Eurovision Grand Final 8pm BBC1 13/05/17 Portugal robbed Bulgaria

[LemonJam]

Woke up at 3am (in Aus) to watch this and now I'm drunk at 9am. UK did well and we got done so dirty by the jury :fist: Italy was my choice to win.

[Denver]

2nd year in a row Bulgaria were the best and lost out now that must hurt does for me

[MB.]

It would be career suicide

Speaking of career suicide, head over to Innocent's Twitter account to see the fallout of a global drinks company tweeting "you're dead to us, Ireland"

[Shaun]

Look guys the only crime tonight is that some country, somewhere, gave 5pts to Spain. We need to get to the bottom of this.


*it turns out to be Portugal and I have to cope with another wave of hate </3*

[EspeonBB]

Final results
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_vcFZlXsAAjTuy.jpg:large

Australia came top 10 despite only getting 2 points from the public :umm2:

[Denver]

Im over the moon at Italy flopping though

[Amy Jade]

His speech was tragic too, we all love a good trashy bop. **** off with your feelings

http://i.imgur.com/kWuLH5X.gif

I didn't like it anyway but yes his speech was BS. I want fireworks and crazy people dancing. Literally no idea why he applied, he clearly looked down his nose at the whole contest.

[Babayaro.]

Terrible winner lol. It wasn't emotional at all, just dull as **** and really average.

[EspeonBB]

Also the top 10 is all male apart from Belgium and the girl from Romania

[Denver]

Final results
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_vcFZlXsAAjTuy.jpg:large

Australia came top 10 despite only getting 2 points from the public :umm2:

Hurts so bad that Ireland and Malta would have got us top half

[Denver]

https://eurovision.tv/story/exclusive-results-semi-finals-2017

Ireland beat Macedonia

[LukeB]

We wouldn't though. Yes we might be able to get into the 200's based on Jury Votes if we are lucky but countries will still vote for their friends and politics will roll in.

i just came up with names that are good sellers and has loads of fans worldwide which could help us not to flop or do well in voting :skull: but ofc it's unrealistic of course because eurovision artist don't seem to be worldwide stars and i don't think they will be.

It would be career suicide

oh yeah i know :shame: one of Estonia's most famous artist entered but came 2nd on their selection show (i was looking at peoples rankings on youtube who said she was one of their biggest sellers)

[Denver]

Denmark just scrapped through

[MB.]

https://eurovision.tv/story/exclusive-results-semi-finals-2017

Ireland beat Macedonia

Europe cancelled!

[Shaun]

Anja joins a club of robbed goddesses :sad:

[Headie]

This was the most robbed song of the whole contest, not even making the final. How you gonna deliver power vocals and a 20-second note (of varying ranges) and still get eliminated?

NyKOBMAXFFA

[Denver]

The Juries didnt want Belgium in the final

[LukeB]

reactions of the past two winners have been divided...just like the united kingdom(who are not so united)

[Calderyon]

We did better than i expected.

[Braden]

They miss a trick not showing us the reactions of the countries that barely get any points from the televoters. The Australian guy must have been gutted after doing so well with the jury :joker:

[Headie]

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Lucie white-gal wasted?

[Calderyon]

San Marino got 1 point combined, 0 from the juries and only 1 from tele vote (Italy?). That´s got to sting.

[Denver]

UK Itunes chart

esctracker.com

#15 UK
#22 Belgium
#37 Moldova
#51 Portugal
#61 Bulgaria
#71 Norway
#93 Netherlands
#108 Croatia
#111 Italy
#122 Australia
#133 Romania
#187 Azerbaijan

[reece(:]

863521594106314752

Lucie white-gal wasted?

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bye

[joeysteele]

I'd have rather Bulgaria got it than Portugal but often the sedate song wins this contest.
I liked it all, good variety of songs and performances.
The

[T*]

Anja joins a club of robbed goddesses :sad:

P R E A C H

[Denver]

Telephone votes

6 Australia
4 Ireland
2 Malta

[Denver]

If you think the UK are bad then think of this

Germany won in 2010

The last 3 years they have came last twice and 2nd to last

[Withano]

If you think the UK are bad then think of this

Germany won in 2010

The last 3 years they have came last twice and 2nd to last

The big 5 are at a disadvantage imo

[reece(:]

If you think the UK are bad then think of this

Germany won in 2010

The last 3 years they have came last twice and 2nd to last

They need to send Lena again and they won't flop

[Braden]

It's quite sad that Israel won't be competing anymore, especially since they've participated for so long and contributed so much history to the contest <\3 I always expect to see that specific spokesperson as well, he must have done it for years.

...they should've milked it beforehand though, they might have got more votes :p

[MB.]

Are Israel definitely no longer competing or will another channel get EBU associate membership?

[MB.]

(or was that the only broadcaster in Israel... I'm not really sure)

[Denver]

The channel that wants Eurovision was rejected it because they dont have a news programme

[Denver]

If Israel's new broadcaster doesn't fulfil the requirements for ESC in time, this means we could see many North African and Eastern countries come to the contest.

At the moment, Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia are all eligible to participate in the contest but can't because of laws relating to Israeli content being broadcast.

[reece(:]

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this bop was a highlight of tonight.

[Braden]

San Marino received 1 point in the first semi-final :joker:

[Denver]

Ukraine got its worst ever result

[MB.]

But they managed to get their hosts laid, so in a way, they won too

[Denver]

Ireland Jury voted us 16th best and Malta 17

[Denver]

https://eurovision.tv/event/kyiv-2017/grand-final/voting-details/denmark

[Denver]

Bulgaria voted us 22nd

[Shaun]

Glad that little prepubescent toad lost now.

[EspeonBB]

Our televoting points were:
4 - Malta
4 - Ireland
3 - Australia
1 - Spain

[Denver]

Germany and France still bitter on Brexit? they both voted us 22nd in televote

[Shaun]

So we narrowly missed out on (ie finished 11th or 12th):

Jury Points
11th - Switzerland, Portugal, Croatia
12th - Sweden
13th - Montenegro (one of theirs put us first <3 another put us 22nd </3)

Televote Points
12th - San Marino, Greece
13th - Netherlands, Latvia, Finland, Denmark

Stunned at Malta's jury hating us.
Israel put us 25th out of 25 :joker: Enjoy your zero Eurovision coverage :xyxwave:
And the biggest contrast between public & jury I think is Germany. Juries put us 5th. Their public put us 22nd. Can't think why :think:

[Ross.]

It wont make top half

France: Alma "Requiem" 12th 135pts

Adam proven wrong!

[_Tom_]

UK Itunes chart

esctracker.com

#15 UK
#22 Belgium
#37 Moldova
#51 Portugal
#61 Bulgaria
#71 Norway
#93 Netherlands
#108 Croatia
#111 Italy
#122 Australia
#133 Romania
#187 Azerbaijan

Lmao @ Perfect Life charting at #14 in Nigeria. Scammers appreciating scammers?

[Ross.]

and yes I will now champion Alma until the end of time

[Headie]

Lmao @ Perfect Life charting at #14 in Nigeria. Scammers appreciating scammers?

They can't afford Titanium?

[Denver]

Adam proven wrong!
Snail eating twonks

[EspeonBB]

Adam proven wrong!

French queen came 10th in the public vote but the tasteless juries dragged her down :bored:

[Denver]

Mess at our jury putting Italy 22nd

[Denver]

We didnt kike Denmark

[Denver]

Our full televote for anyone interested

1. Bulgaria
2. Poland
3. Portugal
4. Romania
5. Moldova
6. Croatia
7. Sweden
8. Belgium
9. Italy
10. Hungary
11. Greece
12. Netherlands
13. Cyprus
14. Norway
15. France
16. Australia
17. Belarus
18. Austria
19. Israel
20. Azerbaijan
21. Armenia
22. Ukraine
23. Germany
24. Denmark
25. Spain

Our full jury vote

1. Portugal
2. Australia
3. Sweden
4. Bulgaria
5. Moldova
6. Belgium
7. Netherlands
8. Austria
9. Denmark
10. Belarus
11. Germany
12. Cyprus
13. Poland
14. Norway
15. Azerbaijan
16. Romania
17. Israel
18. Armenia
19. Spain
20. Italy
21. Ukraine
22. Greece
23. Croatia
24. Hungary
25. France

[Ross.]

French queen came 10th in the public vote but the tasteless juries dragged her down :bored:

Axe them all :bored:

[Denver]

Our full jury vote

25. France

-Looks to Ross-

[Ross.]

I think we can all agree that Macedonia were ROBBED at the semi finals

XvIbLOOWfYI

[Ross.]

Our full jury vote

25. France

-Looks to Ross-

I am disgusted at the UK involving politics in Eurovision!

[VanessaFeltz.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xuXacvCeqc This is portugal winning lol

[Nicky91]

Romania 7th :cheer2: :cheer2: i was so proud of being a team yodel it fan, and last night after their performance i was in tears of joy seeing them so happy on stage


Portugal is a deserved winner i think congrats to every portugal fan :)

[starry]

It's quite sad that Israel won't be competing anymore, especially since they've participated for so long and contributed so much history to the contest <\3 I always expect to see that specific spokesperson as well, he must have done it for years.

...they should've milked it beforehand though, they might have got more votes :p

Israeli eurovision was his own personal fiefdom he controlled it, so I wasn't that happy with that anyway.

And the reason they are closing down is because of the Israeli goverment and their desire to control the news. So if their leaving means less politics I'm happy enough.

[lewis111]

I'm glad our public supported Moldova and Romania, the two clear winners of the night

[Nicky91]

I'm glad our public supported Moldova and Romania, the two clear winners of the night

yeah i am glad UK loves the fun acts, Graham Norton also really likes Yodel It :hee:

[y.winter]

So basically the Israeli spokesman has misled Europe.
In addition to what starry said, there's a lot of corruption in the IBA and the latest political moves of Netanyahu and his disgraceful party.
Basically shutting down the IBA is a great decision - it's an archaic, irrelevant, notorious, hardly-viewed broadcaster, known for its waste of public money and non-proportional salaries. Netanyahu himself made the (right) decision to shut it down.
It should have been replaced by a new broadcaster made from scratch called Kann (כאן), which is already a promising relevant and fresh alternative. It was due to happen on January this year.
But then Netanyhau felt that Kann are starting to show left-wing signs: the news desk has been working on a story about something really fishy related to him; the designated news anchor is the wife of his political rival (from the same party). So he dragged the parliament to a vote in which they have delayed the change of broadcasters to April 1st (with the Minister of Culture notoriously saying "what's the use in a public broadcast if we can't control it?").
By April Netanyahu suddenly decided to make a U-turn after a meetup with the IBA's workers has allegedly convinced him that it's wrong to fire them and leave dozens of families jobless. So he made a deal with the minister of treasury to separate Kann from its news department and merge it with the IBA's personnel. That way, the current head of news department will be fired (and presumably the news anchor as well and all the "lefties" of Kann).
So IBA has been shut down last week with less than a 30 minutes notice (but that's a whole new disgusting story), with the exception of Eurovision (which they were committed to broadcast). Kann is starting to broadcast tomorrow afternoon.
The IBA does stop broadcasting the Eurovision, but Kann is set to replace it. The only issue right now is that the news department will be separated from the broadcaster, which is against the EBU rules, but they'll figure it out (+ we're waiting to hear from the supreme court, which might rule out Netanyahu's move). From what I understand, Israel won't be able to broadcast the world cup either because of the same issue. So... as we say in Israel, it's a big balagan. This country is going politically bankrupt one step at a time.
It's all very disgusting and shameful, to say the least.

[Denver]

I'm glad our public supported Moldova and Romania, the two clear winners of the night

I agree they voted for Real winners Bulgaria as there favourite

[Amy Jade]

Israel can go after they put us at the bottom. Won't miss them :hee:

[Denver]

Israel can go after they put us at the bottom. Won't miss them :hee:

Ireland and Malta stabbed us in the back and put us 18th and 20th.

But some jury members within Estonia, Azerbaijan and Armenia voted us top

[Nicky91]

Israel i love them at eurovision :(

[Denver]

Stolen from DS Forum

Ukraine's jury ranked Bulgaria 3rd in the Semi-Final and then after the news broke that Kristian visited Crimea (whilst still a minor and BEFORE it became against the law) the Ukraine jury then buried him 22nd in the Final.

[Denver]

Ex contestant marks for the UK

Getter Jaani (Estonia 2011)-1
Kejsi Tola (Albania 2009) -2
Nelly Ciobanu (Moldova 2009)- 3
Mihai (Romania 2006)- 6
Magdalena Tul (Poland 2011)-9
Hayko (Armenia 2007)-9
Axel Hirsoux (Belgium 2014)- 11
Molly Sterling (Ireland 2015)-12
Michael Von der Heide (Switzerland 2010)-15
Paula Selling (Romania 2010)-16
Cezar (Romaia 2013)-16
Nicole (Germany 1982)- 16
Chiara (Malta 2009 etc)-16
Luminita Anghel(Romania 2005)-18
Teo (Belarus 2014)- 22

[Denver]

Rockerfeller Street remains one of my faves

[Niamh.]

I only just flicked over at the end, I love that winning song

[Nicky91]

aw Adam liking many romanian acts :flutter:

[Denver]

aw Adam liking many romanian acts :flutter:

Oh no they were juries

[Nicky91]

Oh no they were juries

Ilinca & Adam, sounds like that could be a cute couple :hee:

[Braden]

Ranking the last twenty winners:

Diva, Dana International (1998)
Love Shine a Light, Katrina and the Waves (1997)
My Number One, Elena Paparizou (2005)
Wild Dances, Ruslana (2004)
Everyway That I Can, Sertab Erener (2003)
Fly on the Wings of Love, Olsen Brothers (2000)
Rise Like a Phoenix, Conchita Wurst (2014)
Molitva, Marija Šerifović (2007)
Hard Rock Hallelujah, Lordi (2006)
Euphoria, Loreen (2012)
1944, Jamala (2016)
Amar Pelos Dois, Salvador Sobral (2017)
Believe, Dima Bilan (2008)
Heroes, Måns Zelmerlöw (2015)
Take Me to Your Heaven, Charlotte Nilsson (1999)
Fairytale, Alexander Rybak (2009)
Only Teardrops, Emmelie de Forest (2013)
Everybody, Tanel Padar & Dave Benton (2001)
Satellite, Lena (2010)
I Wanna, Marie N (2002)
Running Scared, Eldar & Nigar (2011)

[Nicky91]

for me my top 5 winners from last 20 years

1. Conchita Wurst - Rise Like a Phoenix, even though it robbed my country of victory with our calm after the storm

2. Elena Paparizou - My Number One, loved that song, i predicted this to win and it won

3. Eldar & Nigar - Running Scared, i predicted it to win, and i was proven right :D

4. Emmelie De Forest - Only Teardrops, love love loved this song immediate winner vibes i got from this song in their semi final they were in

5. Dima Bilan - Believe, it was just magical and powerful wow

[Vanessa]

I'm catching up on this. Some great songs, but also some stinkers. :laugh: prefer when the acs sing in their own languages. It feels more authentic to me.

[Vanessa]

Volare, oh oh. Cantare, oh oh oh oh. Nel blu dipinto Di blu. Felice Di stare lassu.:love:

[Vanessa]

Like Portugal song, but for me it's way too slow for Eurovision. I prefer something more upbeat. But the guy can sing, no question about it. He is amazing.

[Shaun]

I forgot how awful the 2001 and 2002 winners were.

[jet]

Like Portugal song, but for me it's way too slow for Eurovision. I prefer something more upbeat. But the guy can sing, no question about it. He is amazing.

I loved it from the first moment I heard it and backed it to win way back when it was 14/1. I'm a few hundred richer. :cheer2:

[Braden]

I forgot how awful the 2001 and 2002 winners were.

They're so far detached from the Eurovision canon, for me :laugh:

[Denver]

Everybody is iconic so shut your gobs

[Braden]

I still can't get over San Marino getting 1 point between the juries and televoters :joker:

[Vanessa]

I still can't get over San Marino getting 1 point between the juries and televoters :joker:

Poor Spain, coming last as we lol :laugh:

[Vanessa]

I loved it from the first moment I heard it and backed it to win way back when it was 14/1. I'm a few hundred richer. :cheer2:

Glad Italy did well. Wasn't expecting 6th place. That's really good! At least the Portugal song was different and not the usual ballad. Lol And the singer was great.

[Shaun]

The only songs in today's chart update:

#41 - Lucie Jones (UK)
#54 - Salvador Sobral (Portugal)
#61 - Blanche (Belgium)


...that's it

[Denver]

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