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GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 01:00 PM
yes I get all that, but its out there now, you know how cruel school kids can be?



Breaking Ophrah confirmed it was not Liz or Phil who made the comment

Kids are cruel regardless, though Cherie :shrug: whether you're in the public eye or not you could get bullied easily for no reason.

Yeah it wasn't the queen or Phil that made the remark, doubt we'll ever find out who said it .

Livia
08-03-2021, 01:02 PM
Kids are cruel regardless, though Cherie :shrug: whether you're in the public eye or not you could get bullied easily for no reason.

Yeah it wasn't the queen or Phil that made the remark, doubt we'll ever find out who said it .

Or if it was actually ever said at all.

Ammi
08-03-2021, 01:02 PM
...okay, so this is what one article says, crikey these old traditions of ‘royal’...


Back in 1917, King George V restricted the number of family members who could rock a royal title, and naturally, he phrased it in the most complicated and annoying way possible:

“The grandchildren of the sons of any such Sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of Dukes of these Our Realms.”

Which basically means that the titles of “prince” and “princess” are restricted to the children of the sovereign (e.g., Prince Charles, Prince Edward, and Princess Anne), the children of the sovereign’s sons (e.g., Prince Harry and Prince William), and the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales (e.g., Prince George). But since Prince Harry is the second son of Prince Charles, his kids are not guaranteed the title of “prince” or “princess.”

Which basically means that the titles of “prince” and “princess” are restricted to the children of the sovereign (e.g., Prince Charles, Prince Edward, and Princess Anne), the children of the sovereign’s sons (e.g., Prince Harry and Prince William), and the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales (e.g., Prince George). But since Prince Harry is the second son of Prince Charles, his kids are not guaranteed the title of “prince” or “princess.”



...:laugh:...so in other words, the Queen could have amended it so that Archie could have had the title of Prince and the security afforded to such but she chose not to....interesting...

bots
08-03-2021, 01:05 PM
if Meghan isn't prepared to say who made the racist remark, then it's equivalent to saying the world is racist. You can't just throw a general slur in the direction of a group without backing it up

Livia
08-03-2021, 01:05 PM
ITV Be would be the most appropriate .

LOL... so true.

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 01:10 PM
Or if it was actually ever said at all.

Harry & Meghan divided opinion from the moment they got together .

But what if it was ACTUALLY said?? , Sounds like Meghan is meant to just shush about racism ? :bored:.

Like I said whoever said it won't be held accountable,as we'll never find out who said it . So people will always doubt it.

Ammi
08-03-2021, 01:12 PM
that their comments about his skin colour will be googable for ever? and might affect his life going forward, am I being very obtuse?

...His father, Harry made the public statement regarding racist/her heritage comments toward his mother...that’s something the palace haven’t intervened with or tried in any way to protect Meghan from...I’m pretty sure there will be many things google able and those are part of Archie’s ‘story’ as well...I’m still not sure of the connection, maybe it’s just me...I mean, look at the awful media that Meghan has been given, it’s horrific and drove them both from living here...and that’s all Google able as well...

bots
08-03-2021, 01:12 PM
...:laugh:...so in other words, the Queen could have amended it so that Archie could have had the title of Prince and the security afforded to such but she chose not to....interesting...

So if she widened it out, the public would then say ... more scroungers. With precedent it's a slippery slope and with the queen she very, very rarely breaks tradition. Some will criticise her for that, saying she is not prepared to modernise others will say ... well done. She can't win in that situation

Ammi
08-03-2021, 01:14 PM
...I mean, Meghan’s skin colour/heritage have been in the public domain ever since Harry announced his engagement and Archie’s has been in the public domain since he was born...

jet
08-03-2021, 01:14 PM
Finding Freedom: By Omid Scobie, friend, biographer and spokesman for H&M.

Harry and Meghan - who were going to register Archie for dual citizenship - decided to forgo a title for their son, because they wanted him to be a private citizen until he was at an age where he could decide which path he would like to take'. :whistle:

Beso
08-03-2021, 01:15 PM
...it’s very French to have two weddings, one personal, intimate one for the legal vows and one more official one to celebrate with others...and well, Paris is always a good idea...:flutter:...Remy’s influence, I reckon...we love to see it...:love:..

It's also very french to pay for it yourselves.

Ammi
08-03-2021, 01:15 PM
So if she widened it out, the public would then say ... more scroungers. With precedent it's a slippery slope and with the queen she very, very rarely breaks tradition. Some will criticise her for that, saying she is not prepared to modernise others will say ... well done. She can't win in that situation

...but she did though, with Charlotte...she has recently amended it for Charlotte in modern times...but not for Archie...

bots
08-03-2021, 01:17 PM
...but she did though, with Charlotte...she has recently amended it for Charlotte in modern times...but not for Archie...

Charlotte is in the direct royal line, Archie isn't. For example, if her father and brother died, she would be queen

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 01:19 PM
...His father, Harry made the public statement regarding racist/her heritage comments toward his mother...that’s something the palace haven’t intervened with or tried in any way to protect Meghan from...I’m pretty sure there will be many things google able and those are part of Archie’s ‘story’ as well...I’m still not sure of the connection, maybe it’s just me...I mean, look at the awful media that Meghan has been given, it’s horrific and drove them both from living here...and that’s all Google able as well...

Exactly and when Archie grows up he'll always be able to Google the media hate his mother experienced.

So I don't know what difference it makes that Meghan has called out a racist remark about Archie. Let's address the elephant in the room here .

Ammi
08-03-2021, 01:19 PM
Poor Harry when she starts divorce proceedings and all his boats have been burned.

See you all back here for the "I told you so" part of the discussion.

...well no...it isn’t ‘ I told you so’, surely if a marriage fails...whatever is felt about either or both on a personal level, it would be very, very sad because their children would be the ones to be effected most...an I told you so situation wouldn’t apply at all, why would it...

Livia
08-03-2021, 01:20 PM
Harry & Meghan divided opinion from the moment they got together .

But what if it was ACTUALLY said?? , Sounds like Meghan is meant to just shush about racism ? :bored:.

Like I said whoever said it won't be held accountable,as we'll never find out who said it . So people will always doubt it.


Hey... but.... What if it wasn't?!?

No one should shush about racism.

But I see you've made up your mind.

No one will be held accountable if no one is named. If it were true, and I was Meghan, I'd want the person named and shamed. But no... no name... which makes it seems like a bit of a tale.

Livia
08-03-2021, 01:21 PM
...well no...it isn’t ‘ I told you so’, surely if a marriage fails...whatever is felt about either or both on a personal level, it would be very, very sad because their children would be the ones to be effected most...an I told you so situation wouldn’t apply at all, why would it...

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Ammi
08-03-2021, 01:24 PM
Charlotte is in the direct royal line, Archie isn't. For example, if her father and brother died, she would be queen

It was still stated as ‘male’ children, though...so in Elizabeth amending it to include Charlotte, it was open to amendments being made...these ‘traditions’ are so outdated, they obviously have to be open to being updated as well and apparently are...what an amazing Birth gift to have given her great grandson...:lovedup:..


Side note: At this point, you’re probably wondering why Princess Charlotte got to be called “princess” since she’s not “the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales.” That’s because in 2013, Queen Elizabeth II issued a letters patent that removed the first-kid-only decree. How modern!

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 01:26 PM
Hey... but.... What if it wasn't?!?

No one should shush about racism.

But I see you've made up your mind.

No one will be held accountable if no one is named. If it were true, and I was Meghan, I'd want the person named and shamed. But no... no name... which makes it seems like a bit of a tale.

Livia :facepalm:
if Meghan 'named and shamed' whoever said it then she'd be accused of ruining that particular person's life, people already are doubting it .So she can't win either way . The backlash would be even worse . Not to mention the person would deny it or stay silent.

I'll admit It's got me wondering who said it aswell, but it could be anyone .

Denver
08-03-2021, 01:31 PM
Oprah has said that the racist remarks were not from the Queen or Phillip all but confirming it was Charles

jet
08-03-2021, 01:31 PM
I don't get this "They wouldn't get me help for my mental state" thing. She was a grown experienced woman, could she not get help herself, like any of us has to do? Or why would Harry not get her help? Or insist that she was given help?

She says she was suicidal but she and Harry just trundled along, doing nothing, because the HR dept. refused to help her?

Doesn't add up at all.

LukeB
08-03-2021, 01:32 PM
oh right, for me bringing what Archie's skin colour might be into the public domain is uncomfortable for me, I think while they want to get their point across, down the line this will come back to haunt them as it can never be taken back, and Archie may suffer for that comment going forward

Are children of the other Royals Princes and Princesses then, I don't know, will need to call on Jet I know Williams are but not sure about the rest :laugh:

You say that like he wasn't going to suffer anyway when he sees all the vile abuse Meghan and Harry got from the media and public

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 01:36 PM
You say that like he wasn't going to suffer anyway when he sees all the vile abuse Meghan and Harry got from the media and public

Yeah like I said the vile hate is already googleable ,and Archie will see it all anyway.

Glenn.
08-03-2021, 01:36 PM
I don't get this "They wouldn't get me help for my mental state" thing. She was a grown experienced woman, could she not get help herself, like any of us has to do? Or why would Harry not get her help? Or insist that she was given help?

She says she was suicidal but she and Harry just trundled along, doing nothing, because the HR dept. refused to help her?

Doesn't add up at all.

Harry did try to get her help through the family, but they were told there was nothing that could be done. The royal family are known for this especially with Diana who said as much in her own explosive interview.

Stop dismissing her struggles to have an unnecessary dig at her. It’s disgusting.

Cherie
08-03-2021, 01:37 PM
Kids are cruel regardless, though Cherie :shrug: whether you're in the public eye or not you could get bullied easily for no reason.

Yeah it wasn't the queen or Phil that made the remark, doubt we'll ever find out who said it .

...His father, Harry made the public statement regarding racist/her heritage comments toward his mother...that’s something the palace haven’t intervened with or tried in any way to protect Meghan from...I’m pretty sure there will be many things google able and those are part of Archie’s ‘story’ as well...I’m still not sure of the connection, maybe it’s just me...I mean, look at the awful media that Meghan has been given, it’s horrific and drove them both from living here...and that’s all Google able as well...

Exactly and when Archie grows up he'll always be able to Google the media hate his mother experienced.

So I don't know what difference it makes that Meghan has called out a racist remark about Archie. Let's address the elephant in the room here .

The difference is its not been said by strangers

From his father mouth about a family member

Cherie
08-03-2021, 01:39 PM
Oprah has said that the racist remarks were not from the Queen or Phillip all but confirming it was Charles

Proof? Could be William Camilla Kate

He needs to confirm

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 01:41 PM
Proof? Could be William Camilla Kate

He needs to confirm

I didn't think it was mentioned who said it :conf: ? , but I was wondering if it was Charles or Camilla.

Seems a bizarre thing for William or Kate to say when they're of a different generation ,but who knows.

Denver
08-03-2021, 01:45 PM
Proof? Could be William Camilla Kate

He needs to confirm

She said on CBS that Harry told her if she had a chance to let people know it wasn't his grandparents

Ammi
08-03-2021, 01:46 PM
The difference is its not been said by strangers

From his father mouth about a family member

...it’s been said by his father, someone he places trust in that there will be truth in it...which will help go to balance in some small part, the unfair media onslaught containing so many slants and misinformation and unfairnesses...

jet
08-03-2021, 01:49 PM
Harry did try to get her help through the family, but they were told there was nothing that could be done. The royal family are known for this especially with Diana who said as much in her own explosive interview.

Stop dismissing her struggles to have an unnecessary dig at her. It’s disgusting.

So they just say ok then, whatever, and do nothing for themselves? Harry just accepts that when his wife is suicidal? She just accepts it?

They didn't help Diana either - but they got her help from those qualified to deal with it, as they are not.

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 01:54 PM
So they just say ok then, whatever, and do nothing for themselves? Harry just accepts that when his wife is suicidal? She just accepts it?

They didn't help Diana either - but they got her help from those qualified to deal with it, as they are not.

Unless you're a trained doctor or psychologist or someone who's gone through similar troubles, I don't think you'll fully understand how mental health works .

And even medical professions get it wrong .And pumping someone with more pills isn't going to make the problem go away automatically, if anything it makes it worse .

Smithy
08-03-2021, 01:54 PM
I think this thread is just proof they can’t win

They said a member of the royal family was “concerned” about the colour or the baby and for some members it wasn’t enough and demanded to know the name of who it was

Meghan said that she felt suicidal from the **** she got from the press and this time members don’t believe her

If she’d have said who the family member was there’s no doubt in my mind she’d just be brandished a liar then too :shrug:

The amount of hatred against a woman who has done nothing to anybody in this thread honestly just boggles my mind, like??? Go outside, touch some grass or something

jet
08-03-2021, 01:55 PM
Unless you're a trained doctor or psychologist or someone who's gone through similar troubles, I don't think you'll fully understand how mental health works .

And even medical professions get it wrong .And pumping someone with more pills isn't going to make the problem go away automatically, if anything it makes it worse .

That has nothing to do with what my post is about.

Black Dagger
08-03-2021, 01:56 PM
I think this thread is just proof they can’t win

They said a member of the royal family was “concerned” about the colour or the baby and for some members it wasn’t enough and demanded to know the name of who it was

Meghan said that she felt suicidal from the **** she got from the press and this time members don’t believe her

If she’d have said who the family member was there’s no doubt in my mind she’d just be brandished a liar then too :shrug:

The amount of hatred against a woman who has done nothing to anybody in this thread honestly just boggles my mind, like??? Go outside, touch some grass or something

Well bloody said.

Cherie
08-03-2021, 01:59 PM
She said on CBS that Harry told her if she had a chance to let people know it wasn't his grandparents

Yes I know, you said it MUST be Charles :laugh:

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 01:59 PM
That has nothing to do with what my post is about.

Yes it does as you question Meghan's mental health , when you're not in her shoes .

Nicky91
08-03-2021, 02:00 PM
my mom just compared Meghan to Diana (as in both ''drama queens'') :skull:

LukeB
08-03-2021, 02:03 PM
I really do hope people have a better education on mental health because the comments are very worrying and quite ignorant tbh.

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 02:06 PM
I really do hope people have a better education on mental health because the comments are very worrying and quite ignorant tbh.

What's alarming is even when Meghan had a miscarriage she still got hate and criticism :bored:, truly sad society we live in.

LukeB
08-03-2021, 02:08 PM
What's alarming is even when Meghan had a miscarriage she still got hate and criticism :bored:, truly sad society we live in.

and her annoucing her pregnancy after having a miscarriage too.

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 02:08 PM
What's alarming is even when Meghan had a miscarriage she still got hate and criticism :bored:, truly sad society we live in.

do you have an example?

jet
08-03-2021, 02:09 PM
Yes it does as you question Meghan's mental health , when you're not in her shoes .

Where did I question her mental health? Quote me saying that please?

I questioned her statement that she was refused help.

CTV news - Richard Berthelsen - "the royal family have access to the best qualified professionals in the world, and have used them on many occasions.....a very odd claim to make that she was refused help....

joeysteele
08-03-2021, 02:10 PM
I really do hope people have a better education on mental health because the comments are very worrying and quite ignorant tbh.

Extremely so.
Which is sadly why there's still stigma around mental illness.

Even why some suffer it in silence worrying about what some 'others', (not just children) but amazingly adults reactions will be.

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 02:13 PM
Harry & Meghan divided opinion from the moment they got together .

But what if it was ACTUALLY said?? , Sounds like Meghan is meant to just shush about racism ? :bored:.

Like I said whoever said it won't be held accountable,as we'll never find out who said it . So people will always doubt it.


If its been said in the way its portrayed....if that was the exact wording. We all know things can be said and taken out of context...I dont think Meghan was even there when this was supposedly said.

jet
08-03-2021, 02:15 PM
I really do hope people have a better education on mental health because the comments are very worrying and quite ignorant tbh.

By who? Quotes?

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 02:16 PM
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jet
08-03-2021, 02:17 PM
If its been said in the way its portrayed....if that was the exact wording. We all know things can be said and taken out of context...I dont think Meghan was even there when this was supposedly said.

"Harry told her"......

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 02:17 PM
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GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 02:19 PM
If its been said in the way its portrayed....if that was the exact wording. We all know things can be said and taken out of context...I dont think Meghan was even there when this was supposedly said.

Well we'll never know HOW it was said ,but you cannot dismiss it still a racist remark . Why is there concerns over a baby's skin colour ?? :suspect:.

And the context is a very strange one , when everyone knew Meghan was mixed race . So why this sudden fear over a baby ? .

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 02:19 PM
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GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 02:27 PM
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Ben Shapiro putting his boring 2 cents in , why am I not surprised :sleep: .

LukeB
08-03-2021, 02:31 PM
By who? Quotes?

You can just look at the first post on page 5.

And the whole dismissing the suicide situation and plus making out Harry can't really talk about mental health because he's rich.

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 02:32 PM
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:joker:


Please tell me she didnt say that..:laugh:

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 02:34 PM
Ben Shapiro putting his boring 2 cents in , why am I not surprised :sleep: .


Hes not wrong..

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 02:34 PM
Please tell me she didnt say that..:laugh:

Interesting you don't think that's taken out of context,but you think the comment about Archie's skin colour is ?.

arista
08-03-2021, 02:36 PM
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Glenn.
08-03-2021, 02:51 PM
So they just say ok then, whatever, and do nothing for themselves? Harry just accepts that when his wife is suicidal? She just accepts it?

They didn't help Diana either - but they got her help from those qualified to deal with it, as they are not.

They accepted that no help was coming from the Royal family so took themselves out of the royal family. That’s what they did. There was no grand scheme. It was done for their own sanity.

Cherie
08-03-2021, 03:14 PM
I'm not a fan of Charles, but in all honesty I would have stopped taking his calls as well for my own sanity

I think Megs wanted the Diana narrative, she will never be the People's Princess unfortunately, far too self absorbed, Diana had a natural affinity with the people she interacted with and didn't choose projects that were safe

thesheriff443
08-03-2021, 03:45 PM
Let’s hope Meghan gets some help she desperately needs because she is clearly not right in the head.

After all she is desperately ill with her mental health

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 03:48 PM
Interesting you don't think that's taken out of context,but you think the comment about Archie's skin colour is ?.


I dont like her...shes a proven liar and I take everything she says with a pinch of salt. Shes accusing her husbands family of Racism over one comment that 'could' have been taken well out of context.
My family was torn apart by a sister-in-law who was intent on breaking up my family closeness. There are people who love to twist things and over exaggerate to cause problems....
I dont know why Meghan and Harry have done this...I dont know what they have gained from it apart from a lot of hurt that may never be forgiven.
They need to name who said what they claimed to have said so they can defend or explain themselves... we all suspect 1 of 4 people..how fair is that on the 3 that didnt say it. Its manipulating and intentional and very devious.

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 03:53 PM
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Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 03:56 PM
i dont like her...shes a proven liar and i take everything she says with a pinch of salt. Shes accusing her husbands family of racism over one comment that 'could' have been taken well out of context.
My family was torn apart by a sister-in-law who was intent on breaking up my family closeness. There are people who love to twist things and over exaggerate to cause problems....
I dont know why meghan and harry have done this...i dont know what they have gained from it apart from a lot of hurt that may never be forgiven.
They need to name who said what they claimed to have said so they can defend or explain themselves... We all suspect 1 of 4 people..how fair is that on the 3 that didnt say it. Its manipulating and intentional and very devious.

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rusticgal
08-03-2021, 04:10 PM
Well we'll never know HOW it was said ,but you cannot dismiss it still a racist remark . Why is there concerns over a baby's skin colour ?? :suspect:.

And the context is a very strange one , when everyone knew Meghan was mixed race . So why this sudden fear over a baby ? .


I find it hard to believe that any family member would use the word 'concern' in front of Harry...maybe they were 'curious' rather than concerned and its been taken out of context...
Which is why they need to name the person so they have the chance to defend to claim...otherwise its just their interpretation.

Cherie
08-03-2021, 04:14 PM
I find it hard to believe that any family member would use the word 'concern' in front of Harry...maybe they were 'curious' rather than concerned and its been taken out of context...
Which is why they need to name the person so they have the chance to defend to claim...otherwise its just their interpretation.

Given they were speaking directly to Harry, it's hard to believe they wanted to intentionally offend him

Cherie
08-03-2021, 04:18 PM
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One of the more bizarre moments of the Oprah interview is when Meghan compares herself to the Little Mermaid – a fairy tale character who marries a prince then loses her voice, but finally emerges victorious and regains the power of speech. But the Disneyesque-fantasy for us mere viewers is destroyed. Meghan pulls back the curtain too far and reveals too much.

:umm2:

Kazanne
08-03-2021, 04:18 PM
I find it hard to believe that any family member would use the word 'concern' in front of Harry...maybe they were 'curious' rather than concerned and its been taken out of context...
Which is why they need to name the person so they have the chance to defend to claim...otherwise its just their interpretation.

Yes that's how I see it nothing malicious ,IF it was said it was probably just , someone's curiosity of what colour he would be, and really IF they are telling all they need to name names otherwise they are just fuelling speculation and that wont be good, it could have been a minor royal, but it will be left to peoples imaginations.:wavey:

bots
08-03-2021, 04:26 PM
i quite believe someone said something inappropriate about Archie, but to take offence every time someone close says something a bit iffy, it's no wonder their world ended with the negativity of the press. The better person would have challenged and corrected or simply let it go rather than saying the world is against them. It's so out of proportion compared to what the average person has to deal with every day. If that interview was the real extent of their gripe, they are nothing more than spoilt brats

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 04:27 PM
I find it hard to believe that any family member would use the word 'concern' in front of Harry...maybe they were 'curious' rather than concerned and its been taken out of context...
Which is why they need to name the person so they have the chance to defend to claim...otherwise its just their interpretation.

Naming the person does nothing , non of us were there to hear how this went down .

I just don't understand what the concern would be over the colour of a baby's skin , Harry is a white ginger man and Meghan is a mixed race woman. What did they think the baby would look like?? :rolleyes: .

AnnieK
08-03-2021, 04:27 PM
Whether the intention was to offend or not, the have taken offence. Whether it was well intentioned or not, its irrelevant. I do however agree that they should have either named who said it or not mentioned it at all as it has just fuelled speculation and rumour which is how the problems with the media begin.

Jordan.
08-03-2021, 04:28 PM
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Not being racist how WOKE is that

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 04:31 PM
Piers absolutely nails it and is in tune with the GBP with his
latest hard-hitting article

Never have I watched a more repulsively disingenuous interview.

Nor one more horrendously hypocritical or contradictory.

They told of their constant trauma from nasty newspaper stories, but repeatedly insisted they never read any of them.

They claimed they were forced to sign gazillion-dollar deals with Netflix and Spotify
because Prince Charles cut off their allowance, despite Harry inheriting millions from his
late mother Princess Diana and having his entire life bankrolled by the Royal Family.

And so, it went nauseatingly on.

Meghan even compared her former life living in a palace to the crippling freedom-
robbing existence of coronavirus lockdowns, which must have sounded so empathetic to
large families living at the top of tower blocks with three kids they're trying to home-
school and no job to pay for food.

'I couldn't even meet my friends for lunch!' wailed the Duchess of Delusion, who flew to
New York for a $500,000 baby shower with all her new-found celebrity pals, then flew
back to London like any good eco-warrior on George Clooney's carbon footprint
guzzling private jet.

First, Meghan claimed to have been left suicidal by the pressure of being a Princess and
had her requests for help rejected by the cold, heartless Palace.

We weren't told who did the rejecting, or why she couldn't seek her own therapy or
treatment if that's what she felt she needed. After all, her husband has spent years
talking about mental health and has close connections with all the major mental health
charities.

From the moment Oprah announced her scoop, I predicted to anyone who asked me
that Meghan would aggressively play the mental health and race cards to deflect from
any criticism of herself and her own behaviour or accountability.

When it comes to mental health and having a heart, it appears Meghan and Harry only care about themselves.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9338343/PIERS-MORGAN-Meghan-Harrys-nauseating-two-hour-Oprah-whine-athon-disgraceful-diatribe.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK


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GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 04:32 PM
Whether the intention was to offend or not, the have taken offence. Whether it was well intentioned or not, its irrelevant. I do however agree that they should have either named who said it or not mentioned it at all as it has just fuelled speculation and rumour which is how the problems with the media begin.

But I don't think naming the person would of gone in their favour either . And someone being ignorant about a baby's skin colour shouldn't be ignored either .

Liam-
08-03-2021, 04:33 PM
Aye, how horrible of them to get offended about concerns over their child’s skin colour, absolute monsters the pair of them

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 04:35 PM
One of the more bizarre moments of the Oprah interview is when Meghan compares herself to the Little Mermaid – a fairy tale character who marries a prince then loses her voice, but finally emerges victorious and regains the power of speech. But the Disneyesque-fantasy for us mere viewers is destroyed. Meghan pulls back the curtain too far and reveals too much.

:umm2:


:facepalm:....the Theatrics...:laugh:

Mitchell
08-03-2021, 04:36 PM
Aye, how horrible of them to get offended about concerns over their child’s skin colour, absolute monsters the pair of them

:clap1: racists gonna racist I guess

LukeB
08-03-2021, 04:36 PM
Are we still using Piers Morgan who abuses Meghan Markle every single day as gospel? Another one who is ignorant to mental health

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 04:36 PM
A mixed race mother and a white ginger father , what did this person want the baby to look like ??

LukeB
08-03-2021, 04:38 PM
:clap1: racists gonna racist I guess

White people trying to say it's not racist like they know what racism feels like :o

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 04:38 PM
Are we still using Piers Morgan who abuses Meghan Markle every single day as gospel? Another one who is ignorant to mental health

The same Piers Morgan who said men with mental health issues should "man up " :bored:

LukeB
08-03-2021, 04:40 PM
The same Piers Morgan who said men with mental health issues should "man up " :bored:

yup that's the one. Using a bully as gospel is just embarrassing.

Mitchell
08-03-2021, 04:41 PM
The same Piers Morgan who said men with mental health issues should "man up " :bored:

Scum.

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 04:42 PM
Naming the person does nothing , non of us were there to hear how this went down .

I just don't understand what the concern would be over the colour of a baby's skin , Harry is a white ginger man and Meghan is a mixed race woman. What did they think the baby would look like?? :rolleyes: .


Its no different from saying I wonder if its going to be Ginger?....

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 04:42 PM
top 5 comments from Piers excellent expose of the awful "interview" to give a flavour what the GBP think

1. Harry discussing being financially cut off made me laugh out loud. He is a 36 year old grown man with no job living in a fourteen million dollar mansion with sixteen bathrooms.

2.Well, After THAT disgusting performance, Harry will NEVER be able to come back to Great Britain ! You're in permanent exile now for sure.

3. This was nothing but a Soap Oprah..literally

4. Absolutely time now for the British media to just not report on these two shameful grifters ... leave them to it !!!!

5. Imagine being so evil as to try to cancel a 99-year-old man in hospital. Harry is just as bad . So weak he's betrayed his own blood, selling them out literally and figuratively for a 3rd rate divorced actress with Narcissistic tendencies #TeamQueen

joeysteele
08-03-2021, 04:48 PM
Actually I watched Morgan this morning and he was extremely rude shouting over his co host.
She couldn't get a word in at all.
In fact she just about gave up.

He has an unhealthy obsession with these 2 and his rantings were even more over the top than usual.
Thankfully Trisha was there to slap him down.
Not that he took any notice, however she made the far better points.

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 04:49 PM
Its no different from saying I wonder if its going to be Ginger?....

Wondering if a baby will have the same hair colour as his dad ( which was likely anyway), is not the same as having 'concerns' over skin colour .

AnnieK
08-03-2021, 04:49 PM
Its no different from saying I wonder if its going to be Ginger?....

I suppose it still depends on how its asked. When I was pregnant somme people asked me if I thought my baby would be ginger as if it were a curse. The way some people said it was like I should be disappointed if he was ginger (he was). It wasn't particularly nice and the first thing I asked when he was born was is he ginger not is he ok :laugh: I knew he was going to be in for a world of name calling but thankfully he loves his hair (at the moment). Pregnancy hormones make you a lot more sensitive to anything that may be construed as a slight toward your child.

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 04:51 PM
Wondering if a baby will have the same hair colour as his dad ( which was likely anyway), is not the same as having 'concerns' over skin colour .

what were the "concerns"?

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 04:52 PM
Naming the person does nothing , non of us were there to hear how this went down .





So we all have to believe Meghans version do we?....I mean you believe her even though you were not there :shrug:

They have made an accusation but left the court wide open for people to speculate....they are prepared to say it wasnt the Queen or Prince Phillip..so William/Kate/Charles and Camilla have the finger pointed on them....how unfair is that. Manipulative move...I have seen it all before.

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 04:53 PM
I suppose it still depends on how its asked. When I was pregnant somme people asked me if I thought my baby would be ginger as if it were a curse. The way some people said it was like I should be disappointed if he was ginger (he was). It wasn't particularly nice and the first thing I asked when he was born was is he ginger not is he ok :laugh: I knew he was going to be in for a world of name calling but thankfully he loves his hair (at the moment). Pregnancy hormones make you a lot more sensitive to anything that may be construed as a slight toward your child.

luckily you did not need to go on Oprah to share your truth with the world :laugh:

Cherie
08-03-2021, 04:55 PM
Whether the intention was to offend or not, the have taken offence. Whether it was well intentioned or not, its irrelevant. I do however agree that they should have either named who said it or not mentioned it at all as it has just fuelled speculation and rumour which is how the problems with the media begin.

I think they would have left Liz and Philip in there are well for people to speculate about expect for him being on his deathbed and it would reflect badly on them

Bit of a strange one to come out with that afterwards

17 million watched it, not sure that is good or bad for the US?

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 04:55 PM
Actually I watched Morgan this morning and he was extremely rude shouting over his co host.
She couldn't get a word in at all.
In fact she just about gave up.

He has an unhealthy obsession with these 2 and his rantings were even more over the top than usual.
Thankfully Trisha was there to slap him down.
Not that he took any notice, however she made the far better points.

Honestly Joey I can't watch the man ,I've always hated his 'style' of debating . Even when he makes valid points about other things he still does it in such a obnoxious overbearing way :facepalm: . He shouts over everyone including Suzanne. Very unprofessional .

And he went from loving Meghan to then turning against her when he didn't get into her circle of friends, he really is an attention seeking bully .

AnnieK
08-03-2021, 04:56 PM
luckily you did not need to go on Oprah to share your truth with the world :laugh:

I asked but she said no-one would care :bawling:

Cherie
08-03-2021, 04:59 PM
I asked but she said no-one would care :bawling:

:joker:

You have TiBB where you can speak your truth :laugh:

joeysteele
08-03-2021, 04:59 PM
Aye, how horrible of them to get offended about concerns over their child’s skin colour, absolute monsters the pair of them

The thing is too, it's not Meghan it was said to.
Whoever said it, my guess is a name will find its way out eventually.
It was said to Prince Harry, I think it was likely asked in a negative way, because Prince Harry didn't brush it off after it was said.

So much so he relayed it to Meghan.
I could speculate as to who said it, however won't.
Taking on Prince Harry's now difficulties with someone he cared more about.

I cannot think of any relevance to ask the question of what colour the baby would be.
It certainly must have flowed from some inner ignorance or prejudice.

Plus it's for Harry and Meghan to be the ones offended by the question.
Not for others who aren't people of colour to tell them how they should feel after such a question.

Plenty will and have however.
So much for being in the 21st century.
Seems a lot of decent educating needs to be done as to some in the Royal set up.
Outside of it too it seems possibly too.

AnnieK
08-03-2021, 04:59 PM
I think they would have left Liz and Philip in there are well for people to speculate about expect for him being on his deathbed

Bit of a strange one to come out with that afterwards

17 million watched it, not sure that is good or bad for the US?

I don't think that is that good for the US to be honest, 29.2 million watched the wedding. I think it will get more views from non US countries, the Americans don't really care about our monarchy

bots
08-03-2021, 05:00 PM
the good news is that all this will be forgotten about in a couple of weeks unless Meghan stirs it up again

Cherie
08-03-2021, 05:03 PM
top 5 comments from Piers excellent expose of the awful "interview" to give a flavour what the GBP think

1. Harry discussing being financially cut off made me laugh out loud. He is a 36 year old grown man with no job living in a fourteen million dollar mansion with sixteen bathrooms.

2.Well, After THAT disgusting performance, Harry will NEVER be able to come back to Great Britain ! You're in permanent exile now for sure.

3. This was nothing but a Soap Oprah..literally

4. Absolutely time now for the British media to just not report on these two shameful grifters ... leave them to it !!!!

5. Imagine being so evil as to try to cancel a 99-year-old man in hospital. Harry is just as bad . So weak he's betrayed his own blood, selling them out literally and figuratively for a 3rd rate divorced actress with Narcissistic tendencies #TeamQueen


Actually howling at Harry being cut off :laugh: diddums

Glenn.
08-03-2021, 05:06 PM
The hilarious thing is people saying they don’t believe her but will take tabloid stories as gospel :joker:

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 05:06 PM
Wondering if a baby will have the same hair colour as his dad ( which was likely anyway), is not the same as having 'concerns' over skin colour .





Having 'concerns' over whether the child will have ginger hair (like his dad) is the same as having 'concerns' over skin colour (like his mum)....
I wonder if all the Ginger headed people in this country would have felt offended...
The use of the word 'concern' was not appropriate and I question that that would have been said to Harry..because its only by using that word that makes the comment Racist..

joeysteele
08-03-2021, 05:07 PM
Honestly Joey I can't watch the man ,I've always hated his 'style' of debating . Even when he makes valid points about other things he still does it in such a obnoxious overbearing way :facepalm: . He shouts over everyone including Suzanne. Very unprofessional .

And he went from loving Meghan to then turning against her when he didn't get into her circle of friends, he really is an attention seeking bully .

I've never cared for him Goldheart, I actually near detest the style of all presenters however.
The only time I've agreed with him, is his determination to out the government on the unnecessary losses of loved ones lives.
He had and has the facts on those too.
I better shut up on that issue though

Other than that I can't bear the man, I couldn't bear him on Britain's Got Talent too.

This morning, although I don't like her either his co.host Susannah was shouted down by him extremely rudely.

Awful, sheer ignorance and unnecessary.
They are sadly the people Tab producers think we want to see near every day in a Morning.
There's others on BBC that Naga woman and Charlie, awful pairing they are too

They, near all of them, make the viewing of the shows they're on really hard work in my view

Glenn.
08-03-2021, 05:07 PM
It’s one thing to be curious about the colour of a child’s hair but to be ‘concerned’ about skin colour and how it’s going to look is racist. There’s not really anything to debate about that and if you are then you are part of the problem.

Jordan.
08-03-2021, 05:08 PM
Having 'concerns' over whether the child will have ginger hair (like his dad) is the same as having 'concerns' over skin colour (like his mum)....
I wonder if all the Ginger headed people in this country would have felt offended...
The use of the word 'concern' was not appropriate and I question that that would have been said to Harry..because its only by using that word that makes the comment Racist..

Were you present during the conversation? How are you sure it wasn't said as a concern? :conf:

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 05:08 PM
The thing is too, it's not Meghan it was said to.
Whoever said it, my guess is a name will find its way out eventually.
It was said to Prince Harry, I think it was likely asked in a negative way, because Prince Harry didn't brush it off after it was said.

So much so he relayed it to Meghan.
I could speculate as to who said it, however won't.
Taking on Prince Harry's now difficulties with someone he cared more about.

I cannot think of any relevance to ask the question of what colour the baby would be.
It certainly must have flowed from some inner ignorance or prejudice.

Plus it's for Harry and Meghan to be the ones offended by the question.
Not for others who aren't people of colour to tell them how they should feel after such a question.

Plenty will and have however.
So much for being in the 21st century.
Seems a lot of decent educating needs to be done as to some in the Royal set up.
Outside of it too it seems possibly too.

Exactly my point ,why were they so worried about Archie's skin complexion??. Meghan is mixed race and Harry is white so definitely ignorance on whoever said it . And how did they expect Archie to look ?.

Zizu
08-03-2021, 05:19 PM
So we all have to believe Meghans version do we?....I mean you believe her even though you were not there :shrug:



They have made an accusation but left the court wide open for people to speculate....they are prepared to say it wasnt the Queen or Prince Phillip..so William/Kate/Charles and Camilla have the finger pointed on them....how unfair is that. Manipulative move...I have seen it all before.



Harry also confirmed the question was asked ...


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arista
08-03-2021, 05:23 PM
SkyNewsHD is Crazy
we do not need a Reporter outside Buckingham Palace
its Dark Now.

arista
08-03-2021, 05:27 PM
So they Will not say who said it
But took the Time to get The Fat presenter
to say Harry confirmed it was not the Queen or his Grandad

Pathetic.


Blame it on Andrew
or his DAD

GiRTh
08-03-2021, 05:27 PM
Cant wait. Set a reminder, got the popcorn ready cuz this gonna cause a sh*t storm.

arista
08-03-2021, 05:28 PM
I am recording ITV1HD 9PM
then I can Fast forward all ads.

Cherie
08-03-2021, 05:30 PM
The hilarious thing is people saying they don’t believe her but will take tabloid stories as gospel :joker:

Harry confirmed he was financially cut off in the interview

Who is laughing now :joker:

Beso
08-03-2021, 05:30 PM
Its hard not to compare oprah to ian wright with a wig on.

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 05:30 PM
Harry also confirmed the question was asked ...




In fact, she said there were several conversations, whereas he said there was only one.


they cant even get their "story" straight

:facepalm:

Oliver_W
08-03-2021, 05:35 PM
I don't get why anyone would want to watch this, I can't imagine anything more boring than one obnoxious American talking about herself for ages with another :joker:

I guess the viewers will be split into those who want to pick on every little thing she says to "prove" how horrible she is, and those who want to "Yass kween, slay, we love to see it" whenever she breathes ...

smudgie
08-03-2021, 05:36 PM
Actually I watched Morgan this morning and he was extremely rude shouting over his co host.
She couldn't get a word in at all.
In fact she just about gave up.

He has an unhealthy obsession with these 2 and his rantings were even more over the top than usual.
Thankfully Trisha was there to slap him down.
Not that he took any notice, however she made the far better points.

Is he looking for a knighthood maybe?:laugh:

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 05:37 PM
It’s one thing to be curious about the colour of a child’s hair but to be ‘concerned’ about skin colour and how it’s going to look is racist. There’s not really anything to debate about that and if you are then you are part of the problem.


Why do you use ‘Curious’ regarding the hair and ‘concerned’ regarding skin colour....I used the word ‘Concern’ to both...to make the point ffs.

arista
08-03-2021, 05:37 PM
I don't get why anyone would want to watch this, I can't imagine anything more boring than one obnoxious American talking about herself for ages with another :joker:

I guess the viewers will be split into those who want to pick on every little thing she says to "prove" how horrible she is, and those who want to "Yass kween, slay, we love to see it" whenever she breathes ...


They want to see Harry
and we go through her first.


Best to Record it
Fast Forward all ads.

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 05:37 PM
King Nigel has his influential say and he in on full rinse mode

NjQznXdUl4w


:clap1:

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 05:40 PM
Its hard not to compare oprah to ian wright with a wig on.

They're nothing alike ,so what on earth are you talking about .

Beso
08-03-2021, 05:41 PM
I cant believe how self absorbed she is with herself.

Its poor me,poor me, all the time as her husband sits next to her having lost his mother.

Beso
08-03-2021, 05:42 PM
They're nothing alike ,so what on earth are you talking about .

They are, jim Davidson said so.

And once you look you cant unsee.

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 05:45 PM
They are, jim Davidson said so.

And once you look you cant unsee.

Why because they're both black?

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 05:45 PM
I don't get why anyone would want to watch this, I can't imagine anything more boring than one obnoxious American talking about herself for ages with another :joker:

I guess the viewers will be split into those who want to pick on every little thing she says to "prove" how horrible she is, and those who want to "Yass kween, slay, we love to see it" whenever she breathes ...


You make me laugh...:laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 05:47 PM
Why because they're both black?

its from this vid

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arista
08-03-2021, 05:56 PM
He Never Liked Trisha!




He has a Point about
WOKE folk



He Needs a Late Night Show

joeysteele
08-03-2021, 06:11 PM
It’s one thing to be curious about the colour of a child’s hair but to be ‘concerned’ about skin colour and how it’s going to look is racist. There’s not really anything to debate about that and if you are then you are part of the problem.

I agree, it is and should be concerning to not see the difference between speculation of hair colour as opposed to referencing a person's skin colour.

It would appear possibly, a lot more education is needed in the Palace and beyond the Palace too, as to references of race related matters.

Anyway, it was Prince Harry it was said to, he then told Meghan, clearly he was offended by it, so that he didn't want her having to face that question directly from whoever said it.

Of course it's akin to a racist reference.
What should skin colour matter anyway.

joeysteele
08-03-2021, 06:15 PM
Is he looking for a knighthood maybe?:laugh:

He'll likely get one smudgie :joker:
Looking at the likes of most of them who do get one.

Mitchell
08-03-2021, 06:30 PM
Very important statement today from Mind

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My inbox is always open if anyone is struggling. :hug:

Amy Jade
08-03-2021, 06:34 PM
Are we still using Piers Morgan who abuses Meghan Markle every single day as gospel? Another one who is ignorant to mental health

Piss Morgan is a hypocrite. He abuses people but if you call him fat on twitter he launches into a rant about vile trolling.

Wish he'd dissappear us his own arse the ****ing prick

LukeB
08-03-2021, 06:34 PM
Very important statement today from Mind

1369003597103529985?s=21

My inbox is always open if anyone is struggling. :hug:

ITV do need to do something since they have a campaign about mental health

Amy Jade
08-03-2021, 06:35 PM
Very important statement today from Mind

1369003597103529985?s=21

My inbox is always open if anyone is struggling. :hug:

:love:

Mitchell
08-03-2021, 06:35 PM
ITV do need to do something since they have a campaign about mental health

They can’t be serious about mental health and let his behaviour continue, it’s one or the other really.

LukeB
08-03-2021, 06:35 PM
Piss Morgan is a hypocrite. He abuses people but if you call him fat on twitter he launches into a rant about vile trolling.

Wish he'd dissappear us his own arse the ****ing prick

Exactly he throws a paddy as well. People only like him because he abuses Meghan everyday which says a lot about them too

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 06:37 PM
GMB is now more popular than the BBC's piss poor effort

Piers is popular with the GBP

he speaks their mind

Amy Jade
08-03-2021, 06:37 PM
ITV do need to do something since they have a campaign about mental health

He was on TV this morning with a banner above his head encouraging Britain to get talking about mental health yet joking about a woman talking about her mental health.

He needs sacking.

Amy Jade
08-03-2021, 06:38 PM
GMB is now more popular than the BBC's piss poor effort

Piers is popular with the GBP

he speaks their mind

He doesn't speak for me.

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 06:38 PM
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Mitchell
08-03-2021, 06:40 PM
GMB is now more popular than the BBC's piss poor effort

Piers is popular with the GBP

he speaks their mind

His attacks on mental health have been nothing but disgraceful, he shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a channel who seem to be promoting mental health awareness.

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 06:43 PM
He was on TV this morning with a banner above his head encouraging Britain to get talking about mental health yet joking about a woman talking about her mental health.

He needs sacking.

He really is a vile sh1t bag , can't stand him :crazy::facepalm: .

I laughed about the trolling thing it's so true. He dishes it out but he cant take it .

Amy Jade
08-03-2021, 06:46 PM
He really is a vile sh1t bag , can't stand him :crazy::facepalm: .

I laughed about the trolling thing it's so true. He dishes it out but he cant take it .

Always been the same and let's not forget all he did while he was editor at News of the World violating people privacy the vile pig

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 06:48 PM
His attacks on mental health have been nothing but disgraceful, he shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a channel who seem to be promoting mental health awareness.

he is governed by rules and vetted by independent watchdogs

unlike social media

if you have a problem, contact your local MP. He is allowed an opinion as are you.

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 06:56 PM
Always been the same and let's not forget all he did while he was editor at News of the World violating people privacy the vile pig

Can you imagine his reaction if anyone brought up the phone hacking scandal :joker:, if anyone ever invaded his privacy like that he'd probably cry and threaten to phone the police.

He doesn't care about mental health awareness , he only cares about himself .
Notice how when anyone challenges him or stands up to his garbage he either shouts over them like a bully with his fingers in his ears . Or he pretends he didn't hear what they said ,as he changes the subject typical weak coward !.

Denver
08-03-2021, 07:10 PM
It's interesting on what Wendy Williams take is on it

Beso
08-03-2021, 07:20 PM
So the 2nd child is going to be the last one as they dont want to increase thier strain on the planet.

Shes having has knackers, knackered as well.

Fgs.shes a spy

Beso
08-03-2021, 07:22 PM
Why because they're both black?

Heavens no..

It's because they look like each other when you add or remove hair.

Cherie
08-03-2021, 07:23 PM
So the 2nd child is going to be the last one as they dont want to increase thier strain on the planet.

Shes having has knackers, knackered as well.

Fgs.shes a spy

Harry made that exact statement after Archie was born :laugh:

Beso
08-03-2021, 07:27 PM
Harry made that exact statement after Archie was born :laugh:

She must have changed her mind.

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 07:39 PM
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Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 07:46 PM
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Toy Soldier
08-03-2021, 07:48 PM
1368973661730914313Nothing says classy respectful dad like trashing your daughter on telly am I right LT? A hampacked hero.

thesheriff443
08-03-2021, 07:50 PM
Hopefully now this pair have spewed there bile all over the world they can disappear up there own arses.

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 07:50 PM
Nothing says classy respectful dad like trashing your daughter on telly am I right LT? A hampacked hero.

I know what his daughter said

i and you have no idea what he will say

arista
08-03-2021, 07:55 PM
On ITV1HD in about 5mins

thesheriff443
08-03-2021, 07:55 PM
I surprised this pair of grabbers haven’t set up a go fund me page for archies security fees

bots
08-03-2021, 07:57 PM
it's kind of difficult to analyse what M & H wanted to achieve in the interview. If they wanted to call out racism in the royal family then it has to be laid at the individual(s) responsible ... they didn't do that.

If they wanted to shame Prince Charles by saying he cut them off without a penny, it would be more meaningful if they didn't independently have millions in the bank and also state on the original announcement that THEY WANTED to be financially independent.

By whom and how was Megan silenced. She doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would be silenced by anyone. They weren't exactly quiet at the end of the SA tour when they let it all hang out. They had a website and an instagram account that they were in charge of that they used for communication, were they shut down and unavailable to them?

I am still not clear at all on what they wanted to put across and what they expected to happen as a result of the interview

Toy Soldier
08-03-2021, 07:57 PM
I know what his daughter said



i and you have no idea what he will sayUnless it's nothing but praise, understanding, forgiveness and empathy for her feeling that she's had a crap time with her own family and now with Harry's then he can climb directly into the bin with Piers Morgan and Jim Davidson.

GoldHeart
08-03-2021, 07:57 PM
Hopefully now this pair have spewed there bile all over the world they can disappear up there own arses.

Funny how piers Morgan won't disappear up his own arse

arista
08-03-2021, 08:01 PM
On now

Cherie
08-03-2021, 08:30 PM
it's kind of difficult to analyse what M & H wanted to achieve in the interview. If they wanted to call out racism in the royal family then it has to be laid at the individual(s) responsible ... they didn't do that.

If they wanted to shame Prince Charles by saying he cut them off without a penny, it would be more meaningful if they didn't independently have millions in the bank and also state on the original announcement that THEY WANTED to be financially independent.

By whom and how was Megan silenced. She doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would be silenced by anyone. They weren't exactly quiet at the end of the SA tour when they let it all hang out. They had a website and an instagram account that they were in charge of that they used for communication, were they shut down and unavailable to them?

I am still not clear at all on what they wanted to put across and what they expected to happen as a result of the interview

No idea either BOTs

arista
08-03-2021, 09:53 PM
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arista
08-03-2021, 09:54 PM
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arista
08-03-2021, 09:55 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_b7EYVIAEBPgC?format=jpg&name=small

arista
08-03-2021, 09:55 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_b7EYUcAMAuNT?format=jpg&name=small

arista
08-03-2021, 09:56 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_b7EXUYAAI2rM?format=jpg&name=small

arista
08-03-2021, 09:57 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_b7omUYAcuBjM?format=jpg&name=small

arista
08-03-2021, 09:57 PM
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arista
08-03-2021, 09:58 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_b7mmVIAIQB3r?format=jpg&name=small

arista
08-03-2021, 09:58 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_b7pNVoAAjSn1?format=jpg&name=small

arista
08-03-2021, 09:59 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_cdr-UcAIK_8d?format=jpg&name=small

arista
08-03-2021, 09:59 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_cdr_UcAUrVmq?format=jpg&name=small

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 10:01 PM
You have to laugh at the extreme left press and their desperate attempt to troll their tiny readership

bots
08-03-2021, 10:15 PM
it was a much bigger crisis for the royals when diana died

Beso
08-03-2021, 10:17 PM
Why hasnt she mentioned her own family?

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 10:30 PM
Well...it started off convincing. Then came the inconsistances.
This much desired title of Prince for Archie was merely for protection..As senior Royals they got protection :shrug:...if they got protection so did Archie unless they planned on sending him out on his own on Royal duties at such a young age. Charles will be King in the next 10 years therefore Archie would become a Prince and get his own protection :shrug: Then when Harry joins them...Meghan says she just wanted Harry to get the protection...more important than she and Archie...:shrug:
Oh and Katie is a lovely lady...but let’s discredit her anyway :laugh:
I didn’t hear ‘concern’ over Archies skin tone...just a mention of it..quite a natural question of a family who’s white son has a child with his mixed race wife...that’s not racist...but I will replay it in case I missed that all important word.
“We had no idea what we were going to do” but they planned it...they must have had an idea WHAT they were going to do.
Harry said he wouldn’t have left if it wasn’t for Meghan...who earlier played victim to having that blame put on her...
Finally...what were they hoping to achieve from this? They have their future..they are now happy. Why dig this all up and put Harry’s family in this situation. It stinks of Revenge and self pity.

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 10:31 PM
Why hasnt she mentioned her own family?


Because that was off bounds...Oprah not wanting to put her friend in a bad light.

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 10:34 PM
Because that was off bounds...Oprah not wanting to put her friend in a bad light.

It beggars belief

Beso
08-03-2021, 10:34 PM
All he wanted was enough money to pay for his own security and have somewhere to stay..


Top floor in rotherhithe with 6 blokes outside your door would have done the trick...but one must stay above that at all costs.

The whole thing has almost been admitted as a swipe at the people who wouldn't pay their security for him.

Crimson Dynamo
08-03-2021, 10:36 PM
16 bathrooms

Privacy

Beso
08-03-2021, 10:37 PM
The skin thing was probably mentioned to harry by one of his pals on a night out.

jet
08-03-2021, 10:54 PM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-interview-ditches-subtlety-in-embrace-of-tabloid-television-fshxnmgbq

Harry and Meghan interview ditches subtlety in embrace of tabloid television
Quentin Letts
Monday March 08 2021, 5.28am, The Times

One o’clock in the morning and the sentries at Windsor Castle were having another quiet night, nothing to ruffle their Busbys. Five thousand miles to the west, kerrump, came eruptions which could send a tsunami across the Atlantic.

As a work of televised theatre, Oprah Winfrey’s interview was soft-focus: the setting bucolic, Queen Oprah in delicate mauve, shots of the royal couple’s pets and — privacy alert — of toddler Archie. There were meaningful, emotive nods as they said “yeah” to each other in the Californian manner.

But the content was unsubtle. This was Semtex in swaddling bands. Cyanide en gelee. The biggest act of strategic self-harm since the scuttling of the German fleet at Scapa Flow. It may have been presented as schmaltz but this two-hour gloopathon was politically ruinous.

“Life is about telling stories, right?” said la Markle, all high-resolution lip gloss. “Telling stories through a truthful lens.” Her eyes sparkled behind lashes as long as ravens’ wings.

Stories were duly delivered, a steaming dump of indiscretions: whinges about money and titles and bodyguards and the rotten tabloid press (which must be quite different from tabloid television). That Kate Cambridge? A B*I*T*C*H! “But I have forgiven her,” purred Meghan with her truthful lens.


Further atrocities: she had had to teach herself the words to God Save the Queen; no one had advised her how to keep her legs crossed; people had been beastly about her on the internet. We had our first blinked-back tear at 1.54am. Either that, or some unfortunate midge had made it past the ravens’ wings and had jabbed her in the eyeball.

Then came the intended killer blow: someone in royal circles had speculated about what skin tone the Sussexes’ baby was going to have. “That conversation I am never going to share,” said Prince Harry, after he and his wife had disgorged its existence to a worldwide audience.

Harry had not appeared in the first half, when we were assured Meghan was not a gold-digger. “I never looked up my husband online,” she claimed, when Oprah asked if she had done her “research”. Harry now took his place alongside his duchess and we found he has started saying “like” and he has the beginnings of an American accent. He disclosed that his father stopped taking his telephone calls for a while. Maybe Charles simply didn’t recognise him with that valley girl uplift.

The programme was entitled Meghan & Harry. Most of us used to put them the other way round. Her Grace wore a dark dress with white splodges. Blasted seagulls. She, in turn, proceeded to deposit industrial quantities of guano on a royal family that had, we heard, welcomed her warmly to their midst. Things only started to go wrong after the row about the bridesmaids’ dresses. Or was it after the couple’s official trip to the Pacific (translation: the rest of “the Firm” were envious of its success)? We heard both.

Further inconsistencies followed. One minute Meghan disclaimed grandeur, the next she was concerned about her “status”. One moment she was unfussed about honorifics, the next she was furious Archie was not going to be a prince. She was astonished when her police protection was withdrawn (bodyguards are a must-have accessory in Hollywood). The next she was writing to the Queen to say she didn’t care less about protection. Oprah let these self-contradictions go through to the wicketkeeper.

It ended with Meghan comparing herself — sorry about this — to the Little Mermaid and Harry saying “time heals all things, hopefully”. Someone possibly said the same to the Earl of Uxbridge at the Battle of Waterloo, even as much of one of his legs was disappearing over the brow

Beso
08-03-2021, 11:06 PM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-interview-ditches-subtlety-in-embrace-of-tabloid-television-fshxnmgbq

Harry and Meghan interview ditches subtlety in embrace of tabloid television
Quentin Letts
Monday March 08 2021, 5.28am, The Times

One o’clock in the morning and the sentries at Windsor Castle were having another quiet night, nothing to ruffle their Busbys. Five thousand miles to the west, kerrump, came eruptions which could send a tsunami across the Atlantic.

As a work of televised theatre, Oprah Winfrey’s interview was soft-focus: the setting bucolic, Queen Oprah in delicate mauve, shots of the royal couple’s pets and — privacy alert — of toddler Archie. There were meaningful, emotive nods as they said “yeah” to each other in the Californian manner.

But the content was unsubtle. This was Semtex in swaddling bands. Cyanide en gelee. The biggest act of strategic self-harm since the scuttling of the German fleet at Scapa Flow. It may have been presented as schmaltz but this two-hour gloopathon was politically ruinous.

“Life is about telling stories, right?” said la Markle, all high-resolution lip gloss. “Telling stories through a truthful lens.” Her eyes sparkled behind lashes as long as ravens’ wings.

Stories were duly delivered, a steaming dump of indiscretions: whinges about money and titles and bodyguards and the rotten tabloid press (which must be quite different from tabloid television). That Kate Cambridge? A B*I*T*C*H! “But I have forgiven her,” purred Meghan with her truthful lens.


Further atrocities: she had had to teach herself the words to God Save the Queen; no one had advised her how to keep her legs crossed; people had been beastly about her on the internet. We had our first blinked-back tear at 1.54am. Either that, or some unfortunate midge had made it past the ravens’ wings and had jabbed her in the eyeball.

Then came the intended killer blow: someone in royal circles had speculated about what skin tone the Sussexes’ baby was going to have. “That conversation I am never going to share,” said Prince Harry, after he and his wife had disgorged its existence to a worldwide audience.

Harry had not appeared in the first half, when we were assured Meghan was not a gold-digger. “I never looked up my husband online,” she claimed, when Oprah asked if she had done her “research”. Harry now took his place alongside his duchess and we found he has started saying “like” and he has the beginnings of an American accent. He disclosed that his father stopped taking his telephone calls for a while. Maybe Charles simply didn’t recognise him with that valley girl uplift.

The programme was entitled Meghan & Harry. Most of us used to put them the other way round. Her Grace wore a dark dress with white splodges. Blasted seagulls. She, in turn, proceeded to deposit industrial quantities of guano on a royal family that had, we heard, welcomed her warmly to their midst. Things only started to go wrong after the row about the bridesmaids’ dresses. Or was it after the couple’s official trip to the Pacific (translation: the rest of “the Firm” were envious of its success)? We heard both.

Further inconsistencies followed. One minute Meghan disclaimed grandeur, the next she was concerned about her “status”. One moment she was unfussed about honorifics, the next she was furious Archie was not going to be a prince. She was astonished when her police protection was withdrawn (bodyguards are a must-have accessory in Hollywood). The next she was writing to the Queen to say she didn’t care less about protection. Oprah let these self-contradictions go through to the wicketkeeper.

It ended with Meghan comparing herself — sorry about this — to the Little Mermaid and Harry saying “time heals all things, hopefully”. Someone possibly said the same to the Earl of Uxbridge at the Battle of Waterloo, even as much of one of his legs was disappearing over the brow



5.28..

Iove the image of him snorting cocaine all night.:joker:

The last paragraph.. :joker:

rusticgal
08-03-2021, 11:57 PM
Lol...yes many contradictions and inconsistencies as I stated on my earlier post.

arista
08-03-2021, 11:59 PM
it was a much bigger crisis for the royals when diana died


No it is not.

arista
09-03-2021, 12:03 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_b7omUYAcuBjM?format=jpg&name=small


Sadly Parmy could not Fix your TV
he would need Triple time & a Bonus to assit.

arista
09-03-2021, 12:12 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_2DkIXEAY_6rm?format=jpg&name=900x900

arista
09-03-2021, 12:19 AM
1369059641150300167

arista
09-03-2021, 12:23 AM
[Meghan Markle's half-sister Samantha SLAMS her
Oprah interview, accusing Duchess of
using 'depression as an excuse to treat
claim that they haven't seen each other in 20 years
Samantha, 56, who shares a father, Thomas,
with Meghan, 39, unleashed a furious rant
against her half-sister in the wake of
her bombshell Oprah interview
On Monday morning, new clips from the
interview showed Meghan discussing her
relationship with her father and Samantha
She accused her dad of 'betraying her' and
said that her half-sister Samantha
'doesn't know her' and claimed
they haven't see each other in 20 years
Samantha shared proof to refute this claim,
sharing images of herself and Meghan at her
college graduation 13 years ago
Meghan also claimed in the interview clips
that Samantha only changed her name back
to Markle when her half-sister began dating Harry
Samantha shared evidence to the contrary,
revealing that she filed a petition to change
her last name to Markle in December 1997
When asked about Meghan's admission that
she struggled with suicidal thoughts, Samantha
accused her of using her mental health as 'an excuse'
'Depression is not an excuse for treating
people like dishrags and disposing of them,
' she said of her half-sibling's struggle]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9340147/Meghan-Markles-half-sister-Samantha-slams-Oprah-interview.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

Glenn.
09-03-2021, 12:23 AM
1369059641150300167

No one cares what this scummy little bitch has to say.

arista
09-03-2021, 12:24 AM
No one cares what this scummy little bitch has to say.


Sure
but we need all viewpoints

Glenn.
09-03-2021, 12:26 AM
Depends what kind of viewpoints they are though. A money hungry scumbag doesn’t count as one

arista
09-03-2021, 12:26 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev8_yk9WgAIb_Sj?format=jpg&name=small

arista
09-03-2021, 12:29 AM
Depends what kind of viewpoints they are though. A money hungry scumbag doesn’t count as one


Its an alternate
I assume she could be on GMBHD itv
in a few hours.

Zizu
09-03-2021, 12:29 AM
Depends what kind of viewpoints they are though. A money hungry scumbag doesn’t count as one



Completely agree


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Glenn.
09-03-2021, 12:34 AM
Its an alternate
I assume she could be on GMBHD itv
in a few hours.

No doubt. Obsessed piers will need someone to have a rant with I suppose

GoldHeart
09-03-2021, 01:07 AM
Because that was off bounds...Oprah not wanting to put her friend in a bad light.

It was said at the beginning that NOTHING IS OFF BOUNDS , maybe they did talk briefly about her family but they had to condense the interview down as it would of been far too long. There has to be structure and not going off at a tangent .

And the fun and games the tabloids & media would have had if this interview was dragged out and broadcast over a few days , no doubt Meghan would be called a "whining drama queen" for taking up soo much air time and blah blah :rolleyes: .

Also what did you want to know about her family?, she said she's lost her dad so clearly that relationship is damaged no thanks to him selling malicious stories on her and doing bitter resentful interviews .

Her dad is obviously a painful topic , plus that wasn't the focus just like her mum wasn't the focus . This was about the reasons why they stepped back and highlighting the royal family but mostly the institution/ firm on a whole and how toxic and unfeeling it is especially behind the scenes.

As i've said already i think Harry& Meghan made the right decision, and i wish them the best and hopefully they've got that peace now . They seem happy with where they live.

arista
09-03-2021, 01:08 AM
[An audience of 17m is a staggeringly low performance in US TV terms.
96.4m watched @SuperBowl
2021.
Last night, pundits were suggesting #MeghanandHarryonOprah might do better..]

arista
09-03-2021, 01:11 AM
1368813607404834816

Cherie
09-03-2021, 05:08 AM
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-interview-ditches-subtlety-in-embrace-of-tabloid-television-fshxnmgbq

Harry and Meghan interview ditches subtlety in embrace of tabloid television
Quentin Letts
Monday March 08 2021, 5.28am, The Times

One o’clock in the morning and the sentries at Windsor Castle were having another quiet night, nothing to ruffle their Busbys. Five thousand miles to the west, kerrump, came eruptions which could send a tsunami across the Atlantic.

As a work of televised theatre, Oprah Winfrey’s interview was soft-focus: the setting bucolic, Queen Oprah in delicate mauve, shots of the royal couple’s pets and — privacy alert — of toddler Archie. There were meaningful, emotive nods as they said “yeah” to each other in the Californian manner.

But the content was unsubtle. This was Semtex in swaddling bands. Cyanide en gelee. The biggest act of strategic self-harm since the scuttling of the German fleet at Scapa Flow. It may have been presented as schmaltz but this two-hour gloopathon was politically ruinous.

“Life is about telling stories, right?” said la Markle, all high-resolution lip gloss. “Telling stories through a truthful lens.” Her eyes sparkled behind lashes as long as ravens’ wings.

Stories were duly delivered, a steaming dump of indiscretions: whinges about money and titles and bodyguards and the rotten tabloid press (which must be quite different from tabloid television). That Kate Cambridge? A B*I*T*C*H! “But I have forgiven her,” purred Meghan with her truthful lens.


Further atrocities: she had had to teach herself the words to God Save the Queen; no one had advised her how to keep her legs crossed; people had been beastly about her on the internet. We had our first blinked-back tear at 1.54am. Either that, or some unfortunate midge had made it past the ravens’ wings and had jabbed her in the eyeball.

Then came the intended killer blow: someone in royal circles had speculated about what skin tone the Sussexes’ baby was going to have. “That conversation I am never going to share,” said Prince Harry, after he and his wife had disgorged its existence to a worldwide audience.

Harry had not appeared in the first half, when we were assured Meghan was not a gold-digger. “I never looked up my husband online,” she claimed, when Oprah asked if she had done her “research”. Harry now took his place alongside his duchess and we found he has started saying “like” and he has the beginnings of an American accent. He disclosed that his father stopped taking his telephone calls for a while. Maybe Charles simply didn’t recognise him with that valley girl uplift.

The programme was entitled Meghan & Harry. Most of us used to put them the other way round. Her Grace wore a dark dress with white splodges. Blasted seagulls. She, in turn, proceeded to deposit industrial quantities of guano on a royal family that had, we heard, welcomed her warmly to their midst. Things only started to go wrong after the row about the bridesmaids’ dresses. Or was it after the couple’s official trip to the Pacific (translation: the rest of “the Firm” were envious of its success)? We heard both.

Further inconsistencies followed. One minute Meghan disclaimed grandeur, the next she was concerned about her “status”. One moment she was unfussed about honorifics, the next she was furious Archie was not going to be a prince. She was astonished when her police protection was withdrawn (bodyguards are a must-have accessory in Hollywood). The next she was writing to the Queen to say she didn’t care less about protection. Oprah let these self-contradictions go through to the wicketkeeper.

It ended with Meghan comparing herself — sorry about this — to the Little Mermaid and Harry saying “time heals all things, hopefully”. Someone possibly said the same to the Earl of Uxbridge at the Battle of Waterloo, even as much of one of his legs was disappearing over the brow


Maybe Charles simply didn’t recognise him with that valley girl uplift.:joker:

Cherie
09-03-2021, 05:09 AM
[Meghan Markle's half-sister Samantha SLAMS her
Oprah interview, accusing Duchess of
using 'depression as an excuse to treat
claim that they haven't seen each other in 20 years
Samantha, 56, who shares a father, Thomas,
with Meghan, 39, unleashed a furious rant
against her half-sister in the wake of
her bombshell Oprah interview
On Monday morning, new clips from the
interview showed Meghan discussing her
relationship with her father and Samantha
She accused her dad of 'betraying her' and
said that her half-sister Samantha
'doesn't know her' and claimed
they haven't see each other in 20 years
Samantha shared proof to refute this claim,
sharing images of herself and Meghan at her
college graduation 13 years ago
Meghan also claimed in the interview clips
that Samantha only changed her name back
to Markle when her half-sister began dating Harry
Samantha shared evidence to the contrary,
revealing that she filed a petition to change
her last name to Markle in December 1997
When asked about Meghan's admission that
she struggled with suicidal thoughts, Samantha
accused her of using her mental health as 'an excuse'
'Depression is not an excuse for treating
people like dishrags and disposing of them,
' she said of her half-sibling's struggle]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9340147/Meghan-Markles-half-sister-Samantha-slams-Oprah-interview.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

Proof of lies ...oh dear

Shaun
09-03-2021, 05:31 AM
I've largely avoided the topic because I cannot fathom how people spend so much of their time and ire directed at these people, so went into the interview last night pretty blindsided (I only watched the first half with just Meghan, haven't watched the rest with the pair of them yet) and I thought she came across as compassionate, calm, and pretty honest and likeable... she also possessed something that seems rare in the royal family: warmth.

I actually quite like Charles (for his environmental and charity work, anyway, don't really have an opinion on his personality) but the queen herself is just... without need for explanation. Very stiff, cold, whatever... to expect much vitality out of a person her age might seem asking too much but she's always been the same in my 30 years of life :shrug:

I think the entire subject is just an excuse for people to exorcise their demons and throw all of their personal problems at a fictional one they've created from appearing on the telly and in the press. It is... beyond desperation, the levels to which trolls (not just on here, but on here as well) will sink to bait a reaction, invade privacy, claim ownership over people's personal lives, invent conspiracy, assert falsehoods, and just show off their complete lack of empathy. It's a disease.

The British identity is in crisis; stuck between archaic tradition and embracing modernity. Desperately seeking to isolate ourselves from Europe but at the same time asserting our influence and importance over the world. As a result it seems the public are split 50/50 (as is now the case with everything) regarding them... some clutching their pearls, expecting Meghan to vanish and never touch Our Beloved Prince And His Nan ever again, others expecting a reenactment of the end of Louis XVI. As always, the solution is probably somewhere down the middle, and in this case I'd highly recommend getting over it and ****ing ignoring them if they make you so irate.

arista
09-03-2021, 05:33 AM
Her Dad will be on
be GMBHD itv.

jet
09-03-2021, 05:37 AM
[An audience of 17m is a staggeringly low performance in US TV terms.
96.4m watched @SuperBowl
2021.
Last night, pundits were suggesting #MeghanandHarryonOprah might do better..]

Oops. :omgno:

Brother Leon
09-03-2021, 05:50 AM
[An audience of 17m is a staggeringly low performance in US TV terms.
96.4m watched @SuperBowl
2021.
Last night, pundits were suggesting #MeghanandHarryonOprah might do better..]

No one or no thing comes close to Super Bowl in US. Come on now.

jet
09-03-2021, 05:50 AM
Meghan’s ‘truth’ was rather, umm, shall we say, heavy on the dramatics and reminiscent of Diana’s early experiences in the ‘Firm’ as told in her tell all book - and which Meghan owned and read as a teenager according to a friend. (Which is why the ‘oh, I hardly knew a thing about the royals or Harry’ lines is iffy.) It’s like she played out Diana’s early Palace experiences as her excuse not to fit in and play on Harrry’s emotions, only this time around the Palace had learned from their mistakes, and were much more careful in their efforts to help her settle. I can’t see any way they were going to make the same errors that they made with Diana all over again.

Every account has been of how everyone involved went out of their way to accommodate Meghan and make her welcome.

A girl who reportedly had several Diana books on her bedroom bookshelf wasn’t as uninformed about the Royals as she let on….Her wide eyed innocence and apparent helplessness in the face of the big bad royals doesn’t ring quite true.
They took away her passport and driving license and kept her locked up in a dungeon, don't you know, so she couldn't get any help as it would look bad. Okayyy....

Their world was a million miles away from what Meghan was used to, but were they deliberately unhelpful or cruel? No way. Bottom line is, Meghan didn’t want to be helped, she had other plans. Imo.

Ammi
09-03-2021, 05:51 AM
...obviously we knew that our own media would be quite filled with it but so much internationally as well and really not great at all for the Royal family... Meghan being the American gal who came to the U.K. to be with her Prince and what she met at the royal palace was a very cold establishment of people ...and some of them seeming very focused on and concerned about the shade of her child’s skin tone...

arista
09-03-2021, 05:56 AM
Now the Black Weatherman
has had a go at Piers Morgan.

GMBHD itv Live



1369176640048275457

Ammi
09-03-2021, 06:02 AM
...Piers Morgan is a bully and appearing more and more so with his relentless and obvious venom targeted at someone who has considered taking her own life because of her unhappy royal establishment experience...

Ammi
09-03-2021, 06:06 AM
...Piers walking off and just leaving the feeling that he doesn’t like to look his own contributions in the face...

Cherie
09-03-2021, 06:07 AM
...obviously we knew that our own media would be quite filled with it but so much internationally as well and really not great at all for the Royal family... Meghan being the American gal who came to the U.K. to be with her Prince and what she met at the royal palace was a very cold establishment of people ...and some of them seeming very focused on and concerned about the shade of her child’s skin tone...


I understood it was one conversation? I know Meghan mentioned conversations (plural) in her opening clip, then Harry blew that out of the water when he was questioned?

AnnieK
09-03-2021, 06:08 AM
No one or no thing comes close to Super Bowl in US. Come on now.

Not only that but I don't think the Americans have that much interest in the Royals any more. Sure, they like to watch a bit of pomp and circumstance and have their picture took outside Buckingham Palace if they visit London but other than that, why would they care? Harry and Meghan to them are no more important than any other celeb living in LA.

Ammi
09-03-2021, 06:13 AM
Not only that but I don't think the Americans have that much interest in the Royals any more. Sure, they like to watch a bit of pomp and circumstance and have their picture took outside Buckingham Palace if they visit London but other than that, why would they care? Harry and Meghan to them are no more important than any other celeb living in LA.

...I think that they are a bit more of an interest now, Annie...(...I agree with Leon about the Super Bowl...)...I think pomp and circumstance is how it has been seen but Harry especially, has now given a ‘a behind the scenes’ glimpse that is entirely different from little old England pomp and circumstance etc...

Smithy
09-03-2021, 06:32 AM
[An audience of 17m is a staggeringly low performance in US TV terms.
96.4m watched @SuperBowl
2021.
Last night, pundits were suggesting #MeghanandHarryonOprah might do better..]

This is probably the stupidest post in the entire thread, these ratings are excellent it’s more than the golden globes and the emmys (which aired last week) COMBINED

Saying it’s low just because the Super Bowl gains 100m viewers is like comparing the World Cup final to an episode of coronation street

AnnieK
09-03-2021, 06:34 AM
...Piers walking off and just leaving the feeling that he doesn’t like to look his own contributions in the face...

Piers just proved what a childish bully he actually is. Alex remained calm and respectful during that exchange and Piers couldn't handle it. Pathetic in all honesty

jet
09-03-2021, 06:35 AM
This is probably the stupidest post in the entire thread, these ratings are excellent it’s more than the golden globes and the emmys (which aired last week) COMBINED

Saying it’s low just because the Super Bowl gains 100m viewers is like comparing the World Cup final to an episode of coronation street

I think the point was that the interview was predicted by the media to get more viewers than the superbowl. :shrug:

Smithy
09-03-2021, 06:37 AM
I think the point was that the interview was predicted by the media to get more viewers than the superbowl. :shrug:

WHERE?! :skull:

Show me one article that even implied this, because that is utter bollocks:joker::joker::joker:

AnnieK
09-03-2021, 06:37 AM
I think the point was that the interview was predicted by the media to get more viewers than the superbowl. :shrug:

By the UK media or US media? That was a bold claim :laugh:

Cherie
09-03-2021, 06:39 AM
Last night, pundits were suggesting #MeghanandHarryonOprah might do better..

I presume Arista heard this? Unless you can categorically say it wasn’t said Smithy?

Oh here it is save you looking

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sussex-interview-with-oprah-winfrey-is-going-to-be-bigger-than-super-bowl-and-oscars-in-us-2d8kr999q

Ammi
09-03-2021, 06:40 AM
Piers just proved what a childish bully he actually is. Alex remained calm and respectful during that exchange and Piers couldn't handle it. Pathetic in all honesty

...he wasn’t controlling it with his own narrative, Annie...he displays that quite a bit, his ignorance to allowing others to have their own voice, even with his own colleagues, Susanna can struggle to find her voice also, I feel...

Glenn.
09-03-2021, 06:52 AM
Why do you use ‘Curious’ regarding the hair and ‘concerned’ regarding skin colour....I used the word ‘Concern’ to both...to make the point ffs.

Meghan used the words ‘concerned’ not me...

Glenn.
09-03-2021, 06:53 AM
Now the Black Weatherman
has had a go at Piers Morgan.

GMBHD itv Live



1369176640048275457

Classic bully move. When confronted and stood up to, the bully has to flee.

jet
09-03-2021, 07:01 AM
WHERE?! :skull:

Show me one article that even implied this, because that is utter bollocks:joker::joker::joker:

Someone on here posted it, can't remember who. :shrug:

Cherie
09-03-2021, 07:03 AM
Someone on here posted it, can't remember who. :shrug:

A quick google shows loads of headlines saying the same thing

Samm
09-03-2021, 07:04 AM
Someone on here posted it, can't remember who. :shrug:

Predicted by one member of a big brother forum.. okay. :joker:

Considering it’s the UK royal family, let’s wait until the viewing figures here are revealed

Smithy
09-03-2021, 07:04 AM
Last night, pundits were suggesting #MeghanandHarryonOprah might do better..

I presume Arista heard this? Unless you can categorically say it wasn’t said Smithy?

Oh here it is save you looking

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sussex-interview-with-oprah-winfrey-is-going-to-be-bigger-than-super-bowl-and-oscars-in-us-2d8kr999q

Ah one article which is behind a pay wall

Very useful :thumbs:

jet
09-03-2021, 07:06 AM
Predicted by one member of a big brother forum.. okay. :joker:

Considering it’s the UK royal family, let’s wait until the viewing figures here are revealed

See Cherie's post above.

Brother Leon
09-03-2021, 07:08 AM
Anyone who expected it to pull in Super Bowl ratings clearly doesn’t understand how huge The SuperBowl is out there. The ratings still crushed anything else in a a Covid era of poor live Media/Entertainment TV Ratings.

Cherie
09-03-2021, 07:08 AM
Ah one article which is behind a pay wall

Very useful :thumbs:

Google it maybe rather than making yourself look ill informed

Ammi
09-03-2021, 07:15 AM
Anyone who expected it to pull in Super Bowl ratings clearly doesn’t understand how huge The SuperBowl is out there. The ratings still crushed anything else in a a Covid era of poor live Media/Entertainment TV Ratings.

...or it was mainly said by the U.K. media in knowing that they’d be able to say....oh you didn’t do that well, did you...much lower than predicted...it’s all media games, I feel...

Smithy
09-03-2021, 07:17 AM
Google it maybe rather than making yourself look ill informed

Why Harry and Meghan drew STAGGERING ratings ( https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/03/08/media/ratings-oprah-meghan-harry/index.html)

HUGE ratings for Meghan and Harry’s interview ( https://amp.smh.com.au/culture/tv-and-radio/huge-ratings-for-meghan-and-harry-s-tell-all-interview-with-oprah-20210309-p578zv.html)

Oprah, Harry and Meghan deliver MEGA RATINGS ( https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomnunan/2021/03/08/oprah-meghan-and-harry-deliver-mega-ratingswhat-was-the-interviews-biggest-reveal/amp/)

Meghan and Harry Ratings deliver a ROYAL FLUSH ( https://deadline.com/2021/03/meghan-markle-prince-harry-oprah-interview-ratings-cbs-1234709005/amp/)

When you google the ratings this is all you seem to find, maybe seeing ONE article which makes a statement shouldn’t be taken as gospel OR as what the majority of people are predicting, now THATS being ill informed

:wavey:

Ammi
09-03-2021, 07:28 AM
...a little off topic because it was also on another channel...but it being revealed that comments had been made about possible skin tone with Archie...and that following on from Panorama earlier last night and ‘Let’s talk about race’ ...and revealing how much, racial prejudice is still very prevalent in our society and impacting people’s lives ...it was a a very interesting watch as well, I would thoroughly recommend...

Cherie
09-03-2021, 07:28 AM
WHERE?! :skull:

Show me one article that even implied this, because that is utter bollocks:joker::joker::joker:

[An audience of 17m is a staggeringly low performance in US TV terms.
96.4m watched @SuperBowl
2021.
Last night, pundits were suggesting #MeghanandHarryonOprah might do better..]

Last night, pundits were suggesting #MeghanandHarryonOprah might do better..

I presume Arista heard this? Unless you can categorically say it wasn’t said Smithy?

Oh here it is save you looking

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sussex-interview-with-oprah-winfrey-is-going-to-be-bigger-than-super-bowl-and-oscars-in-us-2d8kr999q

Why Harry and Meghan drew STAGGERING ratings ( https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/03/08/media/ratings-oprah-meghan-harry/index.html)

HUGE ratings for Meghan and Harry’s interview ( https://amp.smh.com.au/culture/tv-and-radio/huge-ratings-for-meghan-and-harry-s-tell-all-interview-with-oprah-20210309-p578zv.html)

Oprah, Harry and Meghan deliver MEGA RATINGS ( https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomnunan/2021/03/08/oprah-meghan-and-harry-deliver-mega-ratingswhat-was-the-interviews-biggest-reveal/amp/)

Meghan and Harry Ratings deliver a ROYAL FLUSH ( https://deadline.com/2021/03/meghan-markle-prince-harry-oprah-interview-ratings-cbs-1234709005/amp/)

When you google the ratings this is all you seem to find, maybe seeing ONE article which makes a statement shouldn’t be taken as gospel OR as what the majority of people are predicting, now THATS being ill informed

:wavey:


You moved the goalposts you called Arista stupid and now you are trying to gaslight me, show me one post you asked, I did...

don't you know we can see posts you have previously posted :wavey:

Amy Jade
09-03-2021, 07:36 AM
17 million is HUGE

The Queens Christmas message got 8.7 million in comparison

Amy Jade
09-03-2021, 07:36 AM
17 million is HUGE

The Queens Christmas message got 8.7 million in comparison

Cherie
09-03-2021, 07:36 AM
17 million is HUGE

The Queens Christmas message got 8.7 million in comparison

they are figures from the US

not sure we have the UK figures yet?

Amy Jade
09-03-2021, 07:38 AM
Oh right!

I couldn't think of any royal broadcasts to compare it to, perhaps the peados disaster interview

Ammi
09-03-2021, 08:05 AM
Oh right!

I couldn't think of any royal broadcasts to compare it to, perhaps the peados disaster interview

...I have no idea how accurate this would be, Amy...I just picked it out because it’s the most recent, from an hour ago...

Millions of people in the UK are thought to have tuned in to watch the interview with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex that rocked the Royal Family.

Viewing figures for the interview could be on course to match the almost 23 million viewers who watched the 1995 Princess Diana interview where Harry’s mother lifted the lid on the breakdown of her marriage to Prince Charles.

Demand to watch online was so great that many viewers were left complaining of problems trying to watch it on the ITV Hub site.

The programme, which saw Meghan tell Oprah Winfrey a member of the royal family had raised “concerns” when she was pregnant about how dark her son Archie’s skin would be, was repeated on ITV after it was first shown in the US.



https://www.standard.co.uk/insider/royals/meghan-markle-harry-oprah-interview-itv-millions-watch-b922944.html

Amy Jade
09-03-2021, 08:09 AM
So possibly 23 million, wow!

Thanks Ammi

Cherie
09-03-2021, 08:10 AM
I think the figures will be big, we are in lockdown and people are nosy, its hard to compare any figure currently given people have little else to do :laugh:

That said I watched an episode of the Sopranos instead :lovedup:

Cherie
09-03-2021, 08:12 AM
Did you watch on Zoom with your family Ammi and comment gogglebox style :laugh:

Nicky91
09-03-2021, 08:12 AM
curious how many will be tuning in tonight here in my country

Cherie
09-03-2021, 08:15 AM
curious how many will be tuning in tonight here in my country

with curfew :worry: your TV could explode!

Ammi
09-03-2021, 08:28 AM
Did you watch on Zoom with your family Ammi and comment gogglebox style :laugh:

...no, I watched on TiBB with this lovely family...:lovedup:..it was probably less gogglebox and more old style BB, type thread...it felt very nostalgic and perfect...:love:..

bots
09-03-2021, 08:50 AM
i wasn't one of the millions

Denver
09-03-2021, 08:52 AM
A peak of 12.3m watched it

Beso
09-03-2021, 08:53 AM
17 million is HUGE

The Queens Christmas message got 8.7 million in comparison

17million Americans amy...out of how many?

Denver
09-03-2021, 08:54 AM
The one thing I hate is the narrative that Archie was banned from being a Prince for being mixed race when anybody who knows anything about the Royal Family knows only grandchildren in the direct line of throne get titles

jet
09-03-2021, 08:55 AM
I watched some of it then recorded it and watched the rest in small doses this morning. :hee:

jet
09-03-2021, 08:57 AM
17million Americans amy...out of how many?

The current population of U.S. in 2021 is 332,915,073,

Cherie
09-03-2021, 09:00 AM
...no, I watched on TiBB with this lovely family...:lovedup:..it was probably less gogglebox and more old style BB, type thread...it felt very nostalgic and perfect...:love:..

oh appropriate!

arista
09-03-2021, 09:04 AM
they are figures from the US

not sure we have the UK figures yet?


11 million

Times Radio told us

arista
09-03-2021, 09:05 AM
i wasn't one of the millions


Lucky You

Cherie
09-03-2021, 09:06 AM
11 million

Times Radio told us

stunned it was so low!