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Samm
22-05-2020, 09:35 PM
Dominic Cummings travelled hundreds of miles from London to County Durham during the lockdown when he had virus symptoms, the BBC has been told.
A source close to the PM's chief aide confirmed reports he and his wife went to his parents' home to self-isolate.

But the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg said she had been told Mr Cummings did not break government guidance because he and his wife stayed in a separate building.
The story was first reported by the Mirror and Guardian newspapers.
Labour said No 10 needed to provide a "very swift explanation" for Mr Cummings' actions.

"If accurate, the prime minister's chief adviser appears to have breached the lockdown rules. The government's guidance was very clear: stay at home and no non-essential travel," a spokesman said.
"The British people do not expect there to be one rule for them and another rule for Dominic Cummings."

The Scottish National Party's Westminster leader Ian Blackford said Mr Cummings should resign or be dismissed by Boris Johnson.
"This is a key test of leadership for Boris Johnson. People must have confidence that the Tory government is following its own rules - not being investigated by the police for breaking them," he said.

And Ed Davey, acting leader of the Liberal Democrats, added: "If Dominic Cummings has broken the guidelines he will have to resign, it is as simple as that."
The Mirror and the Guardian reported Mr Cummings, the former Vote Leave chief who was the architect of the PM's Brexit strategy, had been approached by the police.
BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52779356)

A resign immediately needs to take place.

Edited new developments:

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Mitchell
22-05-2020, 09:51 PM
Scum

Kizzy
22-05-2020, 10:21 PM
How did they manage to keep this quiet for so long? They'll downplay if now it's so long after the fact. Nothibg will happen to him you know how it is one rule for them and another for the plebs.

Liam-
22-05-2020, 10:25 PM
So dedicated to killing off pensioners he even tried to bump off his own folks

Babayaro.
22-05-2020, 10:30 PM
So dedicated to killing off pensioners he even tried to bump off his own folks

:skull:

caprimint
22-05-2020, 11:10 PM
Oh for **** sake

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

arista
23-05-2020, 12:40 AM
BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52779356)

A resign immediately needs to take place.

I doubt that

arista
23-05-2020, 12:41 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/153EE/production/_112422078_mirror.jpg

Scarlett.
23-05-2020, 12:42 AM
Probably wanted to test out his herd immunity plan on them.

Fire him.

arista
23-05-2020, 12:42 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/12CDE/production/_112422077_guardian.jpg

arista
23-05-2020, 12:43 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/27EE/production/_112422201_telegraph2.jpg

Greg!
23-05-2020, 12:47 AM
He has to go.

Makes me so angry. I haven't seen my grandparents for months but this guy thinks its ok to travel hundreds of miles to visit his elderly parents INDOORS WHILE HE HAD THE VIRUS. A joke.

Greg!
23-05-2020, 12:49 AM
His childcare excuse is laughable. If he and his wife were too ill to look after their kid at home how were they well enough to drive from London to Durham, a journey that takes hours??

Liam-
23-05-2020, 12:51 AM
lmao shut the ****ing **** up

Dom as he coughed on his mother?

hijaxers
23-05-2020, 05:37 AM
I think most of the counrty dislikes this man intensley ~ He has to go !

Bloody hypocrite.

bots
23-05-2020, 05:40 AM
he should resign, but i doubt he will

Cherie
23-05-2020, 07:29 AM
What difference does it make if they stayed in a different house? , what does he mean...like a holiday home or annex, travelling to another part of the country was not allowed and staying in a place that was not your main abode wasn’t allowed and still isn’t and the fact he had symptoms so took the virus with him as well I wonder if he stopped to fill up at a petrol station or to use the facilities or did he cross his legs for the duration


He needs to go

arista
23-05-2020, 07:34 AM
What difference does it make if they stayed in a different house? , what does he mean...like a holiday home or annex, travelling to another part of the country was not allowed and staying in a place that was not your main abode wasn’t allowed and still isn’t and the fact he had symptoms so took the virus with him as well I wonder if he stopped to fill up at a petrol station or to use the facilities or did he cross his legs for the duration


He needs to go

No he has said he is not going.
He did for his 4 year old kid to be safe
and he has not broken rules

Nothing wrong in getting your Child safe.

Cherie
23-05-2020, 07:59 AM
No he has said he is not going.
He did for his kid to be safe
and he has not broken rules

Nothing wrong in getting your Child safe.

His kids were safe in his home London..no? The rules are you live at your main address...

Nicky91
23-05-2020, 08:04 AM
dumb idiot that he is :facepalm:

arista
23-05-2020, 08:06 AM
His kids were safe in his home London..no? The rules are you live at your main address...


No They were ill
So you drop the 4 year old off to the Grand Parents


The very young boy trusts them.

How nasty are you Cherie?

Care for His Son - is all that matters

arista
23-05-2020, 08:14 AM
dumb idiot that he is :facepalm:

You do not know the Facts
with respect

MTVN
23-05-2020, 08:25 AM
A great scoop for the Guardian and Mirror, think this probably does make his position untenable but if there's anyone who could survive something like this it's Cummings

arista
23-05-2020, 08:29 AM
Of course
Labour are Fools on this
all Dom was doing was getting his kid safe.

And the SNP fat fella
lost his chance by being silly on BBC1AM

AnnieK
23-05-2020, 08:34 AM
His parents are in their 70s and therefore should have been shielding.....absolute disgrace. Selfish and irresponsible. Nothing will happen,he may resign publicly but he will probably continue quietly in a salaried "advisory" capacity until the furore dies down.

AnnieK
23-05-2020, 08:35 AM
Of course
Labour are Fools on this
all Dom was doing was getting his kid safe.

And the SNP fat fella
lost his chance by being silly on BBC1AM

And in doing that putting hoe many others at risk of the virus?

arista
23-05-2020, 08:41 AM
And in doing that putting hoe many others at risk of the virus?



No as he kept away from the Grand parents
no others were at risk.



This is Labour , SNP and LibDem
wasting time on TVnews today

Liam-
23-05-2020, 08:58 AM
The top government aide, who lets face it, essentially runs the country, breaking his own lockdown rules so flagrantly, is a massive slap in the face to all the people who’ve stuck by them for months, even the ones who’ve had the virus as well, this is the problem with these people, they expect us to all play our parts but they so obviously think they’re above the rules themselves, he won’t resign because he’s an arrogant pig, but I don’t think he’ll be fired either, they’ll bend as many rules as possible to back their own, one rule for us, one rule for them, disgrace

Cherie
23-05-2020, 09:01 AM
No They were ill
So you drop the 4 year old off to the Grand Parents


The very young boy trusts them.

How nasty are you Cherie?

Care for His Son - is all that matters

Excuse me? Why are you getting personal? did his kid not need a wee then on this trip to Durham, was his wife ill, who was driving and if they were so ill how could they possibly drive safely

Don’t speak to me again unless you can be civil

Oliver_W
23-05-2020, 09:11 AM
How bloody stupid can someone get? I wouldn't go anywhere near even my healthy relatives if I had symptoms. How is that clown in a palatable position to be even near government?

Nicky91
23-05-2020, 09:17 AM
How bloody stupid can someone get? I wouldn't go anywhere near even my healthy relatives if I had symptoms. How is that clown in a palatable position to be even near government?

+1

absolutely, top adviser to your PM has huge responsibilities, him breaking these rules, well this could make average british public thinking like ''if he doesn't obey the rules, why should i'' that last bit is more hypothetically speaking what could occur if someone in high position in government breaks corona rules

he never should've visited his elderly parents when he had symptoms, should've more used facetime or skype to contact them

Liam-
23-05-2020, 09:20 AM
How bloody stupid can someone get? I wouldn't go anywhere near even my healthy relatives if I had symptoms. How is that clown in a palatable position to be even near government?

Unfortunately, he’s good at his job, he gets the ‘right’ messages across to the ‘right’ people, he’s just an unimaginable twat that really has a massive contempt for the people of this country.

Funny really, he’s the ultimate unelected bureaucrat these days, when he was one of the main people delivering Brexit to get us away from all of those evil unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, it’s almost like they don’t really care if citizens are being ruled by people who didn’t earn their positions or not

arista
23-05-2020, 09:46 AM
Excuse me? Why are you getting personal? did his kid not need a wee then on this trip to Durham, was his wife ill, who was driving and if they were so ill how could they possibly drive safely

Don’t speak to me again unless you can be civil


No he would use a plastic bottle


They were ill
but able to Drive

AnnieK
23-05-2020, 09:49 AM
No as he kept away from the Grand parents
no others were at risk.



This is Labour , SNP and LibDem
wasting time on TVnews today

He had symptoms therefore the child could have been asymptomatic plus as Cherie said.....did they not need food, fuel or rest breaks on the way. Its irresponsible and selfish....you can spin it however you want Arista but you are wrong on this. The safest thing would have been to stay put as everyone else in the country was told too.

Beso
23-05-2020, 10:21 AM
I'm sure the grand parents will have agreed to this before he came, I very much doubt he just turned up.

Which imo, this should be a yard stick for all families to follow.

Samm
23-05-2020, 10:25 AM
I'm sure the grand parents will have agreed to this before he came, I very much doubt he just turned up.

Which imo, this should be a yard stick for all families to follow.

It doesn’t matter if they agreed? It’s the rules this government set up and he’s not abiding to them.

One rule for us, another for them.

Beso
23-05-2020, 10:26 AM
It doesn’t matter if they agreed? It’s the rules this government set up and he’s not abiding to them.

One rule for us, another for them.

Do you follow ALL the rules set out.

Jake.
23-05-2020, 10:27 AM
He had symptoms therefore the child could have been asymptomatic plus as Cherie said.....did they not need food, fuel or rest breaks on the way. Its irresponsible and selfish....you can spin it however you want Arista but you are wrong on this. The safest thing would have been to stay put as everyone else in the country was told too.

:clap1:

One rule for them, another for us.

I haven’t been round to my dads house and he’s 5 minutes down the road.

Beso
23-05-2020, 10:28 AM
The could have travelled through the night when the child was asleep..

bots
23-05-2020, 10:29 AM
it's up to everyone to make their voice heard and get shot of him

Jake.
23-05-2020, 10:30 AM
The could have travelled through the night when the child was asleep..

“Could have” / “maybe”

All irrelevant.

How done exactly the opposite of what the government laid out for us to do.

Beso
23-05-2020, 10:31 AM
“Could have” / “maybe”

All irrelevant.

How done exactly the opposite of what the government laid out for us to do.

I'm not disputing that, I just don't think what he did is that wrong.

The Slim Reaper
23-05-2020, 10:42 AM
it's Boris I feel sorry for; he's doing his best to hide away until the whole thing blows over and now he might actually have to appear in public and answer some questions.

Hopefully he''ll be able to ignore it and stay in the fridge, the brave little soldier.

Samm
23-05-2020, 10:57 AM
Do you follow ALL the rules set out.

Yes, I have. I haven't seen my parents for more then ten weeks, haven't been home since January. Nor have I interacted with anyone other than the people who I live with in my household.

Even if I didn't. I'm not a part of the government where any breakage of the rules should result in some sort of discipline to their position.

smudgie
23-05-2020, 11:04 AM
What an idiot.
He needs to go.
If they were fit enough to drive then they were fit enough to look after their child.
Silly to put his parents at risk like that.

Cherie
23-05-2020, 11:16 AM
From the gov.uk website


Stay alert

We can all help control the virus if we all stay alert. This means you must:

stay at home as much as possible
work from home if you can
limit contact with other people
keep your distance if you go out (2 metres apart where possible)
wash your hands regularly
Do not leave home if you or anyone in your household has symptoms.

Don’t see how anyone can defend this, maybe he got confused like half the population seem to be by simple messages

Liam-
23-05-2020, 11:20 AM
They just feel like they’re above everyone else so they don’t need to follow their own rules, they were never going to get rid of him, unlike the science advisor they forced to resign after he broke the rules, the fish rots from the top and this government is rotten

Brother Leon
23-05-2020, 11:21 AM
Bull**** response from the government. We all knew if you had symptoms then you need to isolate at home. There have been whole families sick at home and doing just that. Can you imagine if a footballer had done this?

The Slim Reaper
23-05-2020, 11:24 AM
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Liam-
23-05-2020, 11:26 AM
If he didn’t break the law, I wonder if all those people that were fined for doing similar things are going to get their money back?

Beso
23-05-2020, 11:29 AM
Yes, I have. I haven't seen my parents for more then ten weeks, haven't been home since January. Nor have I interacted with anyone other than the people who I live with in my household.

Even if I didn't. I'm not a part of the government where any breakage of the rules should result in some sort of discipline to their position.

Good for you for choosing to do that.

Cherie
23-05-2020, 12:20 PM
So according to the tweets coming out of Downing Street it was his wife who had symptoms and his sister and nieces offered to look after his child ...it just gets worse...self isolate at home with your infected wife and look after your own child like everyone else is asked to do

PMQs will be interesting next week if he isn’t gone before then

Liam-
23-05-2020, 12:22 PM
The story is ever changing because they’re trying to find the perfect scenario to try and take the heat off of him and it’s just not working, no matter how hard they try

bots
23-05-2020, 12:23 PM
So according to the tweets coming out of Downing Street it was his wife who had symptoms and his sister and nieces offered to look after his child ...it just gets worse...self isolate at home with your infected wife and look after your own child like everyone else is asked to do

PMQs will be interesting next week if he isn’t gone before then

its pretty obvious what the questions will be at todays briefing ... no hiding place there

Cherie
23-05-2020, 12:25 PM
its pretty obvious what the questions will be at todays briefing ... no hiding place there

Dominic Raab to face the music today? Boris on Weds I don’t think Starmer will let it go :laugh:

Kizzy
23-05-2020, 12:35 PM
No he better not either! Totally shocking behavior, all those families in London with 2nd homes or families in less affected areas.. they had to ride it out. Cummings isn't his usual gobby self on this is he? And he was part of SAGE , he knew better than anyone how serious this was!

arista
23-05-2020, 12:35 PM
So according to the tweets coming out of Downing Street it was his wife who had symptoms and his sister and nieces offered to look after his child ...it just gets worse...self isolate at home with your infected wife and look after your own child like everyone else is asked to do

PMQs will be interesting next week if he isn’t gone before then


Yes but
no change

arista
23-05-2020, 12:41 PM
No he better not either! Totally shocking behavior, all those families in London with 2nd homes or families in less affected areas.. they had to ride it out. Cummings isn't his usual gobby self on this is he? And he was part of SAGE , he knew better than anyone how serious this was!

Just a observer

arista
23-05-2020, 03:30 PM
Grant Shapps MP
Live at the Daily Briefing
says the 4 Year old child was a valid reason.

The Family, his sister was able to Deliver
food to them all
keeping their safe distance.

Cummings and wife stayed in an Annexe etc

Case Closed.

Liam-
23-05-2020, 03:35 PM
Tories closing ranks to protect one of their own against clear evidence the rules were violated by someone who helped set them, doesn’t mean the case is closed, it’s just showing them to be the classless, manipulative, hypocritical elitists they’ve always been, it’s an absolute disgrace

Cherie
23-05-2020, 03:37 PM
Every question :joker:

arista
23-05-2020, 03:38 PM
"it’s an absolute disgrace "


What making sure a 4 year old boy is
SAFE???????????????????????

You shock me Liam.

arista
23-05-2020, 03:38 PM
Every question :joker:


Yes Pathetic

Grant has answered it all


Cummings Drove
did not infect anyone.

Liam-
23-05-2020, 03:40 PM
"it’s an absolute disgrace "


What making sure a 4 year old boy is
SAFE???????????????????????

Well according to these very people, children are the most safe people on the face of the planet, so he wasn’t going to be in much danger, unless they’re lying about that now?

The rules to start with were very clear, if anyone had any symptoms they were to isolate in their homes and not leave to go anywhere else, he broke them, he should be punished like every other person who’s been punished for doing so has been

Liam-
23-05-2020, 03:46 PM
Cummings’ brother-in-law lives in London, if it was really a case of needing shopping delivered (It wasn’t) or someone to look after the kid (it wasn’t) then was literally zero need to travel like they did

Smithy
23-05-2020, 03:50 PM
God imagine if this was Diane Abbott, people would be demanding blood

arista
23-05-2020, 03:51 PM
Well according to these very people, children are the most safe people on the face of the planet, so he wasn’t going to be in much danger, unless they’re lying about that now?

The rules to start with were very clear, if anyone had any symptoms they were to isolate in their homes and not leave to go anywhere else, he broke them, he should be punished like every other person who’s been punished for doing so has been


No they "maybe"
but infact the little kids may also spread it.


Labour nothing better to do
Pathetic

Liam-
23-05-2020, 03:52 PM
No they "maybe"
but infact the little kids may also spread it.


Labour nothing better to do
Pathetic

Kids might spread it yes, so probably not the best idea to have a road trip nearly 300 miles away to hand the kid off to his elderly parents is it? Come on

arista
23-05-2020, 03:53 PM
God imagine if this was Diane Abbott, people would be demanding blood

Diane Who?

The Slim Reaper
23-05-2020, 03:53 PM
Cummings’ brother-in-law lives in London, if it was really a case of needing shopping delivered (It wasn’t) or someone to look after the kid (it wasn’t) then was literally zero need to travel like they did

To be fair, Dominics ma's birthday was only a couple of weeks after his visit...

Beso
23-05-2020, 03:53 PM
This bloke on BBC needs to shut up.

Liam-
23-05-2020, 03:54 PM
God imagine if this was Diane Abbott, people would be demanding blood

Hey come on now, we all know the real issue dragging our society down to a national disgrace is a black woman drinking a pre-made cocktail on the tube

Beso
23-05-2020, 03:55 PM
Kids might spread it yes, so probably not the best idea to have a road trip nearly 300 miles away to hand the kid off to his elderly parents is it? Come on

Maybe they demanded it..

arista
23-05-2020, 03:57 PM
Kids might spread it yes, so probably not the best idea to have a road trip nearly 300 miles away to hand the kid off to his elderly parents is it? Come on


You do not understand
The Grand Parents had an Annexe
that Cummings and Wife used, to get well in.

While the 4 Year old was safe next door.



He could have driven to Scotland
if he needed to.



He is Staying put


Labour are Pathetic
SNP are Pathetic
LibDems hardly any MP's

Liam-
23-05-2020, 03:57 PM
To be fair, Dominics ma's birthday was only a couple of weeks after his visit...

Aye, just a coincidence that the police had reports of a party in his parents garden around the time he and his wife had found refuge from death at their house, totally

Cherie
23-05-2020, 03:57 PM
Cummings should have been on the 3rd podium which was empty today

Beso
23-05-2020, 03:57 PM
God imagine if this was Diane Abbott, people would be demanding blood

Is this whatifery dezzy?

Beso
23-05-2020, 03:59 PM
You do not understand
The Grand Parents had an Annexe
that Cummings and Wife used, to get well in.

While the 4 Year old was safe next door.



He could have driven to Scotland
if he needed to.



He is Staying put


Labour are Pathetic
SNP are Pathetic
LibDems hardly any MP's




People just cant get past the fact that a mature tory advisor can have loving parents too.

arista
23-05-2020, 03:59 PM
This bloke on BBC needs to shut up.


Typical BBC


I prefer SkyNewsHD
but have them all on.


Parliament Channel 1979 Election
Spuds going up in price................

arista
23-05-2020, 04:00 PM
People just cant get past the fact that a mature tory advisor can have loving parents too.


Very True

Liam-
23-05-2020, 04:01 PM
You do not understand
The Grand Parents had an Annexe
that Cummings and Wife used, to get well in.

While the 4 Year old was safe next door.



He could have driven to Scotland
if he needed to.



He is Staying put


Labour are Pathetic
SNP are Pathetic
LibDems hardly any MP's

Right, Arista, him and his wife were both showing severe symptoms of the virus, so the chances are likely that their son also had contracted the virus and was able to pass it on, the elderly people were told by this government to self isolate from everyone and everything due to them being vulnerable, in what world is it okay for the top government aide who helped set the rules, to drive hundreds of miles (which wasn’t allowed) to live somewhere else (which wasn’t allowed) so that his sister and elderly parents could look after his child (which most certainly wasn’t allowed) he willingly put his parents in danger, he broke countless rules he had helped set for us common folk, us common folk would have gotten fined for doing the exact same thing, do you think politicians and government officials should be above the law?

Beso
23-05-2020, 04:01 PM
Typical BBC


I prefer SkyNewsHD
but have them all on.


Parliament Channel 1979 Election
Spuds going up in price................

Do these people get paid for appearing?

arista
23-05-2020, 04:02 PM
Cummings should have been on the 3rd podium which was empty today


No Need he was outside his home

Telling Stupid Reporters to keep 2mts distance

SkyNewsHD showing it.

The Slim Reaper
23-05-2020, 04:03 PM
Surprised at you, Arista. For weeks you rightly moaned about the government acting too slowly and now you're upset because they should be allowed to break their own rules.

Beso
23-05-2020, 04:03 PM
Right, Arista, him and his wife were both showing severe symptoms of the virus, so the chances are likely that their son also had contracted the virus and was able to pass it on, the elderly people were told by this government to self isolate from everyone and everything due to them being vulnerable, in what world is it okay for the top government aide who helped set the rules, to drive hundreds of miles (which wasn’t allowed) to live somewhere else (which wasn’t allowed) so that his sister and elderly parents could look after his child (which most certainly wasn’t allowed) he willingly put his parents in danger, he broke countless rules he had helped set for us common folk, us common folk would have gotten fined for doing the exact same thing, do you think politicians and government officials should be above the law?




Perhaps his parents wanted it to happen, so perhaps they were willing to take the risks of the son being left at home with them incase both parents died.

Beso
23-05-2020, 04:05 PM
She took unwell then he did the day after...what else could they do with their son?

Beso
23-05-2020, 04:06 PM
You can all put down your pitchforks cause I would like to believe you would all do the same in the same situation.

Liam-
23-05-2020, 04:08 PM
She took unwell then he did the day after...what else could they do with their son?

They could have stayed at home and looked after their own child in that situation like thousands of other parents had to under the lockdown conditions

arista
23-05-2020, 04:09 PM
Do these people get paid for appearing?


Only BBC reporters

Beso
23-05-2020, 04:18 PM
They could have stayed at home and looked after their own child in that situation like thousands of other parents had to under the lockdown conditions

No...you don't take the risk of mild symptoms, you instantly think of your child and do all you can while you can.

arista
23-05-2020, 04:21 PM
Right, Arista, him and his wife were both showing severe symptoms of the virus, so the chances are likely that their son also had contracted the virus and was able to pass it on, the elderly people were told by this government to self isolate from everyone and everything due to them being vulnerable, in what world is it okay for the top government aide who helped set the rules, to drive hundreds of miles (which wasn’t allowed) to live somewhere else (which wasn’t allowed) so that his sister and elderly parents could look after his child (which most certainly wasn’t allowed) he willingly put his parents in danger, he broke countless rules he had helped set for us common folk, us common folk would have gotten fined for doing the exact same thing, do you think politicians and government officials should be above the law?


We do not know that.

He did the best thing for his happy 4 year old lad.

Beso
23-05-2020, 04:23 PM
Liam wanting 2 parents with severe symptoms to stay at home and look after their children


A bit strange imo.

Liam-
23-05-2020, 04:25 PM
We do not know that.

He did the best thing for his happy 4 year old lad.

We do know that, his wife wrote an article about them both having severe symptoms, unless of course she was lying to cover themselves with a reason why they went to visit his elderly relatives during an international crisis.

The Slim Reaper
23-05-2020, 04:27 PM
Liam wanting 2 parents with severe symptoms to stay at home and look after their children


A bit strange imo.

If you have severe symptoms, then not sure how you could drive up the country, and if you could, how is constant coughing, struggling to breath, constant pressure on your chest a safe condition to drive in?

Liam-
23-05-2020, 04:29 PM
What I want is for everyone to be treated fairly and for the people ‘in charge’ to not treat us as play things for their amusement while they swan off and do whatever they want, directly contradicting everything they’ve put in place for everyone, they are not special, they are not above the law, if you can’t stick to the rules, you shouldn’t be setting the rules, simple as that

arista
23-05-2020, 04:33 PM
We do know that, his wife wrote an article about them both having severe symptoms, unless of course she was lying to cover themselves with a reason why they went to visit his elderly relatives during an international crisis.


Of course
but she could be wrong on the dates


Very Easy
to make date error

Liam-
23-05-2020, 04:35 PM
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arista
23-05-2020, 04:35 PM
What I want is for everyone to be treated fairly and for the people ‘in charge’ to not treat us as play things for their amusement while they swan off and do whatever they want, directly contradicting everything they’ve put in place for everyone, they are not special, they are not above the law, if you can’t stick to the rules, you shouldn’t be setting the rules, simple as that


He is an Adviser
never set any Rules.



This why he is keeping his Job.

Sod what Labour and SNP wish for........

Liam-
23-05-2020, 04:36 PM
Of course
but she could be wrong on the dates


Very Easy
to make date error

Ah, so now he’s excused because his wife ‘might’ have made an error, that is absurd come on

Liam-
23-05-2020, 04:37 PM
He is an Adviser
never set any Rules.



This why he is keeping his Job.

Sod what Labour and SNP wish for........

....

He advised on what rules to set, as in, he had a say in what rules were put into place, the rules he then went on to break most of

hijaxers
23-05-2020, 04:40 PM
Right, Arista, him and his wife were both showing severe symptoms of the virus, so the chances are likely that their son also had contracted the virus and was able to pass it on, the elderly people were told by this government to self isolate from everyone and everything due to them being vulnerable, in what world is it okay for the top government aide who helped set the rules, to drive hundreds of miles (which wasn’t allowed) to live somewhere else (which wasn’t allowed) so that his sister and elderly parents could look after his child (which most certainly wasn’t allowed) he willingly put his parents in danger, he broke countless rules he had helped set for us common folk, us common folk would have gotten fined for doing the exact same thing, do you think politicians and government officials should be above the law?

Yes what he did is indefensible and the whole county thinks so !

The Slim Reaper
23-05-2020, 04:42 PM
1264219198974296069

Cherie
23-05-2020, 04:44 PM
1264219198974296069

:joker::joker::joker:

hijaxers
23-05-2020, 04:50 PM
1264219198974296069

Yes Piers you are totally in the right on this one , get gone ********ings.

Toy Soldier
23-05-2020, 04:53 PM
I don't really care that he took his kid to stay with grandparents... What HAS confused me though, is that his wife wrote an article about rhwir Covid experience where she said explicitly that their son was at home with them and helped look after Dom at the peak of his illness when he couldn't even get out of bed, "playing doctor" and getting involved, so that it wouldn't be scary. :think: but apparently he wasn't there... Wh...

hijaxers
23-05-2020, 04:59 PM
I don't really care that he took his kid to stay with grandparents... What HAS confused me though, is that his wife wrote an article about rhwir Covid experience where she said explicitly that their son was at home with them and helped look after Dom at the peak of his illness when he couldn't even get out of bed, "playing doctor" and getting involved, so that it wouldn't be scary. :think: but apparently he wasn't there... Wh...

Ok so the the wifes a born liar then is it ? bunch of vipers

Crimson Dynamo
23-05-2020, 05:06 PM
just shows you after 3 top people flouted the "rules" that the "science" behind these "rules" and the "rules" themselves were bullsh*T

we have all been sold a pup

Beso
23-05-2020, 05:12 PM
What I want is for everyone to be treated fairly and for the people ‘in charge’ to not treat us as play things for their amusement while they swan off and do whatever they want, directly contradicting everything they’ve put in place for everyone, they are not special, they are not above the law, if you can’t stick to the rules, you shouldn’t be setting the rules, simple as that

I don't think describing a possible life or death situation as swanning off somewhere is the voice of a sane person.

The Slim Reaper
23-05-2020, 05:26 PM
just shows you after 3 top people flouted the "rules" that the "science" behind these "rules" and the "rules" themselves were bullsh*T

we have all been sold a pup

You going full on militia truther?

Beso
23-05-2020, 05:29 PM
We all need to calm down and remember the original rules were made to protect the NHS from being overwhelmed.

As a nation we achieved that, now it should be up to families and individuals to decide upon the risks they want to take in meeting one and other.

arista
23-05-2020, 05:39 PM
I don't really care that he took his kid to stay with grandparents... What HAS confused me though, is that his wife wrote an article about rhwir Covid experience where she said explicitly that their son was at home with them and helped look after Dom at the peak of his illness when he couldn't even get out of bed, "playing doctor" and getting involved, so that it wouldn't be scary. :think: but apparently he wasn't there... Wh...


Sure The Wife.


But this about Dom
he is staying put.

Tough Luck Pathetic Labour and SNP.

AnnieK
23-05-2020, 05:44 PM
Liam wanting 2 parents with severe symptoms to stay at home and look after their children


A bit strange imo.

Those same 2 parents who could possibly have infected the child wanting to drive across the country and possibly infect their wider family. Bit stranger imo.

arista
23-05-2020, 06:01 PM
1264171402401382400


You Tell Them
Dom.

hijaxers
23-05-2020, 06:06 PM
Sure The Wife.


But this about Dom
he is staying put.

Tough Luck Pathetic Labour and SNP.

Dom needs a whacking great boot up his arse , send him back to mummy and dadddy.

Marsh.
23-05-2020, 06:09 PM
I don't think describing a possible life or death situation as swanning off somewhere is the voice of a sane person.

A life or death situation that they could only make worse, not better, by doing what they did?

The Slim Reaper
23-05-2020, 06:15 PM
Sure The Wife.


But this about Dom
he is staying put.

Tough Luck Pathetic Labour and SNP.

It's been nice having sane Arista for the last few weeks, but I guess that's over again now?

Beso
23-05-2020, 06:22 PM
Those same 2 parents who could possibly have infected the child wanting to drive across the country and possibly infect their wider family. Bit stranger imo.

I don't think they wanted to drive across the country. I think the family as one made a decision in the best interests of the whole family...like any family should do in the same situation.


Especially the ones who believe the government to be a bunch of clowns.

Beso
23-05-2020, 06:23 PM
A life or death situation that they could only make worse, not better, by doing what they did?

A families prerogative

Marsh.
23-05-2020, 06:24 PM
A families prerogative

A weak rebuttal but fair enough.

Toy Soldier
23-05-2020, 06:31 PM
Ok so the the wifes a born liar then is it ? bunch of vipersWell either her story is fiction, or his reason for going to see the parents is a lie.

Beso
23-05-2020, 06:35 PM
A weak rebuttal but fair enough.

Its not a rebuttal, it's my opinion.


I don't care for forum games.

Liam-
23-05-2020, 06:52 PM
1264262838622830601

Oop

AnnieK
23-05-2020, 06:52 PM
I don't think they wanted to drive across the country. I think the family as one made a decision in the best interests of the whole family...like any family should do in the same situation.


Especially the ones who believe the government to be a bunch of clowns.

It's irresponsible and had you or I been caught driving that distance at that point in lockdown it would have been a very different story

The Slim Reaper
23-05-2020, 06:57 PM
1264262838622830601

Oop

:joker:

hijaxers
23-05-2020, 07:03 PM
1264262838622830601

Oop

How can you defend this trip then Arista ?

MTVN
23-05-2020, 07:09 PM
Oh dear. Will wait to see if it's confirmed but if it is then the gov should be grateful to the Mirror and Observer for getting a second chance to fire him

Marsh.
23-05-2020, 07:20 PM
Its not a rebuttal, it's my opinion.


I don't care for forum games.

Forum games? You've lost me there Parm.

arista
23-05-2020, 07:21 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/05/22/22/28721104-8349129-image-m-66_1590182036915.jpg

Kizzy
23-05-2020, 08:12 PM
Just a observer

Ok ..even as an observer he was fully aware of the recommendations from sage before anyone why did he break them?

Lots of people had the virus and have kids, if they didn't break lockdown why did he?

Beso
23-05-2020, 08:18 PM
It's irresponsible and had you or I been caught driving that distance at that point in lockdown it would have been a very different story

My employer wouldn't fire me for it, I can assure you of that

Kizzy
23-05-2020, 08:46 PM
My employer wouldn't fire me for it, I can assure you of that

You aren't a government advisor who oversaw the implementation of the lockdown are you?

Oliver_W
23-05-2020, 08:50 PM
tbh I've visited/been visited by family members, but it's always in the garden, and we're always keeping 2m distance.

But none of us have symptoms, so...

rusticgal
23-05-2020, 09:30 PM
Sounds like he is twisting the truth...arrogant twat.
Made me laugh though all the photographers outside of his home scrambling over each other for a shot. The hypocrisy...
However he was wrong to do what he did imo...but many people are flouting the rules including journalists...but they won’t be sacked.
He should have come clean and been more humble instead of being arrogant and defensive.

Beso
23-05-2020, 10:28 PM
You aren't a government advisor who oversaw the implementation of the lockdown are you?

No..

But what makes them any different to us?

Kizzy
23-05-2020, 11:00 PM
No..

But what makes them any different to us?

Well exactly, forget that he is armed with the information he gained sitting in on sage meetings. Ultimately he is just a citizen, surely if you or I were symptomatic and travelled from the capital to the north east and the police ware called there would have been some charges..Why not him?

Samm
24-05-2020, 12:02 AM
Funny the man who the tories hold in such a high regard has brought the party to it’s worst publicity in recent times

michael21
24-05-2020, 12:06 AM
Funny the man who the tories hold in such a high regard has brought the party to it’s worst publicity in recent times

What about the last 2 years there be an utter joke

arista
24-05-2020, 01:50 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/100F6/production/_112428756_telegraph.jpg

arista
24-05-2020, 01:51 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/14F16/production/_112428758_sunday-people.jpg

arista
24-05-2020, 01:52 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/D9E6/production/_112428755_guardian-observer.jpg

arista
24-05-2020, 01:53 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/12806/production/_112428757_sunday-mirror.jpg

arista
24-05-2020, 01:56 AM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/Aq8SkM6K7nir_exHc9cQ_g/https/media.fyre.co/EZPC8KI5RrWg7nWy7Pn0_ST24.JPG

arista
24-05-2020, 07:49 AM
1264460315242246144

arista
24-05-2020, 08:22 AM
1264470718911328256

arista
24-05-2020, 08:59 AM
At last the Truth
Cummings Driving was not as Ill as his wife
when he drove up there.

Live BBC1HD Marr Grant Shapps MP

Liam-
24-05-2020, 09:04 AM
At last the Truth
Cummings Driving was not as Ill as his wife
when he drove up there.

Live BBC1HD Marr Grant Shapps MP

So even less of a reason for breaking the rules then, glad that’s sorted

arista
24-05-2020, 09:08 AM
So even less of a reason for breaking the rules then, glad that’s sorted


Look its Left Wing papers
jumping on this.
Meanwhile, Covid 19 matters are ignored

Liam-
24-05-2020, 09:12 AM
Look its Left Wing papers
jumping on this.
Meanwhile, Covid 19 matters are ignored

Papers across all political spectrums are covering this, not just left wing, Tory mps are even coming out saying he should go now, it’s not a partisan thing, it’s a public trust thing

arista
24-05-2020, 09:13 AM
Marr wasted his whole interview
on this, ignoring the New Transport Story's.

arista
24-05-2020, 09:15 AM
Papers across all political spectrums are covering this, not just left wing, Tory mps are even coming out saying he should go now, it’s not a partisan thing, it’s a public trust thing


Sure
they are all on the bandwagon
but it is the Cocky Mirror and the Guardian
stuck on this fake news

bots
24-05-2020, 09:18 AM
Sure
they are all on the bandwagon
but it is the Cocky Mirror and the Guardian
stuck on this fake news

it's not fake news arista, it happened, and it's time he got the boot

Liam-
24-05-2020, 09:26 AM
Sure
they are all on the bandwagon
but it is the Cocky Mirror and the Guardian
stuck on this fake news

Except it’s not fake news is it?

AnnieK
24-05-2020, 09:27 AM
Sure
they are all on the bandwagon
but it is the Cocky Mirror and the Guardian
stuck on this fake news

What part is fake news? The part where he broke the lockdown? The bit where he said he was ill and said he had to have help to look after his son, the part where he drove over 200 miles to get that help when he had family in London? Which part specifically is fake?

arista
24-05-2020, 09:28 AM
What part is fake news? The part where he broke the lockdown? The bit where he said he was ill and said he had to have help to look after his son, the part where he drove over 200 miles to get that help when he had family in London? Which part specifically is fake?

The 2nd Visit

arista
24-05-2020, 09:30 AM
it's not fake news arista, it happened, and it's time he got the boot

Not the 2nd visit

AnnieK
24-05-2020, 09:33 AM
The 2nd Visit

There should never have been a first visit. There are plenty of eye witnesses who saw him on the second visit....but he should have never driven there in the first place. His position is untenable now, he needs to go. He is damaging the Government every minute longer he stays

arista
24-05-2020, 09:33 AM
1264488506497404928

AnnieK
24-05-2020, 09:33 AM
Not the 2nd visit

Says who anyway?

arista
24-05-2020, 09:34 AM
There should never have been a first visit. There are plenty of eye witnesses who saw him on the second visit....but he should have never driven there in the first place. His position is untenable now, he needs to go. He is damaging the Government every minute longer he stays


No he will Not Resign

Liam-
24-05-2020, 09:34 AM
No he will Not Resign

Then he should be fired

arista
24-05-2020, 09:35 AM
Says who anyway?

Grant Shapps MP
Live Marr BBC1HD
end of his show

arista
24-05-2020, 09:36 AM
Then he should be fired

No PM Johnson needs him as a specialist Adviser

Liam-
24-05-2020, 09:36 AM
Grant Shapps MP
Live Marr BBC1HD
end of his show

Aye, the bloke sent by the government to defend its top aide definitely doesn’t have an agenda to uphold

arista
24-05-2020, 09:50 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYxfZ4dXYAEax7u?format=jpg&name=900x900

Cherie
24-05-2020, 10:32 AM
Marr wasted the whole interview on it which I thought was stupid as Schapps had already answered yesterday so his responses were not going to change and public transport and how it will be adapted going forward is just as important right now

arista
24-05-2020, 10:55 AM
Marr wasted the whole interview on it which I thought was stupid as Schapps had already answered yesterday so his responses were not going to change and public transport and how it will be adapted going forward is just as important right now


Yes at least before the Live Marr

Shapps was Live on Ridge
standing out the BBC building
on SkyNewsHD and she let him talk
about transport at the end.

arista
24-05-2020, 11:07 AM
Cummings has left his home
to go to Downing St.
The Ch4News lady reporter
harassed him more loudly than any other reporter

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 11:10 AM
Nothing said about the photographers shoulder to shoulder jostling for pics for this 'exclusive' lol, got to laugh at the hypocrisy .
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/dominic-cummings-lockdown-breach-reaction-response-a4449281.html

arista
24-05-2020, 11:13 AM
Nothing said about the photographers shoulder to shoulder jostling for pics for this 'exclusive' lol, got to laugh at the hypocrisy .
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/dominic-cummings-lockdown-breach-reaction-response-a4449281.html

Yes yesterday

The Exit today was far worse

Liam-
24-05-2020, 11:14 AM
Nothing said about the photographers shoulder to shoulder jostling for pics for this 'exclusive' lol, got to laugh at the hypocrisy .
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/dominic-cummings-lockdown-breach-reaction-response-a4449281.html

How do you feel about Dominics hypocrisy?

Samm
24-05-2020, 11:21 AM
Nothing said about the photographers shoulder to shoulder jostling for pics for this 'exclusive' lol, got to laugh at the hypocrisy .
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/dominic-cummings-lockdown-breach-reaction-response-a4449281.html

What the hell are you on? Dominic Cummings is a top adviser who implemented the lockdown protocol and has broke it numerous times. They are the paparazzi who hold no accountability over lockdown or the government.

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 11:37 AM
What the hell are you on? Dominic Cummings is a top adviser who implemented the lockdown protocol and has broke it numerous times. They are the paparazzi who hold no accountability over lockdown or the government.

So the public can flout the rules and none of the government,WE are accountable for our actions no one else, I am not saying what he did was right,so calm down, IF we are going to pull people apart lets do it to all those who break the rules on this.I suppose it depends on what newspapers you read. Will they all be losing their jobs ?

The Slim Reaper
24-05-2020, 11:37 AM
it's wild how you can have Rees-Mogg going round blaming the victims of grenfell for not having enough common sense to escape, Cummings looking down on the whole country with an air of exceptionalism, and Boris hiding away, whilst everyday mothers/wives/husbands/children will defend their privilege to not have to face any accountability.

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 11:40 AM
How do you feel about Dominics hypocrisy?

I don't know enough about it yet to comment, I certainly wont rely on newpapers for the info, as it stands at the minute,I think he shouldn't have done it but there again,there are hundreds who shouldn't have done it !!! IF he had a valid reason I might change my mind we will see.

Liam-
24-05-2020, 11:40 AM
So the public can flout the rules and none of the government,WE are accountable for our actions no one else, I am not saying what he did was right,so calm down, IF we are going to pull people apart lets do it to all those who break the rules on this.I suppose it depends on what newspapers you read.

Weren’t you one of the people not so long ago saying the people breaking lockdown rules should be refused treatment cause they should get what they deserve? The public are being held to a much higher standard that the people making the rules, if the public get fined for cautioned for much less than what Dominic did, why do you think it’s appropriate for him to get away with it? You can spout as much nonsense about ‘common sense’ as you want, it doesn’t take away from what he’s done and what’s continuing to happen

Kizzy
24-05-2020, 11:40 AM
Sure
they are all on the bandwagon
but it is the Cocky Mirror and the Guardian
stuck on this fake news

It's not fake news it happened.

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 11:42 AM
Weren’t you one of the people not so long ago saying the people breaking lockdown rules should be refused treatment cause they should get what they deserve? The public are being held to a much higher standard that the people making the rules, if the public get fined for cautioned for much less than what Dominic did, why do you think it’s appropriate for him to get away with it? You can spout as much nonsense about ‘common sense’ as you want, it doesn’t take away from what he’s done and what’s continuing to happen

No,you have the wrong person

Liam-
24-05-2020, 11:42 AM
No surprise these people get away with things like this when people defend them to the hilt even while knowing they’re wrong, unbelievable

Liam-
24-05-2020, 11:43 AM
No,you have the wrong person

No, I really haven’t, you were one of a few who did it on the regular

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 11:44 AM
No, I really haven’t, you were one of a few who did it on the regular

Find me the post where I said people should not be treated.

DouglasS
24-05-2020, 11:45 AM
So the public can flout the rules and none of the government,WE are accountable for our actions no one else, I am not saying what he did was right,so calm down, IF we are going to pull people apart lets do it to all those who break the rules on this.I suppose it depends on what newspapers you read. Will they all be losing their jobs ?

Exactly.
Half the public are breaking the rules now, people only care because he’s a member of government And people are wanting to hate the government, , the people complaining have probably broken the rules also...

And I also do think he was silly to break the rules but the media is always going to make it sound as bad as possible, and like Kazanne has said firing everyone for breaking the rules would leave nobody in the workforce. I personally am not bothered if he goes because I’ve never been a fan of him and do find him a little arrogant, but it’s just hypocritical to blame the government for all wrong doings when the public are at fault. I also don’t like this new culture of, theyve made a mistake, fire them, as it will get dangerous soon and will start happening more frequently for smaller errors/issues

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 11:49 AM
No surprise these people get away with things like this when people defend them to the hilt even while knowing they’re wrong, unbelievable

No one is defending him, just pointing out the hypocrisy here.IF he broke the rules for no valid reason he needs his arse kicked,but all we have at the minute is hysterical newspaper headlines. I wonder why ? Didn't Kinnock do the same? not a lot said about that one.this from one of the top rag mags
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11282446/labour-mp-stephen-kinnock-party-police-coronavirus/

AnnieK
24-05-2020, 11:55 AM
No one is defending him, just pointing out the hypocrisy here.IF he broke the rules for no valid reason he needs his arse kicked,but all we have at the minute is hysterical newspaper headlines. I wonder why ? Didn't Kinnock do the same? not a lot said about that one.this from one of the top rag mags
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11282446/labour-mp-stephen-kinnock-party-police-coronavirus/

The difference being though Kaz, Kinnock advise on the lockdown being put in place. When you set the rules people will always call you out, quite rightly, if you don't adhere to them. We know it has happened so to me its indefensible.

Plenty of other parent's who have had the virus struggled through with their children without breaking the lockdown that Cummings himself was instrumental in implementing.

Liam-
24-05-2020, 11:58 AM
No one is defending him, just pointing out the hypocrisy here.IF he broke the rules for no valid reason he needs his arse kicked,but all we have at the minute is hysterical newspaper headlines. I wonder why ? Didn't Kinnock do the same? not a lot said about that one.this from one of the top rag mags
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11282446/labour-mp-stephen-kinnock-party-police-coronavirus/

He should have been punished as well, the big difference is, he wasn’t one of the people in charge of creating the rules was he? Don’t make the rules, if you’re not going to stick to them yourself

Toy Soldier
24-05-2020, 12:01 PM
Exactly.
Half the public are breaking the rules now, people only care because he’s a member of government And people are wanting to hate the government, , the people complaining have probably broken the rules also...


I think the anger is about the hypocrisy more than the action, though. Yes a lot of people are bending the rules - but they're not the people telling everyone else that they should be following them (or actually SETTING them in the first place).

I guess for a comparison, it would be like James going around TiBB calling everyone cockgremlins and then telling people they'll get banned if they call him names.

Like no one would actually be angry about the swearing - they'd be angry about the double standards.

Liam-
24-05-2020, 12:03 PM
Also, as one of the people ‘complaining’ I have most definitely not broken the rules myself, because I for one actually care about my vulnerable mother who will definitely die if she caught the virus, but that’s just me

Toy Soldier
24-05-2020, 12:05 PM
BUT yes as I said yesterday, I think there is a large element of "needing a punching bag" going on at the moment. That's not to say that these people don't deserve it... But I think a lot of the "outrage" is because people are (understandably) frustrated at a situation that's bigger than individuals or governments... But you can't swing your fists at a virus, you can't scream or shout or be outraged at a virus, it would be like standing on a pier screeching at a hurricane to **** off back out to sea.

All of that pent up anger and frustration has to go somewhere. And to be fair, I can't think of many people more deserving of it than Cummings. Extremely sinister little troglodyte.

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 12:18 PM
The difference being though Kaz, Kinnock advise on the lockdown being put in place. When you set the rules people will always call you out, quite rightly, if you don't adhere to them. We know it has happened so to me its indefensible.

Plenty of other parent's who have had the virus struggled through with their children without breaking the lockdown that Cummings himself was instrumental in implementing.

I understand that Annie and I know he has done it ,not clear on why though yet ,I have adhered to the lockdown as much as possible myself ,I am classed as a key worker so have had to go out at times, but have kept my distance as much as I can,I don't have a problem with people who do that,I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of the paps ,shoulder to shoulder to get those pics,you stay safe Annie.

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 12:21 PM
I think the anger is about the hypocrisy more than the action, though. Yes a lot of people are bending the rules - but they're not the people telling everyone else that they should be following them (or actually SETTING them in the first place).

I guess for a comparison, it would be like James going around TiBB calling everyone cockgremlins and then telling people they'll get banned if they call him names.

Like no one would actually be angry about the swearing - they'd be angry about the double standards.

I get this aswell, but the hypocrisy of the press just made me shake my head, also I do think even on TIBB there has been double standards,just my opinion.

Marsh.
24-05-2020, 12:23 PM
So you'd rather distract the discussion to hypocrite paps and TiBB mods than Cummings, the topic of discussion. :facepalm:

AnnieK
24-05-2020, 12:34 PM
I understand that Annie and I know he has done it ,not clear on why though yet ,I have adhered to the lockdown as much as possible myself ,I am classed as a key worker so have had to go out at times, but have kept my distance as much as I can,I don't have a problem with people who do that,I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of the paps ,shoulder to shoulder to get those pics,you stay safe Annie.

I understand that Kaz and have very little thoughts for the media but in my mind if you hold yourself as a leader above the people you are more accountable for your actions and be prepared for criticism if you are found lacking as he has been here..

I have adhered to the lockdown to the letter - I have done only essential shopping as infrequently as possible as I have done lots of batch cooking so there was plenty of meals in the freezer, not visited anyone and as a non essential furloughed worker have not left the house other than for the hour a day we have been allowed.

Hope you and your family are all safe and well Kaz :love:

Oliver_W
24-05-2020, 12:44 PM
It'll probably be a similar situation to when that woman in Scotland was having merry weekends away - Sturgeon didn't intend to sack her, but she was harassed out of the job. I don't think BoJo intends to sack Cummings, but he also might be bullied into it.

It's not like he was breaking the rules for fun - his parents were ill, and couldn't look after the kids. To be fair that is a reasonable reason to go there.

Liam-
24-05-2020, 12:47 PM
It'll probably be a similar situation to when that woman in Scotland was having merry weekends away - Sturgeon didn't intend to sack her, but she was harassed out of the job. I don't think BoJo intends to sack Cummings, but he also might be bullied into it.

It's not like he was breaking the rules for fun - his parents were ill, and couldn't look after the kids. To be fair that is a reasonable reason to go there.

That’s not what happened at all :laugh;

Oliver_W
24-05-2020, 12:49 PM
That’s not what happened at all :laugh;

Tell me?

Cherie
24-05-2020, 12:49 PM
It'll probably be a similar situation to when that woman in Scotland was having merry weekends away - Sturgeon didn't intend to sack her, but she was harassed out of the job. I don't think BoJo intends to sack Cummings, but he also might be bullied into it.

It's not like he was breaking the rules for fun - his parents were ill, and couldn't look after the kids. To be fair that is a reasonable reason to go there.

There has been no suggestion his parents were ill? ...and what kids are we talking about? it was Easter holidays perfect time for a break from London more like

Liam-
24-05-2020, 12:51 PM
Tell me?

His wife had symptoms so they drove nearly 300 miles to stay near his parents and they still looked after the kids themselves by the wife’s account, there was literally zero reason for them to go there

Liam-
24-05-2020, 12:52 PM
I suppose that it’s just a coincidence that his mother and his wife’s birthdays coincide with his multiple trips away from London

Oliver_W
24-05-2020, 12:53 PM
Oops it looks like you're right :joker:

The article I just read says they made the journey so his parents could look after the kid while he and his wife recovered, which if it were true would be fair.

Kizzy
24-05-2020, 12:58 PM
The not travelling is so you don't create ' bubbles' of infection wherever you go. Can you imagine having to track and trace his trip?

arista
24-05-2020, 01:13 PM
SkyNewsHD sent a reporter
to meet the public bloke that claimed he
thought it might be him?

So no photo proof - for any 2nd visit

Cocky Mirror Paper
trying to stay alive......................

bots
24-05-2020, 01:23 PM
i think it's quite simple. If Cummings doesn't go, the next time Boris asks the public to do anything they will just tell him to f off

rusticgal
24-05-2020, 01:24 PM
Nothing said about the photographers shoulder to shoulder jostling for pics for this 'exclusive' lol, got to laugh at the hypocrisy .
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/dominic-cummings-lockdown-breach-reaction-response-a4449281.html


Exactly what I said earlier....

Toy Soldier
24-05-2020, 01:28 PM
i think it's quite simple. If Cummings doesn't go, the next time Boris asks the public to do anything they will just tell him to f off

Meh. I strongly suspect that the people who were going to do whatever they want will do whatever they want, the people who are being sensible will be sensible, and the Boris stans will hang on his every word having forgotten anything happened (or having already dismissed/excused it entirely).

arista
24-05-2020, 01:30 PM
i think it's quite simple. If Cummings doesn't go, the next time Boris asks the public to do anything they will just tell him to f off


Many do, anyway

Liam-
24-05-2020, 01:32 PM
I wonder what forced positive story Boris has got up his sleeve to distract from everything happening now, I got dibs on another mistress being pregnant

arista
24-05-2020, 01:35 PM
I wonder what forced positive story Boris has got up his sleeve to distract from everything happening now, I got dibs on another mistress being pregnant

How could any keep that hidden?

Liam-
24-05-2020, 01:39 PM
How could any keep that hidden?

He does a good job of keeping the number of kids he has hidden, I’m sure he’d manage

rusticgal
24-05-2020, 01:40 PM
I hope this guy resigns for the sake of party. Anything Boris proposes will not be taken seriously if members of his party flout the rules....he has to go.

rusticgal
24-05-2020, 01:41 PM
He does a good job of keeping the number of kids he has hidden, I’m sure he’d manage


His private life is his own business and he is merely protecting his children.

Toy Soldier
24-05-2020, 01:43 PM
His private life is his own business and he is merely protecting his children.Protecting his children by wanting nothing to do with them? :joker:

Liam-
24-05-2020, 01:47 PM
His private life is his own business and he is merely protecting his children.

Ah, the good ol’ abandon to protect technique

arista
24-05-2020, 01:49 PM
Bully Lady Reporter Minnie
Ch4News shouting so much.

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The Slim Reaper
24-05-2020, 01:57 PM
I wonder what forced positive story Boris has got up his sleeve to distract from everything happening now, I got dibs on another mistress being pregnant

Muslim terrorist plot foiled after Boris personally intervened to oversee the secret mission, or brown people sent back to france in a dinghy, or Boris seen sticking 2 fingers up at the EU flag

The 3 tory wet dream issues to get any "i'm not racist, but...." back on their side.

The Slim Reaper
24-05-2020, 01:58 PM
Bully Lady Reporter Minnie
Ch4News shouting so much.

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Are you Ok today Arista? Or do you consider me asking a question to be bullying?

Cherie
24-05-2020, 02:14 PM
Bully Lady Reporter Minnie
Ch4News shouting so much.

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The hypocrisy of all of them huddled together around the car asking about rule breaking ....:joker:

You could not make up the irony of that clip, what a great example they all are

Samm
24-05-2020, 02:19 PM
love this :love: the privileged should NEVER get a pass

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rusticgal
24-05-2020, 02:33 PM
Protecting his children by wanting nothing to do with them? :joker:


....and how do you know he has nothing to do with them :shrug:

rusticgal
24-05-2020, 02:36 PM
Ah, the good ol’ abandon to protect technique


Do you not realise protecting them isn’t abandoning them....:laugh:

Toy Soldier
24-05-2020, 02:38 PM
....and how do you know he has nothing to do with them :shrug:He's a high profile public figure, if he spent any time with them, people would know who they are. Facts are, he (apparently) has children with multiple different women and while he probably provides some financial support because of legal obligation, he clearly doesn't have a personal relationship with them.

Liam-
24-05-2020, 02:44 PM
Do you not realise protecting them isn’t abandoning them....:laugh:

Well then he clearly isn’t protecting them is he cause he’s certainly abandoned them

Cherie
24-05-2020, 02:53 PM
love this :love: the privileged should NEVER get a pass

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Not liking that at all, with a young child inside it's not a great look for the press

arista
24-05-2020, 03:05 PM
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Kazanne
24-05-2020, 03:12 PM
This is getting stupid now,there is a child in that house,the gutter press at their finest.
https://britannianews.co.uk/2020/05/24/disgusting-gutter-press-witch-hunt-has-gone-to-far/

They claim the ' sighting'of DC on 2nd occasion was an 'anonymous ' source no evidence no proof and not prepared to make statements about the 'alleged sighting '

Ok what he did was not right in some peoples eyes but this is just harassment.

Liam-
24-05-2020, 03:15 PM
A van in a public place is not harassment, if they were shouting and knocking his door then maybe, it’s an exercise of free speech, is it a bit extreme? Probably, is it underserved? Absolutely not

Liam-
24-05-2020, 03:15 PM
‘In some people’s eyes’

:joker:

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 03:16 PM
love this :love: the privileged should NEVER get a pass

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Anyone who loves to see someone harassed like that needs to give their heads a wobble.
Harassment here, pure and simple ! No thought for his family and neighbours. Intimidation too, utterly disgraceful from the gutter press and media .

Jordan.
24-05-2020, 03:17 PM
put lives at risk but don't upset the children :(

rusticgal
24-05-2020, 03:17 PM
He's a high profile public figure, if he spent any time with them, people would know who they are. Facts are, he (apparently) has children with multiple different women and while he probably provides some financial support because of legal obligation, he clearly doesn't have a personal relationship with them.


You don’t know any facts about his relationship or his financial support...unless of course you are a personal friend.

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 03:19 PM
A van in a public place is not harassment, if they were shouting and knocking his door then maybe, it’s an exercise of free speech, is it a bit extreme? Probably, is it underserved? Absolutely not

There is a loud speaker on plus a child involved ,what does this achieve ?

rusticgal
24-05-2020, 03:19 PM
Anyone who loves to see someone harassed like that needs to give their heads a wobble.
Harassment here, pure and simple ! No thought for his family and neighbours. Intimidation too, utterly disgraceful from the gutter press and media .


What he did was wrong....but this behaviour by the press is ugly and hypocritical.

Liam-
24-05-2020, 03:19 PM
Anyone who loves to see someone harassed like that needs to give their heads a wobble.
Harassment here, pure and simple ! No thought for his family and neighbours. Intimidation too, utterly disgraceful from the gutter press and media .

What’s the press got to do with it? They didn’t do it, are they not allowed to report on things now?

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 03:21 PM
What’s the press got to do with it? They didn’t do it, are they not allowed to report on things now?

They are not reporting anything,they are now harassing , plus the press are also breaking the rules Im holding them accountable for their actions,thats allowed.

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 03:22 PM
What he did was wrong....but this behaviour by the press is ugly and hypocritical.

Agree ,and even worse people getting pleasure from it, :shrug:

rusticgal
24-05-2020, 03:22 PM
Well then he clearly isn’t protecting them is he cause he’s certainly abandoned them



You are talking utter rubbish....how do you know he isn’t protecting them?...and you don’t know that he has abandoned them...so stop making it up.

Liam-
24-05-2020, 03:23 PM
They are not reporting anything,they are now harassing , plus the press are also breaking the rules Im holding them accountable for their actions,thats allowed.

They’re reporting a story that is happening... that’s literally their job, you love passing the buck don’t you lmao

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 03:24 PM
You are talking utter rubbish....how do you know he isn’t protecting them?...and you don’t know that he has abandoned them...so stop making it up.

:wavey:hope you are well rusti nice to see you posting

rusticgal
24-05-2020, 03:24 PM
What’s the press got to do with it? They didn’t do it, are they not allowed to report on things now?


There is reporting....and then there is harassment and intimidation...and sticking a massive screen outside his house for that very purpose is WRONG.

Cherie
24-05-2020, 03:25 PM
A van in a public place is not harassment, if they were shouting and knocking his door then maybe, it’s an exercise of free speech, is it a bit extreme? Probably, is it underserved? Absolutely not

It serves no journalistic value, and is the type of journalism that probably sent Caroline Flack to her death and received comments like scum, vile etc

By all means doorstep him, and if they wanted to do this they could have done it at No. 10 rather than at his home, is he even in there? according to the latest news he has been at No. 10 for the past 4 hours

Liam-
24-05-2020, 03:25 PM
There is reporting....and then there is harassment and intimidation...and sticking a massive screen outside his house for that very purpose is WRONG.

Again, the press aren’t responsible for that, activists paid for the screen to be there, the press are just reporting on it

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 03:27 PM
They’re reporting a story that is happening... that’s literally their job, you love passing the buck don’t you lmao

We know already what happened so they really need to stop with their loud speakers etc, plus they need to get their stories correct as their is NO proof of a second visit anywhere. but those headlines count,no matter how they get them.

Liam-
24-05-2020, 03:27 PM
It serves no journalistic value, and is the type of journalism that probably sent Caroline Flack to her death and received comments like scum, vile etc

By all means doorstep him, and if they wanted to do this they could have done it at No. 10 rather than at his home, is he even in there? according to the latest news he has been at No. 10 for the past 4 hours

Doesn’t look like anybody is home, the police knocked on the door and I don’t think they got an answer so, who’s it hurting?

rusticgal
24-05-2020, 03:27 PM
:wavey:hope you are well rusti nice to see you posting

Hi Kaz :wavey:.....I’m always on here...just don’t post much. Hope you and your family are safe...:hug:

Samm
24-05-2020, 03:29 PM
Anyone who loves to see someone harassed like that needs to give their heads a wobble.
Harassment here, pure and simple ! No thought for his family and neighbours. Intimidation too, utterly disgraceful from the gutter press and media .

I sure hope Cummings is happy that’s he’s able to travel miles throughout the country, while a thirteen year old boy was buried alone due to his family not being able to mourn him

Liam-
24-05-2020, 03:29 PM
We know already what happened so they really need to stop with their loud speakers etc, plus they need to get their stories correct as their is NO proof of a second visit anywhere. but those headlines count,no matter how they get them.

Who’s got loudspeakers?
Hold the same energy for a government that is constantly changing it story to back up someone who broke his own rules

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 03:29 PM
Hi Kaz :wavey:.....I’m always on here...just don’t post much. Hope you and your family are safe...:hug:

I know what you mean,and yes all good thankyou:wavey:i will be glad when all this is calming down ,it's all getting a bit silly now.

rusticgal
24-05-2020, 03:31 PM
Again, the press aren’t responsible for that, activists paid for the screen to be there, the press are just reporting on it


Well they are responsible for flouting the rules as well....it’s all on camera. But you go on supporting them in their hypocrisy :laugh:

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 03:31 PM
I sure hope Cummings is happy that’s he’s able to travel miles throughout the country, while a thirteen year old boy was buried alone due to his family not being able to mourn him

Tell that to everyone else who has done that .

Samm
24-05-2020, 03:32 PM
Oh so the press harassment of Jeremy Corbyn was just fine, but the press reporting on one of the most senior people in this county breaking lockdown rules is bad?

Samm
24-05-2020, 03:33 PM
Tell that to everyone else who has done that .

I don’t think you’re getting it are you, Cummings is a senior official he’s not like “everyone”.

Kazanne
24-05-2020, 03:34 PM
Who’s got loudspeakers?
Hold the same energy for a government that is constantly changing it story to back up someone who broke his own rules

Theres a loud speaker video playing outside his house,did you go to the link ?