CBB21 Ratings Thread

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[Rob!]

1.5m (6.7%) for last night.

[supertv247]

1.5m (6.7%) for last night.

100k down on last week, 300k down on last year :bawling:

[RichardG]

rip

[supertv247]

I’d love to be a fly on the wall when they’re negotiating the renewal of the contract. Look at the ratings alone and there’s no coming back, BB is dead. But look at the response to this series and it’s incredible, reports from the bbc and telegraph even praising it. I really can’t tell where it’ll go

[lewis111]

I’d love to be a fly on the wall when they’re negotiating the renewal of the contract. Look at the ratings alone and there’s no coming back, BB is dead. But look at the response to this series and it’s incredible, reports from the bbc and telegraph even praising it. I really can’t tell where it’ll go

It would probabaly all come down to money
If people are saying they are loving it yet not voting any more that they did for series they hated then the praise doesn't really mean much

[Rob!]

I’d love to be a fly on the wall when they’re negotiating the renewal of the contract. Look at the ratings alone and there’s no coming back, BB is dead. But look at the response to this series and it’s incredible, reports from the bbc and telegraph even praising it. I really can’t tell where it’ll go

The problem with a show like BB though is that every series is different. We all give Channel 5 a hard time, but realistically the people behind it want every series to succeed and every series the casting has to be not only right but lucky. It takes one bad series for everything to go down the ****ter again. Look at the differences between BB17 and 18 - one was the second most watched behind BB14 and the other was by far the least watched ever. I think it's beyond doubt this is the final year of BB. The civilian version would need a miracle to pick itself up after last year's disaster. We had Fight Night 3 and that didn't even pick the ratings up. CBB is a slightly different beast because celebrities just feel more relevant at the moment. Only the die hards watch the civilian version. It's the most expensive show Channel 5 has probably ever had and it sometimes does no better, if not worse, than other shows that cost a quarter to make and screen. A series as calm as this one wouldn't wash for 3 months. I'm sure Channel 5 would love to just have the Celeb version on twice a year and lose civilian but I don't think the contract allows for it. With not only the show but the house up for contract renewal this year, it does seem like a sort of natural time to end it, unless they have major plans going forward.

[Jodie.]

It’s like it rises every day and then Saturday just ****s it up and the whole process starts again

[*mazedsalv**]

It’s like it rises every day and then Saturday just ****s it up and the whole process starts again

This...

Last Monday got 1.57m (so only 70k up on last night), Tuesday got 1.64m, by Thursday it got 1.72m and then 1.77m for Friday.

So I hope tonight it can be back to 1.6m. I think 1.6m for the rest of the series would be OK, as that would give an official of around 2.1m. But I think it';s losing it's momentum. As much as i am enjoying, it needs a big event to boost it back up top 1.7m+

So far we have had 1.4m for Sunday and 1.5m for Monday, so another climb wiill be welcome, but i think it will hold in the 1.4m range for the rest, even though I hope it could be a good 300k higher.

[Vanessa]

This...

Last Monday got 1.57m (so only 70k up on last night), Tuesday got 1.64m, by Thursday it got 1.72m and then 1.77m for Friday.

So I hope tonight it can be back to 1.6m. I think 1.6m for the rest of the series would be OK, as that would give an official of around 2.1m. But I think it';s losing it's momentum. As much as i am enjoying, it needs a big event to boost it back up top 1.7m+

So far we have had 1.4m for Sunday and 1.5m for Monday, so another climb wiill be welcome, but i think it will hold in the 1.4m range for the rest, even though I hope it could be a good 300k higher.

It's weird, isn't it?

[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.36m exc. +1

[RichardG]

:skull:

[Greg!]

I won't say :skull: until we get +1

[supertv247]

3 years ago the same episode got 3 million overnight, so since then it’s halved.. :umm2: and that’s not a very long time considering the overall 40+ series of CBB and BBUK we’ve been through

[T*]

:skull:

[Cal.]

3 years ago the same episode got 3 million overnight, so since then it’s halved.. :umm2: and that’s not a very long time considering the overall 40+ series of CBB and BBUK we’ve been through

AAAAAHHHH

[Rob!]

It’ll be about 1.5m with +1 which sucks as it was getting 1.77 last week.

[pontyboi]

So where's the +1 figure?

[*mazedsalv**]

It got 1.6m incl +1 so same as last Tuesday F2F 90 mins episode.

Increased for 3 days, Sunday got 1.4m, Monday 1.5m and last night 1.6m.

[Jodie.]

What to believe idk
953620296157859843

[*mazedsalv**]

3 years ago the same episode got 3 million overnight, so since then it’s halved.. :umm2: and that’s not a very long time considering the overall 40+ series of CBB and BBUK we’ve been through

But then again those series launched with like 3.8m lol

This series launched with 2.4m official. It's kind of obvious it wouldn't ever reach 2m+ officials daily unless it had the best ever launch retention of any BB ever.

People are doubting the ratiings, sure it's not good, but ,maybe we should look into retention. It premiered with 2.07m overnights and is averaging out around 1.6m overnight, what is the retention over the other serries? Retention of launch to the series average of other series haven't been any better has it?

CBB15 for example overnight launch was 3.27m, series average was 2.62m overnight. CBB17 premiered to 2.80m. average was 2.26m. CBB19 averaged at 2.32m overnight, series average was 1.78m.

I mean, if we are to piut the series down, at least look at retention, did we expect it to hold more of it's audience than any other series? Why?

The series average of 1.6mish it is getting vs 2.07m launch rating is probably a similar retention to those series i mentioned...

[*mazedsalv**]

What to believe idk
953620296157859843

Super tweeted 1.6m.

Well lets hope i get confirmation soon.

[Oaker]

seriously though: is there any reason for C5 to keep BB/CBB at this point? It doesn't seem to rate much better than their other shows anymore and I imagine it's much more expensive to make.

[*mazedsalv**]

seriously though: is there any reason for C5 to keep BB/CBB at this point? It doesn't seem to rate much better than their other shows anymore and I imagine it's much more expensive to make.

It is the highest rated thing on C5 at the moment though, so why would they cancel it? The first 7 officials made up the entire Top 10 as always, so why would they? It's expensive but it's daily 2m+ official ratings.

Who else is getting that?

[Jason.]

AXE HA!

[pontyboi]

It is the highest rated thing on C5 at the moment though, so why would they cancel it? The first 7 officials made up the entire Top 10 as always, so why would they? It's expensive but it's daily 2m+ official ratings.

Who else is getting that?

It's not allways 2M+ though is it as we've seen from the first set of officials when it should be for a January cbb. I do agree with you that it is their most constant and reliable show to hit that Mark but it's becoming very hard to even hit 2 million anymore.

The fact channel 5 pay so much for the show and are struggling to make a profit with it surely cost comes first?

The comments from people running the channel over th last 12 months or so have also been firm that they don't want bb to dominate the channel anymore and I get the impression they want rid of it.

Personally I would love it to go to itv2...far less pressure for ratings and a brand new start however given that channels audience is a lot younger we could be seeing bb going back to its cheesier days.

In a perfect world it would be put to rest for a few years and come back on channel 4 for its 20th anniversary as a one off to make it special and see how it goes from there.

[pontyboi]

AXE HA!

Why "HA!"?

[Jason.]

Why "HA!"?

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[pontyboi]

https://i.imgur.com/XmFXHur.png

If you're implying ratings are down due to indias departure then you're wrong seeing as only just over 1.1 million or so stuck around for her actual eviction.

Its stayed pretty much the same as last week with ratings increasing per episode.

[*mazedsalv**]

Bad news, it didn't get 1.6m last night. These are the +1 actual ratings for the last 2 days...

CBB Inc +1
15/1- 1.45m (6.7%)
16/1- 1.51m (7.2%)

Ouch, I can't see it doing too well tonight against Kiri. I don't even think those will make 2m in the officials (the 1.51m might if it's lucky).

They need to be back up to the 1.6m-1.7m level, but I think 1.5m is the ceiling sadly now. It better not drop to under 2 million official :( starting to look it might.

I don't know what they could do, they need a big explosion but it won't happen with this lot especially if they don't want to prod too much but i think they will do everything they can to try and boost it now.

[Oaker]

It's too late for late entrants so I'm not sure if there's anything they can do to get some drama and controversy. They can have **** stirring tasks but this cast is just really weak and I doubt anything will come from it.

Dreading to see this years summer series ratings though, surely BB is at risk of getting officials below 1 million now, and CBB will probably be BB17 level which is crazy to think about.

[Jason.]

If you're implying ratings are down due to indias departure then you're wrong seeing as only just over 1.1 million or so stuck around for her actual eviction.

Its stayed pretty much the same as last week with ratings increasing per episode.

I wasn't implying that at all, but alright.

[*mazedsalv**]

It's too late for late entrants so I'm not sure if there's anything they can do to get some drama and controversy. They can have **** stirring tasks but this cast is just really weak and I doubt anything will come from it.

Dreading to see this years summer series ratings though, surely BB is at risk of getting officials below 1 million now.

Well the BB18 series got 1.2m officially, so BB19 will probably be under 1m official so like 600k average, ouch. But right now, i don't care about that, i expect it to flop anyway. I just want this series to average at a 2.0m official, so it needs at least 1.5m overnights nightly.

[pontyboi]

I wasn't implying that at all, but alright.

Speak your point then this is a forum lol.

Why just add a picture of India in a response to an actual comment?

[*mazedsalv**]

Tonight's going to flop against Kiri, Girlfriends and The FA Cup which went on for almost 3h 30 mins and went into penalties!

I'll say 1.25m.

I am definitely prepared for it. Tomorrow back to 1.5m and then 1.6m at a push on Friday.

[RichardG]

Speak your point then this is a forum lol.

Why just add a picture of India in a response to an actual comment?

memes

[supertv247]

How has this happened so quickly :worry:

Just 2 years ago we worried about CBB16 rating tragically bad, averaging 1.9 officially which is the same as BB14. Now the crown jewel of Channel 5, winter CBB, is at that point :skull:

To make it worse, this time last year Kim let loose and tonight’s equivalent episode had 2.13 million

[T*]

If you're implying ratings are down due to indias departure then you're wrong seeing as only just over 1.1 million or so stuck around for her actual eviction.

Its stayed pretty much the same as last week with ratings increasing per episode.

are you alright?... that conclusion you jumped to was worrying.

[*mazedsalv**]

How has this happened so quickly :worry:

Just 2 years ago we worried about CBB16 rating tragically bad, averaging 1.9 officially which is the same as BB14. Now the crown jewel of Channel 5, winter CBB, is at that point :skull:

To make it worse, this time last year Kim let loose and tonight’s equivalent episode had 2.13 million

So, isn't this confirmation that people want rows? Or is it just the cast? Becayse up until 2 days ago people were loving this series.

That episode was promoted online on the afternoon and got hundreds of thousands of views before it aired. They can only do that if a row happens. Lets be honest, for a "lite CBB", i am not surprised. With no rows, we shouldn't expect any spikes for the series, no one's going to turn up in droves for just talking.

So what people really want is manipulaton? BB revealing noms, "who said what?" and "tweet" tasks? Because rows ain't gonna happen naturally with these guys. They are too clued-up.

Watch the summer series when they get monsters in there and it will be constant rows, I can almost bet my entire savings on it.

[pontyboi]

are you alright?... that conclusion you jumped to was worrying.

How is it worrying? A member posts a meme of India in a chat about declining ratings...i was just making a point.

What's worrying is people who can't express an opinion with actual words on a forum.

No need to worry about me dude....are you ok?

[supertv247]

So, isn't this confirmation that people want rows? Or is it just the cast? Becayse up until 2 days ago people were loving this series.

That episode was promoted online on the afternoon and got hundreds of thousands of views before it aired. They can only do that if a row happens. Lets be honest, for a "lite CBB", i am not surprised. With no rows, we shouldn't expect any spikes for the series, no one's going to turn up in droves for just talking.

So what people really want is manipulaton? BB revealing noms, "who said what?" and "tweet" tasks? Because rows ain't gonna happen naturally with these guys. They are too clued-up.

Watch the summer series when they get monsters in there and it will be constant rows, I can almost bet my entire savings on it.

No, but some early C5 series were just as tame yet averaged 2.4~

but imo I actually do think the cast is actually just quite boring because it’s so old. I really do like it, but it’s a bit too much now, not interesting to many people. We don’t need full blown rows, but this series has NOTHING to it. Individual conversations are interesting, tasks are interesting, the group development is interesting, but there’s next to no storylines happening. Ginuwine and Ashley barely passes

[pontyboi]

So, isn't this confirmation that people want rows? Or is it just the cast? Becayse up until 2 days ago people were loving this series.

That episode was promoted online on the afternoon and got hundreds of thousands of views before it aired. They can only do that if a row happens. Lets be honest, for a "lite CBB", i am not surprised. With no rows, we shouldn't expect any spikes for the series, no one's going to turn up in droves for just talking.

So what people really want is manipulaton? BB revealing noms, "who said what?" and "tweet" tasks? Because rows ain't gonna happen naturally with these guys. They are too clued-up.

Watch the summer series when they get monsters in there and it will be constant rows, I can almost bet my entire savings on it.

For some reason bb viewers seem to be the most expectant and critical of any show on TV. It allways tops the most complained about show with Ofcom in end of year polls and ironically when bb give the viewers what they claim to want aka a more back to basics style house they turn off completely but stay tuned when they are apparently offended by rows.

There is so much potential in this series and I hope they don't resort to the tweet tasks ect as its going to come accross desperate and faker than ever.

[lewis111]

1.4m (6.8%) - including +1

[RichardG]

oh wow

[Cal.]

Jan CBB seems to set the tone for the rest of the year in terms of ratings the past few years.

CBB17 did well, BB17 did well and then CBB18 did well.
CBB19 didn't do as well (would have been this series level if it weren't for Kim's arrival), BB18 did awful and then CBB20 did crap.

I really dread to see what BB19's ratings will be. Officials of 950k-1 million I reckon all series. CBB22 will be BB17 level I reckon with 1 million overnights and 1.6 officials.

[Denver]

Maggie keeping the millions interested :clap1:

[Cal.]

It's definitely the two series' a year that's killed it off. They've chucked so many people in and now they're left with crap casts. I understand this cast is quite famous for its nature but they're not people that viewers would tune in for.

[Cal.]

And also I'd imagine Courtney alone is responsible for about 250k of the viewers with the teenage Drag Race fans and I'm really not kidding.

[Denver]

Is Drag Race big here?

[Cal.]

Is Drag Race big here?

It is with people my age.

[Denver]

Has it ever aired here? i know her from another show

[Cal.]

Has it ever aired here? i know her from another show

No it hasn't but it's available on Netflix in the UK

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10423627.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/PROD-Rochdale-abuse-Maggie-Oliver.jpg

[Ashley.]

It's definitely the two series' a year that's killed it off. They've chucked so many people in and now they're left with crap casts. I understand this cast is quite famous for its nature but they're not people that viewers would tune in for.

Yeah, it was bound to dry up at some point, especially with how many people they're putting in there per season... I preferred the show when it had smaller casts and shorter durations. It felt more like a "special event" and now it's becoming a chore to watch, as much as I have enjoyed this season.

[T*]

Has it ever aired here? i know her from another show

Yes, on E4, truTV and now Comedy Central but it gets most of its popularity from Netflix.

[Cal.]

Yeah, it was bound to dry up at some point, especially with how many people they're putting in there per season... I preferred the show when it had smaller casts and shorter durations. It felt more like a "special event" and now it's becoming a chore to watch, as much as I have enjoyed this season.

Agreed. I haven't watched the past two series' and that's coming from a big fan of the show. I can guarantee Love Island will be such a massive event this summer and then BB will come on in August to a non-reaction yet again because they've over done it the last 7 years. I hope they've axed 'summer' CBB otherwise we'll have it airing in October and CBB coming back on 3 months later...if they renew it.

[Cal.]

Yes, on E4, truTV and now Comedy Central but it gets most of its popularity from Netflix.

Mess I didn't know it aired on our telly

[Cal.]

With how I feel about it all right now I'd rather they just wiped the slate clean, followed this series through and left any form of BB and CBB off air for a few years and I've always been one of those people that's argued against that.

[T*]

Mess I didn't know it aired on our telly

it’s always put into the wrong hands except maybe E4 back in the day who would’ve done a good job with it if they kept with it...

[supertv247]

Down on last week, down 730k on last January and even down 100k on summer :worry:
it’s starting to look like it’ll average less than 2 million officially now

[Jodie.]

This series really doesn’t deserve these **** ratings

[Jodie.]

1.5m (7.0%) last night

[supertv247]

1.5m (7.0%) last night

1.45 million to be exact, which is down 300k on last week. These numbers are going to pull the official average below 2 million which is truly ****ing tragic :worry:

[Jodie.]

1.45 million to be exact, which is down 300k on last week. These numbers are going to pull the official average below 2 million which is truly ****ing tragic :worry:

Ugh this is SO ****ing annoying bc when they actually produce a series properly and listen to their fans (mainly looking at CBB20 & CBB21) about the **** stirring tasks etc the ratings just get so so low whereas you look at a series like CBB18 and it’s likely to rate higher than this series:bawling:

So it’s either the damage has already been done and it’ll be axed, or they give it one more chance for word of mouth to spread about how not-C5 they’re producing it now

[*mazedsalv**]

1.45 million to be exact, which is down 300k on last week. These numbers are going to pull the official average below 2 million which is truly ****ing tragic :worry:

Yeah it's not good. I don't see how they'll improve because I don't think this lot will have rows , just bitch a lot.

however I enjoyed last nights show much more than the rest of the week.

[Gstar]

Apparently the second half of last nights eviction got less than a million viewers. If this is true then BB is cancelled

[T*]

CBB - 1.49m 7.6%
Will & Grace - 780k 5.0%
CBB - 960k 7.0%
CBBBOTS - 395k 4.0%

She’s dead.

[Jodie.]

If someone told me Winter CBB would get below 1 million viewers a couple of years ago I would pmsl, but it’s actually happened wtf

Feel like it could even rate 1.9m :worry:

[RileyH]

:skull:

[supertv247]

Last year got 1.8 and 1.6 for the same episode, and we slated that as bad... :skull:

[T*]

are they even getting profit at this point?

[T*]

like if they had a pound for every viewer from last nights ep they wouldn’t be able to afford RayJ’s fee :skull:

[Gstar]

Throwback to CBB15 :lovedup:
An explosive and controversial #CelebrityBigBrother pulled in 2.25m/11.6% to Channel 5 from 10pm. Great numbers for a Saturday


Celebrity Big Brother peaked with a massive 3.58m (18.1%) last night...
UK TV Ratings ‏@TVRatingsUK 21s22 seconds ago
#CelebrityBigBrother continued its strong run with 3.22m/13.1%, its biggest audience since the launch night.

Seriously gobsmacking! :D

Latest officials:

Monday- 3.07m
Tuesday- 3.51m
Wednesday- 2.85m (clash with NTAs)
Thursday- 3.26m
Friday- 3.06m
Saturday- 2.67m
Sunday- 3.31m

Official series average at this point is 3.13m.

[T*]

Throwback to CBB15 :lovedup:

omg that’s crazy

[supertv247]

Not an excuse for it dropping to 2.85 million :skull:

[Jodie.]

They should’ve kept CBB the way it was, it doesn’t go on long enough for the drama to be natural imo. It’s the civilian version that needed these current changes, but I’m not sure if they’ll keep them due to these ratings

[supertv247]

The worrying thing now is where bbuk goes from here.....?

[Eddie.]

It's very surreal to think that just last year, Winter CBB was in the 2.6 mil. range, seems like ages ago when comparing it to the 1.4 mil. we get now. Even India's interview got 1.1 mil. viewers which is really bad.

[T*]

They should’ve kept CBB the way it was, it doesn’t go on long enough for the drama to be natural imo. It’s the civilian version that needed these current changes, but I’m not sure if they’ll keep them due to these ratings

the thing is they go from one extreme to another
there’s no balance

[Eddie.]

The worrying thing now is where bbuk goes from here.....?

BB19 to get a 500k average?

[Jodie.]

The worrying thing now is where bbuk goes from here.....?

My AMAZING theory is so let’s face it, production right now is probably the best it’ll ever be on C5 now and word of mouth has spread that to old viewers which is why the ratings kept growing and growing initially. HOWEVER after India left and there was no drama or anything, people switched off due to the cast not delivering.

So I think people may want to watch bbuk bc most of the main problems have been fixed (outside contact, **** stirring tasks etc), but they just need a great cast to deliver. Polar opposites would be a good idea for that, eg say a gay person and a homophobic person in the house together, or a Muslim/refugee with a person that doesn’t think Britain should get involved because “its not our problem”

[supertv247]

My AMAZING theory is so let’s face it, production right now is probably the best it’ll ever be on C5 now and word of mouth has spread that to old viewers which is why the ratings kept growing and growing initially. HOWEVER after India left and there was no drama or anything, people switched off due to the cast not delivering.

So I think people may want to watch bbuk bc most of the main problems have been fixed (outside contact, **** stirring tasks etc), but they just need a great cast to deliver. Polar opposites would be a good idea for that, eg say a gay person and a homophobic person in the house together, or a Muslim/refugee with a person that doesn’t think Britain should get involved because “its not our problem”

Well this went to 100 real quick


I do agree that word of mouth could help for bbuk. If they REALLY pulled it out the bag, had a solid cast with this stripped back format etc then maybe we could see BB19 overtake CBB21 in ratings... Who knows :shrug:

[T*]

A cast similar to BB5 or BB7 would be good, controversial people who might clash brought together in one house
They have to be normal-ish like those series’ housemates though, no former TV appearances and a range of ages

[Jason.]

The viewers are so PC that a cast like BB5-7 wouldn't work nowadays.

Imagine if someone like Ahmed, who openly admitted he doesn't like gay people in his VT went into the house in 2018. There would be an outcry on social media to the point they're ejected on Day 3.

[Jodie.]

The viewers are so PC that a cast like BB5-7 wouldn't work nowadays.

Imagine if someone like Ahmed, who openly admitted he doesn't like gay people in his VT went into the house in 2018. There would be an outcry on social media to the point they would get ejected on Day 3.

Didn’t Danielle BB15 say something like that in her VT tho?

[Jason.]

Didn’t Danielle BB15 say something like that in her VT tho?

Danielle's VT wasn't as extreme as Ahmed's.

[Cal.]

Remember Winston getting evicted on Day 4 and getting dragged by the house, Emma and the crowd for saying the stuff the producers put him in the house for :skull:

[Cal.]

AHHH his eviction :laugh2:

Christopher: 'All my life I've been fighting being gay and homophobic' :laugh2:

[Cal.]

AHHH his eviction :laugh2:

Christopher: 'All my life I've been fighting being gay and homophobic' :laugh2:

[Cal.]

y-XCt5GcR5E

Emma went IN

[Jason.]

Christopher: 'All my life I've been fighting being gay and homophobic' :laugh2:

:joker::joker::joker:

[Morgan.]

"So without comparing EVERYTHING to Boxing, this ISNT BOXING"

[Greg!]

Honestly not even surprised at that second show figure. John and Maggie aren't exactly massive characters so who's going to bother tuning in for half an hour after the highlights when you can just find out on social media.

[Cal.]

Honestly not even surprised at that second show figure. John and Maggie aren't exactly massive characters so who's going to bother tuning in for half an hour after the highlights when you can just find out on social media.

Me. I looked on here to see who went and my dad ended up turning the telly over to CBB before he went to bed because he's been used to be me watching it and that's the only reason I caught the interview.

[T*]

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[Morgan.]

Tbf Will and Grace is killing CBB (or at least adding to the trouble) because people either aren't keeping TV on so they don't have to suffer through W&G or are forgetting the second episode is on. They need to stop splitting Shows.

Now if they chose to make CBB an Hour and a half Show all in one or even moved it to 8:30 like last year then CBB would take less of a ratings hit and Will and Grace could still get Show.

But at the moment it's working Against C5 because CBB is giving Will and Grace viewers but they're not sticking around to finish CBB. And they should be protecting their original shoes such as CBB other than marketing for an American Sitcom that would be axed from C5 soon enough without the constant CBB promo and ratings boosts.

[Morgan.]

Like the sketches they do when the cast of W&G talk to Emma are pointless and annoying.

[Jason.]

It's still rating terribly, regardless of the split show.

1m for a January CBB is diabolical.

[supertv247]

CBB got 3 million on Saturdays 2/3 years ago. Tonight it’s airing twice and it’ll still be lucky to get 1 million

[Cal.]

CBB21: 1.8 million officially
BB19: 900k officially
CBB22: 1.5 million

[Oaker]

It'll be interesting to see how BB19 does considering it's getting moved to late summer and will have no LI clash (presumably since applications close really late).

[Jason.]

It'll be interesting to see how BB19 does considering it's getting moved to late summer and will have no LI clash (presumably since applications close really late).

Is that actually confirmed? :skull:

I just thought it was a rumour

[Oaker]

Is that actually confirmed? :skull:

I just thought it was a rumour

well on the auditions website it says this:

You must be 18 years of age by July 31 2018

So it must start after 31 July :skull:

[Cal.]

I'm happy with civilian airing on late summer nights because it'll probably do better than early summer nights when everybody is usually out and the media is distracted by BGT and then Love Island.

[Cal.]

They're making a grave mistake airing CBB22 against Love Island if that is their plan though. CBB's audience are much more fickle and more likely to go to Love Island whilst civilian's audience is made up of loyal hardcore fans that would watch regardless. It wouldn't surprise me if Love Island makes CBB22 a lot closer to civilian than it ever has been.

[Jason.]

The thing is Love Island has double the viewers BB has now and the last series averaged higher than any BB series has in 8 years, so the two aren't really comparable anymore as LI is attracting people that weren't interested in BB in the first place.

[Cal.]

The thing is Love Island has double the viewers BB has now and the last series averaged higher than any BB series has in 8 years, so the two aren't really comparable anymore as LI is attracting people that weren't interested in BB in the first place.

The only BB comparable to Love Island is the summer CBB. They air at a similar time of the year, both have similar audiences and both formats are quite similar. January CBB reaches a far wider audience as more people sit indoors and watch TV in the evenings in January than they would in the summer when beer gardens and BBQs seem more attractive and civilian BB has been well and truly over since 2014. However, summer CBB will well and truly lose the war this summer.

[Cal.]

Civilian BB had a brief reprieve for BB17 when it increased in ratings and beat the popular Love Island 2 mind.

[Jason.]

I forgot LI3 averaged higher than CBB19.

[Jodie.]

Someone said they think BB19 will start late because of the audition website but Big Blagger said it’s still planned for a June/July launch and the reason it says applicants must be 18 or over by the 31st of July “can’t be disclosed at the moment.” I’ll find the tweet in a sec

[Cal.]

I forgot LI3 averaged higher than CBB19.

Only slightly. DON'T be rude to Nicola and Kim!

[Jodie.]

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[Cal.]

Someone said they think BB19 will start late because of the audition website but Big Blagger said it’s still planned for a June/July launch and the reason it says applicants must be 18 or over by the 31st of July “can’t be disclosed at the moment.” I’ll find the tweet in a sec

There can't be a reason other than them launching it later. They couldn't have under 18s in the house.

[Jason.]

Civilian BB had a brief reprieve for BB17 when it increased in ratings and beat the popular Love Island 2 mind.

LI didn't really peak until last year.

The first series rated below a million and then it became mainstream in the second series with increasing ratings, before finally exploding last year.

A BB3 tea!

[Oaker]

well if it launches in June then that means that there's either going to be late entrants every week or civilians in CBB :skull:

[y.winter]

CBB21: 1.8 million officially
BB19: 900k officially
CBB22: 1.5 million

Realistic enough.
BB19 wouldn't get past 1m, no matter what they do. They can't stop this decline any longer. I wonder if CBB's even worth it, financially (outcome/income ratio).
Yes, CBB gets better rating, but unlike the civilian, they have enormous paychecks for the celebs - so I'm not sure if the profit is worthwhile.

Sooner or later they'll have to kill it. Are they really willing to renew the contract for another 2/3 years, when it's not going to get any better? They'll be shackling themselves to a sinking boat.

[RileyH]

We don't need Love Island brought into it because we all know the only reason it got that many viewers is because of Chris & Liv
https://media.giphy.com/media/xUNd9YIiDByHgYmxji/giphy.gif

[Cal.]

LI didn't really peak until last year.

The first series rated below a million and then it became mainstream in the second series with increasing ratings, before finally exploding last year.

A BB3 tea!

Listen **** off I didn't say it peaked in series 2 but series 2 was still highly popular therefore it was an achievement BB17 managed to beat it with a quarter of its press and media coverage!

[Greg!]

LI didn't really peak until last year.

The first series rated below a million and then it became mainstream in the second series with increasing ratings, before finally exploding last year.

A BB3 tea!

Perched for LI4 to be a dull snooze and be SAVAGED by the media

[Jodie.]

There can't be a reason other than them launching it later. They couldn't have under 18s in the house.

I’m just the messenger my love!

[Oaker]

It's actually mad how well BB17 did considering that BB16 and BB18 were massive flops. The fact that the final week was still getting figures on par with week 1 was really impressive.

[Cal.]

Perched for LI4 to be a dull snooze and be SAVAGED by the media

Emma Greenwood ENTERS the villa in LI5 to re-start the franchise?

[Greg!]

It's actually mad how well BB17 did considering that BB16 and BB18 were massive flops. The fact that the final week was still getting figures on par with week 1 was really impressive.

BB17 :love:

[Cal.]

It's actually mad how well BB17 did considering that BB16 and BB18 were massive flops. The fact that the final week was still getting figures on par with week 1 was really impressive.

Charlie Doherty's final week return ha impact!
https://i.giphy.com/media/l1J3Pt9YcEAcELgpG/giphy.webp

[Jason.]

Listen **** off I didn't say it peaked in series 2 but series 2 was still highly popular therefore it was an achievement BB17 managed to beat it with a quarter of its press and media coverage!

LI2 only averaged less overall because the first week averaged 1.2m and brought it down.

As it went on, it began averaging around the same as BB17.

IGNORANT cow.

[Cal.]

LI2 only averaged less overall because the first week averaged 1.2m and brought it down.

As it went on, it began averaging around the same as BB17.

IGNORANT cow.

You're trying to say some trashy ITV2 show out rated Charlie Doherty's show?

https://i.giphy.com/media/l4FsrBIxSA1Sjazxm/giphy.gif

[Jason.]

You're trying to say some trashy ITV2 show out rated Charlie Doherty's show?

https://i.giphy.com/media/l4FsrBIxSA1Sjazxm/giphy.gif

YHUUUS

/kimwoodburnvoicewhennicolaaskedreally

[Greg!]

953735619443937287
954010814050111495

Mess I wonder what the reason is then?

[Cal.]

YHUUUS

/kimwoodburnvoicewhennicolaaskedreally

:laugh2:

[y.winter]

Mess I wonder what the reason is then?

Casting a Chantelle for CBB22?
Or maybe BB19 actually starts as a celebrity series, and halfway through (that is, July) the late entrants are civilians?

[Cal.]

You must be 18 years of age by July 31 2018

I'd imagine they're planning on keeping applications open until the end of the series, hence you have to be 18 by that date because the series will be ending or will have ended by that date? And so if you're 17 and they pick you, they can still add you into the series once you're 18 providing you turn 18 before that cut off date.

[Greg!]

Bye if they copy love island and have about 20 late entries in one series

[Jodie.]

Ooo miss smartypants!

[Oaker]

Bye if they copy love island and have about 20 late entries in one series

nn this is totally whats going to happen

[Greg!]

Or maybe BB19 actually starts as a celebrity series, and halfway through (that is, July) the late entrants are civilians?

Bye you've just jinxed it. I bet they do this now

[Cal.]

Yeah they're going to have a revolving door of housemates I'd imagine. But their plans can change. BB18 was meant to have all pairs and then abolished that to cash in on the general election. This is just a term and condition since I doubt they'd be interested in 17/18/19 year old applicants. The only ones I can think of that have been in seemed a lot older than they were (Kemal, Lesley, Becky and Ashleigh) or their age and maturity was part of their 'appeal' as a housemate (Glyn).

[Jason.]

Casting a Chantelle for CBB22?
Or maybe BB19 actually starts as a celebrity series, and halfway through (that is, July) the late entrants are civilians?

A convoluted mess

I wouldn't put this past them.

[Cal.]

Oh and Nicole Cammack. Can't believe she was a year older than me at the time she was the most hated BB housemate ever.

[Jason.]

All the young housemates on C4 seemed/looked older than they were.

[Greg!]

I'm was SHOOK recently when I found out Ashleigh was only 18 on BB15

[y.winter]

BB19 - 5 weeks, 25 housemates, 13 backdoor evictions
A normal highlight show:
https://m.popkey.co/eb73e5/Q57lV.gif

[Oaker]

If they're going to keep BB being like 50 days long they really should just have midweek evictions like CBB so they don't have to evict half the cast through backdoor evictions :bored: but Emma probably can't be bothered to show up twice a week tbh

[supertv247]

Am I the only person who’s realised that Big Brother turns 18 this year? Perhaps they want to tie this in with housemates turning 18 this year too.... on July 14th.... just a thought :whistle:

[y.winter]

If they're going to keep BB being like 50 days long they really should just have midweek evictions like CBB so they don't have to evict half the cast through backdoor evictions :bored: but Emma probably can't be bothered to show up twice a week tbh

They wouldn't want to spend their budget on double the live shows. Live shows are expensive, backdoor evictions cost them nothing.
Also, I believe the number of live shows is part of the contract, so spending more live shows on BB means less live shows for CBB - and they wouldn't go there...

[y.winter]

Am I the only person who’s realised that Big Brother turns 18 this year? Perhaps they want to tie this in with housemates turning 18 this year too.... on July 14th.... just a thought :whistle:

They might do that... BB19: Coming of Age
Tackling the young generation like they do now with gender issues?

I'd actually love this new direction of a serious/experimental/mature BB, rather than the usual carnage.

[Gstar]

^ I prefer carnage

[supertv247]

I have heard it through the grapevine that they’re planning on carrying this high brow show through to BB19. If you’ve noticed too, they’re pushing auditions way more than usual. I don’t think we should write off civilian BB yet. BB16 flopped, then CBB started flopping, and then they managed to get a hit with BB17 - so it’s still manageable... the main reason BB18 suffered was the original cast of reality TV wannabes that turned older fans off, after this CBB they could be convinced that it’s going back in the right direction with normal people... could still be carnage tbf!

[Jodie.]

Or maybe BB19 actually starts as a celebrity series, and halfway through (that is, July) the late entrants are civilians?

SORRY but I’d love this - it would make for a longer series instead of the 50~ days we get now, plus it would be good for the ratings I think if it starts off as CBB

[Jodie.]

WHATS the grapevine is it like inside info I want some pleaseee

[y.winter]

SORRY but I’d love this - it would make for a longer series instead of the 50~ days we get now, plus it would be good for the ratings I think if it starts off as CBB

though expect for bottom-of-the-barrel z-listers as the celebs. Imagine the paychecks for a 60 days series.

[supertv247]

Nothing like merging CBB and BBUK will be happening, trust me

[T*]

Am I the only person who’s realised that Big Brother turns 18 this year? Perhaps they want to tie this in with housemates turning 18 this year too.... on July 14th.... just a thought :whistle:

Everyone that enters has just turned 18 and a cannon shoots a condom and a can of dark fruits at them on entry?

[pontyboi]

well on the auditions website it says this:



So it must start after 31 July :skull:

If this is true is this confirmation it's the final year? I mean bb won't finish till late September/early October then cbb starts in the end of the first week of October meaning it will run into november! So if that's the caae the next January cbb would be due in a mere 6 weeks after.

I think this is the final year.

[T*]

I’m thinking there won’t be a summer CBB

[pontyboi]

I’m thinking there won’t be a summer CBB

We can only hope.

[supertv247]

BB19 and CBB22 are both contracted this summer

[Gstar]

My last glimmer of hope is that this was the summer CBB and the one later on in the year is gonna be great ...

[Gstar]

They should of casted Natalie Nunn. Big mistake

[supertv247]

Any publicity is good publicity.... hopefully all this news about the end actually helps :shrug:

[Gstar]

Can I also add how everyone dragged CBB11. Yes it had mostly dull housemates but at least there was drama and arguments

[*mazedsalv**]

Celebrity Big Brother (5 Star): 277k (1.5%)
Celebrity Big Brother (C5): 747k (5.5%)

Inc +1

So 1.024m incl +1. Isn't that pretty much identical to last Saturday.?

I reckon back up to 1.5m tonight. I do think that the row last night would have helped and then backdoor tomorrow.

I'll say 1.48m tonight and 1.52m tomorrow

[T*]

oh wow

[*mazedsalv**]

oh wow

What? thsts pretty decent for both showings really.

same as last week.

[Gstar]

Not for a January series https://media.tenor.com/images/6c085b9d9153467ef9a63dda8dd446bc/tenor.gif

[*mazedsalv**]

Not for a January series https://media.tenor.com/images/6c085b9d9153467ef9a63dda8dd446bc/tenor.gif

it's only lime 250k down on last Januarys Saturdays....

you didn't really expect 5* and 10 30pm get well over 1m did you.

Last Jan Saturdays.... 1.20m, 1.40m, 1.22m, 1.32m.... and they were on at 9pm, not on 5* and late night

[*mazedsalv**]

I think we will see climbs from equivalents last week.

[Gstar]

250k is a quarter of a million and judging by the awful ratings this series they need all the viewers they can get, however, there must be something happening in the house that sparks interest, and there isn’t

[Gstar]

Btw I haven’t watched last nights episode yet but apparently there’s a... *drum roll* ARGUMENT! Only took 3 weeks though..

[*mazedsalv**]

250k is a quarter of a million and judging by the awful ratings this series they need all the viewers they can get, however, there must be something happening in the house that sparks interest, and there isn’t

I think we'll see climbs because last night is being recieved well..
to compare to last week...

14/1- 1.40m
15/1- 1.45m (6.7%)
16/1- 1.51m (7.2%)
17/1- 1.38m

those were Monday to Thurs and I think ratings will either match or be higher this week

[*mazedsalv**]

Btw I haven’t watched last nights episode yet but apparently there’s a... *drum roll* ARGUMENT! Only took 3 weeks though..

it was an exciting episode.

[BBUK-Fan]

BB19 and CBB22 are both contracted this summer

CBB22 to be late summer? September?

[Gstar]

I s2g there needs to be BGC, Love and hip hop, Little Women and Real housewives in this summer CBB.

[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.33m exc. +1

[*mazedsalv**]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.33m exc. +1

200k up on last Sunday which got 1.13m (1.4m including). Could it hit close to 1.6m when +1 is added?

if it does it bodes well for tonight as Monday's usually rate higher than Sundays.

[supertv247]

200k up on last Sunday which got 1.13m (1.4m including). Could it hit close to 1.6m when +1 is added?

if it does it bodes well for tonight as Monday's usually rate higher than Sundays.

It got 1.5, not sure where between 1.46 and 1.54 though

As much as this might not look bad compered to the weekend, it's down 400k on last year and 1.3 million on the year before. I really hope the final week and a half can rise up so to keep the official average over 2 million...

[supertv247]

week 2 officials
(overnight in brackets + what each ep added)

Mon - 2.13 (1.60)+530k
Tue - 2.15 (1.64)+510k
Wed - 2.05 (1.54)+510k
Thu - 2.29 (1.72)+570k
Frid - 2.15 (1.77)+380k
Frid - 1.51 (1.16)+350k
Sat - 1.71 (1.06)+550k
Sun - 1.96 (1.40)+560k

Week average- 1.994 mil

Current series average - 2.008 million

Considering overnights this past week have been even lower than these, the hopes of a series averaging over 2 million are definitely gone

[Nicky91]

not bad i think

[Jodie.]

A Winter CBB not even averaging 2m :worry:

[*mazedsalv**]

week 2 officials
(overnight in brackets + what each ep added)

Mon - 2.13 (1.60)+530k
Tue - 2.15 (1.64)+510k
Wed - 2.05 (1.54)+510k
Thu - 2.29 (1.72)+570k
Frid - 2.15 (1.77)+380k
Frid - 1.51 (1.16)+350k
Sat - 1.71 (1.06)+550k
Sun - 1.96 (1.40)+560k

Week average- 1.994 mil

Current series average - 2.008 million

Considering overnights this past week have been even lower than these, the hopes of a series averaging over 2 million are definitely gone

Unless this next week rates over 1.7m lol
Doubt it through.

[supertv247]

Highly unlike, plus the sub 1m figure from Friday will pull it down a lot (and might happen again)

[supertv247]

Why do less people catchup on the eviction episodes :conf:

[MTVN]

Why do less people catchup on the eviction episodes :conf:

Think it's a combination of the highlights being shorter, people having less time on Saturdays to catch up and a feeling that evictions are still something that should be experienced live or they don't have the same impact especially when you already know the result

[supertv247]

Sunday night: 1.49m (6.6%)
Monday night: 1.41m (6.6%)
both including +1

[MTVN]

Very disappointing for an episode featuring an eviction

[*mazedsalv**]

NTAS tonight.

Good Luck CBB. try not to go sub 1m!

[supertv247]

CBB: 1.23m (5.7%) inc +1

Yes it was against the NTAs with 4.5 million, but it was also an eviction. Last year got 1.7m against 5.5m and it wasn't an eviction, and the year before got 2.5m against 6.4m and that again wasn't an eviction, both just regular Wednesday highlights. This series is plummeting

[Gstar]

Crap ratings for a crap series

[Greg!]

A mess. Dread to think what BB19's ratings will be

[Mrmattybeck]

Cbb 1.5m last night


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[Mrmattybeck]

The behind the scenes programme was fascinating last night such a shame a massive production isn’t getting better ratings can see how much effort they all make some have been on the show for years now too


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[*mazedsalv**]

1.47m last night. up 90k on last Weds.

Hope it can be 1.5m+ for the rest of the run (besides Friday part 2 and Saturday as that is impossible)

[Vanessa]

1.47m last night. up 90k on last Weds.

Hope it can be 1.5m+ for the rest of the run (besides Friday part 2 and Saturday as that is impossible)

That's not bad.

[supertv247]

600k for behind the scenes. Better than an episode of BOTS

[Mrmattybeck]

They should do these behind the scenes shows more often


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[Rob!]

600k for behind the scenes. Better than an episode of BOTS

Will it be possible to get officials for this when they’re released? Would be interesting to see.

[supertv247]

Will it be possible to get officials for this when they’re released? Would be interesting to see.

If it makes the top 30 most viewed of the week on Ch5, then yes :) the programme at #30 last week had 700k viewers so it might just

[Rob!]

If it makes the top 30 most viewed of the week on Ch5, then yes :) the programme at #30 last week had 700k viewers so it might just

Oh that’s interesting. Does BOTS ever make it on there?

[supertv247]

Oh that’s interesting. Does BOTS ever make it on there?

Very rarely. Maybe on launch or finale. Back when CBB15 had 3.3 million it would get over 1m but now think it’s lucky to get over 500k

[*mazedsalv**]

I wonder if we get a relatively big +1 rating tonight as social media is buzzing about tonight's show

It's also trending for the first time since Friday.

[Jake.]

CBB - 1.46m (7.4%) inc +1

[supertv247]

:unsure:

[Rob!]

I think the whole Winter vs Summer thing is now a thing of the past, unless CBB22 is bringing in BB16 type ratings.

[supertv247]

Yikes

CBB 9pm: 1.46m (7.8%)
Will & Grace: 713k (4.8%)
CBB 10.30pm: 943k (7.3%)

[T*]

embarassing, at least dan went though imagine a huge character like Courtney being evicted to that many viewers

[supertv247]

Next Fridays final is the exact same split. If the cbb final result is watched by less than a million viewers then that is absolutely TRAGIC :skull:

[Cal.]

Not Issy pulling in more than Ann?

[Oaker]

honestly I feel like Sarah winning lowkey damaged CBB a lot like she got a pretty big protest vote in the final which almost made Amelia win and I know a few people who were fumed she won and haven't watch this series because of it :skull: Kinda like how Bear damaged it after he won.

and this is coming from someone who loved Sarah.

[Cal.]

Speaking of Sarah, I realised earlier only the CBB20 cast were invited to this year's NTA's and not CBB19's. Does that happen every year with summer CBB?

[supertv247]

Speaking of Sarah, I realised earlier only the CBB20 cast were invited to this year's NTA's and not CBB19's. Does that happen every year with summer CBB?

Hmm.. Looking at the CBB19 cast, I doubt many would've been free to do it anyway. Coleen was with loose women, Jedward on another planet, all the Americans in America, Kim was on the red carpet etc

[Cal.]

Nicola the sole representative?

[T*]

why do they even go to the NTAs they’ve not won anything since 2007 lol

[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.00m (6.6%)

[*mazedsalv**]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.00m (6.6%)

Where i expected for a 10pm Saturday, really.

I mean it was the highest on C5 by quite a long way, Blind Date 710k and the football just before got 400k (2.2%).

You;d think that they would stop the football on C5, they have the rights, so why don't they move it to 5*? It's dragging everything down with it, massive flop. 2.2% share in primetime even for C5 is shocking.

As this week seems to be all within the 1.41m-1.47m range, I will predict that for the rest of the series.

I reckon at the end of it, this series will average 1.85m, just saving it from being the lowest EVER CBB (1.81m for CBB20).

[*mazedsalv**]

These were the overrnights for the week before this week so will be the ones that officials will come out for...

Monday- 1.45m
Tuesday- 1.51m
Weds- 1.38m
Thursday- 1.45m
Friday= 1.49m and 960k
Saturday- 1.02m
Sunday- 1.49m

So I will predict...

1.95m, 2.00m, 1.78m, 1.91m, 1.87m, 1.45m, 1.60m and 2.01m.... average of 1.82m??

Putting that towards last 2 weeks officials, the series average being around 1.90m for the first 3 weeks? Lets be honest if we didn't have the split Friday shows then getting to a 2m average would have been doable, this year def not.

[RichardG]

it's all so bad for a january cbb

[HBIC]

The low launch rating really set the series up for failure. Channel 5 needs to advertise this show more before the next series begins.

[supertv247]

1.35 million (6.3%) last night.. absolutely dire
Same as summer and down 800k on last year

[supertv247]

Week 3 officials (overnights in brackets + what each episode added)

Mon - 1.96m (1.45) +510k
Tue - 2.17m (1.51) +660k
Wed - 1.92m (1.38) +540k
Thu - 2.02m (1.45) +570k
Frid - 1.98m (1.49) +490k
Frid - 1.44m (960k) +480k
Sat - 1.66m (1.02) +640k
Sun - 2.01m (1.49) +520k

Week average - 1.90m

[Rob!]

There’s still some 2m’s in there, which is still huge for C5 regardless.

[supertv247]

The full official series average is currently at 1.97 million

[Rob!]

Apparently the Saturday just gone got 1.1m with +1.

[supertv247]

Apparently the Saturday just gone got 1.1m with +1.

That's excluding the 5star rating

[LukeB]

The full official series average is currently at 1.97 million

Yikes. A winter series not getting over 2 million average is bad

[Rob!]

That's excluding the 5star rating

It wasn’t on 5* last Sat was it?

[supertv247]

It wasn’t on 5* last Sat was it?

It was. Only this Saturday just past it was on C5 at 10pm only

[Rob!]

It was. Only this Saturday just past it was on C5 at 10pm only

Yeah that’s the one I mean :laugh:

[LukeB]

R.i.p BB

[supertv247]

Yeah that’s the one I mean :laugh:

Oh right! Yeah this Saturday got 1m on C5 alone so should be around 1.5 in next week's officials.

Overnights of 1.3m (like last night) will pull the series average down closer to 1.9m rather than 2m which is a shame, and not even the final will help as it's on a Friday and is a split snow

[LukeB]

This series isn't the best winter series but it's better than CBB18 atleast and that got an average of 2.1 :umm2:

winter series are the most viewed BB each year and with the ratings down i dread to think what BB19 ratings would be like and even CBB22.

[Gstar]

1.35 million (6.3%) last night.. absolutely dire
Same as summer and down 800k on last year

Jesus

[*mazedsalv**]

So floppy for last night

Officials dint look too bad considering. It's currently at a 1.97m series average. But the bad ratings of the past week will drag it down to 1.85m at the end I reckon.

[supertv247]

Jesus

Yeah and last year was already bad, down 530k on the year before. So yesterday has lost 1.3 million in 2 years (precisely half its audience) :worry:

[*mazedsalv**]

It's amazing how mich of a difference splitting Friday's is making, surely they will stop doing this. Look at this... these are the officials so far...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Big_Brother_21_(UK)

Surely they understand to stop bloody splitting the Friday show, that is starting to damage the show even mroe than Saturdays, if you take out those 10 35pm Friday slots, then the show would be much more likely to be in the 2s considering so far 13 of the 23 officials are in the 2s, and the Friday 2nd show is barely scraping 1.5m officially.

It;s so easy, and it would help the figures rise if they just did a 90 minute show. The fact that all Saturdays have outrated the last 2 Friday 2nd shows. Get rid of it!!

I know the series ain't doing great, but it would be a step in the right direction.

In recent few years, the only time the Friday split show did very well was for Jeremy's eviction in cbb17 when it was him vs Steph.

Ratings for that:

9pm- 3.25m
10 30pm- 3.04m

That's what you call an incredible official.

[RichardG]

9pm- 3.25m
10 30pm- 3.04m


it's fell so much so quickly

:skull:

[supertv247]

It's amazing how mich of a difference splitting Friday's is making, surely they will stop doing this. Look at this... these are the officials so far...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Big_Brother_21_(UK)

Surely they understand to stop bloody splitting the Friday show, that is starting to damage the show even mroe than Saturdays, if you take out those 10 35pm Friday slots, then the show would be much more likely to be in the 2s considering so far 13 of the 23 officials are in the 2s, and the Friday 2nd show is barely scraping 1.5m officially.

It;s so easy, and it would help the figures rise if they just did a 90 minute show. The fact that all Saturdays have outrated the last 2 Friday 2nd shows. Get rid of it!!

I know the series ain't doing great, but it would be a step in the right direction.

In recent few years, the only time the Friday split show did very well was for Jeremy's eviction in cbb17 when it was him vs Steph.

Ratings for that:

9pm- 3.25m
10 30pm- 3.04m

That's what you call an incredible official.

Those 2 Friday episodes added 900k on catch up too!! This series just isn’t interesting

[Rob!]

1.5m for last night btw

[Jodie.]

From March, catchup services will be included in official ratings

(So My5 will be included, hopefully it helps BB19)

[Rob!]

Why the hell haven’t they been doing they from the start?

[Mec]

From March, catchup services will be included in official ratings

(So My5 will be included, hopefully it helps BB19)

wow here for BB19 to randomly have 2 mil overnights!

[Rob!]

wow here for BB19 to randomly have 2 mil overnights!

If it rates decently (as in 1.2 overnights) there’s actually no reason why not. We’ll probably end up with it being just over a million though sadly.

[poppsywoppsy]

Yes splitting it is not good for me, if anything BBBOTS will go.Although I can record it, I'm not going to bother anymore because it has been run into the ground.

[supertv247]

wow here for BB19 to randomly have 2 mil overnights!

Overnights won't change from this, it'll be official figured that are boosted with the additional My5 viewers. So right now CBB adds around 500k nightly with consolidated figures but that could rise to 7/800k!

If BB19 averages 900k overnight again, the official series average count be nearer 1.6 million again rather than 1.3 like BB18!

[pontyboi]

Overnights won't change from this, it'll be official figured that are boosted with the additional My5 viewers. So right now CBB adds around 500k nightly with consolidated figures but that could rise to 7/800k!

If BB19 averages 900k overnight again, the official series average count be nearer 1.6 million again rather than 1.3 like BB18!

What about the repeats they show the next day and on mtv? I never understood why they wernt counted I mean there are a lot more viewers watching than being projected.

[supertv247]

What about the repeats they show the next day and on mtv? I never understood why they wernt counted I mean there are a lot more viewers watching than being projected.

I think the Channel 5 repeat is counted isn't it? Not sure..

I do remember that during CBB15 (maybe 17) the repeats on MTV were getting 250k at least but it never got added to the official CBB ratings

Edit: I just checked and last Tuesdays CBB is the only one to show up on MTV+1 with 6,000 views :laugh: not sure what it got on MTV but less than 50k

[pontyboi]

I think the Channel 5 repeat is counted isn't it? Not sure..

I do remember that during CBB15 (maybe 17) the repeats on MTV were getting 250k at least but it never got added to the official CBB ratings

Edit: I just checked and last Tuesdays CBB is the only one to show up on MTV+1 with 6,000 views :laugh: not sure what it got on MTV but less than 50k

Eek I have more views on some of my YouTube videos lol nice jump to 1.5 for last night though I expect after another triple eviction tonight it's gonna get very boring for the rest of the week and a drop in ratings.

Looking forward to these ratings for civilian bb after the March announcement

[supertv247]

Eek I have more views on some of my YouTube videos lol nice jump to 1.5 for last night though I expect after another triple eviction tonight it's gonna get very boring for the rest of the week and a drop in ratings.

Looking forward to these ratings for civilian bb after the March announcement

IMO the rest of the week would've been interesting with just 5 housemates left, but BBUK seem to agree with you :fist: and so are putting in a bunch of ex housemates tomorrow. I think 1.5 for the rest of the week. The final will be bad with a split show

[*mazedsalv**]

So basically CBB/BB and every other show is getting far more than we see in the ratings.

With the inclusion of all the extra stuff in March, we should see an increase is EVERY show on TV, especially with young demo. Things like Countryfile will stay the same as they never timeshift because those watching are an older LIVE audience.

But with the likes of IAC, CBB, Love Island, Take Me Out, The Voice, TOWIE etc... will all be higher because a lot of those shows get a lot of people watching on Iplayer/BBCplayer, My5 etc... something which are not counted now.

I read something on another site, that CBB could add "as much as half a million extra on top of the normal officials" (so around 1m altogether) because in the last few years, My5 numbers and other ways of watching the series was 300k+

[Jake.]

Wait, catchup services don’t add onto officials? Since when?!

And in that case, what are “officials”?

[Gstar]

Wait, catchup services don’t add onto officials? Since when?!

And in that case, what are “officials”?

This!

I thought catchup services were already added

[Gstar]

Non CBB21 related but I’m rewatching BB6 (Lesley’s eviction interview) and Davina was telling her off for using the toilet in front of everyone during the task :laugh: and was like “4.5 million people watched you do that” Welp @ how big this show used to be :(

[Cal.]

From March, catchup services will be included in official ratings

(So My5 will be included, hopefully it helps BB19)

I can’t believe they haven’t already