Dominic Cummings PM’s top adviser broke lockdown rules TWO times

[arista]

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[Liam-]

Wasn't the story that it was a short(ish) local drive to make sure he could manage the longer trip, and they didn't even get out of the car when they got to the castle?

According to him they got out and sat by the river for a while

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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Agree with this

[Liam-]

People shouldn’t be hurling abuse at him in the streets indeed, however, to claim that’s one of the reason he did what he did in the first place is intellectually dishonest

[Kizzy]

No Kizzy
his wife was with him
ready to take over.


You Come On.

NO... you come on.

If you had any kind of eye issue you would ask someone else to drive. That's just common sense.

[Liam-]

‘I know I’ve been drinking officer, but I thought I’d just test to see if I could dive is all’

[Cherie]

Wasn't the story that it was a short(ish) local drive to make sure he could manage the longer trip, and they didn't even get out of the car when they got to the castle?

60 mile roundtrip to test his eyes with his family in the car

Its not a story, he confirmed this happened

[Kazanne]

‘Stop making everything political!’
‘This is definitely politically motivated’

This is how corrupt governments get away with things

It IS political its plain to see now.

[Liam-]

It IS political its plain to see now.

Maybe to the people that want it to be political, the only people defending it are Boris backing brexiteers, the criticism for it is cross-party, it’s people like you that are making it political, that’s plain to see

[Kizzy]

Talk about a post truth era...

[Beso]

It isn't, the whole thing is a farce, the eyesight nonsense is just the most glaring example of why the whole story is a turd sandwich. But some people seem totally happy to gobble it up :joker:. Yum yum yum, yummy poop sandwich, lay me another one Dom!

Corona virus effect your eyesight at the end of its infection in the body..it causes red eye.

It is very plausible that they'd decided to check he could drive before setting off..as that's the actions of a caring father.

You tuck into your press poop....I'm fine munching on the truth down here.

[Liam-]

Talk about a post truth era...

‘Alternative facts’ in full swing in Toryland

[bots]

It IS political its plain to see now.

i don't think it is Kaz, I don't think Dom is a well liked person to start with which doesn't help, and his behaviour is very dodgy on this. I personally think he should be sacked and I have tried my level best to be supportive of the government during this pandemic. I felt there were times where Boris has done an OK job, but now he is reverting to the character that made it impossible for me to vote Tory at the last election

[Kazanne]

Maybe to the people that want it to be political, the only people defending it are Boris backing brexiteers, the criticism for it is cross-party, it’s people like you that are making it political, that’s plain to see

:laugh:right on cue,people like me ???? ah yes those that don't agree with you.

[arista]

NO... you come on.

If you had any kind of eye issue you would ask someone else to drive. That's just common sense.


He was Checking
as a result, at that time
he was fine

[Liam-]

:laugh:right on cue,people like me ???? ah yes those that don't agree with you.

No, people that refuse to believe that something can be about more than Brexit or politics, sometimes it’s just about morals and integrity, like in this case

[arista]

Agree with this


Slim You Are Most Wise

[Kazanne]

i don't think it is Kaz, I don't think Dom is a well liked person to start with which doesn't help, and his behaviour is very dodgy on this. I personally think he should be sacked and I have tried my level best to be supportive of the government during this pandemic. I felt there were times where Boris has done an OK job, but now he is reverting to the character that made it impossible for me to vote Tory at the last election

He's not well liked and there is a reason for that bots imo, so I do think political stance comes into this ,in hindsight it was a bad move on his part , but the asking of the same questions over and over to me seem to be pointless,I don't know whether he should be sacked as that would lead to all those paps, and all the other people who have done it all losing their jobs, maybe he should have apologised I really don't know as I don't trust the press etc to give us the true facts, the eye test thing seems to be the thing now,but I have heard that Covid19 can affect the eyes,his second visit was false but reported as true,so that is why Im kind of sceptical of all this. I will still follow the guide lines and those that claim they wont now because of DC are just plain silly.

[Niamh.]

It isn't, the whole thing is a farce, the eyesight nonsense is just the most glaring example of why the whole story is a turd sandwich. But some people seem totally happy to gobble it up :joker:. Yum yum yum, yummy poop sandwich, lay me another one Dom!Actually the eyesight story is plausible, look. . .https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200526/c4921b661b1e8aafe003cf017f430dc1.jpg

[Liam-]

Why are people placing their reputations and their careers on the line for someone competent replaceable?

Michael Gove has said this morning that driving to different places for exercise has always been allowed and that’s why Dominic took a drive to the castle, which is just such a demonstrable lie that he can’t even possibly think it’s true surely, he must know that he is lying through his teeth.

[user104658]

He's not well liked and there is a reason for that bots imo

That he's an international/corporate agent who has all but freely admitted to using political lies and manipulation to steer major global events in a direction that benefits the billionaire elite, whilst showing nothing but scoffing indifference for anyone and everyone else? Yes indeed I would say there is "a reason".

[Liam-]

Let’s not forget he was found guilty of electoral fraud and paid a hefty fine, yet his reward was one of the highest paid jobs in the government

[Liam-]

That he's an international/corporate agent who has all but freely admitted to using political lies and manipulation to steer major global events in a direction that benefits the billionaire elite, whilst showing nothing but scoffing indifference for anyone and everyone else? Yes indeed I would say there is "a reason".

But he got Brexit done so leave him alone yeah

[Nicky91]

But he got Brexit done so leave him alone yeah

exactly, the main reason crook Cummings cannot do anything wrong in the eyes of the brexiteers :idc:


he just should have been sacked from his role as advisor, that he is allowed to stay by Boris the moronic clown, is a huge injustice

[user104658]

Why are people placing their reputations and their careers on the line for someone competent replaceable?

Because Dom Cummings has his fingers in so many pies that he can end a political career with a WhatsApp message. After this I don't know how it can be anything but crystal clear that this guy is far more than a random political advisor... some really dodgy **** going on right now in plain sight and yet it just... carries on... with a barely plausible "that'll do I suppose" excuse.

He's been trying to creep in for years... David Cameron referred to the guy as a "career psychopath" ffs... and now the government has hopped right into bed with him.

[Liam-]

Because Dom Cummings has his fingers in so many pies that he can end a political career with a WhatsApp message. After this I don't know how it can be anything but crystal clear that this guy is far more than a random political advisor... some really dodgy **** going on right now in plain sight and yet it just... carries on... with a barely plausible "that'll do I suppose" excuse.

He's been trying to creep in for years... David Cameron referred to the guy as a "career psychopath" ffs... and now the government has hopped right into bed with him.

He does seem to have many ties with foreign bodies and not in the Johnson-Arcuri sense, his connections with Russia have always been a cause for concern, especially with the report Boris is purposely sitting on, Cummings definitely knows where the bodies are, I just hope whatever he’s got on them is worth all of this to them

[Marsh.]

Yes but as he said ... she didn’t have the cough or the fever ... the two recognised signs at the time so she was ill but it wasn’t presenting as Covid19 at that time


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Erm... no he didn't.

[Zizu]

It's such a crock... worried about his eyesight so drove a car, with a kid in it?


Come on people!



The only mistake he made yesterday was repeatedly mentioning the weird eyesight thingy .. he should have just mentioned it once along with all the other symptoms he’d suffered.

I think that due to a mixture of nerves and mental exhaustion he referred to the ‘weird eyesight’ over and over again probably when he was trying to justify an action he’d taken .... “ I was exhausted , under great pressure , my eyesight was weird ..”

The eyesight thing is just an annoyance now as he made it clear that both him and his wife were concerned about going him driving all the way home took the after being very ill over the previous week or so .. and they took the decision to drive 30 minutes to ‘the’ castle simply to gauge if his driving was up to scratch .


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[Samm]

First poll since the Dominic Cummings situation Boris Johnson‘s approval rating has been knocked off by 20%, he’s in minus numbers for the first time.

[Marsh.]

What people, the ones I've spoken 2 couldn't give 2 fly you know what's...the press however and labour and the SNP...ohmygoodness you would think he had shot someone the way they are acting.

What have the people you have spoken to got to do with anything?

You claim not to give a damn yet have made 75 posts in this thread.

[Liam-]

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Driving miss hazy caught in yet another lie

[Samm]

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Driving miss hazy caught in yet another lie

Exactly, how can we believe a word he’s said? He’s a liar. He also didn’t mention the day he “tested his eyesight” driving to Bernard Castle was also his wife’s birthday?

[Marsh.]

I really don't think some people are that bothered about what he has done , as others were doing it way before this incident including other ministers ,it's more of who has done it, some people don't like him and its a great way to have a go at the government and hitting back at Brexit , we know what he's done and so it rolls on.I know I will get sniped at for this opinion but that's me.

You've gone from "Guys, we don't know the story, let him explain" to "Who cares actually, everyone does it!!" :facepalm:

[user104658]

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Driving miss hazy caught in yet another lie

ANother example of govt. dinosaurs not knowing what Google Caching is, thinking that if you change a website it erases the original version. I mean... they thought they could alter the .gov site Covid guidelines and no one would be able to see the original version. Who on earth is their tech advisor? :think:

[user104658]

What have the people you have spoken to got to do with anything?

You claim not to give a damn yet have made 75 posts in this thread.

Marsh, the people Parmy has been going to cozy Pub lock-ins with DO NOT CARE that Dom went on a roadtrip, so that's that. OK? The normal folks of the UK have spoken.

[Marsh.]

Actually the eyesight story is plausible, look. . .https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200526/c4921b661b1e8aafe003cf017f430dc1.jpg

:joker::joker:

[Liam-]

ANother example of govt. dinosaurs not knowing what Google Caching is, thinking that if you change a website it erases the original version. I mean... they thought they could alter the .gov site Covid guidelines and no one would be able to see the original version. Who on earth is their tech advisor? :think:

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[Marsh.]

Marsh, the people Parmy has been going to cozy Pub lock-ins with DO NOT CARE that Dom went on a roadtrip, so that's that. OK? The normal folks of the UK have spoken.

:hehe:

[Liam-]

Exactly, how can we believe a word he’s said? He’s a liar. He also didn’t mention the day he “tested his eyesight” driving to Bernard Castle was also his wife’s birthday?

There were some crucial questions missed during the briefing, they could have nailed him if a lot of them didn’t just repeat everyone else’s questions

[The Slim Reaper]

The only mistake he made yesterday was repeatedly mentioning the weird eyesight thingy .. he should have just mentioned it once along with all the other symptoms he’d suffered.

I think that due to a mixture of nerves and mental exhaustion he referred to the ‘weird eyesight’ over and over again probably when he was trying to justify an action he’d taken .... “ I was exhausted , under great pressure , my eyesight was weird ..”

The eyesight thing is just an annoyance now as he made it clear that both him and his wife were concerned about going him driving all the way home took the after being very ill over the previous week or so .. and they took the decision to drive 30 minutes to ‘the’ castle simply to gauge if his driving was up to scratch .


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The problem was not the nonsensical explanation, it was that he kept repeating it?

You make him sound like mother teresa - due to a mix of nerves and mental exhaustion :joker:

He made it clear :joker:

As the brave warrior stepped forward, the sweat on his biceps glistening like stars in the night sky...

[The Slim Reaper]

Has the autism line been dropped in it's entirety now?

[Liam-]

Has the autism line been dropped in it's entirety now?

Nah, there are still the occasional Union Jack twitter accounts that are throwing g it about

[user104658]

Has the autism line been dropped in it's entirety now?

Apparently the source was "someone off twitter thought they heard it on LBC but didn't" and it was never officially claimed at all.

[The Slim Reaper]

Suddenly all the tories are using driving as an eye test. This is true Orwellian insanity.

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[AnnieK]

Suddenly all the tories are using driving as an eye test. This is true Orwellian insanity.

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Jesus....and these are the people running the country???? :facepalm:

[Marsh.]

Not 7 attempts. :skull:

[Samm]

lol

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[Niamh.]

lol

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That woman is such a disgusting piece of ****

[Beso]

Marsh, the people Parmy has been going to cozy Pub lock-ins with DO NOT CARE that Dom went on a roadtrip, so that's that. OK? The normal folks of the UK have spoken.

Actually it was my family members who are all staunch SNP..

[Beso]

What have the people you have spoken to got to do with anything?

You claim not to give a damn yet have made 75 posts in this thread.

You should see how busy I get when I care about something x

[Marsh.]

You should see how busy I get when I care about something x

Oh we don't have to worry about that happening x

[Liam-]

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Those loving, caring brexiteers that are so against harassment and threats strike again

[Cherie]

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Those loving, caring brexiteers that are so against harassment and threats strike again

just wow ...

[Liam-]

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[Liam-]

just wow ...

I mean, I’m not religious, but threatening a priest? There’s something that feels really sinister about that :laugh:

[Zizu]

Marsh, the people Parmy has been going to cozy Pub lock-ins with DO NOT CARE that Dom went on a roadtrip, so that's that. OK? The normal folks of the UK have spoken.



Oddly enough and I maybe repeating myself here ( apologies) but last night LBC radio said that there had been a distinct change in the moods of their callers over a four hour period - AFTER the Cummings statement

Before the event their callers were enraged yet AFTER his statement their moods had changed to just being very disappointed in his decision

Quite telling ..





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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Zizu]

I mean, I’m not religious, but threatening a priest? There’s something that feels really sinister about that :laugh:



Thank the lord he has god watching his back ..


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[The Slim Reaper]

Oddly enough and I maybe repeating myself here ( apologies) but last night LBC radio said that there had been a distinct change in the moods of their callers over a four hour period - AFTER the Cummings statement

Before the event their callers were enraged yet AFTER his statement their moods had changed to just being very disappointed in his decision

Quite telling ..





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You mean all the gallahads hammered the phone lines in support? Cummings is a man that has a bot army on twitter, so you think he couldn't get people to hammer phone lines?

[user104658]

Oddly enough and I maybe repeating myself here ( apologies) but last night LBC radio said that there had been a distinct change in the moods of their callers over a four hour period - AFTER the Cummings statement

Before the event their callers were enraged yet AFTER his statement their moods had changed to just being very disappointed in his decision

Quite telling ..





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Telling that LBC listeners are a rabble of gullible serfs? Yes but I already knew that :nono:. I want NEW information.

[user104658]

This thread just overtook the (new) main Covid thread. Lolz.

[Niamh.]

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[Tom4784]

The fact people are using his son to shield him from criticism is gross. He ****ed up and he isn't facing the consequences and the tories are bending over backwards to protect.

As long as you are a tory, tory supporters will let you get away with anything. They lack the ability to criticise because they are loyal like a lapdog to the party. Voters shouldn'tbe loyal to parties, parties should be loyal to voters

[Cherie]

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:joker::joker::joker:

[user104658]

The fact people are using his son to shield him from criticism is gross.

They're not even bothering with that any more, they've just moved on to claiming that it was fine :shrug:. You were always allowed to travel, and you were always allowed to go in the car to another area for exercise. The police never chased people on hills with drones. We imagined it. Or the police misunderstood or something.

[The Slim Reaper]

They're not even bothering with that any more, they've just moved on to claiming that it was fine :shrug:. You were always allowed to travel, and you were always allowed to go in the car to another area for exercise. The police never chased people on hills with drones. We imagined it. Or the police misunderstood or something.

Didn't they pour dye in a lake/pond somewhere to stop people going to a beauty spot? I mean, of course they didn't because none of that ever happened in our new bizarro world, but...

[Livia]

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[hijaxers]

Didn't they pour dye in a lake/pond somewhere to stop people going to a beauty spot? I mean, of course they didn't because none of that ever happened in our new bizarro world, but...

Yes they do it every year nowt to do with covid.

[The Slim Reaper]

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Both of those are a danger to a man with bad eyesight.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes they do it every year nowt to do with covid.

Cheers for the info. Why do they do it every year, do you know? Is it to protect mating season for protected species?

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Nicky91]

This thread just overtook the (new) main Covid thread. Lolz.

the chaos in this thread what Bojo brought upon us, with his wrong decision not to sack Dom :bored:

[user104658]

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The action itself is a molehill, I'll give you that. I don't actually care that Cummings went on his jollies. If they just said "Err... **** wups yes that wasn't a good decision" then whatever. Keep him on, it is what it is.

...the lying, denial that the rules that were broadcast repeatedly to the whole nation were ever the rules, the changing the websites so that the rules read differently... trying to change the past and tell people that they're imagining it? I don't think that's a molehill. That's some pretty serious misconduct.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Unless anyone has evidence to refute his account then all they are doing is showing a spiteful "I didn't get my own way in the election or referendum" side

And surely the good burgers of Tibb would never

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How dare his parents live 260 miles from London the selfish pigs

[Niamh.]

The action itself is a molehill, I'll give you that. I don't actually care that Cummings went on his jollies. If they just said "Err... **** wups yes that wasn't a good decision" then whatever. Keep him on, it is what it is.

...the lying, denial that the rules that were broadcast repeatedly to the whole nation were ever the rules, the changing the websites so that the rules read differently... trying to change the past and tell people that they're imagining it? I don't think that's a molehill. That's some pretty serious misconduct.

Doublethink?

[user104658]

Unless anyone has evidence to refute his account then all they are doing is showing a spiteful "I didn't get my own way in the election or referendum" side

And surely the good burgers of Tibb would never

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How dare his parents live 260 miles from London the selfish pigs

It doesn't matter if you believe his account or not, his account is against the rules. Travelling to visit family was against the rules. Driving 30 miles to another location for exercise was against the rules. They might be going back and trying to change them now, but most of us have memories longer than a couple of weeks.

Local walking spots and beaches around here had their car parks taped off by the police, because driving to them was against the rules. My wife hasn't been to see her grandparents who are not doing well at all right now and live 270-ish miles from us (along with her whole family) because it's against the rules.

The rules NOW are clear as mud but the original rules were perfectly clear and - going entirely on HIS own words - he broke them twice. Again I'd say whether or not you think that's a big deal is totally up to the individual... but the govt. fiddling things to go back and change the rules, and claim they never existed, is another matter.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It doesn't matter if you believe his account or not, his account is against the rules. Travelling to visit family was against the rules. Driving 30 miles to another location for exercise was against the rules. They might be going back and trying to change them now, but most of us have memories longer than a couple of weeks.

Local walking spots and beaches around here had their car parks taped off by the police, because driving to them was against the rules. My wife hasn't been to see her grandparents who are not doing well at all right now and live 270-ish miles from us (along with her whole family) because it's against the rules.

The rules NOW are clear as mud but the original rules were perfectly clear and - going entirely on HIS own words - he broke them twice. Again I'd say whether or not you think that's a big deal is totally up to the individual... but the govt. fiddling things to go back and change the rules, and claim they never existed, is another matter.


It's advice and within the advice is more than enough to ambiguity in to cover individual circumstances. The gen public have invented "rules".

It's nothing more than faux outrage to disguise political class spitefulness.

[Marsh.]

It's advice and within the advice is more than enough to ambiguity in to cover individual circumstances. The gen public have invented "rules".

It's nothing more than faux outrage to disguise political class spitefulness.

Nothing like completely changing your stance on the guidelines depending on the thread. Embarrassment.

[Marsh.]

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It's one thing Cummings making a mockery out of the most vulnerable in our society, but people continue to do so. Disgusting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nothing like completely changing your stance on the guidelines depending on the thread. Embarrassment.

Different circumstances different people, very loose guidelines to cover 67 milion individuals. It's easy.

[Marsh.]

Different circumstances different people, very loose guidelines to cover 67 milion individuals. It's easy.

Very specific guidelines.

But inventing things is easier than opening your eyes.

[user104658]

It's advice and within the advice is more than enough to ambiguity in to cover individual circumstances. The gen public have invented "rules".

It's nothing more than faux outrage to disguise political class spitefulness.

It wasn't "just advice" when the police were chasing hikers off the hills... how odd. You also seemed pretty clear on it here;

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366239

sacking offense

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She is coming from a city area to a small rural community, and her family, increasing infection risk there massively. It's beyond recklass

Deliberate and calculated flouting of the rules twice set by the Scottish government in order to save lives.
Is not a minor offence by the country s leading medical officer ffs


...had a rethink since then, have you?

[Marsh.]

Not a rethink, a "doesn't think at all".

[user104658]

Different circumstances different people, very loose guidelines to cover 67 milion individuals. It's easy.

They are almost identical circumstances.

[Nicky91]

Unless anyone has evidence to refute his account then all they are doing is showing a spiteful "I didn't get my own way in the election or referendum" side

And surely the good burgers of Tibb would never

Also

How dare his parents live 260 miles from London the selfish pigs

well it doesn't matter if he broke the rule once or twice

the point is he broke the rules, he also should've thought on his own like maybe i should not visit, when showing symptoms, for the safety of his elderly parents sake

he should've been sacked, and Boris failed to act properly (if Bojo had sacked him he would've gone up by a lot in my estimation also with all honesty)

[The Slim Reaper]

Something about burgers.

[The Slim Reaper]

Another tory campaigning for molehills!

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[user104658]

Another tory campaigning for molehills!

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YUK what a sketty little #PickMe simp.

[rusticgal]

It doesn't matter if you believe his account or not, his account is against the rules. Travelling to visit family was against the rules. Driving 30 miles to another location for exercise was against the rules. They might be going back and trying to change them now, but most of us have memories longer than a couple of weeks.
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He did not visit his family....he stayed on the grounds separate from his family and he went there as a precaution. This was not breaking the rules...it was against all advice but it wasn’t against the rules.
However his journey to another location was against the rules...on that basis he should resign because his excuse was not plausible.

[The Slim Reaper]

He did not visit his family....he stayed on the grounds separate from his family and he went there as a precaution. This was not breaking the rules...it was against all advice but it wasn’t against the rules.
However his journey to another location was against the rules...on that basis he should resign because his excuse was not plausible.

He drove 260 miles, not to visit his family, but stay in a cottage 50 meters away from them and his sister who was in another house on his parents estate. Is that what you're going with as not being against the rules when drivers were constantly being pulled over as they were on essential shopping trips?

[The Slim Reaper]

Marina Hyde

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/26/dominic-cummings-boris-johnson-terrified-sack-him

Perhaps on Sunday you watched the entire nation being lectured on what constitutes fatherly responsibility by Boris Johnson, a man who won’t even say how many children he has, and leaves women to bring up an unspecified number of them. Perhaps on Monday you watched the Guardian’s Rowena Mason being lectured in journalism by Johnson, a man sacked from a newspaper for fabricating quotes from his own godfather, and who blithely discussed helping a friend to have another journalist beaten up. Perhaps today, you heard Michael Gove tell LBC he has “on occasion” driven a car to check his eyesight.

If you did see these things, I can only direct you to the slogan flyposted all over Paris during the 1968 civil unrest. “DO NOT ADJUST YOUR MIND – THERE IS A FAULT WITH REALITY.” The term “gaslighting” is much overused, but let’s break the glass on it for the events of the past few days. As for “indefensible”… well, I don’t think that word means what you thought it meant.

Anyway. I see the latest science Dominic Cummings knows more about than you is optometry. Half an hour late on Monday afternoon – like he’s Mariah Carey and not some spad in inside-out pants – the Islington-dwelling humanities graduate took to Downing Street’s rose garden. There, he delivered the most preposterous address to a nation since Tiger Woods stood in front of an audience, including his mother, and apologised to his wife and sponsors. The difference is that Woods had a problem with cocktail waitresses, while Cummings ****s entire public health messages in the middle of a deadly pandemic. Also, he’s not remotely sorry.

By now, you may be dimly aware that his wife showing coronavirus symptoms saw Cummings first return to Downing Street, then embark on what we might call an Odyssean project: a heroic 260-mile quest all the way to County Durham, breaking the spirit and letter of lockdown rules he helped to write. I guess he just wanted to be a rule-maker, not a rule-taker. Then, he explained, he embarked on a 60-mile round trip to Barnard Castle, with his child in the car, to see if his eyes were so banjaxed that it was unsafe for him to drive. Which is … but no. I’m sorry, I just can’t with that one. Maybe later. Hopefully he’s at least nuked his car insurance premium.

Apologies for having to get tough with a guy who has always cultivated an image of himself as the Roy Keane of Westminster, even if that is like being the Clint Eastwood of the DVLA. But if Cummings and his wife didn’t know what they’d done was wrong, why would they choose to write a lengthy article last month about their virus experience – full of personal family information – which omitted all of these dramas, all of these material facts. Or as Cummings addressed these questions of what is unredeemable in the rose garden: “I stress to people that they should not believe everything in the newspapers.” And I stress to people that by far the most inaccurate account of the period in question was in the Spectator, bylined Mary Wakefield and Dominic Cummings. As for his querulous domestic exceptionalism, you’d think they were the first parents ever to get properly ill in possession of children. Or child, in this case. God knows, it’s not much fun. But, dare millions of us say, it is kind of what you sign up for – a reality not lost on the ICU nurse couple I heard on the radio, explaining about both of them being hard hit by Covid-19, and having to isolate with their own three children without help.

Cummings’ university history tutor once described him as “something like a Robespierre”, “determined to bring down things that don’t work”. Eleven years after his revolution, Robespierre himself was deemed to be something that didn’t really work, and was “brought down”, to euphemise the business of being relieved of your head in front of an ecstatic mob. I must say I found the footage of Cummings being screamed at in his street on Sunday distinctly disturbing when set alongside his account of his family’s house having become a target for threats of violence. This is never right.

Part of what’s disturbing was the vignette of a Britain Cummings himself did much to foment: grimly polarised, reflexively aggressive and running with an undercurrent of menace. His crowning triumph – the successful campaign to leave the EU – was a masterclass of stoking and exploiting divisions, unpleasantly emotive half-truths or untruths, and evidently considered itself above the law. I wrote last year about the dangerous folly of whipping up people versus parliament narratives, and how quickly those who imagine themselves on the side of the people can suddenly be reclassified as an enemy politician. But even I would have thought it too neat, too written, for Cummings to find himself on the wrong end of his sorcery as quickly as he has been. The thing about playing to angry mobs is that eventually they get angry with you. They came for Robespierre in the end, too.

For all the draw of the Cummings character, though, the last few days are ultimately a terrible story about Johnson. “Wash your hands, wash your hands” the prime minister kept gibbering last night. He’s certainly washing his hands of it all. All populists secretly hate their people, and Johnson is no different. But that “secretly” is key. His decision to keep Cummings brings his contempt for those he is meant to serve into the open. He would rather endanger their lives by compromising a vital public health strategy.

But why? The thing about Johnson is that he desperately wanted to become prime minister, and he desperately wanted to have been prime minister. It’s just the bit in between he struggles with. With Othello, it was jealousy. Macbeth: ambition. Lear: pride. Johnson: career liar, hollowed out by narcissism, who not even his friends would joke was motivated by public service. I guess it’s the little things that trip you up, isn’t it?

Anyone who imagines his defence of Cummings is born of loyalty is unfamiliar with the concept “Boris Johnson”. This is actually a simple story: man with no ideas is too terrified to sack his ideas man. Or to put it in the complex intellectual terms it deserves, some street heckler once shouted at David Hasselhoff: “Oi! Hasselhoff! You’re nothing without your talking car!” Cummings is the talking car to Johnson’s Hasselhoff.

So here we are. Cummings stays, and only irresistible external events will make Johnson do the right thing. He is not himself capable. We have the highest death toll in Europe, we left the care homes to their fate, our test-and-trace blunders are an international embarrassment, and we didn’t even save our economy. Johnson takes daily runs, but appears only once or twice a week in a crisis to fail at leadership.

This is the utter smallness of the man, and the tragedy for everyone stuck being governed by him. Perhaps the greatest tragedy is the acceptance. It would be nice to think we’re not so beaten that we don’t expect better than what he’s given us. After all, lives literally depend on it.

• Marina Hyde is a Guardian columnist

[arista]

They are almost identical circumstances.


Rubbish.

[arista]

Marina Hyde she is not talking Facts.
Slim.

[user104658]

"Rubbish! False! Fake news!!"

You could at least TRY to form a counter-argument instead of just huffing "NO" from the corner

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[Beso]

The mcanns leave 4 kids alone until one of them is gone forever....adored by the media.


Tory advisor acts in childs best interested....hated by the media..


You have to laugh at how easy they can sway peoples opinions.

[The Slim Reaper]

Marina Hyde she is not talking Facts.
Slim.

Marina even makes special mention of folks like your goodself that bought into the people versus elites stuff. I just miss the arista of 3 days ago that treated the situation on it's merits, as you did with covid, rather than the reactionary one that lost his sanity when cummings was held to account.

[Oliver_W]

The mcanns leave 4 kids alone until one of them is gone forever....adored by the media.


Tory advisor acts in childs best interested....hated by the media..


You have to laugh at how easy they can sway peoples opinions.

The media, sure.

I don't know a single person who likes the McCanns and/or who thinks they're entirely innocent or blame-free.

[user104658]

The mcanns leave 4 kids alone until one of them is gone forever....adored by the media.

Adored by The Sun, most normal people condemn their actions.


Tory advisor acts in childs best interests...

Tory minister uses his child as an excuse to visit the countryside for a couple of Birthday parties.

[Liam-]

Marina even makes special mention of folks like your goodself that bought into the people versus elites stuff. I just miss the arista of 3 days ago that treated the situation on it's merits, as you did with covid, rather than the reactionary one that lost his sanity when cummings was held to account.

I miss when he called me wise and slick :(

[The Slim Reaper]

The mcanns leave 4 kids alone until one of them is gone forever....adored by the media.


Tory advisor acts in childs best interested....hated by the media..


You have to laugh at how easy they can sway peoples opinions.

Except go an ask the people what they think of the mccanns and their decision to leave their children alone, and you'll see how easy it hasn't been to sway the opinions of the public.

[The Slim Reaper]

I miss when he called me wise and slick :(

TBH that was always a stretch :smug:

[hijaxers]

Cheers for the info. Why do they do it every year, do you know? Is it to protect mating season for protected species?

No the water is toxic and they do it to stop idiots swimming in it and getting ill.

[user104658]

Marina even makes special mention of folks like your goodself that bought into the people versus elites stuff. I just miss the arista of 3 days ago that treated the situation on it's merits, as you did with covid, rather than the reactionary one that lost his sanity when cummings was held to account.

I once watched a little video about how the brain can't catch up quickly enough when someone's perception of reality suddenly clashes with undeniable information that conflicts with that reality and just goes *ping!*, like an elastic band that's been stretched out too far, into an incoherent and self-contradictory mess for a while until it can create a new framework to work off of. Fascinating stuff. It's got to be at play a lot here. There are people who seem to be genuinely arguing that driving around... in a car... is a good idea for an adhoc eye test. And that travelling 250 miles to visit family was never against the lockdown restrictions. From an anthropological standpoint, it's fascinating stuff.

[The Slim Reaper]

I once watched a little video about how the brain can't catch up quickly enough when someone's perception of reality suddenly clashes with undeniable information that conflicts with that reality and just goes *ping!*, like an elastic band that's been stretched out too far, into an incoherent and self-contradictory mess for a while until it can create a new framework to work off of. Fascinating stuff. It's got to be at play a lot here. There are people who seem to be genuinely arguing that driving around... in a car... is a good idea for an adhoc eye test. And that travelling 250 miles to visit family was never against the lockdown restrictions. From an anthropological standpoint, it's fascinating stuff.

There's definitely some interesting things going on from an evolutionary standpoint of how we deal with and stick to in groups versus outgroups. Arista accepted the evidence before his eyes on covid, but as soon as a member of the tribe was attacked, he went full on silverback in his defence, even though he was attacking the actual leader of the tribe for his inaction.

I'd love to read what historians write about this period in a couple of hundred years time going back to the referendum and attacks on experts.

[The Slim Reaper]

No the water is toxic and they do it to stop idiots swimming in it and getting ill.

Appreciate the reply, cheers.

[Marsh.]

Caroline Flack! The McCann's!

Has Hitler been mentioned yet? No?!

[hijaxers]

Caroline Flack! The McCann's!

Has Hitler been mentioned yet? No?!

Yeah reaching

[user104658]

Caroline Flack! The McCann's!

Hitler

X Factor: The Band :flutter:

[hijaxers]

Yougov poll is up for him resigning and Yougov poll puts Boris's popularity down ~ reason Lies dammed lies !!

[arista]

Yougov poll is up for him resigning and Yougov poll puts Boris's popularity down ~ reason Lies dammed lies !!

Its a blip
soon be gone

[The Slim Reaper]

52% of leave voters want him gone.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY8qcUZUcAAns4P?format=jpg&name=large

[Liam-]

All those pesky Brexit hating, Boris loathing leavers trying to ruin the government they voted for :fist:

[The Slim Reaper]

We all know that 52% is an unassailable majority.

[user104658]

52%? The people have SPOKEN, the government MUST follow the will of the people, something something democracy, something.

[The Slim Reaper]

Elites refusing the will of the people.

[Liam-]

Boris is undemocratic, I say we march the streets... at a reasonably safe distance

[bots]

the story is not going to go away.

[Zizu]

the story is not going to go away.



The media need to keep this story going until the schools open on the 1st June then they can swamp us with that story


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[Zizu]

52% of leave voters want him gone.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY8qcUZUcAAns4P?format=jpg&name=large



They didn’t understand what they were voting for ...

:)


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[Zizu]

Unless anyone has evidence to refute his account then all they are doing is showing a spiteful "I didn't get my own way in the election or referendum" side

And surely the good burgers of Tibb would never

Also

How dare his parents live 260 miles from London the selfish pigs



... and how dare he have parents that own a farm and woodland


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[The Slim Reaper]

... and how dare he have parents that own a farm and woodland


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No one has an issue with his parents property portfolio because that's not the story.

[Beso]

Boris is undemocratic, I say we march the streets... at a reasonably safe distance

Go ahead, it's obviously worked in the past few years...lolololol

[Nicky91]

URGH :bored: the lack of logic here (no offense)

i don't care what function Cummings has, i don't think about this in a political way

i more am disgusted by him, him just more ignoring the risks a family visit can have these current times, especially his parents being elderly, therefore being among high risk group

what he has done for the Brexiteers well ok he has done good things, but here he just has been wrong, and if not sacked, then more demoted into lower role in the party and should've received a fine for breaking a rule


also hope everyone in here also avoids visiting elderly parents or other relatives


sorry but i just wanted to have this said

[Crimson Dynamo]

It wasn't "just advice" when the police were chasing hikers off the hills... how odd. You also seemed pretty clear on it here;

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366239








...had a rethink since then, have you?

You can't compare the 2 and to do so would be rather silly, even to make a futile point on Tibb

I'd rather hoped no one would but there you go

[Niamh.]

You can't compare the 2 and to do so would be rather silly, even to make a futile point on Tibb



I'd rather hoped no one would but there you go[emoji23]

[Beso]

Except go an ask the people what they think of the mccanns and their decision to leave their children alone, and you'll see how easy it hasn't been to sway the opinions of the public.

Fair enough, but the point about the media still stands.

[The Slim Reaper]

Fair enough, but the point about the media still stands.

The media is run by tories, apart from the guardian/observer, and the mirror.

[Beso]

The media is run by tories, apart from the guardian/observer, and the mirror.

Come come that's barney castle....

They were licking tony blairs arse for years.

[The Slim Reaper]

Come come that's barney castle....

They were licking tony blairs arse for years.

Why do you think that was? Blair was a tory lite. The conservatives had become so toxic at that point, that labor were inevitably going to win. Why do you think the sun were straight on board the Blair train? He screwed over working people, kept taxes low for the wealthy, and got involved in illegal wars. That's the Murdoch full house. Don't believe me? Watch fox news for an hour, and Murdoch is dripping through that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The media is run by tories, apart from the guardian/observer, and the mirror.

Newspaper s aren't the media

They are newspapers and a small part of the media

[The Slim Reaper]

[emoji23]

That's a rather silly reply Niamh :smug:

[The Slim Reaper]

Newspaper s aren't the media

They are newspapers and a small part of the media

What are you classing as the media then? Where are the left wing media giants pushing this nonsense story against the dom?

[Crimson Dynamo]

What are you classing as the media then? Where are the left wing media giants pushing this nonsense story against the dom?

You are being trolled by the left wing media for looks and likes

They know uare triggered by him and they feed your hunger

[The Slim Reaper]

You are being trolled by the left wing media for looks and likes

They know uare triggered by him and they feed your hunger

No specifics then?

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[hijaxers]

Yeah well comedy can live off Dom for donks cos he's so laughable ! and they prob will, and deservedly so.

[Zizu]

Yeah well comedy can live off Dom for donks cos he's so laughable ! and they prob will, and deservedly so.



I find him strangely intriguing.. I think he’s maybe a misunderstood genius


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[Beso]

Why do you think that was? Blair was a tory lite. The conservatives had become so toxic at that point, that labor were inevitably going to win. Why do you think the sun were straight on board the Blair train? He screwed over working people, kept taxes low for the wealthy, and got involved in illegal wars. That's the Murdoch full house. Don't believe me? Watch fox news for an hour, and Murdoch is dripping through that.

that just reads to me that the press latch onto anything that benefits sales..therefore you cant simply class the press as a tory press..it may be at this time, but when the next best thing in red comes along they will be straight on board.

[Marsh.]

You can't compare the 2 and to do so would be rather silly, even to make a futile point on Tibb

I'd rather hoped no one would but there you go

Coming from the guy who tried to compare the story to Caroline Flack's suicide?

Erm. No.

[Liam-]

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Matt Hancock told a porky? :omgno:

[Marsh.]

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Matt Hancock told a porky? :omgno:

They're not government advisors, for whom it is of the utmost importance to get the wife out of the house for her birthday whilst dumping the kid on family. :nono:

You know, **** the people who couldn't be by the side of their dying relatives. :umm2:

[Tom4784]

"Rubbish! False! Fake news!!"

You could at least TRY to form a counter-argument instead of just huffing "NO" from the corner

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You expect too much from people who defy all logic to stick to their party lines.

Boris Christ has defended him so these people will defend Cummings to the death because they see any failing of the government as a failing on their part and their egos can't take it so they'll deny, ignore, lie and gaslight to hide the truth.

Everyone should be outraged about this regardless of political persuasion. People have died alone, their families denied closure because of this virus, people in charge who flout the rules should be dragged over the coals. I'm tired of hypocrites with a shifting sense of morality when it comes to their political agendas.

[hijaxers]

You expect too much from people who defy all logic to stick to their party lines.

Boris Christ has defended him so these people will defend Cummings to the death because they see any failing of the government as a failing on their part and their egos can't take it so they'll deny, ignore, lie and gaslight to hide the truth.

Everyone should be outraged about this regardless of political persuasion. People have died alone, their families denied closure because of this virus, people in charge who flout the rules should be dragged over the coals. I'm tired of hypocrites with a shifting sense of morality when it comes to their political agendas.

I think the majority are outraged by everything thats happened but big boots are walking over our heads and lying their arses off and geting away with it !

[Liam-]

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Oof

[Beso]

You expect too much from people who defy all logic to stick to their party lines.

Boris Christ has defended him so these people will defend Cummings to the death because they see any failing of the government as a failing on their part and their egos can't take it so they'll deny, ignore, lie and gaslight to hide the truth.

Everyone should be outraged about this regardless of political persuasion. People have died alone, their families denied closure because of this virus, people in charge who flout the rules should be dragged over the coals. I'm tired of hypocrites with a shifting sense of morality when it comes to their political agendas.




This is a new government that was instantly walloped in the face with corona...how the hell can you begin to judge them under these circumstances :joker:


That's daft.:nono:

[user104658]

1265385466079195136

Oof

They've been slammed pretty hard, and in tandem with Corby going, if this year or next was an election year they'd be in trouble which hasn't been the case for over a decade... so that's quite an impressive nosedive to take for one "aide".

Sadly there isn't an election due any time soon and this will be ancient history by the time there's another GE.

[Marsh.]

This is a new government that was instantly walloped in the face with corona...how the hell can you begin to judge them under these circumstances :joker:


That's daft.:nono:

How can we judge them for breaking their own lockdown guidance to protect the NHS and the most vulnerable to go on a jaunt to visit family for a birthday trip when other people are dying alone and having unattended funerals right across the country in the name of protecting each other?

Are you actually asking that as a serious question alongside a joker smiley?

[Zizu]

How can we judge them for breaking their own lockdown guidance to protect the NHS and the most vulnerable to go on a jaunt to visit family for a birthday trip when other people are dying alone and having unattended funerals right across the country in the name of protecting each other?



Are you actually asking that as a serious question alongside a joker smiley?



I’m amazed that your reply to his post should be taken seriously tbh


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[Zizu]

This is a new government that was instantly walloped in the face with corona...how the hell can you begin to judge them under these circumstances :joker:





That's daft.:nono:



What an excellent, excellent post !!


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[Liam-]

Stop judging the government on their actions guys!

[Zizu]

Just watching Sky’s Press Review where there is an absolute imbecile on ranting away about Cummings !!

James Meadway ... what an absolute bell***..

I don’t know why Sky give these people airtime as they just can’t give reasonable views on anything


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[Marsh.]

I’m amazed that your reply to his post should be taken seriously tbh


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And I'm the opposite of amazed that you've, yet again, responded with another of your stock, empty, vapid replies to a post simply because it was a post I made.

Try actually adding to the discussion and sticking to its topic. Your silly point scoring couldn't be more boring.

[user104658]

I'm amazed at how amazed everyone is (and also that anyone believes the eye test story). We're all amazed!

[Marsh.]

:amazed:

[smudgie]

I am just amazed he is still there.
Sack him, with no pension.

[Zizu]

I'm amazed at how amazed everyone is (and also that anyone believes the eye test story). We're all amazed!



Hand on heart do you really believe he drove the family 30 minutes to TEST his eyesight ?

I heard him say that both him and his wife had reservations as to wether he had recovered enough to attempt the long drive home .. after being very poorly for the previous week or so ... he also referred to his eyesight being ‘weird’ as a filler to help justify how ill he’d been ..


Now there’s a whole ridiculous media frenzy suggesting he made the ‘test drive’ SOLELY to check his eyesight was ok


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[Zizu]

And I'm the opposite of amazed that you've, yet again, responded with another of your stock, empty, vapid replies to a post simply because it was a post I made.



Try actually adding to the discussion and sticking to its topic. Your silly point scoring couldn't be more boring.



Oddly enough everyone knows that it’s usually me criticising you for doing that very same thing :)




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[Marsh.]

Oddly enough everyone knows that it’s usually me criticising you for doing that very same thing :)




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Stock, empty, vapid.

[The Slim Reaper]

Hand on heart do you really believe he drove the family 30 minutes to TEST his eyesight ?

I heard him say that both him and his wife had reservations as to wether he had recovered enough to attempt the long drive home .. after being very poorly for the previous week or so ... he also referred to his eyesight being ‘weird’ as a filler to help justify how ill he’d been ..


Now there’s a whole ridiculous media frenzy suggesting he made the ‘test drive’ SOLELY to check his eyesight was ok


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Not sure how telling another lie (that you think you're the only one that realises) makes this whole issue any better for him.

[Zizu]

Not sure how telling another lie (that you think you're the only one that realises) makes this whole issue any better for him.



He never said that he took his family on that 30 minute drive to TEST his eyesight like everyone is suggesting though .

Here’s an excerpt from his statement


Let’s get some facts down here !!

::


“She didn't want to risk a nearly 300-mile drive with our child, given how ill I had been. We agreed that we should go for a short drive to see if I could drive safely. We drove for roughly half an hour and ended up on the outskirts of Barnard Castle town. We did not visit the castle. We did not walk around the town. We parked by a river. My wife and I discussed the situation. We agreed that I could drive safely, we should turn around, go home. “


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[Beso]

But the head honcho government advisor isnt allowed to judge the severity of the situation he is dealt with..his government needs him..so as a strategist he obviously along with his wife ways up and thinks about all eventualitys regarding the drive back to work where as a key worker he is desperately needed.

McLaren and Ferrari would do the same for top gear testing their car and the capabilities of its driver for the show.

[Zizu]

Stock, empty, vapid.



Stock Aitken Waterman


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[user104658]

Hand on heart do you really believe he drove the family 30 minutes to TEST his eyesight ?

I heard him say that both him and his wife had reservations as to wether he had recovered enough to attempt the long drive home .. after being very poorly for the previous week or so ... he also referred to his eyesight being ‘weird’ as a filler to help justify how ill he’d been ..


Now there’s a whole ridiculous media frenzy suggesting he made the ‘test drive’ SOLELY to check his eyesight was ok


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Can you point me to the part of the lockdown info that says "Do not travel outwith your local area unless you need to test whether or not you're good to drive a longer distance"?

Also full disclosure, my main reason for hoping Cummings gone is not because of lockdown/covid stuff - it's because he's probably the most toxic and sinister entity in British politics for decades. Probably longer. He is a whispering snake and he has an influence over the current prime minister that is not even vaguely anything like normal. Everyone should want him gone, immediately, no matter their political allegiance, no matter what they think of his recent actions. Of course - for exactly the same reason - I know he's going nowhere, and the government response to this incident is clear proof of that.

[Marsh.]

It never ceases to make me crack up at a 30 minute journey continually being called a "short trip".

[user104658]

But the head honcho government advisor isnt allowed to judge the severity of the situation he is dealt with..his government needs him..so as a strategist he obviously along with his wife ways up and thinks about all eventualitys regarding the drive back to work where as a key worker he is desperately needed.


But he SHOULDN'T be so desperately needed. The fact that the prime minister, the supposed leader of the country, seemingly can't function without this chap is a HUGE problem.

[Beso]

But he SHOULDN'T be so desperately needed. The fact that the prime minister, the supposed leader of the country, seemingly can't function without this chap is a HUGE problem.

If you believe Twitter and **** like that, then yes..I would.probanly think that way as well.

[Marsh.]

If you believe Twitter and **** like that, then yes..I would.probanly think that way as well.

As opposed to you believing... his completely contradictory and nonsensical statements?

[user104658]

If you believe Twitter and **** like that, then yes..I would.probanly think that way as well.

I've known about Dominic Cummings since before Brexit, I'm not basing my opinions of him on Twitter, or anything that's happened in the last week.

[Samm]

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Oof

Wow biggest slump since brown :shocked:

[Zizu]

It never ceases to make me crack up at a 30 minute journey continually being called a "short trip".



Well it is a short trip compared to the one from London to Durham.. surely ?


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[Beso]

I've known about Dominic Cummings since before Brexit, I'm not basing my opinions of him on Twitter, or anything that's happened in the last week.

Is he a family man? Cause on this matter that's where I would begin my judgement.

[Zizu]

Now this morning Starmer was calling for Cummings’s head ..

Now apparently there was a political commentator on today’s Good morning Britain say that 4 labour MPs had broken the lock down and none had been punished by him.
Is this the case?

Does anyone know ??


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[Zizu]

Is he a family man? Cause on this matter that's where I would begin my judgement.



Exactly


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[Marsh.]

Well it is a short trip compared to the one from London to Durham.. surely ?


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It's not as long as Route 66 either, doesn't make it a "short trip" to test your driving skills.

[Zizu]

Interesting...
Please excuse the cut and paste job

Last Labour took on a new line and a new, harsher, tone. Instead of asking questions, the leader of the opposition pivoted to demanding the scalp of Dominic Cummings. Pitch forks were sharpened. Attack videos were made. The witch hunt campaign began in earnest.

Whilst this more aggressive strategy, as Corbyn’s used to, collects likes and retweets in droves online, Starmer has now opened up a can of hypocrisy worms that he will not be able to put back with any ease.

It isn’t that long ago that Labour’s Stephen Kinnock drove hundreds of miles to see his elderly parents during lockdown or that one of Labour’s few remaining MPs in County Durham, Kevan Jones, attended a constituents’ birthday party. On both occasions, Keir Starmer of course did nothing.

This new approach smacks bad faith hyper partisanship – exactly the approach the new Labour Leader told the nation he would avoid. Truly gone is the brief window of constructive opposition.

Starmer’s statement yesterday highlighted the tragic cases of people across this country not able to be with their loved ones in their final moments, and of mourners unable to find the closure and shared consolation of funerals. Yet this was the same Keir Starmer who did nothing to reprimand Labour MP Tahir Ali who attended a funeral in his constituency as one of 100 mourners at the start of April. The point scoring partisan double standards over such sensitive matters leaves a truly bitter taste in the mouth.

The statement is even more brazen when you take into account that Dominic Cummings himself was among the many millions of people robbed of being with their loved ones in their final moments. Due to the lockdown Cummings was unable to visit his uncle, whom he was exceptionally close to, through his final days in hospital in London. At the time, Cummings was isolating in Durham.

What a contrast to those Labour MPs who darted about the country for reasons other than safeguarding children with particular needs.

Even viewed under the harshest lens, the case of Dominic Cummings is less than clear cut. MPs like Steve Baker who have called for Cummings to go have spoken about the “spirit” rather than the letter of the rules being broken. This far from the same category of those Labour MPs who actually broke lockdown.

Labour’s Health Secretary in Wales, Vaughn Gething, had a picnic with his family in a park at a time when the Welsh Government he sits in explicitly said “No picnics in the park.” There is no wriggle room there. Keir Starmer of course stayed silent.

Once the guillotine has been dragged out for one person, it rarely works out well for the initial operators.

Labour needs to recognise they can’t cheer on the cancel culture revolution for their political opponents, while ignoring the graver misdeeds of their own. Keir Starmer is opening a pandora’s box of persecution, and it will not discriminate by party. This can’t be one rule for Labour politicians, and another rule for everyone else.


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[Marsh.]

That's all well and good, if it was Labour and Labour only calling for Cummings to resign.

[Zizu]

There’s only 30 Tories mouthing off ( out of 365) ... the majority of those apparently hold grudges against Cummings ( he’s very unpopular) and they’re mostly unknowns anyways


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[Marsh.]

There’s only 30 Tories mouthing off ( out of 365) ... the majority of those apparently hold grudges against Cummings ( he’s very unpopular) and they’re mostly unknowns anyways


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If you want to make it about political point scoring maybe...

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[arista]

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You do not need a Minister
you have enough back benchers
and sad SNP fat fella.

[Zizu]

Why is everyone dismissing the fact that this apparently unforgivable ‘crime’ comes down to an obviously concerned couple simply doing their level best to protect their 4 yrs old child , whilst actually causing no harm to anyone !

Blimey I’d give them the benefit of the doubt if their explanation was based around them simply being worried that they MAY both get poorly but given we KNOW that that the mother was poorly at the start and the father actually got very , very poorly the whole witch-hunt seems grossly unfair .


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[Kizzy]

Why does he constantly have the expression of a stunned mullet?

[Beso]

:amazed:

Is this the adding to the debate you meant.:shrug:

[user104658]

Is he a family man? Cause on this matter that's where I would begin my judgement.He's a snivelling, egotistical political parasite. I have no idea what he's like at home. Maybe he's a great with his wife and kids as well? And that's lovely. He can **** off home and spend more time with them. They're not going to suffer for him losing his job, these are not people living hand to mouth, his parents have acres of land and "a spare cottage" and he has a personal fortune to boot... His family is set for life and he no longer has any decent or valid place in politics - in my opinion he never did.

If he's a family man then he can toddle off and be one full time.

[Kazanne]

Hand on heart do you really believe he drove the family 30 minutes to TEST his eyesight ?

I heard him say that both him and his wife had reservations as to wether he had recovered enough to attempt the long drive home .. after being very poorly for the previous week or so ... he also referred to his eyesight being ‘weird’ as a filler to help justify how ill he’d been ..


Now there’s a whole ridiculous media frenzy suggesting he made the ‘test drive’ SOLELY to check his eyesight was ok


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Whats new Zizu, the press always do this Chinese whispers thing, sensationalism sells to some, he obviously didnt travel there JUST to test his eyesight, but it sounds like a good stance to take so people can dig the knives in even further, its all so ridiculous now and not really worth debating about,as you can see people just don't like him so will lap all the crap up.

[Nicky91]

Whats new Zizu, the press always do this Chinese whispers thing, sensationalism sells to some, he obviously didnt travel there JUST to test his eyesight, but it sounds like a good stance to take so people can dig the knives in even further, its all so ridiculous now and not really worth debating about,as you can see people just don't like him so will lap all the crap up.

ah, the Cummings fans getting all in the ''victim role'' learning well from their master of lies, the rule breaker, Cummings The Crook

so predictable :bored:

[Kazanne]

ah, the Cummings fans getting all in the ''victim role'' learning well from their master of lies, the rule breaker, Cummings The Crook

so predictable :bored:

Ah nothing Nicky, I am no particular fan as I have already said, so get the facts right, When did I say I was a fan,just because I don't like the way the media are treating this doesnt mean I am a 'fan' of his as you call it.calling him names and saying silly things is childish imo.and tell me how is he a 'crook' ? so predicatable !!!

[Nicky91]

Ah nothing Nicky, I am no particular fan as I have already said, so get the facts right, When did I say I was a fan,just because I don't like the way the media are treating this doesnt mean I am a 'fan' as you call it.calling him names and saying silly things is childish imo.

:shrug: i also had said if Boris had sacked him, he would've gone way up in my estimation

if Boris had any balls he would've done that

if Dom had any balls he would admit he messed up for the sake of the reputation of his party too


facts are facts, he broke lockdown rules - NO Travel means NO Travel, and i don't give a **** if it was for his Eyesight or a family visit or whatever pathetic ''excuse'' he had

[Liam-]

Whats new Zizu, the press always do this Chinese whispers thing, sensationalism sells to some, he obviously didnt travel there JUST to test his eyesight, but it sounds like a good stance to take so people can dig the knives in even further, its all so ridiculous now and not really worth debating about,as you can see people just don't like him so will lap all the crap up.

So his excuse that he drove there to test his eye sight was a lie then? Good to know

[Liam-]

Ah nothing Nicky, I am no particular fan as I have already said, so get the facts right, When did I say I was a fan,just because I don't like the way the media are treating this doesnt mean I am a 'fan' of his as you call it.calling him names and saying silly things is childish imo.and tell me how is he a 'crook' ? so predicatable !!!

He was found guilty of electoral fraud for a start

[Kazanne]

:shrug: i also had said if Boris had sacked him, he would've gone way up in my estimation

if Boris had any balls he would've done that

if Dom had any balls he would admit he messed up for the sake of the reputation of his party too


facts are facts, he broke lockdown rules - NO Travel means NO Travel, and i don't give a **** if it was for his Eyesight or a family visit or whatever pathetic ''excuse'' he had

I don't really care what you think as your up and down like a yoyo,here is another story you can fume over.I bet its true aswell !
https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2020/05/26/police-called-to-a-partya-at-tory-mpa-s-house-a-reports/

[Kazanne]

He was found guilty of electoral fraud for a start

How so ?

[Kazanne]

So his excuse that he drove there to test his eye sight was a lie then? Good to know

Why do you always try twisting stuff,I did not say that at all ,I said it was probably NOT the ONLY reason,so please stop the sniping at my posts all the time,its pretty simple,no one has said what he did was right,but the media is rather over the top now I think that is my opinion,no one is saying he did or didn't do this and that,we have heard numerous times what happened and how people are pissed off ,I get it but am allowed to not like certain things I see and hear in the media as a whole,some being rather cruel and unnecessary imo, I know some people like to pull people apart ,it might make them feel that their opinion means something more,but for me what is done is done,we cannot change it,he might end up going he might not, but I am sure other things are happening that needs addressing, there is a police inquiry so let them do their job. I just dislike the press in any shape or form ,proven liars and hypocrites,so I think they need to back off people a bit.

[arista]

:shrug: i also had said if Boris had sacked him, he would've gone way up in my estimation

if Boris had any balls he would've done that

if Dom had any balls he would admit he messed up for the sake of the reputation of his party too


facts are facts, he broke lockdown rules - NO Travel means NO Travel, and i don't give a **** if it was for his Eyesight or a family visit or whatever pathetic ''excuse'' he had


He Will Not Sack Him

You Mob bunch
going to his house


The poor 4 year old

[The Slim Reaper]

For Arista :smug:

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[Livia]

It's ridiculous, isn't it. Was there a thread when a senior Labour politician attended a birthday party. No! Funny that. Maybe everyone missed it.

[Liam-]

Why do you always try twisting stuff,I did not say that at all ,I said it was probably NOT the ONLY reason,so please stop the sniping at my posts all the time,its pretty simple,no one has said what he did was right,but the media is rather over the top now I think that is my opinion,no one is saying he did or didn't do this and that,we have heard numerous times what happened and how people are pissed off ,I get it but am allowed to not like certain things I see and hear in the media as a whole,some being rather cruel and unnecessary imo, I know some people like to pull people apart ,it might make them feel that their opinion means something more,but for me what is done is done,we cannot change it,he might end up going he might not, but I am sure other things are happening that needs addressing, there is a police inquiry so let them do their job. I just dislike the press in any shape or form ,proven liars and hypocrites,so I think they need to back off people a bit.

Dominic himself said the only reason he went there was to test his eyesight, so you saying that’s probably not the only reason is you admitting you think he’s lying, the media are intrusive and they do push to get their story, but that’s their job, there wouldn’t be a story and there wouldn’t be this intrusion if he hadn’t done what he did, you say you don’t like the media because they’re proven liars and hypocrites, yet you stand by a government that over the past week has proven that they are also probable liars and hypocrites, you think they should back off a bit because you don’t like them holding the people you voted for accountable

[arista]

He's a snivelling, egotistical political parasite. I have no idea what he's like at home. Maybe he's a great with his wife and kids as well? And that's lovely. He can **** off home and spend more time with them. They're not going to suffer for him losing his job, these are not people living hand to mouth, his parents have acres of land and "a spare cottage" and he has a personal fortune to boot... His family is set for life and he no longer has any decent or valid place in politics - in my opinion he never did.

If he's a family man then he can toddle off and be one full time.


Yes in a Good Job
helping the PM.
He is live a 4PM today

[The Slim Reaper]

It's ridiculous, isn't it. Was there a thread when a senior Labour politician attended a birthday party. No! Funny that. Maybe everyone missed it.

Did you create one, or did anyone stop you creating one?

[Liam-]

It's ridiculous, isn't it. Was there a thread when a senior Labour politician attended a birthday party. No! Funny that. Maybe everyone missed it.

All politicians and people in the vicinity should be punished if they broke the rules, like every common person was, however, the people who helped create the very clear rules at the start of lockdown should be held to a higher standard as they’re the ones who control what everyone is supposed to do

[user104658]

It's ridiculous, isn't it. Was there a thread when a senior Labour politician attended a birthday party. No! Funny that. Maybe everyone missed it.1) Labour are not in power, and did not set the lockdown rules, so its a false equivalency. You can't counter every criticism of the active government twith "Yeah but what about Labour". Labour are not the government.

1.1) But yes any politician who can't stick with the rules that they expect the public to follow should step down.

2) Cummings actively knew he was unwell(!!), he shouldn't even have been out of his home! That was a clear and explicit part of the policy even BEFORE lockdown!

3) at this point it's not even about him breaking the rules, it's about the blatant lies and attempts to excuse and cover it up. Just totally ridiculous. People this openly disingenuous and untrustworthy shouldn't be running a hobby club let alone a country. And I'm not just talking about Cummings. And yes if Labour are going to be hypocrites, I'm talking about them too. Bin the lot of them.

[user104658]

Yes in a Good Job

helping the PM.

He is live a 4PM todayAre you trying to troll me arista? :joker: have I tickled the big green pickle? It doesn't suit you, but I respect the attempt.

[arista]

Are you trying to troll me arista? :joker: have I tickled the big green pickle? It doesn't suit you, but I respect the attempt.

No need to Troll you

You stand up - on your own feet.

[arista]

For Arista :smug:

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Not to the Grand Parents home

Fake Bloody Front Pages

[Kazanne]

Dominic himself said the only reason he went there was to test his eyesight, so you saying that’s probably not the only reason is you admitting you think he’s lying, the media are intrusive and they do push to get their story, but that’s their job, there wouldn’t be a story and there wouldn’t be this intrusion if he hadn’t done what he did, you say you don’t like the media because they’re proven liars and hypocrites, yet you stand by a government that over the past week has proven that they are also probable liars and hypocrites, you think they should back off a bit because you don’t like them holding the people you voted for accountable

That is YOUR opinon on the government,not mine,I don't think everything they do is right,but what do I know really about the ins and outs of what they have to do and decide on, it was pointed out earlier that DC eye test thing has been jumped on by the media as his sole intention for his drive to the castle when other things were an issue too,but no lets just all take the piss about the eye test, I don't agree with him doing that but that doesn't mean I want to see paps constantly on his back with a camera and jostling for thier exclusive at any price,do they ever learn,so my gripe is not so much to do with him per-se its to do with the press handling of people.

[Kazanne]

All politicians and people in the vicinity should be punished if they broke the rules, like every common person was, however, the people who helped create the very clear rules at the start of lockdown should be held to a higher standard as they’re the ones who control what everyone is supposed to do

I don't think everyone was punished were they? there were far too many of them and way before the DC issue.:shrug:

[Liam-]

That is YOUR opinon on the government,not mine,I don't think everything they do is right,but what do I know really about the ins and outs of what they have to do and decide on, it was pointed out earlier that DC eye test thing has been jumped on by the media as his sole intention for his drive to the castle when other things were an issue too,but no lets just all take the piss about the eye test, I don't agree with him doing that but that doesn't mean I want to see paps constantly on his back with a camera and jostling for thier exclusive at any price,do they ever learn,so my gripe is not so much to do with him per-se its to do with the press handling of people.

It’s not an opinion that they’ve had ministers come out over the past couple of days and they’ve lied to the public, that is an easily proven fact, he said himself that he wanted to do the drive to castle because his eyesight felt off and we wanted to see if he could drive, that’s not being misreported, being are discussing the very words that came out of his mouth, it’s not everyone else’s fault that he spouts utter drivel

[Liam-]

I don't think everyone was punished were they? there were far too many of them and way before the DC issue.:shrug:

I meant they should be punished like everyone else that was punished, not that everyone was punished

[Kazanne]

I meant they should be punished like everyone else that was punished, not that everyone was punished

Ah ok.

[Marsh.]

Is this the adding to the debate you meant.:shrug:

Yes.

[Marsh.]

It's ridiculous, isn't it. Was there a thread when a senior Labour politician attended a birthday party. No! Funny that. Maybe everyone missed it.

Are you going to make a post that doesn't contain the words Labour or Corbyn? No! Funny that.

[Marsh.]

Why is everyone dismissing the fact that this apparently unforgivable ‘crime’ comes down to an obviously concerned couple simply doing their level best to protect their 4 yrs old child , whilst actually causing no harm to anyone !

Blimey I’d give them the benefit of the doubt if their explanation was based around them simply being worried that they MAY both get poorly but given we KNOW that that the mother was poorly at the start and the father actually got very , very poorly the whole witch-hunt seems grossly unfair .


Nothing grossly unfair at all. The fact they were unwell makes it worse and the lying and complete contempt he's shown for the public in the aftermath is disgusting and a complete **** you to all the people who died alone, the people who couldn't attend loved ones funerals and the people who have spent lockdown completely alone with no contact with family and friends.

People trying to gloss over this are as disgusting as he is.

[user104658]

No need to Troll you



You stand up - on your own feet.You were trying to troll me arista but it's OK - we're used to you getting special consideration on here for whatever reason.

[Jack_]

It’s hilarious to me that for years people talked of “the cult of Corbyn”, and now without any self-awareness, and with the second highest death toll on earth, I’m seeing any criticism of the government met with “now’s not the time for politics”, “go Boris”, “they’re trying their best” etc all over the internet

That IS a ****ing cult, and they’re in power which makes it even more disturbing. Blind loyalty to a government is especially embarrassing

Boot lickers the lot :yuk:

[arista]

It’s hilarious to me that for years people talked of “the cult of Corbyn”, and now without any self-awareness, and with the second highest death toll on earth, I’m seeing any criticism of the government met with “now’s not the time for politics”, “go Boris”, “they’re trying their best” etc all over the internet

That IS a ****ing cult, and they’re in power which makes it even more disturbing. Blind loyalty to a government is especially embarrassing

Boot lickers the lot :yuk:



How Very Nice
of you to post
Jack.

Yes the Death Toll is because
we failed to lockdown 10 days before we did.


Tally Ho at the Horse Racing and all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

1) Labour are not in power, and did not set the lockdown rules, so its a false equivalency. You can't counter every criticism of the active government twith "Yeah but what about Labour". Labour are not the government.

1.1) But yes any politician who can't stick with the rules that they expect the public to follow should step down.

2) Cummings actively knew he was unwell(!!), he shouldn't even have been out of his home! That was a clear and explicit part of the policy even BEFORE lockdown!

3) at this point it's not even about him breaking the rules, it's about the blatant lies and attempts to excuse and cover it up. Just totally ridiculous. People this openly disingenuous and untrustworthy shouldn't be running a hobby club let alone a country. And I'm not just talking about Cummings. And yes if Labour are going to be hypocrites, I'm talking about them too. Bin the lot of them.

Your arrogance that you know he is lying when you have no clue is staggering

If you have evidence he lied prove it, if not stop lying to us and yourself

[Crimson Dynamo]

How Very Nice
of you to post
Jack.

Yes the Death Toll is because
we failed to lockdown 10 days before we did.


Tally Ho at the Horse Racing and all.

No our death toll is due to obesity and diabetes

poor health

We are a fat unhealthy nation and Covid showed that to the world

[arista]

No our death toll is due to obesity and diabetes

poor health

We are a fat unhealthy nation and Covid showed that to the world


Sure LT
Good Valid Point's.

But as well we needed to Lockdown 10 days before we did

That will be proven
in the Enquiry, some years later from now

[bots]

lets see where the death tolls are across the world this time next year and then compare them on a like for like basis rather than the stupid league table that has been posted every day and is totally misleading

[arista]

lets see where the death tolls are across the world this time next year and then compare them on a like for like basis rather than the stupid league table that has been posted every day and is totally misleading


Sure But China is keeping their own real total
secret.

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

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Tweets without comment are pretty useless, what did she do/say?

[The Slim Reaper]

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She told the truth, that's the job of a journalist. She gave the tories right to reply and they didn't send anyone.

[The Slim Reaper]

Tweets without comment are pretty useless, what did she do/say?

She said cummings had lied.

[arista]

Tweets without comment are pretty useless, what did she do/say?

Click Darren
he has posted a video
one post down

[arista]

She told the truth, that's the job of a journalist. She gave the tories right to reply and they didn't send anyone.


No she broke BBC guidelines

[The Slim Reaper]

No she broke BBC guidelines

Whih ones?

[arista]

Which ones?

Could you click Darren
2 post down - he explains it.

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[bots]

she didn't break any guidelines Arista, you are clutching at straws. If you don't like what someone says don't read or listen to it.

[user104658]

Fffff not that little Darren Grimes tit again, I nearly had a brain hemorrhage reading his guff yesterday. He's set up this "Think don't follow" thing with the premise that everyone should think for themselves rather than follow the crowd - then you keep reading/listening for a bit and it becomes abudantly clear that his version of being "a free thinking individual" is being a 100% cookie-cutter Tory :joker:. "If you're a Tory, support the Tories, and think/believe literally everything that every other Tory does... then you're a proppa individual" he dribbles through his little bumfluff moustache.

Insufferable.

[arista]

WqFh6PKD6DI


for Slim

[arista]

"Fffff not that little Darren Grimes tit again"

Yes Please
Click the Educational Video

[arista]

"Fffff not that little Darren Grimes tit again"

Yes Please
Click the Educational Video

[Liam-]

Darren Grimes is only educational if you need to know what a self loathing twink looks like

[Marsh.]

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for Slim

"Dominic Cummings broke lockdown guidelines" is not a left-leaning opinion, it's a statement of fact. Idiotic video.

[arista]

she didn't break any guidelines Arista, you are clutching at straws. If you don't like what someone says don't read or listen to it.

You keep getting so MUCH wrong

[We believe the introduction we broadcast did not meet our standards of due impartiality]


The BBC say she did
Newsnight 'breached BBC impartiality guidelines' with Cummings remarks


[The BBC has said an introduction about Dominic Cummings on Tuesday's Newsnight did not meet the required standards of due impartiality.
The programme began with presenter Emily Maitlis saying "the country can see" Cummings had "broken the rules".
It should have made clear the remarks were "a summary of the questions we would examine" about the prime minister's aide, the corporation said.
The BBC said the news programme's staff had been reminded about its guidelines.
At the beginning of the BBC Two programme, Maitlis said the country was "shocked" that the government could not see that Boris Johnson's aide had broken the rules by travelling from London to County Durham during the coronavirus lockdown.]



FACT

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52824508

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[bots]

You keep getting so MUCH wrong

[We believe the introduction we broadcast did not meet our standards of due impartiality]


The BBC say she did
Newsnight 'breached BBC impartiality guidelines' with Cummings remarks


[The BBC has said an introduction about Dominic Cummings on Tuesday's Newsnight did not meet the required standards of due impartiality.
The programme began with presenter Emily Maitlis saying "the country can see" Cummings had "broken the rules".
It should have made clear the remarks were "a summary of the questions we would examine" about the prime minister's aide, the corporation said.
The BBC said the news programme's staff had been reminded about its guidelines.
At the beginning of the BBC Two programme, Maitlis said the country was "shocked" that the government could not see that Boris Johnson's aide had broken the rules by travelling from London to County Durham during the coronavirus lockdown.]



FACT

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52824508

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/1696/production/_112528750_maitlis_976.jpg


they didn't break any guidelines, they just decided that it would be the easiest option to say that ..... thats a FACT

[arista]

they didn't break any guidelines, they just decided that it would be the easiest option to say that ..... thats a FACT


You are a Bad Loser

Its even Front Page.
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She the BBC Presenter Broke Guidelines
FACT


If I was posting stupid remarks like you about another poster
and was terribly wrong
I would at least say Sorry.

[Liam-]

Arista you are routinely rude to people you disagree with, don’t throw stones

[arista]

Arista you are routinely rude to people you disagree with, don’t throw stones

I am not
I am being Honest.

[Kazanne]

I am not
I am being Honest.

I dont think your rude,I've seen much worse on here, we need both sides of a story

[Marsh.]

:joker:

[Liam-]

Both sides of a story =/= calling people stupid and pathetic

[Marsh.]

Both sides of a story =/= calling people stupid and pathetic

Oh but if someone says they don't think something is true, it means it isn't.