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rusticgal
10-03-2023, 07:19 PM
Can’t stand Lineker….he is so full of himself arrogant and cocky. He will be loving them all coming out in support of him..gonna have a bigger head than ever…:fist:
Mystic Mock
10-03-2023, 07:22 PM
The BBC need to backdown and apologize for their actions here.
They have no right to suspend someone for having an opinion, it's not a dictatorship.
I care about freedom of speech, it's honestly a shame that the BBC doesn't.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 07:23 PM
Can’t stand Lineker….he is so full of himself arrogant and cocky. He will be loving them all coming out in support of him..gonna have a bigger head than ever…:fist:
he represents the champagne socialist left so well
joeysteele
10-03-2023, 07:29 PM
The BBC need to backdown and apologize for their actions here.
They have no right to suspend someone for having an opinion, it's not a dictatorship.
I care about freedom of speech, it's honestly a shame that the BBC doesn't.
Totally agree Mock.
This really stinks.
Absolutely disgraceful.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 07:29 PM
The BBC need to backdown and apologize for their actions here.
They have no right to suspend someone for having an opinion, it's not a dictatorship.
I care about freedom of speech, it's honestly a shame that the BBC doesn't.
mock do you understand about BBC impartiality? (obviously not)
The director general, Tim Davie, has made impartiality a key platform of his
leadership.
Davie has previously said: "If you want to be an opinionated columnist or a
partisan campaigner on social media then that is a valid choice, but you
should not be working or representing the BBC."
The BBC's editorial guidelines state: "Where individuals identify themselves
as being linked with the BBC, or are programme makers, editorial staff,
reporters or presenters primarily associated with the BBC, their activities on
social media have the potential to compromise the BBC's impartiality and to
damage its reputation."
Lineker's Twitter account has 8.7m followers. So he has a huge platform.
That's why the BBC's editorial guidelines also say that people with platforms
have a greater responsibility to uphold impartiality.
(source BBC)
The BBC’s remit says it is “committed to achieving due impartiality in all its output” and that “this commitment is fundamental to our reputation, our values and the trust of audiences”.
As for Twitter use, it says: “The external activities and public comments, for example on social media, of staff, presenters and others who contribute to our output can also affect perceptions of the BBC’s impartiality.”
The BBC also has specific rules over the use of social media for all employees, including freelancers.
These are:
Always behave professionally, treating others with respect and courtesy at all times: follow the BBC’s values
Don’t bring the BBC into disrepute
If your work requires you to maintain your impartiality, don’t express a personal opinion on matters of public policy, politics, or ‘controversial subjects’ (as defined by Ofcom)
Don’t criticise your colleagues in public. Respect the privacy of the workplace and the confidentiality of internal announcements
Gary Lineker has previously argued that he is a freelance sports presenter and added that the BBC rules "only apply to people in news and current affairs".
joeysteele
10-03-2023, 07:32 PM
The BBC hasn't been impartial for ages.
It's hypocritical.
The BBC long ago lost any real moral high ground.
Can’t stand Lineker….he is so full of himself arrogant and cocky. He will be loving them all coming out in support of him..gonna have a bigger head than ever…:fist:
It’s crazy that he’s such an Angel whilst his nightclub owning brother is errrrr not
Allegedly..
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Alex Scott
The former Lionesses star is among the front-runners to take Lineker's place, having made a positive impression since breaking onto TV screens as a pundit and presenter. Spending most of her career with Arsenal and racking up 140 international appearances in the process, she certainly has the footballing pedigree under her belt, as well as a portfolio of BBC presenting roles including Sports Personality of the Year and guest appearances on The One Show. She did, however, HINT via social media on Friday night that she would not consider the role.
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Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 07:37 PM
It’s crazy that he’s such an Angel whilst his nightclub owning brother is errrrr not
Allegedly..
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a hideous family
rusticgal
10-03-2023, 07:39 PM
The BBC need to backdown and apologize for their actions here.
They have no right to suspend someone for having an opinion, it's not a dictatorship.
I care about freedom of speech, it's honestly a shame that the BBC doesn't.
I agree with freedom of speech….but companies have rules regarding Social media and he broke them.
Alex Scott
The former Lionesses star is among the front-runners to take Lineker's place, having made a positive impression since breaking onto TV screens as a pundit and presenter. Spending most of her career with Arsenal and racking up 140 international appearances in the process, she certainly has the footballing pedigree under her belt, as well as a portfolio of BBC presenting roles including Sports Personality of the Year and guest appearances on The One Show. She did, however, HINT via social media on Friday night that she would not consider the role.
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maybe the no, not me meant that she wouldnt be joining the walk out :laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 07:44 PM
Alex Scott
The former Lionesses star is among the front-runners to take Lineker's place, having made a positive impression since breaking onto TV screens as a pundit and presenter. Spending most of her career with Arsenal and racking up 140 international appearances in the process, she certainly has the footballing pedigree under her belt, as well as a portfolio of BBC presenting roles including Sports Personality of the Year and guest appearances on The One Show. She did, however, HINT via social media on Friday night that she would not consider the role.
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she is a guttersnipe who cannot even speak properly, she says "its free nil"
absolutely appalling and only where she is as a box tick
Zelenskyy, to present tomorrow nights Match of the day.
joeysteele
10-03-2023, 07:46 PM
Alex Scott has it seems too has said no to presenting Match of the Day.
joeysteele
10-03-2023, 07:48 PM
I'd love to see a strong backlash now against the BBC.
I'm fed up of the BBC, have been for years and it's dinosaur tax of a licence fee.
For WHAT.
All the bias it shoves at the viewing public.
Alex Scott has it seems too has said no to presenting Match of the Day.
There’s still 24 hours of cajoling and negotiations to go yet ..
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https://twitter.com/alexscott/status/1634264832852500488?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Queen!
Ok, so Alex Scott is a "queen" for saying "no thank you" to MOTD. But women fighting for women's rights are transphobic extreme right wingers?
Interesting.
Fwiw, im sure you don't know much, if anything about her presenting football and punditry skills, well i'll tell you honestly, she isn't a bad person, but she's annoying and mostly wrong.
But she gets the job for 3 reasons, she ticks boxes at the far right BBC. Black, Woman, Gay.
You will read that as me hating her, being a right wing racist etc. But the fact of the matter is, if ANYONE was good at a job, their race and sexuality don't mean a thing to me.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 08:10 PM
:joker:
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it's going to highlight the extent of left wing bias at the bbc, something we have all known to be true for years
Liam-
10-03-2023, 08:15 PM
Oh yes, the suspending of a critic of the right wing, fascist government and the cancelling of an episode of a David Attenborough documentary so the right wingers don’t get offended, definitely highlights a left wing bias, it’s like you enjoy being delusional
joeysteele
10-03-2023, 08:18 PM
It's more right wing bias at the BBC.
None of their main political programmes have anything other than a staunch Con leaning supporter as presenter.
Kuenssberg, Bruce and Coburn who all often don't hide their bias.
That's fair enough but they cannot be seen as being really impartial.
Not at all.
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 08:22 PM
unusual he is best pals with the racist Danny Baker?
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/14/20/46678723-9894043-image-a-45_1628968370170.jpg
unusual he is best pals with the racist Danny Baker?
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/14/20/46678723-9894043-image-a-45_1628968370170.jpg
And considering all of the racist abuse he experienced when he was a black person in his teens.
UserSince2005
10-03-2023, 08:30 PM
Replace him with someone black, show him his card, stupid old fool.
Ok, so Alex Scott is a "queen" for saying "no thank you" to MOTD. But women fighting for women's rights are transphobic extreme right wingers?
Interesting.
Fwiw, im sure you don't know much, if anything about her presenting football and punditry skills, well i'll tell you honestly, she isn't a bad person, but she's annoying and mostly wrong.
But she gets the job for 3 reasons, she ticks boxes at the far right BBC. Black, Woman, Gay.
You will read that as me hating her, being a right wing racist etc. But the fact of the matter is, if ANYONE was good at a job, their race and sexuality don't mean a thing to me.
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A Queen, according to Liam :hee:
Liam-
10-03-2023, 08:51 PM
https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1634266994269724672?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Spitting straight facts
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 08:51 PM
she is vile
joeysteele
10-03-2023, 08:54 PM
https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1634266994269724672?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Spitting straight facts
I agree with her.
It seems Con MPs become more reasonable and fairer once they leave the Party.
I've agreed with loads she's said since leaving the Cons.
She still criticises Labour and mostly she's right to do so.
On this issue though, she's dead right.
I have a serious question.
If my television identifies itself as a microwave, does that mean that I don't have to pay my TV licence?
Liam-
10-03-2023, 09:09 PM
https://twitter.com/skykaveh/status/1634288030658842641?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Nothing but facts
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 09:10 PM
I have a serious question.
If my television identifies itself as a microwave, does that mean that I don't have to pay my TV licence?
:fist: stop denying microwaves exist
Better times for Gary.
sIwFAeyCpog
He was my absolute number 1 hero at that time. I wanted to be him when I grew up. I had that kit with his number on the back. It was number 8.
Thankfully I grew up into me instead.
Parmy
10-03-2023, 09:24 PM
So who's presenting?
Rylan?
https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1634266994269724672?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Spitting straight factsNice to see them rolling out the football experts for comment. She's always talked balls.
GoldHeart
10-03-2023, 09:28 PM
The BBC need to backdown and apologize for their actions here.
They have no right to suspend someone for having an opinion, it's not a dictatorship.
I care about freedom of speech, it's honestly a shame that the BBC doesn't.
Unfortunately the BBC are bias , Sugar and certain other favourites can say what they like it seems.
James
10-03-2023, 09:30 PM
BBC says Match of the Day to air without presenter or pundits this week.
Parmy
10-03-2023, 09:30 PM
Bout time the lefties got a slap in the face anyway.
Unfortunately the BBC are bias , Sugar and certain other favourites can say what they like it seems.Which should tell you that this is nothing but an orchestrated distraction story. Lineker is probably paid to be in on it.
What they did to us with Covid is the real story they want to go away.
BBC says Match of the Day to air without presenter or pundits this week.More football, less yapping. Everyone's a winner.
So who's presenting?
Rylan?
They should go for that computer head from a while ago .. think he had silver grey hair and a computer voice that used to glitch occasionally
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GoldHeart
10-03-2023, 09:44 PM
Which should tell you that this is nothing but an orchestrated distraction story. Lineker is probably paid to be in on it.
What they did to us with Covid is the real story they want to go away.
You're not still an antivaxxer are you ???, Oh deary me :joker: .
GoldHeart
10-03-2023, 09:45 PM
BBC says Match of the Day to air without presenter or pundits this week.
But how does that work :laugh:, I don't even watch it ....but I thought they always had some form of presenter??. I bet Alex or Gabby will host it .
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 09:50 PM
they need to scrap MOTD and put out a highlights package at 7pm
2 presenters tops
GoldHeart
10-03-2023, 09:53 PM
I just have an image of an empty couch/ chair when MOTD comes on now 🛋️ lol .
You're not still an antivaxxer are you ???, Oh deary me :joker: .I didn't take the Covid vaccine, if that's what you mean by an "anti-vaxxer?"
But the vaccine is just a part of what was done to us. There's much more to it than that. And that's why our attention is on Gary Lineker.
The Slim Reaper
10-03-2023, 10:04 PM
The BBC’s remit says it is “committed to achieving due impartiality in all its output” and that “this commitment is fundamental to our reputation, our values and the trust of audiences”.
As for Twitter use, it says: “The external activities and public comments, for example on social media, of staff, presenters and others who contribute to our output can also affect perceptions of the BBC’s impartiality.”
The BBC also has specific rules over the use of social media for all employees, including freelancers.
These are:
Always behave professionally, treating others with respect and courtesy at all times: follow the BBC’s values
Don’t bring the BBC into disrepute
If your work requires you to maintain your impartiality, don’t express a personal opinion on matters of public policy, politics, or ‘controversial subjects’ (as defined by Ofcom)
Don’t criticise your colleagues in public. Respect the privacy of the workplace and the confidentiality of internal announcements
Gary Lineker has previously argued that he is a freelance sports presenter and added that the BBC rules "only apply to people in news and current affairs".
No doubt you'll be calling for Andrew Neil and Alan Sugar next?
Tom4784
10-03-2023, 10:06 PM
You mean to tell me the same crowd that whines about 'cancel culture' actively pushed to try to cancel Gary Linekar becuase his opinion hurt their ickle feelings?
Right Wingers are just hypocrites.
Notice how the people cheering this on are very silent about Andrew Neil, Fiona Bruce, Laura Kuensberg, Richard Sharp and Alan Sugar, but hypocrites gonna be hypocrites.
The Slim Reaper
10-03-2023, 10:06 PM
I didn't take the Covid vaccine, if that's what you mean by an "anti-vaxxer?"
But the vaccine is just a part of what was done to us. There's much more to it than that. And that's why our attention is on Gary Lineker.
I'll reply to your post tomorrow. Just popped on to see the Lineker reactions, before heading out for a couple of swift halves.
That time Alan Shearer was a medical expert and used his platform to advertise for big pharma.
As the truth slowly trickles out in the dark, it makes sense that they want to cover up what happened and make it go away.
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Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 10:12 PM
get that entitled twat telt Katy
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Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 10:13 PM
That time Alan Shearer was a medical expert and used his platform to advertise for big pharma.
As the truth slowly trickles out in the dark, it makes sense that they want to cover what happened and make it go away.
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and is he talking about blood doners who give vaccinated blood?
Imagine if the viewing figures go through the roof
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Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 10:14 PM
Imagine if the viewing figures go through the roof
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:joker:
The Slim Reaper
10-03-2023, 10:16 PM
Brits feel like 2nd class citizens because there has been a purposeful transfer of wealth out of our lives and communities, and into corporations and the wealthy.
Unfortunately for the mouth breathers amongst us, not one refugee is responsible for Britain becoming a tax haven to launder money through. Without watching Hopkins, I'm guessing that wasn't the point she was making, although the title draws the right conclusion.
Parmy
10-03-2023, 10:26 PM
They should go for that computer head from a while ago .. think he had silver grey hair and a computer voice that used to glitch occasionally
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I dont think arista can take time off from TIBB.
The Slim Reaper
10-03-2023, 10:28 PM
I’d like to see Andy Gray back on our screens !!!
Along with Lee Sharpe !!
Fabulous partnership
My brother used to play footie with Jon Sharpe - Lee's brother. Met him a couple of times on the teams presentation nights.
My brother used to play footie with Jon Sharpe - Lee's brother. Met him a couple of times on the teams presentation nights.Were you abusive to him, or was it after his Manchester United days?
The Slim Reaper
10-03-2023, 10:34 PM
Were you abusive to him, or was it after his Manchester United days?
I was only about 4/5/6 I think. Still glassed him for future me's satisfaction :smug:
Oliver_W
10-03-2023, 10:38 PM
My brother used to play footie with Jon Sharpe - Lee's brother. Met him a couple of times on the teams presentation nights.
Yeah well my great-great uncle by marriage once captained Arsenal and England :hmph: before that he played for my hometown (Nowheresville)
Never met him, but by complete coincidence we lived in a house which he once did for a while.
GoldHeart
10-03-2023, 10:41 PM
Is Lee Sharpe a good guy ?!, I don't know much about him.
I remember when he was on the celebrity Love Island a million years ago,I use to think he had a nice smile.
The Slim Reaper
10-03-2023, 10:43 PM
Yeah well my great-great uncle by marriage once captained Arsenal and England :hmph: before that he played for my hometown (Nowheresville)
Never met him, but by complete coincidence we lived in a house which he once did for a while.
Looks like we're both friends to the stars :laugh:
Is Lee Sharpe a good guy ?!, I don't know much about him.
I remember when he was on the celebrity Love Island a million years ago,I use to think he had a nice smile.He was a good player when he first started with Manchester United. He was seen as the answer to England's problematic left side of Midfield. Then Ryan Giggs came along and took his place and his career went downhill from there.
There's no history of him being a bad guy so I think he was OK.
The Slim Reaper
10-03-2023, 10:48 PM
Right, I'm off out to get half a lager and lime shandy with an umbrella and sparklers - that ok, LT?
He was a good player when he first started with Manchester United. He was seen as the answer to England's problematic left side of Midfield. Then Ryan Giggs came along and took his place and his career went downhill from there.
There's no history of him being a bad guy so I think he was OK.
isn't he on the everton board now, the board all the fans want sacked?
Parmy
10-03-2023, 10:50 PM
It's hardly the weather for umbrella and sparklers.
isn't he on the everton board now, the board all the fans want sacked?I don't know is he? My modern day football knowledge is very small. I fell out of love with the game in recent times. I couldn't even name 11 current Everton players, I don't think.
Oliver_W
10-03-2023, 10:57 PM
Looks like we're both friends to the stars :laugh:
We're both Footie Royalty :dance:
He actually married my great-grandad's aunt Maggie, so there's probably not a word for what he is to me :joker:
We're both Footie Royalty :dance:
He actually married my great-grandad's aunt Maggie, so there's probably not a word for what he is to me :joker:Who is he, Kenny Sansom?
Oliver_W
10-03-2023, 10:59 PM
Who is he, Kenny Sansom?
Even older! He was a striker.
was he married to Delilah?
Oliver_W
10-03-2023, 11:03 PM
was he married to Delilah?
Nope, auntie Maggie!
Even older! He was a striker.George Eastham?
One of five remaining members of England's World cup winning squad.
Oliver_W
10-03-2023, 11:06 PM
George Eastham?
Even older still :joker: he was playing (captaining!) when Eastham was being born.
Surely it couldn't have been the legendary Charlie Buchan?
So I'll go for Don Roper?
Oliver_W
10-03-2023, 11:15 PM
Surely it couldn't have been the legendary Charlie Buchan?
So I'll go for Don Roper?
Neither :joker:
His career started after Buchan's finished, started a while before Roper's but overlapped.
(apparently I got his position wrong, he was Full-Back rather than Striker. But his still Captained both England and Arsenal)
Neither :joker:
His career started after Buchan's finished, started a while before Roper's but overlapped.
(apparently I got his position wrong, he was Full-Back rather than Striker. But his still Captained both England and Arsenal)Are you telling me it was the legendary Eddie Hapgood?
Oliver_W
10-03-2023, 11:18 PM
Are you telling me it was the legendary Eddie Hapgood?
It was!
It was!Wow.
I've researched him in the past. He's one of the all time greats.
The great Sir Stanley Matthews said that Eddie was his toughest oppenents. .
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Is Lee Sharpe a good guy ?!, I don't know much about him.
I remember when he was on the celebrity Love Island a million years ago,I use to think he had a nice smile.
Fabulous character, fabulous player
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arista
11-03-2023, 05:37 AM
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11-03-2023, 05:38 AM
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11-03-2023, 05:39 AM
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11-03-2023, 05:40 AM
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11-03-2023, 05:41 AM
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11-03-2023, 05:44 AM
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11-03-2023, 05:50 AM
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arista
11-03-2023, 05:53 AM
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arista
11-03-2023, 05:59 AM
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[BBC bosses told the former England striker
yesterday afternoon that he either had to stop
his politicised posts or quit the BBC altogether]
Thats better.
Apparently the big noises in the Beeb and government are gonna DEMAND a full apology from Lineker !!
This definitely ends with a massive shake up of MOTD !
Definitely ends with Alex Scott taking over the main show for the foreseeable ..
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Cherie
11-03-2023, 06:17 AM
Cant see Gary backing down now it’s gone too far
On the plus side they have saved themselves a chunk of change, he is massively over paid for what he does
Cant see Gary backing down now it’s gone too far
On the plus side they have saved themselves a chunk of change, he is massively over paid for what he does
Can’t see Wrighty and Shearer being too pleased with Lineker when they both lose their lucrative income
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the 3 pundits collectively will save a small fortune.
The BBC had little option but to boot him after he said he would say what he liked and carry on presenting the show
arista
11-03-2023, 06:34 AM
No Presenters tonight
on the BBC1HD show
[Match of the Day to air without presenters,
pundits or BBC commentators after
Lineker removed
Since the BBC announced Lineker would be
"stepping back" from Match of the Day,
several pundits including Ian Wright
and Alan Shearer have pulled
out of appearing on tonight's programme.]
https://news.sky.com/story/match-of-the-day-to-go-ahead-without-studio-presentation-or-punditry-12830720
Oliver_W
11-03-2023, 07:13 AM
Honestly good on everyone who's rebelling to the BBC's actions here.
He didn't say anything which reflects on the BBC, only himself. He didn't call for violence, or say anything inflammatory. Giving him a "yellow card" over that is ridiculous.
Honestly good on everyone who's rebelling to the BBC's actions here.
He didn't say anything which reflects on the BBC, only himself. He didn't call for violence, or say anything inflammatory. Giving him a "yellow card" over that is ridiculous.
he has been warned before that he had stepped over the line. You seem to be missing the point, an employer can put any restrictions they wish on those employees behaviour, so it isn't about free speech at all
arista
11-03-2023, 07:21 AM
Honestly good on everyone who's rebelling to the BBC's actions here.
He didn't say anything which reflects on the BBC, only himself. He didn't call for violence, or say anything inflammatory. Giving him a "yellow card" over that is ridiculous.
You are missing the Point, Oliver
Jewish Groups have asked the BBC CEO,
Paid by all of us,
to get an apology for using 1930's Germany
The Cocky BBC paid Star Gary, says No apology
So it is logical he is not going to present
Tonight's show
Cherie
11-03-2023, 07:40 AM
Can’t see Wrighty and Shearer being too pleased with Lineker when they both lose their lucrative income
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No you are right
No you are right
ian wright and Shearer are on multiple sports channels, they are not reliant on the bbc for income, neither is lineker
what it comes down to is simple. When BBC employees express their own political opinions, the licence payer says that person does not represent me, so why should i pay a licence fee. We have no choice but to pay, so lineker should have no choice but to shut up.
Why should lineker have the choice to express whatever political view he likes while being employed by the bbc, but i do not have the choice to not pay the tv licence
Cherie
11-03-2023, 08:25 AM
ian wright and Shearer are on multiple sports channels, they are not reliant on the bbc for income, neither is lineker
I know but its a jammy little number for all of them
Mystic Mock
11-03-2023, 08:29 AM
the 3 pundits collectively will save a small fortune.
The BBC had little option but to boot him after he said he would say what he liked and carry on presenting the show
The BBC has no right to control what their workers can and can't say, that's no different to Russia Today if they carry on trying to censor what one of their employees can and can't say about a Government policy.
The BBC should just apologize and admit that they've got it wrong, but they'll more than likely be stubborn and try to double down.
Mystic Mock
11-03-2023, 08:31 AM
he has been warned before that he had stepped over the line. You seem to be missing the point, an employer can put any restrictions they wish on those employees behaviour, so it isn't about free speech at all
But the BBC has allowed other workers on the Channel get political in the past.
It was even discussed on Sky Sports News yesterday about the BBC picking and choosing who can be political out of their Presenters.
Mystic Mock
11-03-2023, 08:36 AM
what it comes down to is simple. When BBC employees express their own political opinions, the licence payer says that person does not represent me, so why should i pay a licence fee. We have no choice but to pay, so lineker should have no choice but to shut up.
Why should lineker have the choice to express whatever political view he likes while being employed by the bbc, but i do not have the choice to not pay the tv licence
I never get this argument.
Just because you pay a TV Licence, doesn't mean that people can't express differing viewpoints who work for the Channel.
I mean if we go with this argument then nobody would be allowed to work at the BBC, because they're all gonna express an opinion that at least one viewer isn't going to like, especially when it comes to topics like Politics.
I never get this argument.
Just because you pay a TV Licence, doesn't mean that people can't express differing viewpoints who work for the Channel.
I mean if we go with this argument then nobody would be allowed to work at the BBC, because they're all gonna express an opinion that at least one viewer isn't going to like, especially when it comes to topics like Politics.
i am forced in law to pay a tv licence, if i had a choice to pay or not, then employees of the bbc can say whatever they like and i can choose if i want to pay knowing that. While we are all forced in law to pay for it, bbc employees can keep their political opinions to themselves. The fact you don't care means, with respect, you arent paying for the licence
joeysteele
11-03-2023, 08:54 AM
But the BBC has allowed other workers on the Channel get political in the past.
It was even discussed on Sky Sports News yesterday about the BBC picking and choosing who can be political out of their Presenters.
Yes Mock.
You are right.
However now it appears anyone connected with the BBC must not criticise Con government's policies.
Sugar can deride Starmer and compare Corbyn to Hitler, and have nothing said.
Fiona Bruce , Jo Coburn, and Kuenssberg show their full bias regularly.
HOWEVER their bias is FOR the Cons, so to the BBC and Con supporters that's fully acceptable.
Immaterial of if they attack opposition parties.
The BBC lost any moral high ground ages ago.
Especially after its failings re Saville.
Their appointments of political presenters are near ALL firm Con supporters.
Impartiality is a joke as to the BBC.
It's a disgrace really.
Just like the current Chairman of the BBC appointed politically by a Con government.
Who has an impartiality cloud himself hanging over him at present.
I agree with both your posts.
Why anyone in this Country has to pay a licence fee yearly to this corrupt and dictatorial organisation is a disgrace.
Lineker for strong ill put wording in a tweet on his Twitter account.
Gets pilloried.
While the vile, hateful inflammatory deliberately divisive lies from Braverman gets applauded.
That sadly is the awful and concerning place the UK is being supported to go by the BBC under this detestable rotten FROM the core government.
Plus the supporters of whom support and are allowing it to happen.
Apparently all the match commentators have downed tools too, so that should make watching the matches entertaining :laugh:
I think we could actually be watching the end of the bbc. They cant continue to force people to pay for something that they fundamentally disagree with
arista
11-03-2023, 10:15 AM
Alternative MOTD
Live on GBnewsHD Tonight 10PM
Marc Dolan
Top Level Footballers in the studio
arista
11-03-2023, 10:46 AM
1634289843692883977
ian wright and Shearer are on multiple sports channels, they are not reliant on the bbc for income, neither is lineker
Yeah but apparently the BeeB pay these three big -bucks
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joeysteele
11-03-2023, 10:56 AM
1634289843692883977
The big difference being.
Bruce is a firm Con supporter so easing the pressure or defending anyone connected to the Cons will likely be overlooked and tolerated.
Even ON a political programme being broadcasted
Lineker was highlighting his dismay AT a Con and her hateful divisive rhetoric.
So him being critical of the Cons and not defending them.
He gets the action against him while Bruce gets supported and protected as usual.
Alternative MOTD
Live on GBnewsHD Tonight 10PM
Marc Dolan
Top Level Footballers in the studio
Clever scheduling !
Could become a thing if it’s a success as well - especially if they get a drop dead gorgeous hostess to keep them in line
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So no Beeb Live Score program this afternoon !!
This is dangerous as millions will get to see that the SkySports and the BT Sports programs are a better alternative !!
They are shooting themselves in the backside!!
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Livia
11-03-2023, 11:01 AM
So Gary's overpaid, inarticulate colleagues won't be appearing on Match of the Day. Who watches Match of the Day? People who can't afford Sky. So who are they hurting? Sack all the bloody commentators, they ruin a match anyway. Let's just see the football with no overpaid, over-confident ex-footballers with a tenuous grasp on the English language.
GiRTh
11-03-2023, 11:14 AM
The big difference being.
Bruce is a firm Con supporter so easing the pressure or defending anyone connected to the Cons will likely be overlooked and tolerated.
Even ON a political programme being broadcasted
Lineker was highlighting his dismay AT a Con and her hateful divisive rhetoric.
So him being critical of the Cons and not defending them.
He gets the action against him while Bruce gets supported and protected as usual.And of course there was Andrew Neil as chairman of The Spectator the entire time he worked for the BBC
BBC seem to have singled Lineker out I wonder why.
Livia
11-03-2023, 11:15 AM
And of course there was Andrew Neil as chairman of The Spectator the entire time he worked for the BBC
BBC seem to have singled Lineker out I wonder why.
Because he accused the government of using language the Nazis used in the 30s, showing his deep and profound ignorance of Germany in the 30s.
Liam-
11-03-2023, 11:17 AM
https://twitter.com/michael_chessum/status/1634239879185055744?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Gary Linekar is being victimised by a government that is hellbent on destroying the right to descent, they’ve already criminalised protest, they’re trying to make striking illegal and now they’re using their friends in high places to assert their power over people who publicly speak against them, they’re angry about being compared to fascists, but they prove time and time again, that they’re willing to act like fascists if and when it suits them
GiRTh
11-03-2023, 11:19 AM
Because he accused the government of using language the Nazis used in the 30s, showing his deep and profound ignorance of Germany in the 30s.
You're saying they suspended him for his lack of knowledge? Doesn't seem like a very good reason
So Gary's overpaid, inarticulate colleagues won't be appearing on Match of the Day. Who watches Match of the Day? People who can't afford Sky. So who are they hurting? Sack all the bloody commentators, they ruin a match anyway. Let's just see the football with no overpaid, over-confident ex-footballers with a tenuous grasp on the English language.
That’s what they’re planning on doing .. although I rather like having a commentary.. unless it’s Alex Scott or someone not identifying as male :)
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Liam-
11-03-2023, 11:23 AM
This is all a rather convenient debacle for the tories though, the party that wants to get rid of the bbc all together, pushing for action to be taken they know will highlight the ridiculousness of having paid bad actors at the helm of the organisation, so they can then blame the actual bbc itself rather than the people they’ve placed there to cause the downfall, it’s political chess
GiRTh
11-03-2023, 11:24 AM
I remember when Sky got rid of Le Tissier, Charlie Nicholas etc. People on here were up in arms but apparently its different for MOTD. I get it. I see it now. :think:
Livia
11-03-2023, 11:24 AM
That’s what they’re planning on doing .. although I rather like having a commentary.. unless it’s Alex Scott or someone not identifying as male :)
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What I hate about commentators is the twaddle they speak. If it's Man U or C, or one of the big Arab-funded clubs who can buy all the top players and they get the ball you can almost imagine the commentary team stroking their own genitals. Maybe I'm bitter because I'm a West Ham fan... in fact, that's definitely it.
I agree that the BBC has not been consistent in its implementation of impartiality rules, but that doesn't give lineker a free pass. This highlights how unhappy people are with the BBC from all sides of politics and the main reason for that is the mandatory licence fee. Thats what the real issue is. Hopefully it will now be resolved
Livia
11-03-2023, 11:29 AM
I've seen a call for people to withhold a month's direct debit payment of their license fee. I'd be up for that.
What I hate about commentators is the twaddle they speak. If it's Man U or C, or one of the big Arab-funded clubs who can buy all the top players and they get the ball you can almost imagine the commentary team stroking their own genitals. Maybe I'm bitter because I'm a West Ham fan... in fact, that's definitely it.
The thing that grinds my gears is when an ex player says “that was such a ‘delicious’ pass “ instead of what they’d normally say .. “ good ball ! “
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GiRTh
11-03-2023, 11:32 AM
wjJ3KKl0-7cGood point he makes about Alan Sugar. So we can add Lord Sugar as another BBC employee who's made politically biased tweets.
I remember when Sky got rid of Le Tissier, Charlie Nicholas etc. People on here were up in arms but apparently its different for MOTD. I get it. I see it now. :think:
Big mistake to get rid of those guys.. wasn’t Phil Thompson one who got axed as well !?
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GiRTh
11-03-2023, 11:35 AM
Big mistake to get rid of those guys.. wasn’t Phil Thompson one who got axed as well !?
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Livia
11-03-2023, 11:37 AM
Alistair Campbell.... LOL
Match of the day lost its appeal when other channels came along and offered better coverage. Indeed, match of the day was only poular when it was a monopoly :laugh:
user104658
11-03-2023, 11:42 AM
The issue here is that there are numerous big names on the BBC who are openly political "out of work". If this is now BBC policy... They're either all going to have to sign new contracts with social media clauses, or be shown the door.
I don't see that happening though so this all seems rather dodgy.
Livia
11-03-2023, 11:44 AM
It would all be easier to manage if the BBC was in any part impartial.
Match of the day lost its appeal when other channels came along and offered better coverage. Indeed, match of the day was only poular when it was a monopoly :laugh:
True enough
I haven’t watched it in years
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GiRTh
11-03-2023, 11:45 AM
Match of the day lost its appeal when other channels came along and offered better coverage. Indeed, match of the day was only poular when it was a monopoly :laugh:I dont agree. To watch all live premiership games you need to subscribe to Sky, BT Sports and Prime. Live football is better watched down the pub than by subscribing IMO as the services are all quite limited for the price.
MOTD and BBC's coverage in general appeals to people like me who refuse to subscribe to all providers so therefore subscribes to none
If we really want to get to the problem of mediocre premiership football coverage, the 3PM blackout is the biggest issue.
I keep banging on about it, but this is the beginning of the end of the BBC. Its remit for a licence fee comes from it being an impartial public broadcaster, and they could get away with that before social media and when they had a monopoly on media. People are not impartial, they never have been, and they never will be
Liam-
11-03-2023, 11:50 AM
It’s not impartial because the Tories have packed it full of donors and ex party candidates who are willing to do their bidding, being angry at the institution rather than the people controlling the institution is wild
GiRTh
11-03-2023, 11:51 AM
I keep banging on about it, but this is the beginning of the end of the BBC. Its remit for a licence fee comes from it being an impartial public broadcaster, and they could get away with that before social media and when they had a monopoly on media. People are not impartial, they never have been, and they never will be:clap1:
Liam-
11-03-2023, 11:53 AM
https://twitter.com/mrjondeplume/status/1634306239793340417?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
He was. The shows awful now but people on here think MOTD will be better without Lineker. I doubt it will be.
The idea of having three of the best scoring centre forwards together as a team of pundits is genius to be honest
At least WE know that they know what they are talking about when they give comments .
I have no idea at all how good or how much these female ex players know about football and so I don’t really care what they are saying .
I recall Alex Scott being on a World Cup panel with some great ex players … including Ruud Gullit and Henrik Larsson
The host specifically asked Larsson ( a fabulous goal scorer ) his thoughts on why some easy chances had been missed but before he could utter a single syllable… Alex Scott ( an ex defender ) jumped in and answered his question and she hasn’t stopped talking since - we never got to hear Henrik’s view on things
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The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 11:55 AM
:clap1:
I'm not a fan of the current beeb, but be careful what you wish for. As soon as the BBC is out of the way, you will see a flood of ideological rw stations pop up to take it's place. Great for people that prefer slogans over facts, but the Americanisation of our airwaves will be terrible in the long run.
user104658
11-03-2023, 11:56 AM
I keep banging on about it, but this is the beginning of the end of the BBC. Its remit for a licence fee comes from it being an impartial public broadcaster, and they could get away with that before social media and when they had a monopoly on media. People are not impartial, they never have been, and they never will be
God I hope so, I'm tired of having to send pithy responses to their demands for TV license payment.
I don't watch live telly! I don't watch BBC iPlayer! I don't want your service - go away!
Honestly.
I cancelled my milk delivery subscription after the first summer because the milk kept going off on the doorstep. The milkman didn't start sending letters threatening to beat me up if I didn't pay for my milk :think:.
There's this bizarre idea that it's something lofty and not just... A telly service.
James
11-03-2023, 11:59 AM
Football Focus has been replaced by Bargain Hunt on the BBC One schedule, shortly after presenter Alex Scott said it "doesn't feel right" to go ahead with the show
Final Score also disappeared from the BBC One list, with The Repair Shop now listed for 4:30pm after presenter Jason Mohammad also said he would not appear today
Presenter Colin Murray said BBC 5 Live's Fighting Talk was not airing today "for obvious reasons", which he said was "a decision taken by the entire FT team and myself"
This is all so bizarre.
GiRTh
11-03-2023, 12:00 PM
I'm not a fan of the current beeb, but be careful what you wish for. As soon as the BBC is out of the way, you will see a flood of ideological rw stations pop up to take it's place. Great for people that prefer slogans over facts, but the Americanisation of our airwaves will be terrible in the long run.This is also true. I don't want the BBC out of the way, I want them to stop claiming they're impartial. They never were.
Livia
11-03-2023, 12:01 PM
Sack them all.
Liam-
11-03-2023, 12:07 PM
Yes, sack everyone who stands in solidarity with someone who’s been forced out of his job due to government overreach, definitely doesn’t sound like fascism at all
The BBC will continue on in some form, they do stuff that people like, and those people will pay a sub to watch it. The impartiality angle has been an issue coming for a long time and its crystalised for people from all sides now. For me, it can only have one eventual outcome.
Oliver_W
11-03-2023, 12:12 PM
Maybe I'm bitter because I'm a West Ham fan...
Not the Hammers!!
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Livia
11-03-2023, 12:14 PM
Not the Hammers!!
https://media.tenor.com/ocu2RiVX1KYAAAAC/trump-loser.gif
It has taught me over the years to accept disappointment and defeat. It's been character building.
Tom4784
11-03-2023, 12:21 PM
Sack them all.
Livia the fascist says sack anyone who dares have a negative opinion of her beloved tories, because freedom of speech is a thing that only she and her fellow fascists can enjoy, no one else, ever.
Tom4784
11-03-2023, 12:23 PM
I hope this stink continues to plague the BBC, because it doesn't apply it's impartiality rules equally. It spreads it's cheeks for tories regularly and has done for a long time.
Defund the BBC until it learns what impartiality is. If the tories want a mouthpiece TV channel, they can pay for it with their own money, not tax money.
Did I hear that all the players and managers have refused to comment on anything today ??
I didn’t expect that at all ..
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rusticgal
11-03-2023, 12:26 PM
Honestly good on everyone who's rebelling to the BBC's actions here.
He didn't say anything which reflects on the BBC, only himself. He didn't call for violence, or say anything inflammatory. Giving him a "yellow card" over that is ridiculous.
He represents the Brands he works for...BBC/Walkers crisps who pay him a substantial amount of money to represent them. His actions and opinions in private can influence or damage that Brand....
Tbh...Shearer is a bore and Lineker is an arrogant twat who thinks he is bigger and better than anyone else. He had been warned before...he got what he deserved.
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 12:28 PM
Did I hear that all the players and managers have refused to comment on anything today ??
I didn’t expect that at all ..
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There is power in a union.
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 12:30 PM
Lineker is an arrogant twat who thinks he is bigger and better than anyone else. .
How do you know this? Unless it's because it's been blasted into your brain over the last couple of days?
Tom4784
11-03-2023, 12:32 PM
Nothing that Linekar said was factually wrong. The government ARE using language akin to 1930's Germany, by making out that immigrants are 'invading', and even a holocaust survivor has called Suella Braverman out on it. Are Leathertrumpet, Livia and the rest of the suddenly pro-cancel culture brigade going to try to cancel the holocaust survivor too? Tell her to sit down and shut up and just be a little old lady instead of being a political pundit?
The snowflakes aren't angry that Linekar said something scandalous, they're angry he said something true that reflects poorly on their beloved tories.
Tom4784
11-03-2023, 12:33 PM
How do you know this? Unless it's because it's been blasted into your brain over the last couple of days?
Pretty much, huge swathes of this country just can't think for themselves.
Livia
11-03-2023, 12:33 PM
He represents the Brands he works for...BBC/Walkers crisps who pay him a substantial amount of money to represent them. His actions and opinions in private can influence or damage that Brand....
Tbh...Shearer is a bore and Lineker is an arrogant twat who thinks he is bigger and better than anyone else. He had been warned before...he got what he deserved.
How true. This is just the latest in a long, long line of self-indulgent posts from Lineker over a long period.
Oliver_W
11-03-2023, 12:37 PM
There is power in a union.
Don't tell the government that, they might try to do something about it :think:
Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 01:02 PM
gIdg3mnAcTc
more fall out .... radio 5 live is now playing recorded stuff :laugh:
Tom4784
11-03-2023, 01:05 PM
gIdg3mnAcTc
That thumbnail should be printed out and placed above toilets to scare the flies away.
Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 01:08 PM
https://twitter.com/George_Bowling1/status/1634524219307438082?s=20
Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 01:11 PM
https://twitter.com/afcjagman/status/1634529594760998913?s=20
Nothing that Linekar said was factually wrong. The government ARE using language akin to 1930's Germany, by making out that immigrants are 'invading', and even a holocaust survivor has called Suella Braverman out on it. Are Leathertrumpet, Livia and the rest of the suddenly pro-cancel culture brigade going to try to cancel the holocaust survivor too? Tell her to sit down and shut up and just be a little old lady instead of being a political pundit?
The snowflakes aren't angry that Linekar said something scandalous, they're angry he said something true that reflects poorly on their beloved tories.The government are saying they want to protect their borders. The Nazis invaded countries borders.
How is that in anyway the same? It's the opposite.
Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 01:54 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq7WaZ3X0AAiYa6?format=jpg&name=large
There is power in a union.
So why haven’t anyone from Sky or BT joined in - who are actually doing the same job just for a different company ?
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Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 02:11 PM
https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/1634275193437802516?s=20
arista
11-03-2023, 02:14 PM
https://twitter.com/George_Bowling1/status/1634524219307438082?s=20
Ian, is Cocky Git.
He left Ch5 in a Huff...............
Cherie
11-03-2023, 02:18 PM
https://twitter.com/afcjagman/status/1634529594760998913?s=20
plus I really dont get the BBC's stance as they were perfectly happy to go to Qatar, but then would't show the opening ceremony but instead got Gary to talk about human rights so tbf I can see why he has the hump
They are worst than Sturgeon and have tied themselves in knots over this
Tom4784
11-03-2023, 02:19 PM
https://twitter.com/jimmyallen71/status/1634536297573253120?s=46&t=SIQ7aGJaIgYqLFyBUn4CWQ
I'd quite like to hear what the champions of cancel culture, LT, Livia and the rest make of this.
https://twitter.com/jimmyallen71/status/1634536297573253120?s=46&t=SIQ7aGJaIgYqLFyBUn4CWQ
I'd quite like to hear what the champions of cancel culture, LT, Livia and the rest make of this.Couldn't give a sh1t.
When Donald Trump called out the fake news you all sided with them, including the BBC who attacked him constantly with lies.
And then when twitter cancelled him, you cheered it on and told us that a company has the right to do what they like.
You made your bed, now lie in it.
Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 02:27 PM
with all the people pulling out it just shows you how even the football part of the BBC is riddled with hand-wringing hard-left people :umm2:
#impartial
GoldHeart
11-03-2023, 02:31 PM
https://twitter.com/afcjagman/status/1634529594760998913?s=20
At the end of the day everyone is a hypocrite
The BBC have done quite a few questionable things in the past , people are putting up Savile pictures now . But the BBC covered for him... whilst demonising an innocent man - Cliff Richard.
Point is right wing & the BBC can't say they're impartial or whatever and then do this, Linekar isn't the only celeb to tweet strong opinions . If he did this live on air on MOTD then I could maybe understand the upset. But he did it on twitter like the what most of them do .
But at the same time loads of people took part in Qatar because they saw it as a big opportunity. I guess it depends how passionate you are about your morals, I think for some this was just another job in Qatar and others did a bit of Virtue signalling .
Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 02:31 PM
Lineker's Past Tax Issues
In 2012, he was forced to pay £4.9 million in back taxes after being found to
have used a tax avoidance scheme.
I guess he isnt bothered about how much illegals cost as he avoids paying tax?
:skull:
Tom4784
11-03-2023, 02:32 PM
with all the people pulling out it just shows you how even the football part of the BBC is riddled with hand-wringing hard-left people :umm2:
#impartial
Except you know, the leadership giving Boris loans, Fiona Bruce excusing Stanley Johnson's domestic abuse, Alan Sugar being allowed to be impartial by going after Mick Lynch, Laura Kuensberg entire show being a tory mouthpiece, Andrew Neil being allowed to be impartial while Linekar isn't. Jeremy Clarkson saying he'd want to shoot people who go on strike and still being employed until years later.
It's all so left wing!
All sorted for tonight’s program … phew !!
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joeysteele
11-03-2023, 04:00 PM
The BBC being left leaning has to be the biggest joke ever as to it being so.
Nonsense more like.
It's like they hand pick everytime harder line Cons for the major political interviewing and presenting programmes.
It's got far worse under this detestable lot in governnent now too.
GoldHeart
11-03-2023, 04:14 PM
Question Time is unwatchable, I accidentally tuned in the other week and regretted it .
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 04:16 PM
The BBC being left leaning has to be the biggest joke ever as to it being so.
Nonsense more like.
It's like they hand pick everytime harder line Cons for the major political interviewing and presenting programmes.
It's got far worse under this detestable lot in governnent now too.
It's a ploy to keep moving it further rightwards. Then as soon as they shift, the cries of left bias start up again to keep moving it and moving it.
Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 04:17 PM
The BBC broadcaster Andrew Marr, has pointed to the diverse nature of the BBC, which he
describes as employing, “an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in
ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people”, which is what he suggests fuels the
BBC’s “innate liberal bias”.
Here we go …
Matt Le Tissier hits out at Ian Wright claiming his solidarity with Gary Lineker is 'completely contradictory', as he states the Match of the Day host didn't support him when he was sacked by Sky Sports
At the time of Le Tissier's sacking, Wright said that the former Saints striker, Nicholas and Thompson had an 'unbelievable run' and wished them all the best.
He said: 'Matt Le Tissier, Charlie Nicholas, Phil Thompson, they've had an unbelievable run, it's been a great show. This happens to everyone in the industry
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The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 04:58 PM
If our borders are protected then why have hundreds of thousands landed on our shores, most in dinghys, over the past couple of years? And why are my taxes paying for them to live their lives while my bills are through the roof that I have to budget every penny to make ends meet? Do I deserve this? What have I done wrong?
So then...
Firstly suella herself in an interview on the beeb admitted the number was around 45k.That's a touch more than an Everton crowd when they're playing one of the big teams. And you think that amount of people can cause society to collapse?
You are completely right that you don't deserve this, no one does. But the state of the country was a choice made by those in power. What we are seeing now can be traced back to Cameron and Osbourne's austerity that stripped services back so much, that any crisis that came after them has left the country completely on it's arse.
As always with these things, there is always a kernel of common sense and truth in what you say, but if you've watched the liars in charge for 12 years promise you things that haven't materialised then those are the people to hold to account, not fvuking boats for gods sake. There is a huge amount of wealth in this country, more than enough to go round, but choices have been made to keep funnelling it upwards in the pretense that it will trickle down eventually. It's a lie that's been sold for decades that's so pervasive we have working class people defending billioniaires.
The only man with solutions to address the structual issues was hounded out by the same establishment you believe are just about to cure the ills of the country by stepping on other peoples necks instead of your own.
Don't get me wrong, voting labour at the next election will keep you in exactly the same place you are now - a party in thrall to capital and corporations as much as the tory party.
Basically we had 2 chances to avoid this in 17 and 19, and course correct, but what you are seeing now is the ultimate end game of capitalism. You can blame anyone you want, but the liars that sold you a dud brexit to stop immigration are getting the band back together to sell you a story about the boat people invading us.
People bang on in this country about WWII and the greatest generation. Well they came back from the horrors of WWII and chose a socialist fair society that created the NHS, free education, a welfare state to help those struggling, and that has now been taken apart bit by bit, so I'm not saying everyone should think like I do, I'm just saying maybe we should respect the aims and wishes of the "greatest generation" that actually went through through the **** that the Galahads constantly bang on about?
I like you, Alf. I think you're genuinely a good dude, and if ever you want to run through ideas, then my PM's are always open to you.
I’m sure I saw something in this thread about Mica Richards throwing his support behind Lineker ..
He’s a pundit on Skys City v Palace game in 30 minutes !!
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Alternative MOTD
Live on GBnewsHD Tonight 10PM
Marc Dolan
Top Level Footballers in the studio
Thanks !
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Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 05:06 PM
Here is Adolf Hitler: “If the international Jewish financiers should succeed in
plunging the nations once more into a world war, the result will not be the
Bolshevization of the earth and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of
the Jewish race in Europe.”
Here, in the video that so upset Lineker, is Braverman: “We are committed to
helping those in need, like the hundreds of thousands of people we have
supported from Ukraine, Afghanistan and Hong Kong in recent years. But it’s
not fair that people who travel through a string of safe countries and then come
to the UK illegally can jump the queue.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/11/linekers-tweets-arent-grounds-cancel-do-make-case-scrapping/
:facepalm:
arista
11-03-2023, 05:07 PM
Thanks !
Yes GBnewsHD making an effort
10PM tonight
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 05:09 PM
I’m sure I saw something in this thread about Mica Richards throwing his support behind Lineker ..
He’s a pundit on Skys City v Palace game in 30 minutes !!
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What was the date? It's a BBC issue, not an all footie broadcasting issue
arista
11-03-2023, 05:10 PM
The BBC being left leaning has to be the biggest joke ever as to it being so.
Nonsense more like.
It's like they hand pick everytime harder line Cons for the major political interviewing and presenting programmes.
It's got far worse under this detestable lot in government now too.
Look he is High Profile
at the BBC
We all pay his wages.
CEO Tim
he is doing his job,
arista
11-03-2023, 05:13 PM
For Slim
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq4H7bnWIAYo95q?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://twitter.com/coldwarsteve/status/1634252437405020160?s=51&t=TEfd6ZCZRSCJE7JlCxDb6A
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 05:14 PM
For Slim
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq4H7bnWIAYo95q?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://twitter.com/coldwarsteve/status/1634252437405020160?s=51&t=TEfd6ZCZRSCJE7JlCxDb6A
Can you put a date on that, please? :hehe:
the bbc is very much left leaning. There may be a few presenters with right wing views, but the vast majority of staff are of a left persuasion. The evidence for this is in their news presentation and general program output. It's like i was saying earlier, people are not impartial, it's not in their nature to be impartial and that's why the mandatory licence fee is becoming more and more untenable. People wouldn't give a crap if they weren't forced to pay for it
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 05:18 PM
the bbc is very much left leaning. There may be a few presenters with right wing views, but the vast majority of staff are of a left persuasion. The evidence for this is in their news presentation and general program output. It's like i was saying earlier, people are not impartial, it's not in their nature to be impartial and that's why the mandatory licence fee is becoming more and more untenable. People wouldn't give a crap if they weren't forced to pay for it
Just saying something doesn't make it true.
GiRTh
11-03-2023, 05:18 PM
Andrew Neil was allowed to Chair the Spectator, Alan Sugar has criticised the strikes and on one occasion told people to vote Tory.
Apprentice boss Lord Sugar urges Labour supporters to vote Tory to escape Brexit quagmire (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10517153/lord-sugar-tells-labour-voters-fire-corbyn/)
One good thing is, no one can accuse the BBC of being leftist anymore. They've crushed the 'Woke BBC' narrative with this single actions. Now we have to ask how far right is the BBC?
Just saying something doesn't make it true.
that works both ways sir :douf:
Nicky91
11-03-2023, 05:22 PM
Lineker isn't wrong anyway regarding his opinions, that the woke BBC cannot handle the truth, that is their problem
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 05:22 PM
that works both ways sir :douf:
Such as? Still waiting for you to expand on your earlier post, but hey, it is what it is...:blush:
Liam-
11-03-2023, 05:23 PM
Just saying something doesn't make it true.
It does for the right wingers, they’ve made an entire political identity from making things up and being angry over it
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 05:25 PM
It does for the right wingers, they’ve made an entire political identity from making things up and being angry over it
At least I know I'm not in the half of the thread you have on ignore :smug: Have you invited 45k refugees to come and live with you yet? :laugh:
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 05:29 PM
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Ian wright nailing it completely. This was recorded in 1934 (for Arista)
Liam-
11-03-2023, 05:29 PM
At least I know I'm not in the half of the thread you have on ignore :smug: Have you invited 45k refugees to come and live with you yet? :laugh:
Working on the sign for my window as we speak, it’ll be covered in rainbow glitter as well, woke af :love:
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 05:34 PM
Working on the sign for my window as we speak, it’ll be covered in rainbow glitter as well, woke af :love:
Sounds like grooming to me :smug:
Such as? Still waiting for you to expand on your earlier post, but hey, it is what it is...:blush:
there is no law that i must respond to you, or maybe thats a corbyn/left wing thing? :laugh:
arista
11-03-2023, 05:36 PM
Can you put a date on that, please? :hehe:
Yesterday
Liam-
11-03-2023, 05:36 PM
Sounds like grooming to me :smug:
Glitter is wholesome :nono:
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 05:42 PM
Yesterday
all my troubles seemed so far away
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 05:43 PM
there is no law that i must respond to you, or maybe thats a corbyn/left wing thing? :laugh:
I agree, but then don't come into threads, call people stupid, then run away. That's the behaviour of a child. :douf:
Seems like both sides hate the BBC, i've always been vocal of hatred for the ol beeb. Best way to hurt them is obvious...Forget all their scare tactics when you don't pay the scam tax, if everyone just stopped paying they'd be forced to change, or just piss off!
Glitter is wholesome :nono:
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Liam-
11-03-2023, 05:54 PM
We don’t stand with that Gary
LukeB
11-03-2023, 05:54 PM
I stand with Gary Lineker
I stand with Gary Lineker
So did Gary Neville this afternoon .. he’s commentating on the City match on Sky as we speak
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arista
11-03-2023, 05:56 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq8TSlLWcAE_TSH?format=jpg&name=small
So did Gary Neville this afternoon .. he’s commentating on the City match on Sky as we speak
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Wish i had Neville, im having to listen to the insufferable Lee Dixon
City v Palace
Can’t wait to hear the fans reaction when he comes off the bench ..
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Liam-
11-03-2023, 05:59 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq8TSlLWcAE_TSH?format=jpg&name=small
The fake vicar and Tom Harwood will make for thrilling viewing I’m sure
arista
11-03-2023, 06:02 PM
The fake vicar and Tom Harwood will make for thrilling viewing I’m sure
Tom
is not on it
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Tom_Harwood_Headshot.jpg/440px-Tom_Harwood_Headshot.jpg
The BBC has needed a massive shake up for years. I don't think there is an easy way out for them this time round
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 06:07 PM
We don't need to see your masturbation material, Arista.
The BBC has needed a massive shake up for years. I don't think there is an easy way out for them this time round
You can bet that Alex Scott is already planning the decor for her plush new office ..
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arista
11-03-2023, 06:08 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq8qAGAWYAA_fRf?format=jpg&name=small
1634477921288044544
Ian wright nailing it completely. This was recorded in 1934 (for Arista)It starts with words like "kill the anti-vaxers, lock them up, send them to re-education camps. Deny them medical treatment"
Now that is more in line with sounding like 1930s Germany than...
"We want to protect our countries borders"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq8qAGAWYAA_fRf?format=jpg&name=small
Sounds like cough linctus
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arista
11-03-2023, 06:12 PM
"BBC1HD Match of the Day will last 20mins"
Some reports are now saying
GiRTh
11-03-2023, 06:13 PM
"BBC1HD Match of the Day will last 20mins"
Some reports are now saying:laugh:
Sweet!!!!!
it's the exact opposite of referees adding extra time at the world cup :laugh:
:dance:"BBC1HD Match of the Day will last 20mins"
Some reports are now sayingAlf TV is here for you.
20 mins? This just shows how time they waste talking when they should show more of the football being played!
Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 06:19 PM
SHE SHOOTS.
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/9a61fadbc1cb1e5180b662da421089119c6f1951/1_0_2972_1783/master/2972.jpg?width=620&quality=85&dpr=1&s=none
SHE SCORES!.
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU..ELLA
GiRTh
11-03-2023, 06:24 PM
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"BBC1HD Match of the Day will last 20mins"
Some reports are now saying
Sounds like fake news
How can they show highlights of the 6 games in 20 mins
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GiRTh
11-03-2023, 06:30 PM
It reported in a number of news sites
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 06:32 PM
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Same dude who sent Cooper and Thornberry out yesterday to defend the Tories. A political weather vane. The most openly vacuous man to ever exist in politics.
What was the date? It's a BBC issue, not an all footie broadcasting issue
Maybe it was on Twitter
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Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 06:35 PM
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yes i heard about this
unbelievable, what a lowlife he is
Everyone on the news has an agenda on this. It will be a miracle now if the BBC survives it
Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 06:38 PM
:joker:
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1634281533979742217?s=20
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 06:38 PM
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I'm no fan of Campbell but that isn't what happened; he merely asked whether it means the bbc will now have to also point out that the people that run the bbc donate money to the tory party and arrange loans for tory Pm's. Campbell nailed it.
I'm no fan of Campbell but that isn't what happened; he merely asked whether it means the bbc will now have to also point out that the people that run the bbc donate money to the tory party and arrange loans for tory Pm's. Campbell nailed it.
So does he work for the guy he’s been slaughtering all day ?
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It should be about transparency. It's obvious what Linekers political views are now, but if they want impartiality, the bbc need to come clean on the political allegiances of all it's employees. Nothing else is sufficient
Liam-
11-03-2023, 06:47 PM
So now you want to strip them of their privacy as well as their right to an opinion? There’s a word for that, can’t quite think of it though
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 06:51 PM
So does he work for the guy he’s been slaughtering all day ?
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I''m not sure what this means. Any chance you can rephrase it. Apologies for not understanding.
So now you want to strip them of their privacy as well as their right to an opinion? There’s a word for that, can’t quite think of it though
it's the only way you ensure impartiality. i've said all along, i dont think impartiality is possible and that is really only a problem because people are legally forced to pay a licence fee
The Slim Reaper
11-03-2023, 06:53 PM
It should be about transparency. It's obvious what Linekers political views are now, but if they want impartiality, the bbc need to come clean on the political allegiances of all it's employees. Nothing else is sufficient
https://media.tenor.com/qU0gNcwOqVIAAAAM/waynesworld-mental.gif
https://media.tenor.com/qU0gNcwOqVIAAAAM/waynesworld-mental.gif
the nonsense with the bbc chairman shows that all too clearly :smug:
I''m not sure what this means. Any chance you can rephrase it. Apologies for not understanding.
The tweet says he works for Linekers production company.. yet he’s been slaughtering Lineker throughout this affair.
Seems hypocritical
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Crimson Dynamo
11-03-2023, 06:58 PM
Linekar makes a quite ludicrous crass statement about a much-needed government policy and all the kow-tow hand-wringing libtards who work with him come out in support
I love the BBC being exposed and it took their chief VS to do it
its delicious irony :joker:
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