string of juries who have done a wonderful job of rewarding the winner even if the winner is the one who betrayed them. So, I’m optimistic that the people who are voted out of the game respect it enough to give it to the person who played the best.
Holmes: A lot of my friends have kids who watch “Survivor.” Now, it isn’t necessarily children’s programming, but there’s adventure and fun games and you can see the appeal. There have been quite a few instances of bullying on the show recently. If I’m writing a fiction story, my bully is getting some comeuppance. “Survivor” does not always work like that.
Probst: Nothing has excited me as much in the last six or seven years than the amount of kids who are watching “Survivor.” Nothing comes close. And we make this show for families. That is a known fact out here. I’m constantly saying, “Imagine a ten year old.” The challenge has to be exciting, underwater shots, dramatic facial expressions, and it has to be easy enough to understand for a kid watching. So, when it comes to something like bullying, I actually am glad that these things happen because I think they’re teaching moments. The way the world works, sometimes the bully does win. In Kaoh Rong when we had Jason and Scot and Alecia, what parents said to me was, “We sat with our kids and asked them ‘What would you do?’ What would you do if your friend was a bully? What would you do if it was your friend that was getting picked on?’” I love it. I love that “Survivor” shows the way the world works. I love that “Survivor” shows that a nerd like Cochran can rise above and claim the prize and a guy like Ozzy can dive down 20 feet and catch a fish with a spear. All of these things are possible. You can be a girl who comes from the city and loves computers like Aubry and make it to the end. You can be Cirie who gets up off the couch in her forties and says, “I want to give it a try.” I get so excited by “Survivor.” I feel like somehow my life ended up exactly as it should be and I’m so proud of the stories we tell because they’re honest. The good guy doesn’t always win.
Holmes: Who’s gonna win this whole thing?
Probst: Well, I have a few thoughts. Cirie is a favorite for me. I think the audience would love to see her win. If Cirie makes it deep, it probably means that Sandra is somewhere behind. Varner might be in there with them. I think those old-school type of players might get together and say, “Look, we have no kind of chance against the younger kids unless we take over.” And they have to trust that no matter what happens, no matter what tribe they find themselves in, they need to stay true to each other. If not, I’m putting my money on Ciera. I really want to be like Ciera. I want to be courageous enough to be someone who says, “I’m going for broke.” And not just talk it, but actually show my kids this is how you win. You look for the fastball and you swing. And if it’s a curveball, you’re out. But if it’s down the middle and you keep your eye on the ball and you connect. But, don’t play for a single. Don’t hope for a walk. That’s (expletive deleted). I’d play hard on “Survivor” every (expletive deleted) day.
Holmes: Who’s going to go home early?
Probst: You’ve got to believe Tony is in trouble because he’s so strong in his bravado. But, I don’t know what the gameplay is going to be. I’d hope the game players would get rid of who they think are the weakest players. But honestly Gordon, I really don’t have any idea. I think you could make six or seven pitches for how this season could go. Troyzan could be at the end or he could be the first one off. Tai would seem to be in trouble, or is that a guy that you drag to the end.
Holmes: I always say; “‘Survivor’ is Jeff Probst dumping out a bowl of marbles. They’re never all going to go the same place twice.”
Probst: That’s great. I love that.
Holmes: I don’t just come out here to interview twenty contestants. I come out here to get those twenty contestants ready for the game.
Probst: (Laughs) Love it. I can’t wait.
Holmes: One of the ways we did it this time is called, “The Best Defense.”
Probst: (Laughs)
Holmes: You and I arrive on the beach on day one and I want you gone. I’ll give you some of the ways I’m going to try to accomplish that and you have to defend against them.
Probst: Got it.
Holmes: Probst is a likable guy, this crew seems to dig him. I don’t want to sit next to him in front of a jury. Let’s get rid of him now while we still can.
Probst: Guys, I just overheard Holmes talking about me. And I’ll say this; I own everything he said. I like to think that the crew likes me. I like to think that people enjoy me on this show. But if you’re going to let that guy come in and sully my reputation? That’s a guy I don’t want around. I’m owning my stuff. I’m willing to play with you, and if you’re going to vote me out because I’m a nice guy, that’s (expletive deleted). I say we take Holmes out right now. Because he’s going to do it to all of you. He’s got his little traps for everyone.
Holmes: Probst is the producer for a popular TV show that has been on the air for 40 years.
Probst: (Laughs)
Holmes: I’m sure this guy is loaded. He doesn’t need the million. Let’s send him packing.
Probst: Again, I heard Gordon talking about money being a factor. I definitely have plenty of money. I’ve done well from “Survivor” and I’m not embarrassed about it. I’m out here to win. But I want to ask you, do you want to beat the best? Because one thing I am good at is social politics. I’m as good as anyone out here. And the game has advanced to a point where a schlub like Holmes ends up here and he’s got nothing. He’s a used car salesman. He’s trying to sell you a Ford when you know I’ll get you a Tesla. And I don’t want to defend anything else. You should come hard at me. But, let’s get rid of the drab first and then let’s play.
Holmes: You ever see “Two and a Half Men?” Probst was on it in his birthday suit and he looked like a million bucks. You want to go toe-to-toe with that guy for individual immunity? I don’t.
Probst: OK, on this one I’ll be honest. I am 54 years old. I know you’re surprised to hear that, but it’s true. I’m the oldest person out here. And I have run a lot of these challenges when we rehearse them, and I’m not going to lie…I rarely win. I want to win and I will work hard to win, but I give you my word right now, if I win more than two challenges, I will stop competing in them. I will give up and not compete. You can all vote me out. I will literally say to Probst, the other Probst…whoever will be hosting.
Holmes: (Laughs)
Probst: (Laughs) I will to say to Rove McManus who is now hosting, I will literally say to “Boston” Rob who is now hosting, that I will not compete anymore. Because if I can win two, I’ll go home a happy man.
Holmes: That’s the strategy? Quit after you win two?
Probst: No, if you want to vote me out, vote me out. Because honestly I never thought I’d win two. Whether or not I’d really sit out at the point depends on where I am in the game. If I’m strong with my alliance and you want me to stick around? Are you sure? Alright, I’ll stick around for you.
Holmes: Outside-of-the-box thinking, that’s a Tony move.
Probst: It’s Tony Robbins. Change your state. I just went from “I can kick your ass” to “I trust you.” And here’s the real truth. The humanitarian in me knows what it’s like to win. I didn’t think I would. I am honestly shocked. That necklace felt great, I’d like to feel it again. But Hali, I’d rather you have a shot at winning. And I think you’re going to love how it feels. I still want to beat you, but I want you to have the experience. Just don’t vote me out for that. If you vote me out for something else, that’s fine. We should all do it. Once we win we should step down so we can all have that feeling and control this game.
Holmes: Interesting. And that jerk Holmes has won eight immunity challenges in a row. He’s a victory hog.
Probst: (Laughs) That number is impressive. But Holmes…you know what it is…this is the tricky part. Holmes is the guy who never got laid. And he’s trying to take out someone who’s more popular than him. Which is not true if he knew my life. Holmes is an easy guy to get out. He’s married, he’s got his hot chick, so he’s good to go. Little does he know she’s going to leave him in six-to-seven years because he’s been hunched over the computer for too long.
Holmes: My impending divorce might earn me some sympathy votes.
Probst: (Laughs) Exactly! Get rid of him!
Holmes: A little bird told me the first challenge involves digging. How much do you want Caleb to give that a second shot?
Probst: (Laughs) I didn’t even think of that.
Holmes: Liar.
Probst: (Laughs) I didn’t! But he’ll do it. That’s the kind of guy he is.
Don’t miss the two-hour season premiere of “Survivor: Game Changers,” Wednesday March 8, 2017 at 8 p.m. ET.
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But, I have to say, with the exceptions of “Kaoh Rong,” we’ve had a string of juries who have done a wonderful job of rewarding the winner even if the winner is the one who betrayed them.
Altogether now: SHUT THE EVERLOVING **** UP PROBST
And are they really doing the two-tribes-into-three thing for the third time in four seasons?
Macie Lightfoot
09-02-2017, 12:59 AM
And are they really doing the two-tribes-into-three thing for the third time in four seasons?
BUT THEY'LL NEVER SEE IT COMING!!!!!!!!!
I think the thing I was most impressed with in that interview (the bar is incredibly low btw) was that Probst didn't launch into some tirade about how "some of these people are game changers and some of these people have to change their game......x"
rk3388
09-02-2017, 12:59 AM
Jeff: " The definition of Game Changers are people who TRIED to change the game"
Uhm... no it's not jeff or else this could be Survivor: People who tried to change the game
Trying to explain why fricken Sierra, Troyzan and Brad Culpepper made the cut :idc:
reece(:
09-02-2017, 01:02 AM
I'm shook Probst championed three women!
reece(:
09-02-2017, 01:04 AM
And are they really doing the two-tribes-into-three thing for the third time in four seasons?
It's a trash twist that needs to go
Braden
09-02-2017, 01:07 AM
****ty of Jeff to constantly disparage Michele's win.
Has he even said stated why he thinks Aubry specifically deserved it over her?
This season's tribal has a shipwreck theme, presumably to reflect the trainwreck that's about to unfold
rk3388
09-02-2017, 01:14 AM
****ty of Jeff to constantly disparage Michele's win.
Has he even said stated why he thinks Aubry specifically deserved it over her?
have you watched the season?
rk3388
09-02-2017, 01:15 AM
If Michelle was male y'all would have hated her
reece(:
09-02-2017, 01:16 AM
Michele was normal person doing Reality TV done right!
Macie Lightfoot
09-02-2017, 01:23 AM
https://www.facebook.com/ETCanada/videos/1325927900787527/
Erin Cebula of ET Canada fame (:love::love::love:) interviewed Probst in a lightning round type of deal and he claims that his two favorite seasons are Cambodia and MvGX and Natalie White is the least deserving winner......... yikes!
Macie Lightfoot
09-02-2017, 01:28 AM
have you watched the season?
yes, we all watched the season and saw Aubry make quite a few detrimental mistakes while Michele didn't make any real mistakes and formed relationships with people!
rk3388
09-02-2017, 03:19 AM
-She didn't go to tribal council until Day 22
-It never seemed like she didn't have any control or sway in the game
-She was taken pretty much as a goat, her alliance in the beauty tribe was a joke
-She never really showed much of a personality to make up for the past three points
Brooklyn
09-02-2017, 03:28 AM
Why would not going to tribal be a bad thing?
Macie Lightfoot
09-02-2017, 04:40 AM
-She didn't go to tribal council until Day 22
-It never seemed like she didn't have any control or sway in the game
-She was taken pretty much as a goat, her alliance in the beauty tribe was a joke
-She never really showed much of a personality to make up for the past three points
-That's nothing to hold against her
-She only voted in the minority one time (and for whatever it's worth, she was only kept out of the loop for that one vote because of her closeness to Julia. She was quickly able to adapt to that and cut Julia loose the very next round)
-She got five votes to win because she actually formed relationships with people and didn't needlessly lose people's trust or backstab people
-Again, despite what was shown, she clearly had enough of a personality to form strong relationships to the point where FIVE people voted for her to win. There isn't a better winning strategy than simply being someone that people would have no qualms with rewarding the victory to (see Jenna Morasca, Lisa Donohue, etc.) One example was everyone being SHOCKED and freaking out that Cydney voted for Michele to win, and then in one of Cydney's interviews she was like "umm well the show actually never really highlighted how close Michele and I were ever since the tribe swap so my vote was always going to go to her :shrug:"
rk3388
09-02-2017, 06:17 AM
Why would not going to tribal be a bad thing?
she didn't have to play the game for three weeks. And it wasn't her winning the challenges for the Beauty team either.
rk3388
09-02-2017, 06:17 AM
well I also didnt like Lisa or Jenna as winners so I guess we'll just have different opinions
JerseyWins
09-02-2017, 06:20 AM
Great 5 minute clip to start off.
The highlights of that video:
Tony: "You know, it's gonna be the same circus different clowns" :joker: :joker: :joker:
Sarah: "Ok let me dissect this. 4th time playing, never won. If you've been married 4 times, would you be good at marriage?" :joker: I don't even care that she gunned my boy Ozzy, that's pretty good lol.
Sandra in general.
I liked Hali a lot in that (I mean I like her to begin with I just think she's unmemorable but she seems ready to play and is someone who will most likely be underestimated). I also feel like Andrea will most likely get underestimated by the cast but maybe she ends up playing too hard or something idk.
On to the individual ones, just a few random comments for the most part:
Sierra - Wait, everyone on the jury loved Sierra? I wouldn't be surprised if she flops twice tbh.
Hali - Not much to comment on in this one but yeah I like what she's saying and definitely think she could be more under the radar than anyone.
Cirie - Legend :love: also I'd love to see her & Caleb working together if possible
Andrea - Third time's the charm.
Aubry - I kinda feel like she's gonna be an early boot but maybe I'm wrong.
Jeff - Meh at the interview but I liked him in both seasons so not worried about him not being entertaining
Tony - I'm pretty sure nooooo one is gonna buy his bs this time around but LOL at the enthusiasm and it'd be absolutely epic if he somehow made it through again. King T.V. :worship:
Sarah - Lul @ the marriage line again.. maybe she could be a pleasant surprise but I did also like her through most of Cagayan anyway.
JT - I hope he gets redemption for HvV. Lol @ wanting to take Brad to the end after he pisses everyone off.
Brad - Very whatever even in this interview but I wouldn't be surprised if this guy is dragged along at least for a while. Interesting that he wants to work with a lot of girls this time when he was in a bro down last time.
Zeke - Solid, very game-oriented again but I like to see that for the most part :clap1:
Michaela - She's pretty great and I'm sure she'll be entertaining as hell again.
Debbie - She was partially annoying even in this video but I'm going to watch with an open mind and yesssss @ wanting to work with Tony!!!
Troyzan - Idk what it is about him but I like the guy. :joker: THIS IS HIS ISLAND
Tai - Lol lovable Tai. I feel like Tai & Ciera would be pretty fun to watch playing together so interesting that he mentioned her.
Ciera - I felt like Ciera might actually be an early target (big gameplayer that also might not really be viewed as an asset in challenges - might be one of those people with too much game not enough forming relationships). However, I did really like what she had to say and maybe she lasts.
Sandra - I swear Sandra gets better and better with time. :laugh3:
Malcolm - "I'll stab you in the back and you'll say thank you afterwards" :joker: Out of my favorites, it's been the longest since I've seen Tony & Malcolm (who are also my top 2 pre-season anyway) so safe to say I can't wait to see him on Survivor again.
Caleb - Big time wildcard for sure.
Ozzy - Nice way to wrap it up :clap1:
Main thing I got from watching all that... *****ING EVERYONE'S WORRIED ABOUT TONY, NOOOOOO (:fc: Debbie does something right and saves him)
A decent amount of people seem to like Cirie and want to work with her though so there's some good news.
Headie
09-02-2017, 07:26 AM
ET Canada interviews:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5_4FdYvmN1Oj0ofFjJ0_Fg/videos
she didn't have to play the game for three weeks. And it wasn't her winning the challenges for the Beauty team either.
Not going to tribal =/= not playing the game for three weeks
Winchele strikes again!
LemonJam
09-02-2017, 11:03 AM
First thoughts: **** me J.T looks like ****.
Probst: But, I have to say, with the exceptions of “Kaoh Rong,” we’ve had a string of juries who have done a wonderful job of rewarding the winner even if the winner is the one who betrayed them.
can someone ****ing fire Probst already? It's just so odd that the person hosting the ****ing show doesn't seem to understand the game. I'm a HUGE fan of Aubry and think she's the best contestant we've had in years but Michelle completely deserved it.
Like it genuinely perplexes me how fans try to make their opinion feel like it's right because they watched fourteen 45 minute programs and they feel like it matters over people on the show who've actually been with them for roughly 19-38 days?!?!
Erin Cebula of ET Canada fame (:love::love::love:) interviewed Probst in a lightning round type of deal and he claims... Natalie White is the least deserving winner......... yikes!
Natalie White is probably my favourite winner because it really shows what it really takes to win survivor. I prefer Sandra as a contestant, of course, but Natalie's win really opened up a discourse about what the game of Survivor (a SOCIAL and strategic game) is really about. Of course, I feel that had the editors actually, you know, done their job in showing why Natalie won we wouldn't have had these bullshit opinions in the first place.
I'm fine with Jeff as a host (my phone autocorrected this to goat, which lol) except when he's doing that "how do you text the word 'you'?" crap... but as a producer? Nah. It's noticeable how the show, with a few exceptions, began to nosedive as soon as he joined the production team
LemonJam
09-02-2017, 11:29 AM
except when he's doing that "how do you text the word 'you'?" crap
I'm guessing he asked this on MvGX which makes me SO glad I haven't watched it.
Yup, be very thankful indeed
Braden
09-02-2017, 01:16 PM
I love the ET Canada interviews. Erin is such a likable person who asks all the right questions :p
Also loving this mini Hali/Sierra feud. Come through UTR World Apart girls!
VanessaFeltz.
09-02-2017, 03:57 PM
I think Michelle did NOT deserve to win over Aubry at all but for him to shade her every single time he gives an interview is very disrespectful. You are the host of the show, you should be respectful to each and every player.
Macie Lightfoot
09-02-2017, 04:09 PM
yeah it's just amazing to me that seventeen years later and Probst still doesn't understand the idea of a social game
Headie
09-02-2017, 05:15 PM
https://68.media.tumblr.com/6916b0a339fd855cfd46def0dfee4888/tumblr_ol3yv3FV9Y1utpccwo1_540.png
https://68.media.tumblr.com/34ff816e2528992c6dfbed536579e1df/tumblr_ol3yv3FV9Y1utpccwo2_540.png
https://68.media.tumblr.com/bb381d72a5d4aabb6a7d6be86bd4f385/tumblr_ol3yv3FV9Y1utpccwo3_540.png
JerseyWins
09-02-2017, 05:31 PM
JT: I can work with Sandra. I think we'll be able to work together. And I think given our gameplay if I made it to the end with Sandra, I'd beat her.
I don't know about thaaaat.
JerseyWins
09-02-2017, 06:13 PM
A look at the two tribes:
https://i.gyazo.com/0fda545fbd91b072b8ec25eb4c81940e.png
I would guess Nuku will be mostly centered around Cirie/JT/Ozzy and at least one of the three will go VERY early. :worry:
Mana seems like it'll have A LOT going on but especially the focus on Tony & Sandra.
reece(:
09-02-2017, 06:50 PM
JT: I can work with Sandra. I think we'll be able to work together. And I think given our gameplay if I made it to the end with Sandra, I'd beat her.
I don't know about thaaaat.
Long may his delusion continue and he takes her to the end to become a three time winner!
#JeffProbstExposedParty
A look at the two tribes:
https://i.gyazo.com/0fda545fbd91b072b8ec25eb4c81940e.png
I would guess Nuku will be mostly centered around Cirie/JT/Ozzy and at least one of the three will go VERY early. :worry:
Mana seems like it'll have A LOT going on but especially the focus on Tony & Sandra.
Make the most of those tribe divisions while you can - you're not going to see them after the premiere
Macie Lightfoot
09-02-2017, 07:35 PM
I don't even like Wentworthless but let me just leave this here
829758613753192448
Headie
09-02-2017, 07:41 PM
Mess @ all the men underestimating Sandra
She's coming for that third win! <3
JerseyWins
09-02-2017, 07:58 PM
I love Kelly Wentworthalot (in Cambodia anyway where she was actually showcased) but Caleb kinda "changed the game" competition-wise. We've seen comp threats but we've never seen someone go THAT hard in challenges to the point where they looked in as bad shape as Caleb looked when he got med-evacuated.
I don't mind her saying that though because Caleb is wrong too. Sandra changed the game in a way where she didn't do too much around camp and gave the illusion that she's being dragged to the end but won both times anyway; it's not just the wins. So I guess she changed the game by using that style of play to win. Also, being a loud & obnoxious, even cutthroat, player like a Tony and managing to not get kicked off anyway. Although Tony is a game changer for different reasons as well.
A lot of the "game changer" reasoning is pretty far-fetched anyway so Sandra is definitely not one that should be questioned over others at the least.
VanessaFeltz.
09-02-2017, 08:17 PM
Debbie Wanner (Kaoh Rong): Sandra Diaz is going to be one of the first to go. No one wants to see her win three times.
she is cancelled
It's not as much that Caleb pushed himself more than any Survivor challenge competitor ever as it is the fact that they were made to dig through hot sand for hours in temperatures which should frankly be illegal
It just so happens that Caleb was doing the most work (like, come on, Cydney nearly died too), and his sense of entitlement paired with his complete lack of self-awareness here... yikes. It'd be comical if it didn't come from someone so utterly humourless as Caleb
Quick ranking:
Debbie
Sandra
Cirie
Michaela
Aubry
Malcolm
Sarah
Tai
Tony
Hali
Sierra
Jeff
JT
Andrea
Ozzy
Caleb
Brad
Ciera
Zeke
Troyzan
(I was moving Michaela, Malcolm and Aubry about quite a bit between fourth and sixth, plus I was tempted to put Ciera second-from-last, but I think I'll stick with that for now)
reece(:
10-02-2017, 04:30 PM
I love Kelly Wentworthalot (in Cambodia anyway where she was actually showcased) but Caleb kinda "changed the game" competition-wise. We've seen comp threats but we've never seen someone go THAT hard in challenges to the point where they looked in as bad shape as Caleb looked when he got med-evacuated.
Russell Swan already did it
Headie
10-02-2017, 04:57 PM
https://68.media.tumblr.com/a21c60cd92e567ef06e2e17886787f80/tumblr_ol5nxvslVz1sp9h5lo1_400.gif
Sandra did that :clap1:
JerseyWins
11-02-2017, 03:58 AM
Russell Swan already did it
Oops... fair enough. :joker: Although it's not the same but I guess close enough so Caleb didn't exactly "change the game" going out like that in a challenge.
DrunkerThanMoses
11-02-2017, 07:39 AM
Profile favs now added
reece(:
11-02-2017, 03:48 PM
Mama is here!
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reece(:
12-02-2017, 05:24 AM
See all the one to one ET interviews here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5_4FdYvmN1Oj0ofFjJ0_Fg
Watching now
reece(:
12-02-2017, 05:27 AM
Tony's teasers <3
Underground spy shack :love:
Clones
Someone idoled out without an idol :joker:
Screaming
reece(:
12-02-2017, 05:39 AM
Not Andrea clocking onto the idols hidden at tribal council before it's even begun
reece(:
12-02-2017, 05:40 AM
Andrea: "I'm thinking badass girl alliance"
Come into my Top 5 hun!
reece(:
12-02-2017, 05:43 AM
Ciera wanting to hook up with Culpepper
Is this stuff of nightmare?
reece(:
12-02-2017, 06:01 AM
Howling at Sandra's cut throat chat
"I don't know about the perfect group, some of them I don't even know why they've been invited back"
Drag Troy and Brad!
reece(:
12-02-2017, 06:03 AM
Lmao at the Russell drag without mentioning his name
reece(:
12-02-2017, 06:06 AM
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Needs to be put here
reece(:
12-02-2017, 06:17 AM
"J.T. and Ozzy, don't come for me and I won't send for you guys" :worship:
reece(:
12-02-2017, 06:23 AM
OK Culpepper wants Troyzan out I like him again
p/BQYUTsGhBQB
reece(:
12-02-2017, 06:24 AM
OK Culpepper wants Troyzan out I like him again
p/BQYUTsGhBQB
and he wants Sandra/Cirie at the end <3
NEW KING!
reece(:
12-02-2017, 06:33 AM
Link for the other unblocked interviews in the OP
reece(:
12-02-2017, 06:36 AM
Brad naming Debbie, Sandra and Michaela straight away to work with
Don't let me down!
JerseyWins
12-02-2017, 06:41 AM
Is there an ET Canada interview for only 8 of them?
reece(:
12-02-2017, 06:46 AM
Is there an ET Canada interview for only 8 of them?
I thought they'd all be uploaded but they weren't (idk if there's 20 even though :joker:)
Sandra saying she'd return again for All Winners <3
JerseyWins
12-02-2017, 06:50 AM
Yes @ an all winners season :clap1:
reece(:
12-02-2017, 06:50 AM
Ozzy and Varner wanting to be friends with everyone :joker:
reece(:
12-02-2017, 06:58 AM
Zeke's whole interview is centered around "the game is changing"
Ciera who?
JerseyWins
12-02-2017, 07:22 AM
Official Pre-Season Cast Ranking:
1. Tony Vlachos
2. Malcolm Freberg
3. Cirie Fields
4. J.T. Thomas
5. Sandra Diaz-Twine (I was sleeping on her for a while; I did always like her a lot but she's become legendarily great over time)
6. Ozzy Lusth
7. Troyzan Robertson
8. Jeff Varner
9. Tai Trang
10. Caleb Reynolds
11. Ciera Eastin (not higher only because she did get a bit boring/tedious in Cambodia with the "voting blocs" and over-playing and the others are just too good)
12. Michaela Bradshaw
13. Zeke Smith
14. Andrea Boehlke
15. Sarah Lacina
16. Hali Ford
17. Aubry Bracco
18. Sierra Dawn-Thomas
19. Debbie Wanner
20. Brad Culpepper
JerseyWins
12-02-2017, 07:42 AM
Tony's teasers <3
Underground spy shack :love:
Clones
Someone idoled out without an idol :joker:
Screaming
I REALLY want to know wtf he's talking about with #2 & 3. :joker:
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Tony gets taken out first even. :worry: Although that would be kind of a disaster for production.
DrunkerThanMoses
12-02-2017, 10:28 AM
As long as Michella, Troyzan, Andrea and Hali are the first 4 boots it might be an okay season
reece(:
12-02-2017, 06:41 PM
Is there an ET Canada interview for only 8 of them?
More have been uploaded now
Watching Varner's :love:
EspeonBB
12-02-2017, 06:43 PM
This season will be cancelled if Sandra doesn't win
Black Dagger
12-02-2017, 06:49 PM
I don't need Malcolm in my life again. I really don't.
JerseyWins
12-02-2017, 07:30 PM
I don't need Malcolm in my life again. I really don't.
Me & the cat ladies do.
reece(:
12-02-2017, 07:41 PM
Malcolm wanting Debbie to be his Denise <3
he also suggested bro-ing up again though, which EW.
Macie Lightfoot
12-02-2017, 08:25 PM
Bold prediction: Brad Culpepper is gonna have the biggest glo up this season
Black Dagger
12-02-2017, 08:59 PM
Me & the cat ladies do.
Those hags can do one.
JerseyWins
13-02-2017, 03:28 AM
I watched the rest of the ET Canada interviews on ET Canada's website (idk why I didn't check sooner)... most of the best ones were already on youtube but one thing to note from the ones I haven't seen until just now:
Debbie wants to work with Brad & Tony. My #1 favorite and bottom 2 going into the season... :joker: It'll be interesting if that does become an alliance and I wonder how much it'll effect my opinion on Debbie & Brad if they help Tony get through. Tony & Debbie working together in particular could actually be hilarious.
Wow, I'm glad that Debbie's your #1 favourite going into the season
JerseyWins
13-02-2017, 03:55 AM
Wow, I'm glad that Debbie's your #1 favourite going into the season
http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar60738_69.gif
reece(:
13-02-2017, 05:40 AM
Apparently Russell tweeted about Sandra's weight then made his twitter private when she joined twitter
http://i.imgur.com/fUj2bvV.gif
JerseyWins
13-02-2017, 05:48 AM
Russell knows...
https://media.tenor.co/images/f5bc217821da14e0e0c3cbf6b98344ac/raw
JerseyWins
13-02-2017, 05:48 AM
Russell knows...
https://media.tenor.co/images/f5bc217821da14e0e0c3cbf6b98344ac/raw
VanessaFeltz.
13-02-2017, 07:24 AM
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he is scared omg
VanessaFeltz.
13-02-2017, 07:38 AM
I REALLY want to know wtf he's talking about with #2 & 3. :joker:
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Tony gets taken out first even. :worry: Although that would be kind of a disaster for production.
He will put his immunity idol into someones bag and then expose him in front of everyone. That person cant play the idol since it is not theirs and that person will voted out, idol will return to tony
Clones? I literally have no idea :joker:
reece(:
13-02-2017, 04:18 PM
The clones made he howl
JerseyWins
13-02-2017, 04:38 PM
He will put his immunity idol into someones bag and then expose him in front of everyone. That person cant play the idol since it is not theirs and that person will voted out, idol will return to tony
Ohhh that makes sense.
That sounds amazing and I hope it plays out. :joker:
Headie
13-02-2017, 05:02 PM
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I wish Nat was on this season </3
Braden
13-02-2017, 05:05 PM
Three of my favourite winners <3
Apparently, Natalie A pulled out because she had a concussion/migraine just before she was supposed to fly out :worry:
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...retweeted by Sandra :joker:
reece(:
13-02-2017, 10:58 PM
How is Sandra not a game changer yet he considers himself one :facepalm:
Apparently Caleb thought that because he's friends with Russell Hantz and Russell fed him loads of false information about Sandra in HvV? which lol
LemonJam
14-02-2017, 12:05 AM
aaaand **** like that is why Caleb is easily at the bottom of my pre-show ranking.
Yeah, he's dropping to the bottom of mine, especially with this grovelling apology tour he appears to be on now
Anyway, congrats to Troyzan for moving up a spot!
reece(:
14-02-2017, 12:45 AM
Troyzan ha rise :clap1:
(also Zeke, but... actually, I'll probably just keep him in the same place)
reece(:
14-02-2017, 01:17 AM
Caleb, Zeke and Troyzan the evil trinity!
JerseyWins
14-02-2017, 02:56 AM
Caleb :love:
Troyzan :love:
Zeke :love:
People are acting like saying "Sandra isn't a game changer" is a sin. And it is. But I see this as just some pre-season fun though. :clap1: It's exactly what Sandra would do as well and I'm surprised she hasn't blasted Caleb back (if she hasn't?). :joker:
Although I'm guessing Caleb is saying this because either:
1) He outlasted Sandra / Sandra was probably an early boot.
2) Caleb did really well so now he's kinda gloating in saying this.
OR maybe but unlikely
3) He's bitter due to getting outplayed/taken out by Sandra.
But I'm guessing it has to be #1 or #2 based on his confidence and Sandra's lack of response (unless she did respond and it wasn't posted). I'd definitely be pretty thrilled with reason #2 but I'm hoping to see Sandra for a while too.
reece(:
14-02-2017, 03:00 AM
These vids are all taken from before they played the game
JerseyWins
14-02-2017, 03:09 AM
Oh, I thought he tweeted something about Sandra not being a game changer and that's where this came from. It just started from that picture?
Sandra's already spending her third million wisely :clap1:
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Braden
15-02-2017, 07:28 PM
p/BQioOGzhXJJ
Most of the Mana tribe targeting Sandra as first boot:
https://31.media.tumblr.com/c8de11a62564af2effbd57e67e1f8f10/tumblr_inline_ngwh6wv4oN1ql9kqj.gif
reece(:
15-02-2017, 07:29 PM
Sandra Tony's first clone?
LukeB
16-02-2017, 07:18 PM
Pre-Show Rankings
1.Cirie
2.J.T
3.Sandra
4.Aubry
5.Tai
6.Caleb
7.Michaela
8.Zeke
9.Debbie
10.Tony
11.Jeff
12.Ozzy
13.Sarah
14.Sierra
15.Ciera
16.Brad
17.Hali
18.Andrea
19.Malcolm
20.Troyzan
Braden
16-02-2017, 07:21 PM
Cirie on who she'd vote out first:
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https://31.media.tumblr.com/c8de11a62564af2effbd57e67e1f8f10/tumblr_inline_ngwh6wv4oN1ql9kqj.gif
(No, but seriously, I understand this is the logical answer.)
I agree - eive somcone who a movee, Sandra!
JerseyWins
16-02-2017, 11:43 PM
This cast is so stacked that I could lose a few favorites right away at the beginning and not miss a beat due to having so many more that I can still root for.
Specifically, only Tony going early would be truly painful and that's more so because I think he can add so much more than ANYONE else in the cast if he sticks around with his shenanigans.. :joker:
Calderyon
17-02-2017, 11:33 AM
Wow, that was hard...
1. Tai
2. Zeke
3. Caleb
4. JT
5. Tony
6. Aubry
7. Malcolm
8. Jeff
9. Michaela
10. Hali
11. Andrea
12. Sarah
13. Sandra
14. Brad
15. Sierra
16. Ozzy
17. Debbie
18. Cirie
19. Troyzan
20. Ciera
Quoting myself from the other thread to save time.
VanessaFeltz.
17-02-2017, 08:08 PM
I was very excited for Debbie when the cast was revealed (she was my fave player from kaoh rong and i hate a meltdown when she was viciously blindsided lolol) after reading her interviews i hope she is the first one to go.
Yes before Brad or Troyzan
Will.
17-02-2017, 09:20 PM
Stage 7
Will suggesting that Pearl Islands was staged?
reece(:
17-02-2017, 11:42 PM
“The Stakes Have Been Raised” – It’s an epic showdown as two legends in SURVIVOR history set their sights on one another, on the two-hour season premiere of SURVIVOR, Wednesday, March 8 (8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Also, two castaways attempt to put their past behind them and start a new game while another castaway introduces the “spy shack” 2.0.
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Wow, I can't wait for Hali to introduce the Spy Shack 2.0!
VanessaFeltz.
18-02-2017, 07:22 AM
I just had a dream where Debbie tried to blindside Sandra in the first tribal council and got voted out instead 6-4 then Sandra got pissed at her, they started to argue and Sandra actually came over there and beat the **** out of her :laugh: D:
Then whole fanbase turned on her for getting violent (suprisingly she wasnt sent home for violence) and i was mourning her legency and i was her only fan left < 3
reece(:
18-02-2017, 10:26 AM
This mess
Caleb Reynolds (Kaoh Rong): Andrea is a threat to my game. I know how she plays. She’s a snake. When it comes to good looking men she thinks she can sink her claws in, and if she can’t sink them in good enough, she wants to send them home because they’re not sticking to her plan. I don’t like that. I’m one of the guys she’s going to go after. And when she gets that “no, I’m good” type of thing, she’s going to slam that door in my face and make up stuff to send me home.
LemonJam
18-02-2017, 11:28 AM
of all the other available candidates from Kaoh Rong or even the whole Survivor franchise just why Caleb? :\
Calderyon
18-02-2017, 12:48 PM
^ Jeff basically promised to him that he would get to return after he was evacuated.
Braden
18-02-2017, 08:05 PM
Screaming at Sierra's first boot choice/reason:
p/BQqYyEqBogb
JerseyWins
18-02-2017, 08:19 PM
I'm screaming too. For someone to take her OUT!
Macie Lightfoot
18-02-2017, 09:24 PM
I'm not even trying to be ironic when I say that Sierra Dawn Thomas is probably one of the people I'm more excited to see again?
reece(:
19-02-2017, 03:03 AM
Sierra can be kept if she enables evil again.
Macie Lightfoot
19-02-2017, 03:47 AM
but she was the likely winner if Mike didn't go on a challenge run? I'm not gonna fault her for trying to get to the end with assholes if her ultimate reason was bc she would beat them
JerseyWins
19-02-2017, 05:10 AM
Rodney wins if he makes it to the final 3 instead of Mike though. If you're saying she wins if there's an exact final 3 of Sierra, Carolyn & Will then I think Mama C probably beats Sierra too.
VanessaFeltz.
19-02-2017, 06:39 AM
Rodney wins if he makes it to the final 3 instead of Mike though. If you're saying she wins if there's an exact final 3 of Sierra, Carolyn & Will then I think Mama C probably beats Sierra too.
I dont think jury liked carolyn, she was highly underrated. Siera had a chance at beating any of will/dan/her and maybe rodney
But Shirin has said she would be her only vote to win
DouglasS
19-02-2017, 11:18 AM
I hope the flop people go first;
Who cares for Hali, Sierra, Brad, Troyzan, Sarah lol [if these guys make it to jury then this series is not game changers at all] - I don't like Malcolm/JT and not keen to see Ozzy for the fourth time, but at least they are memorable
Caleb should be given a chance as he was unfortunate last time
I really don't buy that she was keeping evil around to try and win, she doesnt' get that much credit. She was just a weak feeble player that was too scared to make moves and followed whatever was occuring regardless of who she was associated with. She's almost just as bad as those 3 guys imo - Thankgod for Mike, a true person who wouldn't stand and just agree with pricks
Braden
19-02-2017, 11:51 AM
The social aspect of the game is criminally underrated amongst Survivor fans.
Plus, what really constitutes a 'game-changer'? I don't think any of the players this season 'changed the game'. Richard Hatch is the only person who should be given that credit, and he's not playing :fist:
Macie Lightfoot
19-02-2017, 01:39 PM
Sierra had no reason to flip though lol. I totally understand being frustrated with it as a viewer, but the Mike/Joe/Jenn/Shirin/Hali group are better physical competitors and more likable and able to win a jury vote.
Headie
19-02-2017, 08:15 PM
Final 3 leaked:
https://68.media.tumblr.com/894d2b91b17697a561b9419be0e1afac/tumblr_olmztg1z0C1uc6xbco1_540.jpg
Probst's latest interview reveals that he had to be convinced by CBS to cast Ozzy, oops!
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Iconic :love:
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Also kind of iconic? Who knew Andrea could do humour?
Braden
22-02-2017, 10:49 PM
Incoming feud? Already iconic in Survivor lore.
Move over Alicia & Kimmi, Sandra & Russell, etc.
JerseyWins
22-02-2017, 10:50 PM
Lol @ Andrea :joker: :joker: :joker:
Richard Hatch is currently doing a Reddit AMA if that's anyone's sort of thing
reece(:
24-02-2017, 06:47 PM
First look at how the first immunity challenge will play out
http://xfn-blogs.xfinity.com/tv/2017/02/23/sneak-peek-first-survivor-game-changers-immunity-challenge/
reece(:
24-02-2017, 06:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/3MKFuyB.png
Braden
24-02-2017, 07:09 PM
:joker:
It has begun already. Who does she mean?
reece(:
24-02-2017, 07:25 PM
https://instagram.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/16789025_1227379973978376_8467940422528794624_n.jp g
I can't believe Michaela is targetting Sherea from Survivor: China
VanessaFeltz.
24-02-2017, 07:37 PM
Abi Maria is rooting for sandra < 3
reece(:
24-02-2017, 07:38 PM
Abi Maria is rooting for sandra < 3
Talent supports talent!
JerseyWins
25-02-2017, 12:01 AM
Omgggggg why is this taking so long?
I think aside from it being an All Star season with a bunch of my faves, I'm probably also overly impatient because I've stayed in a RTV (Big Brother/Survivor) mood throughout the entire "off-season" for the first time. Whereas normally I'll basically just forget about it for a while after BBUS ends. Now I've been dying to get to another season for a while. :fist:
reece(:
27-02-2017, 06:54 PM
Queen
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Calling her "Survivor RC" :love:
Considering how we all greatly value Jeff's opinions, here's his cast assessment:
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(also there are many, many hilarious "she voted out her mom"/Aubry-related memes based on the Oscars mistake out there, which I'm certain will not get stale ever)
JerseyWins
27-02-2017, 11:08 PM
3:09
Debbie: How bout dah
reece(:
28-02-2017, 02:33 AM
An angel
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reece(:
28-02-2017, 02:36 AM
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JerseyWins
28-02-2017, 03:06 AM
Hali is so sweet but pretty bland and was irrelevant at least based on her last edit. I think I could easily like her a lot though if she happens to become a bigger character.
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Partially annoying / partially funny. :joker: Essentially what I thought in Kaoh Rong and I'm hoping it's more of the funny less of the annoying this time. However, if she actually helps people like Tony & J.T. & hopefully Malcolm (who wants to work with her) make it through, then bring on Debbie regardless. :wavey:
reece(:
28-02-2017, 03:43 AM
http://image.prntscr.com/image/22fecbf29ff54196a249657c6572baad.png
http://image.prntscr.com/image/b28ebfc8c6c940f7a063288865737918.png
Braden
28-02-2017, 06:24 PM
http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/28/survivor-jeff-probst-game-changers-revote/
They're getting rid of the (tie) re-vote for Game Changers.
It seems to me that they're wanting a more likely chance of a rock-draw this season.
reece(:
28-02-2017, 06:41 PM
http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/28/survivor-jeff-probst-game-changers-revote/
They're getting rid of the (tie) re-vote for Game Changers.
It seems to me that they're wanting a more likely chance of a rock-draw this season.
Tragic
Headie
28-02-2017, 07:29 PM
RA_uiICIs8Q
reece(:
28-02-2017, 07:50 PM
Debbie and Andrea giving each other multiple friendly expressions is <3
Braden
28-02-2017, 08:11 PM
How does J. T. look so dirty already? :joker:
reece(:
28-02-2017, 08:37 PM
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JerseyWins
01-03-2017, 05:15 AM
BYE Troyzan, Jeff & Andrea
But lol @ Varner saying "cray" in 2017 (or 2016) and Andrea saying "bro" :joker:
JerseyWins
01-03-2017, 05:17 AM
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I'm guessing there's going to be a tribe that is split in the edit on who to eliminate first (or even both tribes being split).
Oh and this season is finally a week away :flutter:
Macie Lightfoot
01-03-2017, 05:22 AM
So there are apparently no revotes this season -- ties go straight to rocks.
In other news, Tai wants a gaylliance with Varner, Zeke and, er, Malcolm ("is Malcolm gay? He sounds so gay" - an actual Tai quote)
reece(:
01-03-2017, 11:44 PM
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Black Dagger
01-03-2017, 11:49 PM
In other news, Tai wants a gaylliance with Varner, Zeke and, er, Malcolm ("is Malcolm gay? He sounds so gay" - an actual Tai quote)
:joker:
reece(:
02-03-2017, 12:01 AM
For the Probst stans, mess at him saying Tai uses English as a second language to his advantage
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reece(:
02-03-2017, 12:07 AM
Let Michaela live
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reece(:
02-03-2017, 12:13 AM
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reece(:
02-03-2017, 12:14 AM
Sierra: Me and Troyzan are really close, I get along with guys anyway, better than girls, so I wanna work with guys
BYE
reece(:
02-03-2017, 12:54 AM
oop Jeff spilling Jimmy J's quit
reece(:
02-03-2017, 12:59 AM
"Here's the rule on going to the bathroom (on Survivor), if you go alone you're good but if you go with somebody the cameraman are coming"
Oop
Braden
02-03-2017, 01:00 AM
Come through with pre-show hype, Ms. Reece!
JerseyWins
02-03-2017, 05:51 AM
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I don't think I made a post about it but I was planning to... everything from :40 to 1:30 was exactly what I was thinking when I read there would be no re-vote. I'm excited to see how that might play out this season.
At least makes it more risky to do the split votes strategy to try to flush out an idol. They had to at least throw Tony a bone with this twist. :joker: Although it's not the biggest help in the world either.
Headie
03-03-2017, 08:01 AM
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Screaming
reece(:
03-03-2017, 04:49 PM
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"I love that Sandra was so fast to say yes that she literally texted "I don't care what it is - answer is yes"
"I love Cirie!"
Yas Jeff
Headie
03-03-2017, 11:42 PM
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Sandra at the end :joker:
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