View Full Version : Big Brother Canada 5 - Episode Discussion [Season Finished]
Jason.
19-05-2017, 09:58 PM
I still haven't watched Ika's eviction or the finale but given the outcome I don't know if I'll bother
DouglasS
19-05-2017, 11:07 PM
Bruno comes from the dumb ape way of thinking much alike Rachel Reilly
Where you're a 'floater' if you don't win competitions, and winning competitions is the sole and best gameplay/strategy of big brother and thats what makes a winner
Yet arguable the two best big brother players in History, Dr. Will and Danielle Reyes never won any competitions in their primary seasons and essentially won [and would have won regarding jury swap]......
Social game is what makes the big brother winner, and Kevin admitted that his sucked throughout the show and that he has little power. Also the way he used his power he admitted he sucked. He essentially won purely from immunity of wins, and did nothing for the other half of the game.
I think all Big Brother Fans will agree he was not a good 'player' - fair enough if you like him as a big brother houseguest though [Thats my opinion of Janelle in BB6, I don't believe she was the best 'player' but I loved her and wanted her to win.]
I truly think Demetres deserved to win and was UNARGUABLY [if anyone gives good arguments fair enough] the best player - he with Ika was the sole deciding vote of almost every eviction pre jury as he had ties with the other side of the hosue, and he was in The Six dominating. After Jury himself and Ika handpicked who went each week even if they were not in power they got their wish [ Got Sindy to evict Ika --- Got Kevin to evict Jackie --- I think it's undisputed Demika ruled the game and were clearly the best... The reason I say Demetres was the best was because he managed the jury which Ika did not.
Jason.
19-05-2017, 11:57 PM
The season recap at the finale :love: I forgot how great the first few weeks were
Jason.
20-05-2017, 12:34 AM
Ika vs. Neda during the roundtable :joker:
LemonJam
20-05-2017, 02:10 AM
Trash spawns trash. I dont care
Awful thing to say about your parents Riley. :\
I can't agree with the player dissing Kevin. Kevin played a great game. Players bring different skills to the table. Ika was a brilliant mastermind but that isn't enough to win the game. You have to be able to win comps. The last comps were winnable by women. Anyone who studied as hard as Kevin did would have aced the comps too. Ika does not strike me as unintelligent. She spent all her time smooching with Demetres and playing her social game which was amazing. Kevin spent his time studying. Two different approaches, and Kevin's approach won him 100K. Kevin also broke a North America record for run of comp wins to F2.
His style of game play may not be as amusing for live feeders but that is not what he was there for. He's a gamer. He was there to win as much as he could. He won 10K in one comp, I think another 1,000 during the all night buzzer game. And finally he won the 100K despite having made serious errors in his HoHs.
Kevin did what he had to do to win. Ika did not. Demetres did not. Kevin won as many comps as Demetres did. Kevin's jury management was as good as or better than Demetres given that even Dillon and Dre voted for him.
Ika is fabulous television. I hope she picks up an agent right away because I am sure she will get many offers for appearances and more. She would make a fantastic houseguest or visitor on BBs of other countries. Ika is a fantastic mastermind. Ika is great entertainment. Ika didn't study so she didn't win and Kevin did win because he did study.
starry
20-05-2017, 07:32 AM
Ika is as much a cliche as Gary or Nikki, and so feels more like an artificial construct as anything.
DouglasS
20-05-2017, 01:38 PM
I can't agree with the player dissing Kevin. Kevin played a great game. Players bring different skills to the table. Ika was a brilliant mastermind but that isn't enough to win the game. You have to be able to win comps. The last comps were winnable by women. Anyone who studied as hard as Kevin did would have aced the comps too. Ika does not strike me as unintelligent. She spent all her time smooching with Demetres and playing her social game which was amazing. Kevin spent his time studying. Two different approaches, and Kevin's approach won him 100K. Kevin also broke a North America record for run of comp wins to F2.
His style of game play may not be as amusing for live feeders but that is not what he was there for. He's a gamer. He was there to win as much as he could. He won 10K in one comp, I think another 1,000 during the all night buzzer game. And finally he won the 100K despite having made serious errors in his HoHs.
Kevin did what he had to do to win. Ika did not. Demetres did not. Kevin won as many comps as Demetres did. Kevin's jury management was as good as or better than Demetres given that even Dillon and Dre voted for him.
Ika is fabulous television. I hope she picks up an agent right away because I am sure she will get many offers for appearances and more. She would make a fantastic houseguest or visitor on BBs of other countries. Ika is a fantastic mastermind. Ika is great entertainment. Ika didn't study so she didn't win and Kevin did win because he did study.
All I see is 'win, win, win, he won, studied, win' - All competition based - like I said
I think Big Brother is about the social manipulation and social power/sway over people, and competitions were added to just give power to individuals.
I dont think having constant immunity for the second half means you're worthy of the title - you need to show those skills and manipulation and social sway, which Kevin did ultimately not have.
Dr. Will says hello [And Danielle, had jury been sequestered]
Jason.
20-05-2017, 02:43 PM
The best players are the ones who have a mix of comp wins, a good social game, strategy and manipulation...like the far superior poker player (and human being) Vanny Rousso
https://i.giphy.com/D9QsnWTxFKUi4.gif
Wizard.
20-05-2017, 02:47 PM
Awful thing to say about your parents Riley. :\
Shutup fish head.
Jason.
20-05-2017, 02:48 PM
Ika didn't need a HOH win to get her targets out of the house, whereas Kevin couldn't even get his two main targets out of the house with his HOH's until the Final 4 (where he pretty much had no choice)
DouglasS
20-05-2017, 03:07 PM
The best players are the ones who have a mix of comp wins, a good social game, strategy and manipulation...like the far superior poker player (and human being) Vanny Rousso
https://i.giphy.com/D9QsnWTxFKUi4.gif
A mix is definitely required now because people have started thinking like Rachel Reillly and Bruno where comps are SO important and if you don't win comps your a 'floater' -- which is not what that word even means.
The game has evolved that way and jury will not reward players who sadly haven't won competitions, which could be a reason why the winners have been skewed largely male;female as men typically have an advantage in physical comps - and Jury reward these comps more than they should.
However I do think a well rounded player has a mixture of all, and utilising the power correctly. Comp wins are great if you use them to your advantage and create bonds/alliances -- Which Kevin failed to do -- He also failed to ultise his power and instead saved his biggest competitiors.
Although I do think based on solely social game a player has the right to win [they may throw certain comps for instance], whereas winning on solely winning competitions and not even playing Big Brother can not warrant a deserving win.
I think Vanessa BBUS and Demetres are good examples of players who have been comp threats but because of their social prowess and manipulation have managed to convince people to not target them despite their obvious threats - something to be rewarded, they should have both won their season.
It's often the besr player comes third though, a single HOH competition determining the winner always makes it a 50;50 chance sadly.
idgi why is kevin so hated
starry
20-05-2017, 11:21 PM
The social manipulation part is a joke in vets v newbies seasons as the newbies tend to be starstruck. The Canadian version just copied the American one in doing that and like there it just didn't work. To give people credit for manipulating dumbos like Karen and Demetres is too much.
All I see is 'win, win, win, he won, studied, win' - All competition based - like I said
I think Big Brother is about the social manipulation and social power/sway over people, and competitions were added to just give power to individuals.
I dont think having constant immunity for the second half means you're worthy of the title - you need to show those skills and manipulation and social sway, which Kevin did ultimately not have.
Dr. Will says hello [And Danielle, had jury been sequestered]
The object of the game is to win 100K.
No one has ever won every comp from day one so social manipulation and social power/sway do count. Those are the parts of the game that interest me the most. My jaw dropped at how many different things she could say to different people and still keep track. Having said that, it is almost impossible to win BB without winning comps at the end. Don't most F2s include a goat?
I don't see how BB can be ALL about social game when social game can't produce a win. Ika NEEDED Demetres. Together, Ika and Demetres were a great player. Apart from each other neither would have lasted to F4. They carried each other. Nobody carried Kevin.
William used the veto because of Kevin's social game. Every single member of the jury gave Kevin their vote. All of them.
Many people have claimed the jury was bitter against Ika and Demetres. Well I guess their social game wasn't very good because even though Kevin got Dillon out Dillon wasn't bitter. William wasn't bitter even though Kevin didn't throw him a vote during the triple. Dre gave Kevin her vote even though she was super pissed at him and never trusted him during the game.
Having a great social game isn't just about being an excellent manipulator.
Ika is a mean girl and proud of it. That isn't something I respect. Brilliant as Ika's game was, I didn't like it. It was great television. Ika is the break-out star. She just didn't get there in a way that I respect.
Kevin made some mistakes that practically had me tearing my hair out but none of his mistakes were fatal. He won the game.
Because of Ika's mistakes she lost the game.
The better player is the one who manages to win the game despite their mistakes. That would be Kevin.
Guuki
21-05-2017, 08:54 AM
ELEC_wjmccw
JTM45
21-05-2017, 09:31 AM
Ika is as much a cliche as Gary or Nikki, and so feels more like an artificial construct as anything.
Spot-on Starry!
Between her own ''i'm a Queen'' declerations and the BB scripted storyline they gave her she wa this Seasons spoonfed 'star' (yaaaawwwn!!! :sleep:)
She's the very definition of an overrated BB houseguest.
starry
21-05-2017, 09:32 AM
Ika is the break-out star. She just didn't get there in a way that I respect.
She's always been hyped up by the production, that's how some of these reality stars are made (Nikki and Gary obvious cases too). It wouldn't surprise me if in that Karen fake task she was told to address Ika like she did. And the very hype around her made people accept the behaviour of her too, that's why we had Sindy making the ridiculous remark that people should accept Ika throwing shade on them as a badge of honour. People completely new to Ika would have just thrown her out the house. And of course she had vets giving her backing at the start too, and some of those newbie players, BB fans in the house buying into her hype, didn't play it straight at all.
Dillon most likely had one of the better social games.
I'm sad this season is no longer, was truly one of the greatest seasons of all time in the franchise. So many good players it was LIT
DrunkerThanMoses
21-05-2017, 10:36 AM
The object of the game is to win 100K.
No one has ever won every comp from day one so social manipulation and social power/sway do count. Those are the parts of the game that interest me the most. My jaw dropped at how many different things she could say to different people and still keep track. Having said that, it is almost impossible to win BB without winning comps at the end. Don't most F2s include a goat?
I don't see how BB can be ALL about social game when social game can't produce a win. Ika NEEDED Demetres. Together, Ika and Demetres were a great player. Apart from each other neither would have lasted to F4. They carried each other. Nobody carried Kevin.
William used the veto because of Kevin's social game. Every single member of the jury gave Kevin their vote. All of them.
Many people have claimed the jury was bitter against Ika and Demetres. Well I guess their social game wasn't very good because even though Kevin got Dillon out Dillon wasn't bitter. William wasn't bitter even though Kevin didn't throw him a vote during the triple. Dre gave Kevin her vote even though she was super pissed at him and never trusted him during the game.
Having a great social game isn't just about being an excellent manipulator.
Ika is a mean girl and proud of it. That isn't something I respect. Brilliant as Ika's game was, I didn't like it. It was great television. Ika is the break-out star. She just didn't get there in a way that I respect.
Kevin made some mistakes that practically had me tearing my hair out but none of his mistakes were fatal. He won the game.
Because of Ika's mistakes she lost the game.
The better player is the one who manages to win the game despite their mistakes. That would be Kevin.
:clap1: speaking a lot of sense here.
DrunkerThanMoses
21-05-2017, 10:38 AM
idgi why is kevin so hated
White and has a penis
Dominic
21-05-2017, 11:58 AM
idgi why is kevin so hated
Watch the season
Jason.
21-05-2017, 12:14 PM
White and has a penis
Yeah, that must be it
DouglasS
21-05-2017, 12:41 PM
I don't dislike Kevin at all - It's moreso I was rooting for Demetres so hard and really did believe he was deserving, that I was dissapointed with the result. He's a far superior winner to the Paq Bros [it's not even close].
Also far better than the last two BBUSA winners for me [Nicole/Steve].
I don't dislike Kevin at all - It's moreso I was rooting for Demetres so hard and really did believe he was deserving, that I was dissapointed with the result. He's a far superior winner to the Paq Bros [it's not even close].
Also far better than the last two BBUSA winners for me [Nicole/Steve].
Completely agree with this! Also I was a diehard Kevin fan but I can definitely agree that Demetres and Kevin were on par as the best players this season. Both kept their calm, won competitions, and made good relationships. The two best players of BBCAN5 and i'm sure Demetres will be back one day for his redemption story :D
The object of the game is to win 100K.
No one has ever won every comp from day one so social manipulation and social power/sway do count. Those are the parts of the game that interest me the most. My jaw dropped at how many different things she could say to different people and still keep track. Having said that, it is almost impossible to win BB without winning comps at the end. Don't most F2s include a goat?
I don't see how BB can be ALL about social game when social game can't produce a win. Ika NEEDED Demetres. Together, Ika and Demetres were a great player. Apart from each other neither would have lasted to F4. They carried each other. Nobody carried Kevin.
William used the veto because of Kevin's social game. Every single member of the jury gave Kevin their vote. All of them.
Many people have claimed the jury was bitter against Ika and Demetres. Well I guess their social game wasn't very good because even though Kevin got Dillon out Dillon wasn't bitter. William wasn't bitter even though Kevin didn't throw him a vote during the triple. Dre gave Kevin her vote even though she was super pissed at him and never trusted him during the game.
Having a great social game isn't just about being an excellent manipulator.
Ika is a mean girl and proud of it. That isn't something I respect. Brilliant as Ika's game was, I didn't like it. It was great television. Ika is the break-out star. She just didn't get there in a way that I respect.
Kevin made some mistakes that practically had me tearing my hair out but none of his mistakes were fatal. He won the game.
Because of Ika's mistakes she lost the game.
The better player is the one who manages to win the game despite their mistakes. That would be Kevin.
Completely agree, really well said. Ika was great at the manipulation portion of this game -- but really only up until Neda's eviction in my opinion. During and after Neda's eviction she became the cocky mean girl that Neda was painted as beforehand; it's almost like she took Neda's role. The way she treated Jackie alone to me deems her as a bad player - she was NEVER going to get Jackie's vote in a million years (someone who had no close bonds to any one other than Neda) so that's already a fatal flaw in Ika's game.
Agreed though, she was great, and up until Neda's eviction I definitely saw her as the best player of the series.
White and has a penis
It's so true, like why is Bruno hated when he literally didn't do anything wrong at all (nobody quote me by getting rid of the 'wrong', that would be hella basic).. but yeah Bruno was a lovely man and father - a true gent and gamer throughout yet he gets a lot of hate online. If Demetres wasn't working with Ika... i'm sure he would've gotten a LOT of hate as well, as he did in the beginning of the game!
Neda came 3rd and 11th
Ika came 4th and 12th
So Neda is the superior player statistically :clap1: #QueenstaysQueen
Headie
21-05-2017, 09:18 PM
Neda was not even safe for an hour lmao
Dominic
21-05-2017, 09:37 PM
Do statistics really matter if Neda had immunity for five weeks?
Jason.
21-05-2017, 09:40 PM
Entertainment/personality > gameplay
Ika wins.
Ika is the superior player when taking everything else into account however!
Ika, Cass and Gary are all on pretty much the same levels statistically :love:
LemonJam
21-05-2017, 09:54 PM
Re: Kevin hate his queerbaiting was just a big no-no for me. Otherwise he's just not very entertaining to me. After William left his entire thing was "I'm alone in this game" "I have to win this comp" and "I've been studying so hard" which is hardly riveting television unless you're a die-hard Kevin fan.
One of the only things I liked about Kevin was that he put respect on Ika Wong's name.
Dominic
21-05-2017, 09:58 PM
like why is Bruno hated when he literally didn't do anything wrong at all (nobody quote me by getting rid of the 'wrong', that would be hella basic).. but yeah Bruno was a lovely man and father - a true gent and gamer throughout yet he gets a lot of hate online. If Demetres wasn't working with Ika... i'm sure he would've gotten a LOT of hate as well, as he did in the beginning of the game!
Bruno was smug and self-righteous, Demetres wasn't.
Jason.
21-05-2017, 10:01 PM
I didn't even mind Kevin at first (I hadn't seen season 3 but he came across perfectly fine in the first week or two) then he fell into the background for the rest of the (highly entertaining) pre-jury and then came out after all his allies were culled consecutively whilst still managing to be dull, even with the forced underdog/lone wolf edit. So yeah, LJ summed it up perfectly.
JerseyWins
22-05-2017, 06:22 AM
White and has a penis
:joker: :joker: :joker:
Pass the tea
JerseyWins
22-05-2017, 06:30 AM
Kevin's end-game is when I truly started to get behind him as a character a lot more. Before that I more or less liked him for the people he was aligned with and maybe a moment here and there but found him kinda boring/basic overall. Kevin is great in the underdog role. Great thrill to end the season with that comp run. :dance:
Also, I gotta give credit where it's due, Ika had some Ikonic moments on the season so I kinda appreciated her by the end.
It's so true, like why is Bruno hated when he literally didn't do anything wrong at all (nobody quote me by getting rid of the 'wrong', that would be hella basic).. but yeah Bruno was a lovely man and father - a true gent and gamer throughout yet he gets a lot of hate online. If Demetres wasn't working with Ika... i'm sure he would've gotten a LOT of hate as well, as he did in the beginning of the game!
Yeah, you nailed it - Bruno's great. Sympathetic towards Neda for the treatment she got from Ika/Demetres & the crowd, very caring to everyone in the house... just an overall laid back and really good guy. :clap1:
Mandie
22-05-2017, 09:46 AM
My final thoughts:
I really dislike Neda after this season and it shocks me. I thought that after she left we would see a different side of her. I just feel like she thinks shes better than anyone else. I do agree with Arissa that Neda loves the game but for me she just leaves me cold.
Not a fan of Kevins. I just dont find him entertaining at all. But I will say he did win the game - as in it wasnt handed to him and he did everything right to secure that win.
If the final had come down to Karen and Demetres I would like to see how jury would have voted. Had they choose Karen then their comments about the most deserved player are crap. I like Karen but Demetres was a far superior player
I actually enjoyed Ika, while she never won a comp she did what was needed to stay in the house and was entertaining. Jackie was so boring and whiney all the time
I dont really have an issue with Bruno although I get hes not the most memorable. But I dont see a reason for the hate on him.
Overall I thought it was just an ok season. Had some of the players evicted first lasted longer I think it would have been much better. I also felt a lot of the episodes were filled with random stuff when some of the stuff in the live feeds should have been there.
I hope next season has either all vets or all newbies. IMO Neda getting that safety really was unfair - to both Neda and the newbies. I would have liked to see how the season would have played out otherwise.
reece(:
22-05-2017, 10:28 AM
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Do statistics really matter if Neda had immunity for five weeks?
Immunity did not save Neda at all during the first five weeks.
Sindy may have saved Neda week 1 by turning Karen's attention to the big guys.
Week 2 Demetres was the HoH. There was no way he would have targeted Neda. Big guys go after big guys and that is what Demetres did. He put up Dillon and Emily, backdoored Dallas. No way would he have wasted his HoH on Neda.
Week 3 Neda was HoH. She obviously wouldn't have put herself up regardless of whether or not she had immunity.
Week 4 was backwards week. The house would not have put up Neda at that point. Dre and Gary were put up. Gary was the target because he is a comp beast. Demetres as HoH evicted Gary.
Week 5 William was the first HoH and he wouldn't have put up Neda. He had no reason to.
Neda kept Neda safe those five weeks not her special immunity.
Macie Lightfoot
23-05-2017, 12:42 AM
I mean..... Neda was granted immunity for five weeks and decided to win a **** ton of comps and alienate most of the house to the point where she was evicted as soon as her immunity expired. I didn't think it needed to be explained but I think that's the point Hayden and Brenda were making.
Calderyon
23-05-2017, 12:49 AM
As much as i like Neda, I do think she should have just laid low for those 5 weeks instead of winning comps when she didnīt need to.
Kind of a Daniele Donato effect.
Jason.
23-05-2017, 01:11 AM
That immunity pass was a **** idea regardless of who got it, especially in a vet vs. newbie season where it was clearly done just so a vet (Neda) could get it.
Macie Lightfoot
23-05-2017, 02:58 AM
Re: Kevin hate his queerbaiting was just a big no-no for me. Otherwise he's just not very entertaining to me. After William left his entire thing was "I'm alone in this game" "I have to win this comp" and "I've been studying so hard" which is hardly riveting television unless you're a die-hard Kevin fan.
I think the queerbaiting is even ****tier when you remenver that BBCan3 came immediately following BB16 and Zankie :yuk:
That immunity pass was a **** idea regardless of who got it, especially in a vet vs. newbie season where it was clearly done just so a vet (Neda) could get it.
Yep it is officially the most unfair BBCAN twist of all time.. most unfair top three imo in regards to twists ruining a great player's game:
1. Nedas immunity BBCAN5
2. Brittnee's POV evicting Bruno BBCAN3
3. Topaz' nomination talks being exposed to everyone BBCAN1
In each occassion the potential winner of that season lost because of the twist, so annoying - the only bad thing about big brother Canada.
Yet Neda's immunity did nothing for her. The first week she didn't have immunity, that was during Karen's HoH. The next week Demetres was HoH and he was after big guys not Neda. Then she was HoH herself. another week was backwards week. There was not a single week that Neda was safe due to her immunity.
Macie Lightfoot
29-05-2017, 04:19 AM
I thought we went over this already, but...
I mean..... Neda was granted immunity for five weeks and decided to win a **** ton of comps and alienate most of the house to the point where she was evicted as soon as her immunity expired. I didn't think it needed to be explained but I think that's the point Hayden and Brenda were making.
JerseyWins
29-05-2017, 06:55 AM
But she used those weeks to take out the people who were most strongly against her... so it's not like she won a few comps (and influenced others' decisions in other weeks) for no reason.
But she used those weeks to take out the people who were most strongly against her... so it's not like she won a few comps (and influenced others' decisions in other weeks) for no reason.
Yes, but she would have been just as safe without the immunity. Winning the immunity didn't save her one single week.
The immunity was not her downfall either. She played poorly. She shouldn't have alienated Ika by showing anger at her over the Cass incident. That is what set Ika at her. Neda was so frustrated at Ika calling her an emotional player but Neda let her own emotions get the better of her.
Neda also failed to reel in Jackie sooner. After Cass and Dre betrayed her Jackie was a lost puppy. Neda should have worked harder on her personal relationship with Sindy. Neda's head was so far into the game that she failed to have any kind of personal relationship with anyone. She was so determined not to have another "Jon" that she left Sindy floating. Very early on it was obvious that there was Kevin and Bruno, Ika and Demetres, with Neda and Sindy "left over". Sindy saved Neda week one by deflecting Karen to take out big guys. Neda could have made an effort to get closer to William. Neda was game game game but missed one of the most important elements. Personal relationships. Kevin was tight with Bruno and William.
Week one doesn't count because it happens so fast the person voted out is just an easy target. But, after week one, everyone who left did so because they made a game mistake and that is true of every week beyond the first and it includes Ika and Demetres.
Kevin also made game mistakes, but when it counted the most, he didn't make mistakes. He won.
Also, Kevin didn't win those last comps by a hairs breath, he won them by a lot.
Demetres and Ika lost because they didn't study nearly enough. They knew how hard Kevin was studying. His winning the comps was a foreseeable consequence of his studying a lot and them not studying enough.
thinkin about watching this for ika? is it worth it ladies
http://i.imgur.com/5FyPLeA.gif
Jason.
01-06-2017, 08:32 PM
Absolutely!
She ends Neda too http://i.imgur.com/5FyPLeA.gif
any other good sisters ? without spoiling too much
Jason.
01-06-2017, 08:40 PM
Karen and Dre
(and Demetres can be a honorary woman I guess)
sounds promising
https://68.media.tumblr.com/f1f0bff886a0d90d8e8c90265a17da4f/tumblr_ntvww1y7oN1rpaylno6_250.gif
Dominic
01-06-2017, 08:54 PM
also cassandra!
Headie
01-06-2017, 09:19 PM
also cassandra!
:clap1:
And Sindy with an S!
reece(:
01-06-2017, 09:24 PM
Ika, Karen and Gary the trinity!
http://68.media.tumblr.com/202faa6396b40edbfb0e68caf029540b/tumblr_oo186zLOvG1u55c40o3_400.gif
Tregard
01-06-2017, 09:42 PM
Ika, Karen and Gary the trinity!
http://68.media.tumblr.com/202faa6396b40edbfb0e68caf029540b/tumblr_oo186zLOvG1u55c40o3_400.gif
I look forward to Gary & Karen's unstoppable alliance in the next All-Stars
JerseyWins
01-06-2017, 10:43 PM
Bruno, Dallas & Kevin the holy trinity.
Headie
01-06-2017, 10:46 PM
Ika, Gary, Karen, Cassandra, Sindy, Dre, Demetres >>>>> Everyone else
Jason.
01-06-2017, 10:56 PM
Bruno, Dallas & Kevin the holy trinity.
Have you been possessed by a demon?
JerseyWins
02-06-2017, 05:16 AM
Have you been possessed by a demon?
By that devil Karen Singbeil. :worship:
LemonJam
02-06-2017, 06:33 AM
Karen Gary and Dre >
Dominic
02-06-2017, 07:03 AM
Ok but Sindy kinda sucked this season
Headie
02-06-2017, 10:47 AM
Ok but Sindy kinda sucked this season
Sindy is a legend, robbed by an ogre!
JerseyWins
03-06-2017, 12:02 AM
Sindy was robbed by stupidity tbh. :(
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