George Floyd killed by the police

[joeysteele]

“You have to make more noise than anybody else, you have to make yourself more obtrusive than anybody else, you have to fill all the papers more than anybody else, in fact you have to be there all the time and see that they do not show you under, if you are really going to get your reform realised.”

Emmeline Pankhurst.

I am utterly shocked at the responses I have been seeing to these protests. But I think I'm especially shocked that there are women trying to deny the benefits of protesting when that is EXACTLY what granted us electoral equality in 1928.

The fight for equality has to start somewhere. Black people have been ignored for centuries - of course they are going to ****ing rebel. That's just human nature.

Educate yourselves.

Exactly..
Really good post.

Says a great deal all through.

[thesheriff443]

“You have to make more noise than anybody else, you have to make yourself more obtrusive than anybody else, you have to fill all the papers more than anybody else, in fact you have to be there all the time and see that they do not show you under, if you are really going to get your reform realised.”

Emmeline Pankhurst.

I am utterly shocked at the responses I have been seeing to these protests. But I think I'm especially shocked that there are women trying to deny the benefits of protesting when that is EXACTLY what granted us electoral equality in 1928.

The fight for equality has to start somewhere. Black people have been ignored for centuries - of course they are going to ****ing rebel. That's just human nature.

Educate yourselves.

Don’t be condescending by telling people to educate themselves.

Lots try and use the fact that woman’s rights and gays rights as an example of how change will come by getting yourself out in the public eye.

Racism is a far deeper divide but change will come if the people that we vote into power have no choice but to make laws that protect ethnic minority’s because the overwhelming voice from the people is we want the law changed.

As soon as protesters show violence and start attacking businesses and the police all the momentum is lost and we are back to square one.

All good people don’t want violence and vandalism on the streets so that the empathy they felt for the cause is replaced by anger.

It’s people in suits that use pens that change life’s not those in hoodies carrying improvised weapons.

[Oliver_W]

The fight for equality has to start somewhere. Black people have been ignored for centuries - of course they are going to ****ing rebel. That's just human nature.

Educate yourselves.
Which equalities are they missing in the UK?

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Or maybe it's because the recent protests have been going on for several weekends in a row, and now they can use social media to communicate more effectively.

[Cherie]

The London Mayor has asked that people do not march this weekend, do not throw away 12 weeks of lockdown, endanger further lives to the virus, not to mention the countless business's owned by both black and white and associated jobs that will be lost if the virus starts to spread unchecked again. I guess he needs to educate himself as well

[Oliver_W]

The London Mayor has asked that people do not march this weekend, do not throw away 12 weeks of lockdown, endanger further lives to the virus, not to mention the countless business's owned by both black and white and associated jobs that will be lost if the virus starts to spread unchecked again. I guess he needs to educate himself as well

If this problem really is hundreds of years old, I'm sure it can wait a few weeks until a global pandemic -which seems to affect BAME people worse- has ebbed down a bit.

But what does an Oreo like him know about anything :rolleyes:

[arista]

Yes the mayor also said
after 5PM
The Police Curfew takes over in Central London,
and Police can arrest them.

[arista]

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[joeysteele]

Well this London Mayor is not covered in glory as to his handling of very much.

I'm not in favour of destruction of anything by the more volatile of people attaching themselves to the protests.

This is in the public domain now, after the trigger from the horrific killing of George Floyd.
Those deep rooted issues, suppressed for so long were bound to surface.

Now, the government and authorities would love all this to go away.
Constantly on about this pandemic, when the government has created more and more confusion of what is acceptable now.

Even looking at reducing the distance figure.
Despite the R infection rate risng from a few weeks ago from 0.5 to 0.9.
To now O.7 to 0.9
With it estimated at 1 or over 1 in some areas.
Yet more and more of the lockdown being eased.

People are confused.
I cannot grasp all the so called easing of measures.
There's people who haven't a clue how, or is it even safe to now engage is this bubble from this weekend too.

These protesters feel strongly, their cause is right, there are racial issues in the USA and here in the UK.
No matter how much some in the UK, would like it all swept under the carpet.

These protesters will persist and rightly so.
The message is clear.
Black lives matter.

To some in the USA and UK, black lives probably don't, so any attempt to portray these protesters negatively will be seized on.

No, Ashley's post is pretty much spot on as AnnieK indicated too.

It would be all too easy to stop protesting now, leaving those in power, locally and Nationally to pay lip service to the issue while again never addressing it.

Destruction of anything, even offensive statues of dubious characters of history doesn't help the cause obviously.
However the cause, in my view is right.
So government and Councils now need to engage not try to divide further.

To not just hear but actually listen too.
Then really do something positive to address the very serious issues raised in these protests.

[user104658]

Even looking at reducing the distance figure.
Despite the R infection rate risng from a few weeks ago from 0.5 to 0.9.
To now O.7 to 0.9
With it estimated at 1 or over 1 in some areas.
Yet more and more of the lockdown being eased.

People are confused.
I cannot grasp all the so called easing of measures.


They said it would be constantly monitored and restrictions would come back in if it went back up mainly to combat fears about coming out. The truth is that the economy is now on the verge of complete collapse and they are desperately trying to claw back public confidence in getting back two work... and spending so that work actually exists.

I suspect it isn't going to work, trading will remain at below 70% of pre-Covid levels regardless, and companies will start dropping like flies in a few months time.

[joeysteele]

They said it would be constantly monitored and restrictions would come back in if it went back up mainly to combat fears about coming out. The truth is that the economy is now on the verge of complete collapse and they are desperately trying to claw back public confidence in getting back two work... and spending so that work actually exists.

I suspect it isn't going to work, trading will remain at below 70% of pre-Covid levels regardless, and companies will start dropping like flies in a few months time.

I think you're right TS, definitely in your last paragraph.

[Liam-]

‘Defending’ a British war memorial to the people who defeated the nazis, while throwing up nazi salutes is peak 2020

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[Cherie]

‘Defending’ a British war memorial to the people who defeated the nazis, while throwing up nazi salutes is peak 2020

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no brain cells, is anyone surprised?

[The Slim Reaper]

Good to see so many historians out on the streets worried about protecting and preserving our historical heritage.

[Oliver_W]

‘Defending’ a British war memorial to the people who defeated the nazis, while throwing up nazi salutes is peak 2020

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It looks more like they're pointing? Whatever they're doing, they're not social distancing...

[Liam-]

no brain cells, is anyone surprised?

They got nothing else to do, footballs not on

[Cherie]

They got nothing else to do, footballs not on

:nono: no need to tar everyone with the same brush, Slim likes football for instance :hee:

[The Slim Reaper]

:nono: no need to tar everyone with the same brush, Slim likes football for instance :hee:

I do enjoy beating up minorities more though.

[The Slim Reaper]

Another one from TIBBs mr popular, 2020

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The mask slips a bit further.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaYvlgeWAAErLYJ?format=jpg&name=medium

[Liam-]

It’s almost like they never cared about the violence or statues :think:

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[Oliver_W]

And there was me thinking we weren't meant to judge groups based on a few idiots.

[The Slim Reaper]

And there was me thinking we weren't meant to judge groups based on a few idiots.

A few idiots? This is the culmination of a concerted effort by media and politicians who've dog whistled British superiority into action, leading to a racist brexit and what we're seeing today.

These are not the same as people who have had to fight injustice all their lives. These people have been fed their anger and frustrations by Johnson and farage, and used for their own ends.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/13/12/29562524-8416897-image-a-136_1592046263618.jpg


More spreading Covid-19

[Cherie]

Another one from TIBBs mr popular, 2020

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The mask slips a bit further.

:joker: Not a fan of Nick Ferrari either if that helps

My issue with LBC is it's all about ratings so you have shows designed to attract both sides with little balance in either of them....:fist:

[bots]

it will be interesting if LBC get another controversial tit to replace farage

[Cherie]

It’s almost like they never cared about the violence or statues :think:

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It was all they needed to turn up, it's not about statues of course, but unfortunately they were handed a reason, and here we are

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

:joker: Not a fan of Nick Ferrari either if that helps

My issue with LBC is it's all about ratings so you have shows designed to attract both sides with little balance in either of them....:fist:

Wasn't aimed at you. Loads of people don't like him, and to be fair, I only really liked him when it came to brexit because he was spot on. He's far too much of a superior centrist for my liking.

[The Slim Reaper]

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Your team having a good day out.

[Cherie]

They really are the ugliest of humanity

[Cherie]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/13/12/29562524-8416897-image-a-136_1592046263618.jpg


More spreading Covid-19

We are well beyond that now, lets forget it and move on

[Kizzy]

As ye sow...

[Tom4784]

Racists defending a racist's statue.

It's fine to respect Churchill's leadership during the war but the truth is that, while he was a good war time leader, he was a repulsive man. I'd rather acknowledge both sides of a person then hide the parts of them that are uncomfortable to see and hear about.

These people are a good example of why hero worship is a terrible thing, especially when it comes to historical figures who were divisive as ****.

[Oliver_W]

A few idiots? This is the culmination of a concerted effort by media and politicians who've dog whistled British superiority into action, leading to a racist brexit and what we're seeing today.

These are not the same as people who have had to fight injustice all their lives. These people have been fed their anger and frustrations by Johnson and farage, and used for their own ends.

:joker:

We live in the UK, what lifelong injustice do young people face?

[The Slim Reaper]

:joker:

We live in the UK, what lifelong injustice do young people face?

Is this real life?

[Oliver_W]

Is this real life?

Is this just fantasy?

Sure is for those who seem think it's still the 1800s...

[The Slim Reaper]

Is this just fantasy?

Sure is for those who seem think it's still the 1800s...

Brought to you by the man who said refugees should be allowed to drown...

Inequality has ended according to Oliver, so tell BLM and the gallahads to go home.

[Oliver_W]

Brought to you by the man who said refugees should be allowed to drown...

Inequality has ended according to Oliver, so tell BLM and the gallahads to go home.

So what inequality is there?

[Tom4784]

And there was me thinking we weren't meant to judge groups based on a few idiots.

When the entire group has literally been caught on camera chanting about how racist and proud they are then it's fine to judge. Plus, it's known that many of the people stirring up trouble with BLM protests are right wing people posing as Antifa.

A whole crowd chanting that they are racist is not a case of a 'few idiots', the entire group are idiots.

EDIT: That video was faked but the increasing videos of white chavs attacking people and basically looking for a fight are not.

[The Slim Reaper]

So what inequality is there?

You challenged me, so please explain to all of us why and how inequality has been dealt with.


In theory if I can point to any post 19th century example of sustained inequality then your whole argument would fall away? Right?

I'll just start off simple and go with the special patrol groups of the 60's, 70's, and 80's, that were known for dragging black men off the streets to give them a hiding in the back of their police vans.

[Oliver_W]

You challenged me, so please explain to all of us why and how inequality has been dealt with.


In theory if I can point to any post 19th century example of sustained inequality then your whole argument would fall away? Right?

I'll just start off simple and go with the special patrol groups of the 60's, 70's, and 80's, that were known for dragging black men off the streets to give them a hiding in the back of their police vans.

So we have to go back to between the 1800s and the 1980s to find things for current people to protest about? It looks like a lot of them weren't even born then.

[The Slim Reaper]

So we have to go back to between the 1800s and the 1980s to find things for current people to protest about? It looks like a lot of them weren't even born then.

Said i'd start off simple in a way that collapsed your whole argument. Windrush? Is that current enough?

[Oliver_W]

Said i'd start off simple in a way that collapsed your whole argument. Windrush? Is that current enough?

Yeah the Windrush thing was a bit dodgy. It shouldn't have happened. But it's also one thing, it's not proof of anything wider reaching.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yeah the Windrush thing was a bit dodgy. It shouldn't have happened. But it's also one thing, it's not proof of anything wider reaching.

If systemic and targeted racism can be brushed off as a "bit dodgy," then I agree with you, inequality doesn't exist.

[arista]

Your team having a good day out.


For the Last Time
nothing to do with me


I post everything
I am honest

[The Slim Reaper]

For the Last Time
nothing to do with me


I post everything
I am honest

I agree, you are honest.

[Tom4784]

Yeah the Windrush thing was a bit dodgy. It shouldn't have happened. But it's also one thing, it's not proof of anything wider reaching.

So you get provided with examples, one you try to pass off as not being recent enough despite you getting blown up not long ago in another topic for failing to understand how a history of racism can affect the present and when you do get faced with a modern example that you can't refute, you instead try to downplay it as 'a bit dodgy' and make out that it's okay because it's 'one thing'.

Don't ask for answers for questions you obviously don't want to hear.

[arista]

Starbucks Yesterday told staff
not to have BLM Clothes on.

But then a backlash
Today they said they are making BLM gear for their Staff.


CNN HD Smerconish

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/13/13/29564226-8416897-image-a-186_1592051872472.jpg
[Protesters gather in support of the Black Lives Matter movement
for a protest action in Hyde Park]

[user104658]

Starbucks Yesterday told staff
not to have BLM Clothes on.

But then a backlash
Today they said they are making BLM gear for their Staff.


CNN HD Smerconish:joker: Starbucks are masters of folding to a bit of social media pressure.

"No you can't do that"
"Umm we will stop buying coffee from u"
"WAIT hold on hold on hold on how can we help you? We LOVE what you are doing. We will do it FOR you."

Not that I'm saying they should have disallowed BLM stuff, I just find their total lack of resolve on all issues amusing.

[GiRTh]

3tR6mKcBbT4
The Chris Dorner bit :clap1:

"We saw ourselves like you saw yourselves” - Dave Chapelle

[Denver]

27 year old Rayshard Brooks was murded by police in Atlanta last night, he is the latest black man to be killed by police

[Denver]

He was murdered after taken a police taser and running away, a taser is not a life threatening weapon so no matter what they should never shoot to kill

[Ashley.]

Don’t be condescending by telling people to educate themselves.

Lots try and use the fact that woman’s rights and gays rights as an example of how change will come by getting yourself out in the public eye.

Racism is a far deeper divide but change will come if the people that we vote into power have no choice but to make laws that protect ethnic minority’s because the overwhelming voice from the people is we want the law changed.

As soon as protesters show violence and start attacking businesses and the police all the momentum is lost and we are back to square one.

All good people don’t want violence and vandalism on the streets so that the empathy they felt for the cause is replaced by anger.

It’s people in suits that use pens that change life’s not those in hoodies carrying improvised weapons.

Are black people not good people for wishing for change after centuries of mistreatment? It seems as though you have completely missed my point if you believe that 'people in suits' will change the world, because that has rarely been the case in similar situations in the past. People will rebel until they are listened to, in the same vein children will cry until they are fed. As I said before - human nature.

Change does not happen because people 'wait patiently' or 'ask' for it' - it happens because people fight for it. And you'll have an extremely difficult time trying to convincing me otherwise.

[arista]

27 year old Rayshard Brooks was murded by police in Atlanta last night, he is the latest black man to be killed by police


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/A15D/production/_112890314_hi061942654.jpg

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53037953


Yes
A Wendys Burgers Drive through ,
is now on Fire
The place it went on in the car park.

Atlanta Police Chief & Mayor
have resigned.



[It had started late on Friday night when police
were called to reports of a man sleeping
in a car and blocking a drive-thru lane at a Wendy's restaurant.
The bureau's director, Vic Reynolds,
said Mr Brooks had grabbed a Taser from
one officer and pointed it towards him as he ran.
After running a short distance,
Mr Brooks "turns around and it appears to
the eye that he points the Taser
at the Atlanta officer", Mr Reynolds said,
in comments reported by NBC.
"At that point, the Atlanta officer reaches
down and retrieves his weapon from his holster,
discharges it, strikes Mr Brooks there
on the parking lot, and he goes down."]

https://news.sky.com/story/atlanta-police-chief-resigns-after-fatal-shooting-of-black-man-by-officer-12006386

[thesheriff443]

Are black people not good people for wishing for change after centuries of mistreatment? It seems as though you have completely missed my point if you believe that 'people in suits' will change the world, because that has rarely been the case in similar situations in the past. People will rebel until they are listened to, in the same vein children will cry until they are fed. As I said before - human nature.

Change does not happen because people 'wait patiently' or 'ask' for it' - it happens because people fight for it. And you'll have an extremely difficult time trying to convincing me otherwise.

I think you have missed my point.
I’m not trying to convince you, because your opinion is your opinion.

Protest’s work when the cause makes the news not the fact violence and vandalism where used at the protest.

People recently celebrated VE Day for people then to attack Churchill who is probably the most admired prime minister in this countries history will get people’s backs up.

He came from a time when that’s how people viewed the word

You can’t rewrite history and it should be left as an example of the wrong doings
That have happened.

Smashing a window will get you noticed but it won’t change someone’s life for the better.

Only when the laws get passed does real change happen.

[bots]

violence and property damage were a means of attracting attention in the past as it was the only way to get the news that something was happening on the front page of the papers. That simply does not apply now.

The only way to change things is to change the consensus view, and that wont be achieved through violence and destruction

[thesheriff443]

violence and property damage were a means of attracting attention in the past as it was the only way to get the news that something was happening on the front page of the papers. That simply does not apply now.

The only way to change things is to change the consensus view, and that wont be achieved through violence and destruction

We are on the same page.

[Kazanne]

violence and property damage were a means of attracting attention in the past as it was the only way to get the news that something was happening on the front page of the papers. That simply does not apply now.

The only way to change things is to change the consensus view, and that wont be achieved through violence and destruction

Exactly.

[joeysteele]

violence and property damage were a means of attracting attention in the past as it was the only way to get the news that something was happening on the front page of the papers. That simply does not apply now.

The only way to change things is to change the consensus view, and that wont be achieved through violence and destruction

How do you achieve that however when you have those in power dismissing or only paying lip service to arising issues.
So ignore petitions and currently even their own all party select committees.

Con or Lab or even the coalition.
These issues have been swept under the carpet and largely ignored.
Even moreso under this power mad lot in now.

From Labour in 2005 taking power with barely 36% of the vote.
The major so called parties, barely take 75% of the votes between them.
That means 25% of voters don't even vote for either main party..
I in 4 voters.

Yet one or the other gets absolute power, to ride over and ignore serious issues like race and even the massive social injustices.

In the light of that ignorance from those supposedly in power to serve, no matter which party it is in power,even in local authority settings too, how do you get things that should be, changed and put right.

Everyone has 2 ears and one mouth, as the saying goes.
Which means, even moreso to those in power, we should be listening twice as much as we are talking.

[The Slim Reaper]

I think you have missed my point.
I’m not trying to convince you, because your opinion is your opinion.

Protest’s work when the cause makes the news not the fact violence and vandalism where used at the protest.

People recently celebrated VE Day for people then to attack Churchill who is probably the most admired prime minister in this countries history will get people’s backs up.

He came from a time when that’s how people viewed the word

You can’t rewrite history and it should be left as an example of the wrong doings
That have happened.

Smashing a window will get you noticed but it won’t change someone’s life for the better.

Only when the laws get passed does real change happen.

People of grenfell have been protesting since it happened. The only violence was committed by the government and the cladding companies. They have pretty much 100% public support, and they've achieved nothing.

The cladding still exists, people are still homeless, governmental friends have avoided charges, so protests don't necessarily work when the things you say need to happen, actually happen.

Protests are supposed to be disruptive.

[joeysteele]

People of grenfell have been protesting since it happened. The only violence was committed by the government and the cladding companies. They have pretty much 100% public support, and they've achieved nothing.

The cladding still exists, people are still homeless, governmental friends have avoided charges, so protests don't necessarily work when the things you say need to happen, actually happen.

Protests are supposed to be disruptive.


Exactly right.

[GiRTh]

People of grenfell have been protesting since it happened. The only violence was committed by the government and the cladding companies. They have pretty much 100% public support, and they've achieved nothing.

The cladding still exists, people are still homeless, governmental friends have avoided charges, so protests don't necessarily work when the things you say need to happen, actually happen.

Protests are supposed to be disruptive.
:clap1:

Same as the Windrush generation. Even with almost univeral public support, so little has been done.

The Windrush generation deserves justice – not video chats with the home secretary (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/12/windrush-generation-justioce)

[Oliver_W]

The cladding thing being treated like a race-battle is odd, anyone can end up in a crappy block of flats. Of course all buildings with that cladding should be sorted out, and those rendered homeless by the fire should be given new homes, but there's no need to make it a race thing?

[The Slim Reaper]

The cladding thing being treated like a race-battle is odd, anyone can end up in a crappy block of flats. Of course all buildings with that cladding should be sorted out, and those rendered homeless by the fire should be given new homes, but there's no need to make it a race thing?

Wasn't made a race battle, I made it a justice and protest thing. It's actually widely about class and I can prove it really easily. If the grenfell fire had happened to the gherkin, do you think the cladding on all similar structures would have been replaced by now? Would it be functional again, or would it have been pulled down by now with a replacement building already being erected, and would the people renting office space have been relocated by now?

[Oliver_W]

Wasn't made a race battle, I made it a justice and protest thing. It's actually widely about class and I can prove it really easily. If the grenfell fire had happened to the gherkin, do you think the cladding on all similar structures would have been replaced by now? Would it be functional again, or would it have been pulled down by now with a replacement building already being erected, and would the people renting office space have been relocated by now?

That's different because the Gherkin is full of multi-million pound businesses, whereas people only lived in Grenfel :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

That's different because the Gherkin is full of multi-million pound businesses, whereas people only lived in Grenfel :laugh:

Exactly, so it's about class.

[user104658]

Wasn't made a race battle, I made it a justice and protest thing. It's actually widely about class and I can prove it really easily. If the grenfell fire had happened to the gherkin, do you think the cladding on all similar structures would have been replaced by now? Would it be functional again, or would it have been pulled down by now with a replacement building already being erected, and would the people renting office space have been relocated by now?To be fair, all of it is a class battle, however race and class are intricately interwoven so a race battle can be a class battle and a class battle can become a race battle. Mostly because race is the easiest way for people to automatically assume class. They dont discriminate because someone is black, they discriminate because they think they are lesser (classist). But, they make the assumption that they are likely to be lesser because they are black (racist).

There are of course a small number of flat-out biological race supremacists, but when it comes down to it, for the vast majority of casual racists the feeling of superiority is socioeconomic, and the racist part is the assumption of socioeconomic status through physical appearance.

[Liam-]

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[user104658]

An easy illustration I guess, is that in most "racist white areas", if they saw a black celebrity (let's say Will Smith) hopping out of their expensive car in the street, they would be over the ****ing moon, telling him how much they love his movies, pestering for an autograph. They don't care that he's a black man - they KNOW he has enhanced social status. They wouldn't prefer it to be a white celebrity. Certainly not a lower-status white celebrity.

If they saw a black man they've never seen before they'd call the police. Because they're racist, yes, in assuming that an unknown black man is likely to be a criminal - and that's the part they hate/fear.

[The Slim Reaper]

To be fair, all of it is a class battle, however race and class are intricately interwoven so a race battle can be a class battle and a class battle can become a race battle. Mostly because race is the easiest way for people to automatically assume class. They dont discriminate because someone is black, they discriminate because they think they are lesser (classist). But, they make the assumption that they are likely to be lesser because they are black (racist).

There are of course a small number of flat-out biological race supremacists, but when it comes down to it, for the vast majority of casual racists the feeling of superiority is socioeconomic, and the racist part is the assumption of socioeconomic status through physical appearance.

Not sure I agree entirely. Making poor people fight and blame each other regardless of colour is absolutely a genuine strategy, but I still think poor people from minorities are viewed as "lower" than poor whites. At least societally.

It's the difference that is always highlighted; the weird clothes, the stupid names, ramadamadingdong, overbreeding etc. They're always painted as having nefarious intentions, so blacks always wanted your daughters, muslims want to take over our country and rule us, coming for our jobs etc. There is a distinction between the classism that incorporates everyone and the racism that doesn't.

[Liam-]

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Fair trade

[Kizzy]

The cladding thing being treated like a race-battle is odd, anyone can end up in a crappy block of flats. Of course all buildings with that cladding should be sorted out, and those rendered homeless by the fire should be given new homes, but there's no need to make it a race thing?

Ok let's make it a class thing, if it were flats that MPS live in would they be on the position the tenants of Grenfell are?

[Marsh.]

:joker: Starbucks are masters of folding to a bit of social media pressure.

"No you can't do that"
"Umm we will stop buying coffee from u"
"WAIT hold on hold on hold on how can we help you? We LOVE what you are doing. We will do it FOR you."

Not that I'm saying they should have disallowed BLM stuff, I just find their total lack of resolve on all issues amusing.

Yep, you can't do anything.... unless it has the Starbucks branding on.

[Zizu]

What’s going on with Sky and their headlines?
They have a moving banner saying a Black guy who had fallen asleep in his car was shot and killed by police .. yet I’ve read elsewhere that he was drunk , resisted arrest , fought two cops off and managed to get hold of one of their tasers , pointed it at the cop who then reacted by shooting him dead .

It’s an awful story and at worst I’d have expected the cop to shoot to immobilise the guy rather than killing ... but the Sky headline seems misleading IF what I read about the incident was correct


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[Kizzy]

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Fair trade

YES!!! This needs to happen :)

[Glenn.]

Why is there even a statue of a KKK leader?

[arista]

Why is there even a statue of a KKK leader?

It goes back before we were all born.

USA was once under our Control.

[Brother Leon]

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What an absolute disgrace.

[Oliver_W]

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The movement itself is trash.

[Beso]

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What an absolute disgrace.

What london riots is this then?

[Ashley.]

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The movement itself is trash.

This was very clearly created with the sole purpose of incriminating the BLM movement. Luckily, most are clever enough not to fall for this kind of propaganda... I hope.

[The Slim Reaper]

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The movement itself is trash.

Would be if this was genuine.

[Oliver_W]

This was very clearly created with the sole purpose of incriminating the BLM movement. Luckily, most are clever enough not to fall for this kind of propaganda... I hope.

Would be if this was genuine.

Yeah, they're such a peaceful and tolerant movement.

[Ashley.]

Yeah, they're such a peaceful and tolerant movement.

I can't believe we've been wasting our time protesting, when all we really needed to do was relax on our sun loungers and tolerate it until it stops!

[Oliver_W]

I can't believe we've been wasting our time protesting, when all we really needed to do was relax on our sun loungers and tolerate it until it stops!

What's "it" ?

How will violence solve "it" ?

[Cherie]

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What an absolute disgrace.

Do we know there was no consequence for EDL twat?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I can't believe we've been wasting our time protesting, when all we really needed to do was relax on our sun loungers and tolerate it until it stops!

Who is we and where have you been protesting?

[Ashley.]

Who is we and where have you been protesting?

Bit personal LT. :hmph:

[Liam-]

Yeah, they're such a peaceful and tolerant movement.

Yes it is

[Oliver_W]

Yes it is

As demonstrated by all of their peaceful protests which never descend into rioting.

[Marsh.]

Oliver who didn't know racism existed until last week? Please.

[Liam-]

As demonstrated by all of their peaceful protests which never descend into rioting.

If you actually look at all of their protests, they were largely peaceful, of course there were some scuffles here and there, but the protests were never violent until the police started attacking and rioting always started after the actual protests had finished and dispersed, the movement is peaceful and inclusive, they can’t be blamed for any shenanigans that happens afterwards

[Marsh.]

If you actually look at all of their protests, they were largely peaceful, of course there were some scuffles here and there, but the protests were never violent until the police started attacking and rioting always started after the actual protests had finished and dispersed, the movement is peaceful and inclusive, they can’t be blamed for any shenanigans that happens afterwards

But why are the black people morphing into pot-bellied middle-aged white men with Britain First t-shirts, why don't they stop that. :(

[Liam-]

And I find it laughable that the people are pretending to ‘lose sympathy’ for the cause, of you can lose sympathy for a protest against racism, then you never had any to start with sorry, then there are the ‘ugh, these protesters are just making it worse, they’re gonna make more people racist!’ types, alright pals.

[Oliver_W]

And I find it laughable that the people are pretending to ‘lose sympathy’ for the cause, of you can lose sympathy for a protest against racism, then you never had any to start with sorry, then there are the ‘ugh, these protesters are just making it worse, they’re gonna make more people racist!’ types, alright pals.

Things aren't bad enough in the UK to warrant the levels of protest we've been getting.

[Marsh.]

Things aren't bad enough in the UK to warrant the levels of protest we've been getting.

And you're qualified to make that daft claim?

Just how much is "enough"?

[Brother Leon]

What london riots is this then?

Can’t speak for the Facist, but Digga went to the Parliament Square peaceful protest.

[Beso]

14 days jail for urinating in public...for a white bloke.

[Beso]

Can’t speak for the Facist, but Digga went to the Parliament Square peaceful protest.

There was no riots.

[arista]

14 days jail for urinating in public...for a white bloke.


Yes he had no idea
after drinking so much.

[Cherie]

14 days jail for urinating in public...for a white bloke.

His Dad said he thought he was going to a BLM march, and the young lad (28) didn't realise where he was peeing.

He is a TH supporter so one of the football lads, you would think he would know better given the Club he supports

[joeysteele]

I think this is more about making an example of someone.
The law does come up with some odd sentences at times.

Then again we don't know if there were other things that influenced this sentence.

He must have had poor legal representation, he didn't actually urinate on the memorial.

I'd guess myself, with the location of it being where it is, it will have had a fair bit of attention of Dogs out with their owners.

I thought a heavy fine would come not a custodial.
Surprised I am.
However in the current volatile high tensioned climate, maybe I shouldn't be.

[bots]

urinating in the street is an offence ... exposing ones private parts in public is an offence so if the guy had some previous history, a short custodial sentence wouldn't be unreasonable

[joeysteele]

urinating in the street is an offence ... exposing ones private parts in public is an offence so if the guy had some previous history, a short custodial sentence wouldn't be unreasonable

We, who work in law sometimes cannot get muggers locked up, or even serious shoplifters.

It is an offence and of course we don't know if he had previous history.
I can only assume he has however, and that you're on the right track in that for him to get a custodial.

If anyone thinks, especially at present, with Stores being closed, virtually few or even no public toilets, well,public toilets aren't open anyway during this lockdown, however if anyone thinks people aren't left right and centre, relieving themselves in public places..
They'd be sadly mistaken.

In fact Mr Cummings on his sight testing drive had to stop for his son's toilet break in the open, well bushes.
He says.
( Couldn't resist that sorry).

[bots]

We, who work in law sometimes cannot get muggers locked up, or even serious shoplifters.

It is an offence and of course we don't know if he had previous history.
I can only assume he has however, and that you're on the right track in that for him to get a custodial.

If anyone thinks, especially at present, with Stores being closed, virtually few or even no public toilets, well,public toilets aren't open anyway during this lockdown, however if anyone thinks people aren't left right and centre, relieving themselves in public places..
They'd be sadly mistaken.

In fact Mr Cummings on his sight testing drive had to stop for his son's toilet break in the open, well bushes.
He says.
( Couldn't resist that sorry).

the guy apparently had drunk something like 16 pints the night before and was still drunk, so, add drunk and disorderly into the mix too ....

I remember my brother in his youth got caught having a pee down a side street and he got a night in a cell and a fine for a first offence

[The Slim Reaper]

Seems like a ridiculous sentence to me. No one should be sent to prison for having a pee, even in the streets, and even if he'd pee'd directly onto the memorial.

Seems like they're trying to send a message about the crazy sentences that will follow before it's all over.

Could have been the perfect opportunity to utilise community service. Send him to work with a minority charity for a couple of weeks, but no one benefits from him being in prison.

[Beso]

Seems like a ridiculous sentence to me. No one should be sent to prison for having a pee, even in the streets, and even if he'd pee'd directly onto the memorial.

Seems like they're trying to send a message about the crazy sentences that will follow before it's all over.

Could have been the perfect opportunity to utilise community service. Send him to work with a minority charity for a couple of weeks, but no one benefits from him being in prison.



Absolutely..

[joeysteele]

Seems like a ridiculous sentence to me. No one should be sent to prison for having a pee, even in the streets, and even if he'd pee'd directly onto the memorial.

Seems like they're trying to send a message about the crazy sentences that will follow before it's all over.

Could have been the perfect opportunity to utilise community service. Send him to work with a minority charity for a couple of weeks, but no one benefits from him being in prison.

I fully agree.

It can be assumed he had previous but in the absence of that as a fact, we can't apply that with certainty, this sentence is in my view, a 'making an example of'exercise.

As you say community service would have been far more appropriate.

[Cherie]

They are sending a message, if he got community service it would be too soft

His life is basically ruined, he is an unemployed chef who will take him on now?

[The Slim Reaper]

I fully agree.

It can be assumed he had previous but in the absence of that as a fact, we can't apply that with certainty, this sentence is in my view, a 'making an example of'exercise.

As you say community service would have been far more appropriate.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/15/man-given-14-day-jail-sentence-for-urinating-near-pc-keith-palmer-plaque

He has no previous.

He added: “[Banks] simply did not know what he was urinating on. He has never been in trouble before. He says he has been battling with alcohol after a 10-year relationship came to an end. He was suffering from mental health issues.”

[joeysteele]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/15/man-given-14-day-jail-sentence-for-urinating-near-pc-keith-palmer-plaque

He has no previous.

I've just been texted that from a friend, thank you too Slim.

Really is too severe.
Sadly these inconsistencies happen.
No reason for a custodial, it is making an example of him.

Other than in the climate of these protests happening, no way would it have been the sentence.
Harsh in my view

[The Slim Reaper]

I've just been texted that from a friend, thank you too Slim.

Really is too severe.
Sadly these inconsistencies happen.
No reason for a custodial, it is making an example of him.

Other than in the climate of these protests happening, no way would it have been the sentence.
Harsh in my view

Are we not friends, Joey?

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Have they identified the street louts who threw the Bristol statue in the harbour.hopefuy they will get a longer sentence?

[Beso]

I mean the idiot even handed himself in to the police, yet all media and politicians praising the police for their swift actions in finding the culprit.

Politics should never, ever come Into the judicial system, but its obvious that it has this time.a

[bots]

back on topic and new video that i don't know if it has been posted yet, but it's ****ing ridiculous ... the police need to go away for a long time

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[Marsh.]

28 is a bit old to be blaming it on a night on the drink. :joker:

[user104658]

back on topic and new video that i don't know if it has been posted yet, but it's ****ing ridiculous ... the police need to go away for a long time

********* not for the sensitive *********************

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He's still kneeling on him when he's quite blatantly already dead. Ffs. The sort of mindset that would be required to do that is really quite terrifying.

[joeysteele]

Are we not friends, Joey?

https://media3.giphy.com/media/l22ysLe54hZP0wubek/giphy.gif

:joker: oops I'm so sorry Slim.

I'll rephrase it.

I've just had another friend text me that.

Really sorry, of course we are Slim and I'm glad we are.

[Oliver_W]

That's not what they meant by #TakeTheKnee :mad:

[bots]

He's still kneeling on him when he's quite blatantly already dead. Ffs. The sort of mindset that would be required to do that is really quite terrifying.

one of the policemen's lawyers said if there was a problem, why didn't the public say anything, so that's why this video was released

[The Slim Reaper]

:joker: oops I'm so sorry Slim.

I'll rephrase it.

I've just had another friend text me that.

Really sorry, of course we are Slim and I'm glad we are.

It's all good, I knew what you meant. :laugh:

[Brother Leon]

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The movement itself is trash.

I’m not sure if at this rate you are just extremely gullible or just desperate to find anyway to belittle a cause for equality.

[Denver]

back on topic and new video that i don't know if it has been posted yet, but it's ****ing ridiculous ... the police need to go away for a long time

********* not for the sensitive *********************

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Well the lawyer for one of them is using the defence that it's the lublics fault and they should tackle officers with armed weapons

[arista]

California
2 black men found hanging from a Tree

First ruled as suicides
but now a differed cause of death.

CNN HD Live

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/13/us/palmdale-man-found-dead/index.html

[Denver]

They were lynchings that are being covered up

[Zizu]

California
2 black men found hanging from a Tree

First ruled as suicides
but now a differed cause of death.

CNN HD Live

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/13/us/palmdale-man-found-dead/index.html



That link took me to a story that only mentions one poor guy and doesn’t suggest anything suspicious... ..




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[Zizu]

They were lynchings that are being covered up



Do you know that for certain ??


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[arista]

They were lynchings that are being covered up


Yes they need to prove it.

[Denver]

Do you know that for certain ??


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They didnt seal the area off when they should have

They said there is no cameras around when there is

They quickly ruled a suicide without any proof of tread marks or how he got up there or DNA or anything

[Zizu]

I wasn’t too comfortable with seeing Rayshard Brooks’s cousin just saying that anyone wanting to help the family financially should do so though him ...


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[Zizu]

They didnt seal the area off when they should have



They said there is no cameras around when there is



They quickly ruled a suicide without any proof of tread marks or how he got up there or DNA or anything


Do we know that for certain though . .. that all sounds like passed on rumours


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[Beso]

I feel sick.

[arista]

That link took me to a story that only mentions one poor guy and doesn’t suggest anything suspicious... ..




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It's the only link I could find
On the live TV News they Confirmed it was sadly
2 Black Men hanged

[Zizu]

It's the only link I could find

On the live TV News they Confirmed it was sadly

2 Black Men hanged



Well one is terrible but TWO just looks suspicious ..


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[Denver]

Do we know that for certain though . .. that all sounds like passed on rumours


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The police themselves said there was no cameras but people in the area have show proof of at least 4 cameras pointing directly at the area

[Zizu]

The police themselves said there was no cameras but people in the area have show proof of at least 4 cameras pointing directly at the area



Fair enough ... although some CCTV cameras don’t work and haven’t done for ages ... some aren’t even monitored .. same apples to some speed cameras as well apparently


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[Oliver_W]

I feel sick.

Don't feel sick, it gets stuck under your nails!

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Brother Leon]

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What an absolute disgrace.

Looks like this isn’t even an isolated incident now.

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What a country we live in when you can’t even legally protest without the threat of prison.

[Kizzy]

We have reached peak capitalism, industry is outsourced, jobs are automated, prisoners exploited. New world order.

[Beso]

Looks like this isn’t even an isolated incident now.

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What a country we live in when you can’t even legally protest without the threat of prison.

He was on licence from jail, perhaps for inciting violence at protests or something else...

If that's correct well done the police for monitoring suspects and possible breach of conditions of his licence.

[Brother Leon]

He was on licence from jail, perhaps for inciting violence at protests or something else...

If that's correct well done the police for monitoring suspects and possible breach of conditions of his licence.

I never knew being on probation meant that you can’t legally protest or discuss political issues.

It’s bull**** and just an attempt to try and silence whatever black men with a platform that they can through the fear of sending them back to prison.

[bots]

Being out on license does come with conditions. For me, quoting examples of convicted criminals trying to stir up trouble, does not help the cause

[Crimson Dynamo]

I never knew being on probation meant that you can’t legally protest or discuss political issues.

It’s bull**** and just an attempt to try and silence whatever black men with a platform that they can through the fear of sending them back to prison.

No it's the law

[Oliver_W]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EagRSZlWsAAP3H8?format=jpg&name=medium

I wonder who they'll replace him with ... Mao? Stalin?

Yes, I know it's a joke.

[user104658]

Yes, I know it's a joke.

I was worried for a second...

[Niamh.]

Literally read that article about 10 times thinking, am I missing something? :laugh2:

[Cherie]

A police dispatcher who was watching George Floyd's arrest in real time became so alarmed that she called a supervisor, according to a recording of the call.
The unnamed female dispatcher is heard saying: "I don't know, you can call me a snitch if you want to, but we have the cameras up for [squad] 320's call, and… I don't know if they had to use force or not, but they got something out of the back of the squad, and all of them sat on this man.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/police-dispatcher-who-watched-george-floyd-arrest-called-supervisor/ar-BB15xeOc?ocid=spartanntp

[arista]

[If I said don't shop in black-owned stores I'd have been crucified': Tyson Fury
blasts Anthony Joshua's 'bulls***' Black Lives Matter speech
and says 'colour doesn't exist' as rivals prepare for 2021 showdown]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-8425483/Tyson-Fury-blasts-Anthony-Joshuas-bull-Black-Lives-Matter-speech.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Come on Tyson

[arista]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=62&v=N4uM1DX4wZM&feature=emb_logo

Bill O'Reilly takes down far-Left radio host


[Bill O'Reilly argues with Rashad Richey,
a radio host from Atlanta,
about the Black Lives Matter
movement and what it gets wrong.]

Bill's Family History
goes back to Ireland,
at least he accepts how we
British treated them
was set at that time.

[arista]

A Long New report
was on BBCnewsHD.

Floyd was in that store
with his mates, using Counterfeit 20 dollar bills
they always call the Police in that store.
The Police arrived went to the car they were all in.

Floyd was the only one pulled out of that car
his criminal mates got away with that crime.

He was put in the Police Car
but said he was claustrophobic
but he had no trouble in the other car?


That Ex-Police Man
that killed him.
And will go to Jail.

[Cherie]

[If I said don't shop in black-owned stores I'd have been crucified': Tyson Fury
blasts Anthony Joshua's 'bulls***' Black Lives Matter speech
and says 'colour doesn't exist' as rivals prepare for 2021 showdown]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-8425483/Tyson-Fury-blasts-Anthony-Joshuas-bull-Black-Lives-Matter-speech.html

Tyson :clap1:

Interesting comparisons there and every one spot on

[thesheriff443]

Joshua Was only there because his limo driver took a wrong turn.

Hand Joshua a contract and he will sign it, thinking it’s an autograph opportunity.

Valuable lesson, don’t read out other people’s opinion.

[arista]

USA: Quaker Oats to change Name & Image
of Aunt Jemma Brand

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200617071318-01-aunt-jemima-file-exlarge-169.jpg


CNN HD
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/17/business/aunt-jemima-logo-change/index.html


Poor old Aunt Jemma
being removed..........................

[Cherie]

USA: Quaker Oats to change Name & Image
of Aunt Jemma Brand

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200617071318-01-aunt-jemima-file-exlarge-169.jpg


CNN HD
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/17/business/aunt-jemima-logo-change/index.html


Poor old Aunt Jemma
being removed..........................

why?

[arista]

why?


All she is
a Black Auntie.


Not a Slave

[Cherie]

All she is
a Black Auntie.


Not a Slave

what about the Quaker Man on the Oats, is he going too?



just read the article its due to it being linked with Minstral song which is fair enough I suppose

[arista]

what about the Quaker Man on the Oats, is he going too?



just read the article its due to it being linked with Minstral song which is fair enough I suppose



No he is a Scotsman
in a dress

[arista]

poor old Uncle Ben
is predicted to be the next Rush to Change?


CNN HD Live


https://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/img/large/CLEN1554.jpg

[Beso]

Have the police made any arrests regarding the attempted murder of the white guy that the black guy was carrying on his shoulder?

Are they even trying?

[arista]

Have the police made any arrests regarding the attempted murder of the white guy that the black guy was carrying on his shoulder?

Are they even trying?


No.

They are not trying

[Kizzy]

Have the police made any arrests regarding the attempted murder of the white guy that the black guy was carrying on his shoulder?

Are they even trying?

It wasn't attempted murder so no.

[Beso]

It wasn't attempted murder so no.

That's not what the bloke that carried him to safety said.

[The Slim Reaper]

why?

There's a more complicated back story than the one Arista is portraying. The model used is a former slave. Aunt jemima was a common colloquialism for a female slave, and there is a dodgy back story to the owner and founder that I can't remember but I seem to think he may have been a former slave holder (could be wrong).

[Cherie]

poor old Uncle Ben
is predicted to be the next Rush to Change?


CNN HD Live


https://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/img/large/CLEN1554.jpg

Uncle Parmy?

[Cherie]

There's a more complicated back story than the one Arista is portraying. The model used is a former slave. Aunt jemima was a common colloquialism for a female slave, and there is a dodgy back story to the owner and founder that I can't remember but I seem to think he may have been a former slave holder (could be wrong).

oh right, that makes sense

[bots]

i think there will be loads of stuff in America that relates back to the slave days, now is the time to sort it out

[Crimson Dynamo]

The BLM movement defaced a statue to Robert the Bruce in Stirling. Saying the 12th century figure was a racist. Can you spot the slight error?

:facepalm:

[Beso]

Uncle Parmy?

That needs some pea.

[arista]

There's a more complicated back story than the one Arista is portraying. The model used is a former slave. Aunt jemima was a common colloquialism for a female slave, and there is a dodgy back story to the owner and founder that I can't remember but I seem to think he may have been a former slave holder (could be wrong).


Sure it was around 100 years old
Design.


What about poor old Uncle Ben?
Will he be next ?

[arista]

Uncle Parmy?


Depends
has the bugger been arrested
in his Younger days?

[Beso]

Depends
has the bugger been arrested
in his Younger days?



I'm taking the 5th

[The Slim Reaper]

Sure it was around 100 years old
Design.


What about poor old Uncle Ben?
Will he be next ?

I don't really lose much sleep over colonial packaging.

[arista]

I don't really lose much sleep over colonial packaging.

Sure

But BLM are going after Owners of Uncle Ben.


I mean KFC is a Real Old fella
but White - so no problem etc.

[The Slim Reaper]

Sure

But BLM are going after Owners of Uncle Ben.


I mean KFC is a Real Old fella
but White - so no problem etc.

Why would it be a problem? Not really the color on it's own that's the issue, Antifa/BLM weren't around when golliwogs were removed from jam jars.

[Liam-]

It’s happening lads

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[Cherie]

It’s happening lads

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Is the Scholarship going as well?

[Cherie]

Sure it was around 100 years old
Design.


What about poor old Uncle Ben?
Will he be next ?

Tbf Uncle Ben is recognised by its orange packaging rather than the image so just take it off

[smudgie]

Is the Scholarship going as well?

Hopefully they will divert the money to open more schools in Sothern Africa, that’s where the money originated from.

[Kizzy]

But what about the money... That's what's really important.

[Cherie]

Hopefully they will divert the money to open more schools in Sothern Africa, that’s where the money originated from.

Hope so, they can’t in all conscience take the scholarship if they remove the statue, at least I hope not

[Beso]

It’s happening lads

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Awww, he was a good chef.

[arista]

But what about the money... That's what's really important.


Yes already Donators are withdrawing funds
One a Conservative MP Daniel Hannan
has said no more money

[arista]

CNN HD Live

USA: Mars who own Uncle Ben Rice brand
confirmed they are to remove the image and change the Design
in the next few months.

[arista]

[Lloyd's of London and Greene King
apologise for slave trade links
The companies pledge to make large
donations to race equality charities
over historic roles in the salve trade centuries ago.]

https://e3.365dm.com/20/06/768x432/skynews-lloyds-of-london-greene-king_5016183.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20200618080744

https://news.sky.com/story/lloyds-of-london-and-greene-king-apologise-for-slave-trade-links-12009342

[arista]

bi2slPVKrw8

Drums - Harvey Mason
Electric Piano , Synthesizer, Organ - Johnny Hammond
Guitars - Craig McMullen, John Rowin
Bass - Chuck Rainey
Clavinet Keyboard - Fonze Mizzell
Flutes - Roger Glenn
Violin- Michael White
Acoustic Piano - Jerry Peters
Percussion- Kenneth Nash
Tenor Sax - Hadley Caliman
Trombone - Julian Priester
Intro Speak - William Jordan.

July 1975



I wanted to Post the Great 1974 Track
Rhodesian Thoroughfare
but You Tube have removed it.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcS3zxlvAfh9z_ltVHejTs55O736MbK PGQJzP1Gfs1B6CrnKx2xn&usqp=CAU

[Tom4784]

'If you're gonna take away the statue, you BETTER take away the scholarship too!'

What kind of warped argument is that?!

Change it's name and find new investers if you have to, keep the benefits of the scholarship. To try to hold the chance for someone to go to Oxford who normally would be unable to hostage, in order to try to force some dog**** standard is ****ed up.

[user104658]

A tonne of scholarships are going belly up because of the "economic uncertainty" anyway.

[hijaxers]

Well its probably all gonna go off in Bristol again ! Scipio's headstone has been smashed .

Its so out of order ~ prob done by complete morons.

[arista]

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[Zizu]

Thoughts on companies paying reparation ??

Two of Britain’s biggest organizations will donate to projects benefiting ethnic minorities after an academic database highlighted their roles in slavery.

Global insurance firm Lloyd’s of London and pub chain Greene King both said they might pay after historical links to slavery were described in a University College London index,


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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Beso]

No more swing low sweet chariots

[Liam-]

They just don’t learn, that, or they just don’t care

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[arista]

Yes Liam
the Officer suspended , no pay.

No one died/

[The Slim Reaper]

The crazy part, is that these are police officers on their best behaviour. Under so much more scrutiny after George Floyd, and they're still doing what they want without fear of consequence.

Replacement rather than retraining is going to be needed.

[Liam-]

Yes Liam
the Officer suspended , no pay.

No one died/

We shouldn’t celebrate cops not killing someone

[Tom4784]

The cops in Atlanta are pretty much attempting to go on strike because they.... are outraged they can't kill people without consequences....

[Liam-]

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[Oliver_W]

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So he got into a fight during a violent protest? The police would be foolish not to search him.

[Liam-]

So he got into a fight during a violent protest? The police would be foolish not to search him.

No, he got attacked by racists

[Oliver_W]

No, he got attacked by racists

Police don't know what happened just by looking :shrug: People on both "sides" were attacking each other, how were they know to whether or not he was a victim

[Liam-]

Police don't know what happened just by looking :shrug: People on both "sides" were attacking each other, how were they know to whether or not he was a victim

He was approached and chased by men double his age, stamped on and stabbed with a glass bottle, his eyesight has been impaired due to the attack and when he was saved and escorted to the police for assistance, they decided to do a stop and search instead, I know you like to be edgy with the ‘both sides’ scenario, but this kid was attacked for no reason by two full grown racists

[The Slim Reaper]

He was approached and chased by men double his age, stamped on and stabbed with a glass bottle, his eyesight has been impaired due to the attack and when he was saved and escorted to the police for assistance, they decided to do a stop and search instead, I know you like to be edgy with the ‘both sides’ scenario, but this kid was attacked for no reason by two full grown racists

Are you sure he wasn't just headbuttting those guys feet though? You know how antifa are.

Saved you the hassle of replying, Oliver :smug:

[Oliver_W]

He was approached and chased by men double his age, stamped on and stabbed with a glass bottle, his eyesight has been impaired due to the attack and when he was saved and escorted to the police for assistance, they decided to do a stop and search instead, I know you like to be edgy with the ‘both sides’ scenario, but this kid was attacked for no reason by two full grown racists

Thank god the police have magical psychic powers, and could tell all that just by looking.

There was violence on both sides, there's no denying that :shrug: How were the police to know the kid wasn't carrying anything?

[Liam-]

Thank god the police have magical psychic powers, and could tell all that just by looking.

There was violence on both sides, there's no denying that :shrug: How were the police to know the kid wasn't carrying anything?

Well if a teenager is brought to them by a stranger who’s had to save him from a couple of racists kicking his head in, one would think they’d use their common sense and not search him like a criminal

[Oliver_W]

Well if a teenager is brought to them by a stranger who’s had to save him from a couple of racists kicking his head in, one would think they’d use their common sense and not search him like a criminal

In normal circumstances, yes.

At the latest in the string of violent protests, it's better to be safe than sorry. Anyone who was brought in for first aid should have been searched, if not all participants in both sides of the protests.

[Brother Leon]

In normal circumstances, yes.

At the latest in the string of violent protests, it's better to be safe than sorry. Anyone who was brought in for first aid should have been searched, if not all participants in both sides of the protests.

Yeah. I’m sure if a white kid went up to them bleeding and pleading for help they would have opted to stop and search him. Most definitely..

[Moniqua]

it’s sad that some people are going to wilfully die ignorant </3

[Liam-]

Has everybody seen this? It’s glorious :love:

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[Ammi]

Has everybody seen this? It’s glorious :love:

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...I’ve just watched this when I came home from work...so powerful, he’s pretty incredible...:love:...stuff he said made me think about more recent times as well...like in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, how much the black community felt abandoned...

[arista]

African Countries Still Pay
Over $500 Billion as Colonial Tax to France Each Year

https://thepeoplesnewsafrica.com/africa-still-pays-colonial-tax-to-france/?fbclid=IwAR1NIg1F6p1JsASN0UnOo2v0wMnAvBrbcgeen6jn zrKbyrhXkMEHswxfpEc

[arista]

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From an Interview on Australia
Skynews

[Kizzy]

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From an Interview on Australia
Skynews

Killer A... serving police officer.
Killer B ....mentally unstable homeless refugee with PTSD.

Is the difference apparent yet Australia?

[arista]

https://twitter.com/eternalinmind/status/1275279802035920902

[Liam-]

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There’s footage of this man handcuffed before he gets tasered repeatedly

[The Slim Reaper]

Again, this is them on their best behaviour.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Liam-]

State sponsored thugs

[Swan]

****...That poor guy, ****ing assholes!! That was really hard to watch. W**kers!

[Liam-]

Their casualness about assaulting the wrong man is astonishing and people wonder why people don’t trust the police

[Swan]

Their casualness about assaulting the wrong man is astonishing and people wonder why people don’t trust the police

But even if he was the right man, that kind of treatment should never be necessary for 'suspicious behaviour' (unless that suspicious behaviour was terror related, which it wasn't).

Really disgusting.

[Liam-]

But even if he was the right man, that kind of treatment should never be necessary for 'suspicious behaviour' (unless that suspicious behaviour was terror related, which it wasn't).

Really disgusting.

Precisely, he wasn’t even resisting arrest, he was assaulted unprovoked from behind, it’s not hard to see why cops are the leading statistic in domestic abuse tbh

[Swan]

Precisely, he wasn’t even resisting arrest, he was assaulted unprovoked from behind, it’s not hard to see why cops are the leading statistic in domestic abuse tbh

Yeah you can that piece of **** who took him down was just itching to do it, im sure he took pleasure in it too the sick bastard!

Surly he can sue?

[Liam-]

Yeah you can that piece of **** who took him down was just itching to do it, im sure he took pleasure in it too the sick bastard!

Surly he can sue?

He could try, probably wouldn’t go anywhere seeing as they all close ranks to protect themselves

[Ammi]

Yeah you can that piece of **** who took him down was just itching to do it, im sure he took pleasure in it too the sick bastard!

Surly he can sue?

...he is suing, here is a link to the DM article...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8451875/Black-man-sues-Valdosta-Police-Department-breaking-arm-wrongful-arrest.html

[Liam-]

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2 blokes, a woman, a child and their dog attacking one black man, Grim.

[Swan]

He could try, probably wouldn’t go anywhere seeing as they all close ranks to protect themselves

...he is suing, here is a link to the DM article...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8451875/Black-man-sues-Valdosta-Police-Department-breaking-arm-wrongful-arrest.html

Really hope he's successful, but yeah i agree it's unlikely.

[Beso]

What point are you trying to make with that video liam?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't think why the police man did it has been established or if he meant to do it Which I seriously doubt.

In court I think it will be impossible to prove either

Or have I missed some evidence?

[Beso]

I don't think why the police man did it has been established or if he meant to do it Which I seriously doubt.

In court I think it will be impossible to prove either

Or have I missed some evidence?



He wouldn't be dead if that policeman wasnt being filmed..

That's what I believe. I believe the sign of the times and the hunger to grab your phone and video caused this copper to show his authority by staying as he was to show the camera he wasnt bothered.

I wonder if they will put up a statue of this moronic copper seeing as he's seemingly changed the world by his actions.

[The Slim Reaper]

He wouldn't be dead if that policeman wasnt being filmed..

That's what I believe. I believe the sign of the times and the hunger to grab your phone and video caused this copper to show his authority by staying as he was to show the camera he wasnt bothered.

I wonder if they will put up a statue of this moronic copper seeing as he's seemingly changed the world by his actions.

Wut?

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Nicky91]

He wouldn't be dead if that policeman wasnt being filmed..

That's what I believe. I believe the sign of the times and the hunger to grab your phone and video caused this copper to show his authority by staying as he was to show the camera he wasnt bothered.

I wonder if they will put up a statue of this moronic copper seeing as he's seemingly changed the world by his actions.

oh yes he would, but then you wouldn't have any evidence

keep filming what police officers do, at least now we got evidence

[Cherie]

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[JerseyWins]

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Oooof, damn that's gross :skull:

[hijaxers]

:umm2:

Well thats just disgraceful.

[Ammi]

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...(..I would like to think..)...that he just massively misjudged how he expressed his disapproval of face masks being compulsory...that somehow, he didn’t intend it to be as disrespectful as it was...?...that’s what I’d like to believe and I’d like to believe that he’ll speak out and apologise ...

[Beso]

This copper just ain't changed the worlds perception on black people, due to his actions the world has seen corona in a different light.

[rusticgal]

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2 blokes, a woman, a child and their dog attacking one black man, Grim.


That made me feel sick to the stomach...

[Beso]

Wut?

I feel the policeman was showing his authority...but not towards George but towards the person with the camera.

I reckon george might still be alive if it wasnt for the filming.


I'm not excusing anything by that post either before anyone starts

[user104658]

I feel the policeman was showing his authority...but not towards George but towards the person with the camera.



I reckon george might still be alive if it wasnt for the filming.





I'm not excusing anything by that post either before anyone starts

To be fair you're probably not wrong, I think it's a bit of both. I'm not convinced he would still be alive either way, but certainly in the second video I saw of it (where George is quite clearly already dead, but it continues) I felt that they were making a point to those observing and filming more than anything else.

[Liam-]

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[Ammi]

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...Lord, this is horrendous...I’m trying to find more information about the attack and her injuries and I found this, there are some pics of the burns...

https://madison365.com/black-woman-attacked-by-men-wielding-lighter-fluid-racial-slurs/

[Crimson Dynamo]

"As Israel moves forward with the annexation of the West Bank, and mainstream British politics is gagged of the right to critique Zionism, and Israel’s settler colonial pursuits, we loudly and clearly stand beside our Palestinian comrades.

FREE PALESTINE."


Latest BLm tweet :umm2:


As Laurence Fox asked. I wonder if the premier League support this extreme left view?

Vile



(Sorry but this seemed the most relevant thread)

[The Slim Reaper]

"As Israel moves forward with the annexation of the West Bank, and mainstream British politics is gagged of the right to critique Zionism, and Israel’s settler colonial pursuits, we loudly and clearly stand beside our Palestinian comrades.

FREE PALESTINE."


Latest BLm tweet :umm2:


As Laurence Fox asked. I wonder if the premier League support this extreme left view?

Vile



(Sorry but this seemed the most relevant thread)

That isn't anything to do with the BLM movement. It's not a twitter handle linked with them but I posted an article in your farage thread I know you'll be interested in reading.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is the problem. No one knows who these people care. It's frightening