Gas & Electricty Prices Crises (Poor got £650) 11:30AM Live

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Swan]

Shot:

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Fcuk sake!

[bots]

that 2nd part is dated 2013, 9 years ago. Misrepresentation at its finest

[Swan]

that 2nd part is dated 2013, 9 years ago. Misrepresentation at its finest

It's still typical of these MP's demeaning hypocrisy towards us regulars. It's across the board too. Why are we expected to foot the bill for things like Stable upkeep in the first place? Does this help an MP "serve the people"?

It's all just so scummy and we're expected to just get on with it, and accept.

[arista]

that 2nd part is dated 2013, 9 years ago. Misrepresentation at its finest


Yes better days then
No Covid
No Russia War

[The Slim Reaper]

that 2nd part is dated 2013, 9 years ago. Misrepresentation at its finest

I posted it with the date in full view. Weird to call factual things misrepresentations :shrug:

[bots]

I posted it with the date in full view. Weird to call factual things misrepresentations :shrug:

it's made to look like both events were connected when they are obviously not

[arista]

it's made to look like both events were connected when they are obviously not


Yes
Typical Slim N' Slide...............

[Cherie]

Isn't he worth a 100 million or so such greed

[The Slim Reaper]

it's made to look like both events were connected when they are obviously not

No it isn't. If you can't see the hypocrisy then that's fine, but don't pretend you know what I'm thinking.

[bots]

No it isn't. If you can't see the hypocrisy then that's fine, but don't pretend you know what I'm thinking.

yes it is, it's obviously intentionally misleading

[The Slim Reaper]

yes it is, it's obviously intentionally misleading

Intentionally misleading by presenting all of the information. Ok, Bots. :laugh:

[Cherie]

Just heard a caller to LBC who says that electricity from renewables which is not linked in any way to gas is charged at the same price per kilowat as electricity that is generated by gas, the government are aware of this, and the CEO of Octopus has been trying to get this blanket pricing changed but with no success....I mean wtaf

[bots]

Just heard a caller to LBC who says that electricity from renewables which is not linked in any way to gas is charged at the same price per kilowat as electricity that is generated by gas, the government are aware of this, and the CEO of Octopus has been trying to get this blanket pricing changed but with no success....I mean wtaf

it's because the price of energy is driven by the market price no matter what colour it is

[Gusto Brunt]

Just heard on the radio, a guy who runs a butcher's shop in town, his electric cost next year will be £72,000.

[Swan]

Just heard on the radio, a guy who runs a butcher's shop in town, his electric cost next year will be £72,000.

The knock effect of all this is going to be catastrophic!

[Gusto Brunt]

The knock effect of all this is going to be catastrophic!

It's a living nightmare.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Swan]

How is this allowed to happen?

[Swan]

Maybe the Queen could sell her Crown Jewels and donate the hundreds of millions to the struggling families in her county.

[arista]

How is this allowed to happen?



It has not, yet,
there is time to turn this around

[Cherie]

it's because the price of energy is driven by the market price no matter what colour it is

From what I have read there is some archaic law that everything is linked to the price of gas....no point touting renewables as the saviour if they don’t cut this link and fast

[arista]

In Germany
A hotel, is to close
in order for a factory to continue in business.


Ref: BBC newspaper review.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[bots]

they are all career politicians. The only thing that is important to them is furthering their careers. Why is anyone surprised that they are missing in action

[MTVN]

This summer of inaction has been the most damaging thing to happen to the Tory party in the last few years, much worse than any of Boris' scandals

[Gusto Brunt]

This summer of inaction has been the most damaging thing to happen to the Tory party in the last few years, much worse than any of Boris' scandals

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[Cherie]

This summer of inaction has been the most damaging thing to happen to the Tory party in the last few years, much worse than any of Boris' scandals

Bojo should shoulder the blame, he is still the PM...rocking up in Ukraine the other day but has not taken the time to address the nation, this situation is as serious as covid if not more so as it affects everyone, he should have used that new media room he spent millions on to address the nation, and he should have brought Truss and Sunak with him and to take questions from the media

[Gusto Brunt]

Everyone keeps talking about the huge energy costs - rightly so.

But people are forgetting about price rises. As well as more help with paying for our energy, the government MUST give more money to the poor to pay for food.

NOW.:fist:

[arista]

Everyone keeps talking about the huge energy costs - rightly so.

But people are forgetting about price rises. As well as more help with paying for our energy, the government MUST give more money to the poor to pay for food.

NOW.:fist:


No
21st Sept Emergency Budget

[Swan]

Russia is burning over £8m worth of gas each day because, according to Germany's ambassador to the UK "they have nowhere else to sell it"

[bots]

I wonder how close we will be to rioting before we get to the end of the year. I lived through the thatcher era and what we are about to face in the next couple of years is much worse than that, which to me is the only similar circumstance we have had

[arista]

Germany is now keeping their 3 Nuke Power stations running,
Massive U turn.


Ref: LBC Debate

[Strictly Jake]

Just genuinely worried. I can't pay my bills now let alone in October then whenever it goes up next year. It's all getting on top of me. Will they cut it off if I can't afford it?

[arista]

Just genuinely worried. I can't pay my bills now let alone in October then whenever it goes up next year. It's all getting on top of me. Will they cut it off if I can't afford it?


Emergency Budget
can change it all.

[Strictly Jake]

Emergency Budget
can change it all.

But will it happen

[arista]

But will it happen


Yes the New PM
in 10 days
Will set it all up.

[Strictly Jake]

Like it's my fault for not saving up even though we were told it would happen. But I'm not joking even at the moment I'm relying on emergency credit on my electric meter every week. So yeah I'm screwed

[bots]

Yes the New PM
in 10 days
Will set it all up.

i think you are being overly optimistic Arista. Truss won't be helping those that are struggling the most, because she doesn't see them as the people who would vote for her

[arista]

Like it's my fault for not saving up even though we were told it would happen. But I'm not joking even at the moment I'm relying on emergency credit on my electric meter every week. So yeah I'm screwed


Many are like you.


This is why the New PM
will change it all

[Gusto Brunt]

No
21st Sept Emergency Budget

I am not expecting much. Probably about £150.

[Gusto Brunt]

My friend just told me she had just £5 to spend on food last week after paying her July/August electric bill that was £101.61. That's four weeks' electric. In SUMMER.

She had to borrow £10, because £5 just wasn't enough. Even so, £15 food budget for seven days is just insane.

This is all a living nightmaree. :(

[arista]

I am not expecting much. Probably about £150.


No
thats NOT going to cover this mess.


It has to be bigger changes

[arista]

My friend just told me she had just £5 to spend on food last week after paying her July/August electric bill that was £101.61. That's four weeks' electric. In SUMMER.

She had to borrow £10, because £5 just wasn't enough. Even so, £15 food budget for seven days is just insane.

This is all a living nightmaree. :(



Yes a Caller live on LBC
wanted to end his life
The Presenter Sangita Myska
asked him to stay on the line
for her producer to give advice

[Cherie]

My friend just told me she had just £5 to spend on food last week after paying her July/August electric bill that was £101.61. That's four weeks' electric. In SUMMER.

She had to borrow £10, because £5 just wasn't enough. Even so, £15 food budget for seven days is just insane.

This is all a living nightmaree. :(

Deos she live on her own, because that is the same as our electric bill and there are 3 of us

[Cherie]

Like it's my fault for not saving up even though we were told it would happen. But I'm not joking even at the moment I'm relying on emergency credit on my electric meter every week. So yeah I'm screwed

apparently you can contact your supplier and they are duty bound to offer you a payment plan, not sure if they will but it is worth a try.

Currently the only help will be 67.00 off your electric bill from Oct to Mar...:umm2:

[bots]

i think that they either help customers with payments or more and more people will default on their payments. It's basically one or the other. They won't cut people off because the optics for the energy company would be atrocious

[arista]

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[Vanessa]

Deos she live on her own, because that is the same as our electric bill and there are 3 of us

Yes, that doesn't sound right for one person.
I'm alone and never spend that much in a month.

[bots]

my electric doesn't change much between winter and summer. All my lights are led's so the longer nights make zero difference

[Gusto Brunt]

Deos she live on her own, because that is the same as our electric bill and there are 3 of us

She lives alone. But I agree, that's a whopping bill. I think she may be on direct debit or something nasty. I'll ask.

[Gusto Brunt]

Yes a Caller live on LBC
wanted to end his life
The Presenter Sangita Myska
asked him to stay on the line
for her producer to give advice

Awful. :(

[Gusto Brunt]

Deos she live on her own, because that is the same as our electric bill and there are 3 of us

Asked her tonight and she pays direct debit.

[Cherie]

Asked her tonight and she pays direct debit.

When some companies put up the DD in April the rise was 54% but some DDs went up by 100%, she needs to look back at what she was paying in March and calculate what they increased the DD by, does she have alot of credit building up because she can ask for it back if she has, she will have to look at her bills and see what she is actually using so she can judge if she is over paying

That DD she is on now will rise to 180.00 in Oct more or less

She will get 67.00 off from Oct to March as every household will get 400.00 split over 6 months off the electric bill

[Gusto Brunt]

When some companies put up the DD in April the rise was 54% but some DDs went up by 100%, she needs to look back at what she was paying in March and calculate what they increased the DD by, does she have alot of credit building up because she can ask for it back if she has, she will have to look at her bills and see what she is actually using so she can judge if she is over paying

That DD she is on now will rise to 180.00 in Oct more or less

She will get 67.00 off from Oct to March as every household will get 400.00 split over 6 months off the electric bill

Thanks. I will pass it on. :)

[Cherie]

Thanks. I will pass it on. :)

Paying by DD she gets a cheaper rate than paying a quarterly bill but it ionly works out a good deal if the DD is appropriately set at the right price

[Gusto Brunt]

Paying by DD she gets a cheaper rate than paying a quarterly bill but it ionly works out a good deal if the DD is appropriately set at the right price

You're right. Almost cleared out her bank account all but £5. Fancy having to borrow £10 to eat. Damn disgrace. :fist:

Thanks. :)

[bots]

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[arista]

Meanwhile In Russia they
are Constantly Burning Gas 24/7
An utter waste that so many need.
(CNN HD reported)

[Swan]

Meanwhile In Russia they
are Constantly Burning Gas 24/7
An utter waste that so many need.
(CNN HD reported)

Yep, over £8m worth a day. They said they have no one to sell it to.

[arista]

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[arista]

BBC Text:
[Ms Truss will approve a series of oil
and gas drilling licenses in the North Sea
in one of her first acts as prime minister as
part of a long-term plan to secure Britain's energy security.]

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[arista]

BBC Text:
[European Commission President
Ursula von der Leyen, who says
"we need a new market model for
electricity that really functions".]

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[Gusto Brunt]

There's just been a report on GB News about fish and chips shops suffering through rises prices and huge energy costs. :(

On a much lighter note, they showed an old couple eating fish and chips outside a seaside shop, and the old guy (aged about 70) said, 'fish and chips were much better in newspaper.'

I hear this all the time, especially on Facebook. Let's get it straight. Fish and chips were NEVER wrapped directly onto dirty, ink-ridden newspaper. I should know because one of my uncles had a fish and chips shop in the 1970s and he always told us the fish and chips were FIRST wrapped in grease-proof paper and then the old newspapers were used to keep the fish and chips hot. At no point were fish and chips in direct contact with newspaper.

What people like the old guy are saying is that his old fish and chips suppers 'tasted better' when they were in direct contact with dirty newspaper and ink. :p

It's a myth that seemed imprinted onto the brains of people over 60. :p

[arista]

There's just been a report on GB News about fish and chips shops suffering through rises prices and huge energy costs. :(

On a much lighter note, they showed an old couple eating fish and chips outside a seaside shop, and the old guy (aged about 70) said, 'fish and chips were much better in newspaper.'

I hear this all the time, especially on Facebook. Let's get it straight. Fish and chips were NEVER wrapped directly onto dirty, ink-ridden newspaper. I should know because one of my uncles had a fish and chips shop in the 1970s and he always told us the fish and chips were FIRST wrapped in grease-proof paper and then the old newspapers were used to keep the fish and chips hot. At no point were fish and chips in direct contact with newspaper.

What people like the old guy are saying is that his old fish and chips suppers 'tasted better' when they were in direct contact with dirty newspaper and ink. :p

It's a myth that seemed imprinted onto the brains of people over 60. :p




Yes a Mature Couple
eating their fish and chips
said £23 for 2 cod and chips.


I would expect it to go even higher.

[arista]

Up North
Cafe pays £10,000
for Electric a year.

It now is going cost £55,000 a year.

It has to Close Down.

LBC Live Debate


The Left Winger
also stated what will happen with the dead?
stored in fridges costing a fortune, now.

[Cherie]

Up North
Cafe pays £10,000
for Electric a year.

It now is going cost £55,000 a year.

It has to Close Down.

LBC Live Debate


The Left Winger
also stated what will happen with the dead?
stored in fridges costing a fortune, now.


Insane, this should be front page news

[bots]

i'm in no doubt that there will be riots if there is not a fundamental change in government policy on this. This is probably the worst crisis the country has ever faced. It's much, much worse than covid

[arista]

Insane, this should be front page news

It should be tomorrow
in time for,
the Final Conservative Hustings
Live 7PM London online

[arista]

i'm in no doubt that there will be riots if there is not a fundamental change in government policy on this. This is probably the worst crisis the country has ever faced. It's much, much worse than covid



Yes, this is why the New Leader,
must change the Ownership.
Even if it is
against their politics

The Company can be owned by the French
but the UK Division "could" be under Temp UK Government
ownership

[arista]

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This Fella as Guest on Ch5HD Extra
said:
stop Hot Meals in Schools
serve the Kids Sandwiches and Fruit.

And Turn off all the Vending Machines

In order to Cut their Energy Bills

[Vanessa]

Someone said
stop Hot Meals in Schools
serve the Kids Sandwiches and Fruit.

And Turn off all the Vending Machines

In order to Cut their Energy Bills

A sandwich is fine. That's what I usually had when I was going to school.

[arista]

A sandwich is fine. That's what I usually had when I was going to school.


Some like a Hot Meal, though


But in order to Cut the Gas /Electric Bills
Maybe its fair enough for a while

[The Slim Reaper]

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This Fella as Guest on Ch5HD Extra
said:
stop Hot Meals in Schools
serve the Kids Sandwiches and Fruit.

And Turn off all the Vending Machines

In order to Cut their Energy Bills

Doesn't really work for low-income children. Their school meal may be the only hot meal they get in a day, especially with the increasing financial constraints being placed on already stretched parents.

Starving kids, and freezing pensioners is the biggest indictment on a government you repeatedly cheer on, especially the cruelty.

[arista]

Doesn't really work for low-income children. Their school meal may be the only hot meal they get in a day, especially with the increasing financial constraints being placed on already stretched parents.

Starving kids, and freezing pensioners is the biggest indictment on a government you repeatedly cheer on, especially the cruelty.


Yes, make those schools Exempt



And Pensioners can pop off to the Library to keep warm
9AM to 4PM


No Cruelty, Slim.

[bots]

the biggest issue is going to be with the elderly. They are very vulnerable and many are too proud to look or ask for assistance. It could be carnage if its a cold winter

[Cherie]

Yes, make those schools Exempt



And Pensioners can pop off to the Library to keep warm
9AM to 4PM


No Cruelty, Slim.

What if they are housebound?

[bots]

Yes, make those schools Exempt



And Pensioners can pop off to the Library to keep warm
9AM to 4PM


No Cruelty, Slim.

you do realise that many pensioners are housebound Arista?

[Cherie]

Some guy rang in yesterday who lives in Hungary their government said they were not paying and prices are the same as a year ago but then they are a Russian friendly country

[bots]

a lot of eastern european countries will likely have the same system they have in Russia, where central heating is provided at a central hub and the hot water for the radiators is then pumped out to all the apartment blocks

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes, make those schools Exempt



And Pensioners can pop off to the Library to keep warm
9AM to 4PM


No Cruelty, Slim.

Most schools have a split in free-meal and no free-meal recipients, so the exemption would basically apply to all state run schools, making the original suggestion completely useless.

Tories have spent 12 years closing libraries and other essential community services in the name of austerity driven debt reduction, whilst at the same time as more than doubling the debt (before the pandemic). Even if all pensioners were mobile and active (they aren't), there is no way all of them are within reach of a library. On top of that, they shouldn't be forced to leave their houses for basic rights.

[arista]

"Tories have spent 12 years closing libraries"


Yes those Pensioners
in the zones with No Library
can pop off to a Council Owned Warm Center

[Swan]

Most schools have a split in free-meal and no free-meal recipients, so the exemption would basically apply to all state run schools, making the original suggestion completely useless.

Tories have spent 12 years closing libraries and other essential community services in the name of austerity driven debt reduction, whilst at the same time as more than doubling the debt (before the pandemic). Even if all pensioners were mobile and active (they aren't), there is no way all of them are within reach of a library. On top of that, they shouldn't be forced to leave their houses for basic rights.

Correct!

[arista]

you do realise that many pensioners are housebound Arista?



Yes for those
that are housebound
more layers of clothing, for them.

[The Slim Reaper]

"Tories have spent 12 years closing libraries"


Yes those Pensioners
in the zones with No Library
can pop off to a Council Owned Warm Center

Again, Arista, why do people have to work around your government to get the things that should be provided? The basic job of government is to take care of, and protect the citizenry. Why do you continually swap this basic requirement, as long as they are cruel to the same people you hate?

[bots]

Yes for those
that are housebound
more layers of clothing, for them.

thats not a solution. An unheated house becomes damp very quickly in winter which is a killer in itself. Water pipes will burst, lights will blow

[The Slim Reaper]

thats not a solution. An unheated house becomes damp very quickly in winter which is a killer in itself. Water pipes will burst, lights will blow

Exactly - damp and mould are killers in winter, not just temperature.

[arista]

Exactly - damp and mould are killers in winter, not just temperature.


Yes they need their homes
made safe

Free of Charge

[arista]

Also
Post out Free LED Torches for some Old Folk
with a USB charger cable.

And Portable Power Bank
that others can charge up for them

[The Slim Reaper]

Also
Post out Free LED Torches for some Old Folk
with a USB charger cable.

And Portable Power Bank
that others can charge up for them

There you go, Ethel, warm yourself up with a torch :laugh:

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[arista]

No Slim
thats an Old type torch

They will Brighter LED Torches


They are for if their lights blow
not for keeping warm

[bots]

we could have local bonfires of the vanities, that would be cool

[The Slim Reaper]

No Slim
thats a Old type torch

They will Brighter LED Torches

My bad. For a minute it sounded like a ridiculous suggestion, but now you've said it's a different *checks notes torch, then suddenly it all falls into place and makes sense now :laugh:

[Cherie]

It's a good way to get people back into the office ....

[The Slim Reaper]

GB news cutting out the BS and getting right to the heart of the problem


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[bots]

i'm struggling to see how this can be the fault of remainers in any universe :laugh:

[Liam-]

God, Dan Wootton truly is a repugnant sack of **** isn’t he, genuinely one of the worst people involved in British media, scum of the highest order

[arista]

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Nice Fresh Food
made there.
Be sad if it does, have to close
Due to no help on the Energy prices
until after Monday 5th Sept.


At £1.95
I would try a Fresh Cup Cake

[arista]

SkyNewsHD text:
[German manufacturers are halting production
in response to the surge in energy prices caused
by Russia's squeeze on gas supplies,
according to the Financial Times.]


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[arista]

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[Denver]

So apparently Liss Truss is planning on freezing prices of gas to forces energy companies to sell electricity and gas at a loss and is planning a £100b package to stop the UK hitting fuel poverty

[arista]

So apparently Liss Truss is planning on freezing prices of gas to forces energy companies to sell electricity and gas at a loss and is planning a £100b package to stop the UK hitting fuel poverty



Yes 4pm Tomorrow
we should get the details.

Martin Lewis is Co-Presenting
GMBHD itv on mondays.

[arista]

Good

OVO Energy CEO
says new plans are now going to happen


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[Cherie]

So apparently Liss Truss is planning on freezing prices of gas to forces energy companies to sell electricity and gas at a loss and is planning a £100b package to stop the UK hitting fuel poverty

They are not selling at a loss they will have bought this gas last year, next year maybe but not this year

[bots]

i will be surprised if she does anything over and above what she has already said ... tax cuts, ni walkback and removal of green levy

[letmein]

i'm in no doubt that there will be riots if there is not a fundamental change in government policy on this. This is probably the worst crisis the country has ever faced. It's much, much worse than covid

The worst crisis the country has ever faced? WWII for starters says hello.

[Denver]

Insiders are saying she is expected to announce a new law that will see fuel bills locked at the current price on Thursday

[Cherie]

Looks like fuel bills will be frozen until the next election....this is not a freebie apparently it will be added to our bills going forward for years p, so will not be paid for by the huge profits of the energy companies who are profiteering from the war

[arista]

Yes 2 years is a Good Measure

[bots]

Looks like fuel bills will be frozen until the next election....this is not a freebie apparently it will be added to our bills going forward for years p, so will not be paid for by the huge profits of the energy companies who are profiteering from the war

it will stifle growth for decades.

[joeysteele]

The Lib Dems and Labour are right.
This is a massive crisis now.

It calls for immediate crisis management

The freezing of the cap NOW before the October rise is the way to address the rest of Autumn and Winter 6 months, is the breathing space vital.

Yes, then a plan needs to be brought in for post April with the knowledge of the situation then obviously.

However for this immediate period from now up to April, the freezing of the cap, halting the price increases is the ideal way to ease the tensions, worries and see to the needs right now.

[The Slim Reaper]

This debate is depressing (not on here), but folks are already struggling so a freeze now will already kill people this winter. Tax the fcuking companies and the rich, don't put a 10-20 year energy mortgage on bills.

[arista]

Yes 18months Energy Freeze

Government
Costing as £130 Billion loans

Ref: Simon Jack
BBCnewsHD



This was the Scottish Power Plan the CEO gave to them
some time ago.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes 18months Energy Freeze

Government
Costing as £130 Billion loans

Ref: Simon Jack
BBCnewsHD



This was the Scottish Power Plan the CEO gave to them
some time ago.

A plan provided by energy companies will always be the worst plan to go with, because they only want profits, and nothing must interfere with that goal.

[arista]

A plan provided by energy companies will always be the worst plan to go with, because they only want profits, and nothing must interfere with that goal.



You are lucky you ain't in Germany
as Hot Water went on Ration



The Plan saves us all from Deadly Energy Bills



It is now the same Trouble over Europe

[bots]

A plan provided by energy companies will always be the worst plan to go with, because they only want profits, and nothing must interfere with that goal.

yeah, i agree. The other thing they must do is take energy costs out of the inflation calculations because its making us react monetarily in the wrong way

[arista]

The Energy Price Freeze

Is to be announced this Thursday.

New Prime Minister, Truss.

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

You are lucky you ain't in Germany
as Hot Water went on Ration



The Plan saves us all from Deadly Energy Bills



It is now the same Trouble over Europe

They're already deadly. If you want to help people, they need to be returned to relative normality, energy companies are making hundreds of billions during this crisis, so they must be made to lose those to ensure folks can survive.

There is a weird game being played at the moment, that the current prices are acceptable. They aren't, so this is what needs to be addressed, rather than tying ourselves in knots to make sure the energy company shareholders get their windfalls.

Playing with peoples lives is not an acceptable role for government, even during the era of capitalism on steroids.

[arista]

We will see on Thursday.


It is good the New PM
is doing something.

[MTVN]

Not sure how good a solution it is to spend billions on universal bills help rather than targeting it at the most needy

What about businesses who have no energy cap and are at serious risk of going under in droves (and also who can't really modify their own energy usage)

[arista]

Not sure how good a solution it is to spend billions on universal bills help rather than targeting it at the most needy

What about businesses who have no energy cap and are at serious risk of going under in droves (and also who can't really modify their own energy usage)


It is the faster way
to deal with it.


Home and Business
both need this reduction

[bots]

Tens of thousands of businesses are at risk of going under without government support because of soaring energy bills, according to insolvency experts.

Red Flag Alert, which monitors the financial health of firms, told the BBC previously profitable companies are experiencing significant losses.

Among those that survive, many will be forced to make workers redundant, the consultancy said.

Firms are waiting to hear if they will get help with their energy bills.

On Thursday the government, led by new prime minister, Liz Truss, is expected to announce significant financial support for households facing an 80% rise in the energy price cap in October.

Businesses are not covered by the cap, however, and Red Flag is warning that more than 75,000 larger firms that are high energy users are at risk of insolvency or are likely to lay off staff without government support.

The government's plan is expected to include some relief for businesses - but details are not yet known.

According to Red Flag, many firms will face a choice between paying wages or paying energy bills.

"Businesses can't absorb these costs and they're going to be forced very quickly into a decision about headcount or being able to pay energy bills," said chief economist Nicola Headlam. "That's going to be the reality and it's coming down the track very quickly."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62813782

[arista]

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Yes, Germany are worse than us

[Cherie]

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Yes, Germany are worse than us



hot water switched off for washing hands....err, what about covid....and singing happy birthday twice :laugh: jeez that got old quickly

[bots]

people do need to be re-educated on how to save energy, but most of the measures i've seen recommended are completely stupid. Things like switching a device from standby to off will save something like £1 per year.... why on earth would a responsible source publish something like that when our bills are thousands of pounds :facepalm:

[The Slim Reaper]

people do need to be re-educated on how to save energy, but most of the measures i've seen recommended are completely stupid. Things like switching a device from standby to off will save something like £1 per year.... why on earth would a responsible source publish something like that when our bills are thousands of pounds :facepalm:

Because they don't care is the simple answer. They and their publications have spent 12 years telling us that this tory was going to save Britain and awake our potential, or that tory was, whilst all the time knowing that none of their policies have ever been successful. Trickle down does not now, or has ever worked, cutting regulations only increases profits at the expense of the living standards for everyone else, the attack on workers rights only benefits the billionaires.

We've had to bail out capitalism 3 times since 2008, and giving us 20 year energy mortgages is a continuation of that thinking. Anything to keep profits for shareholders raining down.

[arista]

Today Live in Parliament today
Prime Minister Truss gives
us her Energy Price Freeze.

For Business as well.

[bots]

Lets see, by my reckoning its going to be frozen at £2500 typical, which is still £700 a year more than people were paying last year

[MTVN]

Lets see, by my reckoning its going to be frozen at £2500 typical, which is still £700 a year more than people were paying last year

People are still getting the £400 help though so the rise will be massively dented

[bots]

People are still getting the £400 help though so the rise will be massively dented

yes, but i dont think that will go on past this winter. I mean, i'm glad its going to be capped, and i have a fixed deal for 2 years, so I'm fine, but i still think its going to be tough for a lot of people going forward

[Gusto Brunt]

Not sure how good a solution it is to spend billions on universal bills help rather than targeting it at the most needy

What about businesses who have no energy cap and are at serious risk of going under in droves (and also who can't really modify their own energy usage)

It's a sh** idea. The poor and low paid will still suffer under Truss' plans to cut taxes and freeze energy caps.

[Cherie]

It's a sh** idea. The poor and low paid will still suffer under Truss' plans to cut taxes and freeze energy caps.

Everyone will benefit from an energy price freeze, unless you think going up by 80% in October is not going to affect people?

[Gusto Brunt]

Everyone will benefit from an energy price freeze, unless you think going up by 80% in October is not going to affect people?

Freezing the price as it is now is still more than double what I was paying last year.

And then we have the prices of food going up.

[Cherie]

Freezing the price as it is now is still more than double what I was paying last year.

And then we have the prices of food going up.

I appreciate that we are paying alot more than this time last year, however anyone on Universal credit has got 650.00 plus the 400.00 plus 150 council tax rebate (if they pay it) plus 150.00 additional credit for anyone on disability benefit so I think adding all those together they will be paying below what they paid last year, plus there is winter fuel allowance for pensioners I think? food prices are another matter but again there is help out there via food banks, and food hubs, hopefully freezing the energy prices will bring down inflation :fc: tbf it is as usual the people in the middle who get no help....well we get 400.00 I suppose but ...

[Cherie]

I am more concerned about we is going to pay for the freeze, it should 100% be from a windfall tax, not adding it to billis for decades to come

[bots]

it's live in a few mins

[arista]

11:30AM


Is when she will start

[bots]

I am more concerned about we is going to pay for the freeze, it should 100% be from a windfall tax, not adding it to billis for decades to come

in terms of % of GDP, the UK is currently borrowing a lot less than the other G7 countries, so we can realistically borrow more. Also, europe and the rest of the world are going to be borrowing shedloads too. Also, the freeze will push the inflation rate down which will reduce the prices of everything across the board. So, i do see the logic in it

[arista]

I am more concerned about we is going to pay for the freeze, it should 100% be from a windfall tax, not adding it to billis for decades to come


Over 20 years
so not so bad

[arista]

Starmer is seated


Prime Minister running a few mins late

[bots]

Over 20 years
so not so bad

20 years of the disadvantaged being more disadvantaged is very bad

[arista]

20 years of the disadvantaged being more disadvantaged is very bad




We need to see the numbers
when it is announced, in a min

[arista]

We are Live



LBC
SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD
Radio5
ITV1HD

[arista]

The Speaker
getting fed up with those shouting.

[arista]

She must stop giving way to her own side.


She speaks slow

[arista]

Daily Mail.

[Energy bills will be capped at a typical £2,500
for households for up to two years
Including other help most people will
see little change from existing bills
There will be a separate package
for businesses, although the details are not yet clear
The policy could cost the government £150billion,
depending on moves in gas prices,
meaning far more borrowing]

[arista]

Pumping out Cash
for Business.

[arista]

Daily Mail Live

[What is Truss proposing
Energy bills will be capped at a typical
£2,500 for households from
October 1 for two years
That includes temporarily
suspending green levies,
but with £400 handout most people will
see little change from existing
bills this year
The government will pay energy suppliers
the difference between what they
charge consumers and what the
price would have been
Businesses will get 'equivalent' support
for at least six months operated through
the wholesale energy market
The policy could cost the government
£150billion, depending on moves in
gas prices, meaning far more borrowing
Ministers hope the plan will reduce
the headline CPI inflation rate by
between 4 per cent and 5 per cent
Action to enhance longer-term energy
supplies include lifting the ban on fracking,
and issuing more licences for
North Sea oil and gas]

[arista]

Starmer now doing his Reply

[Gusto Brunt]

Interesting to note, Truss slagged off Sunak and yet in this speech she is making now she has bragged about the £400 for energy bills. THAT Sunak put in place.

Hmm, it doesn't look like the poor and low paid are gonna get any more help with rising food prices and eergy.

No surprise.

[arista]

Interesting to note, Truss slagged off Sunak and yet in this speech she is making now she has bragged about the £400 for energy bills. THAT Sunak put in place.

Hmm, it doesn't look like the poor and low paid are gonna get any more help with rising food prices and eergy.

No surprise.

Yes shops are rushing to add APPS
like Lidl now doing Lidlplus
spend £100 you get a £2 OFF Coupon

Asda UK Get 10% off in George in your Cash Pot?

[arista]

Some are now saying it is more like
the Government, borrowing £200 Billion

[Cherie]

Over 20 years
so not so bad

why should the public pay for it the energy companies are profiteering off a war, if they had any conscience, they would hand it over without being asked, this is 170bn ADDITIONAL profit they have made off a war

blood on their hands

[bots]

why should the public pay for it the energy companies are profiteering off a war, if they had any conscience, they would hand it over without being asked, this is 170bn ADDITIONAL profit they have made off a war

blood on their hands

i think they will have to reverse their position on this. Excess profits should be used to pay toward the debt, not the most disadvantaged for the next 20 years

[Cherie]

i think they will have to reverse their position on this. Excess profits should be used to pay toward the debt, not the most disadvantaged for the next 20 years

and from what I heard just now the energy companies panicked and locked in at a much higher price so why are we paying for their mis judgement

[arista]

why should the public pay for it the energy companies are profiteering off a war, if they had any conscience, they would hand it over without being asked, this is 170bn ADDITIONAL profit they have made off a war

blood on their hands


Yes It's who is in Power


Labour 2 years to have go
to try to get in Power

[The Slim Reaper]

Liz's biggest donor in her leadership election was the former head of BP. Those profits aren't going anywhere.

[Cherie]

Liz's biggest donor in her leadership election was the former head of BP. Those profits aren't going anywhere.

and she worked for Shell

Labour just need to put it in their manifesto if they can do a retrospective windfall tax and in they go

[arista]

and she worked for Shell

Labour just need to put it in their manifesto if they can do a retrospective windfall tax and in they go



Good on Cherie


Correcting Sloppy Slim

[The Slim Reaper]

Good on Cherie


Correcting Sloppy Slim

That's an addition, not a correction. The queen thread needs you more than this one.

[bots]

i think public pressure will sort it out, Liz doesnt want such a bad start to her premiership. Everyone laughed at me when i highlighted it, but liz only had 50 tory mp's backing her at the start of the leadership election. She will get hammered very quickly if mps think public opinion is going against them

[arista]

That's an addition, not a correction. The queen thread needs you more than this one.

Bollocks

[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

Parliament needs to legislate
The new Energy Reduction Price.

This 7 day mourning of the Queen
stops it.


They have to work it out,
and sort it

[Beso]

Bollocks

Pffft

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Cherie]

1569274107136458752

Wont the emergency budget cover it?

[bots]

also, isnt it october when we get our first £60 or whatever it is and that is already scheduled

[arista]

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[bots]

Rich households will receive twice as much support aimed at reducing the cost of living than poorer households next year, a think tank has claimed.

The Resolution Foundation said if the government cuts National Insurance and limits energy bill rises, richer homes will get £4,700 in 2023, compared to £2,200 for the poorest.

A typical household energy bill will be limited to £2,500 annually until 2024.

The think tank said "details and costings" were missing from the plan.

The huge support scheme could cost up to £150bn, but Prime Minister Liz Truss has refused to put a figure on it, saying "extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures".

The Department for Business could not offer a comment when contacted by the BBC, due to the period of national mourning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62882964

:skull:

[Cherie]

Rich households will receive twice as much support aimed at reducing the cost of living than poorer households next year, a think tank has claimed.

The Resolution Foundation said if the government cuts National Insurance and limits energy bill rises, richer homes will get £4,700 in 2023, compared to £2,200 for the poorest.

A typical household energy bill will be limited to £2,500 annually until 2024.

The think tank said "details and costings" were missing from the plan.

The huge support scheme could cost up to £150bn, but Prime Minister Liz Truss has refused to put a figure on it, saying "extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures".

The Department for Business could not offer a comment when contacted by the BBC, due to the period of national mourning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62882964

:skull:

This was pointed out time and again to Truss during the hustings, but she kept going on with the same mantra and people keeping money in their pockets

[Oliver_W]

Rich households will receive twice as much support aimed at reducing the cost of living than poorer households next year, a think tank has claimed.

The Resolution Foundation said if the government cuts National Insurance and limits energy bill rises, richer homes will get £4,700 in 2023, compared to £2,200 for the poorest.

A typical household energy bill will be limited to £2,500 annually until 2024.

The think tank said "details and costings" were missing from the plan.

The huge support scheme could cost up to £150bn, but Prime Minister Liz Truss has refused to put a figure on it, saying "extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures".

The Department for Business could not offer a comment when contacted by the BBC, due to the period of national mourning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62882964

:skull:
Is that due the help being in flat rates and percentages rather than means tested amounts? And I guess bigger houses cost more to heat and power than small houses.

[bots]

what cracked me up was how the department couldnt respond because they are mourning

[Gusto Brunt]

Last month I decided to turn the freezer off and just store fresh food in the fridge.

My new electric bill in for this moth and it's £15.00 less than last month. Just shows how much electric freezers use.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Cherie]

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That is nothing with to do with taking control though, if Labour were in power they would tax the energy giants, Tories will find themselves out on their ear after the next election due to this insane policy

[The Slim Reaper]

That is nothing with to do with taking control though, if Labour were in power they would tax the energy giants, Tories will find themselves out on their ear after the next election due to this insane policy

Taking back control was the leave message, whereas the EU are taking direct action. This version of labour plan on protecting the energy companies and giving them money, too.

[bots]

what gets me is that no-one is talking about eating into the energy companies legit profits, its only the money that was demonstrably earned by the war. The government will have to do a U turn at some point

[Cherie]

what gets me is that no-one is talking about eating into the energy companies legit profits, its only the money that was demonstrably earned by the war. The government will have to do a U turn at some point

And that renewable energy tracks the gas price, though we keep being told investing in renewables is the way forward really grinds my gears

[Zizu]

Last month I decided to turn the freezer off and just store fresh food in the fridge.

My new electric bill in for this moth and it's £15.00 less than last month. Just shows how much electric freezers use.


Interesting.

A lot of folk buy in bulk ( meat / fish) and get it real cheap then freeze it so I guess it depends on the circumstances


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[Cherie]

Interesting.

A lot of folk buy in bulk ( meat / fish) and get it real cheap then freeze it so I guess it depends on the circumstances


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tbh I couldn't do without my freezer and I buy stuff that is on offer

[Gusto Brunt]

Interesting.

A lot of folk buy in bulk ( meat / fish) and get it real cheap then freeze it so I guess it depends on the circumstances


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That's right. I used to fill up the freezer.

Now I just have enough in the fridge for a few days. And of course there is a small freezer department in the fridge. But a saving of £15 per month per year is £180. Not to be sniffed at.

[bots]

there are a lot of factors regarding the freezer, how new is it, was it defrosted properly, was it in a cool room, was the freezer nearly empty or nearly full. Those all affect how much energy the freezer uses

[Gusto Brunt]

there are a lot of factors regarding the freezer, how new is it, was it defrosted properly, was it in a cool room, was the freezer nearly empty or nearly full. Those all affect how much energy the freezer uses

I agree, but it's best off.:hee:

[arista]

NewsnightHD bbc2
reported Energy prices
have come down in price


And the Government Loan
would now be £60Billion

[Denver]

People are really thinking we are gonna have forced global blackouts

[bots]

That's alarmist, we will be fine in the UK

[arista]

[British Gas-owner Centrica has reopened
its giant gas storage facility to boost
the UK's supply over the winter.

The energy firm said site would allow
for "cheaper gas" to be stored for the
colder months and help "reduce or stabilise costs"
for households.
The move comes after the UK's energy regulator
said homes could face power cuts of up to
three hours if gas supplies run low.
Centrica said reopening Rough was
"not a silver bullet for energy security".

But it added: "It is a key part of a range
of steps which can be taken to help
the UK this winter."]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63423600

[arista]

Octopus Energy to take over collapsed supplier Bulb

[Energy supplier Octopus Energy is to buy
its smaller competitor Bulb.
Bulb collapsed last year amid rising gas and electricity
prices and has since been run by the government.
Its 1.5 million customers will not see any change
or disruption to energy supplies, the Department for Business,
Energy and Industrial Strategy said.

The value of the deal has not been published
but the BBC understands Octopus paid the
government, between £100m and £200m.
It is expected to be completed by the
end of November.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-62877930

[Zizu]

Where on Earth do they get these crazy company names !?

Octopus and Bulb ???

I can recall being confused when a finance company called Goodfish came from nowhere ..


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[arista]

Where on Earth do they get these crazy company names !?

Octopus and Bulb ???

I can recall being confused when a finance company called Goodfish came from nowhere ..




Easy to answer
well before, China's Covid-19
And the Russian Invasion


The UK Energy Market
was encouraged to grow
By Conservative and Labour MPs.


They picked Funky Names
to stand out.


Soon there may only be a few of them.

[Gusto Brunt]

Sunak will have to give more money to the poor.

That first £326 didn't even last a month, never mind three months.

[arista]

Sunak will have to give more money to the poor.

That first £326 didn't even last a month, never mind three months.


He has pledged to help those not well off.

Watch Thursday Nov 19th Autumn budget
if you can.

[Gusto Brunt]

He has pledged to help those not well off.

Watch Thursday Nov 19th Autumn budget
if you can.

I know he will help, because that is why the budget was delayed.

The things Sunak wanted in it, weren't in the budget Hunt prepared before Sunak was appointed.

[arista]

[MPs' offices are set around 30C despite
the cost of living crisis,
according to the Daily Star.]

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[Gusto Brunt]

I was talking to a woman today and she advised me to 'put a jumper on in the house if you're cold...'

To save putting the heating on.

Takes more than one jumper. I was a bit cold at 5pm, so put two jumpers on. It was still cold so put another two jumpers on.:shocked:

A bit tight :D but I am not proud. I'm now warm as toast. :D

Heating is off. ;)

[bots]

if you go out to the pub, order a coke and you can stay there all day/evening, no jumpers required :smug:

[bots]

i ordered my battery powered radio, so thats the family christmas entertainment sorted :laugh:

[Cherie]

The cost of fuel will do more for saving the planet than anything else, job done

[bots]

The cost of fuel will do more for saving the planet than anything else, job done

we all need to use twice as much deodorant from taking fewer showers so i'm not so sure about that :laugh:

[Quantum Boy]

I've just had the lowest gas and electricity bill I've had for over 5 years :umm2:.

£75, or £141 pre-£66 discount. Now £75 is the lowest bill I've had since I started paying bills at all :laugh:... but even £141 is less than I've paid for 5+ years. My direct debit was £155 when I was on a fixed tariff at 18p/kwh electricity last year.

All the readings are definitely correct :think:.

[bots]

ive dropped my electricity usage by 7% over the last month, and i dont know what i did differently :laugh:

[Quantum Boy]

ive dropped my electricity usage by 7% over the last month, and i dont know what i did differently :laugh:

I seem to have dropped mine by nearly half by only running the airer over night instead of all day, and not turning on the shower while I poop in the morning.

:umm2:...

50%...

[bots]

that must be a hell of a poop

[Quantum Boy]

that must be a hell of a poop

Well it was just the routine... I'd head on into the bathroom, pop the shower on to warm up, take my seat... but then you know... you need a little entertainment while you poop... so maybe you watch a little TikTok... maybe 5... maybe you get invested in a podcast... maybe 10 minutes pass... maybe 20... maybe sometimes 45...

[arista]

£100 off for those with Smart Meters
that can get cut back during peak hours

[arista]

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[Gusto Brunt]

Poor people need another £650.00 to cover this Christmas on top of the £326.00 November money.:fist:

[arista]

Poor people need another £650.00 to cover this Christmas on top of the £326.00 November money.:fist:


Yes Split into payments
starting today.

[Gusto Brunt]

Yes Split into payments
starting today.

Good idea.:hee:

[Zizu]

From memory we got £65 put into our bank account last month but this month our energy company took out £65 more than last month via !!??

What the hell is happening ?

Any ideas please ?

Maybe just a technical error ?

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[Gusto Brunt]

From memory we got £65 put into our bank account last month but this month our energy company took out £65 more than last month via !!??

What the hell is happening ?

Any ideas please ?

Maybe just a technical error ?

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The energy money has been put into my energy account - not my bank account.

So far I've had £120.00 give or take a few quid. That's in two months. October and November.

[Cherie]

From memory we got £65 put into our bank account last month but this month our energy company took out £65 more than last month via !!??

What the hell is happening ?

Any ideas please ?

Maybe just a technical error ?

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Look at your bill its not something snyone can help with without looking at the bill

Have you had the gas on?

[Cherie]

The energy money has been put into my energy account - not my bank account.

So far I've had £120.00 give or take a few quid. That's in two months. October and November.

Depends on the supplier where the payment goes

[Vanessa]

I put half on gas and half on my electric meter. Happy days :dance:

[Zizu]

Look at your bill its not something snyone can help with without looking at the bill

Have you had the gas on?

Yes we have had the gas on more just lately .

Just thought it was a funny coincidence to get a credit through then have to play the same amount EXTRA the following month

We don’t get ‘bills’ nowadays just the occasional email .. EDF energy


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[bots]

everybody's account is different, contact them if you think something is wrong

[Zizu]

everybody's account is different, contact them if you think something is wrong


We are doing later tonight

Ta


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[Gusto Brunt]

Just got my monthly electric bill. I don't use gas. Just electric.

So this covers October but the bill produced today.

Looks like my savings on electric use is paying off.

I've already switched the freezer off. That's £15.oo per month saved. Don't need that when I have a freeezer compartment in my fridge. ;)

And no heating used. Bill was just £36.36. :D

Paid for by the government. :D

ADDED INFO': I don't use electric light bulbs either. I have these rechargeable USB lights that only come on when you enter the room. Go off when you go out. :D

[Vanessa]

My electric doesn't really use much money, it's quite cheap.
The gas is much more expensive, but I need it for cooking/shower/central heating when it's cold.

[arista]

Good on GMBHD itv
spoke to the Northern Ireland Secretary,
last week,
about them not getting their payments
he smirked at them,
saying he would sort it.


This Week
Nothing has changed,
it is because N.I. has no government
sitting.

[Cherie]

Still not got the gas on properly as its been so mild, and yesterday I opted in for Energy saver and me and Mr C sat in the dark or an hour between 5 and 6 with everything switched off, it was quite nice really :laugh: I will let you know how much the energy company will pay me for doing that...

[bots]

i think those that used the most during the peak times will show the biggest discount in their bills, those that are already energy aware will save very little

[Cherie]

i think those that used the most during the peak times will show the biggest discount in their bills, those that are already energy aware will save very little

I would have been watching the chase :hmph: but yeah I am just interested to see if it worth my while doing, it was the first one

[Zizu]

TalkSport News reports that inflation has peaked already


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[arista]

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[arista]

talksport news reports that inflation has peaked already



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[Zizu]

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Last month was extremely high .. that’s prob why they’re now saying it’s peaked


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[arista]

[National Grid issues power shortage warning for tonight
Homes may suffer power issues this evening after the
National Grid issued a warning on its capacity.

The notice of its tight electricity margin comes
into effect from 7pm,
when most people will be returning from work,
cooking their dinner and using household appliances.

The National Grid issues the warnings when
"there may be less generation available" than
operators expect will be needed
"to meet national electricity demand".]

From The Telegraph.

[Cherie]

[National Grid issues power shortage warning for tonight
Homes may suffer power issues this evening after the
National Grid issued a warning on its capacity.

The notice of its tight electricity margin comes
into effect from 7pm,
when most people will be returning from work,
cooking their dinner and using household appliances.

The National Grid issues the warnings when
"there may be less generation available" than
operators expect will be needed
"to meet national electricity demand".]

From The Telegraph.

Interesting Octopus are having another power saving hour from 5.30 to 6.30

[Cherie]

i think those that used the most during the peak times will show the biggest discount in their bills, those that are already energy aware will save very little

1.30p saved :laugh:

Collectively though it was very sucessful

[bots]

that 1.30 will go to good use i'm sure :laugh:

[Cherie]

that 1.30 will go to good use i'm sure :laugh:

I can leave the heating on for an extra 30 seconds :laugh:

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11464125/Britons-told-save-400-cutting-energy.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11/24/01/64884625-0-image-a-22_1669254119382.jpg


BBCtext:
[Ministers are preparing a "full-scale" £25m
public information campaign to encourage
people to cut their energy usage and bills,
the Times reports.
The paper says it's thought households
could save up to £420 a year
with no loss of comfort,
and quotes Chancellor Jeremy Hunt
saying they have a responsibility
to lower usage to stop the country
being "blackmailed" by
Russian President Vladimir Putin.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/17507/production/_127759459_times-nc.png.webp

[The Slim Reaper]

If you know anyone struggling to stay warm this winter, please pass on this incredible hack.

1595417161685618688

[bots]

who farted?


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/17507/production/_127759459_times-nc.png.webp

[arista]

If you know anyone struggling to stay warm this winter, please pass on this incredible hack.

1595417161685618688


Yes she is Fit
at least.


A Sales Lady

Hardly good enough for this debate

[Gusto Brunt]

I still don't have any heating on, and am quite content and warm enough to layer up.

The real cold comes when it's bedtime. Two or three duvets keep the cold out, but I now I am using hot water bottles. I say hot water bottles plural because I use one hot water bottle in bed from 10.30pm to about 2am.

By 2am the hot water bottle is warm, and I can detect cold again. So I usually get up at 2am to go to the loo, so luckily I had a spare kettle, took that upstairs, boil it and make a second hot water bottle which takes me up to 6am, time to get up. :D

That has sorted out my warmth. Nice nice and toasty. :D :):hee:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiZ-fuiXoAQLgWd?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

[Up to half a million of the UK's most
vulnerable households are missing out
on government help to pay their energy bills,]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-3a83d68a-507b-420d-93dc-888187e049d1.png



This is terrible Cherie,
so many not getting their help in Cash.

[Gusto Brunt]

Gawd, it was so cold yesterday, I had to switch the heating on for an hour, just to warm up my bones. I could feel the cold getting in my bones.

I feel sorry for the over 60s and those in their 70s, 80s and 90s.

I'm warm as toast in bed, what with two hot water bottles and three duvets on the bed. :p But sometimes it gets so cold during the day. :(

[arista]

Gawd, it was so cold yesterday, I had to switch the heating on for an hour, just to warm up my bones. I could feel the cold getting in my bones.

I feel sorry for the over 60s and those in their 70s, 80s and 90s.

I'm warm as toast in bed, what with two hot water bottles and three duvets on the bed. :p But sometimes it gets so cold during the day. :(


Yes it is a Cold Chill
around us all.


It is Terrible that Half a Million Folks
are entitled to get Cash, Unclaimed.
It stinks that they are not getting the Cash.

[Gusto Brunt]

Yes it is a Cold Chill
around us all.


It is Terrible that Half a Million Folks
are entitled to get Cash, Unclaimed.
It stinks that they are not getting the Cash.

There's also another £150 winter fuel payment based on the age of your house. Not many people are aware of that.

[Quantum Boy]

We've pretty much decided that we're not going to put up with being cold over the winter and will just swallow £100 each out of our pay for the gas bill on top of the regular bill. It's looking to be about £320 a month. But that's for actual usage, direct debit is cancelled and we're paying on bill - which means bills will be tiny by comparison over summer (we basically use no gas at all between April and October).

I do appreciate that we're in a somewhat privileged position to be able to just swallow £200 a month but I just can't be doing with the stress of watching every tick round of the utility metres so **** it I guess.

I feel somewhat aware that this is "what they want to happen" of course... they want people to accept this as the "new new normal" but there are too many other battles to stress over to keep worrying about this one.