Doctor Who: Series 11

[Headie]

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Ugh honestly I wish Yaz was the only companion this year, she's miles better than the other two!

[Marsh.]

I forgot to mention, one thing I hate is the new time rotor.

Like if they wanted it to be a crystal, they could've had it like amber with a light glowing within it. But the crystal moving up and down like some fetish dildo looks awful. Really bad.

[Scarlett.]

I forgot to mention, one thing I hate is the new time rotor.

Like if they wanted it to be a crystal, they could've had it like amber with a light glowing within it. But the crystal moving up and down like some fetish dildo looks awful. Really bad.

I really don't like the look of the crystals, they look really cheaply done

[Marsh.]

Yeah, the idea is great but the execution is poor.

[Scarlett.]

It's the white look of them, and how they have a light source inside of them, they make me think more of Blackpool Illuminations than of giant space crystals.

I'm starting to get an idea of what kind of Doctor Thirteen is now, I've noticed several times she's seemed more vulnerable and has more self doubt that the recent ones. She also seems more human like the Tenth Doctor, but without the inflated ego.

[Strictly Jake]

Oh man. I watched the most recent episode last night

It honestly was one of the most powerful things I personally have seen on telly for a while

The ones saying rosa parks isn't taught that much in UK schools your sort of right, I had heard of her but didn't know the full story. So not only was it a powerful touching episode it was also an educational one

It was a very different take on an episode of Doctor who as it wasn't to do with aliens it was to do with making sure things run how they were supposed to(it felt more like an episode of timeless than doctor who but a lot better)

Those end scenes though had me in tears. It was really powerful I felt and when the Andra Day song played that left me Speechless for a good while after even seeing the asteroid was a beautiful moment too

All in all it was fantastic

I also felt it was to silence the whole the doctor can't be a woman speeches that are still going on. It made me feel guilty for being one of those people because why shouldn't a woman be the doctor. I think Jodie herself has silenced people anyway because she has been really great so far she is my 3rd favourite doctor at the moment

1 David
2 Matt
3 Jodie

But she has potential to overstep Matt for me. I hated Matt at first but grew to love him, whereas it's only been a few episodes and I have loved Jodie so the more the series goes on i think she will overtake him. But noone will ever beat David Tennant for me it's not possible...

[Nicky91]

spiders :flutter:

[MB.]

White supremacist James Dean impersonators from the future :flutter:

[Nicky91]

White supremacist James Dean impersonators from the future :flutter:

who sounds russian in their name, Krasko :laugh:


but we won't see him again, unless the doctor goes to the 17th century :fan:

[Oliver_W]

who sounds russian in their name, Krasko :laugh:


but we won't see him again, unless the doctor goes to the 17th century :fan:

I wouldn't be surprised if he came back later for revenge. They could make some rubbish up, like Time Agents have an SOS device for if their Vortex Manipulators get damaged, so he went back to the agency and got a new one, and was seeking out the Doctor to pay her back.

I avoid spoilers so I don't know or want to know at this point, but I think it's possible.

[Nicky91]

I wouldn't be surprised if he came back later for revenge. They could make some rubbish up, like Time Agents have an SOS device for if their Vortex Manipulators get damaged, so he went back to the agency and got a new one, and was seeking out the Doctor to pay her back.

I avoid spoilers so I don't know or want to know at this point, but I think it's possible.

could be possible yeah, but he did lose all of his equipment, right

:think:

[Nicky91]

oh lol i now realized they sent Krasko to the same time zone where they also sent his equipment/weapons to :o

[Marsh.]

I wouldn't be surprised if he came back later for revenge.

:hehe:

[Headie]

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A Captain Jack return wouldn't really work considering Jack is ageless and John Barrowman certainly isn't

[Mokka]

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A Captain Jack return wouldn't really work considering Jack is ageless and John Barrowman certainly isn't

But I could see his character being recast :think:
I almost thought they had on the last episode... until I realized it was just a big racist twat lol

Also... really loving this new series :flutter:

[Scarlett.]

Doesn't Jack actually age though? But like really, really slowly? It could be a much older Jack

[Headie]

Doesn't Jack actually age though? But like really, really slowly? It could be a much older Jack

Oh yeah I think he does actually, didn’t they hint to him being the Face of Boe

[Marsh.]

Yeah, he's immortal but he will age.

I suppose like Cassandra he'll adapt over time. :laugh:

[Nicky91]

so perched for this tonight :love:

[Morgan.]

Loving this!

[Denver]

It's so nice to not actually have a alien or monster

[Morgan.]

1. Rosa
2. Arachnids in the UK
3. The Ghost Monument
4. The Woman Who Fell to Earth

[Rob!]

Decent episode. A tad bonkers and I'm not sure exactly what the resolution was supposed to be, but it was good fun. I wonder if I'd have enjoyed it as much if the "monster" had been a different creature that didn't creep me out as much. I also thought it was quite odd that the Doctor decided that forcing all the spiders to starve to death would be more humane and dignified than shooting them.
Overall though, a fun episode. 7/10.

[Glenn.]

I thought the episode was ok. Bit scattered in places but overall a good story. I hate spiders so much though

[MB.]

I thought that was the best episode yet by quite a long way

[Oliver_W]

That was the best episode of this series so far :D

Still not sure about JW, she comes off as a bit "try-hard", but she's fine.

[Oliver_W]

Bradley Walsh really is the best thing about the show right now. I hope he lasts three episodes fewer than JW, his character dies to save her, and then she regenerates into him as "tribute" or whatever, so he can be the Doctor.

[MB.]

...yeah let's not

[Morgan.]

Bradley Walsh really is the best thing about the show right now. I hope he lasts three episodes fewer than JW, his character dies to save her, and then she regenerates into him as "tribute" or whatever, so he can be the Doctor.

Bradley Walsh really isn't the best thing about the show. The TARDIS has more personality.

[Oliver_W]

Bradley Walsh really isn't the best thing about the show. The TARDIS has more personality.

The other three members of "Team Tardis" are fine too, don't get me wrong.

[Marsh.]

I've decided I don't like the opening titles, they're executed quite poorly.

The purple at the beginning is still great though.

[Marsh.]

Watching now, Jodie is settling in nicely and I think I'm gonna love her pretty soon.

[Marsh.]

Omg! I can't cope with this!!!

[Oliver_W]

Omg! I can't cope with this!!!

I bet children across the country won't want baths after this episode!

[Marsh.]

A prick hotel owner. Loving the subtlety with that one. :)

[Marsh.]

The spiders marching to the grime music. :laugh2:

[Marsh.]

God, DS are very precious about their Doctor Who aren't they?

They don't like it lightweight and a bit silly. Isn't that the show's default position?

[Scarlett.]

Really enjoyed this week, felt very much like an RTD era episode

[Marsh.]

Wasn't shooting it better for it? I don't understand did 13 think it better to let it slowly suffocate?

[Scarlett.]

It might have been better if she'd had some sort of plan, but couldn't execute it thanks to President Sugar

[Marsh.]

So, did Trump get to just continue his hotel with the toxic waste underneath it? :think:

[Oaker]

I think it was commentary on how Trump always gets away with everything?

[Oliver_W]

A prick hotel owner. Loving the subtlety with that one. :)

haha he was written so cartoonishly bad it looped right back around and he was kind of loveable.

I agree that shooting the big spider was nicer than just letting it slowly choke to death. And how was the Doctor's plan any better - before they saw the big spider, they were on their way to get chemicals from the spa, so were they gonna poison the spiders?! Yeah that's much nicer than a quick bullet, well done Doc!

[Marsh.]

It was a nice touch that they said he hated Trump. That alone made him likeable. :joker:

[LukeB]

I've started watching this again because I like Jodie and I have to say Jodie is doing a good job.

I hope she's changed peoples minds because people were moaning at a female being a doctor when she was announced even though the doctor is a humanoid alien and not a certain gender, she is doing a great job like the others.

[Headie]

Watching tonight's ep now, bye @ Grace only returning as a background blur

[Marsh.]

Watching tonight's ep now, bye @ Grace only returning as a background blur

Queen of Blurs!!

[Oliver_W]

The day was won by the Last of the Grime Lords, the Oncoming Stormzy!

[Strictly Jake]

It was ok. But some of the script writing is downright embarrassing...I'm taking about the scenes in yaz's house

The spiders were really creepy it made me itch

What I'm confused by is yeah they led all the spiders to the panic room(courtesy of Stormzy lol, Camelphat panic room would have been hilarious!) But what did they plan on doing with them in there I missed that point it kind of didn't end? Or did I not watch properly. The big spider died and then they were all discussing whether to get in the tardis or not I felt like some scenes had been missed. Also did the doctor actually save anyone in this episode or did she just open doors with her sonic screwdriver

It felt like it was everyone else that intervened

I'm missing the cybermen Dalek type stories

Spiders in Sheffield also is just a bit cringe, although that title would have worked better than arachnids in the UK

After the brilliant rosa parks story I was underwhelmed

[Oliver_W]

I think the plan was to lock 'em up in the panic room and leave them to kill each other or starve. Because that's much more compassionate than shooting them.

[Nicky91]

good episode, and Chris Noth as that jack robertson :laugh: i know him from many movies, he's a good actor :)

[Scarlett.]

It's kinda funny how quickly /r/gallifrey went from hating Moffat to hating Chibnall and wanting Moffat back...

[Morgan.]

Rumours circulating that the Christmas special has been axed in favour of a New Years special.

[Oliver_W]

Urgh. Mediocre scripts, mediocre Doctor, possibly no season next year, and now no Christmas special? I miss the reliability of RTD...

[Jarrod]

Urgh. Mediocre scripts, mediocre Doctor, possibly no season next year, and now no Christmas special? I miss the reliability of RTD...

I'm enjoying this series so far and I think Jodie is a great Doctor. The no special rumour was squashed and it's happening - there's 100% a special but they might be bumping it to NYE/NYD instead of having it too close to the end of S10. I think it's a good idea, I always miss the Christmas episode on the day because of how much is going on so I think moving it to NYD is a good idea - you'll get a greater viewer figure etc.

As for having no series, It won't be down to Chibnall if there's no series next year, that'll be a decision from above him at the BBC in terms of production costs. However I'm pretty sure that also got squashed by some online CV's etc of producers who are already starting work on S11 for 2018-2019.

Plus, if they start filming in January, it usually takes 8 or 9 months from start to finish to film and edit the series which means it would be ready for an October release, like this year. The only reason it felt like they were filming for so long this time around was because of the regeneration scene, Children In Need got added and they had a large break between filming.

[Morgan.]

I've done so much reminiscing on Doctor Who this week, and it's a shame I never feel the same excitement I used to. I remember the anticipation leading up to Journeys End was unbeatable, knowing all of the Doctor Who Universe would unite and I'd give anything to live that excitement again.

Also lots of hypothetical things, like how much more incredible the 50th Anniversary would've been if Elisabeth Sladen was still around, and what would've come of SJA (I know at least one more series was planned) and her interactions with Peter and possibly Jodie.

I'm glad Jodie resparked my interest though, I feel a new kind of excitement before each Saturday.

[Oliver_W]

To each their own I guess - I really like Capaldi, but that seemed to be a bit of a minority view.

JW is fine, but she's just kind of ... There. She hasn't had an awesome "THERE'S the Doctor!" type moment, she just meanders through the stories.

[Liam-]

The recent episode ****ed me up, it was so good.

I’m loving Jodie so far, the whole show feels completely fresh, the vibe of it is amazing, I’m missing the more comedy driven scripts at times, but it’s a great mixture right now.

[Jarrod]

I've done so much reminiscing on Doctor Who this week, and it's a shame I never feel the same excitement I used to. I remember the anticipation leading up to Journeys End was unbeatable, knowing all of the Doctor Who Universe would unite and I'd give anything to live that excitement again.

Also lots of hypothetical things, like how much more incredible the 50th Anniversary would've been if Elisabeth Sladen was still around, and what would've come of SJA (I know at least one more series was planned) and her interactions with Peter and possibly Jodie.

I'm glad Jodie resparked my interest though, I feel a new kind of excitement before each Saturday.

I remember how upset I was when I found out about that Liz had passed away.

In terms of SJA, they had to abandon the second half of Series 5 and they'd planned series 6. Interestingly, they also planned a week of live Halloween episodes which sounded really interesting. I'll put them in the spoiler thing below. There were loads of interesting abandoned storylines for SJA


Full Moon:
Sarah Jane and her gang encounter the Pagan Gods, Gog and Magog, who were trying to escape an alien spaceship.

The Station:
Sarah Jane and her gang transported back to the years 1911 and 1934.

Untitled Halloween Special:
Sarah Jane and her gang encounter a Gargoyle-like creature.

Night of the Spectre:
It would have seen the return of Alan and Maria Jackson, who last appeared in The Mark of the Berserker. Also, Sarah Jane and her gang would have encountered an enemy called the Spectre.


Just remembered that they actually commissioned a Rose Tyler spin-off but cancelled it after :skull:

[Morgan.]

I remember how upset I was when I found out about that Liz had passed away.

In terms of SJA, they had to abandon the second half of Series 5 and they'd planned series 6. Interestingly, they also planned a week of live Halloween episodes which sounded really interesting. I'll put them in the spoiler thing below. There were loads of interesting abandoned storylines for SJA


Full Moon:
Sarah Jane and her gang encounter the Pagan Gods, Gog and Magog, who were trying to escape an alien spaceship.

The Station:
Sarah Jane and her gang transported back to the years 1911 and 1934.

Untitled Halloween Special:
Sarah Jane and her gang encounter a Gargoyle-like creature.

Night of the Spectre:
It would have seen the return of Alan and Maria Jackson, who last appeared in The Mark of the Berserker. Also, Sarah Jane and her gang would have encountered an enemy called the Spectre.


Just remembered that they actually commissioned a Rose Tyler spin-off but cancelled it after :skull:

Yeah I've seen those, wouldve bee named amazing.

I also know, that in the remainder of Season 5, Sky would've been revealed to be the tricksters daughter, and Luke would've came out as gay.

And for Season 6, it was almost a reboot basically - with the location changing and Sarah Jane getting a new team of companions.

[Mokka]

Wtf at there not being a Doctor Who Christmas special??
Christmas officially cancelled :eyes:

https://www.superherohype.com/news/426271-bbc-might-scrap-this-years-doctor-who-christmas-special

[Scarlett.]

It is the Mirror reporting, and they're not the best for getting Doctor Who stuff right

[Mokka]

It is the Mirror reporting, and they're not the best for getting Doctor Who stuff right

And yet... here is another source... complete with interview

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/2018/11/03/doctor-who-christmas-special-cancelled/

[Nicky91]

i am excited for tonight's episode

[Scarlett.]

To be honest I don't mind them switching to a New Years Day episode, Christmas Who always kinda gets lost in the schedules, plus The End of Time had a NYD episode.

[Nicky91]

To be honest I don't mind them switching to a New Years Day episode, Christmas Who always kinda gets lost in the schedules, plus The End of Time had a NYD episode.

true, you got a good point here

[Ashley.]

Well that was creative I suppose

[MB.]

Man, I sure do wish that episode had more impenetrable sci-fi jargon in it! And even less of a plot!

[Marsh.]

Honest to god, how many more are scripted by Chibnall?

The series is actually ****ing boring me the more it goes on.

Exposition, boring dialogue, attempt at backstory, exposition, boring dialogue, more exposition.

Ryan is terrible. Had enough of his awful bloody accent and his sh*tty acting.

Just Yaz and Graham next year please.

[Marsh.]

Also, Jodie said how she had to be told several times to soften her accent by directors and it actually shows. She's constantly over-enunciating, which makes her sound like a really bad actress.

I'm sick of that thing she does where she's trying to explain something with loads of weird words in it and she moves her hands in the air and looks down at them.

I like her but she needs to mix it up a bit.

[LaLaLand]

Honest to god, how many more are scripted by Chibnall?

The series is actually ****ing boring me the more it goes on.

Exposition, boring dialogue, attempt at backstory, exposition, boring dialogue, more exposition.

Ryan is terrible. Had enough of his awful bloody accent and his sh*tty acting.

Just Yaz and Graham next year please.

He was bloody awful in Hollyoaks and got killed off after doing literally nothing in a mass cull so idk how he's managed to land a prominent role in this tbh. :shrug:

[Marsh.]

This series needs to improve loads and fast. I've had it now. :hmph:

[Marsh.]

Jodie seems more like the Doctor in real life tbh. In interviews she's so funny and vibrant but in this it's all very pedestrian and rehearsed and bland.

Is it Chibnall?

[Marsh.]

And yet... here is another source... complete with interview

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/2018/11/03/doctor-who-christmas-special-cancelled/

It can't have been scrapped altogether, Jodie has filmed 11 episodes and there's only 10 in season 11.

[Morgan.]

It can't have been scrapped altogether, Jodie has filmed 11 episodes and there's only 10 in season 11.

No, but the eleventh must be the NYD one.

[Nicky91]

that tiny creature :flutter: so tiny yet so dangerous


i agree with Marsh, the ryan character is a bit unnecessary


loved Graham what he said, when he had to deliver that one man's baby, i had watched call the midwife on the telly :laugh:



next ep we're going to 1947 :eek: ok from the future to the past

[Scarlett.]

I do think Chibnall has taken on too many episodes this series, it needs more variety

[Jarrod]

The series started strong but that episode was weak. Every series has its weak episode and I think that was it.

Jodie should be allowed to just be herself, it's clear she's being controlled to a certain degree and it shouldn't be the case.

[Oliver_W]

Bradley Walsh is the best thing about it tbh. While I was kidding when I said he should be the Doctor, Graham is still the best character.

I quite liked this episode, but like the past couple it feels too long and padded, it doesn't need to 50 minutes it has.

[Morgan.]

1. Rosa
2. Arachnids in the UK
3. The Tsuranga Conundrum
4. The Ghost Monument
5. The Woman Who Fell to Earth

[Marsh.]

I don't know how on earth you've given episode 5 green.

It was abysmal. :omgno:

[Underscore]

1. Rosa
2. The Woman Who Fell to Earth
3. Arachnids in the UK
4. The Tsuranga Conundrum
5. The Ghost Monument

Change my mind

[Marsh.]

:joker: Oop

[Morgan.]

I don't know how on earth you've given episode 5 green.

It was abysmal. :omgno:

Idk it was just one of the ones that I watched the whole way through without getting up for my phone etc a few minutes in.

[Barry.]

Idk it was just one of the ones that I watched the whole way through without getting up for my phone etc a few minutes in.

It was pretty good I agree. Some interesting characters too.

[Oliver_W]

1. Arachnids in the UK
2/3. The Tsuranga Conundrum/Rosa (can't quite decide which one's which)
4. Ghost Monument
5. Woman Who Fell To Earth

[Scarlett.]

I hear the second half of the series has more variety in writers, so here's hoping we see some different types of episodes.

[Marsh.]

Chris Chibnall is only writing the finale now apparently, so hopefully 6, 7, 8 and 9 have more to offer.

I'm really interested in the The Witchfinders with Siobhan Finneran and Alan Cumming.

[Scarlett.]

Nice! I think Chibnall was trying to follow in Moffat and RTD's footsteps by writing most of his first season's episodes, but I think he's better at showrunning than writing.

Doesn't help that RTD and Moffat were for the most part, the best writers on the show.

[Nicky91]

i'm interested for the ep with Mark Addy in it, i loved him as Hercules in Atlantis :clap2:

[Strictly Jake]

Watched this last night

Firstly some of the words they keep using keep the flying over my head yes I get its probably for the sci final needs and I suppose it makes it educational but I miss some of the story when I'm trying to work out what has actually been said

The pregnant man? Wtf? Whose was that idea and they tried to make it all emotional, no its not, it's weird

The little alien that was basically stitch from lilo and stitch!? Like really

I just didn't like the episode it was watchable but rather meh

Is the episode on Sunday that is set in 1947 going to be an emotional one with it being set on remembrance Sunday?

Was it last year we had the one with the two opposing army playing football with each other episode because that was rather lovely and I'm hoping for that

[Braden]

Would probably rank the episodes as follows:

Rosa
Arachnids in the UK
The Ghost Monument
The Woman Who Fell to Earth
The Tsuranga Conundrum

I think there's something really special about this era. The storytelling is nice and simple, the characters are great, and I'm glad I can keep track of an episode without feeling like my brain's going to explode.

[Oliver_W]

The pregnant man? Wtf? Whose was that idea and they tried to make it all emotional, no its not, it's weird

Chibbers seems to like reversing gender roles - UNIT was reintroduced in one of his stories, but the Brigadier is now a woman; Cyberwoman flipped the gender* of a long running villain - but that was so it could be the ex-lover of a gay guy, so that makes sense; I'm sure there's another I can't quite remember, and then we have the pregnant man.

And sure, Kate Stewart is great, but that doesn't make her a symptom of a limited writer.


*Both genders look the same as Cybermen, as seen by Bill in S10, and alt-Jackie Tyler and multiple other women in S2.

[Gusto Brunt]

It's unbearably bad.

I was going to give Jodie a chance. But her acting - well lack of it because she's only playing herself - is dire.

The stories too politically correct. Dreary dull stuff, badly acted too.

Don't think I will watch next Sunday.

[Ashley.]

Would probably rank the episodes as follows:

Rosa
Arachnids in the UK
The Ghost Monument
The Woman Who Fell to Earth
The Tsuranga Conundrum

I think there's something really special about this era. The storytelling is nice and simple, the characters are great, and I'm glad I can keep track of an episode without feeling like my brain's going to explode.

I'm the complete opposite, I quite like a story to be challenging and thought-provoking. With this season so far, I don't feel as though there has been much to discuss in the way of interesting plots or storylines.

Jodie seems more like the Doctor in real life tbh. In interviews she's so funny and vibrant but in this it's all very pedestrian and rehearsed and bland.

Is it Chibnall?

Yeah, I agree. It's a shame because his writing in past episodes was never this wooden or bland. I think he's just trying to shove every cliché he can into the series and it's slowly morphing into a parody show. Also I'm pretty sure we've had the obligatory "get off this planet, or you'll have me to deal with" scene in every episode so far. It's boring.

[Marsh.]

The stories too politically correct.

Can you expand?

I don't understand what's too politically correct about it?

FYI, stories about or starring ethnic minorities are not themselves "politically correct" stories.

Political correctness refers to restricting speech, behaviour which can be seen to be discriminatory or bigoted.

So, what's politically correct about this series? The only time any of the above has happened has been the Rosa Parks episode. And I don't think anyone would call it "too politically correct" to say black people can sit where they like on a bus.

[Denver]

Imagine calling it political correctness when one episode had racial abuse in it

[Rob!]

Some people are actually moaning about political correctness being too precedent in the show because of a pregnant man :laugh2:

[Marsh.]

Some people are actually moaning about political correctness being too precedent in the show because of a pregnant man :laugh2:

Question is what on earth is politically correct about that?

[Marsh.]

I feel like some people think PC just means "minorities". So if a show is "really PC" it means it has a lot of minorities in it. :joker:

[Marsh.]

Yeah, I agree. It's a shame because his writing in past episodes was never this wooden or bland. I think he's just trying to shove every cliché he can into the series and it's slowly morphing into a parody show. Also I'm pretty sure we've had the obligatory "get off this planet, or you'll have me to deal with" scene in every episode so far. It's boring.

Yeah, that's my problem.

Someone on DS described it like Chibnall had 4 different Doctor scenes for Jodie and was repeating them for her in every episode in a different order.

The woman is not being served by the writing as she's being forced to perform the same things every week.

Simple is fine. But not this simple. I think people are confused, RTD's episodes weren't simple they just weren't as convoluted as Moffat's where he liked to play with the structure of the episode which would be confusing. Even if he had just a regular plot in a self contained episode, the writing would rise it up to give it depth or humour or pathos or just plain old entertainment. This is just bland. Chibnall's dialogue especially is so flat.

[Oliver_W]

The worrying thing is, if a product seems crap or performs badly, the bigwigs never seem to blame the writing or the product itself, they're more likely to look at surrounding factors.

For example - Mars Needs Moms flopped; the lesson Hollywood learned was that having Mars in a title puts off audiences, not that a)the title makes it sound like bollocks or b)it sucked and word of mouth killed it. As a consequence, John Carter of Mars had its title changed, making it sound like a generic biopic unless you know of the books or have seen the trailer.

This may seem tangential, but my point is if the rot sets in and viewers turn away and/or bad reviews start to trickle in, the finger of blame would most likely aim at Jodie.

ETA: I'm not crazy about Jodie's version of the Doctor, and while I don't actively want her to leave, I wouldn't hate it if she did. But if there's gonna be anything changing, I'd rather it be the writing.

[Marsh.]

Oh definitely. It's a shame the blame would most likely fall to "failure of female Doctor" when actually it's proven the gender of the Doctor makes no difference.

[Rob!]

The thing is Chibnall is delivering the same sort of Doctor Who episodes he always has. The problem is most of Chibnall’s episodes like 42, The Hungry Earth, Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, were always quite bland and that’s not a million miles from what we’re getting here. I’m waiting for that big episode where the main plot point of the series arc takes a twist but there doesn’t really seem to be one at this point.
I don’t actually like the idea of each episode being so standalone because with no two parters, nothing is being given time to really breath. Season 7 was the same and that’s my least favourite.

[Rob!]

Also I do think it was a bad idea to not have any old monsters whatsoever. I’m all for giving the Daleks and the Cybermen a break but they should at least have had at least one episode with a returning villain just so there was a hint of familiarity for the fans that have been there since the start (of the 2005 series anyway.)

[Marsh.]

I did think before last week's episode that the problem lay in Chibnall just not being very good at sci-fi so we weren't going to get interesting concepts or any originality.

But after last week's I've noticed his dialogue is ****ing terrible too.

At least with Moffat and RTD, even if the episode itself was rather bad, their writing always elevated it.

With Chibnall you can practically see the Screenwriting 101 rules at play as he fits his story into a template/structure.

When Ryan took a break from the episode to tell Yaz about his mum I cringed. It wasn't natural, didn't fit, didn't flow and was terribly acted. :(

[Oliver_W]

I can't remember where I read this but someone pointed out a lot of his dialogue is things one might say sarcastically/ironically, but they're being written and performed to be sincere. That might be part of why it's so crap.

[Scarlett.]

The Doctor's character hasnt been fleshed out at all, she's not really gotten any depth to her since her first episode. She doesn't feel like the main character.

[BBUK-Fan]

This series is boring. The writing is crap.

[Rob!]

We should also remember that Chris Chibnall was the one who brought us “Cyberwoman” in Torchwood

[Oliver_W]

Jodie's best scene so far was her first - she crashed through the roof of the train, and immediately took charge and assessed the situation.

Since then, she's been a damp squib. How many other Doctors would need a room full of "best friends" to vouch for her that she knows what she's doing - were they trying to convince her or Mr Big? How many other Doctors would give up IN FRONT OF HUMAN COMPANIONS ON THEIR FIRST JOURNEY when the Tardis didn't immediately appear when they arrived early?

[Scarlett.]

I don't think the fault lies with Jodie, more with the writing.

[Marsh.]

Jodie's best scene so far was her first - she crashed through the roof of the train, and immediately took charge and assessed the situation.

Since then, she's been a damp squib. How many other Doctors would need a room full of "best friends" to vouch for her that she knows what she's doing - were they trying to convince her or Mr Big? How many other Doctors would give up IN FRONT OF HUMAN COMPANIONS ON THEIR FIRST JOURNEY when the Tardis didn't immediately appear when they arrived early?

This is what I'm not understanding she still seems to be having episode 1 scenes of figuring herself out "I think I might be socially awkward" or "I normally do this type of thing well... I think" and it's not helped.

Other Doctors had one adjustment episode and then they were away.

[Oliver_W]

I don't think the fault lies with Jodie, more with the writing.
Sure but I was using Jodie as a shorthand. While she doesn't have much of a commanding presence or charisma most of my problems with her Doctor are in the writing. Peter Davison is the kind of Doctor she could be if better written.

This is what I'm not understanding she still seems to be having episode 1 scenes of figuring herself out "I think I might be socially awkward" or "I normally do this type of thing well... I think" and it's not helped.

Other Doctors had one adjustment episode and then they were away.
To be fair Capaldi had nearly a season of "am I a good man or bad man", but that was almost an arc itself - it was leading up to "I'm not good or bad, I'm just an idiot with a box, I don't need an army!"

[Scarlett.]

Something I forgot...

I wonder what the doctor and nurse were discussing before the Doctor woke up? Also why the Doctor was in pain throughout the episode?

[Marsh.]

To be fair Capaldi had nearly a season of "am I a good man or bad man", but that was almost an arc itself - it was leading up to "I'm not good or bad, I'm just an idiot with a box, I don't need an army!"

Not quite the same thing, that was an actual character arc/character development.

This is just the Doctor being shocked by her own quirks and not quite sure who the feck she is. She should be into that by now. She still looks shellshocked whenever anyone calls her Doctor.

[Tom4784]

I'm enjoying the series so far but Chris Chibnall does need to be replaced, his writing is weak.

I like Jodie's Doctor but she hasn't been given much chance to shine so far and that's because they've spent too long focusing on the companions when it's only really Graham who is likeable atm. Ryan's actor CAN'T act and they keep forgetting to give Yaz any meaningful development. I hope we get an episode where it's Jodie on her own so that we don't have to spend scenes dealing with Ryan's dull backstory.

[Scarlett.]

Not quite the same thing, that was an actual character arc/character development.

This is just the Doctor being shocked by her own quirks and not quite sure who the feck she is. She should be into that by now. She still looks shellshocked whenever anyone calls her Doctor.

Capaldi's Doctor changed so much from Deep Breath to Twice Upon a Time.

He went from a super serious, angry, "no hugging" Doctor, to a kind rockstar grandad. The transformation made sense too.

[Braden]

Moffat's conclusions always dragged. Chibnall may not be the best, but it's refreshing to be able to follow an episode from start to finish and not feel like you still have to wait for everything to make sense. It probably doesn't help that I would miss a lot of Moffat's episodes, but that had a lot to do with his uninspiring storytelling. Matt Smith's first series was quite similar to the RTD era, but there was still something off about the transition. When S6 aired, I'd completely given up because splitting the series was a terrible decision and the first episode was so, so bad. It was just a cluster**** of trying to make sense of a load of tosh.

It's strange because I really, really love Sherlock, and I think that show is thought-provoking done right. But I think Moffatt went above and beyond the realms of sense in the "Whoniverse" so to speak, more to do with storytelling than his ideas. I could never get into it. There were many things about Moffatt's era I should've loved, like Missy for example, but even that wasn't enough to reignite my interest.

[Marsh.]

Tbf, the first episode of season 6 isn't difficult to understand.

[Braden]

Utter rubbish, regardless of whether I understood it or not, tbh. It was an episode that set up a ****-ton of questions, which I then ended up not giving a damn about the answers. In fact, none of the S6 episodes I watched were good, imho, but I'm sure people will disagree. The only one I remember that came close to being somewhat watchable was The God Complex.

[Marsh.]

The only questions were who and what shot the Doctor and why. Everything else was answered within that two-parter.

I'm not a Moffatt lover at all and thought he overdid the "complexity" to a stupid degree. But The Impossible Astronaut / Day of the Moon weren't really one of them.

[Scarlett.]

The S6 openers were quite good, the rest of the season is where it fell apart.

[Braden]

The only questions were who and what shot the Doctor and why. Everything else was answered within that two-parter.

I'm not a Moffatt lover at all and thought he overdid the "complexity" to a stupid degree. But The Impossible Astronaut / Day of the Moon weren't really one of them.

I never really attributed the complexity to that particular episode, I just mentioned that it was really, really bad. I don't even remember it being a two-parter, lmao.

[Oliver_W]

Capaldi's Doctor changed so much from Deep Breath to Twice Upon a Time.

He went from a super serious, angry, "no hugging" Doctor, to a kind rockstar grandad. The transformation made sense too.

urgh I miss Capaldi so much, he's a brilliant performer and would be able to make something of the crap writing..

The S6 openers were quite good, the rest of the season is where it fell apart.

Yeah S6 was a bit of a drag. I liked some of the episodes, especially the Flesh ones though.

[Greg!]

love this ep omg

[Morgan.]

I found it quite meh. I enjoyed it whilst watching but it wasn't very sci-fi (which I don't mind - just didn't feel like Doctor Who), and I wil l probably forget what happened by time the series is over.

[Denver]

That was my favourite episode yet

[Morgan.]

1. Rosa
2. Arachnids in the UK
3. The Tsuranga Conundrum
4. Demons of the Punjab
5. The Ghost Monument
6. The Woman Who Fell to Earth

I gave it Green because although I thoroughly enjoyed it, again it wasn't very Doctor Who and I think it'll be one of my least remembered at the end.

[Greg!]

Why are the next time trailers so crap now? Literally last about 5 seconds and tell us nothing

[Morgan.]

Why are the next time trailers so crap now? Literally last about 5 seconds and tell us nothing

Normally there is a second extended one straight after the next time one which acts as the trailer that airs throughout the week, but it wasn't there?

[Denver]

Why are the next time trailers so crap now? Literally last about 5 seconds and tell us nothing

That's the whole point

[Greg!]

That's the whole point

Oh SHUT UP!

I mean they used to at least give you an idea of what it was going to be about. Now they may was well not bother they're that short and vague

[Ashley.]

A bit of a rough start but gradually became my favourite episode so far. I'm glad that it was more focused on the history than sci-fi - I felt they didn't quite get that balance in Rosa.

[Greg!]

I hope they get back to having proper monsters next week tbh!

[Oliver_W]

This was the first truly good episode of the year tbh :D I wouldn't have given any of the episodes before green or orange, they were somewhere in the middle and all a bit meh, but this one was great.

[hijaxers]

This is the 1st time in years i've watched Dr Who, I love Bradley Walsh ,but not in this !

As it goes on i find it more and more childish, i'll watch a bit longer but should it be on childrens hour !

i dunno may be its my age.

[Oliver_W]

What do you mean, Bradley Walsh is the best companion this year! Ryan is badly acted and hard to understand, and up to this week Yas had been pretty boring.

[hijaxers]

What do you mean, Bradley Walsh is the best companion this year! Ryan is badly acted and hard to understand, and up to this week Yas had been pretty boring.

I mean i don't find Bradley at all convincing in this part at all ! its all too childish.

They all talk like the viewers are nursery school children.

[Oliver_W]

That's more the fault of the writing, and the writing is pretty much the only thing most fans agree is pretty meh this year.

[Oliver_W]

This one sounds dark...

[Jarrod]

Really enjoyed the episode. We knew from the start of the series that this one would be more educational and would focus on the old series' idea of being for kids/teens and to be more educational.

[Morgan.]

The problem with this series imo, besides writing, is that there's not really been any need for the Doctor. A bigger TARDIS team and smaller 'alien' usage has just kinda invalidated her position and she's much less prominent to the series. It should've been just Doctor and Yaz imo.

[Underscore]

such a sad ending but happy

[Rob!]

Didn’t think I’d be saying it at the start, but that turned into my favourite episode of the series. Really beautiful once it got started.

[Marsh.]

Even in an episode actually about Yaz and they still can't be bothered to write much... for Yaz. :joker:

Still, an improvement on last week at least.

[user104658]

We knew from the start of the series that this one would be more educational and would focus on the old series' idea of being for kids/teens and to be more educational.

Ew I've been saving them up instead of watching them and now I don't even wanna. Desgustenn.

[Marsh.]

It's not really "educational" in much sense. Other than the fact the episodes are set in well known historical times.

It's no more "educational" about the partition of India than Victory of the Daleks was for WW2.

[Marsh.]

What's with every episode having a pod, ship, whatever with a console room more like a Tardis than the Tardis.

Speaking of which, we're not seeing much of it at all this year.

Also why are all the disappearing effects basically apparating from Harry Potter?

[Oliver_W]

The Tardis interior does look rather crap this year, I guess that's why they're not showing it much?

[Marsh.]

Well, not really, if they thought it looked crap they wouldn't have made it.

[Rob!]

Well, not really, if they thought it looked crap they wouldn't have made it.

That theory does sort of discount about the first 40 years of Doctor Who though.

[Scarlett.]

To go from last week's terrible episode to this, is like day and night! What a fantastic episode. Loved the rendition of the theme in the outro too.

[Ashley.]

It's not really "educational" in much sense. Other than the fact the episodes are set in well known historical times.

It's no more "educational" about the partition of India than Victory of the Daleks was for WW2.

Yeah. The partition was merely used as a setting and I highly doubt anybody learned anything other than... well, it happened. If the point of it was to educate, then they forgot to include a phenomenal amount of integral events/points.

[Rob!]

I mean, it's embarrassing but I knew precisely zero about the partition so it was an education for me.

[Scarlett.]

I loved this
g-xiIb31taY

[Nicky91]

yes it was a good episode :love: also that the aliens weren't assassins but witnesses and honouring those who die alone

[Liam-]

I loved this episode so much

[Marsh.]

That theory does sort of discount about the first 40 years of Doctor Who though.

Oh wow. Savage.

[Glenn.]

I didn’t think it was that great this week. And it’s annoying me how they keep running the music into the end credits.

[Scarlett.]

I didn’t think it was that great this week. And it’s annoying me how they keep running the music into the end credits.

But the music playing in the credits was the Doctor Who theme! Just a different rendition of it, I thought it worked really well, better than how Rosa did it.

[Oliver_W]

This week's credits music was good, the "themed theme tune" reminds me of when Red Dwarf did it sometimes - the Hammond organ music in Ace's first episode, Elvis in the waxworks episode, and a Western twist for the cowboy episode <3

I agree it was shite in the Rosa episode though - crap song, badly used in the episode itself.

[user104658]

This week's credits music was good, the "themed theme tune" reminds me of when Red Dwarf did it sometimes - the Hammond organ music in Ace's first episode, Elvis in the waxworks episode, and a Western twist for the cowboy episode <3

I agree it was shite in the Rosa episode though - crap song, badly used in the episode itself.

Oliver let's not start pretending that NuWho holds a candle to classic Red Dwarf by any stretch of the imagination :nono:.

[Oliver_W]

Oliver let's not start pretending that NuWho holds a candle to classic Red Dwarf by any stretch of the imagination :nono:.

S11 of NuWho doesn't even hold a candle to new Red Dwarf! (Which is still awesome)

But I agree, I was just using an example.

[Tom4784]

Best episode of the season so far tbh.

[Oliver_W]

Best episode of the season so far tbh.

I agree!

[Marsh.]

I agree too.

[Marsh.]

Ep. 7
Episode 7 is called 'Kerblam!', and here's the official synopsis:

"'Delivery for the Doctor!' A mysterious message arrives in a package addressed to the Doctor, leading her, Graham, Yaz and Ryan to investigate the warehouse moon orbiting Kandoka, and the home of the galaxy's largest retailer: Kerblam!"

Ep. 8
Episode 8 is called 'The Witchfinders' and sounds like this:

"The Doctor, Ryan, Graham and Yaz arrive in 17th century Lancashire and become embroiled in a witch trial, run by the local landowner. As fear stalks the land, the arrival of King James I only serves to intensify the witch hunt. But is there something even more dangerous at work? Can the Doctor and friends keep the people of Bilehurst Cragg safe from all the forces that are massing in the land?"

Ep. 9
Titled 'It Takes You Away', with a synopsis that goes a little something like this:

"On the edge of a Norwegian fjord, in the present day, The Doctor, Ryan, Graham and Yaz discover a boarded-up cottage and a girl named Hanne in need of their help. What has happened here? What monster lurks in the woods around the cottage – and beyond?"

Ep. 10
Titled 'The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos'. Here's the synopsis:

"On the planet of Ranskoor Av Kolos, lies the remains of a brutal battlefield. But as the Doctor, Graham, Yaz and Ryan answer nine separate distress calls, they discover the planet holds far more secrets. Who is the mysterious commander with no memory? What lies beyond the mists? Who or what are the Ux?

"The answers will lead the Doctor and her friends towards a deadly reckoning."


Episode 8 and 9 sound really interesting. Hoping 9 is creepy as sh*t with the setting.

[Rob!]

I hope there's some build up to that finale. It sounds interesting. I'm living for Chibnall inventing a load of planets and monsters with unpronounceable names.

[Oliver_W]

I hope there's some build up to that finale. It sounds interesting. I'm living for Chibnall inventing a load of planets and monsters with unpronounceable names.

I'm not gonna look at the spoilers, but there probably won't be - this last episode was meant to be episode 9, and I might be mistaken but I think even the next two were swapped around...

[Scarlett.]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dr9X-a5X4AENViw.jpg

The new issue of Doctor Who Magazine has confirmed that the Christmas Day episode has been dropped after 13 years.

Instead the BBC will air a special episode on New Year’s Day.

The news was originally reported by the Mirror earlier in the month, where they also claimed the New Year’s Day special will be the only new episode of Doctor Who in 2019, with another “gap year” on the cards until Series 12 in 2020.

We’ll have to wait and see if that one turns out to be true as well…

Source (http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/dwm-confirms-doctor-who-will-have-a-new-years-day-special-instead-of-christmas-day-89392.htm)

[Oliver_W]

Urgh, just ****ing sack Chibnall already.
Didn't they drop the episode count to ten so he could reliably release a season a year? If he can't even manage that, what's he playing at? And why isn't the special airing on Christmas Day? The excuse they gave is BS, "The production team has run out of festive ideas." This is the first Christmas the current production team has, so what are they talking about?

I miss RTD - he gave us 14 episodes a year, along with Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood! Now we have a showrunner who can't be bothered to crank out 11 per year?

[Jarrod]

Urgh, just ****ing sack Chibnall already.
Didn't they drop the episode count to ten so he could reliably release a season a year? If he can't even manage that, what's he playing at? And why isn't the special airing on Christmas Day? The excuse they gave is BS, "The production team has run out of festive ideas." This is the first Christmas the current production team has, so what are they talking about?

I miss RTD - he gave us 14 episodes a year, along with Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood! Now we have a showrunner who can't be bothered to crank out 11 per year?

I might be in the minority but I think moving Doctor Who to NYD is a good idea - we know it can work, we had it for Tennant's regeneration. This most likely won't be just Chibnall deciding to move it, the BBC will also have a big hand in it.

The production team does still consist of a lot of previous staff members.

[Oliver_W]

The production team does still consist of a lot of previous staff members.
Well sure, but each showrunner is responsible for the stories, they don't come from the production team.

[Marsh.]

I'm not gonna look at the spoilers, but there probably won't be - this last episode was meant to be episode 9, and I might be mistaken but I think even the next two were swapped around...

Yeah, but was that during the writing?

I doubt it was filmed as episode 9 and they switched it around prior to airing.
Otherwise the character development wouldn't seem right.

Having said that, I'm having a major issue with the so-called "character development". People on DS are saying the villains are lacking because Chibnall's strength lies in the character development, but even that I've found weak.

Giving Yaz three lines of dialogue an episode and asking Ryan to monotonously mention one of his many dead family members in a scene that doesn't fit in the narrative is not development to me. :hehe:

Even Moffat was better than that.

[Oliver_W]

I'm pretty sure it was changed after filming, apparently to a)fit Remembrance Sunday b)to develop Yaz more before the ending c)to be closer to the last time we met Yaz's family.

[Marsh.]

Urgh, just ****ing sack Chibnall already.
Didn't they drop the episode count to ten so he could reliably release a season a year? If he can't even manage that, what's he playing at? And why isn't the special airing on Christmas Day? The excuse they gave is BS, "The production team has run out of festive ideas." This is the first Christmas the current production team has, so what are they talking about?

I miss RTD - he gave us 14 episodes a year, along with Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood! Now we have a showrunner who can't be bothered to crank out 11 per year?

Tbf, this won't be a Chibnall thing.

Moffat had many breaks and, most of the time, it was out of his hands.

It seems more and more to be a budgetary issue.

[Marsh.]

I'm pretty sure it was changed after filming, apparently to a)fit Remembrance Sunday b)to develop Yaz more before the ending c)to be closer to the last time we met Yaz's family.

Where did you read this?

I just checked and 'Demons of the Punjab' and 'The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos' were filmed together in the last production block.

If that's what you're referring to, the show is never filmed in broadcast order.

[MB.]

Where did you read this?

I just checked and 'Demons of the Punjab' and 'The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos' were filmed together in the last production block.

If that's what you're referring to, the show is never filmed in broadcast order.

Wait, so you mean Tosin Cole had already had eight episodes to learn how to act up to this point and he still couldn't manage it?

[Marsh.]

Wait, so you mean Tosin Cole had already had eight episodes to learn how to act up to this point and he still couldn't manage it?

:joker: He's the worst thing about it. Hope he dies.

[MB.]

:joker: He's the worst thing about it. Hope he dies.

Him and Graham to sacrifice themselves so Grace can come back? :fc:

[Rob!]

:Hope he dies.

The actor?? You horrible bastard!!

[Oliver_W]

Him and Graham to sacrifice themselves so Grace can come back? :fc:
No because Graham is the best companion.

Where did you read this?

I just checked and 'Demons of the Punjab' and 'The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos' were filmed together in the last production block.

If that's what you're referring to, the show is never filmed in broadcast order.
No, that's not what I was referring to.

There are posts on GallifreyBase about it.

[Marsh.]

There are posts on GallifreyBase about it.

Care to elaborate? :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

Care to elaborate? :laugh:

I'll upload screenshots when I'm on laptop tomorrow! The gist is "it happened", I can't remember if it goes more indepth.

[Marsh.]

Oh no, I don't want "proof" of where you've seen it. :joker:

I just wondered if there was more information, like a particular reason the order was changed.

[Denver]

There is no Xmas episode this year

[Marsh.]

There is no Xmas episode this year

FAKE NEWS!

It's airing on New Year's Day!

[Rob!]

I really don't understand why they're not doing a Christmas episode if they're just moving it a week later to New Years Day. If they've just moved it so that they can throw in an extra episode of Mrs ****ing Brown I shall be pissed.

[Marsh.]

It's probably so they don't feel obliged to add Christmas to it as a plot point or anything.

Something tells me the BBC insists that even if Christmas is not part of the plot, it must still be set at that time and feature it in someway.

[Rob!]

It’s never bothered them that much before. They’ve had non Christmassy episodes before that have just been established as taking part on Christmas with a tinsel joke or something and then just got on with the plot.
Also the episode synopsis for it is spoilery. It says all the companions “return home” so clearly they all survive the finale.

[Marsh.]

They’ve had non Christmassy episodes before that have just been established as taking part on Christmas with a tinsel joke or something and then just got on with the plot.


Yeah, that's what I mean though, now they don't feel obliged to have Christmas trees in the background and set it at Christmas at all.

Or include a scene with snow just because like has happened a couple of times.

[Oliver_W]

Oh no, I don't want "proof" of where you've seen it. :joker:

I just wondered if there was more information, like a particular reason the order was changed.

I'll paste the posts below:

I think Episode 6 was episode 9 and Episode 8 was episode 6. Anyway, I think it was brilliant to put Demons earlier. We get to know Jaz better now and not in the penultimate episode of the series, it gave more sense of continuity for her character arc having Arachnids close to it, and, given the last two episodes not being everybody's cup of tea, having Demnos now was kind of needed.

and

Yes, it looks like it might have been changed for Remembrance Sunday, as this was an episode that featured World War 2 soldiers, and a remembrance for the dead (there was even a shot of flowers that looked like poppies, I wonder if that was added in)

It's possible there were other reasons, maybe they were just more confident in this episode, and thought it would fit better in this slot (the fact that this was IIRC the last one filmed but was shown halfway through the series indicates some confidence)
Or maybe Joy Wilkinson's Witch-hunter episode is much darker, and they thought it'd fit better later on.

Anyway as SBTB says it worked out for the best, as "Conundrum" wasn't that well received and this really, really was. We needed a new beloved episode Also people seemed to really want more Yaz, and this met their needs.

[Marsh.]

I'll paste the posts below:

I think Episode 6 was episode 9 and Episode 8 was episode 6. Anyway, I think it was brilliant to put Demons earlier. We get to know Jaz better now and not in the penultimate episode of the series, it gave more sense of continuity for her character arc having Arachnids close to it, and, given the last two episodes not being everybody's cup of tea, having Demnos now was kind of needed.

and

Yes, it looks like it might have been changed for Remembrance Sunday, as this was an episode that featured World War 2 soldiers, and a remembrance for the dead (there was even a shot of flowers that looked like poppies, I wonder if that was added in)

It's possible there were other reasons, maybe they were just more confident in this episode, and thought it would fit better in this slot (the fact that this was IIRC the last one filmed but was shown halfway through the series indicates some confidence)
Or maybe Joy Wilkinson's Witch-hunter episode is much darker, and they thought it'd fit better later on.

Anyway as SBTB says it worked out for the best, as "Conundrum" wasn't that well received and this really, really was. We needed a new beloved episode Also people seemed to really want more Yaz, and this met their needs.

Yep, wouldn't put any stock in that at all. It's someone taking the production order as broadcast order and that's never been the case.

Series 11 was filmed as:

Block 1
Ep. 1 The Woman Who Fell to Earth
Ep. 9 It Takes You Away

Block 2
Ep. 2 The Ghost Monument
Ep. 3 Rosa

Block 3
Ep. 4 Arachnids in the UK
Ep. 8 The Witchfinders

Block 4
Ep. 5 The Tsuranga Conundrum
Ep. 7 Kerblam!

Block 5
Ep. 6 Demons of the Punjab
Ep. 10 The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos

Block 6
NYD Special

Pretty much blocked due to directors used and locations filmed at. Like Rosa and The Ghost Monument both filmed scenes in South Africa so were filmed in one block.

[Scarlett.]

S12 will be out next year, not 2020
https://www.starburstmagazine.com/doctor-bbc-confirm-series-12-broadcast-2019

[Oaker]

Not Chibnall wanting to quit already :skull:

[Greg!]

The next ep looks promising! Looks fun which is what some of the previous ones were lacking

tPi2ny1r7rM

[Greg!]

Not Chibnall wanting to quit already :skull:

They need to get RTD back if he does

[Marsh.]

Good to know they've gone back into production. :clap1:

[Oliver_W]

S12 will be out next year, not 2020
https://www.starburstmagazine.com/doctor-bbc-confirm-series-12-broadcast-2019
Thank god for that:D
Not Chibnall wanting to quit already :skull:
and that too ;)
The next ep looks promising! Looks fun which is what some of the previous ones were lacking

tPi2ny1r7rM
tbh that short clip is already the best episode so far this year, so it looks promising!

[Morgan.]

Speculation is rife that Chibnall is unhappy behind the scenes and doesn't want the showrunner job so is planning to step down as of the 2019 Christmas Special. Jodie has reportedly said she wouldn't want to play the Doctor without chibnall at the helm, so would also regenerate in the 2019 Christmas Special.

Chibnall has also claimed it's truly impossible to create a whole 10 episode series per year (BOLLOCKS) - so 2019 will have 5 episodes + Christmas and the remainder of the series is to take place in 2020 with a new Doctor resulting in another split series. If they cannot find a new showrunner by early 2019 then Chibnall will have to produce the whole of S12.

Finally Bradley Walsh and Tosin Cole (Graham and Ryan) are listed as highly unlikely to Stay on as regular companions, but Mandip Gills (Yaz) status is unknown and there's a chance she'll carry on as sole companion.

Obviously this is all speculation so take with a pinch of salt, but it all sounds fairly realistic as Chibnall didn't want the job in the first place and I know he's what attracted Jodie.

[Oliver_W]

I'd be fairly happy if Chibbers left - none of his episodes have been more than mediocre.
Jodie? Sure. She's not really left an impression on me, I don't care if she stays or goes. She might be better under a different show runner, but I'm not too fussed to find out.
As for keeping just Yaz ... Why? Graham is the best one.

[Glenn.]

Bring back RTD!!!

[Nicky91]

bump as the episode starts less than half an hour :amazed:

[Rob!]

Starts at half six girlies!

[Underscore]

The doctor referencing one of the best ever episodes with Agatha Christie and the wasp :love:

[Rob!]

Really liked that. Very clever twist at the end :clap1:

[Oliver_W]

Definitely the best episode this year.

Did anyone else think Yaz was going to ask to use the Tardis to save Lee's life

[Morgan.]

1. Kerblam!
2. Rosa
3. Arachnids in the UK
4. The Tsuranga Conundrum
5. Demons of the Punjab
6. The Ghost Monument
7. The Woman Who Fell to Earth

[Underscore]

1. Rosa
2. Kerblam!
3. Arachnids in the UK
4. Demons of the Punjab
5. The Woman Who Fell to Earth
6. The Tsuranga Conundrum
7. The Ghost Monument

[Scarlett.]

Another good episode, cementing that the weak link this season has been Chibnall, lol

[Nicky91]

really good episode, those delivery robots looked scary :worry: and bubble wrap bombs ok freaky

yuk at that bowl of employee stew :o

[Headie]

Ryan is woeful as a character and poorly acted :skull: Get rid!

This was a good episode though, reminded me a tad of Voyage of the Damned

[Morgan.]

On the whole I think I enjoyed it? It dragged a lot towards the last quarter and could've ended more simply at that point, and j was sad Ryan didn't leave at the end ngl, but it was still enjoyable?

[Denver]

Quite enjoyed that episode

[Morgan.]

1. Kerblam!
2. Rosa
3. Arachnids in the UK
4. The Tsuranga Conundrum
5. The Witchfinders
6. Demons of the Punjab
7. The Ghost Monument
8. The Woman Who Fell to Earth

[Marsh.]

There's a good episode in there somewhere, probably written by Russell T Davies.

Great performance by Siobhan Finneran. Alan Cumming, whilst I appreciate silly humour, was woeful.

And possibly the best new monsters this whole series. Tension, atmosphere, action and watching a story unfold has been sacrificed far too much this series for boring dialogue exchanges (which would be fine if they were well written) and the Doctor overusing the sonic.

An improvement though. 'Demons of the Punjab', 'Kerblam!' and 'The Witchfinders' are much better than the first half of the series.

[Morgan.]

I've enjoyed the historical episodes this year, normally they bore me and I turn off partway through but they've been well written and had good stories.

[Marsh.]

Historicals are amongst my favourites, especially if there's good tension and atmosphere.

I love 'The Unquiet Dead' and 'Tooth and Claw'.

[Marsh.]

King James loves himself a piece of Ryan. :hehe:

[Oliver_W]

The past two episodes really have outshone the rest of the season tbh.

King James loves himself a piece of Ryan. :hehe:
He was a gay in real life, Ryan could have got himself some titles!

[Marsh.]

Also, it kind of annoys me that Chibnall talks of this series being more "character focussed" despite the character stuff being very quite poor.

And it's quite jarring how he'll randomly insert "Character Moment No. 3" at points where it doesn't fit and it feels like he's just following a scriptwriting template (Ryan discussing his mum in 'The Tsuranga Conundrum') but then a moment which screams out for some connection and is a natural point for Ryan to express his grief for Grace comes in this episode when they arrive at a point where a young woman loses her Grandmother. Yes, I know Chibnall didn't pen this episode but he IS the show runner/head writer.

It's so slapdash it's actively annoying me.

Also, and I hate to say it, I'm sick of Jodie. The same scenes/monotonous dialogue over and over. I like her but she's not being directed/scripted well AT ALL.

The characterisation of the whole lot of our Doctor and friends is abysmal. I found myself wanting them all to bugger off stop getting in the way and let Alan Cumming and Siobhan Finneran carry the episode.

[Zizu]

I gave up on this series about 50 years ago when they changed the actor !!


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[Marsh.]

I gave up on this series about 50 years ago when they changed the actor !!


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Omg we love jokes from the 60s.

[Daniel.]

Do I have to watch the other seasons to watch this?

I havent watched since Dvid Tennant and tempted to watch, but not if I need a load of information from the other seasons.

[Denver]

Do I have to watch the other seasons to watch this?

I havent watched since Dvid Tennant and tempted to watch, but not if I need a load of information from the other seasons.
Not really its pretty much fresh everything

[Zizu]

Omg we love jokes from the 60s.



Sadly it's perfectly true ..

I don't like change at the best of times ..


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[Marsh.]

Sadly it's perfectly true ..

I don't like change at the best of times ..


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You look great for 80. :love:

[Zizu]

You look great for 80. :love:



60...


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[Ashley.]

Also, and I hate to say it, I'm sick of Jodie. The same scenes/monotonous dialogue over and over. I like her but she's not being directed/scripted well AT ALL.

She's extremely non-threatening, if anything. And that isn't a jab at her being a woman... she portrays anger as though she is in a panto. I just can't take it seriously.

[Scarlett.]

While this episode wont go down as super amazing, it was decent enough. It's amazing what a few episodes without Chibbers writing does for the show.

[user104658]

Do I have to watch the other seasons to watch this?

I havent watched since David Tennant and tempted to watch, but not if I need a load of information from the other seasons.

Err you should watch Matt Smith just because he's excellent :idc:. Capaldi is good too though it took me half a season to warm to him.

She's extremely non-threatening, if anything. And that isn't a jab at her being a woman... she portrays anger as though she is in a panto. I just can't take it seriously.

Gadz :worry:. I haven't been watching it because I didn't particularly rate the first episode but this is not encouraging at all. The best part about the character has been that he ( :omgno: ) could switch between sillyness / irreverence and a really cold, sharp sort of rage on a knife edge. Tennant, Smith and Capaldi all nailed it. IMO Smith was best at it which is why he's my fav - he could be really charismatic / "jolly" one minute but then the next you genuinely BELIEVED that he could **** up everyone's **** up if he wanted to; and they established that in his very first episode with his rooftop speech.

The Doctor without a dark side feels pointless.

[Glenn.]

Gadz :worry:. I haven't been watching it because I didn't particularly rate the first episode but this is not encouraging at all. The best part about the character has been that he ( :omgno: ) could switch between sillyness / irreverence and a really cold, sharp sort of rage on a knife edge. Tennant, Smith and Capaldi all nailed it. IMO Smith was best at it which is why he's my fav - he could be really charismatic / "jolly" one minute but then the next you genuinely BELIEVED that he could **** up everyone's **** up if he wanted to; and they established that in his very first episode with his rooftop speech.

The Doctor without a dark side feels pointless.

This is what I’m still waiting for. That moment. Its something that’s been bothering me from the start. We’re nearly 9 episodes in now something needs to happen.

[Marsh.]

Err you should watch Matt Smith just because he's excellent :idc:. Capaldi is good too though it took me half a season to warm to him.



Gadz :worry:. I haven't been watching it because I didn't particularly rate the first episode but this is not encouraging at all. The best part about the character has been that he ( :omgno: ) could switch between sillyness / irreverence and a really cold, sharp sort of rage on a knife edge. Tennant, Smith and Capaldi all nailed it. IMO Smith was best at it which is why he's my fav - he could be really charismatic / "jolly" one minute but then the next you genuinely BELIEVED that he could **** up everyone's **** up if he wanted to; and they established that in his very first episode with his rooftop speech.

The Doctor without a dark side feels pointless.

Tbh the Doctor has become a bit of a background character in her own show.

[Scarlett.]

I feel pretty sorry for Jodie, its hard enough being the first female Doctor, but she's also the worst written Doctor in the modern series too. She's a decent Doctor, if only they'd give her the proper material.

[Nicky91]

i liked the episode last night, Alan Cumming a good laugh as King James I :laugh2: legend :clap2:

mud alien zombies looked cool, great special effects and make up design


Jodie has her own style of playing the doctor, i think some of you just need to get used to the fact this is our first female doctor, while it Always has been a male doctor

[Morgan.]

i liked the episode last night, Alan Cumming a good laugh as King James I :laugh2: legend :clap2:

mud alien zombies looked cool, great special effects and make up design


Jodie has her own style of playing the doctor, i think some of you just need to get used to the fact this is our first female doctor, while it Always has been a male doctor

The fact she's female has nothing to do with it. It's bad because it's poorly written not because she's a bad actress. Any potential male doctor shortlisted for this series would've struggled with this.

[Marsh.]

I had issues with Capaldi being sidelined in his own series too. But this time it's not even to service a story/character arc with the companions.

The whole lot of them feel like extras. It's not really the number of companions either, we've had several people on the Tardis at once before.

Even bloody Journey's End managed to give good focus to about 12 characters!

The writing is abysmal.

How Tosin Cole gets cast in anything is beyond me. The accent just makes it worse!

[Marsh.]

The fact she's female has nothing to do with it. It's bad because it's poorly written not because she's a bad actress. Any potential male doctor shortlisted for this series would've struggled with this.

This.

I have no issue and think the one good thing Jodie has done is prove the Doctor is kind of genderless. The character has always been played neutral in that respect. And her being female is not even an issue.

The writing for her, however, is nowhere near strong enough.

[Morgan.]

This.

I have no issue and think the one good thing Jodie has done is prove the Doctor is kind of genderless. The character has always been played neutral in that respect. And her being female is not even an issue.

The writing for her, however, is nowhere near strong enough.

I feel bad that she's being branded a bad actress - because with an amazing script she's really shines. He performance in Trust Me was incredible, and I've seen some of her short films on YouTube that are amazing and her diversity of character is brilliant.

Also I think the fact she was never a fan of the show and had only watched the odd episode has hindered her. David, Matt and Peter had all grown up with the show and/or been massive fans. Not sure about Christopher, but I'd assume he was the same.

She said she was gonna do a binge of them all after this one airs because she doesn't want to be influenced by the other actors but instead she's kind of just taking traits that have already been done without realising, instead of filling the blanks and creating her own version of the Doctor.

[Oliver_W]

How Tosin Cole gets cast in anything is beyond me. The accent just makes it worse!

I could barely understand him last night.

[Nicky91]

I could barely understand him last night.

i was more distracted by Alan's funny voice :laugh:

he still is a legend, after James Bond's Goldeneye Boris ''I am Invincible'' Gryzhenko :clap1: :clap1:

[Greg!]

Do I have to watch the other seasons to watch this?

I havent watched since Dvid Tennant and tempted to watch, but not if I need a load of information from the other seasons.

No! This series is basically a complete reboot

[Tom4784]

It was a decent episode but I'm really hoping that the rumours of Chibnall's exit prove true, he is a woeful writer and the series, aside from a few high points, has floundered under him.

One thing that's starting to really bother me about Jodie's doctor is how the writers seem intent on making her seem incompetent half the time, she can barely control the tardis, she's scattered and seems to get lucky all the time and they've given her none of the control that the other doctors have and to give the first female doctor that kind of characterisation is a critical mistake as it just feeds into the criticism of casting a female doctor in the first place.

I thought the stuff about her gender was well handled in this episode but they really need to start writing her as they would any other doctor, let her have her big intimidating moment where you think she could destroy armies with a flick of her screwdriver as well the more human side that Jodie's shown herself to be good at portraying.

I predict, kinda like after Capaldi's first season, they may very well change Jodie's characterisation completely and I'm here for it. Chibnall's take on the doctor is limited and I want to see what Jodie can do when she isn't limited by such a crappy showrunner.

I think the companions need an overhaul too. Keep Graham as he is the only one that works well at the moment and give more stuff to Yazz, the actress who plays her is pretty decent but even in her own episodes they tend to sideline her.

Ryan is a mess from both an acting and writing standpoint and his character being unable to name a single thing he brings to the team in the last episode was apt. He can't act, he adds nothing aside from cliched and poorly timed character 'moments' and his role so far seems to be pointing at things and stating the obvious.

[Greg!]

Yeah it was def a mistake having 3 companions, especially for Jodie's first season. 2 would've been enough

[Wizard.]

Billie Piper is returning as Rose for a radio spin-off!

[Greg!]

Billie Piper is returning as Rose for a radio spin-off!

Can she rihturn to the actual show? Miss ha!

[Greg!]

We want miss Donna back as well! I don't care how they do it, but I want her back!

[Marsh.]

Her being unable to control the Tardis I can forgive as it's pretty much a trope of the show that the Doctor doesn't 'drive' it well and it has tendencies to control itself.

But, yeah, in the actual stories it's getting really frustrating that she doesn't seem to know much about anything until she waves the magic sonic and it somehow tells her a ridiculous amount of information because the writers use it lazily to answer any questions.

Kind of strange really because in Tennant's first series I did roll my eyes a bit at how smug and arrogant the Doctor was about knowing things about everything they encountered.

The biggest crime this year is the lack of imaginative storytelling.

Chibnall being more "human drama" would be fine if that wasn't naff too. His dialogue is awful.

[Strictly Jake]

Just watched this latest episode last night. Bit worrying that pendle is like 5 mins away from where I work!!