The New Conservative Prime Minister is Boris Johnson 23/7

[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/james-cleverly-becomes-11th-tory-mp-to-enter-leadership-race-11730567

They are slowly appearing

Boris Johnson,, 54

Jeremy Hunt , 52


Michael Gove , 51





Possible TV debates are being talked about.

[Livia]

If he's the right man for the job, great! If not... then no.

[Matthew.]

Oh jesus not James Cleverley he’s a right slimy tit, makes my skin crawl. Better not be him

[joeysteele]

Crumbs..
The list is getting bigger but the choice worse in my view.

Cleverly is awful too.

Apart from Rory Stewart, Matt Hancock and Sajid David and possibly Hunt.
I wouldn't entertain the others.

If I was a Conservative, I'd be supporting Rory.
In fact he could perhaps get people like me back.

He's just been on TV and said as to social care for the vulnerable and elderly.
He'd rather have that with the NHS taken out of party politics.
With consensus on securing the best for that.

Something I've always agreed with.

Compared to the ugly divisive rhetoric of Farage and co.
That is like a wave of fresh air entering the room of politics.

[arista]

Oh jesus not James Cleverley he’s a right slimy tit, makes my skin crawl. Better not be him


So far
it's Boris Johnson with the big backers

[Livia]

I think that pretty soon, there will be more MPs in the leadership bid than there are out of it.

[Oliver_W]

Rory Stewart is my favourite on the list.

[joeysteele]

I think that pretty soon, there will be more MPs in the leadership bid than there are out of it.

:joker: I knew we'd get a great one liner from you.
Nice one Livia.:joker:

[Livia]

Rory Stewart is my favourite on the list.

And mine. He's a bit of a dude. Did you know Brad Pitt wants to make a film of his life so far?

[arista]

Labour Party do not want Rory Stewart.


The Whole Race
needs to speed up.

[Livia]

:joker: I knew we'd get a great one liner from you.
Nice one Livia.:joker:

Actually it initially read, "I think, joey..." and then someone posted after you so rather than go back and quote you I just took your name out LOL..

[Vicky.]

I would go for Stewart of those.

However, anyone with a bit of sense would surely run a mile from this, a short term position thats soley to stop the future leader having the brexit thing hanging over them if it all goes south. Its the same as it was when May stepped up tbh, she was never going to be a longterm leader, and she would probably still be ambling on if not for quite how badly she did it. So now, they need someone else to take the crap, before electing the proper leader afterwards.

[joeysteele]

Labour Party do not want Rory Stewart.


The Whole Race
needs to speed up.


Well that's another plus to him.

[joeysteele]

Actually it initially read, "I think, joey..." and then someone posted after you so rather than go back and quote you I just took your name out LOL..

I always look out for your quick quips.
So sharp and hitting right home.:wavey:

[reece(:]

Cleverly is horrendous

[joeysteele]

And mine. He's a bit of a dude. Did you know Brad Pitt wants to make a film of his life so far?


I've read that too.
He has a fascinating story of his life, it would be interesting.

[Livia]

I've read that too.
He has a fascinating story of his life, it would be interesting.

I can't see them making a film about any of the other contenders, can you? In fact I'd pay not to have to sit through a film about Boris.

[Oliver_W]

And mine. He's a bit of a dude. Did you know Brad Pitt wants to make a film of his life so far?

Crikes, I didn't know that! He's lived one heck of a life, which is more than you can say for almost any mainstream politician right now.

[bots]

i'm going to stick my neck out and say that the candidate that promises a new referendum will get the job

[Livia]

i'm going to stick my neck out and say that the candidate that promises a new referendum will get the job

Hmm.... I think it's split down the middle. Half of them will be alienated if a new referendum is promised, and half of them will be alienated if it's not promised.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Esther FTW

[Denver]

i'm going to stick my neck out and say that the candidate that promises a new referendum will get the job

A remainer just destroyed the country so the job is defo going to a brexiteer

[Livia]

I think it'll be a Brexiteer too.

[Liam-]

Anyone but Johnson or Leadsom, preferably Rory

[user104658]

It's a career-ender so hope it's your least favourite and then in a couple of years, you'll never have to hear from them again.

[joeysteele]

I can't see them making a film about any of the other contenders, can you? In fact I'd pay not to have to sit through a film about Boris.


I agree totally Livia.

[joeysteele]

Good grief.
Esther McVey on TV this morning was truly awful.
In the 2015 election, I helped Labour in her then seat and was overjoyed she lost it.

For goodness sake, she is one who should be rock bottom of this leadership poll.

Horrible individual politically.

[arista]

Good grief.
Esther McVey on TV this morning was truly awful.
In the 2015 election, I helped Labour in her then seat and was overjoyed she lost it.

For goodness sake, she is one who should be rock bottom of this leadership poll.

Horrible individual politically.


Yes she went on all TV channels
But SkyNewsHD 9AM All Out Politics show
Rory Stewart spoke to Adam Boulton
in the Westminster Studio.

[bots]

the whole thing is meaningless until it gets down to the final 2. Anyone can stand that gets 2 nominations, so there will be bucket loads standing on this occasion because it's seen as the right thing to do.

[Alf]

Steve Baker is a major player if he decides to run, he's mulling over whether to at the moment, but he's getting a lot of encouragement to.

In a recent 'Conservative home' leadership survey, he came in forth place.

The top ten were

Johnson 33%
Raab 15%
Gove 12%
Baker 7%
Stewart 6%
Hunt 4%
Mcvey 3%
An other 2%
Cleverly 2%
Javid 2%

[arista]

the whole thing is meaningless until it gets down to the final 2. Anyone can stand that gets 2 nominations, so there will be bucket loads standing on this occasion because it's seen as the right thing to do.


Yes the Final 2
Bring the buggers on.


Meanwhile

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[Alf]

Whoever wins will be remembered in history as either. the Prime Minister that took the UK out of the EU or The last Tory Prime Minister.

[Livia]

Good grief.
Esther McVey on TV this morning was truly awful.
In the 2015 election, I helped Labour in her then seat and was overjoyed she lost it.

For goodness sake, she is one who should be rock bottom of this leadership poll.

Horrible individual politically.

We agree again. I don't feel like she's truly shaken off the superficial, puddle-shallow, fluffy TV Presenter image.

[arista]

For Alf

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D71JfmoXYAcYHD5.png

[chuff me dizzy]

Steve Baker is a major player if he decides to run, he's mulling over whether to at the moment, but he's getting a lot of encouragement to.

In a recent 'Conservative home' leadership survey, he came in forth place.

The top ten were

Johnson 33%
Raab 15%
Gove 12%
Baker 7%
Stewart 6%
Hunt 4%
Mcvey 3%
An other 2%
Cleverly 2%
Javid 2%

Ive not heard of half of them ? We need a strong leader who is a Brexiteer ,Boris will do for me,Im just sorry Rees-Mogg isn standing, he is my number 1 choice

[chuff me dizzy]

We agree again. I don't feel like she's truly shaken off the superficial, puddle-shallow, fluffy TV Presenter image.

I despise her for defending the McCanns

[Tom4784]

Boris is a moron and Rees-Moggs is a hypocrite. Hopefully Boris' trial will be enough to destroy his chances and the farther RM stays away from Downing Street the better.

[hijaxers]

I don't care about which one of the pamperloins win cos they are totally *******ed and how deserving they really are !

[arista]

The 12th Mark Harper , a former whip
joins the Race

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2019/03/21/TELEMMGLPICT000177247103_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberW d9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth= 450

[Ammi]

..it’s like the gathering of a jury...12 Angry Men/Women..:laugh:...

[bots]

people were complaining that there was no democracy in the last leader elected (which is true) and now they are complaining there is too much democracy .... can't win :laugh:

[joeysteele]

people were complaining that there was no democracy in the last leader elected (which is true) and now they are complaining there is too much democracy .... can't win :laugh:

12 and growing is near farcical though.
For any Party.

It's not over yet, still more to come.
Too much choice can be as unwelcome as too little.
Especially when most seem to be directing themselves to closely similar outcomes.

I can't find or bring to mind any leadership election with even 12 let alone probably more to be added yet too.

It has even got Conservative MPs wanting it looked at, to increase the number of MPs supporting a candidate, to be changed upwards.

[arista]

13 now

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He left his position
and wants to stop Brexit.

https://www.bournemouth.ac.uk/sites/default/files/styles/bournemouth_wysiwyg/public/assets/images/SamGyimah38.jpg?itok=Npy7Bp8Z
Back when he was in the Cabinet

[arista]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hLVVTLnTTPIO43qTM7GsGs5GqvQ1UVGKmd_n1B51s5M/htmlview?ts=5ce7aed7&sle=true#gid=0

Who is backing Who?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8CkXCnWwAANMEy.png

[joeysteele]

Bakers dozen now.
13.
Still likely to rise.

A wide choice is a good thing but over saturation a bit ridiculous.

[arista]

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[bots]

they can have 500 candidates, it doesn't matter. I will predict the final 2 will be remain vs brexit and then it's up to the members to decide.

[arista]

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[arista]

Radio Five Live presenter Nicky Campbell calls
Foreign Secretary 'Jeremy *******' live on air - at least the fifth time
a BBC presenter has made the error

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7098579/Radio-Five-Live-presenter-Nicky-Campbell-calls-Foreign-Secretary-Jeremy-C-live-air.html


Why J.Hunt is not a good name
for a PM.

[Vicky.]

I don't get it, 12 people nominating themselves for a position that is surely short term, and definitely a poisoned chalice as whatever happens, they will anger a LOT of people, probably still not manage to do owt about brexit, and be made to step down like May. If not before Brexit (IF they manage to do anything, which again I doubt) when people get sick of them, or just after so they can take the flack for the recession and such that will surely follow. Hell, even if Brexit turns out to be a good thing (perosnally doubt it) there will still be a recession, short ish term at least..and the next Tory leader will claim they would have done it differently, blah blah blah, they could have avoided it, blah, and everything will be laid at the feet of whoever is chosen here.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8Iwz5yX4AA1mXO.jpg


Yes I thought you would.

[arista]

I don't get it, 12 people nominating themselves for a position that is surely short term, and definitely a poisoned chalice as whatever happens, they will anger a LOT of people, probably still not manage to do owt about brexit, and be made to step down like May. If not before Brexit (IF they manage to do anything, which again I doubt) when people get sick of them, or just after so they can take the flack for the recession and such that will surely follow. Hell, even if Brexit turns out to be a good thing (perosnally doubt it) there will still be a recession, short ish term at least..and the next Tory leader will claim they would have done it differently, blah blah blah, they could have avoided it, blah, and everything will be laid at the feet of whoever is chosen here.

They think the Next general election
is 2022.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8IKK_YWsAAQNW3.jpg

I am sure you are


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8H6LhpXYAABrnP.jpg
I knew you would.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1135590220458598401/bHWjeLkY?format=jpg&name=600x314

[Alf]

James Cleverly has pulled out of the race.

[arista]

James Cleverly has pulled out of the race.



Yes that makes 12 of the list , at the min.

[joeysteele]

That's good.
Cleverley I doubt was ever in with any chance to be considered as leader.

[bots]

i expect a few more to join the race after May goes on Friday

[arista]

i expect a few more to join the race after May goes on Friday


Yes no longer PM on Friday
but she stays in job position , after
until one of these Men
win it.

[arista]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hLVVTLnTTPIO43qTM7GsGs5GqvQ1UVGKmd_n1B51s5M/htmlview?ts=5ce7aed7&sle=true#gid=0

Looks like the 2 Women
are not getting support
So it will be all Man Race


The 1922 Committee
says they will need at least 5 MP's to carry on
they are making a statement 5PM or 6PM

[Alf]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hLVVTLnTTPIO43qTM7GsGs5GqvQ1UVGKmd_n1B51s5M/htmlview?ts=5ce7aed7&sle=true#gid=0

Looks like the 2 Women
are not getting support
So it will be all Man Race


The 1922 Committee
says they will need at least 5 MP's to carry on
they are making a statement 5PM or 6PMPriti Patel would have been the female with the best chance, she's well respected by Brexiters, but she didn't put her name in the ring.

[arista]

Priti Patel would have been the female with the best chance, she's well respected by Brexiters, but she didn't put her name in the ring.


She still can
so long if she finds out she has backer MP's

[arista]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8Oi6xHWwAEkpI_.jpg

A Comedy Boris.

[arista]

Now 11
as Kit has left the race.

[arista]

We will have a New Prime Minister on Monday 22nd July


Ref: All Out Politics SkyNewsHD

[Daniel-X]

Esther McVey is rancid

[Cherie]

Gove v Boris would be an interesting one...both awful though

[bots]

im surprised corbyn is not standing, he is desperate enough

[reece(:]

grfSr_Sqf1E

[Matthew.]

Cleverley has dropped out

https://media.giphy.com/media/j2MQEK6HuO83FpjVYZ/giphy.gif

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8XNXjOXsAA72Fz.jpg
Yes I thought YOU would

[arista]

Esther McVey is rancid


She claims to have Backers
But not enough according to the charts.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hLVVTLnTTPIO43qTM7GsGs5GqvQ1UVGKmd_n1B51s5M/htmlview?ts=5ce7aed7&sle=true#gid=0

[joeysteele]

Esther McVey is rancid

She is indeed.

[Denver]

Can Penny or Priti please stand

[arista]

Can Penny or Priti please stand



They can Tomorrow
if they wish.


The current 2 women
have low number backers.

[arista]

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[arista]

The PM has now given up her job.
However she stays in 10 Downing St
as Acting PM
Until a New PM is chosen by Conservatives on Monday July 22nd

[arista]

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[reece(:]

yhUuamfhjQ8

[arista]

Yes reece she is Live on Marr 10AM
tomorrow

[joeysteele]

Gross, I cannot stand Esther Mcvey.

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/brI4mbxWLyPSAvda0fysDw/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/hvdh3zLcR2KO2a8fwn1P_mirror.PNG

[bots]

Dope isn't a big deal but cocaine and opium most certainly are

[arista]

On Marr BBC1HD Esther McVey
was nailed to say she would also shut down Parliament
using the Queen
If she needed to etc.

She does not have enough
numbers of MP's backing her to win.

The Nominations close Tomorrow.


Boris now has 56 MP's backing him
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hLVVTLnTTPIO43qTM7GsGs5GqvQ1UVGKmd_n1B51s5M/htmlview?ts=5ce7aed7&sle=true#gid=0

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8oFapTXYAExflU.jpg

[arista]

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[bots]

Whoever wins has to go through a democratic process of selection. End of story

[arista]

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Pathetic that he did not want the lights on him?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8sShIsWwAIqJTT.jpg

[bots]

3 or 4 of those intending to stand don't yet have sufficient backers, 8 required i believe, so it should be a shorter field by the end of the day

[arista]

3 or 4 of those intending to stand don't yet have sufficient backers, 8 required i believe, so it should be a shorter field by the end of the day


Yes be good after today to cut away
the weak MP's

Like Sam.
(Sam Gyimah, 42)


Nominations end at 5PM today

[arista]

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[bots]

looks like things are warming up :laugh:

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[reece(:]

Screaming!

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[arista]

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The Full list arrives around 6PM
Nominations have closed at 5PM

[arista]

First one Gone out of the Race

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[Twosugars]

When is this freak show scheduled to end, Arista?

[arista]

When is this freak show scheduled to end, Arista?



22nd of July Monday
we get a New Prime Minister


Until then they are going all over the country


SkyNewsHD have a TV debate

18th June BBC1HD 8PM Live debate
with who ever is left.

[Twosugars]

Sweet jesus, so more than a month :skull:

When is the first cull?

[arista]

Sweet jesus, so more than a month :skull:

When is the first cull?


In a min. (the 1922 committee Unveil it)

And on Thursday this week at 1PM

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hLVVTLnTTPIO43qTM7GsGs5GqvQ1UVGKmd_n1B51s5M/htmlview?ts=5ce7aed7&sle=true#gid=0

Also Boris now has a Massive 64 MP's backing him, now

[Oliver_W]

Oh god, it's gonna be bloody Boris ain't it ...

[arista]

Live Now
SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD

[arista]

The 10 got through
just Sam out. (Sam Gyimah, 42)

Boris Johnson,, 54
Rory Stewart, 46
Jeremy Hunt , 52
Sajid Javid ,49
Esther McVey , 51
Michael Gove , 51
Andrea Leadsom, 56
Dominic Raab , 45
Matt Hancock, 40
Mark Harper, 49

This Thursday 1PM
the next voting round

[bots]

Funny that Esther McVey was accusing May of non engagement when McVey is a dreadful communicator .... one of the worst i have seen

[joeysteele]

Esther McVey is horrible.
Absolutely atrocious attitude.

[arista]

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Yes sadly not enough MP's backing her.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8w8-uWXYAAul4S.jpg


Its no good Rory
that Cat
can not vote for you

[Calderyon]

He just wants a piece of that pussy.

But the cat does not seem interested. Probably a Labour voter.

(Because the caresser is a Conservative candidate)

[arista]

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Turn your volume up a bit


Esther used to work with Lorraine
on ITV AM , then.

[bots]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8w8-uWXYAAul4S.jpg


The cat is saying it doesn't want to talk to him unless he can supply it with some opium

[Wizard.]

So who didn't get enough votes?

[arista]

So who didn't get enough votes?


Yesterday
Sam Gyimah, MP

http://www.samgyimah.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Untitled-design-11.png

Thursday is the Next Vote tally Cull.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8yZ6I2XoAEyocb.jpg

[bots]

wyWtjJSyUio

i think he should be the new PM for that alone

[arista]

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Boris Johnson is doing his launch today
but will he limit questions from the press?

[joeysteele]

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Boris Johnson is doing his launch today
but will he limit questions from the press?


He's being unusually and extremely quiet.

He must be smouldering inside keeping in all he'd love to be saying normally.

This is totally false behaviour as to him.

[arista]

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https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1138509301830619136/Wz5w1mb9?format=jpg&name=600x314

[arista]

Boris is Live now


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D82oGJLW4AAiA9d.jpg


Some live feed
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[arista]

Boris is taking
6 Press questions.
BBC first
Then SkyNewsHD
Then ITVNewsHD

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[arista]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D82whGoXsAA_tPl.jpg

[Vicky.]

https://www.facebook.com/sallyanne.kirk/videos/10161740328145114/UzpfSTEwMDAwMjIyMDAxNTMyMDoyMjk0MDI0MzM3MzQ4MjEx/?notif_id=1560254344241671&notif_t=mention

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/cjK7XZ6-HH3IBihHXynQWQ/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/TEuK5NiTnyASqLWxmgx7_i.JPG

[arista]

https://www.facebook.com/sallyanne.kirk/videos/10161740328145114/UzpfSTEwMDAwMjIyMDAxNTMyMDoyMjk0MDI0MzM3MzQ4MjEx/?notif_id=1560254344241671&notif_t=mention


Yes H
to C


So many have done just that.

[chuff me dizzy]

So glad Boris is running away with it now ,he's the man for the job ...Its a pity Rees Mogg not standing as he's my 1st choice, but Boris will do fine

[arista]

So glad Boris is running away with it now ,he's the man for the job ...Its a pity Rees Mogg not standing as he's my 1st choice, but Boris will do fine


Yes he has a Massive amount of MP's
backing him
no one can match him

[MTVN]

And this is why

https://i2.wp.com/order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/D8zym_bWwAAnShU-1.jpg?zoom=2&resize=330%2C252&ssl=1

[bots]

And this is why

https://i2.wp.com/order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/D8zym_bWwAAnShU-1.jpg?zoom=2&resize=330%2C252&ssl=1

very interesting.

If it's true Boris is the only viable option for the tories

[reece(:]

And this is why

https://i2.wp.com/order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/D8zym_bWwAAnShU-1.jpg?zoom=2&resize=330%2C252&ssl=1
Fantasy land

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes he has a Massive amount of MP's
backing him
no one can match him

Im glad, he's the one to get us out of the EU ,Hopefully without a deal

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8326vIXUAA4krQ.jpg


Sajid Javid is live now
The Scottish Conservative Leader
started it all off.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D835fjhXkAAtuFg.jpg

[arista]

Boris Johnson
now has a Massive 80 MP's
backing him.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hLVVTLnTTPIO43qTM7GsGs5GqvQ1UVGKmd_n1B51s5M/htmlview?ts=5ce7aed7&sle=true#gid=0

[joeysteele]

Fantasy land

It probably is reece..
I never get why polls, especially with likely loaded questions and of a snap poll nature.
Get taken seriously.

Theresa May, just 2 years ago was expected right up to polling day, to get an overall majority of 50+ up to over 100.
With Labour to fall under 200 seats at least.

As you say fantasy land because before brexit happens, and this poll clearly is supposed to be a pre leaving scenario.
No way would any Party, irrespective of who is leader, get anything near an overall majority.
In an election held before brexit is done.

[chuff me dizzy]

Boris Johnson
now has a Massive 80 MP's
backing him.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hLVVTLnTTPIO43qTM7GsGs5GqvQ1UVGKmd_n1B51s5M/htmlview?ts=5ce7aed7&sle=true#gid=0

:dance: Come on Bozzo

[arista]

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[bots]

how many will get knocked out from the race today and who will they be?

I Reckon there will be 5 left after today

Boris, Gove, Hunt, Javid and Raab

[arista]

how many will get knocked out from the race today and who will they be?

I Reckon there will be 5 left after today

Boris, Gove, Hunt, Javid and Raab


Yes could be,
the problem is
its a secret ballot

[Vicky.]

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64395588_2399447653667491_4119682185932308480_n.pn g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=5489ab5bc05bc455063d44b867875380&oe=5D9B3D74

Hmm. Like picking which STD you would rather have really..

[Liam-]

Is it like, Tory policy to be as cruel and money hungry as possible? Those voting records are appalling

[bots]

that table is quite clearly compiled by someone with an agenda. Tory MP's vote according to their manifesto shocker

Also, only yesterday the house committed to new climate targets, so thats not true for starters:hee:

[arista]

Is it like, Tory policy to be as cruel and money hungry as possible? Those voting records are appalling


Its a Dodgy chart
Not fact

[arista]

that table is quite clearly compiled by someone with an agenda. Tory MP's vote according to their manifesto shocker

Also, only yesterday the house committed to new climate targets, so thats not true for starters:hee:


Yes set in Law
2050


Yes a old Chart
is no good at all.

[Vicky.]

IDK, was posted on FB.. I checked a couple of the voting records (not whole thing admitedly)and it seemed right :shrug:

[Withano]

Yes set in Law
2050


Yes a old Chart
is no good at all.

Which aspect of the chart do you think is incorrect? All looks right to me.

[arista]

Which aspect of the chart do you think is incorrect? All looks right to me.

No
is not a good chart.

[Withano]

No
is not a good chart.

Which part do you think is incorrect?

[arista]

IDK, was posted on FB.. I checked a couple of the voting records (not whole thing admitedly)and it seemed right :shrug:



Yes typical for Facebook

[arista]

Which part do you think is incorrect?


"measures to prevent climate change"



Yesterday (up to date)
it was set it in law by the current PM.

[Withano]

"measures to prevent climate change"



Yesterday (up to date)
it was set it in law by the current PM.

That was an amendment to a 2008 policy (with a year 2050 target), there was no formal vote.

All of those politicians typically vote against measures to prevent climate change.

[arista]

That was an amendment to a 2008 policy (with a year 2050 target), there was no formal vote.

All of those politicians typically vote against measures to prevent climate change.


They did vote to stop Climate
you mean

[Withano]

Boris Almost always voted against measures to prevent climate changeShow votes
1 vote for, 7 votes against, 5 absences

Gove Generally voted against measures to prevent climate changeShow votes
5 votes for, 12 votes against, 11 absences

Hunt Generally voted against measures to prevent climate changeShow votes
6 votes for, 11 votes against, 11 absences

Raab Generally voted against measures to prevent climate changeShow votes
4 votes for, 13 votes against, 2 absences

Javid Generally voted against measures to prevent climate changeShow votes
2 votes for, 15 votes against, 2 absences

Cant be bothered to do the rest, but its all public knowledge. The table is accurate.

[arista]

Yes in the past
bad record on it

[Withano]

Yes in the past
bad record on it

... and the present. There was no recent vote.

[arista]

"The table is accurate. "

Yes for years ago.

[Withano]

"The table is accurate. "

Yes for years ago.

And still to this day. Stop being stubborn, and pick your favourite STD. None of them are just the common cold.

[arista]

And still to this day. Stop being stubborn, and pick your favourite STD. None of them are just the common cold.

OK
I must stop being Stubborn
Fair Point Withano,

[MTVN]

It's a bit of a misleading table I think with no context, like what exactly does 'guaranteed jobs for young people' mean

[arista]

Media is saying 4 will be be knocked out

Thats good,

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1139117796451913734/HjFeiPP4?format=jpg&name=600x314

Claims he will get 105 backers , soon.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D87yOcOUEAEZ5cx.png

[chuff me dizzy]

https://breakingbrexitnews.blog/2019/06/13/bbn-boris-is-set-to-smash-other-candidates-with-the-most-votes/?fbclid=IwAR2LGZ8pRf-05y59lJ8D1lIS9ydyZPvNENloWCle8BcGJ_AREiiFdK9eRIs

[MTVN]

114 for Boris, basically guarantees him a spot in the final two

[arista]

3 are out
Leadsom
Harper
McVey

[arista]

[13:06 RESULT: First round of Tory leadership contest

Michael Gove: 37

Matt Hancock: 20

Mark Harper: 10

Jeremy Hunt: 43

Sajid Javid: 23

Boris Johnson: 114

Andrea Leadsom: 11

Esther McVey: 9

Dominic Raab: 27

Rory Stewart: 19

313 votes were cast, which means all Tory MPs voted.]

[chuff me dizzy]

3 are out
Leadsom
Harper
Mcvey

SO glad Mcvey is out ... Javid out next round please :dance::dance:

[bots]

i don't think Gove will be in the final 2. It will be Boris with Hunt or Stewart

[MTVN]

SO glad Mcvey is out ... Javid out next round please :dance::dance:

Why?

[arista]

i don't think Gove will be in the final 2. It will be Boris with Hunt or Stewart



Yes next vote
they need double the amount of MP's 32
next week

[bots]

looking at things from a different angle, the table below shows the donations received by each candidate

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/8F61/production/_107350763_b3cf3535-8216-4212-91cf-34b975c19762.png

[Tom4784]

At least McVey's out of the running. The rest of the results are too grim to talk about.

[Twosugars]

Bet mcvey will support boris

[Withano]

Happy to see Leadsom out too. Daft bint.

[Twosugars]

OK
I must stop being Stubborn
Fair Point Withano,

Arista dragged

[Denver]

We love you Boris we do

[Matthew.]

We love you Boris we do

Do we shįte we can’t stand the boy

[Matthew.]

Cock

[Twosugars]

Cock

I'd say arsehole but we wont split hairs

[Cherie]

Boris in power will be interesting given all his family are remainers

[bots]

Boris will be similar to Trump, but all he needs to do is unite the tory party and its job done. If anyone can do that he can. Let's face it he can't do any worse than May.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D89L9f8XkAYpOJZ.png

[smudgie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D89L9f8XkAYpOJZ.png

I think Mr Hammond will be on the back benches shortly.:hehe:

[hijaxers]

Cock

I think the Tories want this 'cock' to commit political suicide and then they'll get who they really wanted as PM for next election.

Prob won't take too long knowing Boris.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D84TbMtXsAEcU02.jpg

[arista]

The Media are saying
Matt Hancock MP may drop out as he only has 20 MP's backing him.

Meanwhile Rory Stewart MP only has 19 MP 's backing him
and he wants Boris to go onto the
Sunday Ch4HD Live Conservatives Debate

[bots]

Boris doesnt need to debate anything at this point. He has enough MP's in his pocket to get to the final vote. Rory on the other hand has everything to gain and nothing to lose from a TV debate as no-one knows who he is and he is last in the race

[Oliver_W]

Boris doesnt need to debate anything at this point. He has enough MP's in his pocket to get to the final vote. Rory on the other hand has everything to gain and nothing to lose from a TV debate as no-one knows who he is and he is last in the race

Yeah, tbh most of his ideas would be either seen positively or neutrally by most people, a public debate would only be good for him.

[chuff me dizzy]

Boris doesnt need to debate anything at this point. He has enough MP's in his pocket to get to the final vote. Rory on the other hand has everything to gain and nothing to lose from a TV debate as no-one knows who he is and he is last in the race

:clap1:

[joeysteele]

Actually, thinking about how Johnson made 2 valid strong arguments, one for remaining in the EU and one for leaving.

He is so unpredictable, he won't want the USA dictating to him.
I wouldn't put it past him actually doing another turncoat action.

Arguing leaving may not be the best thing.
If anyone could possibly get away with that.
He could.
That would unite most of Parliament and likely pulk in votes from across the UK.

It would pacify Scotland and N Irish voters.
Even if not reversing leaving totally, he actually could just possibly get away with weakening the leaving process.
Which could gain him more appeasing action by the EU too.

I don't want him as leader.
I've said Theresa May will go down as likely the worst ever PM of the UK.

If Johnson sticks to his at this time, hard stance and his buffoonery.
Then he may well be the last PM of the UK as it is.
Hastening the breaking up of it.

Does he want that, if not, what will he do to ensure it cannot be a possibility.

Running London however is near a world away from running a supposed United Kingdom of 4 individual Nations.

Me, I wouldn't trust Johnson on anything really and anything, even reversal of things he claims as sacrosanct, comes easy to him.

[bots]

People have had enough of standard politicians, they have shown they can't be trusted. Boris may not be any different, but no-one can accuse him of being a standard politician. He can't do any worse than May, and he could easily unite the Tory party behind him so that what labour do is of no consequence. None of the other hopefuls are capable of uniting the party, and if he succeeds he will capture all the brexit party voters and win the next election with a landslide ..... That's politics

[arista]

Matthew Hancock MP
has withdrawn from the race.

[Vicky.]

Boris definitely has this. Mind, I still think anyone seriously wanting the reigns right now is a bit of an idiot as..they are smply there to scapegoat.

[Underscore]

Sad to see Matt Hancock withdraw. He was my favourite!

[Denver]

It shows how weak he is, he didnt have a genuine reason to quit but makes him look very weak quitting for lack of votes rather then trying to get more

[arista]

Sad to see Matt Hancock withdraw. He was my favourite!


He only got 20 MP's
and no increases


So he had to withdraw

[joeysteele]

It's a pity he has withdrawn.
I think he should have continued at least to the next round.

Would be good to see most of his supporters now back Rory.

[arista]

1139479990955851776


https://news.sky.com/story/lord-sugar-backs-boris-johnson-as-pm-despite-demanding-he-be-jailed-over-brexit-11741731

[bots]

1139479990955851776


https://news.sky.com/story/lord-sugar-backs-boris-johnson-as-pm-despite-demanding-he-be-jailed-over-brexit-11741731

When a labour peer chooses to say this, it shows how bad Corbyn is

[Denver]

I read someone the other day but forgot where that Corbyn would put us in a Venzuela type state

[chuff me dizzy]

The thought of Corbyn getting the keys to number 10 is very scary

[Tom4784]

The thought of Corbyn getting the keys to number 10 is very scary

But the thought of us putting the country in the hands of a tango'd maniac's greasy hands are fine?

Corbyn is useless but people who fear him becoming the prime minister but not us becoming Trump's ***** is silly.

[Headie]

1139479990955851776


https://news.sky.com/story/lord-sugar-backs-boris-johnson-as-pm-despite-demanding-he-be-jailed-over-brexit-11741731

1139506894467403776

[joeysteele]

When a labour peer chooses to say this, it shows how bad Corbyn is

What, Alan Sugar.
A totally deluded self centred individual who even thinks he can sack people before even employing them.

He's left the Labour Party anyway, thank goodness.

Lord Sugar, I'd change the S word of his surname to another.
It would match then what mostly comes out of his mouth.

[Northern Monkey]

People compare Boris to Trump but i’d disagree.Boris is more dangerous than Trump because he’s not as clever.
He’s has a charm and is amusing but he is NOT prime minister material.His time as foreign secretary showed that.
I would not trust him with the nuclear brief case.

[joeysteele]

People compare Boris to Trump but i’d disagree.Boris is more dangerous than Trump because he’s not as clever.
He’s has a charm and is amusing but he is NOT prime minister material.His time as foreign secretary showed that.
I would not trust him with the nuclear brief case.

I actually agree with all that.

I'm no fan of Trump but I think it's hard yo work out what he is likely to do.
Which in a way is a good thing.
As to other World leaders.

Johnson on the other hand is in my view a dangerous acting the buffoon individual.

It's a world away from running London, a city.
To running a Nation of 4 inclusive Nations too.

As you say his time as Foreign secretary showed how bad he really is likely to be.
In that far more demanding role of a National leader as opposed to a City leader.

I just don't see him as trustworthy across the board as to all National levels.

[bots]

how does one know that anyone in parliament is trustworthy? I personally don't trust any of them Boris is no different from anyone else.

[joeysteele]

how does one know that anyone in parliament is trustworthy? I personally don't trust any of them Boris is no different from anyone else.

I think the vast majority of MPs go in the job to do their best.
Many do.

Johnson is untrustworthy in my view because of his mouth.
He offends and causes division.
He doesn't heal them.
He won't in the Conservative Party either.

If he stick's to his hard line on brexit, he'll alienate a fair number of his own Party.
If he softens further, he will infuriate the ERG side of his Party.

He has flip flopped on issues many times,on brexit too.
He's also, despite his usual loudmouth performances, rather deceitful.
For instance.
He has Rory Stewart really irritated.
Rory said he'd had a talk with Johnson and he'd left the strong impression he was no way going for no deal.

Then he publicly changed his stance.

If he can be so deceptive and inconsistent with his colleagues in Parliament.
The that doesn't bode well for the 4 Nations of the UK or Parliament to trust his word on anything.

Power clearly corrupts sadly but there are hundreds I'd say in my view, of all Parties, as to MPs who want to and would do their very best and are trustworthy.

To lump them all together as being untrustworthy, I think a little unfair.

[Twosugars]

Johnson is full of ****, that's my considered opinion

[arista]

Johnson is full of ****, that's my considered opinion


160,000 members
can vote him in.

All Legit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1139555053927370753/TDFGHBO-?format=jpg&name=600x314


1139850131958915072

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9GMmAlWsAAfG8l.jpg:large

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9PX04AXYAE5EKV.jpg

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1139814688638799873/ptu_rsKU?format=jpg&name=600x314

[arista]

Second Ballot Votes are :

Boris Johnson : 126
Jeremy Hunt : 46
Sajid Javid : 33
Rory Stewart : 37
Micheal Gove : 41


Dom Raab only got 30 so he is Out

[bots]

2nd place is up for grabs by any of them now

[arista]

2nd place is up for grabs by any of them now



Yes could well be the case

[Samm]

nooo not the most fittest one

[Liam-]

What a depressing few months it’ll be with that moron as our Prime Minister

[arista]

More Votes Tomorrow
and Thursday.

[arista]

Boris Johnson : 126
Jeremy Hunt : 46
Micheal Gove : 41
Rory Stewart : 37
Sajid Javid : 33



Tonight by 6PM
another MP is gone
but this time its the Lowest amount

So unless the numbers go up
for Javid
he is going out tonight.

[chuff me dizzy]

Boris Johnson : 126
Jeremy Hunt : 46
Micheal Gove : 41
Rory Stewart : 37
Sajid Javid : 33



Tonight by 6PM
another MP is gone
but this time its the Lowest amount

So unless the numbers go up
for Javid
he is going out tonight.

:dance:

[Kate!]

What a depressing few months it’ll be with that moron as our Prime Minister

won't it just. He is as bad as Trump.

[bots]

Rory's numbers wont increase from Raabs exit. I don't know if Javid can pick any of those up or not. If he gets 5, he is through till tomorrow

Many are saying that Rory picked up some votes so that he could make Boris squirm in the debate last night. If that was the case, his vote count might go down today

[arista]

The SNP Leader goes to War over Boris.

1141335324938969088

[Twosugars]

The SNP Leader goes to War over Boris.

1141335324938969088

Thank God for SNP, the real opposition

[Liam-]

The SNP Leader goes to War over Boris.

1141335324938969088

Suddenly I’m Scottish?

[Twosugars]

Johnson was an awful mayor.
Promised to solve homelessness but it doubled during his time in office.
Promoted gimmicky projects like the garden bridge which was Ill thought-out and would have ended up as a place for corporate jollies paid for by Londoners, underused cable car across the Thames, a routemaster replacement with windows that dont open, an estuary airport etc

Prepare for more crap like that but on a bigger scale

[Denver]

Raab is apparently backing Bojo which is showing that they all just want out no matter what

[arista]

Thank God for SNP, the real opposition



Does Boris Care?
the SNP want to Exit the UK.

[arista]

3rd Ballot Results

Boris Johnson : 143
Jeremy Hunt : 54
Michael Gove : 51
Sajid Javid : 38

Rory Stewart is Out. (only 27)

[Liam-]

:(

[Mitchell]

There goes any hope

[Liam-]

It’s like they see the polls and purposely do the opposite of what the public want to spite us

[bots]

Rory's numbers wont increase from Raabs exit. I don't know if Javid can pick any of those up or not. If he gets 5, he is through till tomorrow

Many are saying that Rory picked up some votes so that he could make Boris squirm in the debate last night. If that was the case, his vote count might go down today

i called it

[arista]

i called it


You sure did.

[Oliver_W]

Gove or Hunt then, I guess...

[Shaun]

Weird flip-flopping in the votes. Can only imagine the greasy, self-serving half-promises being made behind the scenes to turn people over from Stewart to Javid. If you can change your mind overnight why are you even voting?

[Cherie]

i called it

You did, he was pretty poor last night I was disappointed, Im not sure if he thought he was going to faint or something but he was not at his best at all, they are saying that his votes will go to Gove now

[arista]

Tomorrow there are 2 sets of votes
so we get down to the Final 2.

[Cherie]

They didn't want two old Etonians going head to head, I think they want Gove as he has a working class background so the Tories appeal to the masses or something...

[MTVN]

Back in your box Rory

[bots]

Seems like Rory is a pretty bad loser too listening to his interview after the result

[MTVN]

It's interesting there's no clear block vote move either from those who supported Raab or those who left Stewart. I think a lot of things Rory has said recently have crossed the line from being a maverick contender to being a bit deluded and also a bit too destructive. He almost sounded like a Labour MP at times last night

[arista]

Boris Johnson: 143 votes (+17)
Jeremy Hunt: 54 (+10)
Michael Gove: 51 (+10)
Sajid Javid: 38 (+5)

Rory Stewart: 27 (-10)


The Vote breakdown numbers.

[reece(:]

Rory could have saved the tories

They are doomed now and good riddance, horribly archaic party

[bots]

It's interesting there's no clear block vote move either from those who supported Raab or those who left Stewart. I think a lot of things Rory has said recently have crossed the line from being a maverick contender to being a bit deluded and also a bit too destructive. He almost sounded like a Labour MP at times last night

yeah, he was similar in his interview tonight. I think as these are all senior people left they have done a deal for cabinet positions and that's driving things more than anything else.

[joeysteele]

For a brief moment in this election.
Although I was like others certain Johnson was going to unbelievably end up PM of the, ( at present anyway), UK.

With Rory in the mix, I thought the Conservatives might just be starting to look forward.
To dismiss the old failed guard and look at fresh fields.

Clearly not.
On the backbenches, hopefully Rory wields the same problems for Johnson, that Johnson created for Theresa May.

[joeysteele]

Rory great as ever on Peston tonight.
Very fair, realised he hadn't performed at his best in the BBC programme.

His points all valid.

A big loss but he wouldn't have won this time anyway.
He re-stated he wouldn't serve in a Johnson cabinet.
I find that commendable.

On the backbenches, he could actually be one of the real power brokers.

I hold great respect for Rory.
Clearly integrity this time, is a loser as to the Conservative party.

[Twosugars]

Rory great as ever on Peston tonight.
Very fair, realised he hadn't performed at his best in the BBC programme.

His points all valid.

A big loss but he wouldn't have won this time anyway.
He re-stated he wouldn't serve in a Johnson cabinet.
I find that commendable.

On the backbenches, he could actually be one of the real power brokers.

I hold great respect for Rory.
Clearly integrity this time, is a loser as to the Conservative party.

It was our wishful thinking to expect a sensible man to be voted for by a party that lost sense of reality

[Scarlett.]

I mean, when you look at the past decade, the Tory party has been an absolute shambles. They had one year of having a majority in parliament, and in that one year, they damaged the country beyond repair. I can't wait to see them out of power.

[Samm]

the country is about to be run by another idiot, this country will become a laughing stock

[Kate!]

the country is about to be run by another idiot, this country will become a laughing stock

This. Can you imagine Trump and Boris together ... 2 idiots who shouldn't be allowed out on their own most of the time. Rubbing their fat hands together in glee. If Spitting Image was still on our screens they'd have a field day with the pair of those idiots. Tweedledum and Tweedledee.

[joeysteele]

This. Can you imagine Trump and Boris together ... 2 idiots who shouldn't be allowed out on their own most of the time. Rubbing their fat hands together in glee. If Spitting Image was still on our screens they'd have a field day with the pair of those idiots. Tweedledum and Tweedledee.


Great post Kate.

Sadly fully reflective too in a way of a Party actually in government at the time electing the worst possible candidate, insulting the vast majority of the UK possibly, who have found that man's created clown's actions, irritating, insulting and offensive.

One can hope, and I for one do, that this divisive, false, backstabbing turncoat is brought down and soon, by his brexit deceit and the same problems that hounded his predecessor.

If any Conservative really believes, this self styled buffoon will bring back Lib Dem or Labour voters.
They are very badly deluded.

The only votes he could gain are the more extreme elements of the Brexit party.
It won't be enough to get him an election win.

If he sees any bounce in polling once leader.
He'd do well to remember the imaginary bounce the polls said were there for Theresa May.
All having her 14% to over 20% ahead of Labour.
Which in polling day turned out to be around only 2%

July is a sad time for the whole of the UK, that this divisive and untrustworthy as to his word figure, is to be foisted on all the UK by a party and government, who should have been determined to put in place someone to unite the Nation not further likely divide it.

Says everything about the present Conservative party.

How I now wish Labour would now guarantee a further referendum.
I was against it but I have come to the view it would be desirable after the farce and this hardluner now being elected.
I also wish Labour would promise to look at proportional representation for elections too.

Anyway great post from you Kate.
I guess we can hope the dangerous element across the Atlantic may get chucked out next year too.

Such a strong and good opportunity to show they really cared about the whole of the UK, by the present Conservative party, has been trashed completely.
They've chosen to likely further divide than unite.
That is desperately sad at this time.
Also however one of the strongest irresponsible and incompetent choices ever as leader and PM.