CBB21 Ratings Thread

[supertv247]

1.3 million last night

[pontyboi]

What did last nights episode get?

[supertv247]

1.3 million again, but 1.18 excluding +1 so probably on the underside of 1.3 :worry:

The final will be lucky to get 1.5 million and let's not even THINK about how bad the second episode will be. This week has even been down on CBB20 from summer, which ended with 1.58m on a Friday (but it wasn't split)

[pontyboi]

1.3 million again, but 1.18 excluding +1 so probably on the underside of 1.3 :worry:

The final will be lucky to get 1.5 million and let's not even THINK about how bad the second episode will be. This week has even been down on CBB20 from summer, which ended with 1.58m on a Friday (but it wasn't split)

Absolutely terrible!

The fact Friday's is split is a joke as is it not even being live!

Idiots.

[supertv247]

Last winter ended with 2.2m on a Friday and 2.7m the year before, also on a Friday. Yet I don't even expect tomorrow to match summers 1.6m

[RichardG]

:skull:

[*mazedsalv**]

CBB inc +1 Overnights

29/1- 1.46m (7.0%)
30/1- 1.32m (7.0%)
31/1- 1.33m (6.4%)

So after an OK rating on Monday it dropped suddenly. Awful.

Tonight I'll say 1.40m and i will say 1.47m for the first show tomorrow and 1.10m for the 2nd.....

The fact it will rate lower than CBB20s 1.56m....

Ouch OUCH

[HBIC]

These ratings are absolutely tragic. 1.3m? That's lower than what civilian BB was pulling in a couple years back.

[Natawho]

My heart

[*mazedsalv**]

These ratings are absolutely tragic. 1.3m? That's lower than what civilian BB was pulling in a couple years back.

BB17 was pulling in 1.2m ish daily with the occasional 1.3m+, but yeah anyway they are awful. Oh well.

[RichardG]

civ bb is gonna rate so bad :omgno:

[Natawho]

civ bb is gonna rate so bad :omgno:

One of the housemates will still say "Can't believe millions of people just saw that" :hehe:

[supertv247]

These ratings are absolutely tragic. 1.3m? That's lower than what civilian BB was pulling in a couple years back.

BB14 averaged 1.5 million overnight :worry:

[Mrmattybeck]

The ratings system seriously need updating I don’t believe for a second numbers are that low especially such a drop in two years


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[MTVN]

What did it get last night?

Has anyone ever worked out the average audience share for the last few series? Would show if viewing habits have had much impact

[pontyboi]

Any news on last nights rating?

[HBIC]

Excluding +1, 1.22m (6.2%)

Couldn’t find the +1 rating

[pontyboi]

Excluding +1, 1.22m (6.2%)

Couldn’t find the +1 rating

Most likely then another 1.3 or 1.4....but they don't usually release plus 1 figures if they are under 50k.

The share atleast is way up on its usual programming but with it being such a costly show and that's not only millions spent in celebs, millions spent on the contract and paying Emma, rylan and all the staff who work around the clock to keep it going.

I'm afraid this is the last year guys they would be idiots to keep it.

However with the changes in ratings system coming in March could this be the year civilian bb could be a suprise hit?

[Rob!]

Surprisingly decent for the final

C5 inc +1
CBB: 1.57m (8.3%)
Will and Grace: 924k (5.8%)
CBB Final: 1.45m (10.6%)

[Jake.]

C5 inc +1
CBB: 1.57m (8.3%)
Will and Grace: 924k (5.8%)
CBB Final: 1.45m (10.6%)

[lewis111]

Better than I was expecting

[T*]

It didn’t even touch 2m for the final omg

[Gstar]

Awful and glad this series is over

[lewis111]

I mean ever the first show was more than 200k down on CBB20, and overall it's about 700k down on last winter CBB

[Jake.]

Surprisingly decent for the final

C5 inc +1
CBB: 1.57m (8.3%)
Will and Grace: 924k (5.8%)
CBB Final: 1.45m (10.6%)

C5 inc +1
CBB: 1.57m (8.3%)
Will and Grace: 924k (5.8%)
CBB Final: 1.45m (10.6%)

Oh her eyes lit up then, didn’t they? You little bitch!

[Underscore]

bb cancelled

[Rob!]

Oh her eyes lit up then, didn’t they? You little bitch!

*whitney pointing gif*

[Rob!]

Plus, yes the ratings are low for a Winter series but tbh considering all series the split shows have been disastrous, last night was actually quite high. That share for the second show is really good.

[*mazedsalv**]

Low for winter but for a late slot even for a final that's quite good for 2nd show.

That double digit share too is great.

[*mazedsalv**]

I mean ever the first show was more than 200k down on CBB20, and overall it's about 700k down on last winter CBB

CBB20 final got 1.58m didn't it?

[*mazedsalv**]

It didn’t even touch 2m for the final omg

Why would it considering the biggest rating bar launch that this year got was 1.77m?

[Mrmattybeck]

A little better than I expected but still awful for January dread to see how low summer bbuk will go


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[supertv247]

A little better than I expected for the second show which held up well and got a decent share, good in context of the series.

Overall though, down 600k on last winter and the least watched final ever with the first show being 10k down on summer :(

[LukeB]

:skull: those are quite poor ratings. Its probably ok to have least watched winter final but least watched final ever is awful.

[*mazedsalv**]

A little better than I expected but still awful for January dread to see how low summer bbuk will go


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Perhaps civilian. But I'm starting to think just like C4, the difference between winter and summer will be smaller.

For all we know we could be getting similar ratings for CBB22? Optimistic though.

It's just a c5 thing that winter has been much higher than summer. Perhaps just like c4, the difference will be small? I know BB outrated quite a few CBBs pre BB8.

I think the launch of BB19 if promoted well could be bigger than BB18s 1.3m. That was always going to struggle when it started the same day as LI and clashed with Corrie.

Also this series ended positively so the post final feelings are higher than I remember I think a lot of people who watched this series will give BB19 a go.?

[lewis111]

CBB20 final got 1.58m didn't it?

Oh yeah my mistake it was 1.8m in officials

[Gstar]

Hopefully this is just a blip. CBB15 bounced back from CBB14 with over a million viewer increase.

We want messy housemates, fights, sex and controversy (to put it bluntly)

The only controversy this series had was a dragged out battle of Gay/trans/womens rights which was cute for a few days, not the entire series, which can also be the main reason for the lack of viewers as it’s a touchy subject (and not in a good way, just a bit awks, and like I said it was dragged out for the entire series) There were no other interesting storylines, another reason why I stopped watching, along with the 800k viewers who also tapped out compared to last year.

They can’t be pulling off risky stunts like this, it’s not 2002. Also, people are getting confused as to why a lot of us didn’t like the series, stating that we like all the TOWIE crap. No. The new format/editing is great, just a weak housemate selection

You can have the best house, tasks, eye etc. It’s the housemates who make it. BB4 was the aftermath of BB3 when BB was probably the most popular show in the country at the time, they had everything perfectly planned.. apart from the housemate selection which was very weak. And then for BB5 they learned from their mistakes and seen a big increase in ratings

We want drama, entertainment, interesting people. Not a group of housemates who went to bed at 10pm every night

To the people praising this series as one of the best, you’re not helping. You’re making producers think that this is what the viewers want when it clearly isn’t. Love Island is coming for everyones wig this year and we cannot afford to have a series like this again

[LukeB]

I think India was the only controversial character but not that controversial and after she went it the ratings went down. I think this series would have rated higher if they were more controversial stuff going on and bigger characters. But some say some of the viewers are from Courtney's fans.

[supertv247]

The main reason this series rated so badly is because of overexposure, then along with a massively risky twist that turned thousands away before it even started. The housemates were really good, but maybe a step too far in the other direction from what viewers are used to. The series however has proved that C5 can still pull off a well polished and greatly empowering show if they want to. They just need to get the perfect mix next time

[LukeB]

Hopefully this is just a blip. CBB15 bounced back from CBB14 with over a million viewer increase.

We want messy housemates, fights, sex and controversy (to put it bluntly)

The only controversy this series had was a dragged out battle of Gay/trans/womens rights which was cute for a few days, not the entire series, which can also be the main reason for the lack of viewers as it’s a touchy subject (and not in a good way, just a bit awks, and like I said it was dragged out for the entire series) There were no other interesting storylines, another reason why I stopped watching, along with the 800k viewers who also tapped out compared to last year.

They can’t be pulling off risky stunts like this, it’s not 2002. Also, people are getting confused as to why a lot of us didn’t like the series, stating that we like all the TOWIE crap. No. The new format/editing is great, just a weak housemate selection

You can have the best house, tasks, eye etc. It’s the housemates who make it. BB4 was the aftermath of BB3 when BB was probably the most popular show in the country at the time, they had everything perfectly planned.. apart from the housemate selection which was very weak. And then for BB5 they learned from their mistakes and seen a big increase in ratings

We want drama, entertainment, interesting people. Not a group of housemates who went to bed at 10pm every night

To the people praising this series as one of the best, you’re not helping. You’re making producers think that this is what the viewers want when it clearly isn’t. Love Island is coming for everyones wig this year and we cannot afford to have a series like this again

it was a good series for discussions and stuff which is what big brother is all about but that i think the cast could have been better. I think we got these discussions because of the theme so and it would have happened with any cast imo. A series needs to have memorable moments and i don't think this series had any other than I'M A WOMAN from India.

[Gstar]

In all respect to the producers they probably thought people like Ginuwine, Jess, Malika and Jonny would have delivered more. If that’s the case then, unlucky. But they still didn’t need to have so many irrels and then turn down people like Natalie Nunn?

[supertv247]

Week 4 officials are in, one more set to go to complete the series after this...

The series average so far is 1.92 million making it the 3rd least watched ever (CBB16 = 1.89 and CBB20 =1.80)

Overnights are in brackets

Mon - 1.92m (1.41)
Tue - 1.61m (1.20)
Wed - 1.97m (1.47)
Thu - 1.93m (1.46)
Frid - 1.83m (1.46)
Frid - 1.37m (943k)
Sat - 1.63m (1.00)
Sun - 1.88m (1.35)

That second Friday show pulled the week average down more than 600k :skull: split shows need to go

Behind the Scenes averaged 720k which is more than any episode of BOTS has had in 3 years

[Jodie.]

Omg not a Winter CBB averaging the same as BB14

[Greg!]

Screaming

[Greg!]

At least it beat CBB20

[supertv247]

I'm telling you I think this year will be the year BBUK starts dominating over CBB again..

[LukeB]

At least it beat CBB20

But CBB18 beats CBB21.

[Maxxie.]

Perhaps civilian. But I'm starting to think just like C4, the difference between winter and summer will be smaller.

For all we know we could be getting similar ratings for CBB22? Optimistic though.

It's just a c5 thing that winter has been much higher than summer. Perhaps just like c4, the difference will be small? I know BB outrated quite a few CBBs pre BB8.

I think the launch of BB19 if promoted well could be bigger than BB18s 1.3m. That was always going to struggle when it started the same day as LI and clashed with Corrie.

Also this series ended positively so the post final feelings are higher than I remember I think a lot of people who watched this series will give BB19 a go.?

Apparently it peaked at 3m, I believe somewhere in the 8:30 - 9:00 slot as well, so maybe earlier starts and clashing with showd like corrie may not be too bad.

[BBUK-Fan]

I think civilian BB could be a real hit if promoted correctly

[BBUK-Fan]

I think the housemates were great but we need more controversial characters

[Jack_]

I'm telling you I think this year will be the year BBUK starts dominating over CBB again..

What a turn up for the books that'd be :hehe: Ben Frow would be fuming

Can't see it happening though

[Marches]

I think the housemates were great but we need more controversial characters

We had one

It went hone first

[LukeB]

We had one

It went hone first

She* she is a woman not an object.

[Rob!]

Week 4 officials are in, one more set to go to complete the series after this...

The series average so far is 1.92 million making it the 3rd least watched ever (CBB16 = 1.89 and CBB20 =1.80)

Overnights are in brackets

Mon - 1.92m (1.41)
Tue - 1.61m (1.20)
Wed - 1.97m (1.47)
Thu - 1.93m (1.46)
Frid - 1.83m (1.46)
Frid - 1.37m (943k)
Sat - 1.63m (1.00)
Sun - 1.88m (1.35)

That second Friday show pulled the week average down more than 600k :skull: split shows need to go

Behind the Scenes averaged 720k which is more than any episode of BOTS has had in 3 years

And yet name me two other channel 5 shows getting those ratings.

[Denver]

And yet name me two other channel 5 shows getting those ratings.

Can't pay we will take It away and on benefits are easily able to pull in those figures per episode with the former being able to hit close to 3 million

[HBIC]

The fact that cbb18 is outrating this series is just tragic

[LukeB]

And yet name me two other channel 5 shows getting those ratings.

can't pay we'll take it away
Blind Date

Benefit shows seems to be a ratings hit. C5s audience share grew last year and BB was mentioned so it seems they can survive with it and has stuff that can replace it.

[Jodie.]

And yet name me two other channel 5 shows getting those ratings.

I don’t think the problem for C5 is that they can’t get shows to get them ratings (even if it doesn’t happen often), but I think the problem is the consistency. What’s gonna get them 1.5m+ every night for 4 weeks, then 9-10, then another 4?

[pontyboi]

I don’t think the problem for C5 is that they can’t get shows to get them ratings (even if it doesn’t happen often), but I think the problem is the consistency. What’s gonna get them 1.5m+ every night for 4 weeks, then 9-10, then another 4?

That's not the problem though CBB especially is so expensive to run ratings mean jack **** when they are losing money.

[LukeB]

I don’t think the problem for C5 is that they can’t get shows to get them ratings (even if it doesn’t happen often), but I think the problem is the consistency. What’s gonna get them 1.5m+ every night for 4 weeks, then 9-10, then another 4?

C4 did it and C5 won't be any different. CBB is so expensive to run like pontyboi said so losing money is bad for them and they ran out of budget this series hence the pirated version of power point was used.

[Jason.]

And yet name me two other channel 5 shows getting those ratings.

Just STOP, alright?

You can enjoy the show, but those ratings are embarrassing, so stop justifying them!

[RichardG]

we were probably using the same argument of 'it's good for c5' to justify bb14 only getting 1.8m for eviction nights or whatever the figures were

[pontyboi]

we were probably using the same argument of 'it's good for c5' to justify bb14 only getting 1.8m for eviction nights or whatever the figures were

Sallie axels eviction got over 2 million and if they didn't have a split final the series may have averaged 2 million....after doing it for years they still haven't learned.

When it comes to other programmes the x files for instance got 3.5 million in overnights alone probably up to 4 million in officials which Eastenders gets on bbc1 that's nuts.

When some episodes of cbb are getting under a million it's time to give it up but I do have a feeling the civilian bb this year will be a success.....I feel it in my waters.

[Marches]

Ik a lot of people that didn’t watch past like 4 episodes last year because a lot of the cast was trash that could prob qual as z listers for cbb, they need to be more consistent with casting

[Rob!]

Just STOP, alright?

You can enjoy the show, but those ratings are embarrassing, so stop justifying them!

Why don’t you MAKE me you hag?

[pontyboi]

Ik a lot of people that didn’t watch past like 4 episodes last year because a lot of the cast was trash that could prob qual as z listers for cbb, they need to be more consistent with casting

Plus it was supposed to be the year of Britain celebrating all cultures yet we ended up with a few normal housemates and the rest had agents and had appeared on other reality shows it was a joke.

They did actually stick to the theme this year and done it well I must say but the damage has been done.

[Marches]

Plus it was supposed to be the year of Britain celebrating all cultures yet we ended up with a few normal housemates and the rest had agents and had appeared on other reality shows it was a joke.

They did actually stick to the theme this year and done it well I must say but the damage has been done.

Yeah it’s a shame the one year they get everything right most of the nation has stopped caring

[T*]

casting wise they really need to get a diverse group of housemates where there personalities clash but also go together like say the casting from BB6 and BB7. They need to actually get real people instead of being like ‘oh woe is me we have no hms’ and dipping into casting agencies when there is actually people that want to go in

[pontyboi]

casting wise they really need to get a diverse group of housemates where there personalities clash but also go together like say the casting from BB6 and BB7. They need to actually get real people instead of being like ‘oh woe is me we have no hms’ and dipping into casting agencies when there is actually people that want to go in

Are you serious? Bb6 having a diverse cast? Lol they were all the same they were just nasty fame seeking people with the exact same personalities. Bb7 got it spot on though.

[*mazedsalv**]

can't pay we'll take it away
Blind Date

Benefit shows seems to be a ratings hit. C5s audience share grew last year and BB was mentioned so it seems they can survive with it and has stuff that can replace it.

Blind Date?

You must be thinking of the first 2 episodes.

The last few Saturdays it has been under 750k overnights.

Can't Pay has dropped too as the Benefit shows have due to overexposure.

the only thing that was on the same wavelength as this years CBB was The Yorkshire Vet and Cruising with Jane (don't know how).

Everything has fell a lot.

[*mazedsalv**]

If you strip out the 2nd show Friday, the series average officially would have been 2m. FACT.

So, maybe they should learn from that, i don't get why they do it and sandwich a show uncapable to reach 800k in between.

[*mazedsalv**]

The fact that cbb18 is outrating this series is just tragic

It just proves that the younger audience love sex, why else do you think all those shows like Geordie, Love Island and The Valleys was so popular?

It's sad, but there is a big portion of under 30s watching CBB and a lot of them may not have wanted to see debates in this current political climate.

[Oaker]

CBB15 is the most popular CBB and there was no sex or showmances in that series :shrug:

People just want drama and shouting matches, crazy personalities, villains they love to hate.

[*mazedsalv**]

CBB15 is the most popular CBB and there was no sex or showmances in that series :shrug:

People just want drama and shouting matches, crazy personalities, villains they love to hate.

But then again CBB13 was the 2nd most popular and it was dominated with a love triangle 50% of the time with the other half Jim vs Linda.

[supertv247]

C5s share did rise last year and no CBB wasn’t mentioned in it, but like said above, consistency is key. CBB getting 1.5-2m for 60 nights of the year helps hold that share up, without it their share would have been nowhere near what it is for the channel as a whole. Even if CBB isn’t at the peak of it anymore it’s still a massive part of the support

[Marches]

I’m conflicted with the housemates this series but if anything it was cbb21’s only weakness, things got stale in certain aspects and there was no real conflict or drama, nobody really changed or evolved as a character, nobody caved in. It just lacked any real edge tho I do appreciate that this cast for the most part is the most intelligent set of housemates yet which was a breath of fresh air

If you slapped a few kim woodburn types in that house over the more disposable ones the series could’ve been perfect. You would’ve seen different sides of people like Andrew, Shane jenek, Daniel, malika, Ann, Ashley ect ect ect emerge as a result and it’d have been a lot more engaging to watch than it was

[pontyboi]

If you strip out the 2nd show Friday, the series average officially would have been 2m. FACT.

So, maybe they should learn from that, i don't get why they do it and sandwich a show uncapable to reach 800k in between.

Obviously I agree with you on the terrible decision to split the shows but will and Grace is a success it got 1.29 I recall for its first episode and didn't the last show get 950k? So officially would probably bring it over 1 million.

[pontyboi]

CBB15 is the most popular CBB and there was no sex or showmances in that series :shrug:

People just want drama and shouting matches, crazy personalities, villains they love to hate.

Wasn't cbb13 the most popular? It actually got extended that's how popular it was and Lee ryans eviction was pushing 4 million.

[pontyboi]

C5s share did rise last year and no CBB wasn’t mentioned in it, but like said above, consistency is key. CBB getting 1.5-2m for 60 nights of the year helps hold that share up, without it their share would have been nowhere near what it is for the channel as a whole. Even if CBB isn’t at the peak of it anymore it’s still a massive part of the support

But those ratings don't justify the millions it costs.

It's gone imo and hopefully to itv2!

[HBIC]

The last week of CBB13 is insane.

Sat - 2.61m
Sun - 3.63m
Mon - 3.49m
Tue - 3.41m
Wed - 3.71m (final)

According to Wiki, it's also the first final since BB7 to out-rate the launch (3.69m). There was such a buzz around CBB13, it felt like it was on Channel 4.

[supertv247]

The last week of CBB13 is insane.

Sat - 2.61m
Sun - 3.63m
Mon - 3.49m
Tue - 3.41m
Wed - 3.71m (final)

According to Wiki, it's also the first final since BB7 to out-rate the launch (3.69m). There was such a buzz around CBB13, it felt like it was on Channel 4.

It’s halved :bawling:

[pontyboi]

It’s halved :bawling:

For a Saturday to get 2.61 is insane! Sadly it's more than halved!

[HBIC]

Does anyone remember when the CBB8 launch got something like 5.1 million viewers

Imagine if that series was actually good, we may have been looking at a 3.5m-4m average if it held on to the audience like CBB13 or CBB15 did.

[LukeB]

Does anyone remember when the CBB8 launch got something like 5.1 million viewers

Imagine if that series was actually good, we may have been looking at a 3.5m-4m average if it held on to the audience like CBB13 or CBB15 did.

tbf that was because it was on a new channel, losing 2 million viewers the next day :skull:

When something is axed and comes back it tends to get good ratings and drops a lot.

[Jason.]

I remember people talking about CBB13 and CBB15 the next day. I think the last time that happened was during BB8, and even then, that was just people complaining about how it wasn't as good as the previous year. :laugh:

Those two series are probably the closest thing we'll ever get to the golden era on C5.

[pontyboi]

Does anyone remember when the CBB8 launch got something like 5.1 million viewers

Imagine if that series was actually good, we may have been looking at a 3.5m-4m average if it held on to the audience like CBB13 or CBB15 did.

Brilliant launch night but to me the worst cbb series ever!

It was so bad with jedward leaving the house to go shopping, constant music compilations and a truly boring cast.

It just broke all the fundamental rules of big brother which they adopted from bb11 imo.

It sucked more than any things ever sucked before.

[pontyboi]

I remember people talking about CBB13 and CBB15 the next day. I think the last time that happened was during BB8, and even then, that was just people complaining about how it wasn't as good as the previous year. :laugh:

Those two series are probably the closest thing we'll ever get to the golden era on C5.

Cbb9 was pretty awesome though lol.

[supertv247]

Final officials are in

Mon - 1.87m
Tue - 1.69m
Wed - 1.87m
Thu - 1.81m
Frid - 1.77m
Frid - 1.73m

The FULL series average is 1.896 million (so 1.9m) which puts it 100k above CBB20 and *just* above CBB16 (which rounded to 1.89), but it is still the least watched winter series ever by 0.5 million

[BBUK-Fan]

Final officials are in

Mon - 1.87m
Tue - 1.69m
Wed - 1.87m
Thu - 1.81m
Frid - 1.77m
Frid - 1.73m

The FULL series average is 1.896 million (so 1.9m) which puts it 100k above CBB20 and *just* above CBB16 (which rounded to 1.89), but it is still the least watched winter series ever by 0.5 million

It's a good improvement

[pontyboi]

It's a good improvement

No it's not it's dreadful.