Linekar is at it again. This time Nazis! - knuckles rapped now back!

[arista]

Bargain Hunt today

replaced todays 12PM Football Focus on BBC1HD

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[The Slim Reaper]

the nonsense with the bbc chairman shows that all too clearly :smug:

All that would happen, is every time someone on the beeb said anything to anger a few people on twitter, or Keir the fraud or Rishi hitler, there would be this childish nonsense all over again. On both sides :laugh: No thanks.

[bots]

in fairness, bargain hunt is a step up from the usual programming

[The Slim Reaper]

The tweet says he works for Linekers production company.. yet he’s been slaughtering Lineker throughout this affair.

Seems hypocritical


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No he hasn't. Campbells podcast is hosted by a company owned by Lineker. Campbell was rightly defending Lineker.

[arista]

in fairness, bargain hunt is a step up from the usual programming


Yes for some.

[Zizu]

The fake vicar and Tom Harwood will make for thrilling viewing I’m sure


I’m wondering if it’s simply ClickBait to get some extra viewers

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[bots]

No he hasn't. Campbells podcast is hosted by a company owned by Lineker. Campbell was rightly defending Lineker.

putting Campbell on a pedestal is the height of an obscenity

[The Slim Reaper]

Arista, sort your picture out dragging the screen size.

Typical of

this

poster

[bots]

Arista, sort your picture out dragging the screen size.

Typical of

this

poster

can you date this please

[Zizu]

Bargain Hunt today

replaced todays 12PM Football Focus on BBC1HD

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Massive upgrade


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Football Focus used to be a decent watch, now its a vile woke shadow and is wholly unwatchable.

[Zizu]

No he hasn't. Campbells podcast is hosted by a company owned by Lineker. Campbell was rightly defending Lineker.


Ahhh
My mistake then .. I thought he’d been having a go at Lineker






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[The Slim Reaper]

can you date this please

1969 - Nice

Now zeez quotes the goddamn thing. :facepalm:

[The Slim Reaper]

Ahhh
My mistake then .. I thought he’d been having a go at Lineker


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No probs, we got there in the end.

[bots]

i will do my bit by filling the page

[bots]

Sounds like fake news

How can they show highlights of the 6 games in 20 mins


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From the BBC website .....

MotD to be 20 minutes long with no commentary
BBC One will broadcast a much-reduced episode of Match of the Day this evening, the BBC's sport editor Dan Roan says.

There will be no commentary on the highlights.

It is currently scheduled to begin at 22:20 GMT

[GiRTh]

Interesting that Alistair Campbell was confronted on the BBC. I note no other interview has bought up that Linekers production company produces Campbells podcast. Personally, I think its irrelevant.

[GiRTh]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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its not censoring him, its stopping him from making asinine remarks about things he clearly has no concept of

[Alf]

Don't censor Trump

[GiRTh]

its not censoring him, its stopping him from making asinine remarks about things he clearly has no concept ofWatch the clip. You clearly haven't. A Former BBC direct general is telling you of his own experience of receiving and resisting government pressure.

Linekers tweet was actually very clever. The word Nazi doesn't appear in the tweet and there is nothing more than an implication that the language in the bill was similar. I dont see what you refer to when you say 'asinine'. No way should Lineker be disciplined for it

[bots]

if people want a lesson on what constitutes no free speech, look at russia and china. We are not even close to that and lets not forget that lineker is free to work for 100 alternative media organisations that are not funded by licence payers

[Alf]

if people want a lesson on what constitutes no free speech, look at russia and china. We are not even close to that and lets not forget that lineker is free to work for 100 alternative media organisations that are not funded by licence payersTo be honest, I haven't seen people calling for him to be censored.

They're annoyed that he's once again broken the terms of his contract he signed for a company that we the people pay for and pay him very, very well. We know we'd probably be sacked or disciplined for doing likewise in our jobs.

They also see that the tweet in question, while being entitled to his opinion, is complete and utter bollox.

The policy proposal is nothing like 1930s Germany.

I'm not here to stand up for the establishment parties, but I can still call out bollox when it's in front of my eyes.

I'm still on the side that this is all orchestrated to bury more important issues from the public.

[arista]

Sky EPG
now says Match Of The Day BBC1HD 10:20PM- 10.40PM


Change to the Film is 10:40PM Sully, Tom Hanks plays a Pilot (2016)

The Film : At Any Price is Cancelled

[Crimson Dynamo]

Watch the clip. You clearly haven't. A Former BBC direct general is telling you of his own experience of receiving and resisting government pressure.

Linekers tweet was actually very clever. The word Nazi doesn't appear in the tweet and there is nothing more than an implication that the language in the bill was similar. I dont see what you refer to when you say 'asinine'. No way should Lineker be disciplined for it

"Linekers tweet was actually very clever."

f me

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[Swan]

The biggest load of bollocks about all of this is that it was a short tweet. Best thing to do? Get him on Question Time or something, hell, give him a 30 min interview and broadcast it. Lets hear his opinion in depth.

I honestly hate to bring those other 2 up (we all know who im talking about), they don't stop talking, they've been given all the time in the world. Most disagree with them, but they'll always have their fans. Give Lineker an interview, lets see what he says, and then we can all make a more informed judgement. I would really like him to explain his reasoning for attending the world cup if im honest. These tweets are pretty much useless on the whole. Im not a fan of his, never have been based purely on his smug style of presenting. But im willing to listen to what he has to say on his political views.

[GoldHeart]

I agree about an interview,but not Question time as that is exhausting . Probably another news channel or something .

[GiRTh]

"Linekers tweet was actually very clever."

f me

https://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-ughh.gifCare to offer up why you take this attitude? I dont expect you to. :shrug:

[Alf]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Care to offer up why you take this attitude? I dont expect you to. :shrug:

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[Swan]

I agree about an interview,but not Question time as that is exhausting . Probably another news channel or something .

Yeah i mean, maybe not QT, but lets give him a platform and he can explain in depth what he means.

Not everything is left and right, some of us are open to opinions from both sides. This whole debacle has become such a meme already, i have no idea what to think anymore.

Lets face it, this county is so desired, there are people dying almost daily to get here. We're not Nazi's. The Tories are scum, but even they haven't been anywhere as strict with immigration as most countries in this world.

There literally no middle ground, ever on these political debates. It's a very sad state we're in. None of us can just talk, see both sides. Way too much pointing and shouting.

If we wanna get things right, don't we all need to work together?!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Care to offer up why you take this attitude? I dont expect you to. :shrug:

read the thread dont be lazy for cheap likes

[Zizu]

From the BBC website .....

MotD to be 20 minutes long with no commentary
BBC One will broadcast a much-reduced episode of Match of the Day this evening, the BBC's sport editor Dan Roan says.

There will be no commentary on the highlights.

It is currently scheduled to begin at 22:20 GMT


So just 3 minutes highlights per game ?!
Sounds bonkers


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[Crimson Dynamo]

So just 3 minutes highlights per game ?!
Sounds bonkers


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go woke

get punchier highlights

[GiRTh]

read the thread dont be lazy for cheap likes
I've read it. So far to summarise, you've posted other people's opinions, attacked Lineker, Wright and Shearer, called the BBC 'leftist' and all you've said about the post itself is that it was 'crass' and 'asinine'. You're gonna have to give me a little more to go on :shrug:

[GiRTh]

So just 3 minutes highlights per game ?!
Sounds bonkers


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProSounds about right. The Sky Sports match vids on YouTube are usually around three minutes long

[Zizu]

Sounds about right. The Sky Sports match vids on YouTube are usually around three minutes long


I’m sure the main matches are usually given longer than 3 minutes though ?!


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[GiRTh]

I’m sure the main matches are usually given longer than 3 minutes though ?!


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True, but its probably gonna Man City so lets hope its just three minutes :laugh:

[Zizu]

True, but its probably gonna Man City so lets hope its just three minutes :laugh:


They will struggle to get 3 minutes of highlights out of that dross


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[GiRTh]

They will struggle to get 3 minutes of highlights out of that dross


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Lucky to get a penalty so late on in such an awful game

[joeysteele]

They will struggle to get 3 minutes of highlights out of that dross


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I agree totally.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Man City are a hard watch these days

[Swan]

Chelsea have been excellent their last 2 games. 2 of the goals were beautiful today. ANd i've not heard SB rock like it did mid week in the CL in a long time.

[Zizu]

Man City are a hard watch these days


It’s basically painting by numbers.. you can actually predict each pass before it’s made .. only Grealish and Haaland are thinking outside the box ( or the incessant triangles )


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[joeysteele]

I'm very pleased Chelsea won today.

I've never had any affection for Man City, sorry City fans.

[Zizu]

I’m wondering if it’s simply ClickBait to get some extra viewers

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As I suspected .. total Bollox !

No actual footage / highlights and no actual soccer pundits ..


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[arista]

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[Alf]

I find it absolutely crazy that a Gary Lineker tweet has woke some people up to sudden outrage of anti human rights policies from the Tories, when they've just locked you up in your homes, stopped you from going to work, made you wear a mask, tried to force you to take a vaccine jab and most of you complied, but now all of a sudden t's bad when they want to protect you by securing your borders.

I was calling them out during Covid and for good reason because that did hold similarities to fascism and most of you argued against me, but now a Lineker tweet that is a bullsht comparison is your argument. Bizarre.

I posted the Australian thread during Covid as Australian citizens were getting shot at by the authorities and you argued against me that this was OK because it was for our own good. But here you are with outrage because the government wants to protect your borders.

Upside down World

[user104658]

Who are you actually talking to though Alf? Who are the Lineker supporters on this thread? I actually don't think I've seen any :think:

[Alf]

Who are you actually talking to though Alf? Who are the Lineker supporters on this thread? I actually don't think I've seen any :think:Specifically? Probably Dezzy. He gave me the most arguments during Covid (he wasn't the only one though) and he's the most animated here fighting for Lineker against the forum objectors.

[Mystic Mock]

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The problem with that Daily Mail comment is that it could go for literally any opinion expressed on the BBC, even away from Politics there will always be things that people say on TV Shows that a substantial amount of people won't like.

[arista]

[I find it absolutely crazy that a Gary Lineker
tweet has woke some people up to
sudden outrage of anti human rights policies
from the Tories,
when they've just locked you up
in your homes, stopped you from
going to work, made you wear a mask,
tried to force you to take a vaccine jab
and most of you complied, but now all of a sudden t's bad when
they want to protect you by securing your borders.]



Sure Alf,
Matthew Syed made good points
On Piers Morgan Show Thursday Night.

Gary maybe a Very High BBC Paid Sports Presenter
but if he does this again
he can be fired

When he is fired, he can stay on BT sports
so you will not lose Gary.


At this Time
Gary is the face of the BBC
who he has brought into disrepute.


Let him Go to BT Sports
That can save BBC money

[Mystic Mock]

I find it absolutely crazy that a Gary Lineker tweet has woke some people up to sudden outrage of anti human rights policies from the Tories, when they've just locked you up in your homes, stopped you from going to work, made you wear a mask, tried to force you to take a vaccine jab and most of you complied, but now all of a sudden t's bad when they want to protect you by securing your borders.

I was calling them out during Covid and for good reason because that did hold similarities to fascism and most of you argued against me, but now a Lineker tweet that is a bullsht comparison is your argument. Bizarre.

I posted the Australian thread during Covid as Australian citizens were getting shot at by the authorities and you argued against me that this was OK because it was for our own good. But here you are with outrage because the government wants to protect your borders.

Upside down World

Tbf I don't think anybody was agreeing with Australia's lunacy.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Who are you actually talking to though Alf? Who are the Lineker supporters on this thread? I actually don't think I've seen any :think:

I'm defending Gary Lineker's right to say what he likes.

He didn't threaten to harm anyone, or incite anyone else to harm other people, he just didn't like a policy, which he should be allowed to do without the Tories or the BBC dictating to him otherwise.

[Alf]

Tbf I don't think anybody was agreeing with Australia's lunacy.:joker:You might be right in heart, they may have just been disagreeing with what I said just for the sake of disagreeig with me

I mean, who wants to be seen agreeing with a far-right, bigoted, Qanon, Conspiracy theorist? It's not good for the image, is it?

[Zizu]

Alex Scott getting roasted on Twitter

( check through the comments)

:)

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[Mystic Mock]

You might be right in heart, they may have just been disagreeing with what I said just for the sake of disagreeig with me

I mean, who wants to be seen agreeing with a far-right, bigoted, Qanon, Conspiracy theorist? It's not good for the image, is it?

Well I'll definitely say that I agree with you that the Australians took their lockdown procedures too far imo.

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

How did we get to the point where the government is commenting on a crisp-slinger's tweets? Aren't there more important things for them to worry about?

Obviously they work on several things at once, but bandwidth being spent on this, isn't being spent on something else.

[Tom4784]

Tim Davie refusing to say that Gary Linekar would have faced the same consequences if he voiced support for the immigration bill is cringe-inducing. The way he avoided the question really cements the fact that the BBC is just a bunch of tory shills at this point.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

https://twitter.com/Sjopinion10/status/1634883592164712450?s=20

This would hinge entirely on if Lineker's contract does specifically state political neutrality in public and I don't think we've seen his contract. It definitely shouldn't be taken "as given" that if you sign a contract with the BBC you're signing up for political neutrality. It's certainly never been the case in the past.

[joeysteele]

I'm defending Gary Lineker's right to say what he likes.

He didn't threaten to harm anyone, or incite anyone else to harm other people, he just didn't like a policy, which he should be allowed to do without the Tories or the BBC dictating to him otherwise.

Absolutely right.
Totally agree.

Unlike the awful Home secretary we have, he doesn't talk about these Human beings as if they are unwanted mail or rubbish to be got rid of elsewhere.

He also never ever mentioned the word 'nazi' he was also only on about language used, not individuals.

I'm not a Lineker fan at all but I support him 100% on this.
As for the now rarely impartial BBC and its pandering to the trashy Mail and this shocking dictatorial style government, well that's the real problem here.
The BBC and this government.
Not Lineker.

Your second paragraph sums this all up perfectly for me Mock.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This would hinge entirely on if Lineker's contract does specifically state political neutrality in public and I don't think we've seen his contract. It definitely shouldn't be taken "as given" that if you sign a contract with the BBC you're signing up for political neutrality. It's certainly never been the case in the past.

Pretty sure if it did NOT

we would have heard that by now

So its just a breach of contract issue and hopefully he will be terminated

[bots]

it's a much wider problem than lineker now. BBC staff have downed tools and arent covering any football. Womens football has been zapped today. If the BBC back down, any pretence of impartiality is out the window. If the BBC stand firm, the "strike" will expand.

This just doesn't have a good outcome for the BBC. The only course i see is to terminate linekers contract immediately and try and move on. The stepping back till they agree social media behaviour is feeding the fire

[Zizu]

Breaking news

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[Crimson Dynamo]

it's a much wider problem than lineker now. BBC staff have downed tools and arent covering any football. Womens football has been zapped today. If the BBC back down, any pretence of impartiality is out the window. If the BBC stand firm, the "strike" will expand.

This just doesn't have a good outcome for the BBC. The only course i see is to terminate linekers contract immediately and try and move on. The stepping back till they agree social media behaviour is feeding the fire

If his contract says he cannot do that and he has been warned then sack him and every other person involved. No other company would tolerate this

[The Slim Reaper]

it's a much wider problem than lineker now. BBC staff have downed tools and arent covering any football. Womens football has been zapped today. If the BBC back down, any pretence of impartiality is out the window. If the BBC stand firm, the "strike" will expand.

This just doesn't have a good outcome for the BBC. The only course i see is to terminate linekers contract immediately and try and move on. The stepping back till they agree social media behaviour is feeding the fire

Backing down when you're wrong is not a weakness, but should be seen as a strength.

[user104658]

Pretty sure if it did NOT

we would have heard that by now

So its just a breach of contract issue and hopefully he will be terminated

If it is stipulated in contract then half of the BBC will have to go - that's the issue here. I imagine if it is in contract, it's been casually unenforced for a long time... If they start they have to be consistent. A lot of BBC programming in general would be under a large question mark.

In practice I doubt the contract stipulates political neutrality OUTSIDE OF WORK because that would be very, very unusual. It sounds more like they've entered into negotiations with him requesting he tone it down, and he's said no.

[bots]

Backing down when you're wrong is not a weakness, but should be seen as a strength.

well, thats where there is genuine disagreement. Part of my agreement to pay the licence fee is that the bbc remain impartial. If they back down, the "strike" will move to the bill payers and then the BBC will have a much bigger issue

[user104658]

well, thats where there is genuine disagreement. Part of my agreement to pay the licence fee is that the bbc remain impartial. If they back down, the "strike" will move to the bill payers and then the BBC will have a much bigger issue

When has the BBC ever been politically neutral though? I can give examples of them leaning both ways (impartiality doesn't mean neutrality!) and they'd need to put an end to both in all of their programming and not just that - for all of their presenters, and actors in BBC shoes, regardless of context.

Its not sustainable.

But from my perspective that's really the only answer here; the BBC/license fee is not fit for purpose in todays media and social landscape.

[bots]

When has the BBC ever been politically neutral though? I can give examples of them leaning both ways (impartiality doesn't mean neutrality!) and they'd need to put an end to both in all of their programming and not just that - for all of their presenters, and actors in BBC shoes, regardless of context.

Its not sustainable.

But from my perspective that's really the only answer here; the BBC/license fee is not fit for purpose in todays media and social landscape.

it's never been sustainable, just ignored or covered up and social media and the availability of a plethora of alternative channels makes a mockery of impartiality.


Not being funny here, but i bet the majority of people supporting lineker at this point, don't even pay a TV licence. It becomes more and more likely, the longer this continues, that people will simply refuse to pay the licence. You can bet that if support coalesces behind lineker, there will be a similarly activated group that refuses to provide the BBC any further funding. If that becomes an organised group, the BBC is properly ****ed

[The Slim Reaper]

well, thats where there is genuine disagreement. Part of my agreement to pay the licence fee is that the bbc remain impartial. If they back down, the "strike" will move to the bill payers and then the BBC will have a much bigger issue

Lineker and Sugar both attacked Corbyn on Twitter, Sugar, right on the eve of elections and more than once. Yet I don't remember him being taken off the air, or the left (the only participators in cancel culture apparently) kicking up the same storm. there has been a wholly unsettling unity and forced conformity from the rw press on this.

If you haven't been moaning about Andrew Neil's twitter use over the years, then you're not really being honest or sincere. You don't want to hear opinions that challenge your own opinions on refugees, and that's the crux of it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lineker and Sugar both attacked Corbyn on Twitter, Sugar, right on the eve of elections and more than once. Yet I don't remember him being taken off the air, or the left (the only participators in cancel culture apparently) kicking up the same storm. there has been a wholly unsettling unity and forced conformity from the rw press on this.

If you haven't been moaning about Andrew Neil's twitter use over the years, then you're not really being honest or sincere. You don't want to hear opinions that challenge your own opinions on refugees, and that's the crux of it.

the new updated impartiality guidelines were made in 2020

the sugar stuff etc was before that

[bots]

Lineker and Sugar both attacked Corbyn on Twitter, Sugar, right on the eve of elections and more than once. Yet I don't remember him being taken off the air, or the left (the only participators in cancel culture apparently) kicking up the same storm. there has been a wholly unsettling unity and forced conformity from the rw press on this.

If you haven't been moaning about Andrew Neil's twitter use over the years, then you're not really being honest or sincere. You don't want to hear opinions that challenge your own opinions on refugees, and that's the crux of it.

as i've just said, previous breaches have been brushed under the carpet. People are just not impartial and never have been, but that IS the basis on which the BBC is funded and it is the single biggest issue the new director general has chosen to hang his hat on

[Tom4784]

it's a much wider problem than lineker now. BBC staff have downed tools and arent covering any football. Womens football has been zapped today. If the BBC back down, any pretence of impartiality is out the window. If the BBC stand firm, the "strike" will expand.

This just doesn't have a good outcome for the BBC. The only course i see is to terminate linekers contract immediately and try and move on. The stepping back till they agree social media behaviour is feeding the fire

'The only way to fix this fire is to throw chip fat onto it!'

That's basically what you are saying.

If they sack Linekar, the problem will explode because the problem here is that they are claiming impartiality to punish Linekar when they NEVER hold the tory supporters in the BBC to the same standard. They're claiming impartiality to punish someone who has basically opposed the tories when they'll allow tory viewpoints to run wild without limitation.

The problem isn't Linekar, it's that the BBC has no impartiality and no grounds to act in the guise of impartiality.

[user104658]

it's never been sustainable, just ignored or covered up and social media and the availability of a plethora of alternative channels makes a mockery of impartiality.


Not being funny here, but i bet the majority of people supporting lineker at this point, don't even pay a TV licence. It becomes more and more likely, the longer this continues, that people will simply refuse to pay the licence. You can bet that if support coalesces behind lineker, there will be a similarly activated group that refuses to provide the BBC any further funding. If that becomes an organised group, the BBC is properly ****ed

It can only possible be in its final days anyway, broadcast television is ending. It obviously has decades left because stoll plenty of people who grew up with it, but today's teens and young adults mostly just don't watch it. It's just... Not part of their day. My sister in law is 26 and just broke up with her partner and moved into her own place - hasn't even bothered connecting the TV for broadcast telly in any way. Just Netflix and YouTube. My daughter's 14 and her (and most and her friends) have basically NEVER watched broadcast TV... My daughter only watches the TV - at all - if we're all watching a film together. She gets all of her entertainment via her phone and laptop. That's just the norm these days and the BBC model just isn't compatible.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It can only possible be in its final days anyway, broadcast television is ending. It obviously has decades left because stoll plenty of people who grew up with it, but today's teens and young adults mostly just don't watch it. It's just... Not part of their day. My sister in law is 26 and just broke up with her partner and moved into her own place - hasn't even bothered connecting the TV for broadcast telly in any way. Just Netflix and YouTube. My daughter's 14 and her (and most and her friends) have basically NEVER watched broadcast TV... My daughter only watches the TV - at all - if we're all watching a film together. She gets all of her entertainment via her phone and laptop. That's just the norm these days and the BBC model just isn't compatible.

Broadcast TV is not a thing at all for smallest boy LT

[Liam-]

The people harping on about ‘impartiality’ wouldn’t be doing so had Linekar expressed his support for the policy he was criticising and that’s just an unavoidable fact of the matter, he’d have been on motd last night and this situation wouldn’t have happened to start with, this whole saga has nothing whatsoever to do with impartiality

[Tom4784]

The people harping on about ‘impartiality’ wouldn’t be doing so had Linekar expressed his support for the policy he was criticising and that’s just an unavoidable fact of the matter, he’d have been on motd last night and this situation wouldn’t have happened to start with, this whole saga has nothing whatsoever to do with impartiality

Yup, it's just Tory backlash for speaking against their barbaric plans.

[bots]

Broadcast TV is not a thing at all for smallest boy LT

i watch live football on satellite channels, i don't watch any terrestrial tv, the last time i watched bbc news was in the very early days of covid

[Crimson Dynamo]

The people harping on about ‘impartiality’ wouldn’t be doing so had Linekar expressed his support for the policy he was criticising and that’s just an unavoidable fact of the matter, he’d have been on motd last night and this situation wouldn’t have happened to start with, this whole saga has nothing whatsoever to do with impartiality

i see you have used the word fact when you should have used the correct term conjecture

[user104658]

Broadcast TV is not a thing at all for smallest boy LT

I remember explaining to my eldest when she was about 9 that a shoe was on "later" and that you couldn't pick what to watch when, it was just on when it was on, and she was BAMBOOZLED. Couldn't get her head around it, and when she did, it was an immediate "It's a no from me!"

I can see negatives too, to be fair, there's a level of impatience and susceptibility to boredom that comes along with entertainment being always there at the push of a button.

Feel like a dinosaur saying things like that though :umm2:. "In my day you got Pokemon after school and Byker Grove then Neighbours before dinner and that was you until Saturday!!"

[user104658]

i watch live football on satellite channels, i don't watch any terrestrial tv, the last time i watched bbc news was in the very early days of covid

IMO sport is headed for non-professional commentary, people will stream and play commentator via social platforms for their subs and it'll be paid for via some mechanism of that - either ads or subs driven.

Probably a better model to get to pick & choose who you like to hear giving commentary tbh.

This already happens a lot "unofficially" already which is a good indication that they'll eventually figure out how to make it profitable.

[joeysteele]

:joker:Breaking news

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That's only part of what he said.

Yes he said, it 'APPEARED' to be a 'TECHNICAL' breach of the rules.
However added that Lineker's status as a 'SPORTS' presenter, meant the row was a 'GREY' area.
Stating the BBC 'MUST' strike a balance when enforcing the rules.

From that the only assumption I would make is the BBC have acted way too heavy handedly on this matter.
The BBC are no longer in my view, adept at striking much in the way of balance, never mind the right balance at all now.

[bots]

all sorts of considerations need to apply. The fact that he was previously warned about it is a crucial factor that people seem to just ignore.

Also, can it be described as the straw that broke the camels back and i think the answer is a resounding yes. The appointment of the BBC chairman on the back of a massive loan to Boris pissed off most people across any political divide. Then we have a massive dose of perfectly reasonable "what about ism's"

My view is very simple, i pay my bbc contribution on the back of impartiality, and the BBC is not. It has broken its charter agreement and therefore i should not be under any further legal duty to continue to fund it. When I stop being legally compelled to fund the bbc, that is the point i don't care about how it is run. Until then, i will hold them to their charter

[bots]

as an aside, i'm watching a sports channel at the moment that has Ian Wright and Alan Shearer as pundits talking about the days games :laugh:

[user104658]

:joker:

That's only part of what he said.

Yes he said, it 'APPEARED' to be a 'TECHNICAL' breach of the rules.
However added that Lineker's status as a 'SPORTS' presenter, meant the row was a 'GREY' area.
Stating the BBC 'MUST' strike a balance when enforcing the rules.

From that the only assumption I would make is the BBC have acted way too heavy handedly on this matter.
The BBC are no longer in my view, adept at striking much in the way of balance, never mind the right balance at all now.

The impression I get though is that they've had talks with him explaining this, and said he can't continue making political comments like this and stay in the job, and he has then made the decision to leave rather than have his opinion reigned in. Which is fair enough, and entirely his choice.

[bots]

The impression I get though is that they've had talks with him explaining this, and said he can't continue making political comments like this and stay in the job, and he has then made the decision to leave rather than have his opinion reigned in. Which is fair enough, and entirely his choice.

he didn't make the decision to leave, he was told he couldn't return to the bbc until he agreed to their terms. Same effect, but different execution

[arista]

the new updated impartiality guidelines were made in 2020

the sugar stuff etc was before that


Yes LT
do not expect Slim to have the Full Facts

[GiRTh]

the new updated impartiality guidelines were made in 2020

the sugar stuff etc was before thatTelling people to vote Tory in 2019 probably still breached the guideline that were in place

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes LT
do not expect Slim to have the Full Facts

:joker:

Will you snog me, Arista?

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker:

Will you snog me, Arista?

YOu were talking about dates yesterday :omgno:


2019 specifically

[bots]

Telling people to vote Tory in 2019 probably still breached the guideline that were in place

if it was done during the official campaign window (i can't recall) it actually breaches electoral commission rules which is a criminal offence

[The Slim Reaper]

YOu were talking about dates yesterday :omgno:


2019 specifically

Girth answered that. and pretty sure Lineker gave an interview to the telegraph after that date, where he said he was allowed to tweet his thoughts, although admittedly I might be wrong on the dates of that interview because I can't be arsed to go and find it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes LT
do not expect Slim to have the Full Facts

I mean, only one tibb election ever really mattered, and it was the one where arista got his arse handed to him. You're most welcome :smug:.

[arista]

:joker:

Will you snog me, Arista?


Do not need to.

[Crimson Dynamo]

SIR – The real story concerning Gary Lineker is not that he has been
sanctioned by his employer, but that it took the BBC so long to act against
this overpaid motormouth (“Match of the Day in ‘meltdown’ as pundits side
with host”, report, March 11).

Any claims that he was entitled to his private opinions because he is a
freelancer are entirely specious. I was a freelance reporter and presenter for
the BBC for 14 years and it was common knowledge then that if you
embarrassed the corporation in any way, or brought it into disrepute, then
you would be sacked.

One can only assume that Mr Lineker was allowed to promulgate his
offensive views for so long because his liberal-Left opinions chimed with so many others in the national broadcaster’s workforce.

R G Purches
Bristol

[The Slim Reaper]

Do not need to.

But would you like to?

[Parmy]

as an aside, i'm watching a sports channel at the moment that has Ian Wright and Alan Shearer as pundits talking about the days games :laugh:

Al Jazeera?

[joeysteele]

Be interesting to see how this terminates.
It seems according to the news, there is a possible breakthrough.

Let's hope the BBC will be climbing down from its ridiculous high horse it has set itself on.
Because for me I blame the BBC and the influence from some hard-line Con MPs for this unnecessary farce that's been allowed to build.

[Alf]

If you was a multi-millionaire like Lineker. Would you still work?

I know I wouldn't. I'd have better things to do, like spending my money.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder why no Labour MPS spotted Suella's Nazi language

in fact noone did but "id be an uber driver if i wasn't good at football" Linekar?

does make you wonder

[Mystic Mock]

SIR – The real story concerning Gary Lineker is not that he has been
sanctioned by his employer, but that it took the BBC so long to act against
this overpaid motormouth (“Match of the Day in ‘meltdown’ as pundits side
with host”, report, March 11).

Any claims that he was entitled to his private opinions because he is a
freelancer are entirely specious. I was a freelance reporter and presenter for
the BBC for 14 years and it was common knowledge then that if you
embarrassed the corporation in any way, or brought it into disrepute, then
you would be sacked.

One can only assume that Mr Lineker was allowed to promulgate his
offensive views for so long because his liberal-Left opinions chimed with so many others in the national broadcaster’s workforce.

R G Purches
Bristol

Maybe just maybe people want the BBC to stop unfairly sacking people for holding an opinion that doesn't physically harm anyone? Or incite anyone.

[bots]

Maybe just maybe people want the BBC to stop unfairly sacking people for holding an opinion that doesn't physically harm anyone? Or incite anyone.

you cant unfairly sack a freelancer, their contract can be terminated at any time for any reason

[bots]

it's all about saving face now. My guess is the BBC will say they received some assurances from lineker and hope it all blows over .... until it inevitably happens again

[Alf]

New week, everyone back to work.

Still, that kept our minds off other things for the weekend.


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[joeysteele]

I do have to say I like to see the BBC getting hammered.
They don't care at all as they can be so arrogant.

I hope Lineker though refuses to apologise or be silenced.
There's not anywhere near enough people who will or can speak up for those who need others to speak up for them.

As for BBC impartiality.
That's the now joke of the century since I doubt they know the meaning of the word.

[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

you cant unfairly sack a freelancer, their contract can be terminated at any time for any reason

Legally you can't, but morally the reason for his potential sacking here is clearly unreasonable from the BBC.

[bots]

Legally you can't, but morally the reason for his potential sacking here is clearly unreasonable from the BBC.

the whole point of having someone as a freelancer is you can get rid for any reason. None needed so your argument is false

[Zizu]

So is everyone at the BeeB on freelance contracts??


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[arista]

Gary returns to the BBC


https://news.sky.com/story/gary-lineker-to-return-to-hosting-sport-for-the-bbc-following-row-over-migration-tweets-12832734

[Zizu]

Labour started this problem back in 2001 when Tony Blair appointed Gavin Davies a Labour donor who put Greg Dyke in charge !

The BeeB has been a political football for decades..


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[user104658]

Gary returns to the BBC


https://news.sky.com/story/gary-lineker-to-return-to-hosting-sport-for-the-bbc-following-row-over-migration-tweets-12832734

:joker: :joker:

Someone is getting fired. Someone at the Beeb has jumped the gun before having the lawyers properly look over their Social Media conduct rules an Linekar's contract and is now in big twubble.

[The Slim Reaper]

Coming up on GB news at the top of the hour - is contract law woke? That's the question we'll be asking Matt leTissier and the guy who got his dog to do a nazi salute.

[user104658]

the whole point of having someone as a freelancer is you can get rid for any reason. None needed so your argument is false

This is just totally incorrect BOTS - you can't cancel a freelancer's contract without good cause whilst in contract, it's actually harder than firing someone who works as an employee.

You can get rid of them as soon as the contract term is up by simply not renewing their contract but if you terminate a freelancer's contract that was, let's say, signed for 3 years but you want them gone after 2 years but without very good cause (gross misconduct et al - the things people would normally be fired for - will obviously nullify the contract) ... you basically have two options. One is to wait it out and not resign, the other is to ask them to physically leave but still pay them the full amount for the three years (or ask them to agree to the contract being bought out for a lesser sum). Otherwise, you're going to get sued (and lose).

Why it's harder than with an employee - you can make an employee redundant for financial reasons if the company is struggling. You can't cancel on a freelancer just because you ran out of money. You still owe them the money stated in the contract and if you can't pay you're looking at bankruptcy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

MOTD gets 2 million viewers and Lineker gets paid £1.2 quid?

what

[Liam-]

Linekar being suspended for being ‘impartial’ his colleagues standing with him, him being apologies to and being out back on air, is one of the most beautiful displays of ****ting the bed I’ve ever seen :love:

In doing their masters bidding, the Tory bbc bosses have just further exposed the true source of impartiality more than its ever been, one of them has to go for sure after dropping the ball and pulling back the curtain this badly, this publicly

[arista]

MOTD gets 2 million viewers and Lineker gets paid £1.2 quid?

what


He took a Pay Cut
at least.

[arista]

Coming up on GB news at the top of the hour - is contract law woke? That's the question we'll be asking Matt leTissier and the guy who got his dog to do a nazi salute.


No
they are debating HSBC buying
SVB UK for £1

[The Slim Reaper]

No
they are debating HSBC buying
SVB UK for £1

Is that more


fake news

typical

of that

poster


?

[arista]

:joker: :joker:

Someone is getting fired. Someone at the Beeb has jumped the gun before having the lawyers properly look over their Social Media conduct rules an Linekar's contract and is now in big twubble.



Gary has been sensible
agreed to not do Political Toxic Tweets
while CEO Tim
sorts out the rules.

[arista]

Is that more


fake news

typical

of that

poster


?

No it is Fact
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11271447#post11271447

[bots]

all they have done is push the issue down the road, the problem they have is that people will be hypersensitive to any perceived bias now, so, it probably wont be a week before the next issue raises its head :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

The GBP is sick of the tories and their anti-woke nonsense

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[Cherie]

If Labour was headed up by Kermit the Frog they should get in next time hands down, if the Torys win again there will be no coming back from that

[The Slim Reaper]

I completely agree. The tories are where they are because of themselves, which is why it's disheartening to see a labour party with zero ambition and very little difference between their policies and tory ones.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I guess the only good thing to come from this ridiculous thing is that Lineker wont be tweeting so much of his horrible hand-wringing nonsense now he has had this knuckle rap

[The Slim Reaper]

All you have to do is unfollow him, LT :smug:

[bots]

The GBP is sick of the tories and their anti-woke nonsense

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It should be all about the scale of the wipe out. Whether it ends up being a minor loss or a lib dem type loss

[Crimson Dynamo]

All you have to do is unfollow him, LT :smug:

perish the thought. I dont follow any football players as it goes

[Parmy]

What a climb down by linekar..absolutely gutless man.

[arista]

What a climb down by linekar..absolutely gutless man.


He has his Job back


And no Political Tweets
wile the BBC CEO Tim
does a review.

No time given on how long it will take

[Zizu]

What a climb down by linekar..absolutely gutless man.


Like Madonna used to say .. any publicity is good publicity


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[user104658]

The GBP is sick of the tories and their anti-woke nonsense

I can see what you're trying to get at here but IMO it's completely the opposite that's happening ... people are thoroughly and unquestionably sick of Tory economic policies and the effect they're having on the country, especially the poor and working families. The ONLY reason that Labour isn't absolutely stomping them into the dust across the board is that too many people find themselves more aligned with conservative thinking when it comes to the non-economic stuff, or rather, they don't find Labour moderate enough. Contributes massively to people being tempted towards the Tories at crunch time, and to complete voter apathy.

Personally I wish Labour would just focus heavily on wealth redistibution and social economic policies that make people's lives measurably more liveable (i.e. sorting out housing, fuel and personal debt issues) and leave the sociology to experts and professionals. I think they'd walk the next election.

As things stand I reckon the Tories despite blatantly destroying the economy and making everyone's lives miserable and full of stress/anxiey will STILL win the next election... ... ... and that should say a lot.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/13/11/68642983-11853351-image-m-12_1678706447999.jpg


Nice Dog.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/13/11/68642983-11853351-image-m-12_1678706447999.jpg


Nice Dog.

i wonder if he has his left-wing dog whistle in his pocket?

[joeysteele]

Doesn't look like even knuckles rapped to me.
On the original tweet and it's content, he hasn't even had to address that matter further.

All he's done is now said he will consider the current guidelines until the independent review reports back .
Plus HE supports the independent review.
A review the BBC didn't really likely want to even have.

So to me it's a win all round in the main for Lineker and the BBC having been left crawling to him, to get him back in his Match of the Day role as quick as possible.

[Parmy]

I dont think it's a case of getting linekar back, I think its more a case of not being able to replace him due to his fellow whingers siding with him by refusing to appear.

[GiRTh]

Doesn't look like even knuckles rapped to me.
On the original tweet and it's content, he hasn't even had to address that matter further.

All he's done is now said he will consider the current guidelines until the independent review reports back .
Plus HE supports the independent review.
A review the BBC didn't really likely want to even have.

So to me it's a win all round in the main for Lineker and the BBC having been left crawling to him, to get him back in his Match of the Day role as quick as possible.Agree Joey.

Lineker looks like he's coming back on his terms. The BBC look like bitches. :hee:

[GiRTh]

I guess the only good thing to come from this ridiculous thing is that Lineker wont be tweeting so much of his horrible hand-wringing nonsense now he has had this knuckle rap
:joker:

I think his 4 page tweet today is far stronger than the tweet that got him into trouble

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker:

I think his 4 page tweet today is far stronger than the tweet that got him into trouble

the vanity of the man knows no bounds

what a big lassie he is

[Crimson Dynamo]

"A final thought: however difficult the last few days have been, it simply doesn’t
compare to having to flee your home from persecution or war to seek refuge in
a land far away. "


War-torn Albania


:laugh2:

He really is a thick twat

[Alf]

Agree Joey.

Lineker looks like he's coming back on his terms. The BBC look like bitches. :hee:As someone who pays into this company, I don't like being made to look like a bitch.

But once again I have to be the bigger man and just accept it because the whining children have got their own way. And if I didn't accept it, I'd be made out to be the bad guy.

When do the virtue signallers stand up for this minority victim?

[joeysteele]

Agree Joey.

Lineker looks like he's coming back on his terms. The BBC look like bitches. :hee:

Absolutely Girth.
That's exactly the result.

One in the eye too for those 30+ Con MPs who were baying for his permanent removal.
BBC need to learn to NOT be the mouthpiece for this Con government or indeed any Party in government.

[bots]

this issue hasn't gone away. The BBC have taken the path of least resistance because they know their licence fee is in jeopardy. As i said earlier, there will be further stuff coming out shortly on employee impartiality, promises about independent reviews etc is just kicking the can in the hope people will forget, and they wont

[GiRTh]

the vanity of the man knows no bounds

what a big lassie he is'Predominantly tolerant' made me laugh. That on its own would usually have got him into trouble.

Linekers done 'em. The Beeb big wigs arent as powerful as as the think. :laugh:

[GiRTh]

As someone who pays into this company, I don't like being made to look like a bitch.

But once again I have to be the bigger man and just accept it because the whining children have got their own way. And if I didn't accept it, I'd be made out to be the bad guy.

When do the virtue signallers stand up for this minority victim?You'll have to fight that one on your own. We the viewers seem to be way down the list of priorities

[GiRTh]

Absolutely Girth.
That's exactly the result.

One in the eye too for those 30+ Con MPs who were baying for his permanent removal.
BBC need to learn to NOT be the mouthpiece for this Con government or indeed any Party in government.Was it 30+? They thought they could just wave a hand and he would be gone. I think their approaching the BBC for this type of special treatment needs to be investigated

[Tom4784]

This whole story serves as excellent proof that cancel culture doesn't exist. After all, if the right wing can't cancel someone on a network that blows them every night, who can?

[Alf]

This whole story serves as excellent proof that cancel culture doesn't exist. After all, if the right wing can't cancel someone on a network that blows them every night, who can?Maybe this outcome proves it isn't a right wing network after all, and you was wrong?

I know you being wrong is an impossibility, but stranger things have happened. It was raining worms in China today.

[Tom4784]

Maybe this outcome proves it isn't a right wing network after all, and you was wrong?

I know you being wrong is an impossibility, but stranger things have happened. It was raining worms in China today.

Facts say otherwise. Alan Sugar fronts the Aprrentice and is able to comment on politics and say downright racist stuff with little blowback, Fiona Bruce downplayed the domestic violence of Stanley Johnson and has generally favoured tories on QT since she took over the show, Andrew Neil was on the news team and was frequently deepthroating the tories. Nevermind the fact that Richard Sharp was basically Boris' cash machine.

Cancel culture doesn't exist.

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CEO Tim


Why all the Boxes
is this a sub code message?

[The Slim Reaper]

Kelvin Mackenzie advocating we use the SAS to flat out murder them. Completely normal behaviour for a normal island.


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[arista]

Kelvin Mackenzie

Slim
he is not an MP or anyone of worth, now.

His Words mean nothing.
Fantasy from Mackenzie

[The Slim Reaper]

Kelvin Mackenzie

Slim
he is not an MP or anyone of worth, now.

His Words mean nothing.
Fantasy from Mackenzie

He's in the news business shaping opinions. He's on your favourite channel, so lets not pretend he is a nobody in the debate.

Responsible for the sun Hillsborough shame.

https://itstartedwithwords.org/

[arista]

He's in the news business shaping opinions. He's on your favourite channel, so lets not pretend he is a nobody in the debate.

Responsible for the sun Hillsborough shame.



This is why you go wrong


HE WAS in the news business


NOT anymore

[The Slim Reaper]

This why you go wrong


HE WAS in the news business


NOT anymore

I apologise, I thought he was saying this on a major TV news channel, and not shouting it on a street corner with a sandwich board.

Keep burying your head in the sand.

[arista]

I apologise, I thought he was saying this on a major TV news channel, and not shouting it on a street corner with a sandwich board.

Keep burying your head in the sand.


But you say no one is watching GBnewsHD

I will not worry about an Old Newspaper editor


USA Markets are Down.
that matters more

[arista]

GBnewsHD is not my Favourite channel

It is one I use
among 5 others

And now they have Subtitles
even better

[The Slim Reaper]

But you say no one is watching GBnewsHD

I will not worry about an Old Newspaper editor


USA Markets are Down.
that matters more

No i don't. I said no one was watching it. They're obviously doing better now, and I also said the aim wasn't for this to work instantly, but to weave it's way into UK consciousness over a longer time, like fox has done in the US. They are haemorrhaging money that would put them out of business, but they have investors who want to keep using their propaganda.

Of course you won't worry about him, when he's saying the things you want to hear.

[arista]

No i don't. I said no one was watching it. They're obviously doing better now, and I also said the aim wasn't for this to work instantly, but to weave it's way into UK consciousness over a longer time, like fox has done in the US. They are haemorrhaging money that would put them out of business, but they have investors who want to keep using their propaganda.

Of course you won't worry about him, when he's saying the things you want to hear.


I Expect Old Kelvin
to say stuff like that.

He is changing nothing.


GBnewsHD is nothing like FoxNewsHD

[arista]

"They're obviously doing better now"


Yes Eamon Holmes has helped
bring in bigger audiences.


And Soon Chris Hope has a new Show

[Alf]

Kelvin Mackenzie advocating we use the SAS to flat out murder them. Completely normal behaviour for a normal island.


1632886339589881857GB news?

Incel rubbish.

You need to stop watching this and sharing it. This is all scripted rubbish.

You can do better than this.

You need to pull back from the precipice.

[joeysteele]

GB news?

Incel rubbish.

You need to stop watching this and sharing it. This is all scripted rubbish.

You can do better than this.

GB news is okay sometimes but week by week it's now getting worse.
I now rarely even put it on now.

It was always worse in the evenings

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kelvin saying we should shoot the smugglers. Great idea. That would stop them

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bev looks amazing

Lrk6xT8rkDg

[bots]

Kelvin saying we should shoot the smugglers. Great idea. That would stop them

So, we send our hit squads over to France to take them out, what could possibly go wrong there

[Crimson Dynamo]

So, we send our hit squads over to France to take them out, what could possibly go wrong there

nothing if done properly

[arista]

The Online Paper:

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8262f098-e5ff-4420-916e-5d656afed8ff.jpeg

[bots]

he is going to test the boundaries all the time now

[joeysteele]

That's a really lip service message from the BBC.
Not worth time to read it I think.

In my view, had the issue been about a Labour party OR other Party former leader and their Father, with the same issue.
She'd have more than likely extended the debate on it rather than close it down for Johnson and his Father purely because they ARE Cons.

[Tom4784]

I'm glad he is making the BBC look foolish, because they are foolish. Defund the BBC completely until they actually employ impartiality instead of just being a tory mouthpiece.

[The Slim Reaper]

That's a really lip service message from the BBC.
Not worth time to read it I think.

In my view, had the issue been about a Labour party OR other Party former leader and their Father, with the same issue.
She'd have more than likely extended the debate on it rather than close it down for Johnson and his Father purely because they ARE Cons.

Her husband is a tory party fundraiser, so they are tory party establishment. Of course she runs interference.

[Crimson Dynamo]

SIR – What became a contest between Gary Lineker and the BBC would have
ended much better if both parties had agreed that they had lost. They could
then have agreed that they would work together to clarify the impartiality
rules for BBC employees.

What happened instead was that Tim Davie, the BBC’s director-general,
apologised, which is to say he admitted to being in the wrong. Mr Lineker, on
the other hand, issued a statement with no hint of acknowledging anything
other than being right.

No organisation can allow itself to be seen as having a director-general who
is in thrall to one of its employees, let alone a freelancer, as distinct from a
direct employee. Mr Davie has made the job impossible for anyone other
than a character strong enough to deal robustly with Mr Lineker – if indeed it
is possible to find such a person.

Philip Lloyd
Yarm, North Yorkshire

[The Slim Reaper]

Any idea what Dave Jones from west Sussex thinks? :laugh:

[James]

I thought this article was interesting.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrKfli2XsAEUB4c?format=jpg&name=large

[Tom4784]

SIR – What became a contest between Gary Lineker and the BBC would have
ended much better if both parties had agreed that they had lost. They could
then have agreed that they would work together to clarify the impartiality
rules for BBC employees.

What happened instead was that Tim Davie, the BBC’s director-general,
apologised, which is to say he admitted to being in the wrong. Mr Lineker, on
the other hand, issued a statement with no hint of acknowledging anything
other than being right.

No organisation can allow itself to be seen as having a director-general who
is in thrall to one of its employees, let alone a freelancer, as distinct from a
direct employee. Mr Davie has made the job impossible for anyone other
than a character strong enough to deal robustly with Mr Lineker – if indeed it
is possible to find such a person.

Philip Lloyd
Yarm, North Yorkshire

Well, Phillip's a bit of a massive bootlicker, isn't he?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well, Phillip's a bit of a massive bootlicker, isn't he?

Is that the latest gender?

[Alf]

Any idea what Dave Jones from west Sussex thinks? :laugh:No, but we know what Anna Soubry from the drinks cabinet thinks.

Why shouldn't we listen to Dave Jones from West Sussex? He may be an enlightening fellow.

[The Slim Reaper]

No, but we know what Anna Soubry from the drinks cabinet thinks.

Why shouldn't we listen to Dave Jones from West Sussex? He may be an enlightening fellow.

I agree, Alfred, that's why I was so keen to find out what he thought.

[arista]

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[Parmy]

Didnt watch tonight.. did he say anything wide?

[Zizu]

Didnt watch tonight.. did he say anything wide?


They had some new bloke … I recorded it and watched the first two minutes

If felt strange and without atmosphere

He did start by saying that he was booked to do the show weeks ago which seemed a bit odd … unless he actually does the show occasionally ( I haven’t watched the show in about 15 years)


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[Nicky91]

National Treasure Lineker, King for exposing the government as nazi's

[Gusto Brunt]

I've slagged Lineker off on Twitter loads of times. :p But in a light-hearted way. :p :D ;)

However, you'd think by now he or his 'team of people' would have blocked me from his Twitter account. :p But I'm still subscribed. :p

Funny thing is, I never subscribed in the first pace. :p

[The Slim Reaper]

https://media.tenor.com/Lbo0xjnBLfAAAAAd/ooo-your-hard.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

Gary Lineker has proved more useful to the Conservative Party than Jeremy
Hunt in the last two weeks. Lineker’s tweeting and suspension ensured every
working-class target voter heard their policy announcement on small boats,
while the Budget was an electoral non-event.

In two focus groups of working-class Conservative targets on Wednesday
night, every single person had heard of the Government’s small boats policy.
The overwhelming majority supported it. Such “cut-through” is extremely
rare, and participants freely admitted this was down to Lineker.

When the Government announced the policy, it knew the greatest political
challenge was getting working-class voters to see the policy at all. Even the
biggest Westminster announcements pass by unnoticed. The Government will
have hoped that vocal opposition from Left-wing figures would propel the
announcement towards the top of the news agenda, but Lineker’s suspension
gave it the attention that Downing Street could only dream of. Polls have
indicated an immediate bounce in Government ratings.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/18/gary-lineker-tories-secret-weapon/

[rusticgal]

Gary Lineker unable to do the FA Cup show cos he has lost his voice....:laugh:


Its all meant to be....:hee:

[joeysteele]

He was struggling badly during the Man City match yesterday.

[Tom4784]

Gary Lineker has proved more useful to the Conservative Party than Jeremy
Hunt in the last two weeks. Lineker’s tweeting and suspension ensured every
working-class target voter heard their policy announcement on small boats,
while the Budget was an electoral non-event.

In two focus groups of working-class Conservative targets on Wednesday
night, every single person had heard of the Government’s small boats policy.
The overwhelming majority supported it. Such “cut-through” is extremely
rare, and participants freely admitted this was down to Lineker.

When the Government announced the policy, it knew the greatest political
challenge was getting working-class voters to see the policy at all. Even the
biggest Westminster announcements pass by unnoticed. The Government will
have hoped that vocal opposition from Left-wing figures would propel the
announcement towards the top of the news agenda, but Lineker’s suspension
gave it the attention that Downing Street could only dream of. Polls have
indicated an immediate bounce in Government ratings.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/18/gary-lineker-tories-secret-weapon/

Tory bootlickers support evil tory policies shocker.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Gary Lineker unable to do the FA Cup show cos he has lost his voice....:laugh:


Its all meant to be....:hee:

:hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The delusion, lack of understanding and just basic self-awareness is truly frightening :umm2:

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