Big Brother 19: Ratings Thread

[Jake.]

Overnight Ratings -

Launch Night: 905k (6.0%)
Day 1/2: 755k (6.9%)
Day 3: 697k (5.7%)
Day 4: 789k (6.4%)
Day 5: 664 (5.4%)
Day 6: 776k (6.4%)
Day 7 (1st Eviction): 710k (6.3%)
Day 8/9: 622k (5.2%)
Day 10: 621k (5.2%)
Day 11: 653k (5.2%)
Day 12: 662k (5.4%)
Day 13: 702k (5.4%)
Day 14 (2nd Eviction): 690k (5.8%)
Day 15/16: 620k (5.2%)
Day 17: 692k (5.4%)
Day 18: 598k (5.7%)
Day 19: 655k (5.2%)
Day 20: 696k (5.6%)
Day 21 (3rd Eviction): 581k (4.9%)
Day 22/23: 573k (5.1%)
Day 24: 624k (5.1%)
Day 25: 540k
Day 26: 540k (4.4%)
Day 27: 594k (4.7%)
Day 28 (4th Eviction): 544k (4.4%)
Day 29/30: 539k (4.9%)
Day 31: 560k
Day 32: N/A
Day 33: 622k (5%)
Day 34: 607k (4.9%)
Day 35 (5th Eviction): 645k (5.2%)
Day 36/37: 551k (5.2%)
Day 38: 753k (5.7%)
Day 39: 720k (6.5%)
Day 40: 667k (5.3%)
Day 41: 598k (4.7%)
Day 42 (6th Eviction): 663k (5.4%)

Official Ratings -

Launch Night: 1.28m (+375k)
Day 1/2: 1.27m (+515k)
Day 3: 1.21m (+513k)
Day 4: 1.15m (+361k)
Day 5: 1.15m (+486k)
Day 6: 1.21m (+434k)
Day 7 (1st Eviction): 1.14m (+430k)
Day 8/9: 1.05m (+428k)
Day 10: 1.03m (+418k)
Day 11: 1.08m (+427k)
Day 12: 1.06m (+398k)
Day 13: 1.08m (+383k)
Day 14 (2nd Eviction): 1.08m (+390k)
Day 15/16: 1.05m (+430k)
Day 17: 1.06m (+368k)
Day 18: 0.99m (+392k)**
Day 19: 1.03m (+375k)
Day 20: 1.11m (+414k)
Day 21 (3rd Eviction): 0.98m (+400k)**
Day 22/23: 0.93m (+357k)**
Day 24: 1.00m (+376k)
Day 25: 0.94m (+400k)
Day 26: 0.91m (+370k)
Day 27: 0.92m (+326k)
Day 28 (4th Eviction): 0.91m (+366k)
Day 29/30: 0.93m (+391k)

*does not include On Demand

[Cal.]

Launch: 1.8 million
Average: 1.6 million

[JoshBB]

Launch: 1.8m
Average: 1.1m

I know it doesn't sound very optimistic, but recent developments with the schedule etc dont sound great.

[Oaker]

Launch: 1.2
Overnight Average: 0.9

[RileyH]

Launch | 1.6
Overnight Average | 0.7
Offical Average | 1.1

[BBUK-Fan]

CBB Final: 1.9 million

BBUK Launch: 1.8 million

Average: 1.7 million

[Jake.]

We’ve got My5 being factored in this year too:

Overnights -
Launch: 1.5
Average: 1.4

Officials -
Launch: 1.9
Average: 1.7

[annabelindabee]

156.3 people

[supertv247]

For context, here’s what the last 3 series got overnight | officially. Worth remembering that officials will begin to count on demand viewing as of this month!

BB18
Launch - 1.31 | 1.57 (+260k
Average - 0.87 | 1.24 (+370k)

BB17
Launch - 1.60 | 1.86 (+260k)
Average - 1.14 | 1.58 (+420k)

BB16
Launch - 1.83 | 2.09 (+260k)
Average - 1.13 | 1.36 (+230k)

[supertv247]

My prediction

BB19
Launch - 1.49 | 1.75
Average - 1.11 | 1.65

[thisisdanny]

156.3 people

.3 of a person? I'm scared

[thisisdanny]

I think 1.5, only cause of catchup being added. Otherwise 1.2 :skull:

I'd like it to be much higher tho obvs

[neneu10]

Launch 1.6
Average 1.4

[Nicky91]

Launch: 1.2 million

Average: 900.000

[Rob!]

Launch 1.2m

Average: 1.1m if that. The scheduling is just too ridiculous. Obviously officials are due to be massively beefed up with the new arrangement (we would hope) but the overnights are going to be horrific.

[Eddie.]

Launch: 1.5 mil.
Overnight Average: 0.8 mil.
Series Average: 1.0 mil.

The end of Civilian BB for sure...

[Jake.]

Bumping this for the morning!

[Rob!]

I'm going to be optimistic and go for 1.4 for the launch.

[Greg!]

I think she flopped. Think 1-1.1million. Hope I'm wrong though and it's more!

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Yeah I feel like the response to the show itself was pretty flat on social media. People were mainly justp talking about the fact it had been axed (a mixed respone lbr- some people seemed quite gleeful at the prospect). So my guess would be a very similar figure to last year.

[supertv247]

I’m so conflicted lol

Pros:
The Final series
The hype leading from CBB
The great promo campaign

Cons:
Friday night
Gogglebox
Continuous degrading

[Beastie]

250,000

[pontyboi]

Yeah I feel like the response to the show itself was pretty flat on social media. People were mainly justp talking about the fact it had been axed (a mixed respone lbr- some people seemed quite gleeful at the prospect). So my guess would be a very similar figure to last year.

What are you talking about #BigBrother #BBUK and Channel 5 were trending from 12pm and #BBUK is still the top topic trending even Emma Willis and BOTS are trending which hasn't happened in ages.

The housemates were trending and at one point were dominating the top 10 on Twitter and everyone was talking about it on Facebook.

They were not just talking about it being axed. I think this could rate extremely high compared to last year.

Im going for 1.4 over night and 1.7 official.

[Captain.Remy]

So how did it go?

[*mazedsalv**]

I think anything over 1.32m that BB18 got would be seen as good.

I hope it can be at least 1.4m, but i think it was more like 1.1m

[*mazedsalv**]

So how did it go?

Normally ratings come out around 9:45am.

[Jake.]

Big Brother Launch: 905k (6.0%)
BB BOTS: 395k (5.5%)

[Jake.]

Dreadful.

[lewis111]

905k (6%)

[lewis111]

That’s embarrassing and it’s kinda proving Ben Frow right ugh

[Jake.]

Should not have launched on a Friday.

[lewis111]

And with no Highlights tonight I can’t see as many people sticking around as there usually would be

[Glenn-C]

Lewis G did that?

[nonstop]

Under 1M from the launch, MESS

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[supertv247]

o m g she’s dead

[pontyboi]

Oh ffs!

Such a disappointment for an amazing launch.

Cannot believe they launched it on a Friday with so much competition...Actually its Channel 5 so I can.

When does the new ratings system kick in? Hopefully it will add a lot.

[supertv247]

I’m honestly shocked, I didn’t expect a miracle.. but wow

After trending on twitter over 30 different times from noon yesterday until midnight, after being on EVERY news channel throughout the day, what would it have got without that publicity of it ending? :skull:

[Jase.]

Oh dear. :/

[y.winter]

:megaskull:

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[jackc1806]

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[Glenn-C]

I'd rather not think about how it's going to do tomorrow night...

[Nicky91]

those bad ratings are channel 5's fault :oh:

[BBUK-Fan]

Still better than Channel 5s ratings without it but not great for the show.

[Rob!]

........I have no words whatsoever.

[Rob!]

That’s lower than BB18’s final. I...how?

[Eddie.]

That's embarrassing...

[Rob!]

Jesus and that’s WITH +1 as well, meaning it got below 900k. For a ****ing launch.

[Ross.]

Maybe it’s her time to go after all?

[AProducer'sWetDream]

:skull: Ngl now she's been axed I'm kinda looking forward to seeing just how low it can go.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Nnn is Sunday on at 10pm as well? What we saying, 250k? :skull:

Honestly though, I'm thinking this could be the first series ever to rate under 1 million overnight every night?

[Rob!]

Nnn is Sunday on at 10pm as well? What we saying, 250k? :skull:

Honestly though, I'm thinking this could be the first series ever to rate under 1 million overnight every night?

Well it’s not going to go any higher than that so yeah.

I’m actually stunned.

[Rob!]

I think if Endomol are going to try and revive the format they are actually going to have to agree to drop the civilian version.

[T*]

I think last series put people off, it was a mess

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Well in a way it's good they scrapped the Saturday shows

[T*]

As in BB18

[T*]

but like it’s not down to the civilan format there was so little promo

[JoshBB]

Oml. How did this happen??? I'm so upset.

How tf does Love Island get ~4m and Big Brother 900k...

[T*]

And you have to remember some probably heard the news but didn’t realise it was tonight

[AProducer'sWetDream]

but like it’s not down to the civilan format there was so little promo

I mean it was literally on the TV and radio news multiple times, in every major newspaper and trending on twitter all day. The whole country was talking about it and... none of them wanted to tune in.

[T*]

I mean it was literally on the TV and radio news multiple times, in every major newspaper and trending on twitter all day. The whole country was talking about it and... none of them wanted to tune in.

Too little too late? They may have wanted to watch her but they’ve found out too late about it and had plans... It might fare well catchup wise

[Captain.Remy]

The struggle is real. But to be frank, I don't care for the ratings anymore, I'm just watching it for what it is and enjoy it.

[T*]

I’m sure 18-24 year olds love BBC news!

[T*]

And like the only promo you can see other than on social is on C5... no ones gonna see the promo on George lambs ancient train adventures

[Aaliyah]

Ben Frow has done this on purpose, and purposely launched on the Friday so there was no show the next day and ensure that no one else will pick the show up due to low ratings. He has sabotaged us and trust me he WILL pay for what he has done

[bots]

if the format goes over to netflix or amazon the viewing figures are irrelevant

[storybrooke]

Wow that sounds pretty dire, I really hope someone else picks the show up next year

[Vladimir]

She deserved way more! **** C5!

[BBDodge]

People often tune in to the launch to see who the housemates are.

Those brief clips shown earlier already convinced casual viewers not to bother.

[Babayaro.]

Big fat WELP

[mxhunter]

Nnn is Sunday on at 10pm as well? What we saying, 250k? :skull:

Honestly though, I'm thinking this could be the first series ever to rate under 1 million overnight every night?

250k? It will probably be taken off air in a few weeks if that’s all it can get this year !!

[RileyH]

WELP

[Will.]

A scream

[Denver]

I dont think it matters at this point?

[pontyboi]

I dont think it matters at this point?

It matters more than ever.

It needs to rate a lot higher for other channels to pick it up and pay the hefty price tag for the show.

If its a flop who is going to want to fork out 40 million for it?

[Headie]

The fansites are saying C5 did this on purpose with the scheduling to kill it off/put other broadcasters off taking it :skull:

It's dead, time to just enjoy the last series and move on!

[Samm]

The fansites are saying C5 did this on purpose with the scheduling to kill it off/put other broadcasters off taking it :skull:

It's dead, time to just enjoy the last series and move on!

this tea, honestly who cares about ratings anymore the show is on it's way out :skull:

[Greg!]

They probably did though tbf, A Friday launch, against gogglebox, with no episode tomorrow. Was always going to flop.

[Denver]

It has nothing to do with scheduling but the **** show series they have put out for years which is why people didnt turn in

[Denver]

It matters more than ever.

It needs to rate a lot higher for other channels to pick it up and pay the hefty price tag for the show.

If its a flop who is going to want to fork out 40 million for it?

Endemol will have to realise CBB is the money maker and have to drop the price a lot

[reece(:]

Ben Frow has done this on purpose, and purposely launched on the Friday so there was no show the next day and ensure that no one else will pick the show up due to low ratings. He has sabotaged us and trust me he WILL pay for what he has done

Hitman teas

[JoshBB]

I really don't understand why some of y'all are almost celebrating how low the launch ratings were, this isn't a good sign for a BB fan by any means...

[Ant.]

when I got a message saying "omg at the ratings" I was expecting it to be 2 million+ bc naturally I thought fans of old and new would tune in to see the final launch following the news

but nope all we got is A FLOP

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Although tbf if the interest is indeed coming from online services like Netflix/Amazon, then the overnights aren't massively relevant and the officials will be more of an indicator of how lucrative it could/couldn't be for them.

She's still dead tho

[JoshBB]

Although tbf if the interest is indeed coming from online services like Netflix/Amazon, then the overnights aren't massively relevant and the officials will be more of an indicator of how lucrative it could/couldn't be for them.

She's still dead tho

^^

The overnight ratings were like, almost doubled once officials were added during a lot of CBB22. Big Brother would certainly be a good risk for Netflix/Amazon/YT to take.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Anyway I'll be doing the Lord's work and watching again on catchup with my flatmate who missed it.

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[Nicky91]

It matters more than ever.

It needs to rate a lot higher for other channels to pick it up and pay the hefty price tag for the show.

If its a flop who is going to want to fork out 40 million for it?

other channels can make it work and be successful i guess, rather than the dire and vile channel 5 who didn't have any effort for BB at all

[Denver]

I want to know why Endemol want 40 million a year? clearly they dot make other countries pay that

[Headie]

I really don't understand why some of y'all are almost celebrating how low the launch ratings were, this isn't a good sign for a BB fan by any means...

Recognising that the show is tired and and needs a lengthy rest is hardly celebrating low ratings but ok sis!

[CiaraNelly2000]

I think anything over 1.32m that BB18 got would be seen as good.

I hope it can be at least 1.4m, but i think it was more like 1.1m

Is this you Stefano?

[supertv247]

900k is only 100k more than what some episodes of CBB got on catch up ALONE :skull:
maybe the future of this show is online

[Rob!]

So what do we think tonight?

Everything is against it. I'm guessing 600k? :(

[Nicky91]

So what do we think tonight?

Everything is against it. I'm guessing 600k? :(

C5 is desperate for low ratings, so i expect also around 600k

[RileyH]

600k is generous

[Nicky91]

600k is generous

too much for a crap channel like C5, who are disrespectful towards their shows :idc:

[*mazedsalv**]

Probably 600k

But this series deserves to climb, that episode was iconic,

Lets just hope that the **** ratings was because Gogglebox was on....

[*mazedsalv**]

Is this you Stefano?

It is :)

[pontyboi]

Probably 600k

But this series deserves to climb, that episode was iconic,

Lets just hope that the **** ratings was because Gogglebox was on....

I know im a loser for dreading tomorrows viewing figures and will be perched like a lout drinking larger watching their favourite team at a football match hoping they win!

Kind of get the feeling you have that same passion for BB which makes me feel less of a geek :p

[pontyboi]

Last night got 755k not sure if that included plus 1 and don't know the share yet.

[supertv247]

755k inc+1 6.9% share up 0.9% on the launch night share

This episode is higher than the last 2 Sundays last summer, other than them it's the lowest Sunday rating ever, but that's not too bad considering it was on until 11:30pm and every Sunday last year was on 9-10pm or 10-11pm

[*mazedsalv**]

755k inc+1 6.9% share up 0.9% on the launch night share

This episode is higher than the last 2 Sundays last summer, other than them it's the lowest Sunday rating ever, but that's not too bad considering it was on until 11:30pm and every Sunday last year was on 9-10pm or 10-11pm

Hopefully 10-11 tonight will help it into the 800s st least...

[Will.]

Welp

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Not too bad considering the launch figure. Maybe losing the Saturday episode was a good thing after all- it certainly made me more excited for the episode. I really hope this series climbs as it deserves it. Hopefully if the word of mouth is positive then the catch-up figures will be decent.

[*mazedsalv**]

Welp

I think catch up numbers will be large....

[Beastie]

Im not surprised with the ratings. But hey as long as we enjoy the show..

[Nicky91]

not ratings higher than i had expected :facepalm:

[Eddie.]

Still crap for such a good series...

[Rob!]

Okay so 150k down from launch under the circumstances, that’s alright. First hurdle crossed. I do wonder if it’ll climb as the week goes on.
I mean Christ, I know we’re talking about ridiculous numbers here but we’ve got to put a positive spin on it.

[Greg!]

The 3 most popular videos on My5 right now are two episodes of BB and one episode of BBBOTS. The 4th most popular is an episode of Peppa Pig.

[pontyboi]

Okay so 150k down from launch under the circumstances, that’s alright. First hurdle crossed. I do wonder if it’ll climb as the week goes on.
I mean Christ, I know we’re talking about ridiculous numbers here but we’ve got to put a positive spin on it.

There's nothing positive about this imo.

The main show is getting what BOTS used to get.

[Rob!]

There's nothing positive about this imo.

The main show is getting what BOTS used to get.

I know that but we can either work with what we’ve got or just moan for eight weeks.

[*mazedsalv**]

There's nothing positive about this imo.

The main show is getting what BOTS used to get.

It is terrible.

But one thing we can say is 10-11 30pm.

Considering ITV could only get 1m at the same time proves that anything ending that time will never do well.

I think finishing at 11 tonight will maybe help it to the 800s. I know it's bad but it's late (not for me). All I saw on social media was people saying they won't watch that late.

Also at that time I think what channels will look at are share (they do this for morning and afternoon TV). The fact that it was up in share is at least a bit of good news.

A 7% share at 9pm would equate to between 1m-1.2m.

It's probably not fair to compare 9pm episodes to 10pm as there is in general around 5 million more people watching T.V. at 9pm than 10pm.

So I think may be shares will show us how well it compares?

[*mazedsalv**]

Just to note BB18s first hl show got exactly the same share (6.9%) desite getting 1m.

[Rob!]

Y’know, I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility for us to get a rating that’ll beat the launch at some point.

[BigBrudder]

Y’know, I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility for us to get a rating that’ll beat the launch at some point.

Agreed! I think if the series continues to be good people will slowly discover it again, get hooked and make it a habit. Also some controversy in the press ala Roxanne wouldnt hurt and is likely to eventually occur and hopefully bring viewers on board.

I personally felt the launch show was very slow due to the inordinate time spent with Emma interviewing the housemates families. The choice of housemates and mix were very good though, which bodes for more interesting highlight shows than the relatively slow paced launch which i believe may have switched viewers off.

[Rob!]

The series so far is perfect and remember the catchup numbers will be bigger than usual. Like I say, I know we’re working with tiny numbers at the moment but I don’t think this series is dead and buried yet.

[*mazedsalv**]

Y’know, I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility for us to get a rating that’ll beat the launch at some point.

I agree with you here.

[Will.]

670K last night excluding +1

[pontyboi]

670K last night excluding +1

This is sad :( this is the best year ever on Channel 5 its only been 3 episodes and so much has happened.

[Aaliyah]

This is sad :( this is the best year ever on Channel 5 its only been 3 episodes and so much has happened.

10pm slots ig

[Nicky91]

10pm slots ig

with a better time schedule, it would get better ratings, so the flop is all on vile C5 :sad:

[thisisdanny]

I don't get why everyone on Twitter are making an issue over the 10pm slots. Digital Spy even made an article about it. http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-brother/news/a866438/big-brother-start-time-channel-5-10pm-9pm-fans-not-happy/

Every series of BB the weekday episodes have aired at 10pm (Excluding Friday obviously)

It's not the timeslot that's killing it tbh. Plus I think a lot more people use catchup these days. In fact Big Brother is the only thing I watch "live", everything else including the soaps I watch on catchup or record them.

Am I right in thinking from this month catchup figures are added to officials?

[Rob!]

Urgh I was hoping last night would rise :(

[Rob!]

WHY?????

[Greg!]

lol maybe the catch-up ratings will be amazing who knows. They're more important anyway for persuading platforms like Netflix to show it.

[Rob!]

698k+1. It’s on too late for the +1 to make much of a difference

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Wow she ain't getting picked up by another channel huh

[supertv247]

698k for BB at 10pm while C5 had 1.1m for Paddington at 9pm.

I know people keep saying 10pm is the problem, but BB has almost always aired at 10pm. During BB17 they started airing inconsistently at 9 and 10pm and the 10pm shows literally averaged 150k more than the 9pm shows for the whole series. Last year was a different story and was all just rubbish, which is why I thought it was just a blip and that this year would be back up to the C5 norm, but nope...

[Rob!]

And from here it’s got The Circle to contend with for three weeks.

All we can hope now is that the catch up numbers are huge.

[Greg!]

The Circle has been promoted by C4 within an inch of its life, theres adverts all over social media. Still think it'll flop mind

[thisisdanny]

And from here it’s got The Circle to contend with for three weeks.

All we can hope now is that the catch up numbers are huge.

At least the launch won't clash though. I'm interested in watching it but I can't see it being a big success tbh

[DouglasS]

BB is doing terribly. It shouldn't be on at 9pm as it cannot compete or do better than the current Channel 5 shows on at 9pm.

[lewys]

all their insta comments are about it being at 10 so it's obviously an issue

[BB-Germany]

Well it's on almost 3 months later than usual so that is also a factor.
Meddling with the launch date killed BB16 and it didn't work this time around either.

[DouglasS]

all their insta comments are about it being at 10 so it's obviously an issue

BB fans come up with any excuse as to why its failing. The general public just aren't interested anymore sadly.

[supertv247]

10pm has never been an issue but I never thought about the fact it's usually summer, not term time. Maybe that is the issue. Catch up will be interesting

[thisisdanny]

10pm has never been an issue but I never thought about the fact it's usually summer, not term time. Maybe that is the issue. Catch up will be interesting

So did the week of viewing figures released yesterday on BARB for CBB include catchup?

[RileyH]

Are we even gonna get 1m officials nn

[y.winter]

Can they stop burying it at 10pm :skull:

[supertv247]

So did the week of viewing figures released yesterday on BARB for CBB include catchup?

They just included catch up, not on demand viewing. Hopefully in 2 weeks when the first full set of officials come for bbuk they include everything

[chris.g]

10pm over the summer doesn't matter because most people are off. 10pm in term time is a problem. C5 know this and have deliberatley done it.

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[MTVN]

10pm over the summer doesn't matter because most people are off. 10pm in term time is a problem. C5 know this and have deliberatley done it.

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Not really 'most people', just those under 21. In any case aren't there generally more people watching tv in autumn than summer

[James]

I think the main problem - and always has been with C5 - is starting a new series so soon after a celebrity one finishes.

People feel they have just watched the final of Big Brother and aren't ready for a new series to start.

[JoshBB]

I think the main problem - and always has been with C5 - is starting a new series so soon after a celebrity one finishes.

People feel they have just watched the final of Big Brother and aren't ready for a new series to start.

I thought this. I know a bunch of people who didn't want to watch Big Brother because they'd just finished CBB and have that "sense of completion". It's just a bit overkill and I can understand it, tbh

[JoshBB]

How much did the officials add to the BB18 ratings btw?

[James]

Yeah, C5 running so many series together has really reduced the interest in it. (I think the other main problem is that they targeted a younger audience - because that earns the most the advertising revenue - and that has been at the expense of part of the audience.)

Last time they ran a civilian series right after a celebrity one was in 2011, when it first started on Channel 5. It had been off the air for nearly a year.

I checked the ratings for 2011.

CBB8 averaged 2.8m, and BB12 1.55m, so a big decline. Comparable to what you are seeing now.

By the way check this: "The [CBB8] launch show received 5.3 million viewers, a 21.9% launch share, and also peaked at 8 million, winning its time slot. It gave Channel 5 its highest-ever audience outside of sports programmes and films, and one of its top five ratings of all time."

:shocked:

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Big_Brother_8_(UK)#Ratings

[thisisdanny]

10pm over the summer doesn't matter because most people are off. 10pm in term time is a problem. C5 know this and have deliberatley done it.

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The last 2 series have started early June until late July. The summer holidays don't begin until late July...

[Glenn-C]

Just bury ha

[Rob!]

Just bury ha

Do you mind if we wait for the series to finish?

[Morgan.]

The last 2 series have started early June until late July. The summer holidays don't begin until late July...

College summer holidays begin anywhere from late May to early June though remember.

Anyway I genuinely don't think the term time thing is a good excuse. I literally don't know a single person who sets themselves a bedtime for school/college and most just go to sleep when they're ready.

[supertv247]

How much did the officials add to the BB18 ratings btw?

BB18
Launch - 1.31 | 1.57 (+260k
Average - 0.87 | 1.24 (+370k)

BB17
Launch - 1.60 | 1.86 (+260k)
Average - 1.14 | 1.58 (+420k)

BB16
Launch - 1.83 | 2.09 (+260k)
Average - 1.13 | 1.36 (+230k)

[Elliot]

Damn this is depressing I thought there would be a ratings spike lol
C5 could’ve done a lot for this series including promo a better time slot even a better term to do it in that wasn’t so close to Cbb but nope emerdol is planning on selling the show to another channel so let’s do everything in our power to make sure it tanks!!!

Get Ben frow out

[pontyboi]

I think The Circle on Channel 4 is going to annihilate BB watched it earlier and is actually really good.

Though they would literally only have to get over 700k to do this so...

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Yeah I think BB will be absolutely crushed tonight. the twitter hashtag is completely dead. Has it dipped below 500k before?

[Elliot]

Oh well good sis Roxanne tried to revive her but she is no match for the overproduced other garbage reality shows and Ben frows incompetence xx

[supertv247]

It got 450k against the Olympic opening and again during the closing ceremony... that’s it :laugh:

[pontyboi]

It got 450k against the Olympic opening and again during the closing ceremony... that’s it :laugh:

Was it that low? I thought it only dropped to 600k when Lauren was evicted?

[Rob!]

The Circle is going to kill the ratings off completely. It was very well received on Twitter and I can't see BB getting anymore than about 500k for the next few weeks :(

[pontyboi]

The Circle is going to kill the ratings off completely. It was very well received on Twitter and I can't see BB getting anymore than about 500k for the next few weeks :(

I know and is still trending on Twitter hours after the show.

BB didn't even show up tonight.

I think people think BB is just to old school especially the younger viewers who literally were born when the 1st BB was launched. I have an 18 year old brother and he doesn't understand why I like it so much.

He gets that its in popular culture but would never watch it.

[supertv247]

5.5 million for bake off...

1 million for the circle...

a flop. Maybe bb actually has a chance to win tonight :laugh:

[supertv247]

682k (6.6%) for BB last night. Outside of the 2012 Olympic clashes, second lowest rating of all time...

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[AProducer'sWetDream]

Better than I was expecting but still God-awful :joker:

[Greg!]

She'll hopefully reach the stratospheric heights of 700k tonight! :fc:

DIRE for The Circle considering how much it's been promoted. Literally featured on every C4 ad break for about 3 weeks, always promoted on social media, and billboard and bus posters. And still it flopped!

[Elliot]

I think we just have to concede people don’t care about this show anymore. After c5 has well and truly overkilled it to the ground and the last time it was well and truly relevant was like a decade ago....

But also like I don’t wanna live in a world where love island gets 4mil and Bb barely scrapes 600k lol

[Greg!]

I think we just have to concede people don’t care about this show anymore. After c5 has well and truly overkilled it to the ground and the last time it was well and truly relevant was like a decade ago....

But also like I don’t wanna live in a world where love island gets 4mil and Bb barely scrapes 600k lol

Well clearly there are people that care but nowhere near as many as there used to. It's a cult show with a core audience of about a million when you take into account online viewing figures. I think Netflix or somewhere similar would be a good home for it and hopefully endemol can persuade them!

[Greg!]

I'm Channel 4 losing 4.5 million viewers in the time between Bake Off ending and The Circle beginning

[Elliot]

Well clearly there are people that care but nowhere near as many as there used to. It's a cult show with a core audience of about a million when you take into account online viewing figures. I think Netflix or somewhere similar would be a good home for it and hopefully endemol can persuade them!

Yeah I just mean the general public. It’s only ever actually talked about after some huge controvocy then it fades back into its devote audience. It’s more of a relic at this point in the general public consensus, which is kinds bleh to come to terms with considering how much ****ty love island is talked about by like everyone asdfg. At least they can cash in on the publics weird obsession with celebrities with Cbb!

Also I’m bots probably getting like 100k or less

[Rob!]

Awful. Even if The Circle flops, it’s still going to hit BB badly.

[Rob!]

But yeah that’s terrible for The Circle. Freddie did that?

[supertv247]

I'm Channel 4 losing 4.5 million viewers in the time between Bake Off ending and The Circle beginning

This is hilarious because they paid hundreds of thousands to skip those adverts - it went straight from bake off into the circle and everyone still didn't care :hehe:

[supertv247]

682k (6.4%) is awful BUT it's up on the C5 average for 10pm by 2.2% share points and the 16-34 demo is up nearly 50% - even a **** rating for bbuk is exceptional for Channel 5.

[Rob!]

So thus far it’s lost 223k from launch.

[MTVN]

I think normal BB just feels like a relic of the noughties to most people now and the news it was being cancelled just reinforced that. CBB will always have a bit more appeal cos celebrity culture has endured quite strongly and there'll always be that curiosity about what a celeb is 'actually like'

[supertv247]

Wednesday 19th

Big Brother - 700k
The Circle - 400k

Some good ratings news I guess :shocked:

[Jake.]

Ffff

[AProducer'sWetDream]

:joker: Poor Alice

[Elliot]

Lmao poor the circle

[Vanessa]

I'm not expecting big ratings at 10 pm. Mist people are in bed, myself included. I watch on catch up.

[Rob!]

Wow. I’m not going to go overboard here because obviously it’s still ****e but I honestly thought the circle would obliterate BB

[*mazedsalv**]

The only good news is that The Circle lost. What a flop after all that promo push!

Anyone think that BB's officials will add quite a lot? Especially if the new BARB system FINALLY comes in (which they said September, so surely next Monday!).

Wouldn't be surprised if we see 500k increases to around 1.2m (same as BB18).

I heard it was 680k last night, hopefully without +1 so it can at least be in the 700s.....

[Jack_]

I knew The Circle would end up flopping, people have no taste. All that other ****e on C4 that people lap up smh

Hope they don't change anything and just let it run its course in the hope that word of mouth spreads, unlike when C5 hit the panic button

[*mazedsalv**]

I knew The Circle would end up flopping, people have no taste. All that other ****e on C4 that people lap up smh

Hope they don't change anything and just let it run its course in the hope that word of mouth spreads, unlike when C5 hit the panic button

I think Circle will stabilise at 400k-500k and not fall further.

And BB looks stuck between 670k-700k for three days in a row. So that is what we will probably see everyday.

[Rob!]

I think Circle will stabilise at 400k-500k and not fall further.

And BB looks stuck between 670k-700k for three days in a row. So that is what we will probably see everyday.

The one thing BB has going in its favour is that the people that are watching love it so it shouldn’t fall much further. At least it hasn’t got a Saturday rating to worry about now. Can you imagine what Saturdays would be now? :laugh:

Mind you, I can’t see the 90 minute Sunday shows doing that well either

[CiaraNelly2000]

C4 should just take BB back cod the circle has flopped. BIG TIME!

[mxhunter]

C4 should just take BB back cod the circle has flopped. BIG TIME!

Axe The Circle and pay £40 million to revive a show that only gets an extra 300k viewers?

[supertv247]

Axe The Circle and pay £40 million to revive a show that only gets an extra 300k viewers?

lol BB wouldn’t only get 700k viewers if revived on C4!

Firstly, they wouldn’t have two CBB’s so it’d be £30m or less. Secondly, it’s a bigger channel so would automatically have bigger advertising reach to get higher ratings. Thirdly, the whole revive and back on its original channel would garner a lot of extra interest :)

[DouglasS]

Completely undeserved The Circle has been far better than BBUK and is just superior in everyway

[DouglasS]

Hopefully it'll be similar to Love Island where it 'flopped' on ratings at first, but due to the qualify of the show it actually rises whilst BB falls and ends up beating it.

[mxhunter]

lol BB wouldn’t only get 700k viewers if revived on C4!

Firstly, they wouldn’t have two CBB’s so it’d be £30m or less. Secondly, it’s a bigger channel so would automatically have bigger advertising reach to get higher ratings. Thirdly, the whole revive and back on its original channel would garner a lot of extra interest :)

It very well might get some extra interest but I think you're exaggerating the extent that this extra interest would be, unless you're basing your post on an assumption that Channel 4 would have let the show rest for five years before reviving it?

[Jake.]

Anyone know the share for last night?

[Greg!]

Hopefully it'll be similar to Love Island where it 'flopped' on ratings at first, but due to the qualify of the show it actually rises whilst BB falls and ends up beating it.

It's ****

[Elliot]

Hopefully it'll be similar to Love Island where it 'flopped' on ratings at first, but due to the qualify of the show it actually rises whilst BB falls and ends up beating it.

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[y.winter]

:skull: @ the circle

I lowkey wanted it to do well, because C4 and all of that. But I guess it was destined to flop. Losing 60% of the viewers is an utter tragedy.
At least it's not the US here - they would've cancelled the series by now lol.
Worst case scenario, it'll join "Shattered" in the one-off C4 RTV club, so it's in good company.

[T*]

the circle is really good? like its not even 'yay the circle flopped' no bc a good show deserves better ratings than another one thats going ****e after a strong start

[T*]

it's still 400k viewers that could be watching BB so it's not even a win lmao

[Greg!]

the circle is really good? like its not even 'yay the circle flopped' no bc a good show deserves better ratings than another one thats going ****e after a strong start

It's crap and Big Brother is better and I'm glad C4's attempt to kill it off for good is flopping :)

[Oaker]

But BB's ratings didn't even go down when it clashed with The Circle? :skull:

[T*]

It's crap and Big Brother is better and I'm glad C4's attempt to kill it off for good is flopping :)

its really not lmfao its getting better every night and is doing the complete reverse of BB

[T*]

come thru catchup

[Greg!]

its really not lmfao its getting better every night and is doing the complete reverse of BB

Sis how can you say it's not flopping when it went from 1m to 400k viewers. BB is flopping as well mind but this series deserves better ratings imo and hopefully it'll get them

[pontyboi]

its really not lmfao its getting better every night and is doing the complete reverse of BB

I like The Circle but you cannot disagree that its flopping, only 400k tuned into it last night...That's abysmal!

[T*]

i didn't say that it's not flopping i said it's increasing in quality whilst bb is doing the reverse ffs

[T*]

enjoy though

[pontyboi]

i didn't say that it's not flopping i said it's increasing in quality whilst bb is doing the reverse ffs

Again though BB has increased its quality massively so...

[Rob!]

Plus it could be argued that The Circle flopped way more than BB has this year because BB has only lost 200k of it's viewers from launch while The Circle lost 600k in the space of a night.

[Jack_]

It's crap and Big Brother is better and I'm glad C4's attempt to kill it off for good is flopping :)

You watched one episode, you're wrong

The channel trying to kill off Big Brother for good is C5 lol

[Greg!]

You watched one episode, you're wrong

The channel trying to kill off Big Brother for good is C5 lol

Tea but you're delusional if you think C4 are fine with BB returning revitalised and revamped on another channel

[Jack_]

Tea but you're delusional if you think C4 are fine with BB returning revitalised and revamped on another channel

And you're delusional if you think C4 are under ANY impression that that's a realistic possibility

Everyone knows it's over for the foreseeable future

[Zizu]

And you're delusional if you think C4 are under ANY impression that that's a realistic possibility



Everyone knows it's over for the foreseeable future



It sounds like it will be continuing to be honest ... this year it's being shown in five countries more than last year so it's hardly in decline.

There may be subtle changes but I'm sure it will be going for a few more years


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[Jake.]

its really not lmfao its getting better every night and is doing the complete reverse of BB

What? This week of BB has been consistently good lol

[Rob!]

No rating anywhere yet but the Michael Palin documentary won the 9pm slot last night with 2.4m. The lead in won’t affect BB as I suspect the audiences would have been completely different.
Also, BB was against Celebrity Juice last night so it may well have taken a hit.

[Nicky91]

No rating anywhere yet but the Michael Palin documentary won the 9pm slot last night with 2.4m. The lead in won’t affect BB as I suspect the audiences would have been completely different.
Also, BB was against Celebrity Juice last night so it may well have taken a hit.

D:

why would anyone tune in to that dull Michael Palin

:shrug:

[mxhunter]

D:

why would anyone tune in to that dull Michael Palin

:shrug:

Because it was an interesting documentary topic

[mxhunter]

I hope Big Brother did better last night

[Elliot]

Because it was an interesting documentary topic

With an uninteresting person

Charley Uchea in North Korea? I’d tune into that af

[emmetmcl]

690 thousand according DS.
The Circle got less, 350k as far as I know.

Edit, that excludes +1

[Nicky91]

Because it was an interesting documentary topic

interesting documentary for me is more what's on Nat Geo :flutter:


i so love their new schedule, with every day a different theme night


Michael Palin however is a uninteresting journalist though

[Rob!]

So around 700k. At least it’s consistent :unsure:

[Greg!]

690 thousand according DS.
The Circle got less, 350k as far as I know.

Edit, that excludes +1

BB got 690k excluding +1.

The Circle got 450k including +1

[bots]

interesting documentary for me is more what's on Nat Geo :flutter:


i so love their new schedule, with every day a different theme night


Michael Palin however is a uninteresting journalist though

No he is not. He has done many really interesting travel programs over the years and was a core member of the Monty Python team

[mxhunter]

With an uninteresting person

Charley Uchea in North Korea? I’d tune into that af

You would be one of the only ones

[Nicky91]

No he is not. He has done many really interesting travel programs over the years and was a core member of the Monty Python team

wait what, i didn't know this

[mxhunter]

wait what, i didn't know this

Why do you denounce someone as dull and uninteresting when you don't know anything about them?

[Nicky91]

Why do you denounce someone as dull and uninteresting when you don't know anything about them?

i knew he was a journalist, but the monty python thing i didn't know about him

[Aaliyah]

Wow The Circle is really underperforming, I thought it would have really damaged BB ratings and would have got better ratings every night.

[*mazedsalv**]

Don't know if we will find out the +1 :(

But if we do an average of what it has been getting at 11pm on +1, then I'd assume it would be around 730k.

Either way, it's the highest rated since Sunday (excl +1 is is 70k up on the night before) not like it makes it much better.

[*mazedsalv**]

Huge for the Palin doc.

Guess that pretty much gives C5 the "YAY" they wanted in cancelling BB. Not good, is it? It's the highest C5 rating of the year.

[Rob!]

First time they’ve won the 9pm slot since...CBB8? Or was it the X Files?

[Elliot]

But he’s so awful whyyyyy

[MTVN]

The Palin doc was really interesting and they promoted it quite heavily so not surprised it did well, not the sort of program you'd expect from 5 at all

It is only a 2 part doc though so it alone doesn't prove that they don't need BB

[James]

This is the most depressing thread on the forum.

[James]

They've been trying to change the image of Channel 5 recently with programmes aimed at older viewers. The Palin documentary is part of that.

[MTVN]

This is a great thread celebrating that BB is SMASHING the Circle out the park

[y.winter]

tbh the North Korea was interesting, let alone the topic itself - but there aren't many other north koreas out there to produce more of that show. So C5 can go back to their dogs and cats fail compilation programs.

The Circle is becoming a disaster in the ratings. Just awful seeing these numbers.

[supertv247]

Celeb Juice got 350k, an all time low. Doubt that dented bb at all

Tonight will be interesting. Could be better because it's not a school night, could be worse because people go out on Fridays :shrug:

[Rob!]

So last night got 740k, highest since launch.

The dizzy heights of 800k are coming!

[supertv247]

So last night got 740k, highest since launch.

The dizzy heights of 800k are coming!

Sunday got 755k...

[MTVN]

We're climbing!

[T*]

Again though BB has increased its quality massively so...

I meant out of this series sis is it really that hard to comprehend
I meant that the quality of BB19 started out strong and then has started to go down as the week went on where as the circle started really weakly (probably why she’s flopping) and is really good now

[supertv247]

Big Brother - 700k
The Circle - 550k

Quite good for BB to hold up the high end of what it’s got all week for such a late Friday show, surprised the circle managed to add 100k on a Friday night too

[Rob!]

Urgh I can’t believe we’re getting excited about 700k :laugh:

[*mazedsalv**]

Urgh I can’t believe we’re getting excited about 700k :laugh:

Same lol

But when you say it in this kind of way " It finished at 11 35pm and was only 200k down on launch" it makes it sound OK.

But still 700k in the context of this series is Ok lol

Big struggle tomorrow as the first 15 mins clash with The Last 15 mins of Bodyguard which I predict will be around 10 million.

So erm... 550k?

[iRyan]

Doesn’t it matter more how it’s performing in its target demographic than its total number of viewers? I’m not sure if UK ratings work differently but in the US, having a high rating in your key demographic is what makes advertisers pay up and keeps a show running. Overall numbers don’t matter as much.

[T*]

What? This week of BB has been consistently good lol

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[pontyboi]

Big Brother - 700k
The Circle - 550k

Quite good for BB to hold up the high end of what it’s got all week for such a late Friday show, surprised the circle managed to add 100k on a Friday night too

The Circle is creeping up towards BB mind.

Still I didn't expect BB to get 700k thought it would drop to around 600k.

[supertv247]

Doesn’t it matter more how it’s performing in its target demographic than its total number of viewers? I’m not sure if UK ratings work differently but in the US, having a high rating in your key demographic is what makes advertisers pay up and keeps a show running. Overall numbers don’t matter as much.

Yeah, the key demo of 16-34’s is still most important in the UK too. Endemol said that BB had the highest percentage of 16-34 viewers last week, more so than even Bake Off and X Factor.

[supertv247]

Same lol

But when you say it in this kind of way " It finished at 11 35pm and was only 200k down on launch" it makes it sound OK.

But still 700k in the context of this series is Ok lol

Big struggle tomorrow as the first 15 mins clash with The Last 15 mins of Bodyguard which I predict will be around 10 million.

So erm... 550k?

15 minutes of a 90 minute show shouldn’t bring the average down that much, and I assume most - like me - will just rewind those 15 minutes anyway so they’ll still be counted as VOSDAL

[Rob!]

Is it this Monday we'll get officials or the week after?

[supertv247]

Is it this Monday we'll get officials or the week after?

On Monday we’ll get officials for the CBB final, the BBUK launch and the first Sunday episode, then next Monday we’ll get the first full week. That will hopefully be when on demand viewers are counted, if not this week

[*mazedsalv**]

On Monday we’ll get officials for the CBB final, the BBUK launch and the first Sunday episode, then next Monday we’ll get the first full week. That will hopefully be when on demand viewers are counted, if not this week

I'm looking forward to tomorrow even though it's only 3 officials, but it will give an indication of the amount of viewers will be watching for the rest of the series, I'm going to say this:

CBB Final- 2.11m

BB launch- 1.33m
1st HL show- 1.21m

[Rob!]

I'm looking forward to tomorrow even though it's only 3 officials, but it will give an indication of the amount of viewers will be watching for the rest of the series, I'm going to say this:

CBB Final- 2.11m

BB launch- 1.33m
1st HL show- 1.21m

Is My5 added on yet though? I’d have thought we’d get higher officlals if that’s being put in too? I’d love to see it be beating BB18 officially because some of those officials were terrible :laugh: