30-Something

[Dr43%er]

Shall we talk about arses then?

[lily.]

Barry is rough as a badgers arze today... that's why Doc.. :wink:

[Mrluvaluva]

I feel ill

[lily.]

Barry, at the risk of upsetting you..

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA... serves you right, you drunken b@stard! LoL

[Dr43%er]

A heavy one last night then?

[Dr43%er]

What I would like to know is who was the first person to feel a badgers arse and to decide it was rough?

[lily.]

That is a good question indeed. Of course, the same question arises when it is stated that something "tastes like ****"...

[Dr43%er]

Hmmmm. I need to think of more of these. I need to know the answers?

[Dr43%er]

Happy as Larry. Who is this Larry and why is he so bloody happy?

[Mrluvaluva]

Back now peeps. (had to run....very quickly). What have I missed?

[Dr43%er]

Statements that don't make sense.

[lily.]

Not much, I was makin toast and jam.. and Doc was asking unanswerable questions..

[Mrluvaluva]

Who put the "ram" in the "ramalamadingdong"?

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by Stropz
I was makin toast and jam..


Mmmm. I need some.....

[lily.]

Come and get some...

And when we are done, I'll make you toast.. :wink:

[Mrluvaluva]

lol

[Dr43%er]

Who put the "ram" in the "ramalamadingdong"


The same person who put the "Bob" in the "Bobshuwobdawob" The sneaky bastard.

[lily.]

Ur showing ur age now doc.. :wink:

[Mrluvaluva]

I see you got a new avatar with an uck in it.

[lily.]

Aye, I'm sick of them stealing muh ucks.. I don't give a "****" let alone an "uck"

[Mrluvaluva]

I am sooooooo tired.

[lily.]

hahaha.. man, that amuses me so much. I knew you would be rough today, but I didn't think you would be QUITE this bad..

[Mrluvaluva]

I called for ralph earlier.

[lily.]

Yanno what.. there's been more disharmony in this site since nodisharmony joined than there ever was before. Ironic?

[lily.]

On the big white telephone Barry?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Stropz
Yanno what.. there's been more disharmony in this site since nodisharmony joined than there ever was before. Ironic?


I know. I really wish he would just go away, insrtead of causing all this trouble. I do not know what to do anymore. I tried to ignore him but lost my patience in the end. Maybe he is mentally unstable? Just a thought.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Stropz
Come and get some...

And when we are done, I'll make you toast.. :wink: Mucky cow. You can't stop yourself.

[lily.]

I know... are you coming up for some as well?..

[GiRTh]

Always?

[lily.]

heh.. good.. u will probably last longer than Barry anyway.. too much Voddie will have affected his staying power..... :tongue:

[Mrluvaluva]

I heard that!

[lily.]

Holy krap barry.. or should I call you Carrie?

[Mrluvaluva]

I have telekenesis. Did you not know?

[lily.]

Ut oh.. I'm flucked now then aren't I? ha ha..

anyway,, on that mystical note.. I shall be leaving you lovely people.. Try to stay out of trouble while I'm gone..

.. and try to stay out of the toilet Barry.. :thumbs:

lata.. x

[Mrluvaluva]

ha ha. later!

[Siouxsie]

evening all:bouncy:

[Mrluvaluva]

hiya Sioux

[Dr43%er]

How do.

[lily.]

Hi slags..

[Mrluvaluva]

Speak for yourself!

[lily.]

Was you and doc I was addressin actually :tongue:

[Dr43%er]

You know how to charm a man. Baz, do you think the background pic from Kinky Club would be ok for my on line presence here? Hows the head by the way?

[Mrluvaluva]

Better thanks. I don't think you should use it as there are some younger members on here. What do you think Linda?

[Dr43%er]

Good point. I am really not with it today. it's just that sometimes i feel sorry for the world not knowing just how god dam sexual I am.

[Mrluvaluva]

I am sure they are waiting with baited breath.

[Dr43%er]

I am sure they are.

[lily.]

Lmao@you two... I'm not sure the world is ready doc.. or at least TiBB.. although, it's not indecent, so there's really no harm in it. I guess the decision is urs!

[Mrluvaluva]

I am sure you would rather they were waiting with open legs.

[Dr43%er]

Anyway, How come you are not an there anymore Stropz?

[lily.]

I'm not sure I'm ready for the club yet Doc.. I guess I don't know you well enough yet... I will get back to you on that.. :wink:

[Dr43%er]

LOL. Typical woman. All talk. :whistle:

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Stropz
I'm not sure I'm ready for the club yet Doc.. I guess I don't know you well enough yet... I will get back to you on that.. :wink:
Me too...... I need some time..... and besides..... I have a few things on my mind that I need to concentrate on. All will become clear soon

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by kizwiz
Originally posted by Stropz
I'm not sure I'm ready for the club yet Doc.. I guess I don't know you well enough yet... I will get back to you on that.. :wink:
Me too...... I need some time..... and besides..... I have a few things on my mind that I need to concentrate on. All will become clear soon


ooh! keeping us in suspense are you?!

[lily.]

hola.. :xyxwave:

[lily.]

Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
Originally posted by kizwiz
Originally posted by Stropz
I'm not sure I'm ready for the club yet Doc.. I guess I don't know you well enough yet... I will get back to you on that.. :wink:
Me too...... I need some time..... and besides..... I have a few things on my mind that I need to concentrate on. All will become clear soon


ooh! keeping us in suspense are you?!

Not me.. then again, me and Kiz have a speshul bond.. :thumbs:

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva

ooh! keeping us in suspense are you?!
Sorry my lips are sealed.

I'm temping today at its so quiet in the office. I'm hopingt hings will pick up soon as I had being idel

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Stropz
Not me.. then again, me and Kiz have a speshul bond.. :thumbs:

Smoooooch

[lily.]

Yeah, it's a slow day when it's like that Kiz.

[~Kizwiz~]

I didnt sleep a wik last night and Im dead on my feet

[lily.]

Aww.. damn. that sucks. Hey, sign into myspace when you get a chance girl. :wink:

[~Kizwiz~]

I will try honey xxx

[GiRTh]

Why should she sign into mysapce? Is so that you two can have good chin wag.

[lily.]

No, there's something for her to look at in there.. and it's HOT! LoL

[~Kizwiz~]

Yes G.... but sadly that ip address is blocked on this network :o(

[lily.]

Oh well... it can wait til later ;-)

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Stropz
No, there's something for her to look at in there.. and it's HOT! LoL Can I have a look too.

[lily.]

Sure, if you have a myspace ID...

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Stropz
No, there's something for her to look at in there.. and it's HOT! LoL

Do not show Kiz that photo of me naked!

[~Kizwiz~]

I've already seen it :o)

[lily.]

Sorry Barry.. I couldn't resist,, oh, and BTW.. I will forgive you cuz you were rough yesterday, but I'm still waiting on something that was promised to me.. :whistle:

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
Originally posted by Stropz
No, there's something for her to look at in there.. and it's HOT! LoL

Do not show Kiz that photo of me naked! I've got to see this now:spin2:

[Dr43%er]

Dead on me feet too. When I got home i decided to watch Casino Royal and then The Big Labouski. Was about 4am when i hit my pit. I can't wait to see what you girls have planned.

[lily.]

Lmao... planned? us? innocent of all charges!

[Dr43%er]

Yeah, right.

[GiRTh]

Linda have you seen my latest Greys Anatomy post?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
Originally posted by Stropz
No, there's something for her to look at in there.. and it's HOT! LoL

Do not show Kiz that photo of me naked! I've got to see this now:spin2:

No!

[GiRTh]

Why not?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Stropz
Sorry Barry.. I couldn't resist,, oh, and BTW.. I will forgive you cuz you were rough yesterday, but I'm still waiting on something that was promised to me.. :whistle:


Yeah Yeah. I will try and get round to it today. Stop nagging me woman.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
I can't wait to see what you girls have planned.

Nothing planned honest!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
Originally posted by Stropz
Sorry Barry.. I couldn't resist,, oh, and BTW.. I will forgive you cuz you were rough yesterday, but I'm still waiting on something that was promised to me.. :whistle:


Yeah Yeah. I will try and get round to it today. Stop nagging me woman. Whats all this then?

[Mrluvaluva]

Never you mind.

[lily.]

haha.. I'm just about to go to the grey's anatomy post G... I have some bad news about muh GA forum as well.. :sad:

[GiRTh]

Just watch yourself with Linda. That's all.

[~Kizwiz~]

Yeay..... I have some work to do! :dance2:

[lily.]

:shocked: G!!!

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Just watch yourself with Linda. That's all.


Is she from the wrong side of town?

[lily.]

Originally posted by kizwiz
Yeay..... I have some work to do! :dance2:

lmao.. get to it woman! :tongue:

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by kizwiz
Yeay..... I have some work to do! :dance2:


So do I but I ain't doin it!

[lily.]

Perks of management Barry.

[lily.]

wake up!

[Mrluvaluva]

I'm here. You were on msn.

[Diablo]

:wavey: hello..

[lily.]

spidey lol

Yeah, get msn ffs.. :rolleyes:

[Mrluvaluva]

Hi Diablo

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Stropz
spidey lol

Yeah, get msn ffs.. :rolleyes:


What is so good about it?

[Diablo]

hello mrluva..

I dont get the MSN thing either.... :whistle:

[lily.]

Hey Laura..x

[Diablo]

hiya Linda.. Hows things.. I'm going to buy a new house.. :spin2: (once i find one) lol

[lily.]

woo...! Big moves afoot!! Whereabouts u looking?

[Diablo]

They way i'm feeling now, i'd go anywhere!! If I thought i'd get away with it, i would have my upstairs neighbour killed..
Gonna have to stay in Glasgow for my work though.. can't be arsed job hunting as well as house hunting and trying to plan a wedding.

[lily.]

yeah, i hear you!

[Mrluvaluva]

Evening Lindy

[lily.]

Hey Basildon Bond! x

[lily.]

FYI.. I HATE that avatar. it creeps me out!

[Mrluvaluva]

Oh shut up! Don't you like my ring piece? Have you noticed Geoff is still online?

[lily.]

Yeah, he's in MSN.

[Mrluvaluva]

You have brainwashed him into being an MSN freak!

[lily.]

Yup, i have that effect on people.

I gotta go for a bit.. BBL.. x

[Mrluvaluva]

k

[Sunny_01]

God I am bored - sitting looking like an eejit with a tin foil head waiting for my colour to be done *yawns*

[Mrluvaluva]

Lol Sunny

[Sunny_01]

Hows you doing? got its peaceful here at the minute :wavey:

[Red Moon]

Wait until tomorrow night

[Mrluvaluva]

Don't say that. If anything happens, we are all ignoring it. Well, most of us have agreed.

[Siouxsie]

evening all i just got out of bed

[Red Moon]

Have a good shag?

[Mrluvaluva]

lol

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
Don't say that. If anything happens, we are all ignoring it. Well, most of us have agreed.

When done.... great idea :thumbs:

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
Don't say that. If anything happens, we are all ignoring it. Well, most of us have agreed.

When done.... great idea :thumbs:


Well it will be on my part. In future, I will just click the report button.

[Siouxsie]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Have a good s**g?

no but had a good sleep

[lily.]

Me and Baz have a contest going actually, and there's a certain word that we can't say. The first one to say it loses. :laugh:

[Mrluvaluva]

No.....

oops!

Nearly!

[Siouxsie]

whats the word then linda

[Mrluvaluva]

Yeah Linda!

[lily.]

haha.. no chance!

[Mrluvaluva]

no what?

[Siouxsie]

thats not thr word lol

[Sunny_01]

I think it ends in a T and starts with an S it is a firm favourite of the Stroppy one :banana:

[Mrluvaluva]

Nope! That is not the word Sunny.

[Sunny_01]

hmm now that surprises me - is it something with a UK in and an FC??

[Mrluvaluva]

Nope

[Sunny_01]

how about yes being the word you are trying not to say?

[Mrluvaluva]

No.... Let's just see who loses first. It will most probably be me! lol

[Sunny_01]

lol well Stropz is a stubborn lady! (I use lady very broadly here lol)

[Mrluvaluva]

Lady! lol

[Siouxsie]

the word is mwahh

[Mrluvaluva]

Not at all. I would not tell you if it was. Even though hints have been dropped around the place. You will just have to wait and see who loses!

[Mrluvaluva]

Oi! Stropz!

[lily.]

Yeah babe.. ?

U lost the bet yet? :wink:

[Mrluvaluva]

not at all my lovely!

[lily.]

mwahahaha.. oh but u will...

[Siouxsie]

the word is sh--

[Diablo]

shephard??

:joker:

[Siouxsie]

no oooooooooooo
I was thinking sh-t

[lily.]

:xyxwave:

[Mrluvaluva]

ola

[lily.]

Hey Baz.. thank christ u changed that avvy! LoL ..

[Mrluvaluva]

Like my new one? Do you think it will scare?

[lily.]

Ur new one aint scary for me.. but I can't speak for everyone..

Nosssssssfffffferrrrrraaaaatuuuu... mwahahahahaha

Gawd, I'm rough.. I'm still sicky Baz.. :yuk:

[Mrluvaluva]

No better then? You been to the quacks?

[lily.]

No.. someone advised me to leave it alone and let it go away itself.. :rolleyes: :laugh:

Anyway, check ur U2U... I'm outta here.. x

[Mrluvaluva]

That's true. I did! Not working the huh? Laterzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

[Bells]

Do you still not have MSN? Or a sig?
Lol, methinks you like putting things off. (A lot like me in fact, but that's not the point).

[Mrluvaluva]

I tried to download MSN at home but I am on dial up and it was taking ages. I lack patience!

[Mrluvaluva]

Sig does not work either. I put the web page address in for the pic but it don't work?

[Bells]

LOL... I won't teach you for that scary thing. :bored:

[Mrluvaluva]

Not fair.

[Bells]

You have to put at either end of the URL I think. I use imageshack so I just paste the direct link straight onto it.

But yeah, that dog's a bit... not very nice.

[Mrluvaluva]

I'll try it.

[Mrluvaluva]

Cool. Too big?

[Bells]

I think it's OK. You could make it slightly smaller if you wanted but it should be fine.

[Mrluvaluva]

I'll have to find a good one. Thanks for that Ash.

[Bells]

You're welcome. :bigsmile:

[Mrluvaluva]

I quite like this one actually. What do you think?

[Bells]

Yeah I think that fits in best. :hugesmile:

Keep that one for now then.

[Mrluvaluva]

Cool

[Siouxsie]

^^^^^^^ who are they Mr luva luva ????

[Mrluvaluva]

My pets. Ranky & Stinky.

[Mrluvaluva]

I'm here!

[Dr43%er]

I'm not.

[Mrluvaluva]

What's up doc?

[Siouxsie]

Originally posted by MrLuvaLuva
What's up doc? good film

Barbara streisand

[Mrluvaluva]

I am the ressurection.

[Sunny_01]

you are the light and the salvation

Now I am on high alert to keep those pesky Under 30's out of here :tongue:

[Mrluvaluva]

We have a strict door policy. :joker:

[Sunny_01]

I wonder if we could hire a couple of burly bouncers to keep em out?

[Mrluvaluva]

Sorted

[Sunny_01]

Ah Baz you are just the main man, you have so far managed to make all my wishes come true today!! And they are hot hot hotties woop woop!!!

[Mrluvaluva]

Glad I could be of service. Where are the other thirty somethings then?

[Sunny_01]

who cares, there is you me and for my pleasure 2 hotties what more do we need??

[GiRTh]

Here's one.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Here's one.

Whoop Whoop

See Baz if you build it they will come :kiss:

[Mrluvaluva]

Welcome back G.

[GiRTh]

Thank you. How is everyone?

[Mrluvaluva]

I think we are all fine. How's yourself?

[Jackie]

Hello

[Sunny_01]

I am fine thanks G - oh isnt it lovely we have our own grown up place xxx

[GiRTh]

I'm good too. So happy to be back in the saddle. This place is like an old comfortable pair of shoes.

Hello Jackie.:xyxwave:

[Mrluvaluva]

Hi there Jackie.

[Jackie]

Hello Girth,hello baz.

Baz what are you doing here get back :laugh::laugh:

[GiRTh]

Come again. Where has Baz been?

[Sunny_01]

no where he is just so popular that they like him in other threads as well.

I am particularly naffed off at the minute, I have to write a piece about Critical thinking in the context of Supervision and can not get my head round how to start, now is that a grown up subject or WHAT|!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Critical thinking in the context of Supervision Come again? You might start by explaining what the hell it means.:whistle:

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Sunny_01
Critical thinking in the context of Supervision Come again? You might start by explaining what the hell it means.:whistle:

lol exactly. It's a very poluar social work way of working, its about having a fully informed, non- biased approach to the way you work. It kind of means that you ensure you have ALL the facts before jumping to conclusions. I have to write about it being intergrated into employee supervision to ensure the process is more transparent and fair. blah blah blah

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Sunny_01
Critical thinking in the context of Supervision Come again? You might start by explaining what the hell it means.:whistle:

lol exactly. It's a very poluar social work way of working, its about having a fully informed, non- biased approach to the way you work. It kind of means that you ensure you have ALL the facts before jumping to conclusions. I have to write about it being intergrated into employee supervision to ensure the process is more transparent and fair. blah blah blah Wake me up when you've finished!:whistle:

[Mrluvaluva]

I am here, there and everywhere Jackie. :joker:

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Sunny_01
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Sunny_01
Critical thinking in the context of Supervision Come again? You might start by explaining what the hell it means.:whistle:

lol exactly. It's a very poluar social work way of working, its about having a fully informed, non- biased approach to the way you work. It kind of means that you ensure you have ALL the facts before jumping to conclusions. I have to write about it being intergrated into employee supervision to ensure the process is more transparent and fair. blah blah blah Wake me up when you've finished!:whistle:

How very cheeky :joker:

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
How very cheeky :joker: Have you started yet?

[Mrluvaluva]

I bet you any money she hasn't.

[GiRTh]

Too right.

[Sunny_01]

How very very dare you both suggest I have not started, I have written the title and the rationale behind the report lol, thats about it though!!!!

[Mrluvaluva]

Knew it!

[GiRTh]

That's further than I thought you'd got.

[Mrluvaluva]

I bet the "rationale" bit is what she posted in this thread before and she has just copied and pasted it. :joker:

[~Kizwiz~]

My divorce settlement finally came through (only and year and a half I've had to wait)

So I splashed out and brought Red and I a nice Macbook each...... its lush

No more overheating for me :cheer2:

[Sunny_01]

YAY happy divorce Kiz!! are we having us a party to celebrate.

Baz how did you know thats what I had done with the rationale lol

Seriously it is doing my head in lol

[~Kizwiz~]

A party while 8 and a half months up the duff..... now theres a thought.

:cheer:

I am so chuffed I can now buy my lush pram..... yey

[Mrluvaluva]

Nice one Kiz. Where is the old mooner anyway? He never posts any more. Has he got his pipe and slippers on? Did you warm them for him?

And Sunny. "sings" "I know you sooo weeellll"!!!

[Sunny_01]

ah now that is nice news xxx a gorgeous new pram for a wonderful addition to the Moon clan.

Why you not up to a party, whats a belly between friends?

[~Kizwiz~]

a belly....... ha....... this is mammoth, I have been declared a family sized detached house :sad:

[Mrluvaluva]

Kiz would want a drink and we can't mention that!

[Sunny_01]

oh ok so no mentioning the lovely Voddie I am sipping with lemonade and lots of ice ok check will make sure not to mention it around Kiz!!!

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Kiz would want a drink and we can't mention that!

Too bloody right.... I am so needing a drink... anything...... I dont care.... but a margarita would be bloody lush

In fact..... I am gonna get some tequila and some triple sec in readiness of the day when I can have a tipple

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
oh ok so no mentioning the lovely Voddie I am sipping with lemonade and lots of ice ok check will make sure not to mention it around Kiz!!!

*humph*

(Sulks)

[Sunny_01]

Ah Kiz you know you will be sipping that drink before you know it hun!

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Ah Kiz you know you will be sipping that drink before you know it hun!

:wink:

LOL..... I cant wait to see her..... and be able to walk up the stairs without huffing and puffing.

[Sunny_01]

oh now that will be blissful, I soooo remember that feeling lol

Anyhoo I am off to get sorted, hubby and daughter are nearly home, they just been to pick up daughters pal who is here from Hull until Sunday then my Cherub is off to Hull until Thursday.

[Mrluvaluva]

I bet Kiz has a drink ready the mo she pops out!

See you later Sunny. Have a nice evening. x

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
I bet Kiz has a drink ready the mo she pops out!

See you later Sunny. Have a nice evening. x

lol...... no such luck.... if I am feeding I wont be able to..... plus diabetics cant get sloshed....only one or two otherwise you can hypo

Bugger

[Mrluvaluva]

That's a shame. I am watching a milky bar advert now. Where is mine by the way?

[~Kizwiz~]

Its in the post :laugh:

[Mrluvaluva]

"waits in anticipation" "hopes there is not a postal strike"

[~Kizwiz~]

I sent it registered.... so it should reach you in about a month

[Mrluvaluva]

That quick? The postal service has improved!

[~Kizwiz~]

maybe a little longer...... you might be lucky and it will arrive tomorrow..... but dont hold your breath

[Mrluvaluva]

"sharp intake of breath"

[Mrluvaluva]

"holds"

[Mrluvaluva]

"feints"

[~Kizwiz~]

I'd give up hope now matey....... dont count your chickens

[Mrluvaluva]

Call me an ambulance

[~Kizwiz~]

Its very quiet this evening

[Mrluvaluva]

"gasps for air" Is it? Well, there ain't many 30 somethings on here at the mo. Everyone else has been warned off by our doormen.

[~Kizwiz~]

lol.... I saw them.... bit bouncerish for my liking.

Mind you I have been known to have a go at them when I have been tiddled. I think I am invincible when I get ratted..... little me always trys and stands up to a big bloke.....*shakes head*

[Mrluvaluva]

I used to know a girl who wouldn't think twice about decking a bouncer.

[~Kizwiz~]

lol

I just try and square up to them....lol..... never gets me anywhere

Mind you, its been a while since I was rat as5ed

[Mrluvaluva]

I am on my way...................lol. "goes for the voddie"

[~Kizwiz~]

I am substituting my lack of alcohol with electronics..... thats sounds very dirty but it aint :spin2:

[Mrluvaluva]

is it battery powered?

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
is it battery powered?

It charges from the mains

[Mrluvaluva]

That could be dangerous! But I suppose better than your batteries running out half way through.

[~Kizwiz~]

lol...... right.... I'm off for a bath and then I need to take my tired self to bed

Speak tomorrow honey

[Mrluvaluva]

Nite hun. x

[Sunny_01]

morning old folk! how are you all this lovely day?

[GiRTh]

Morning Sunny:xyxwave:

I'm fine. Did you get your document written?

[Mrluvaluva]

Bet she's gone to do it.

[GiRTh]

I bet you she still hasn't started it.

[Mrluvaluva]

God it's slow on here today.

[~Kizwiz~]

Yup... very slow :sleep:

[GiRTh]

Aye. It's almost stopped.

[Mrluvaluva]

Did you notice the young people are jealous of our thread, so they have made their own? lol