CBB21 Ratings Thread

[Will.]

Discuss the ratings for the upcoming season here.

[supertv247]

Here's how the last 4 series have done. Overnight ratings with the official rating in brackets

CBB17 average - 2.26 (2.83)
CBB17 launch - 2.80m (3.30)
CBB17 final - 2.70m (3.01)

CBB18 average - 1.57 (2.10)
CBB18 launch - 2.36m (2.71)
CBB18 final - 1.80m (2.14)

CBB19 average - 1.78 (2.37)
CBB19 launch - 2.32m (2.77)
CBB19 final - 2.19m (2.56)

CBB20 average - 1.31 (1.78)
CBB20 launch - 1.80m (2.11)
CBB20 final - 1.80m (1.80)

Using this info, I predict a launch of 2.4m (2.9) and a series average of 1.95m (2.45m) - I say this because I think the new eye and very controversial theme will get a little more than last years series did, plus coming off CBB20 which went down well
(I feel CBB19 was down because the gp just don't like all stars, and because it followed Bear) although I don't think it'll reach CBB17 levels due to how low BB has generally been in 2017.

[Eddie.]

I predict a 2.05 mil. for launch, highest I can imagine is a 2.4 mil.
Average ratings could be 1.5 mil., with 1.8 mil. being the highest...
We can't really predict the finale...depends on the series...but based on the downward trend of Winter CBBs...a 1.9 to 2.1 for the finale...

[Cal.]

2.3 launch, officially 2.6

Series average 2.2

[*mazedsalv**]

I still think it willfall short of 2m.

1.88m IMO for launch, 80k up on the CBB20 launch. And settle at 1.6m overnights, 2m official.

There was a massive climb from CBB16 final to CBB17 launch, so would be fantastic if it could do that again, but doubt it. The climb was 1.06m between CBB16 final and CBB17 launch.

[Jodie.]

I reckon it will average 2.5m x

[Jake.]

Will launch with 2.1/2.2 and the series will average that officially

[pontyboi]

Here's how the last 4 series have done. Overnight ratings with the official rating in brackets

CBB17 average - 2.26 (2.83)
CBB17 launch - 2.80m (3.30)
CBB17 final - 2.70m (3.01)

CBB18 average - 1.57 (2.10)
CBB18 launch - 2.36m (2.71)
CBB18 final - 1.80m (2.14)

CBB19 average - 1.78 (2.37)
CBB19 launch - 2.32m (2.77)
CBB19 final - 2.19m (2.56)

CBB20 average - 1.31 (1.78)
CBB20 launch - 1.80m (2.11)
CBB20 final - 1.80m (1.80)

Using this info, I predict a launch of 2.4m (2.9) and a series average of 1.95m (2.45m) - I say this because I think the new eye and very controversial theme will get a little more than last years series did, plus coming off CBB20 which went down well
(I feel CBB19 was down because the gp just don't like all stars, and because it followed Bear) although I don't think it'll reach CBB17 levels due to how low BB has generally been in 2017.

CBB 20 was the lowest rated series in cbb history so I don't understand how you think this year will be up because it "went down well"?

The "new" twist only includes 8 housemates on launch it seems and the rumoured line up is probably the worst ever. Cbb have got some huge celebs to sign up in previous years so hats off to channel 5 but this years rumoured line up is really poor.....every person seems like a z lister.

If they are going to pull a twist/risk like this they need big names on the first night before the men enter otherwise people won't be interested.

[Eddie.]

CBB 20 was the lowest rated series in cbb history so I don't understand how you think this year will be up because it "went down well"?

The "new" twist only includes 8 housemates on launch it seems and the rumoured line up is probably the worst ever. Cbb have got some huge celebs to sign up in previous years so hats off to channel 5 but this years rumoured line up is really poor.....every person seems like a z lister.

If they are going to pull a twist/risk like this they need big names on the first night before the men enter otherwise people won't be interested.

That makes sense...

[Mrmattybeck]

Predictions on tonight I’m thinking around 2m


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[MICHAEL G]

1.9m

[Rob!]

1.8m

What’s it up against?

[RileyH]

2.1m

1.9 average

[RichardG]

1.6m

if we're lucky

[Jodie.]

People are going too low imo it won’t go sub-2m

[Brother Leon]

I think it may do ok at the start as Woman Power is powerful trend at the moment, but it will crash back down.

[Rob!]

BBC1: McMafia
BBC2: The Real T Rex with Chris Packham (:shrug:)
ITV: The Best TV Moments of all time
C4: New series of 24 hours in a&e

[Mrmattybeck]

Will beat most c5 shows but I’m expecting another year on year decline if renewed they need to address why it’s numbers keep dropping


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[Jodie.]

So what do we think the launch got x

[Rob!]

So what do we think the launch got x

Sticking with 1.8m tbh.

[Oaker]

What did CBB20's launch get? I think it'll be the same as that

[Jodie.]

What did CBB20's launch get? I think it'll be the same as that

1.8m

[Jake.]

Inc +1
Celebrity Big Brother launch: 2.07m (10.5%)
* peak: 2.48m (14.1%) at 22.10

[supertv247]

Not bad, not a catastrophe. But still continuing on the downwards trend which isn't exactly good when they were launching with 3.4 million just a few years ago

[Eddie.]

It'a decent enough.

[Mrmattybeck]

Very poor the show most likely won’t be here next year if ratings keep declining each year


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[supertv247]

BB14 - 2.13m
CBB12 - 2.83m
CBB13 - 3.40m
BB15 - 2.10m
CBB14 - 2.36m
CBB15 - 3.27m
BB16 - 1.80m
CBB16 - 2.22m
CBB17 - 2.80m
BB17 - 1.60m
CBB18 - 2.36m
CBB19 - 2.32m
BB18 - 1.32m
CBB20 - 1.80m
CBB21 - 2.07m

[LukeB]

Yikes.

[Rob!]

That’s actually a lot better than I thought it would do

[Denver]

The share is great

[Cal.]

The share is fine.

[supertv247]

10% isn’t exactly fine when 3 years ago it was 16%. That’s losing over a third in just a matter of years, which is no time at all given the show started 18 years ago..

[Kyleisaselenator]

Optimistically, I'll guess an average of around 1.9 million

[Cal.]

10% isn’t exactly fine when 3 years ago it was 16%. That’s losing over a third in just a matter of years, which is no time at all given the show started 18 years ago..

Eh I guess so.

[Cal.]

Could the ratings grow on Friday?

The drop from that is going to be terrible. 1.5/1.6 ish for a January CBB oop. Hope the shares are still high.

[supertv247]

Hopefully people see Friday as a second launch and it boosts it quite considerably

[RichardG]

not good

[Denver]

People need to understand viewership as gone down and many people dont watch live tv anymore and CBB/BB are one of the shows that have a fanbase who are going to watch later on rather then live

[Jodie.]

Don’t catchup figures go higher year on year tho x

[BBUK-Fan]

I think people will watch once men enter too but I'm not sure

[Jodie.]

Also, the people that usually only tune in for the launch and not watch anymore might keep watching to see who goes in Friday, so tonight’s ratings might be quite high idk

[BBUK-Fan]

Also, the people that usually only tune in for the launch and not watch anymore might keep watching to see who goes in Friday, so tonight’s ratings might be quite high idk

If Jonny goes in, Love Island fans might watch just because it's somebody from Love Island

[pontyboi]

It's ok what I expected really the mirror are praising the rating.

[*mazedsalv**]

I completely understand that some people are a bit "meh" about the rating, yes, it;s lowest CBB winter launch, but l think people are forgetting how big a hill BB has had to climb since last summer. They were in a diabolical state in the summer. The civ series was under 700k few times. It ended with 900k. 2 days later, ratings doubled for CBB launch to 1.8m. The series averaged around 1.4m nightly. It ended with 1.6m. Now last night started half a million up on that final.

I get it's low for winter CBB but it's climbed a massive amount from 700k to 2.1m. Anyone expecting it to be in the higher 2s are deluded. It's like expecting X Factor to launch with 10m after it's sub 5m ratings this series orEE to miraculously reach 10m again.

With CBB it's a 'compare to last year' sort of thing. Not a 'but it got 5m s few years ago!' thing.

Speaking of launch to 1st show, last winter's series went from 2.32m to 1.92m in the one night. I wonder how much tonight will retain, i think it will drop a lot, to around 1.4m, but get around 1.7m for the men's entrance on Friday.

[y.winter]

It will crash and burn from now on.

Can someone check the ratings' trend of BB8? Did the female-only twist get leaked before launch night?

[pontyboi]

It will crash and burn from now on.

Can someone check the ratings' trend of BB8? Did the female-only twist get leaked before launch night?

No not that I recall I remember watching and thinking where are all the men?! Turns out bb8 then went on to be its lowest rated series at that point in time but that may have been down to the race row of Cbb5 which was only on in the January of the same year.

[*mazedsalv**]

It will crash and burn from now on.

Can someone check the ratings' trend of BB8? Did the female-only twist get leaked before launch night?

Yes i think we were told before launch. I recall it went from 6.2m to 3.9m oin overnights, in officials here are the first 2 weeks of BB8...

6.6m
4.3m
5.0m (Ziggy enters)
3.8m
4.0m
4.4m
4.0m
5.1m (Emily's ejection)
4.9m (Gerry and Seany enter)
2.9m
2.8m
4.2m
2.3m
2.8m
3.3m/3.3m (Liam, Jonathan, Brian and Billi enter)

So really, the more men they added, the lower ratings got.

[Jason.]

Yes i think we were told before launch. I recall it went from 6.2m to 3.9m oin overnights, in officials here are the first 2 weeks of BB8...

6.6m
4.3m
5.0m (Ziggy enters)
3.8m
4.0m
4.4m
4.0m
5.1m (Emily's ejection)
4.9m (Gerry and Seany enter)
2.9m
2.8m
4.2m
2.3m
2.8m
3.3m/3.3m (Liam, Jonathan, Brian and Billi enter)

So really, the more men they added, the lower ratings got.

I forgot how awful BB8's ratings were.

Those figures for the second week could pass for CBB15's.

[HBIC]

Yes i think we were told before launch. I recall it went from 6.2m to 3.9m oin overnights, in officials here are the first 2 weeks of BB8...

6.6m
4.3m
5.0m (Ziggy enters)
3.8m
4.0m
4.4m
4.0m
5.1m (Emily's ejection)
4.9m (Gerry and Seany enter)
2.9m
2.8m
4.2m
2.3m
2.8m
3.3m/3.3m (Liam, Jonathan, Brian and Billi enter)

So really, the more men they added, the lower ratings got.
The reason why BB8's ratings crashed so badly is because the second week was up against Britain's Got Talent nearly every night. The show never recovered from that awful scheduling.

The all-female twist technically didn't flop since the first week averaged 4.7m.

[supertv247]

If tonight stays above 1.6 then that’s good, same trend as last year... if it falls lower, that’s slightly concerning. Anything over 1.6 would be great at this point.

Tomorrow will probably get slightly more than tonight, as people will think tonight will just be a recap of what we saw last night. So I’ll say 1.6-7 for that. Then hopefully the twist on Friday will be seen as a second launch, with a whole bunch of newbies hopefully it can reach 2 million again - but that will be difficult in itself given that fridays don’t do well these days. If W&G is a huge success and gets over 2m then it may help the second show stay up

[y.winter]

Yes i think we were told before launch. I recall it went from 6.2m to 3.9m oin overnights, in officials here are the first 2 weeks of BB8...

6.6m
4.3m
5.0m (Ziggy enters)
3.8m
4.0m
4.4m
4.0m
5.1m (Emily's ejection)
4.9m (Gerry and Seany enter)
2.9m
2.8m
4.2m
2.3m
2.8m
3.3m/3.3m (Liam, Jonathan, Brian and Billi enter)

So really, the more men they added, the lower ratings got.
It will be nice to see how it affects CBB21, if it does.
Not sure if losing 35% of the rating the day after launch night is a natural thing, or due to the twist (If people started watching without knowing it's female-only and switched off).

[Jake.]

Last night: 1.4m/6.5%

[Greg!]

:skull:

[supertv247]

1.4m is a loss of 670k overnight, and a loss of 520k year on year. It's almost the highest drop from launch to first episode since CBB13 at least, excluding CBB18 which dropped 780k.

Not good. It's not going in a good direction. This is tragic :skull:

[LeatherTrumpet]

Get the men in quick

[Mrmattybeck]

2018 really is the end if cbb winter can only get 1.4m awful


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[Mrmattybeck]

Get the men in quick



Same asap


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[RichardG]

rip

[HBIC]

I think that might one of the lowest winter CBB ratings ever in history.

[supertv247]

1.4 million is the equivalent to a few episodes of BB17 :skull: and the winter CBB from the same year got 2.4 million for it second episode :(

Even summer CBB (which was the least watched ever) launched with 1.8 but then only fell to 1.6 :shrug:

[supertv247]

I think that might one of the lowest winter CBB ratings ever in history.

A couple of 10:30pm Saturday episodes last January got 1.3m but other than that, it definitely is.

This year the 9pm first look episode on 5star is back on Saturdays, as from the 13th it'll be on at 10:30pm on C5

[Rob!]

Oh bollocks.

[Rob!]

****ing hell, excluding +1 it got 1.16m. That’s like what you’d expect from a civilian episode.

[Morgan.]

I do think we will see it rise again on Friday tbh. I can see why people are switching off when we have 5 older women and 3 less known women.

[LukeB]

I do think we will see it rise again on Friday tbh. I can see why people are switching off when we have 5 older women and 3 less known women.

Or the launch was boring or no men lol

But it might rise again friday and probably go down again so expect a big twist:laugh:

[Cal.]

It'll rise on Friday but it won't stabilise unless they have a character prominent in the media throughout (Lee Ryan, Perez Hilton & Katie Hopkins, Tiffany Pollard, Gemma Collins & Stephanie Davis, Kim Woodburn). I don't think any of the current housemates will be that character but Dapper Laughs and Shane Lynch sound like they suit that profile.

[Cal.]

And I know CBB19's weren't very high compared to the former three but they could have been A LOT worse without Kim.

[Rob!]

And I know CBB19's weren't very high compared to the former three but they could have been A LOT worse without Kim.

Kim single handily saved that series, no doubt about it.

[*mazedsalv**]

Terrible. Hope it's just a blip,. But it needs to rise to at the very least to 1.6m to get 2m+ officials... and that will still only be "ok" for winter CBB. Great for summer.

1.3-1.4m was what CBB in summer was getting which was lowest ever CBB, so it will be awful if a JAN series is the lowest!

[*mazedsalv**]

Kim single handily saved that series, no doubt about it.

This.

CBB19 ratings before her entrance and after.. (i have excluded Friday late night ratings and Saturday ones)

2.32m
1.92m
1.97m
1.44m
1.50m
1.77m
1.68m
1.70m
1.90m

1.90m (Kim enters)
1.82m
1.71m
1.80m
1.88m
2.13m
2.12m
1.79m
1.94m
2.07m
1.97m
1.72m
2.08m
1.67m
2.13m
2.00m
1.90m
1.80m
2.05m
2.19m

[RileyH]

I do think we will see it rise again on Friday tbh. I can see why people are switching off when we have 5 older women and 3 less known women.

Jess is literally one of the most famous in there

[pontyboi]

It'll rise on Friday but it won't stabilise unless they have a character prominent in the media throughout (Lee Ryan, Perez Hilton & Katie Hopkins, Tiffany Pollard, Gemma Collins & Stephanie Davis, Kim Woodburn). I don't think any of the current housemates will be that character but Dapper Laughs and Shane Lynch sound like they suit that profile.

Honestly I think Shane lynch is gonna be boring....like the new Calum best.

Also isn't he t total now and not the bad boy he used to be? They could be twins.

[pontyboi]

Terrible. Hope it's just a blip,. But it needs to rise to at the very least to 1.6m to get 2m+ officials... and that will still only be "ok" for winter CBB. Great for summer.

1.3-1.4m was what CBB in summer was getting which was lowest ever CBB, so it will be awful if a JAN series is the lowest!

It's not going to average 2 million + when they are splitting launches and putting it on 5* again on Saturdays though unless the catchup figures are really big.

[BBUK-Fan]

Jess is literally one of the most famous in there

You joking?

[LukeB]

Jess is literally one of the most famous in there

tea

[RileyH]

You joking?

no

[RileyH]

tea

http://i.imgur.com/X3U5dTD.gif

[BBUK-Fan]

I think the show will increase ratings when men go in. Courtney Act could get people watching because RuPaul's Drag Race is quite popular. Jonny from Love Island might draw in the viewers that watched LI and Dapper Laughs could bring in viewers due to being known for his controversial stuff

[BBUK-Fan]

no

Ann Widdecombe and Amanda Barrie are the most famous!

[*mazedsalv**]

It's up against Death in Paradise, Hunted and Piers Morgan, CBB has no chance tonight.

Think it' ****ed tbh. Tomorrow will be the one to watch out for.

[BBUK-Fan]

It's up against Death in Paradise, Hunted and Piers Morgan, CBB has no chance tonight.

Think it' ****ed tbh. Tomorrow will be the one to watch out for.

Tomorrow will be the night for it I think

[RileyH]

Ann Widdecombe and Amanda Barrie are the most famous!

which is WHY I said 'one of'

[RileyH]

oh wait

[RileyH]

yes I did I doubted myself then

[*mazedsalv**]

It's not going to average 2 million + when they are splitting launches and putting it on 5* again on Saturdays though unless the catchup figures are really big.

I mean officially, so 1.6m overnights at least.

But i think it'll be 1.3-1.4m all series unless the men boost it.

[Cal.]

:(

[Cal.]

It's weird because with CBB13, CBB15 and CBB17 there was a genuine buzz around the series. CBB19 only had a build up because of the press speculating who would be back. This series had barely anything despite having IAC/SCD worthy names. Bear really did kill CBB.

[Cal.]

The launch probably won't even beat CBB18's in the officials welp

[LukeB]

The launch probably won't even beat CBB18's in the officials welp

Since BB18 flopped in ratings with the officials included i dread to think what BB19s ratings would be like.

[Cal.]

Since BB18 flopped in ratings with the officials included i dread to think what BB19s ratings would be like.

Same. Probably a 1 million average :skull:

[*mazedsalv**]

The launch probably won't even beat CBB18's in the officials welp

The launch should.

But last nights rating will be lucky to touch 1.8m :shrug:

[*mazedsalv**]

Same. Probably a 1 million average :skull:

612k overnight average, 946k official.

Calling it...

[Rob!]

I think pretty much all of us have accepted that this is the last year of BB so in a way d the ratings even matter at this point? :laugh:

[Jodie.]

Do we think the officials will help much this series? I remember one episode of CBB20 getting 700k on catchup (I think it was in the first week?) but that number went down due to it being boring

Hopefully, especially with the audience this series seems to be targeting, more people are watching on catchup and if it does reach 700k it’ll stay at that level idk just thinking positive x

[*mazedsalv**]

I think pretty much all of us have accepted that this is the last year of BB so in a way donthe ratings even matter at this point? :laugh:

Yep, i used to care more up until a years ago, Obsessed between BB7-BB13, still very interested in BB14-15, during BB16 i used to be like "well it's gonna be bad anyway", and then by BB18, I was accepting and shrugging off the 700k figures.

Back in the late C4 years i used to sneak off every 9:30am-9:45am from a lesson in school to go to the toilet to check the ratings....

wtf was wrong with me man/. Now, i'm like, "it's a tv show, i'm not getting any money for a ratings rise!"

[*mazedsalv**]

Do we think the officials will help much this series? I remember one episode of CBB20 getting 700k on catchup (I think it was in the first week?) but that number went down due to it being boring

Hopefully, especially with the audience this series seems to be targeting, more people are watching on catchup and if it does reach 700k it’ll stay at that level idk just thinking positive x

Yeah imagine last nights ratings increasing to 2.2m.... never will happen!

[HBIC]

Apparently it got 1.35m (6.4%), not 1.4m. 1.4m must have been the rounded figure. The ratings just keeps getting worse and worse :laugh:

[Rob!]

****ing hell :laugh:

[RileyH]

it's dead

[HBIC]

I think pretty much all of us have accepted that this is the last year of BB so in a way d the ratings even matter at this point? :laugh:
It's kind of fun to follow the ratings. I don't know why but it's interesting, especially if they're really bad or really good :joker:

[LukeB]

so it was down nearly a million :skull: ?

[y.winter]

And people would still say "they'll need to see how BB19 does and then they'll make their final decision!", est. CBB18.

This is a dead horse lying on the ground. C5 can't ride on it anymore.

They should announce it's over this summer when CBB21 ends.

[Mrmattybeck]

Question is what would c5 replace it with and would it do better


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[LukeB]

Question is what would c5 replace it with and would it do better


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More benefit shows etc

[Barry.]

More benefit shows etc

Noooo.

[Eddie.]

not with the civilian BB level CBB ratings! axe ha already!

[pontyboi]

Last night got 1.53 (inc plus 1)

It was a good episode to plus was up against bigger shows so for it to rise is a good sign.

[supertv247]

At least it’s going in the right direction :shrug: it did have a lot of competition, 1.7m on C4, 2m on ITV and 6.4m on BBCOne

In terms of January CBB though, still terrible. It’s the exact same as the equivalent episode of summer CBB got but down 400k on last Jan

[Mrmattybeck]

I’m just making the most of it now pretty sure this will the last year of the show


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[T*]

And people would still say "they'll need to see how BB19 does and then they'll make their final decision!", est. CBB18.

This is a dead horse lying on the ground. C5 can't ride on it anymore.

They should announce it's over this summer when CBB21 ends.

this is some good ****ing tea

[LukeB]

People to turn off when dapper laughs arrives?

[Rob!]

A random nearly 200k rise? We’ll take it :laugh:

[LeatherTrumpet]

A random nearly 200k rise? We’ll take it :laugh:

The Dapper Effect


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[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.45m (7.4%)
Will and Grace: 1.29m (7.3%)
Celebrity Big Brother: 1.24m (8.2%)

[Mrmattybeck]

Ouch not good


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[HBIC]

Those are some terrible ratings.

[lewis111]

It's so dissappoiting
About 90% of comments on social media about this series are completely positive it's sad to see it get such low viewing figures - undeserved

[Eddie.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.45m (7.4%)
Will and Grace: 1.29m (7.3%)
Celebrity Big Brother: 1.24m (8.2%)

Now I really hope Johnny & Dapper come and save the ratings!
And mess @ Will & Grace getting 0.5 mil. higher than CBB.
C5 should have done last night's show in two parts tbh.

[supertv247]

Last years first Friday got 1.48 and 1.44 so the first episode is only very slightly down... However, that shouldn't be the case considering we had 8 new men entering this year while last year it was Jedward :(

[Rob!]

It’s not great obviously but can I also point out that BB was against the footie last night, which peaked at 7m.

[Calderyon]

https://tellymix-spykawebgroup.netdna-ssl.com/ts/800/450/tellymix-spykawebgroup.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/CBB_JessD.jpg

Jess is not impressed.

[Briancbbfan]

I think last night will for sure boost tonight's viewing figures though - the male casting was excellent.

[*mazedsalv**]

So, yes, it is pretty awful but i'm going to clutch at some straws now...

Last night being down on Thursday is odd, there was a lot of hype, so i can only put it down to being a Friday and being up against the football. The footie did surprisingly well, those sorts of matches barely get 4s usually.

Fridays have done very badly the last few series, just like Saturdays, could be the younger lot out, i'm not sure, but that could be to blame. Last Jan went from 1.97m to 1.44m from first Thursday to Friday... and like Super said, last years show got 1.5m, so similar to what last night was.

Even looking at Love Island's rating last year, Fridays was by far the lowest rated day for them, before surging back up on Sunday.

And one very big straw clutch... it was the highest rated Friday since CBB19 haha, only thing higher was CBB20 final which got 1.6m.

I may be quite optimistic,but i think we will see a climb tomorrow. I reckon tonight will be 1.10m and tomorrow will get 1.69m.

I think what we can hope for this series is that it can hold on to 1.5m throughout, as that gives them a chance to hit 2m officials hopefully.

The show was recieved very well last night, a lot of praise about the cast and editing, so if it doesn't take off, then, it doesn't take off. It's sods law that the show could be excellent, but the ratings just don't increase. It's liike that with a lot of things nowadays.

Makes me wonder, will C5 be happy with a low rated series but excellent reaction to those watching, or will they want CBB17 type ratings with the show getting huge backlash.

They need to choose, sadly, good series do not go hand in hand with good ratings. I mean, the fact the likes of CBB18 did well in the ratings compared to CBB20 is criminal to me. Does it mean people like Bear like characters? Well if that's the case, i bet C5 are hoping Daniel does something controversial.... you know, get that standard BB first week ejection...

[ethanjames]

oh god,,,, hopefully this will be a good last season then

[Jake.]

What backlash did CBB17 receive? :suspect:

[Eddie.]

What backlash did CBB17 receive? :suspect:

David's dead most likely.

[Jake.]

David's dead most likely.

Even then it wasn’t really significant? Sure, the clip of them telling her the news received criticism but the whole Angie/Tiff situation was pretty well received

[*mazedsalv**]

What backlash did CBB17 receive? :suspect:

No I'm saying, getting CBB17 type of ratings (eg. mid 2s). but having people moan about the show and how it's disgusting and a disgrace etc.... more like CBB18 really.

I wasn't talking about CBB17 getting backlash, what I'm saying is, lets say irt climbs half a million, but the reaction is not good compared to what it is now.

[*mazedsalv**]

Sorry to harp on about CBB, but excl +1 the show got...
Celebrity Big Brother (21:02-22:00): 1.43m (6.6%) exc. +1

And including it got 1.45m? So it got only 20k on +1? Is this correct? Seems odd.

[Jodie.]

I still think this series will have one of the biggest catchup audiences this year x

[LukeB]

I still think this series will have one of the biggest catchup audiences this year x

Wasn't that said for BB18 and that still flopped including the catch ups?

[*mazedsalv**]

BREAKING...

Ratings were WRONG.

Rzt made a typo on his part... the first show actually got 1.59m, NOT 1.45m.

Better!!

[Cal.]

Better!!!

[Jodie.]

Wasn't that said for BB18 and that still flopped including the catch ups?

Well yeah but everyone was saying it was the worst series ever and had lots of negativity for the first few weeks which would’ve made viewers already watching stop and stopped other viewers from catchingup if they missed the launch etc

[Jake.]

BREAKING...

Ratings were WRONG.

Rzt made a typo on his part... the first show actually got 1.59m, NOT 1.45m.

Better!!

Slay!

[Jake.]

Higher than last years first Friday then!

[*mazedsalv**]

Slay!

Odd how much a difference 150k makes!

[Jodie.]

Ooooo me likey but why did the second show drop so much? Was it just because it was on late?

[Cal.]

Now we just need Ann to become a crazy bitch and raise the ratings like Kim!

[Cal.]

Ooooo me likey but why did the second show drop so much? Was it just because it was on late?

People probably decided to watch it on catch up instead of waiting 30 mins

[Jake.]

Odd how much a difference 150k makes!

It just looks better doesn’t it

[*mazedsalv**]

Ooooo me likey but why did the second show drop so much? Was it just because it was on late?

Probably, it has always been the case, back in C4, sometimes the first show of an eviction would drop 1m in the interview episode. I don't think we need to worry about that second show drop. Friday late 2nd show ratings add a lot of timeshift. For me, for example, if i'm out on a Friday I'd watch the first hour, but would miss the 2nd part because i go out normally between 9:45pm and 10:30pm.

[Rob!]

Brilliant! The positivity this series has so far, I can’t see it dropping much more. Tonight is Saturday so I expect it’ll go sub 1m tonight, but from Sunday onwards, hopefully we’ll get some stability

[Smithy]

I still think this series will have one of the biggest catchup audiences this year x

Haven’t watched a single ep live myself, they’ve all been on catch up :pipe:

[supertv247]

Probably, it has always been the case, back in C4, sometimes the first show of an eviction would drop 1m in the interview episode. I don't think we need to worry about that second show drop. Friday late 2nd show ratings add a lot of timeshift. For me, for example, if i'm out on a Friday I'd watch the first hour, but would miss the 2nd part because i go out normally between 9:45pm and 10:30pm.

If I remember correctly, some fridays in CBB17 added about 400k to the first episode and 600k to the second, and the second usually ended up ahead of the first in official numbers

[HBIC]

The first show rating is better with +1. Still disappointing for the second show though.

Hopefully tonight manages at least 1.1m.

[Maxxie.]

Going against the voice tonight, why should it not start at 9:30?

[supertv247]

Going against the voice tonight, why should it not start at 9:30?

It used to avoid shows like this and xfactor... it’s such a similar audience too, it’ll definately hurt it :shrug:

[Eddie.]

I'm almost certain this series would rate high due to how GOOD it actually is.

[supertv247]

Last night's show averaged 1.4 million - up 200k on last year and the joint most watched Saturday episode in 2 years!!

[Cal.]

India has SAVED the show!

[supertv247]

I just realised it had a 30 minute clash with the voice which averaged 6 million. That's amazing :cheer2:

[HBIC]

The series having a ratings comeback :love:

Hopefully tonight's show can average at least 1.6m.

[supertv247]

The series having a ratings comeback :love:

Hopefully tonight's show can average at least 1.6m.

The first Sunday last year got 1.5 so if it's following suit, hopefully 1.7

[BBUK-Fan]

The show is gradually improving

[BBUK-Fan]

I looked at ratings on tellymix and saw it said 4.7 million but that was Celebrity Catchphrase

[Jake.]

Last night's show averaged 1.4 million - up 200k on last year and the joint most watched Saturday episode in 2 years!!

:shocked:

I’m actually shocked lol

[*mazedsalv**]

Great for a Saturday, hoping for at least 1.6m tonight.

[Jodie.]

Impressed! I actually think this series could be a slow burner for ratings and they’ll just grow and grow if they keep doing it right x

[Greg!]

Omg slay!

[Rob!]

Yas :clap1:

[*mazedsalv**]

Would love it to be over 1.6m tonight but there's a lot of competition.

McMafia on BBC, Vera on ITV, SAS Who Dares Wins on C4 and Ibiza Weekender on ITV2, the latter 2 which has a large young demo and the former 2 which have a large older skew.

So perhaps a big +1 rating.

[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.51m (6.6%)

[lewis111]

Not great but I'm just glad it's not become disastrous yet - this seems to be about on par with last year now

[Eddie.]

Big Brother's back! Im shook by the ratings increase.

[Rob!]

Didn’t disgrace itself, it had a lot of competition last night. Vera was over 7m (it’s best ever audience) and McMafia over 4m.

Meanwhile Dancing on Ice returned to 7.1m peaking at over 8m. Big Brother looks up at the clouds and sighs wistfully.

[LukeB]

Didn’t disgrace itself, it had a lot of competition last night. Vera was over 7m (it’s best ever audience) and McMafia over 4m.

Meanwhile Dancing on Ice returned to 7.1m peaking at over 8m. Big Brother looks up at the clouds and sighs wistfully.

This is what big brother needs to do! A few years break and make a massive deal with it returning.

[*mazedsalv**]

Wish it got 1.6m st least but it's OK. It was up against a lot. Also worth noting it was up 10k on the first Sunday of CBB19 which got 1.50m
So the past 3 days have been up on last January (Fridays first show, Saturday and Sunday).

But from then on last year it increased from the first Monday onwards. Hope it could do that this series too.

[Rob!]

Wish it got 1.6m st least but it's OK. It was up against a lot. Also worth noting it was up 10k on the first Sunday of CBB19 which got 1.50m
So the past 3 days have been up on last January (Fridays first show, Saturday and Sunday).

But from then on last year it increased from the first Monday onwards. Hope it could do that this series too.

Do you mean 100k?

[*mazedsalv**]

Do you mean 100k?

Nope 10k.

1.50m vs 1.51m

[Rob!]

Nope 10k.

1.50m vs 1.51m

Ah sorry I thought it was 1.4

[lewis111]

1.6m (7.3%) for last night

[lewis111]

1.31m excluding +1 so that's 290k from +1, seems a little more than usual?

[Jodie.]

Ratings rising since episode 2 :clap1:

[*mazedsalv**]

1.31m excluding +1 so that's 290k from +1, seems a little more than usual?

Sunday did the same. It got 1.21m excluding and 1.51m including so a climb of 300k.

It's what happens when the episode is good, trending etc...

[*mazedsalv**]

I want to know if it was 1.60m+ or 1.59m Or under as the previous high bar launch was Fridays 1.59m so if it got 1.60m+ It was highest rating since the launch.

[Jake.]

CBB: 1.64m (8.4%) inc +1

[Eddie.]

bravo.

[*mazedsalv**]

Highest since launch. 95 min show too. great share

[*mazedsalv**]

ratings since Saturday.

Saturday- 1.40m
Sunday- 1.51m
Monday- 1.57m
Tuesday- 1.64m

nice climbs

[Jodie.]

Slay @ the increase I just don’t want it to go down now lol

[Jake.]

CBB: 1.54m (7.4%)

[RichardG]

CBB: 1.64m (8.4%) inc +1

Slay @ the increase I just don’t want it to go down now lol

CBB: 1.54m (7.4%)

:skull:

hopefully plus 1 adds enough to yesterday to bring it back up haha

[lewis111]

The 1.54m is including +1
1.38m without

[*mazedsalv**]

1.54m is OK.

I knew it would be down due to increased competition. I think 1.6m for tonight and first show tomorrow.

tonight... 1.59m.
tomorrow... 1.60m. second show... 1.32m

1.6m will be the benchmark for the series imo. which i think will be 2.0-2.1m officially. Sure it'd be down on last year's 2.4m but OK due to the horrible year it's had.

as long as it beats last summer's 1.8m official and CBB16s 1.9m official.. it's OK.

Hope it also beats CBB14s and CBB18s 2.1m official but I don't think it will.

For all we know it could timeshift like crazy (600k+). Last January sometimes did that.

[Mrmattybeck]

An alright figure but Shame this series isn’t doing better


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[Rob!]

1.54m is OK.

I knew it would be down due to increased competition. I think 1.6m for tonight and first show tomorrow.

tonight... 1.59m.
tomorrow... 1.60m. second show... 1.32m

1.6m will be the benchmark for the series imo. which i think will be 2.0-2.1m officially. Sure it'd be down on last year's 2.4m but OK due to the horrible year it's had.

as long as it beats last summer's 1.8m official and CBB16s 1.9m official.. it's OK.

Hope it also beats CBB14s and CBB18s 2.1m official but I don't think it will.

For all we know it could timeshift like crazy (600k+). Last January sometimes did that.

I think it’s likely it could do fairly well on timeshift, certainly in the 2m range. I know quite a few people who discovered this series late and are watching on catchup

[Cal.]

When are we getting the twist with like 2 evictions and 3 new housemates in one night I wonder?

[Rob!]

When are we getting the twist with like 2 evictions and 3 new housemates in one night I wonder?

I’m going to be cautiously optimistic and say I don’t think they’d be that dumb. This series has been pretty much universally acclaimed.

[Jodie.]

I jinxed it sorry gals x

[Jodie.]

Any competition tonight?

[pontyboi]

Any competition tonight?

It's up against death in paradise and transformation street on channel 4 which I think may rate pretty good but shouldnt dent cbb.

[Mrmattybeck]

I predict around 1.3m tonight death in paradise is very popular


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[Jake.]

Celebrity Big Brother: 1.51m (7.3%)

Excl +1 I believe

[Will.]

1.7 with +1

[Greg!]

Yas at the increase! Was it a good ep last night? Haven't seen it yet

[lewis111]

Yas at the increase! Was it a good ep last night? Haven't seen it yet

'Twas decent, not a standout

[Rob!]

Yas at the increase! Was it a good ep last night? Haven't seen it yet

I really enjoyed it - first day of the shopping task and it’s a good one. Quite an old school type task I thought.

[Jodie.]

Yaasss - iirc didn’t CBB19’s ratings ratings start going up aswell around this point?

[lewis111]

Ratings to drop below 1m as soon as series saviour India is evicted tonight?

[Cal.]

Ratings to drop below 1m as soon as series saviour India is evicted tonight?

This is a certainty!

[Osjama]

Ratings to drop below 1m as soon as series saviour India is evicted tonight?

Yes

B.B. is cancelled unless we save our queen India https://media.giphy.com/media/3oFzmoCqKGqzvhFhNS/giphy.gif

[supertv247]

Yaasss - iirc didn’t CBB19’s ratings ratings start going up aswell around this point?

Correct, but slightly more so. The equivalent episode last year got 1.9 so still 200k short - and going into next week it needs to top 2 million a few times to keep up with last January..

[*mazedsalv**]

From rzt..

Celebrity Big Brother- 1.72m including +1

[Rob!]

:flutter:

I wonder if we might get a 2m overnight at some point tbh.

[Cal.]

To only be 400k from its launch episode in week 2 going into week 3 is great

[RileyH]

India did that
https://media.giphy.com/media/3oFzmoCqKGqzvhFhNS/giphy.gif

[Jodie.]

Live Eviction Part 1: 1.77m (9.1%)
Part 2: 1.16m (8.1%)

[BBUK-Fan]

Live Eviction Part 1: 1.77m (9.1%)
Part 2: 1.16m (8.1%)

They should just move Will and Grace to 10:30pm instead

[*mazedsalv**]

Great for 1st show. Agaain, highest since launch and a very good share.

Shame about 2nd show, Will and Grace ain't helping.. The split show in general isn't helping, but i assume catch-up figures for the 2nd show will be good.

[Jodie.]

Hmm do we think it’ll hit 2m in overnights if it just keeps growing x

[supertv247]

Live Eviction Part 1: 1.77m (9.1%)
Part 2: 1.16m (8.1%)

Will & Grace got 900k. It definitely has to move to 10:30pm and make cbb one show

[Rob!]

Hmm do we think it’ll hit 2m in overnights if it just keeps growing x

I doubt it now the most controversial housemate has gone tbh. That 1.77 may well be the peak. Tonight is the start of the Saturday splits. How did they go last year?

[*mazedsalv**]

Hmm do we think it’ll hit 2m in overnights if it just keeps growing x

Unless something big happens, i don't think so.

I am pretty sure they will now throw some of the C5 strategies to start rows eg. old DR clips etc...

[Eddie.]

Just axe Will & Grace, couldn't be bothered at all.

[supertv247]

I think it can still peak higher than last night, considering it was a Friday and they generally don't do as well as weekday shows can.

The 2 summer Saturday split shows got 381k & 258k on 5STAR and 593k & 577k on Channel 5, respectively. That was 974k and 835k altogether for those 2 Saturdays which is dire, so hopefully tonight does MUCH better...

I'm thinking 400k & 800k, roughly.. but it did get 1.4 last week so hopefully can reach that again

[T*]

Just axe Will & Grace, couldn't be bothered at all.

You shut your mouth!

[T*]

it’s the first time C5 actually have a good ‘inbetween’ program

[pontyboi]

That's bad for the second show but decent for the first with another small climb.

channel 5 are awful at scheduling though.

Tonight will dent it big time being on 5* then repeated at 10:30 on channel 5.

[*mazedsalv**]

I'll say 305k on 5* and 800k on C5 tonight.

[ethanjames]

why did they even air it on 5* yikes

[Jodie.]

Officials tomorrow I’m excited x

[Jodie.]

5STAR: 261k (1.4%)
5: 799k

Both inc +1 so 1.06m overall

[supertv247]

5STAR: 261k (1.4%)
5: 799k

Both inc +1 so 1.06m overall

Last years same episode had 1.4 million and last Saturday also had 1.4 million :( the weird scheduling probably still catches a lot of people out

[*mazedsalv**]

Last years same episode had 1.4 million and last Saturday also had 1.4 million :( the weird scheduling probably still catches a lot of people out

You didn't expect it to get that with a 5* look and a 10 30pm showing, did you? That was impossible.

5* is a channel that barely reaches 300k and 10 30pm on C5 is lucky to even reach half a million, so those ratings are expected.

I expect 1.50m tonight.

Officials tomorrow too.

[Rob!]

Lowest January rating ever unsurprisingly. They’ve shot themselves in the foot with the average with Friday’s split showing and then last night.

[supertv247]

You didn't expect it to get that with a 5* look and a 10 30pm showing, did you? That was impossible.

5* is a channel that barely reaches 300k and 10 30pm on C5 is lucky to even reach half a million, so those ratings are expected.

I expect 1.50m tonight.

Officials tomorrow too.

Of course not, but when there’s 4 chances to watch the show last night and it still manages to get the lowest jan rating ever, it’s not good.

[Rob!]

A channel that barely reaches 300k...you have to wonder what the point of it is?

[*mazedsalv**]

Lowest January rating ever unsurprisingly. They’ve shot themselves in the foot with the average with Friday’s split showing and then last night.

we shouldn't compare the split shows to ANY January because this is the first and only January which is doing this. you can't compare a 9pm C5 slot to a 9pm 5* and 10 30pm C5 slot.

If it was on at 9pm on C5 it would have been 1.2m+

it doesn't matter that people had 4 chances to watch it. 5* is watched by an average of 1% of the population as opposed to the average 6% for C5. So the reach for 5* is much less.

It's not comparable.

[*mazedsalv**]

Of course not, but when there’s 4 chances to watch the show last night and it still manages to get the lowest jan rating ever, it’s not good.

doesn't matter if there was 4 chances or 10 chances.

It's like expecting Corrie to still get 7m combined if you air 1 episode on ITV4 and then show a second look at 10 30 pm
when really it would get 1m on bbc4 and 4m at 10 30pm.

It's all about the 'reach'. Combined there is less peoplt watching 5* at 9pm and C5 at 10 30pm than there is watching on C5 at 9pm.

It is no way comparable. The split shows should only be compared to the split shows (BB18 and CBB20) and not surprisingly it was the highest for a 5*/c5 split show they have done.

[*mazedsalv**]

A channel that barely reaches 300k...you have to wonder what the point of it is?

looking on BARB. 5* highest rating of the final week of 2017 was 305k with +. So last night will definitely be bigger than that.

[lewis111]

Last Night CBB - 1.4m (6.3%)

[supertv247]

Down 110k on last week and 310k on last year
Least watched winter Sunday episode of all time

[RichardG]

winter cbb

1.4

didn't bb secrets and lies evictions get higher than that, like 1.7 or something, and we thought that was bad :shame:

[Oaker]

The viewers have spoken :clap1:

We want India back :clap1:

We want drama :clap1:

[supertv247]

Official ratings are in. (overnights in brackets + how much each ep has gained)

Tue - 2.40 (2.07) +330k
Wed - 1.87 (1.40) +470k
Thu - 2.05 (1.53) +520k
Frid - 2.07 (1.59) +480k
Frid - 1.74 (1.24) +500k
Sat - 2.00 (1.40) +600k
Sun - 2.04 (1.51) +530k

Average - 2.02 million


This average is down 300k on last January, down 700k on the January before that (CBB17) and down 1.1 million on the January before that, (CBB15) - it's even down 20k on summer (CBB20) which was the least watched series of all time

[T*]

...yikes

[Oaker]

This series is going to have the same average as BB14 :skull:

MESS not it actually being lower than CBB20 too

[Mrmattybeck]

Following the trend of most reality shows now decline decline decline


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[Rob!]

Most of the week over 2m is not something to sniff at though, plus next week will be even higher.

[*mazedsalv**]

This series is going to have the same average as BB14 :skull:

MESS not it actually being lower than CBB20 too

CBB20 fell quickly though. The last week of this series has been higher than the first week.

[*mazedsalv**]

For example Thursday and Friday first show should consolidate to almost 2.3m

[Oaker]

The second week will do better for sure but like the past few episodes have had awful overnights so it'll probably just fall back down again?

Also is it just me or are those catchup numbers really bad? :worry: I'm pretty sure CBB20 had higher timeshifts

[supertv247]

The second week will do better for sure but like the past few episodes have had awful overnights so it'll probably just fall back down again?

Also is it just me or are those catchup numbers really bad? :worry: I'm pretty sure CBB20 had higher timeshifts

The average catch up for week one of CBB20 was 600k and for week one of CBB21 its 490k so it is a little less.. but CBB20 had less episodes in the first week, didn't have a split Friday etc and was actually the most viewed series on catch up at that point.. so it could even out. Week 2 also fell to like 400k average so hopefully this series keeps it up or even starts getting more on catch up.

[Jodie.]

I feel like this series will be pretty consistent with the ratings so expecting a series average of 2m now, possibly 2.1 if something big happens

[RileyH]

:skull: @ the officials

[supertv247]

2.1 million for a January series :skull: that suggestion would’ve been laughed at 3 years ago when it was at 3.3 million, winter CBB was the crown jewel in the whole of Channel 5... now it’s no better than anything else. Before today, only 2 episodes of January CBB had rated below 2 million before, now another 2 have just in that last week :worry:

[Gstar]

CBB15s ratings were crazy

[jonnyblack]

Official ratings are in. (overnights in brackets + how much each ep has gained)

Tue - 2.40 (2.07) +330k
Wed - 1.87 (1.40) +470k
Thu - 2.05 (1.53) +520k
Frid - 2.07 (1.59) +480k
Frid - 1.74 (1.24) +500k
Sat - 2.00 (1.40) +600k
Sun - 2.04 (1.51) +530k

Average - 2.02 million


This average is down 300k on last January, down 700k on the January before that (CBB17) and down 1.1 million on the January before that, (CBB15) - it's even down 20k on summer (CBB20) which was the least watched series of all time

I mentioned on Twitter that I don’t think this averaging is correct. They should be time weighted rather than episode weighted otherwise you get into averaging averages and data quality drops.

Take a 90 minute episode. BARB would give each minute an equal weighting in the episode so the first 60 minutes would be 60/90 of the average and the last 30 minutes would contribute 30/90 to the average. The same should hold if an episode is split into two parts but in the above each episode is given an equal weighting.

If you effectively make each 30 minute episode worth half (so half the viewers but also the episodes drops by 0.5) you create an approach consistent with BARB and you also boost the average slightly. Makes for fairer comparisons between series which did not split episodes.

[Eddie.]

If only we could add YouTube views into the mix, though 25k additional people watching BB wouldn't help that much...