Manchester Arena Terror Attack - 22 innocent lives taken.

[Headie]

It just irritates me when ive seen hundreds of similar messages only caring about her.

It was a sad night for everyone in the arena and the families who lost people,

think they should focus on everyones experience not hers

FYI, everyone's experiences INCLUDES hers.

[Denver]

FYI, everyone's experiences INCLUDES hers.

thats why said it she should be treated as an equal a normal person not a celebrity.

I support her decision to postpone her tour as nobody should have to go through that.

[Amy Jade]

Disgusted that people on here think their is sone sort of uniformity or pecking order on who we should sympathise for.

Take a ****ing look at yourselves.

[Cal.]

wrong. your moral relativism is nonsense...you may as well say those watching on tv suffered as much as those who died, its bat crazy

the people injured or killed suffered the most
those close relatives of their suffered too

It's laughable you try and bring this up also considering your desperation to make this senseless tragedy suit your political agenda. People are allowed to extend their thoughts to Ariana Grande as well as the 22 angels - there's no disputing how incredibly awful she must be feeling. People are NOT allowed, however, to try and use this horrific event to their advantage like you have attempted to do today.

[the truth]

It's laughable you try and bring this up also considering your desperation to make this senseless tragedy suit your political agenda. People are allowed to extend their thoughts to Ariana Grande as well as the 22 angels - there's no disputing how incredibly awful she must be feeling. People are NOT allowed, however, to try and use this horrific event to their advantage like you have attempted to do today.

oh yea Ive gained a lot from it? whata sick comment and of course 100% untrue

[the truth]

Disgusted that people on here think their is sone sort of uniformity or pecking order on who we should sympathise for.

Take a ****ing look at yourselves.

take at look at yourself , there is a pecking order, the dead and the injured should get our 100% sympathy and attention , not passers by or pop stars

[Denver]

On a different note was it only me who felt useless today? i just got the feeling all day that i wanted to help but i am so far away i cant do anything

[the truth]

On a different note was it only me who felt useless today? i just got the feeling all day that i wanted to help but i am so far away i cant do anything

yes I know what you mean it would have been nice to somehow help
the cabbies did a good job as well as the emergency services

[Withano]

She should be the last person on anyones mind she got out alive 22 others didnt

I've pretty much agreed with you throughout the thread, not here though. Ariana must feel devastated, and might feel partly responsible. I completely feel for her.

[Denver]

I've pretty much agreed with you throughout the thread, not here though. Ariana must feel devastated, and might feel partly responsible. I completely feel for her.

I dont mean it as like nobody should care about her just be grateful that she is alive and hopefully getting help when some people are not lucky some mothers dont even know if there child is dead or alive

[Josy]

Can we just stop with the arguing and insults in here. Seriously get some perspective!

[Josy]

Next person to ignore that warning I posted is banned

[arista]

https://d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/v6I14TjRVqJZVG23rg1H_metro%202405.JPG

[arista]

https://d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/ZqDI6j9wR52jYvyBTG71_front24.jpg

[reece(:]

Look at my posts throughout this thread. My friend Jessica was at the concert with her cousin, their safety was my very first thought and since I have been active on twitter sharing images of those still unaccounted for.

Now look at yours. You've used a tragedy to try and push your political arguments. You should be throughly ashamed of your disgusting behaviour. You are repulsive.

:clap1: I hope your friends are alright.

[Amy Jade]

Breaks my heart seeing her little face :(

[Deirdre]

Sun has a picture of attacker
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3624815/manchester-arena-attacker-salman-abedi-theresa-may/?CMP=Spklr-_-Editorial-_-TheSun-_-News-_-FBLink-_-Statement-_-FBPAGE

Frequent trips to Syria gone unnoticed apparently.

[the truth]

Sun has a picture of attacker
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3624815/manchester-arena-attacker-salman-abedi-theresa-may/?CMP=Spklr-_-Editorial-_-TheSun-_-News-_-FBLink-_-Statement-_-FBPAGE

Frequent trips to Syria gone unnoticed apparently.

yep he was a regular back and forth to the middle east , easily done thanks to our open borders and liberal attitude

[Amy Jade]

:clap1: I hope your friends are alright.

They were fine thankfully, they aren't familiar with Manchester and ended up in an office building but after seeing on twitter a lot of kids were at the Premier Inn we told her to go there. Apparently the staff were amazing and looked after them until my friends mum could get to pick them up

[smudgie]

Surely we all have big enough hearts to have sympathy for all.
The people that died, their friends and families, all the people who attended the concert who will be severely traumatised for heaven knows how long, for the poor lass that is thinking about shelving her career because she feels a guilt that she shouldn't. For anybody wrongly facing repercussions because they may share the same faith as the scum that carried out the atrocity.
For the whole country, who will have a less rosy outlook on our safe lives now.
Sympathy, like love can't be measured in egg cups, we are all capable to give river loads of it.

[Amy Jade]

Surely we all have big enough hearts to have sympathy for all.
The people that died, their friends and families, all the people who attended the concert who will be severely traumatised for heaven knows how long, for the poor lass that is thinking about shelving her career because she feels a guilt that she shouldn't. For anybody wrongly facing repercussions because they may share the same faith as the scum that carried out the atrocity.
For the whole country, who will have a less rosy outlook on our safe lives now.
Sympathy, like love can't be measured in egg cups, we are all capable to give river loads of it.

I agree completely :love:

[the truth]

Surely we all have big enough hearts to have sympathy for all.
The people that died, their friends and families, all the people who attended the concert who will be severely traumatised for heaven knows how long, for the poor lass that is thinking about shelving her career because she feels a guilt that she shouldn't. For anybody wrongly facing repercussions because they may share the same faith as the scum that carried out the atrocity.
For the whole country, who will have a less rosy outlook on our safe lives now.
Sympathy, like love can't be measured in egg cups, we are all capable to give river loads of it.

of course sympathy for alll, but special attention, focus, energy and even money is needed for those victims and their families

[Kizzy]

of course sympathy for alll, but special attention, focus, energy and even money is needed for those victims and their families

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslims-raise-money-manchester-suicide-bombing-explosion-salman-abedi-a7752256.html

[RichardG]

i'm watching bbc news, there's parents trying to find their missing children. i don't understand? how can they just disappear? correct me if i am wrong but i don't think the arena collapsed, they could not be hidden and trapped under rubble. and given the attention the event has garnered, wandering children who look lost would surely be approached by a member of public to ask if they need help?

[Denver]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslims-raise-money-manchester-suicide-bombing-explosion-salman-abedi-a7752256.html

Tbh doesnt matter whether they are Muslim or not so dont know why the big headline its just shows there are a lot of big hearts with in the UK who will do what they can to help

[Denver]

i'm watching bbc news, there's parents trying to find their missing children. i don't understand? how can they just disappear? correct me if i am wrong but i don't think the arena collapsed, they could not be hidden and trapped under rubble. and given the attention the event has garnered, wandering children who look lost would surely be approached by a member of public to ask if they need help?

Some children may be unable to be identified at this time if they are dead or it is possible they ran and got lost

[the truth]

i'm watching bbc news, there's parents trying to find their missing children. i don't understand? how can they just disappear? correct me if i am wrong but i don't think the arena collapsed, they could not be hidden and trapped under rubble. and given the attention the event has garnered, wandering children who look lost would surely be approached by a member of public to ask if they need help?

that is crazy, lets all pray they can be found

[Shaun]

i'm watching bbc news, there's parents trying to find their missing children. i don't understand? how can they just disappear? correct me if i am wrong but i don't think the arena collapsed, they could not be hidden and trapped under rubble. and given the attention the event has garnered, wandering children who look lost would surely be approached by a member of public to ask if they need help?

I want to be wrong but I think there's a good deal of time spent in making bodies look at least somewhat presentable before the time comes for asking the families to identify them. I can't imagine how soul-crushing that job would be.

[Denver]

I want to be wrong but I think there's a good deal of time spent in making bodies look at least somewhat presentable before the time comes for asking the families to identify them. I can't imagine how soul-crushing that job would be.

It would be bad enough identifying a body as it is but if they body is severely danged with limbs missing i dont know how the parents can cope

[Northern Monkey]

would it not be destroyed in the explosion?

You'd think so but if they can find a terrorists passport under the rubble of one of the twin towers then who knows?

[Amy Jade]

I want to be wrong but I think there's a good deal of time spent in making bodies look at least somewhat presentable before the time comes for asking the families to identify them. I can't imagine how soul-crushing that job would be.

This is true.

With the bomb being nail one the injuries will be very bad. If homeless people were helping the injured by pulling nails out of surviving childrens faces imagine how badly damaged someone could be if they took the full blast :(

[the truth]

It would be bad enough identifying a body as it is but if they body is severely danged with limbs missing i dont know how the parents can cope

too horrific for words

[Toy Soldier]

You'd think so but if they can find a terrorists passport under the rubble of one of the twin towers then who knows?

Yes that is a real thing that happened in real life.

[Glenn.]

Is the 22 dead, innocent victims or does that number include the scum that did it.

[Denver]

the 4th confirmed victim is a young girl who although the age was not given suggested she was in primary school

[DouglasS]

Mothers, Alison Howe and Lisa Lees have been confirmed as two of the victims as well, waiting to collect their daughters

[Withano]

https://lovinmanchester.com/news/buildings-worldwide-are-being-lit-in-red-white-and-blue-for-manchester

Countries all over the world lighting their landmarks red, white, and blue. And its beautiful.

[Wizard.]

3 new confirmed dead.

Kelly Brewster, 32 shielding her neice from the blast
Alison Howe and Lisa Lees who were parents waiting for their kids

Alison and Lisa were among the missing so it's looking like the missing are dead.

[reece(:]

Wow noble of Kelly :(

[Jack_]

It breaks my heart, but there's only two explanations for the missing. Either they simply cannot be identified, or they're receiving treatment but haven't had their families contacted.

[Brillopad]

:rolleyes:

You missed the very relevant 'past generations' point clever clogs. One's family history and religous culture are more significant than place of birth which actually means very little.

[Jordan.]

3 new confirmed dead.

Kelly Brewster, 32 shielding her neice from the blast
Alison Howe and Lisa Lees who were parents waiting for their kids

Alison and Lisa were among the missing so it's looking like the missing are dead.

So sad to think of those kids in distress and expecting their parents to be waiting for them and never finding them.

[Denver]

Courtney Boyle also thought to be dead but the french girl is thought to have been found

[Denver]

A freind of Olivia Cambell has said she has died

[Wizard.]

Olivia Campbell, aged 15 years old, has died. RIP

[Jack_]

You missed the very relevant 'past generations' point clever clogs. One's family history and religous culture are more significant than place of birth which actually means very little.

Oh, so his entire family - whom fled terror themselves - are now all to blame too? They're all jihadists? Right, got you.

[Denver]

I hate to say it but sadly i think those still missing have died

[Braden]

I've read reports that a man was arrested at the Birmingham vigil today, and that he was armed with a baseball bat and a knife. This is just awful.

[Brillopad]

Oh, so his entire family - whom fled terror themselves - are now all to blame too? They're all jihadists? Right, got you.

Words in mouth again, you like doing that don't you.

No I said that without immigration bringing previous generations here we wouldn't have the current generation of jihadists being born here. They weren't created by the fairies.

And how do you know the circumstances of why their families came here - fleeing terror is not the only reason people are coming here as we are seeing all over Europe at the moment. Many more economic migrants than genuine refugees.

[Marsh.]

Words in mouth again, you like doing that don't you.

No I said that without immigration bringing previous generations here we wouldn't have the current generation of jihadists being born here. They weren't created by the fairies.

And how do you know the circumstances of why their families came here - fleeing terror is not the only reason people are coming here as we are seeing all over Europe at the moment. Many more economic migrants than genuine refugees.

But this is still using the assumption that he is the way he is because his parentage must be the same. That's not always the case.

[Jack_]

Words in mouth again, you like doing that don't you.

No I said that without immigration bringing previous generations here we wouldn't have the current generation of jihadists being born here. They weren't created by the fairies.

And how do you know the circumstances of why their families came here - fleeing terror is not the only reason people are coming here as we are seeing all over Europe at the moment. Many more economic migrants than genuine refugees.

I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth, you made a statement which implied his family history needed to be taken into consideration when evaluating what led to his radicalisation, and I asked if that's what you meant.

Your second point contradicts everything else you say though, because if they aren't born here then they are (according to you at least) coming over here in mass droves? I do hope you're also aware it's perfectly possible for a Brit with native parents to become radicalised. There are many more influential factors in such a process than one's family history.

On the last point:

Born in 1994, the second youngest of four children, Abedi’s parents were Libyan refugees who fled to the UK to escape Gaddafi.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/

[Denver]

Olivia's mum Charlotte has confirmed she has died my heart breaks for her especially after the interview this morning

[the truth]

I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth, you made a statement which implied his family history needed to be taken into consideration when evaluating what led to his radicalisation, and I asked if that's what you meant.

Your second point contradicts everything else you say though, because if they aren't born here then they are (according to you at least) coming over here in mass droves? I do hope you're also aware it's perfectly possible for a Brit with native parents to become radicalised. There are many more influential factors in such a process than one's family history.

On the last point:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/23/salman-abedi-named-manchester-suicide-bomber-know/
The problem is open borders

[Jack_]

The problem is open borders

...but he, and the Westminster attacker, were born in Britain :conf:

[Amy Jade]

...but he, and the Westminster attacker, were born in Britain :conf:

There is no reasoning with him.

[jaxie]

i'm watching bbc news, there's parents trying to find their missing children. i don't understand? how can they just disappear? correct me if i am wrong but i don't think the arena collapsed, they could not be hidden and trapped under rubble. and given the attention the event has garnered, wandering children who look lost would surely be approached by a member of public to ask if they need help?

It was an explosion, it may take time for remains to be identified. A child wouldn't necessarily be carrying ID, they wouldn't have a driver's license.

[Pete.]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4534898/Aisleyne-Horgan-offers-pay-terror-attack-funerals.html

Aisleyne :love:

[jaxie]

Can we just stop with the arguing and insults in here. Seriously get some perspective!

Seconded.

[Shaun]

Hard to keep up hope for the missing... have been refreshing my feed nonstop for news of someone I followed on Twitter and I don't even know him personally :/

[Nicky91]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4534898/Aisleyne-Horgan-offers-pay-terror-attack-funerals.html

Aisleyne :love:

how sweet of her :hug: :love:, i just can't see miss Georgina Cantwell spending her money for something like this :hehe:

[Brillopad]

...but he, and the Westminster attacker, were born in Britain :conf:

Of Immigrants. People born into and who have grown up in Western society don't just suddenly turn in these numbers. It demonstrates something much more intrinsic at work. The power of culture and religion runs much deeper than place of birth. Their sense of identity is clearly not with The West. We have simply enabled homegrown terrorism.

[Withano]

Of Immigrants. People born into and who have grown up in Western society don't just suddenly turn in these numbers. It demonstrates something much more intrinsic at work. The power of culture and religion runs much deeper than place of birth. Their sense of identity is not with The West.

A poor education imo. ISIS coverts many muslims, and non-muslims into extremists. I don't think the reasons why will ever make sense to us, but I do believe the vunerable are targeted.

[AnnieK]

So sad waking up to more victims being named and so many still unaccounted for.

[Nicky91]

So sad waking up to more victims being named and so many still unaccounted for.

same :(

[chuff me dizzy]

https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderEmerickJones/videos/1647356301958517/?autoplay_reason=all_page_organic_allowed&video_container_type=0&video_creator_product_type=0&app_id=273465416184080&live_video_guests=0

Watch this esp from 3 mins 50 ,SO true !!!

[Nicky91]

https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderEmerickJones/videos/1647356301958517/?autoplay_reason=all_page_organic_allowed&video_container_type=0&video_creator_product_type=0&app_id=273465416184080&live_video_guests=0

Watch this esp from 3 mins 50 ,SO true !!!

why all these videos, i really can't watch it, too shocking for me and with these videos we're giving ISIS the attention they want :yuk: :rolleyes:

[thesheriff443]

Terrorism is not a new thing, its been around for many years.
This country was at war with the ira who blew up woman an children out shopping.
The west started fighting terror groups in other countries so in turn made themselves a target.

Good people come in all colours and races, unfortunately bad people come as well.
The world is at war with terrorist's, freedom comes at a price.

[Kazanne]

why all these videos, i really can't watch it, too shocking for me and with these videos we're giving ISIS the attention they want :yuk: :rolleyes:

I dont think it hurts to watch them and see other peoples lifestyles cultures and beliefs,if you dont watch them ,you dont know that they are shocking,they maybe informative Nicky.who knows we might actually learn something,cant turn a blind eye all the time.

[Nicky91]

I dont think it hurts to watch them and see other peoples lifestyles cultures and beliefs,if you dont watch them ,you dont know that they are shocking,they maybe informative Nicky.who knows we might actually learn something,cant turn a blind eye all the time.

you've got a point Kaz :)

[Strictly Jake]

It all seemed so much harder to get my head around waking up this morning I was hoping it was just a really bad nightmare and then seconds after waking up remembering it wasnt

Can't stop crying about it it's truly awful and everyone is being strong and united which is great but I think it's important that we also find time to grieve

There is a lot of fear in the UK right now and it's so difficult to hear about


One thing I can't get my head around is it didn't take too long for the killer to be identified and surely he was blown to bits which makes me think did police know about this guy before this happened was he being watched as a potential terrorist and how long do they have to watch them for before they act? Until they blow themselves up as well as lots of innocent people something seems a bit off to me that they knew who he was quite quickly or did they get a tip off and whoever gave this tip off why did they not sound a warning sooner

[the truth]

...but he, and the Westminster attacker, were born in Britain :conf:

irrelevant they all cross borders to get training radicalisation weapons etc as you have been told many times

[the truth]

There is no reasoning with him.

read my answers where your norm is irrelevant open borders makes it easier for terrorists

[Niamh.]

irrelevant they all cross borders to get training radicalisation weapons etc as you have been told many times

read my answers where your norm is irrelevant open borders makes it easier for terrorists

This thread is more appropriate for that discussion, lets try to keep this thread about the victims etc

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319207&page=4

[Denver]

Parents Marcin and Angelika Klis confirmed to have died in Manchester terror attack

[Shaun]

Hard to keep up hope for the missing... have been refreshing my feed nonstop for news of someone I followed on Twitter and I don't even know him personally :/

Just been confirmed as one of the victims. RIP Martyn Hett :(

[Niamh.]

Just been confirmed as one of the victims. RIP Martyn Hett :(

aw sorry Shaun :(

[Denver]

3 more men arrested over the attack

[Braden]

I kept seeing Martyn all over my Twitter. I found out his sister was the one trying to spread the message that he was missing. How awful.

RIP to him and all those who have lost their lives.

[Smithy]

Just been confirmed as one of the victims. RIP Martyn Hett :(

Saw this as well, never even spoke to him but I teared up when I saw :(

[Denver]

The man arrested yesterday was the attackers brother

[Denver]

BREAKING NEWS

Bomber thought to have been a mule using device built by somebody else

[smudgie]

The terrorist was a mule, so there could well be more of this on the way.

[Niamh.]

BREAKING NEWS

Bomber thought to have been a mule using device built by somebody else

Can you imagine the type of brain washing that goes into convincing a person to blow themselves up like that, it's literally crazy s**t :/

[Nicky91]

who was Martyn Hett then :(

[Beso]

Can you imagine the type of brain washing that goes into convincing a person to blow themselves up like that, it's literally crazy s**t :/

Doesnt take that much at all if they are your kids and you have been priming them from day one.

[Niamh.]

Doesnt take that much at all if they are your kids and you have been priming them from day one.

I doubt any of the main guys use their own kids or themselves either

[AnnieK]

Just been confirmed as one of the victims. RIP Martyn Hett :(

He was a close friend of a girl who worked for me. She is devastated - said he was one of the nicest people she had ever met.

[Beso]

Do you blame the parents of every murderer then?

No. Just the ones whos family have produced them to be used as soldiers in their jihadi ways.

[Nicky91]

He was a close friend of a girl who worked for me. She is devastated - said he was one of the nicest people she had ever met.

aw so sad to hear :(

[Denver]

Sadly 14 year old Nell Jones has been confirmed dead

[Nicky91]

Sadly 14 year old Nell Jones has been confirmed dead

gone way too soon :bawling:

[Niamh.]

Sadly 14 year old Nell Jones has been confirmed dead

Another really young girl, so sad :(

[Withano]

No. Just the ones whos family have produced them to be used as soldiers in their jihadi ways.

I honestly struggle to believe this happens. Do you have a source. I've never heard of a case where the parents converts their own child to extremism. It's usually a peer, no?

[Babayaro.]

867314001583235072

This is heartbreaking :sad:

[Nicky91]

:bawling: :bawling:

[reece(:]

Just been confirmed as one of the victims. RIP Martyn Hett :(
I read he was about to go on his dream tour of America for 2 months too. :(

[Beso]

Are you implying that was the case here with zero evidence, why else bring it up?

Im implying it happens..

Perhaps yes, in this case it could be the case..and of course people give up their kids for the cause..time you people woke up to just how deep this **** goes...anyone with the ideals of isis will see it as a duty to provide children for the cause.

[Natalie.]

Just been confirmed as one of the victims. RIP Martyn Hett :(

Same here, follow him on twitter, never spoke but he seemed so lovely and funny.
I had been refreshing twitter constantly. RIP to Martyn :(

[DouglasS]

It's not looking good for those missing - Feeling really bad for their families

[Denver]

I have seen a few posts on twitter to say that the hospital are desperately looking for food donations for the families of those injured especially the ones with critical ill children who they cant leave

[Amy Jade]

Just been confirmed as one of the victims. RIP Martyn Hett :(

So sad, he was so lovely chatted to him a bit on twitter about Coronation Street.

Such a funny guy RIP :(

[Niamh.]

I heard on the radio that Ariana Grande has said she wants to pay for all the funerals of those who died. That's a nice gesture

[Denver]

I heard on the radio that Ariana Grande has said she wants to pay for all the funerals of those who died. That's a nice gesture

Sweet girl

[Denver]

The police have confirmed All victims have been identified and families are aware

[Shaun]

I was saying to Firewire yesterday - I know it's silly to concentrate on the super beloved popstar who escaped totally unhurt in all of this but I can't imagine how guilty she must feel. I know I'd be plagued by thoughts like "they wouldn't have been here tonight if it wasn't for me" if I were in her position, even if such thoughts are of course ridiculous and she's in no way to blame. It's just not something that could ever be resolved for someone in her position, and this event will likely be associated with her name for the rest of her life.

Of course, like I said, silly to think it in context of the hundreds of family members and friends who've actually lost someone on Monday night let alone the scores injured.

[jaxie]

I honestly struggle to believe this happens. Do you have a source. I've never heard of a case where the parents converts their own child to extremism. It's usually a peer, no?

There was actually a documentary I saw about this not too long ago. I think it was on the Beeb but I can't really remember. It was about some of the muslim kids who have run off to Syria and looked a bit closely at their families and fathers views.

[Denver]

An off duty female police officer was amongst the dead

[Niamh.]

I was saying to Firewire yesterday - I know it's silly to concentrate on the super beloved popstar who escaped totally unhurt in all of this but I can't imagine how guilty she must feel. I know I'd be plagued by thoughts like "they wouldn't have been here tonight if it wasn't for me" if I were in her position, even if such thoughts are of course ridiculous and she's in no way to blame. It's just not something that could ever be resolved for someone in her position, and this event will likely be associated with her name for the rest of her life.

Of course, like I said, silly to think it in context of the hundreds of family members and friends who've actually lost someone on Monday night let alone the scores injured.

It's not a competition, you can feel bad for her as well as the victims in the crowd too

[Denver]

The bombers father had apparent links to a terrorist group in Libya 20 years back

[AnnieK]

It's not a competition, you can feel bad for her as well as the victims in the crowd too

I agree....everyone there will have been affected by what happened. Obviously some more than others but I do agree with Shaun when he said she will have a lot of guilt (obviously unfounded). I do feel for her

[Jordan.]

Obviously doesn't change anything but it's quite nice to see One Last Time has gone top 5 on itunes in solidarity to the victims / all affected :love:

[Denver]

Obviously doesn't change anything but it's quite nice to see One Last Time has gone top 5 on itunes in solidarity to the victims / all affected :love:

It be nice to get a charity version of the song with a few star names to generate a lot of money for the families

[Denver]

Michelle Kiss has now also been named dead :kiss:

[Denver]

It is looking likely all those missing are sadly died

[Nicky91]

It is looking likely all those missing are sadly died

omg so sad :(

[Amy Jade]

I heard on the radio that Ariana Grande has said she wants to pay for all the funerals of those who died. That's a nice gesture

Very kind of her :love:

[Withano]

867314001583235072

This is heartbreaking :sad:

I love this, but did you share it because its a nice story about Manchester, or because somebody in the story was a victim?

Edit: just seen, thats so sad, he seemed like a brilliant man

[*mazedsalv**]

Awful, they say 22 dead, but a lot are missing and a lot still being treated so it will go up.

[Amy Jade]

14 year old Laura MacIntyre has been traced to a hospital in Manchester after being on the missing list.

She's said to be 'seriously ill' and her friend Eilidh MacLeod is still missing

Come on girl, pull through :(

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/missing-scottish-teen-laura-macintyre-10485733.amp

[Tom4784]

I heard on the radio that Ariana Grande has said she wants to pay for all the funerals of those who died. That's a nice gesture

It's a lovely gesture, it won't change what happened and it probably won't ease the (truly undeserved) guilt she'll feel over it all but it'll make things slightly easier on families of the victims financially.

I also heard her mother helped a bunch of children get out by taking them back stage. I've got a lot of respect for both of them.

[Denver]

It's a lovely gesture, it won't change what happened and it probably won't ease the (truly undeserved) guilt she'll feel over it all but it'll make things slightly easier on families of the victims financially.

I also heard her mother helped a bunch of children get out by taking them back stage. I've got a lot of respect for both of them.

I heard her mum was dragging people on stage to help which is a brave thing to do

[Wizard.]

Father of the suicide bomber Salman Abedi claims his son is innocent.

[Beso]

Father of the suicide bomber Salman Abedi claims his son is innocent.

Ask the **** which bit!

[Denver]

Father of the suicide bomber Salman Abedi claims his son is innocent.

Well he is a Terrorist himself

[Denver]

Someone who wasnt declared missing has died which means the death tally dont add up or one of the missing has not been found dead

[lewis111]

Father of the suicide bomber Salman Abedi claims his son is innocent.

I was confused when reading about this
I know his other son has been arrested so wasn't sure if he meant him or the person confirmed as the bomber because if it was the latter that's a disgusting comment to make and all he should do is apologise and send his respects to the victims families (he should do that anyway to be fair idk if he did or not)

[Denver]

Manchester Mosque are on BBC news paying there respects with minute silence then a statement

[Black Dagger]

Martyn's death has hit me the hardest. Such a funny, kind hearted guy. Would always see him in Stockport.

[Brillopad]

I was confused when reading about this
I know his other son has been arrested so wasn't sure if he meant him or the person confirmed as the bomber because if it was the latter that's a disgusting comment to make and all he should do is apologise and send his respects to the victims families (he should do that anyway to be fair idk if he did or not)

TBH I don't think the families would want to hear any apologies from him right now and certainly not until we all know if the family are in any way implicated in the bomber's crimes.

[Denver]

Can we not give his father time of day when it came out he was part of a Libyan terrorist group

[Amy Jade]

I heard her mum was dragging people on stage to help which is a brave thing to do

Heard this too, she and some staff members took distressed kids with them backstage.

[AnnieK]

Bomb maker still believed to be at large:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-arena-bomb-maker-search-13086027

[Denver]

Heard this too, she and some staff members took distressed kids with them backstage.

My hat goes off to her and everyone who risked there lives because everyones first thought as horrible as it is would be to save themselves but it takes a true hero to risk there lives to help people when they need it the most

[arista]

Sadly one of Dead is serving Police Officer Lady
her husband is wounded in hospital.


[A female off-duty police officer
was killed while at the concert
with her family,
Greater Manchester police has confirmed.
She was with her husband,
who remains critically ill,
and two children, who were
injured.Greater Manchester
chief constable Ian Hopkins,
who did not name her,
said: "Very sadly I can confirm
one of the victims is a serving police officer."]

[Amy Jade]

Martyn's death has hit me the hardest. Such a funny, kind hearted guy. Would always see him in Stockport.

Hope you're ok, he seemed so lovely I hope they dedicate Corrie to him tonight x

[Denver]

Labour will restart their campaign tomorrow :umm2:

[Braden]

With all the awful news lately, I at least found love from this story:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/mum-homeless-man-who-looked-13081856

Bless him.

[Denver]

A community worker phoned the police 5 years ago to tell them the bomber was radicalised but was not followed up

[Braden]

I honestly don't understand how these people walk the streets of our country. It always appears that they have dangerous links and are said to be on some sort of list, but then they end up causing destruction regardless.

[reece(:]

Bomb maker still believed to be at large:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-arena-bomb-maker-search-13086027
Frightening :worry:
Labour will restart their campaign tomorrow :umm2:
Sadly the world has to go on? They've paid respects for a few days which is fair imo.

[Denver]

Frightening :worry:

Sadly the world has to go on? They've paid respects for a few days which is fair imo.

All parties should wait till monday tbh

[Wizard.]

All parties should wait till monday tbh

I agree I mean we have to not let them win but at the same time these are different circumstances with the bomb maker at large and a wider network and also the terror threat being raised to critical.

[arista]

With all the awful news lately, I at least found love from this story:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/mum-homeless-man-who-looked-13081856

Bless him.

Yes he looked rough
was on ITN ITV1HD news
and CNN USA

[arista]

Labour will restart their campaign tomorrow :umm2:

only in local areas

[Denver]

Brother of bomber arrested in Libya

[Scarlett.]

RIP Martyn :(

[Denver]

5th person arrested in the UK

[Denver]

Sorrel Leczkowski, 14, named as victim of Manchester terror attack

[Beso]

A community worker phoned the police 5 years ago to tell them the bomber was radicalised but was not followed up

:smug:

[lewis111]

I didn't expect so many of the victims to be so young but I guess that's who was targeted :(

[Denver]

Father Mr Abedi fled Tripoli in 1993 after Muammar Gaddafi's security forces issued an arrest warrant for him, eventually seeking asylum in Britain.

He has returned to his home country and is the administrative manager of the Central Security force in Tripoli.

But a former Libyan security official has claimed the elder Abedi was himself once a member of an armed group later revealed to have links to al-Qaeda.

Abdel-Basit Haroun said today that he personally knew the former refugee who he claims was a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) in the 1990s.

[Denver]

The 5th man arrested was a white British convert

[Denver]

CORONATION Street will pay tribute to the victims of the Manchester terror attack in tonight’s episode.

The soap – which is based in the city – will honour the 22 innocent people, including iconic Coronation Street superfan Martyn Hett, who lost their lives with a message at the end of the episode.

[Daniel-X]

The fifth suspect is from Wigan, I saw the police vans and stuff at the end of my friends street. It's really really scary, he was carrying a 'suspicious package' too :worry:

[Daniel-X]

CORONATION Street will pay tribute to the victims of the Manchester terror attack in tonight’s episode.

The soap – which is based in the city – will honour the 22 innocent people, including iconic Coronation Street superfan Martyn Hett, who lost their lives with a message at the end of the episode.

:love:

So much good in the world still

[Daniel-X]

A memorial tree is outside college now Georgina, and Saffie's mum and dad ran a chip shop in Leyland where my college is, me and my friend walked past it getting off the train today and it was so beautiful to see so many people laying flowers and paying their respects.

Honestly, still so much beautiful people in the world :love:

[Amy Jade]

CORONATION Street will pay tribute to the victims of the Manchester terror attack in tonight’s episode.

The soap – which is based in the city – will honour the 22 innocent people, including iconic Coronation Street superfan Martyn Hett, who lost their lives with a message at the end of the episode.

So glad to hear this, Martyn was a huge, huge fan of the show it's beautiful they're honouring his memory and others x

[arista]

Brother of bomber arrested in Libya


Yes and now the father arrested in Libya

[Denver]

Brother and father of bomber arrested in Libya over possible attempt at terrorist attack in Tripoli

[lewis111]

Understany it's finally been announced that Ariana is cancelling some of her tour, including her preformances tonight and tomorrow in London
A little part of me was acctually expecting her to preform but it's totally understandable why she decided to take a bit of time off, both for her and the safety of her fans

[Denver]

Makes me sick that his father says he is innocent but what do you expect from Terrorists

[Denver]

2 more arrests 1 in Nuneaton and 1 in Warwickshire

[Denver]

Also Libya said they have been watching his younger brother for over a month and knew his plans

[Mystic Mock]

I didn't expect so many of the victims to be so young but I guess that's who was targeted :(

Ariana Grande has a big kid fanbase and I'm assuming that the terrorists knew this.

They really have crossed a line this time though.

[Cherie]

Went up to London this evening, Liverpool Street packed , babies in buggies, people sitting eating sandwiches and reading newspapers on the concourse, tube packed, no sign of army or police, life goes on and two fingers up at the bomber, you won't stop life going on no matter how cowardly you pick your victims

[Braden]

Went up to London this evening, Liverpool Street packed , babies in buggies, people sitting eating sandwiches and reading newspapers on the concourse, tube packed, no sign of army or police, life goes on and two fingers up at the bomber, you won't stop life going on no matter how cowardly you pick your victims

Thank you for posting this, Cherie. Makes me feel a lot better for going tomorrow.

[Cherie]

Thank you for posting this, Cherie. Makes me feel a lot better for going tomorrow.

You are welcome Braden, people just going about their business it was good to see

[smudgie]

Went up to London this evening, Liverpool Street packed , babies in buggies, people sitting eating sandwiches and reading newspapers on the concourse, tube packed, no sign of army or police, life goes on and two fingers up at the bomber, you won't stop life going on no matter how cowardly you pick your victims

Fantastic, we can't let the scum win.

[Denver]

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[Brother Leon]

Posted this in the football forum, but it's fitting here too. The attack has bought people together.

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[the truth]

Makes me sick that his father says he is innocent but what do you expect from Terrorists

incredible...why arent the liberals furious about this

[Braden]

Posted this in the football forum, but it's fitting here too. The attack has bought people together.

867489653871587328

Brilliant :love:

[Scarlett.]

incredible...why arent the liberals furious about this

Because there are more important things than going on about some dumb prick who refuses to see that his kid was a grade A ****.


I love this video, The Spirit of Manchester (https://streamable.com/cle19)

[jaxie]

Thank you for posting this, Cherie. Makes me feel a lot better for going tomorrow.

Try not to worry too much I expect security will be super vigilant and you will be safer than ever.

[Beso]

Went up to London this evening, Liverpool Street packed , babies in buggies, people sitting eating sandwiches and reading newspapers on the concourse, tube packed, no sign of army or police, life goes on and two fingers up at the bomber, you won't stop life going on no matter how cowardly you pick your victims

:clap1:

[Denver]

15 year old Elildh Macleod and 50 year old Wendy Fawell confirmed dead

[andybigbro]

15 year old Elildh Macleod and 50 year old Wendy Fawell confirmed dead

:sad:

[Niamh.]

Posted this in the football forum, but it's fitting here too. The attack has bought people together.

867489653871587328

:love:

[Livia]

I just got back from Israel yesterday. What an abominable, heartbreaking thing to have happened. The Israelis lit up their Municipality Building in Tel Aviv in solidarity after the bomb... I know lots of other countries did the same.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAh8NpAXoAQgYK7.jpg

[Denver]

Just seen the Queen has gone to the hospitals to meet the victims who are seriously ill

[Cherie]

Just seen the Queen has gone to the hospitals to meet the victims who are seriously ill

amazing woman, where are the young Royals?

[lewis111]

Something about the aftermath of this tragedy I'm noticing is there's a lot more discussion about the victims than there if often is after these types of attacks
Usually we see a picture of them on the news then we go on for weeks to talk about the attacker, but the victims I feel are really getting the respect they deserve and it's nice to see

[Nicky91]

:clap1: :clap1:

Queen Lizzie such a amazing classy lady

[Niamh.]

Something about the aftermath of this tragedy I'm noticing is there's a lot more discussion about the victims than there if often is after these types of attacks
Usually we see a picture of them on the news then we go on for weeks to talk about the attacker, but the victims I feel are really getting the respect they deserve and it's nice to see

yeah indeed, may be because most of them were so young

[Daniel.]

This is truly devastating. What a horrific world we live in.

RIP to all those who died

[Denver]

this had me in tears

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[Denver]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3644233/manchester-bombing-victim-olivia-campbell-mum-breaks-down-vigil-final-text/

TRAGIC Olivia Campbell’s devastated mum broke down last night at a vigil held for the Manchester bombing victims

[Cherie]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3644233/manchester-bombing-victim-olivia-campbell-mum-breaks-down-vigil-final-text/

TRAGIC Olivia Campbell’s devastated mum broke down last night at a vigil held for the Manchester bombing victims

poor woman is in shock, I don't really know what filming and sharing this does for people, it feels wrong on all sorts of level, its like modern day grave robbing or something, it doesn't sit well with me away

[Denver]

poor woman is in shock, I don't really know what filming and sharing this does for people, it feels wrong on all sorts of level, its like modern day grave robbing or something, it doesn't sit well with me away

She wanted to do it because she wants to thank everyone who tried to help find her daughter

[Kazanne]

Aw bless the queen on the news meeting some of the kids injured,I know everyone doesn't like her but still lovely of her to go and visit.

[Cherie]

She wanted to do it because she wants to thank everyone who tried to help find her daughter

yes I know that, but why film it? can't people just put their phones down and stop trying to share every bit of of someones grief, just awful, I've just heard some woman on the radio say we need to see the grief and nothing should be hidden so we can understand what they are going through, are we really gone that far that we need video and pictures to help us understand.

[Denver]

yes I know that, but why film it? can't people just put their phones down and stop trying to share every bit of of someones grief, just awful, I've just heard some woman on the radio say we need to see the grief and nothing should be hidden so we can understand what they are going through, are we really gone that far that we need video and pictures to help us understand.

tbf most of the people helping were on Social Media

[Kazanne]

This is Olivia singing a song that will now be played at her funeral,so very sad,made me well up.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/olivia-campbell-victim-terror-attack-13084887

[Amy Jade]

yes I know that, but why film it? can't people just put their phones down and stop trying to share every bit of of someones grief, just awful, I've just heard some woman on the radio say we need to see the grief and nothing should be hidden so we can understand what they are going through, are we really gone that far that we need video and pictures to help us understand.

I agree. I can't watch her breaking down. It's too much and while I understand her wanting to thank people and 100% commend her bravery I just think it's not something that I want to see personally.

[Cherie]

tbf most of the people helping were on Social Media

I'm not getting at you Adam, you do a grand job keeping us all informed of what's going on, grief to me is a very personal thing but obviously everyone copes in their own way, I just find the urge to film everything these days a bit too much and over the top.

[Amy Jade]

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/news/a829169/good-morning-britain-manchester-terror-act-tougher/

[Mystic Mock]

Aw bless the queen on the news meeting some of the kids injured,I know everyone doesn't like her but still lovely of her to go and visit.

The Queen isn't an evil monster tbf.

[Tom4784]

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/news/a829169/good-morning-britain-manchester-terror-act-tougher/

I feel sorry for him, he's angry and hurting and is lashing out.

I completely disagree with him though, 'fighting fire with fire' is the last thing we want to do and blaming the police doesn't help either.

[Shaun]

Not terribly important but shouldn't the thread title be updated a little :worry:

[andybigbro]

Not terribly important but shouldn't the thread title be updated a little :worry:

On it

[Daniel-X]

Don't know where else to put this really but-
http://www.itv.com/news/granada/update/2017-05-25/breaking-police-incident-in-wigan/

This is literally ten minutes walk away from me, it's getting too scary now :sad:

[Braden]

Try not to worry too much I expect security will be super vigilant and you will be safer than ever.

Thanks, Jaxie. It was a nice day, police were noticeable in most areas and the city felt very safe. Essentially what Cherie said.

[Vanessa]

Don't know where else to put this really but-
http://www.itv.com/news/granada/update/2017-05-25/breaking-police-incident-in-wigan/

This is literally ten minutes walk away from me, it's getting too scary now :sad:

I heard they're looking for the terrorists and made several arrests.

[Scarlett.]

Top of my street was closed off this evening after suspicious package was found, thankfully it was a false alarm, but they cordoned off quite a large area.

[lewis111]

Ariana has posted her response to the attack o and it is very touching.
What she posted is more heartfelt and honest than anything I have heard from any politician, and I feel she has said what we are all thinking

I'm Not sure how to post tweets but if someone could post it that'd be great

[Shaun]

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The message itself:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAxXcwuXkAEDrAV.jpg

[Dominic]

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The message itself:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAxXcwuXkAEDrAV.jpg

:love::love::love:

[Wizard.]

I went to the memorial place in St. Ann's square to lay flowers there's so many tributes it's beautiful to see but so sad at the same time. So many armed police around.

[UserSince2005]

im devoed that im not going to be in manchester when she does her free gig.

[Alf]

I've just found out today, that my sister and niece were there at the concert, luckily, they were on the opposite side.

I'm ****ing fuming.

[AnnieK]

I've just found out today, that my sister and niece were there at the concert, luckily, they were on the opposite side.

I'm ****ing fuming.

Pleased they were ok Alf. ...scary thinking what could have been

[Kizzy]

Well this puts a new slant on things...

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/salman-abedi-manchester-attack-reported-family-imam-friends-did-nothing-a7757726.html

[Brother Leon]

Well this puts a new slant on things...

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/salman-abedi-manchester-attack-reported-family-imam-friends-did-nothing-a7757726.html

Not good enough. Muslims need to get on their WhatsApp and tell ISIS to stop these attacks right now.

[Kizzy]

Like this guy?

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/05/27/one-man-cant-speak-billion-muslims-might-want-watching-video/

[jaxie]

Thanks, Jaxie. It was a nice day, police were noticeable in most areas and the city felt very safe. Essentially what Cherie said.

:hug: Great to hear you enjoyed yourself.

[DemolitionRed]

Well this puts a new slant on things...

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/salman-abedi-manchester-attack-reported-family-imam-friends-did-nothing-a7757726.html

May needs to start answering questions. MI5 were warned about this guy five times5... five fecking times :fist: We could of stopped lives being lost.

"There are 3,000 people on the UK terror watch list. MI5 has 4,000 staff. It takes 30 people to keep a terror suspect under surveillance – do the maths.

The Americans spend five times as much as us (per capita) on intelligence. So why do we think we can do it on the cheap?"

[arista]

Libyan man arrested in
Shoreham, Sussex today
is believed to have lived in a flat above shops.

And a lady in another flat said this person
arrested wanted to be a Pilot.

16 in all
now arrested.

http://news.sky.com/story/landfill-site-searched-in-greater-manchester-as-part-of-terror-attack-investigation-10897646

[Livia]

May needs to start answering questions. MI5 were warned about this guy five times5... five fecking times :fist: We could of stopped lives being lost.

"There are 3,000 people on the UK terror watch list. MI5 has 4,000 staff. It takes 30 people to keep a terror suspect under surveillance – do the maths.

The Americans spend five times as much as us (per capita) on intelligence. So why do we think we can do it on the cheap?"

Have you any idea the size of the problem MI5 are working with? No, of course you don't. You take snippets of information and use them as a stick to beat the British. It's tiresome.

And please.... it's COULD HAVE... and not COULD OF. Just a personal thing but really annoying.

[AnnieK]

Just in St Anne's Square looking at the tributes. So emotional. People just in quiet contemplation....leaving messages. Beautiful and heartbreaking.

[AnnieK]

A year ago today....:sad: Just going to Albert Square for memorial.....a year has flown by.
:sad:

[Crimson Dynamo]

There was a minutes silence on Radio 2 today which I felt was inappropriate and mawkish. Each to their own but I find these things ridiculous and unhelpful but if some people get some solace then so be it.

[Wizard.]

I was outside the cathedral today for the memorial service and minutes silence, then went to the trees of remembrance. </3

[AnnieK]

There was a minutes silence on Radio 2 today which I felt was inappropriate and mawkish. Each to their own but I find these things ridiculous and unhelpful but if some people get some solace then so be it.

There was a nationwide silence at 2.30, there is a memorial service in Albert Square soon then the cathedral bells will ring at 10.31. Everywhere has been united and weirdly "together" and its nice to see the city pull back together to remember.

[Beso]

There was a minutes silence on Radio 2 today which I felt was inappropriate and mawkish. Each to their own but I find these things ridiculous and unhelpful but if some people get some solace then so be it.

Did you watch the programme last night about the race attacks that have happened in manchester this year?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Did you watch the programme last night about the race attacks that have happened in manchester this year?

i did not

[AnnieK]

I was outside the cathedral today for the memorial service and minutes silence, then went to the trees of remembrance. </3

:love:

[Shaun]

I wasn't aware there was a nationwide silence today :unsure: It's been a sad day, though...

[Cal.]

Will be taking a moment at 10.31.

[kirklancaster]

There was a nationwide silence at 2.30, there is a memorial service in Albert Square soon then the cathedral bells will ring at 10.31. Everywhere has been united and weirdly "together" and its nice to see the city pull back together to remember.

Aw Annie, it's sad enough remembering this devastation from a distance, it must have been emotionally overwhelming to be there today. :kiss:

RIP all those who passed.

[andybigbro]

I can’t believe it’s been a whole year :sad:

Such a tragedy :(

[AnnieK]

So emotional in Manchester tonight, so many people, laughing, crying and hugging anyone and everyone. Came away a little early so missed the sing along bit but my little boy has school tomorrow. Made me love my city all the more tonight, truly inspirational people.....#mancandproud

[Black Dagger]

I went to the sing along. There was a sodding great tree blocking the screens and the stage was too far away to see but the community spirit shone. I'm a proud Manc tonight.

[AnnieK]

I went to the sing along. There was a sodding great tree blocking the screens and the stage was too far away to see but the community spirit shone. I'm a proud Manc tonight.

:love: probs just missed you, was way at the back too, was rammed when we got there but left early, after the survivors choir, couldn't see **** but atmosphere was amazing xx

[arista]

Manchester Arena Inquiry: ‘Unforgivable' security mistakes

The Security went for Kebabs


[It was a spot the bomber had planned carefully
in repeated hostile reconnaissance trips
over previous days.
It was here he waited as parents and families gathered
to collect loved ones leaving the concert,
and it was here that he walked into the
crowd at 22:31 BST and blew himself up.]



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-57499326



Many are Saying if he was Confronted
with his Big Back Pack on
he would have still detonated it
but less would have died

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[AnnieK]

5 years today! :sad:

A grey Tuesday morning, ‘neath Lancastrian skies
We wake once again to wipe tears from our eyes.
Forced to wear robes of weakness ad pity,
As cowards attack the very heart of our city.

Like always, we’ll comfort and hold one another,
A Mancunian family of sisters and brothers.
For a time our strut is reduced to a stagger,
But make no mistake, we’ll rekindle our swagger.

We’ll learn how to live with another deep scar.
If you think you can beat us, you don’t know who we are!

We’re Collyhurst, Ancoats, Moston and Sale.
We’re Oldham and Bury; Ashton; Rochdale.

We’re Pankhurts and Turing, the Gallagher Brothers,
We’re Morrissey, Marr and a million others!

We’re a city of workers, a city of shirkers.
A city of tracksuits, and bibles and burkas.

Vegetarian, Rastafarian, Athiest, Jew.

100 red! 100% blue.

We’re each of us different but never alone.
In the Cosmopolitopia, we get to call ‘home’.

So, come at us again, and again if you must.
Time after time we’ll rise from the dust.
You’ll never prevail – not against us…

This is Manchester, our MANCHESTER
And the bees still buzz!

Ryan WilliamspoempoetryManchester

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

One of the worst events that has been in my lifetime imo.

Especially thinking of crimes that have happened in the UK in the last 26 years.

[arista]

One of the worst events that has been in my lifetime imo.

Especially thinking of crimes that have happened in the UK in the last 26 years.


Stupid Police Control

There was no more bombs
or attackers


They let people Die
By stopping any entering for 2 hours

[Mystic Mock]

Stupid Police Control

There was no more bombs
or attackers


They let people Die
By stopping any entering for 2 hours

Tbf to them it was a stressful situation, I get why the families of the victims are upset, but the Police weren't going out of their way to kill people in this case, they were overly cautious in hindsight.

[Sticks]

Stupid Police Control

There was no more bombs
or attackers


They let people Die
By stopping any entering for 2 hours

Unfair, you speak with the benefit of hindsight

A standard terrorist tactic is to detonate a first device, wait for the first responders to attend the scene, and then detonate a secondary device to take them out too. The police could not let anyone in to help until the area was declared clear of secondary devices.

[AnnieK]

The emergency services have admitted catastrophic errors in handling the emergency, sadly it is too little too late for the victims of the bombing. All we can hope is that if there is ever another situation like this, lessons have been learned.

It must be horrific for the families knowing the failings and they will be devastated and angry.

[bots]

the problem was that the emergency services already had the benefit of knowledge from previous incidents, but still didnt learn anything

[arista]

Unfair, you speak with the benefit of hindsight

A standard terrorist tactic is to detonate a first device, wait for the first responders to attend the scene, and then detonate a secondary device to take them out too. The police could not let anyone in to help until the area was declared clear of secondary devices.


No Sticks
as the Tragedy went down
I knew the police were wrong


No more Explosions
on the live feed.


I was saying Police & Medics should go in,
as the tragedy unfolded

[Sticks]

Not on this occasion, but what if there had been a secondary device. This was a standard tactic of the IRA. Sometimes they would kill a soldier and plant explosives to catch the first responders.

Look up the Deal bombings!

[arista]

Not on this occasion, but what if there had been a secondary device. This was a standard tactic of the IRA. Sometimes they would kill a soldier and plant explosives to catch the first responders.

Look up the Deal bombings!


Evil Muslim Extremists.

At the Time the
Stupid Police stayed out
far to long.

So many more died

[arista]

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