Phillip Schofield's younger brother is a Paedophile/ Phillip 'Fully' leaves ITV

[GiRTh]

And, the 'People are out to get me' that posted on Insta was completely tone deaf by Schofield. He deserves this cuz he's behaving very arrogantly given the circumstances

[Liam-]

Once

Matt goes to the Money Deal
it will come into Every Front Page
Phillip Schofield Arrested.


Justice then done

And if that happens and they find evidence that he abused a minor, then they should lock him up, but until then, he hasn’t been accused of a crime and there’s no evidence that he committed a crime, so unfortunately for you, you can’t get what you want

[Kate!]

And, the 'People are out to get me' that posted on Insta was completely tone deaf by Schofield. He deserves this cuz he's behaving very arrogantly given the circumstances

Agree. He actually thinks he's done nothing wrong. :shrug: Weirdo. Anyone who supports him is very questionable in their own morals. He doesn't deserve an ounce of pity or empathy. Liar. Cheat. Scumbag.

[Liam-]

The pearl clutching is appropriate when a 50 year old married TV star has an affair with someone they have known since they were child. Its ill advised at best.

True, and IMO its unlikely any criminal charges will be filed. There have been no actual crime reported but both Schofield and McGreevy have admitted to lying about the affair. There may be civil charges in the future.

I meant the pearl clutching about people not wanting to rush to label people sex offenders despite there being no actual proof of such, the affair was weird and I’ve said as such, but at the moment, that’s all it can be called.

Civil charges for what? Lying about an affair?

[Kate!]

And if that happens and they find evidence that he abused a minor, then they should lock him up, but until then, he hasn’t been accused of a crime and there’s no evidence that he committed a crime, so unfortunately for you, you can’t get what you want

He's getting his just desserts already. If and when Matthew goes to the press and denounces him as a nonce he'll only feel even sorrier for himself than he does already.

[GiRTh]

Civil charges for what? Lying about an affair?Who knows, McGreevy may claim Schofield got him fired. Doesn't seem to far fetched to me but both have admitted to lying. :shrug:

EDIT: I forgot about the NDA. So, a civil case is quite likely

[Kate!]

He'll probably blame either Holly or Matthew himself for the whole thing. He'll make up another shedful of lies.

[arista]

https://twitter.com/EamonnHolmes/status/1663125996231356416

[Beso]

He'll probably blame either Holly or Matthew himself for the whole thing. He'll make up another shedful of lies.

Paedophiles blame everyone but themselves.

[Zizu]

https://twitter.com/EamonnHolmes/status/1663125996231356416


Holmes is Billy Big Balls now it’s all out in the open but couldn’t muster the courage all those years ago .


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[Kate!]

Holmes is Billy Big Balls now it’s all out in the open but couldn’t muster the courage all those years ago .


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I don't like Eamonn. He's a bully.

[Zizu]

I don't like Eamonn. He's a bully.


He’s a slimeball .. he’s arrogant and obnoxious and I’ve never liked how he is with other women on the show ..don’t know what he’s like in the real world but I have my suspicions…


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[Kate!]

He’s a slimeball .. he’s arrogant and obnoxious and I’ve never liked how he is with other women on the show ..don’t know what he’s like in the real world but I have my suspicions…


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He's another Richard Madeley. Both Eamonn and Richard are condescending twats especially to Ruth and Judy respectively. Horrible creatures.

[Zizu]

He's another Richard Madeley. Both Eamonn and Richard are condescending twats especially to Ruth and Judy respectively. Horrible creatures.


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She’s very understanding ..


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[Kate!]

Ruth is far too good for Eamonn. Slimy rat.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ruth is far too good for Eamonn. Slimy rat.

yep

[Beso]

Can anyone remember when phillip did this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2229808/Phillip-Schofield-ambushes-David-Cameron-Tory-paedophile-list-No-10-condemns-trial-Twitter.html

[Kate!]

Can anyone remember when phillip did this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2229808/Phillip-Schofield-ambushes-David-Cameron-Tory-paedophile-list-No-10-condemns-trial-Twitter.html

:fist: bloody hypocrisy

[user104658]

I didn’t respond to her because she’s on ignore…

There’s no proof he groomed him, just everyone’s warped opinion. If it ever emerges that he did groom him then we’ll discuss it.

Not interested in make believe hyper-theoreticals.

Whether or not he groomed him is actually a matter of opinion and not fact; grooming in and of itself is not a crime.

Can a 50 year old man have a personal relationship with someone from childhood and start a sexual relationship barely into adulthood without there being an element of grooming, either planned or incidental? In my opinion, no.

Am I calling for jail assuming the kid did indeed consent and was "legal" when it went further, also no, because it's as had been repeatedly pointed out "not a crime".

Im confused about the sudden insistence that moral judgement should be aligned with and limited by the letter of the law though. You don't apply that principle on a myriad of other topics. You've cherry picked this one for whatever reason (fairly obvious reasons, realistically).

Again though, "make believe hyper theoretical" or not, I don't think anyone believes for a second that you wouldn't have the polar opposite opinion if it was Pier or any other TV gammon and a young girl. Blood would be pumping. You know that.

And again; you seem to lack the same restraint of judgement you insist on here when it comes to Prince Andrew and his New York adventures. 17 is "legal" in New York. What's the problem? That's not a hypothetical either: that's observed. Both you and Liam have commented plenty on Andrew.

But not Phil. No nono, we must wait and see.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Glen and Liam seem to know a lot about grooming as they claim time and time again there is "no evidence" of grooming

I have asked what do they understand by that term to no avail

so here is the nspcc description

ring any bells ladz?

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/what-is-child-abuse/types-of-abuse/grooming/#what

[Kate!]

Glen and Liam seem to know a lot about grooming as they claim time and time again there is "no evidence" of grooming

I have asked what do they understand by that term to no avail

so here is the nspcc description

ring any bells ladz?

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/what-is-child-abuse/types-of-abuse/grooming/#what

You won't get a response. They can't answer you for spouting Bull****.

[rusticgal]

GBN news with the infamous Dan Wootten been covering the story since 9pm with an interview with Eamonn Holmes on in a few minutes…:hehe:

[Glenn.]

Whether or not he groomed him is actually a matter of opinion and not fact; grooming in and of itself is not a crime.

Can a 50 year old man have a personal relationship with someone from childhood and start a sexual relationship barely into adulthood without there being an element of grooming, either planned or incidental? In my opinion, no.

Am I calling for jail assuming the kid did indeed consent and was "legal" when it went further, also no, because it's as had been repeatedly pointed out "not a crime".

Im confused about the sudden insistence that moral judgement should be aligned with and limited by the letter of the law though. You don't apply that principle on a myriad of other topics. You've cherry picked this one for whatever reason (fairly obvious reasons, realistically).

Again though, "make believe hyper theoretical" or not, I don't think anyone believes for a second that you wouldn't have the polar opposite opinion if it was Pier or any other TV gammon and a young girl. Blood would be pumping. You know that.

And again; you seem to lack the same restraint of judgement you insist on here when it comes to Prince Andrew and his New York adventures. 17 is "legal" in New York. What's the problem? That's not a hypothetical either: that's observed. Both you and Liam have commented plenty on Andrew.

But not Phil. No nono, we must wait and see.

Andrew actually sexually assaulted a woman did he not? As there has been no mention of sexual assault and contrary to everyone’s opinions, Phil had a consensual relationship. Do I agree that he cheated on his wife and lied, No. do I believe he groomed him because he had ulterior motives, also no.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Andrew actually sexually assaulted a woman did he not? As there has been no mention of sexual assault and contrary to everyone’s opinions, Phil had a consensual relationship. Do I agree that he cheated on his wife and lied, No. do I believe he groomed him because he had ulterior motives, also no.

Andrew actually sexually assaulted a woman did he not?

did he?

[Beso]

I didn’t respond to her because she’s on ignore…

There’s no proof he groomed him, just everyone’s warped opinion. If it ever emerges that he did groom him then we’ll discuss it.

Not interested in make believe hyper-theoreticals.

See that video of him in the resteraunt when the guy pops the glitter bomb...That was taken in 2014.

You are watching a groomer in action when you watch that clip.

[Beso]

GBN news with the infamous Dan Wootten been covering the story since 9pm with an interview with Eamonn Holmes on in a few minutes…:hehe:

They should be interviewing the whistleblower......RUTH.

[Glenn.]

Andrew actually sexually assaulted a woman did he not?

did he?

Well there was an allegation which cost the Queen £12m…

An allegation one more than in this case. To compare them is ridiculous

[Beso]

Well there was an allegation which cost the Queen £12m…

An allegation one more than in this case. To compare them is ridiculous

I wonder how much Phillip's NDA cost.

[UserSince2005]

If you don’t think Phil groomed that child
Then you think that child prostituted himself for free meals and a job.

[Beso]

If you don’t think Phil groomed that child
Then you think that child prostituted himself for free meals and a job.

The guy spent years in the groom cupboard fgs.

[Kate!]

Glenn is blind, must be. Or selectively so. Why the Phillip bias him and Liam have?

[user104658]

Andrew actually sexually assaulted a woman did he not? As there has been no mention of sexual assault and contrary to everyone’s opinions, Phil had a consensual relationship. Do I agree that he cheated on his wife and lied, No. do I believe he groomed him because he had ulterior motives, also no.

No, he had at the time seemingly "consensual" sex with a 17 year old girl who had been groomed/sex trafficked into coming to Epstein sex parties.

I guess Andrew must be off the hook now... She can't have been groomed, she was of legal age!

[bots]

People that think what Phillip has done is ok must have direct experience where they are someone they know has done exactly the same thing and therefore think it's normal

[Mystic Mock]

Glenn's stance is that it's OK to plant seeds in young lads so long as you wait until the fruit is ripe before you stick your cock in it. It's legal arista. Legal.

Tbf to Glenn there have been people on the Internet accusing Phillip Schofield of being a Paedophile, which I think Glenn is objecting to, which I can understand.

Personally though I do think that Phillip's relationship with the teen should be thoroughly investigated, just to put it to rest once and for all on if he is an out and out Nonce, or if he has blurred the lines, but isn't technically doing anything illegal.

[arista]

Glenn is blind, must be. Or selectively so. Why the Phillip bias him and Liam have?


Yes Gays protect
other gays.

Problem is though, Kate
Phillip Schofield is a Paedophile

The Clock is Ticking...........

[Mystic Mock]

Can you IMAGINE the reaction if Piers Morgan had met a 10 year old through ITV, slid into her DM's at 15 and started a sexual relationship with her at 16-18?

Please Liam and Glenn, please try to argue that you'd take a "wait and see if he broke the law before judging" approach if that was the situation.

I think it's fairly obvious that you'd be all over it as soon as there was a sniff of inappropriate behaviour.

You both PROVABLY have no problem calling out Prince Andrew for his actions with teenage girls.

Why are you picking up the shields and going on the march for Philip?

Prince Andrew was (and I still think) is friends with Paedophiles, no wonder people are suspicious about him tbf.

I do agree with you about Piers Morgan though, I think nearly everyone would be thinking it's true if someone were to accuse him of being a Nonce, because not that many people like Piers Morgan.

[Kate!]

Tbf to Glenn there have been people on the Internet accusing Phillip Schofield of being a Paedophile, which I think Glenn is objecting to, which I can understand.

Personally though I do think that Phillip's relationship with the teen should be thoroughly investigated, just to put it to rest once and for all on if he is an out and out Nonce, or if he has blurred the lines, but isn't technically doing anything illegal.

He's objecting to those of us who do think Schofield is a groomer and a nonce. Says we've nothing to go on. Why then did both Schofield and Matthew lie their heads off to cover it all up?

[Kate!]

Yes Gays protect
other gays.

Problem is though, Kate
Phillip Schofield is a Paedophile

The Clock is Ticking...........

Yes Arista.

How about we say we want to protect the likes of Matthew McGreevy, a young impressionable kid who was star struck that his idol got him a job without realising he was just doing it for his own ends so to speak.

[Mystic Mock]

And, the 'People are out to get me' that posted on Insta was completely tone deaf by Schofield. He deserves this cuz he's behaving very arrogantly given the circumstances

Phillip Schofield is an arrogant man imo, regardless of if he should be in jail or not.

[Mystic Mock]

He's objecting to those of us who do think Schofield is a groomer and a nonce. Says we've nothing to go on. Why then did both Schofield and Matthew lie their heads off to cover it all up?

I'm also suspicious of Schofield for a few different reasons.

But tbf Glenn is right that it's speculation based on circumstantial evidence rather than out and out proof that he is a Nonce.

And I don't know if he meets the definition of a Groomer, so I'll leave that to the intellectuals.

[Kate!]

I'm also suspicious of Schofield for a few different reasons.

But tbf Glenn is right that it's speculation based on circumstantial evidence rather than out and out proof that he is a Nonce.

And I don't know if he meets the definition of a Groomer, so I'll leave that to the intellectuals.

But how is it circumstantial? Glenn's just playing devil's advocate and harping on it ad nauseum. Will he eat his words when the truth comes out?

The FACTS!

Phillip took an interest in Matthew from the age of 10. Got him a job. People have attested that they were a couple.

Matthew posted on social media that he was hurt, and he'd thought him and Schofield were forever.

[Mystic Mock]

But how is it circumstantial? Glenn's just playing devil's advocate and harping on it ad nauseum. Will he eat his words when the truth comes out?

The FACTS!

Phillip took an interest in Matthew from the age of 10. Got him a job. People have attested that they were a couple.

Matthew posted on social media that he was hurt, and he'd thought him and Schofield were forever.

Legally speaking we know that Phillip knew him when he was 10, but had sex with him when he was 16 if I'm not mistaken.

Basically if the Police were to start investigating this case, they would need to find evidence of Phillip having sexual relations with the guy before he turned 16, because until then all any of us can do is speculate.

Personally I'm suspicious of Phillip, and I do think that it's weird that he had a sexual relationship with someone that he knew when he was a kid, but I know that my opinion isn't evidence to get Phillip arrested or sentenced.

[Josiah.]

Can a mod or James close this thread? This is getting out of hand…

[Kate!]

Noooo Josiah. Why? We need a thread to discuss this.

Is it because we are disagreeing or because you don't like what is being said about Phillip?

[joeysteele]

Legally speaking we know that Phillip knew him when he was 10, but had sex with him when he was 16 if I'm not mistaken.

Basically if the Police were to start investigating this case, they would need to find evidence of Phillip having sexual relations with the guy before he turned 16, because until then all any of us can do is speculate.

Personally I'm suspicious of Phillip, and I do think that it's weird that he had a sexual relationship with someone that he knew when he was a kid, but I know that my opinion isn't evidence to get Phillip arrested or sentenced.

I have no time for Schofield and think he's arrogant in a bad way.
I can't stand him as a presenter nor two faced Holly Willoughby either.
They made a perfect as to BAD team for me.

I do however agree with all you've said in your recent posts on this thread on this issue.

Really the only way to gather the whole truth on this is for it to be legally or properly investigated.
On which again I agree with you.

I'll only add there are very unsavoury elements it seems on the surface as to this relationship.
Which maybe only the younger guy can shed more light on.

[Gusto Brunt]

I think Schofield is right what he says about people like Eamonn Holmes, they are bitter.

Holmes is obviously bitter he was axed from This Morning and he blames Schofield for weilding enough power to get rid of him.:joker:

But Holmes - I've always liked him - but hush, man. You're coming across as vindictive and bitter. Not nice.:hee:

[Zizu]

Holmes is obviously hoping to come out of this looking better than he currently is and that the public will rally round and get him and his wife on the show in place of Holly and Schofield


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[bots]

Holmes has always been an obnoxious git

[arista]

Can a mod or James close this thread? This is getting out of hand…

Hang on,
loads more Front Pages to post
That is like a History Document for a Media Student
Josiah

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/14A32/production/_129903548_metro-nc.png.webp

[user104658]

Have to say, Eamonn Holmes (who is an idiot) is turning the whole issue, which is a quite serious one, into a silly circus centred on himself.

The Alf in me wonders if it's deliberate. Takes the sting out of the whole thing if it descends into this farcical "feud".

[Kate!]

Eamonn is the delusional one if he seriously thinks that his attitude is gonna get him and Ruth the Phil and Holly roles. I can't stand the odious little creep.

[bots]

Eamonn is the delusional one if he seriously thinks that his attitude is gonna get him and Ruth the Phil and Holly roles. I can't stand the odious little creep.

His wife has just been offered a presenter gig on the show which makes it all incredibly strange

[Kazanne]

Eamonn is the delusional one if he seriously thinks that his attitude is gonna get him and Ruth the Phil and Holly roles. I can't stand the odious little creep.

Me neither ,he is a creep,awful man, bet hes loving getting in the spotlight again.

[Liam-]

‘Gays protect other gays’

This site is horrific, completely irrational people that can’t stand people not falling over themselves to agree with them.

Me and Glenn, time and time again, have justified why we have the opinions we do, which we didn’t have to do at all, but we did, yet this forum, as usual, descends into homophobia as a tactic to belittle and demean people that don’t follow the status quo, it’s sickening, funny thing is, Smudgie agreed with what I said, has she been attacked, ridiculed and interrogated? No and it’s clear to see why.

[thesheriff443]

Adult gay men continue to defend the right to be able to shag teenagers.

The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

When do the lies stop so the truth can start?

[user104658]

‘Gays protect other gays’

This site is horrific, completely irrational people that can’t stand people not falling over themselves to agree with them.

Me and Glenn, time and time again, have justified why we have the opinions we do, which we didn’t have to do at all, but we did, yet this forum, as usual, descends into homophobia as a tactic to belittle and demean people that don’t follow the status quo, it’s sickening, funny thing is, Smudgie agreed with what I said, has she been attacked, ridiculed and interrogated? No and it’s clear to see why.

I don't think it's about protecting anyone but I do think there's an impulse -- a very understandable impulse, given the history of false accusations -- to bunker down when it seems like someone who has recently come out as a gay man is being accused of something like this. A worry that it's more fuel to the fire of how homophobic people stereotype gay men (which unfortunately I have to concede, it is).

With that in mind I can appreciate that throwing around words like "nonce" and "paedo" is short-sighted, damaging and flippant and also inaccurate -- the correct term would be ephebophilia (sexual attraction of older adults to adolescents and late teens) and I have in the past been quite hard-line on not misusing the term "paedophile" is it means something very specific (and very grim) so my apologies for that.

HOWEVER all of that said, I stand by my opinion that Philip's actions are not only wrong and predatory but that they do still constitute grooming. Full adults can be groomed, it's not specific to children, and teenagers can 100% be groomed by an adult in a position of perceived influence. There is no question in my mind that this applies here. And I personally believe his pursuit of this boy began when he was an adolescent. There's no excuse (at all) for Philip in his 50's to be exchanging DM's with a 15 year old. It's completely inappropriate and the fact that it later became a sexual relationship is massively concerning.

The stretching and reaching to defend it is not a good look and honestly does more harm than good in terms of the stereotyping, because to most people, seeing men (any man, gay or otherwise) looking at this situation and saying "Meh that's totally fine, the kid was legal so there's no problem" is a massive red flag on that individual.

I'm really sorry to say but yes I do think that being gay men (and worried about people making those links that have always been historically made) is part of why you and Glenn are so defensive of this situation and I actually do understand why you're doing it on those terms.

That's actually me giving you the benefit of the doubt and thinking, why would people who I think are generally fair-minded people despite my disagreements with them be defending this.

If I thought it WASN'T because of this... if I thought you genuinely hand-on-heart believed that there was "nothing wrong" with how Schofield pursued a young person he'd known since adolescence for a sexual relationship "because it's technically legal" ... then I'd actually be being uncharitable. If I believed you actually believed that I'd have you on a watchlist. Maybe it's slightly more understandable as (I think) you're still quite young yourself but if you still believe it when you're 50 I'd have some major questions.

[Glenn.]

I'm also suspicious of Schofield for a few different reasons.

But tbf Glenn is right that it's speculation based on circumstantial evidence rather than out and out proof that he is a Nonce.

And I don't know if he meets the definition of a Groomer, so I'll leave that to the intellectuals.

:clap1:

[Glenn.]

Adult gay men continue to defend the right to be able to shag teenagers.

The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

When do the lies stop so the truth can start?

There is no truth. Just moronic speculation

[thesheriff443]

There is no truth. Just moronic speculation

The truth is an old man shagged a teenager that he knew from a child

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think The fact that Gordon the Gopher has stayed silent in all of this is very telling...

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/DrRanj/status/900647123397599233?s=20

[user104658]

I think The fact that Gordon the Gopher has stayed silent in all of this is very telling...

He tried and we all ignored him. The audience just laughed.

-Qpwo9Cw7lY

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/Ashotinthedark2/status/1663451034365165568?s=20

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/08/29/11/4F7DDAD500000578-6109425-image-m-5_1535536822719.jpg

[Glenn.]

The truth is an old man shagged a teenager that he knew from a child

He had a consensual sexual relationship.

[arista]

I think The fact that Gordon the Gopher has stayed silent in all of this is very telling...


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[UserSince2005]

Why are they all obsessed by MM though? does he have a donkey dick?

[arista]

Why are they all obsessed by MM though? does he have a donkey dick?


No, It's because they first met
when, he was just UNDERAGE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv8I2JWWYAAQGMs?format=jpg&name=small

[Kate!]

He had a consensual sexual relationship.

Yeah you've said. And people are not allowed to disagree? How do you know this "fact" any more than you claim we don't know. You say it was consensual and even it was it still stinks to high heaven of grooming. Literally the minute he turned 16 which in my eyes is still a child they were at it. An in depth investigation is needed.

[user104658]

He had a consensual sexual relationship.

Glenn you've basically outright confirmed that you either don't know what grooming is, or that you don't believe it exists.

[user104658]

Yeah you've said. And people are not allowed to disagree? How do you know this "fact" any more than you claim we don't know. You say it was consensual and even it was it still stinks to high heaven of grooming. Literally the minute he turned 16 which in my eyes is still a child they were at it. An in depth investigation is needed.

The idea appears to be that unless MM himself says he was groomed, he was not groomed and it was all above board and consensual/totally fine.

A complete misunderstanding of what grooming is, and the well understood fact that most victims of grooming don't recognise that they were groomed, at least until MUCH later, and in fact often defend the perpetrator.

Philip Schofield leveraged a position of influence to contact, befriend, sleep with and then ultimately discard a young person, starting when that person was an adolescent. This is grooming. Grooming is not rape or sexual assault. Grooming is grooming. Glenn keeps hammering on about consent, outlining that he has no idea what he's defending... gaining consent is the whole point and aim of grooming. Pointing out that there was consent is only saying "it was successful grooming, congrats Philip."

[Kate!]

The idea appears to be that unless MM himself says he was groomed, he was not groomed and it was all above board and consensual/totally fine.

A complete misunderstanding of what grooming is, and the well understood fact that most victims of grooming don't recognise that they were groomed, at least until MUCH later, and in fact often defend the perpetrator.

Philip Schofield leveraged a position of influence to contact, befriend, sleep with and then ultimately discard a young person, starting when that person was an adolescent. This is grooming. Grooming is not rape or sexual assault. Grooming is grooming. Glenn keeps hammering on about consent, outlining that he has no idea what he's defending... gaining consent is the whole point and aim of grooming. Pointing out that there was consent is only saying "it was successful grooming, congrats Philip."

Great Post.

[Swan]

He had a consensual sexual relationship.

Glenn people agree with that. But do you not see it as all very seedy and quite vile, morally anyway?

Historically, look at men in their 50s/60s who go for teen girls, even then they're usually 18 or over, and as a society we tend to think that's creepy, and strange, and damn right pathetic on the guy's part.

It's nothing to do with Schofield's sexuality, any popular celeb, A lister (i know he's not known elsewhere in the world really, but here he's right up there) would receive the same kind of backlash, gay, straight, bi, whatever.

Also, i would be probably be more sympathetic had say Scholfied met this kid in a club or whatever, when he was of legal age, and had a fling with him. But it's the fact met this boy when he was 10, and befriended him as a young teen that's rubbing people the wrong way, do you not see that? He even got the kid a job.

The problem isn't so much that he had sex with a 16 year old, as creepy as that is given his age, it's all the stuff leading up to it that people find disgusting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Glenn people agree with that. But do you not see it as all very seedy and quite vile, morally anyway?

Historically, look at men in their 50s/60s who go for teen girls, even then they're usually 18 or over, and as a society we tend to think that's creepy, and strange, and damn right pathetic on the guy's part.

It's nothing to do with Schofield's sexuality, any popular celeb, A lister (i know he's not known elsewhere in the world really, but here he's right up there) would receive the same kind of backlash, gay, straight, bi, whatever.

Also, i would be probably be more sympathetic had say Scholfied met this kid in a club or whatever, when he was of legal age, and had a fling with him. But it's the fact met this boy when he was 10, and befriended him as a young teen that's rubbing people the wrong way, do you not see that? He even got the kid a job.

The problem isn't so much that he had sex with a 16 year old, as creepy as that is given his age, it's all the stuff leading up to it that people find disgusting.

and dont forget he was married

meanwhile presenting on national tv about a raft of serious subjects including child abuse, infidelity, rape etc

[Glenn.]

Glenn people agree with that. But do you not see it as all very seedy and quite vile, morally anyway?

Historically, look at men in their 50s/60s who go for teen girls, even then they're usually 18 or over, and as a society we tend to think that's creepy, and strange, and damn right pathetic on the guy's part.

It's nothing to do with Schofield's sexuality, any popular celeb, A lister (i know he's not known elsewhere in the world really, but here he's right up there) would receive the same kind of backlash, gay, straight, bi, whatever.

Also, i would be probably be more sympathetic had say Scholfied met this kid in a club or whatever, when he was of legal age, and had a fling with him. But it's the fact met this boy when he was 10, and befriended him as a young teen that's rubbing people the wrong way, do you not see that? He even got the kid a job.

The problem isn't so much that he had sex with a 16 year old, as creepy as that is given his age, it's all the stuff leading up to it that people find disgusting.

People are just assuming he groomed him lmao. Until the bloke comes out and says, yes he groomed me I’m going to call it what it is. Do I agree with the affair? No. I’m not going to call him a peadophile based on what might have happened. There’s been no mention of abuse of any kind.

[Kate!]

People are just assuming he groomed him lmao. Until the bloke comes out and says, yes he groomed me I’m going to call it what it is. Do I agree with the affair? No. I’m not going to call him a peadophile based on what might have happened. There’s been no mention of abuse of any kind.

Jesus its like talking to a brick wall :fist:

How about Matthew is in denial that he was groomed. That's one perspective. It's blatantly obvious. The age gap is extremely disturbing just on its own. Ffs.

[user104658]

People are just assuming he groomed him lmao. Until the bloke comes out and says, yes he groomed me I’m going to call it what it is. Do I agree with the affair? No. I’m not going to call him a peadophile based on what might have happened. There’s been no mention of abuse of any kind.

The idea appears to be that unless MM himself says he was groomed, he was not groomed and it was all above board and consensual/totally fine.

A complete misunderstanding of what grooming is, and the well understood fact that most victims of grooming don't recognise that they were groomed, at least until MUCH later, and in fact often defend the perpetrator.

.

(can only assume I'm on ignore)

[Swan]

People are just assuming he groomed him lmao. Until the bloke comes out and says, yes he groomed me I’m going to call it what it is. Do I agree with the affair? No. I’m not going to call him a peadophile based on what might have happened. There’s been no mention of abuse of any kind.

Even i defended him somewhat early on, saying that if it's legal, it's legal so just let him get on with it. But i didn't know the details of the story. When you hear how he met him at such a young age, and took him under his wing, it's very fair for people to question his intentions giving he had sex with the boy the moment he legally could.

Technically you're right, as far as we know anyway, but morally it stinks. And that's what people are questioning.

[Vanessa]

Him and his friend definitely need to be investigated.
Their pictures with him as a little kid is very disturbing by itself.
15 is underage and it's not legal here in the UK..

[user104658]

For the record I don't think he broke the law but -- as it the case the vast majority of the time -- that's completely irrelevant to me. The link between "the law" and "right and wrong" is an extremely loose one for me, on the vast majority of topics.

[Kate!]

Even i defended him somewhat early on, saying that if it's legal, it's legal so just let him get on with it. But i didn't know the details of the story. When you hear how he met him at such a young age, and took him under his wing, it's very fair for people to question his intentions giving he had sex with the boy the moment he legally could.

Technically you're right, as far as we know anyway, but morally it stinks.And that's what people are questioning.

Amen.

[Oliver_W]

People are just assuming he groomed him lmao. Until the bloke comes out and says, yes he groomed me I’m going to call it what it is. Do I agree with the affair? No. I’m not going to call him a peadophile based on what might have happened. There’s been no mention of abuse of any kind.

Someone can be a groomer without being a paedophile....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jeremy vine is talking about this now on radio 2

[Liam-]

It’s starting to seem like some people almost want this guy to have been abused so they can have something to hold over a person they don’t like

[Crimson Dynamo]

First call is an apologist :facepalm: "its a witch hunt"

"have we not learned from Caroline Flack"

straight out of the "it was the meeja that killed our Diana" bogus playbook

[Kate!]

It’s starting to seem like some people almost want this guy to have been abused so they can have something to hold over a person they don’t like

SMH. Let's put the boot on the other foot. It's feeling like you don't want him to be guilty of anything cos you like him. Be it morally or criminally.

[Swan]

It’s starting to seem like some people almost want this guy to have been abused so they can have something to hold over a person they don’t like

What about people who are pretty much indifferent to him? I would say that was my stance before all this came out. He was just another overly exposed celeb to me before all this, on the other half of ITV shows Ant and Dec weren't on. And the bloke who did the we buy any car ads.

Not everyone has this vendetta against the bloke. Can you honestly not see why people are questioning his relationship with this boy?

[Kate!]

What about people who are pretty much indifferent to him? I would say that was my stance before all this came out. He was just another overly exposed celeb to me before all this, on the other half of ITV shows Ant and Dec weren't on. And the bloke who did the we buy any car ads.

Not everyone has this vendetta against the bloke. Can you honestly not see why people are questioning his relationship with this boy?

I used to really like Phillip actually UNTIL he came out and treated his wife and kids so shabbily. Now I despise him.

[user104658]

It’s starting to seem like some people almost want this guy to have been abused so they can have something to hold over a person they don’t like

I actually quite liked The Silver Fox, as it happens, and unlike others it seems I thought him and Holly had a great presenter dynamic on This Morning.

Not really the point I suppose. Other than that as a clearly highly charismatic person, it makes it even more likely that he's been able to leverage those personality traits for not-so-great goals as well as professionally.

[bots]

Someone in complete denial cannot be reasoned with

[Zizu]

I actually quite liked The Silver Fox, as it happens, and unlike others it seems I thought him and Holly had a great presenter dynamic on This Morning.

Not really the point I suppose. Other than that as a clearly highly charismatic person, it makes it even more likely that he's been able to leverage those personality traits for not-so-great goals as well as professionally.


I’ve never seen Schofield as charismatic to be honest .. just a very polished, professional tv personality.


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[bots]

Anyone the remembers gordon the goffer can't take Phil seriously

[user104658]

I’ve never seen Schofield as charismatic to be honest .. just a very polished, professional tv personality.


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Charisma doesn't necessarily mean you like someone, just that you can see that they have personality factors that attract people.

Trump is charismatic, for example. Or Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, Piers Morgan etc.

Sometimes the charisma of awful people is what makes them so damaging.

[Zizu]

Charisma doesn't necessarily mean you like someone, just that you can see that they have personality factors that attract people.

Trump is charismatic, for example. Or Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, Piers Morgan etc.

Sometimes the charisma of awful people is what makes them so damaging.


I know what charismatic means :)

I just don’t think he has any charisma ..

He was very powerful and influential and that’s why he had people dancing to his tune … same applies to Trump imho


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[Swan]

On a side note, i think it's a shame Peterson is lumped in with those other knobs. If you listen to him, on the whole he makes sense, and is a good person. The others are just selfish egomaniacs. Peterson has never come across that way imo.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think Schofield popularity is that day-time women see him as a non-threatening gay man (even before he "came out") and the type they would like to be pals with and go shopping with

A Dale Winton/ Mulhearn type of thing.

[user104658]

On a side note, i think it's a shame Peterson is lumped in with those other knobs. If you listen to him, on the whole he makes sense, and is a good person. The others are just selfish egomaniacs. Peterson has never come across that way imo.

He had a fairly long phase where he went totally off the rails into religiosity and thinly veiled outright misogyny. He can and has "done better" - I suspect that the fame/infamy got to him at some point. I would I suppose agree that his motivations rarely seem selfish and where he goes off-piste it's for other reasons.

[Swan]

He had a fairly long phase where he went totally off the rails into religiosity and thinly veiled outright misogyny. He can and has "done better" - I suspect that the fame/infamy got to him at some point. I would I suppose agree that his motivations rarely seem selfish and where he goes off-piste it's for other reasons.

People make out he's a danger to women, i've never seen that from him. Trump and Tate on the other hand, they genuinely are a danger to women. Morgan probably isn't a danger to women, but he's a complete slimeball and only out for himself.

[user104658]

I know what charismatic means :)

I just don’t think he has any charisma ..

He was very powerful and influential and that’s why he had people dancing to his tune … same applies to Trump imho


Power and influence to get into a position maybe, but neither have power or influence over the general public beyond their charisma (Philip's brand just wasn't your cup of tea, I would say). Trump and Phil make good examples really of how polar opposite charisma can be and how it caters to different people - e.g. Philips has absolutely evaporated because of what's come out about him. It's contrary to his image and so his whole persona implodes.

Trump on the other hand is essentially a villain who has a massive support base that loves him even knowing that. They see his indiscretions AS charismatic. He would lose support if he suddenly came out being "woke" and apologising for all of his misdeeds.

Interesting how it works, really. The biggest reason that Philip's career can't survive this in any form is precisely because of the platform he's built that career on. Other high-profile people could actually walk away from this sort of thing relatively unscathed.

[bots]

It's interesting Trump being mentioned because DeSantis is attacking Trump for being supportive of abortion and essentially woke which kind of proves your point

[user104658]

People make out he's a danger to women, i've never seen that from him. Trump and Tate on the other hand, they genuinely are a danger to women. Morgan probably isn't a danger to women, but he's a complete slimeball and only out for himself.

Tate's rhetoric is foundationally based in Peterson-style (if not directly Petersonian) psychology/social philosophy though. You'll find a lot of his thinking at the core of a tonne of reddit/incel/redpiller stuff. Did he intend that? Probably not, but people have taken his thinking and run with it to dangerous conclusions, and he's never attempted to correct them.

That he can present it in intelligent, interesting and compelling ways is actually what makes him so dangerous IMO. Only teenagers and gym bros are listening to someone like Tate ... Peterson has more influence than that.

I agree on Morgan, he's just a populist who knows his crowd.

[hijaxers]

The super injunction runs out end of June , so it looks like we are going to drown daily in this story until it fully blows ~ i'm sick of hearing about it all.

[user104658]

It's interesting Trump being mentioned because DeSantis is attacking Trump for being supportive of abortion and essentially woke which kind of proves your point

Trump is supportive of abortion? Hmmm

"I'll tell you... do you know how many kids I would have if it wasn't for abortion? Literally hundreds. Hundreds of children all across America and Russia."

[Oliver_W]

He had a fairly long phase where he went totally off the rails into religiosity and thinly veiled outright misogyny. He can and has "done better" - I suspect that the fame/infamy got to him at some point. I would I suppose agree that his motivations rarely seem selfish and where he goes off-piste it's for other reasons.

People make out he's a danger to women, i've never seen that from him. Trump and Tate on the other hand, they genuinely are a danger to women. Morgan probably isn't a danger to women, but he's a complete slimeball and only out for himself.
A lot of his self-help advice is pretty solid, and also pretty universal and not hugely original. He just packages it in a way that resonates well with some people, particularly young men - which is fine, someone's gotta whip the NEET neckbeards into shape :joker:

Charisa aside, I think his interview with Cathy Newman did him the world of good. I usually like her, but her conduct in that interview made her look ... frankly a bit stupid, and that alongside Peterson's intelligence, both apparent aspects amplified each other.

As for his "misogyny" ? I've not heard or read anything from or about him in absolutely ages, so I might be misremembering - I think his attitude is roughly "based on current and past happiness surveys, and based on men and women's biological and neurological makeup, it seems they're happier when being a homemaker", which Cathy Newman might interept as "women should stay in the kitchen "

[Niamh.]

A lot of his self-help advice is pretty solid, and also pretty universal and not hugely original. He just packages it in a way that resonates well with some people, particularly young men - which is fine, someone's gotta whip the NEET neckbeards into shape :joker:

Charisa aside, I think his interview with Cathy Newman did him the world of good. I usually like her, but her conduct in that interview made her look ... frankly a bit stupid, and that alongside Peterson's intelligence, both apparent aspects amplified each other.

As for his "misogyny" ? I've not heard or read anything from or about him in absolutely ages, so I might be misremembering - I think his attitude is roughly "based on current and past happiness surveys, and based on men and women's biological and neurological makeup, it seems they're happier when being a homemaker", which Cathy Newman might interept as "women should stay in the kitchen "

No he said something like the cure for aggressive men is marriage or something pretty vile like that......

[Niamh.]

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/may/23/jordan-peterson-public-intellectual-isnt-clever-violent-men-monogamy

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[bots]

No grooming went on LT :fist:

[Crimson Dynamo]

EXCLUSIVE: Eyewitness REVEALS ALL On Phillip Schofield’s DATE with ANOTHER young lad

https://www.politicalite.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Screenshot-2020-02-09-at-13.07.42.png

PHILLIP Schofield was spotted dining in a restaurant with an alleged ‘toyboy
lover’ that he is said to to have had an affair with behind the back of Mathew
McGreevy back in March 2019, Politicalite can exclusively reveal.

https://www.politicalite.com/exclusive/exclusive-eyewitness-reveals-all-on-phillip-schofields-cosy-date-with-alleged-toyboy-lover/

[arista]

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Yes long way back

[UserSince2005]

EXCLUSIVE: Eyewitness REVEALS ALL On Phillip Schofield’s DATE with ANOTHER young lad

https://www.politicalite.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Screenshot-2020-02-09-at-13.07.42.png

PHILLIP Schofield was spotted dining in a restaurant with an alleged ‘toyboy
lover’ that he is said to to have had an affair with behind the back of Mathew
McGreevy back in March 2019, Politicalite can exclusively reveal.

https://www.politicalite.com/exclusive/exclusive-eyewitness-reveals-all-on-phillip-schofields-cosy-date-with-alleged-toyboy-lover/

Now that one is cute

[user104658]

No he said something like the cure for aggressive men is marriage or something pretty vile like that......

There's a lot more than that too, if you really listen to what he's saying. He hides behind "the data" or at least his interpretation of the data, ignores other contributing factors if they don't fit his narrative, and is when it comes down to it an apologist for male violence and a rhetorician of white male victimhood - that part is a huge part of his popularity, he offers vindication to a demographic of people who are frustrated with their lives.

Ultimately though he gives away his thoughts in his interpretations of the data. He's a male-supremacist when it comes right down to it. He dresses it up as science but he's not an unbiased raw data analyst at heart ... he's a social psychologist seeking to validate a hypothesis he already holds.

[Crimson Dynamo]

and dont forget gay community - Phil only "came out" to pay off The Sun newspaper


MM was mad about being let go by the show and probably dumped by Schofield. He
went to The Sun to sell his story. The Sun used it as leverage with Phil. So he comes out
as gay on his show and The Sun gets the exclusive and kills the MM story.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/Suffragent_/status/1663286298721894401?s=20

[Cherie]

and dont forget gay community - Phil only "came out" to pay off The Sun newspaper


MM was mad about being let go by the show and probably dumped by Schofield. He
went to The Sun to sell his story. The Sun used it as leverage with Phil. So he comes out
as gay on his show and The Sun gets the exclusive and kills the MM story.

That was pretty much how it played out at the time

[Swan]

There's a lot more than that too, if you really listen to what he's saying. He hides behind "the data" or at least his interpretation of the data, ignores other contributing factors if they don't fit his narrative, and is when it comes down to it an apologist for male violence and a rhetorician of white male victimhood - that part is a huge part of his popularity, he offers vindication to a demographic of people who are frustrated with their lives.

Ultimately though he gives away his thoughts in his interpretations of the data. He's a male-supremacist when it comes right down to it. He dresses it up as science but he's not an unbiased raw data analyst at heart ... he's a social psychologist seeking to validate a hypothesis he already holds.

His argument is complex, he's a complex guy. I just don't believe his views are bred from hate towards women. Unlike Tate, who sees women as servants and/or commodities.

There is nothing wrong in telling young men to be confident within themselves. It's kinda like you're suggesting Peterson's angle is the same as Tate's, that their is approach is different (which it is) but ultimately their goal is the same. I certainly disagree with that. Tate uses young men for profit, and ego. Peterson comes across like he genuinely cares.

[Oliver_W]

No he said something like the cure for aggressive men is marriage or something pretty vile like that......

Yikes, that's something that passed me by D:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Once the advertisers pull out (like Arnold Clark have done) that will be the end

[Crimson Dynamo]

Id imagine crisis meetings at M & S over Holly right now

[thesheriff443]

The video showing Phil in a restaurant with mm on youtube

Someone commented, Phil ordering of the kids menu again

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/30/13/71565827-0-image-m-70_1685451435004.jpg

[Gusto Brunt]

On Talk TV, Kevin O'Sullivan almost coming to orgasm with utter excitement talking about how much Phil lied.

Bizarre how much is turning journalists on.

[user104658]

His argument is complex, he's a complex guy. I just don't believe his views are bred from hate towards women. Unlike Tate, who sees women as servants and/or commodities.

There is nothing wrong in telling young men to be confident within themselves. It's kinda like you're suggesting Peterson's angle is the same as Tate's, that their is approach is different (which it is) but ultimately their goal is the same. I certainly disagree with that. Tate uses young men for profit, and ego. Peterson comes across like he genuinely cares.

Tate's goal is to make money and feel powerful, literally nothing else, he doesn't care about women but he doesn't care about the boys and young men he's indoctrinating either (his rhetoric does absolutely nothing for them in the long run but make them jaded and bitter).

Peterson I think probably does genuinely care and does genuinely believe the things he's saying but the outcome by and large is the same; he doesn't help young men, he leaves them feeling frustrated and bitter (and then your Tates come along and offer an outlet for that frustration).

I also don't think he's a conscious misogynist but his hyper-focus on "what is" (pointing out the results of studies) with very little interest in "why that is" (the social structures and imbedded patriarchy that make the results what they are) ... and that suggests he's not really interested. He's clearly intelligent enough to look into and understand it ... he just doesn't.

His end-game invariably is getting weepy about "how tough things are for men" and "how hard we have it really" and it doesn't take much scraping at his personal life to see that it's mainly self-vindication.

All of that aside - he has a deeply troubling hardline religious side that he has a habit of leaning into, especially at live events. Never trust a street preacher, even one with a psychology masters. Probably especially.

[Beso]

Someone can be a groomer without being a paedophile....

Paedophiles dont just want to abuse children, they are devious, intelligent bastards with no shame. The thrill of the grooming, the leering at the child as it grows up can be enough to see them through until they get their end game. Then, like this case. Once they've reached the end game, they toss the game aside like it meant nothing, just to feel more power.

[user104658]

On Talk TV, Kevin O'Sullivan almost coming to orgasm with utter excitement talking about how much Phil lied.

Bizarre how much is turning journalists on.

Wootton's been making cummies in his boxers for days.

[user104658]

Paedophiles dont just want to abuse children, they are devious, intelligent bastards with no shame. The thrill of the grooming, the leering at the child as it grows up can be enough to see them through until they get their end game. Then, like this case. Once they've reached the end game, they toss the game aside like it meant nothing, just to feel more power.

Indeed Philip seems to have lost interest in his "friendship and mentorship" of MM very rapidly as he approached 20. Which is another grooming warning light.

[Crimson Dynamo]

From Schofields book:

P64-65 Saville

Requested to see Saville in recording studio, internal memo. Saville allowed him
to introduce a record on BBC1. Buzzing. Saville advised ‘be nice to everyone on
the way up, you will need them on the way down’.

Schofe and Saville met many times over the years. Sad when he died- tweeted
an obituary- that he has since searched hours for, to delete it.

‘ in any of the brief times I had contact with him, there was not one hint of who
he really was, from either him or anyone I met. I just wish that, back then,
victims had been believed or had felt that they have the support to speak up
against this monster, who was hiding in plain site…….’

:skull:

[Kate!]

Indeed Philip seems to have lost interest in his "friendship and mentorship" of MM very rapidly as he approached 20. Which is another grooming warning light.

Certainly and MM referenced the 'dumping' on social media when he wrote that he was 'hurt' and that he'd 'thought him and Schofe were forever '.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/30/17/71575811-0-image-a-3_1685465609908.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12140377/Phillip-Schofields-lover-received-financial-settlement-ITV-shamed-stars-affair-ended.html

[Kate!]

I see they've begun blanking out his face in pics. Bit late for that really.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Oliver_W]

I see they've begun blanking out his face in pics. Bit late for that really.

Maybe they're photos from when he was a minor?

[bots]

The Prince's Trust has dropped Phillip Schofield as an ambassador after he admitted he had an affair with a young male colleague and lied to cover it up.

The charity, founded by the King, said it was "no longer appropriate" for it to work with the presenter.

Schofield, 61, last Friday issued a statement about the relationship and announced he was leaving ITV.

It came a week after he quit his role at ITV's This Morning after reports of a rift with co-star Holly Willoughby.

In a statement, Schofield apologised for lying repeatedly to hide the relationship with the male employee, calling it "unwise but not illegal".

ITV said it was "deeply disappointed by the admissions of deceit" made by Schofield and confirmed it had cut all ties with the host.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65761305

[Crimson Dynamo]

F_ngxwKlFDk

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Schofield tomorrow

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[UserSince2005]

Lol does Alison not realise we can see her likes ahaha

[user104658]

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:skull:

Real or feke?

[bots]

looks fake to me, or the woman just likes everything that mentions the show :hehe:

[UserSince2005]

It’s real I checked her twitter lol. I mean just stay quiet and you get the job hun.

[Mystic Mock]

I have no time for Schofield and think he's arrogant in a bad way.
I can't stand him as a presenter nor two faced Holly Willoughby either.
They made a perfect as to BAD team for me.

I do however agree with all you've said in your recent posts on this thread on this issue.

Really the only way to gather the whole truth on this is for it to be legally or properly investigated.
On which again I agree with you.

I'll only add there are very unsavoury elements it seems on the surface as to this relationship.
Which maybe only the younger guy can shed more light on.

I'm not a huge fan of Phillip either Joey, and I do agree with you that this relationship isn't really something that I personally approve of due to how sketchy it appears to be from my personal morals.

Like you've said it'll be interesting to see what the younger guy has to say about all of it.

[Mystic Mock]

Adult gay men continue to defend the right to be able to shag teenagers.

The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

When do the lies stop so the truth can start?

Tbf Paedophilia and defending Paedophilia is not just from the gay community.

I wish it was just one community pushing for Paedophilia, because at least it would then be easier to identify who the Paedophiles are.

[arista]

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[Kate!]

Gwan Holly. Ride out the storm girl.

#team Holly

[Zizu]

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She should stay away for a few months, even tell the fans of the show she’s having some time off and will be back in July or August or whatever


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[Mystic Mock]

Could Eamonn be anymore desperate?:joker:

[LaLaLand]

It's hard to gauge Eamonn or his credibility atm because to me he's coming across as incredibly bitter towards Phil and Holly imo.

Everything he's saying could be completely true but it's overshadowed by what feels like jealousy.

I'll reserve judgement but the agency/management/ITV dropping Phil and now The Prince's Trust too, it's all very sus...

[bots]

I know why she is coming back on Monday, but I would say it will harm her career more in the long run if she comes back before the media calms down

[UserSince2005]

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Don’t make me SICK!

[bots]

i'm getting very bored of the whole thing now

[Zizu]

i'm getting very bored of the whole thing now


Yeah same here ..

I’d let the authorities take it from here


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[Gusto Brunt]

I was very shocked to hear Schofield's lover was allegedly paid £300.000 as a golden handshake when he left his job..

That is a scandal. Obviously 'hush' money.

[arista]

I was very shocked to hear Schofield's lover was allegedly paid £300.000 as a golden handshake when he left his job..

That is a scandal. Obviously 'hush' money.


Yes very much so.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/31/01/71590817-0-image-m-1_1685493188729.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12141457/How-did-3-5m-ITV-boss-Dame-Carolyn-McCall-know-Phillip-Schofield-scandal.html

[user104658]

Was it ITV that paid the £300k directly? There are going to be some major questions to answer if so ... Honestly I reckon the Phil situation is a "tip of the iceberg" moment. What else is going on at ITV HQ?

[bots]

was it a legit payment. Did it go through the books, did he pay tax. A pay off of 300k for a tea boy is pretty impressive :laugh:

There is no way it is anything but dodgy

[Cherie]

was it a legit payment. Did it go through the books, did he pay tax. A pay off of 300k for a tea boy is pretty impressive :laugh:

There is no way it is anything but dodgy

Are we still saying nothing to see here, why the need to pay him off specifically? and if Eamonn Holmes is to believed the tea boy arrived by Taxi every Friday from Phils home?

[Oliver_W]

As long as he consented to the payoff and had a bank account in his own name!!

[arista]

ITV has now brought in a External Barrister
to look at Phillip's contract.


The CEO of ITV
has confirmed the Lad started aged 19.

After a few years he moved as a runner
to work at loose women,
after a argument with Phillip.

Young Matt (The lad that had a affair with Older Phillip)
has stated he does not want to give any interviews.

[Cherie]

As long as he consented to the payoff and had a bank account in his own name!!

its probably why he hasn't sold his story

[bots]

ITV has launched an externally led review to "establish the facts" about its handling of a relationship between Phillip Schofield and his colleague.

The review was confirmed by chief executive Dame Carolyn McCall in a letter seen by the PA news agency.

The former This Morning presenter left the network last week after he admitted lying about the affair.

ITV previously said it had investigated in 2020, but that both parties denied the relationship.

The network has now instructed a barrister to carry out an external review to establish the facts.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65769939

--------------------------------------------------

That's basically ITV saying "oh ****"

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hope they lose a lot of ad revenue

[arista]

Hope they lose a lot of ad revenue


So Far with Dermot and the Tubby Lady
they are doing fine

[UserSince2005]

Lucky bastard, I’d have ****ed the old man for £300

[Swan]

4LZ7vT171Cw
She certainly doesn't hold back

[rusticgal]

4LZ7vT171Cw
She certainly doesn't hold back


Hmmm…not a fan of Kerry however ITV producers should never have let her go on air in her condition… Philip didn’t have much choice in highlighting her ‘slurring’ on the show but it’s not right that she should be emphasising the fact that ITV don’t care about women when there is a young man involved in this story of relevance.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-052a3c7d-b6fa-41b8-8369-73fd3ae24eda.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8d5665c2-bef9-4305-9659-d8425c8ea40e.png

[Swan]

Why have the media started blurring his face now? Bit too little too late for that now surly?!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wanna see Philth give the death stare?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/18123012/this-morning-phillip-schofield-alice-beer-birthday/

[Oliver_W]

Real life footage from the This Morning interview with Katona:

ZL-pMGvhi6I

[Kazanne]

4LZ7vT171Cw
She certainly doesn't hold back

Well any excuse for her to get in the public eye again,she cant blame him for making her feel suicidle,shes always been strange and this to me is jumping on the bandwagon for a bit more fame.

[arista]

Wanna see Philth give the death stare?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/18123012/this-morning-phillip-schofield-alice-beer-birthday/


No, I am glad he is SACKED from ITV

[joeysteele]

Really now the way this is going it seems.

Any investigation looking into it, needs to be able to get the views of the said much younger man.
How can any solid conclusions even be considered without that.

If the guy has been given a payment for silence or a pay off.
It now needs to be likely made clear as to that.
Plus if there's any gagging element then that needs removing too for his piece to be said.

Otherwise, the speculation will go on and on.
Willoughby is going to be questioned and hounded on the issue of what she knew or even suspected for as long as she remains on the programme.

Of course her now standing down too could well be seen as suspicious too.
Had she actually gone before Schofield, she'd have likely come out better on this now scandal really.

I agree with Cherie and the others now saying, is it really still being said that there's nothing to see here.
More and more it looks like there is and possibly more unsavoury to come too.

What a mess just from presenters and producers of a kind of television magazine show.
Unbelievable.

[Niamh.]

Well any excuse for her to get in the public eye again,she cant blame him for making her feel suicidle,shes always been strange and this to me is jumping on the bandwagon for a bit more fame.

tbf to her she didn't blame Philip for that, she was blaming lack of after care by ITV

[Swan]

tbf to her she didn't blame Philip for that, she was blaming lack of after care by ITV

Yeah the only thing she said against Philip was that he pretty much groomed the boy. Which, on the face of it, does look likely (not saying that's the case, time will tell i spose). You can tell the passing of Caroline Flack, how ITV threw her under the bus really upset Kerry.

She really don't speak much about Philip at all, as Niamh said, it was mainly about ITV as a whole, and how toxic it's become.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/01/12/71649777-0-image-a-92_1685618296760.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12147611/ITV-call-barrister-probe-Phillip-Schofield-affair-Holly-Willoughby-set-quizzed.html

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwk-FfVXoAAQXcA?format=jpg&name=small


Him and Matt his boyfriend

[arista]

Jane McDonald will now Replace Phillip
in the Soap Awards

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65775239

She certainly has good experience in Soaps.

[arista]

Weds 14th June 10AM Live
Parliament Committee
have asked ITV CEO
to attend.


How nice for that Mature Lady

[Crimson Dynamo]

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https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/e54/6cc/b8edcfd6dd79720249b61853c178e8dca5-surejan.rhorizontal.w700.jpg

[bots]

is Phil really going to say to the Sun .... It's a fair cop, you got me ... I groom kids for sex

[thesheriff443]

We became mates
Then one day something happened
I tripped and my cock fell in his bum hole

I knew it shouldn’t of happened

[arista]

We became mates
Then one day something happened
I tripped and my cock fell in his bum hole

I knew it shouldn’t of happened


So Crude/

[arista]

BBC will show his interview
on BBCnewsHD Tonight.


The Sun interview
has a Lady asking the Questions.


I hope LT can add
the You Tube link

[LaLaLand]

Why's he vaping in the interviews!? What's that all about? Bit odd?

[arista]

Why's he vaping in the interviews!? What's that all about? Bit odd?


His Nerves


Also, I assume only the Sun Video
as that is Not on TV

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/B622/production/_129962664_sun-nc.png.webp

[arista]

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1664363986974920706

[arista]

BBC1 AM

Started with a blinding Clip

He Asked Amol,
Do you Want Me To Die?


Do not push me, Phil. I say.

[bots]

he has been manipulating people for 20+ years for his own gain, and these interviews are him trying to do exactly the same again

[arista]

he has been manipulating people for 20+ years for his own gain, and these interviews are him trying to do exactly the same again


Do you want him Dead?

[bots]

Do you want him Dead?

no of course not, but it's all poor him. He is manipulating people .... i don't know how you cannot see that Arista

[arista]

no of course not, but it's all poor him. He is manipulating people .... i don't know how you cannot see that Arista


No, I can see that



It's just
Him Pushing that on the BBC Fella

[Gusto Brunt]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/B622/production/_129962664_sun-nc.png.webp

Watched part of his interview on Talk TV and I could tell Schofield was lying. I could see it in his eyes. He tried to pause and 'think', as if he was speaking truthfully, but he was lying. I could tell he was lying.

[thesheriff443]

Watched part of his interview on Talk TV and I could tell Schofield was lying. I could see it in his eyes. He tried to pause and 'think', as if he was speaking truthfully, but he was lying. I could tell he was lying.

Of course he was lying, he was trying to show remorse but he didn’t have any.

It was to the point I thought he was going to burst out laughing

[thesheriff443]

Saying do you want me dead is emotional blackmail

[bots]

What is the most common defence of a rapist in court? It was consensual, all perfectly legal. I'm not saying Phil is a rapist, but he knows he used his power and position to manipulate and groom

[joeysteele]

The point really is anything he is saying is only a one sided take from him.

What's needed to know is, to even try to clear this up.
Is the other guy in the mix.
He knows the age he was, he knows the full extent of communication with Schofield.
He knows what and where all took place and what too was his take on the relationship.

Furthermore why has nothing been heard from him.
Why?
Is it because Schofield's account is right.
Or is he unable to comment because of anything he's had to sign or been paid not to reveal.

If that's so, then why was it necessary to ensure his silence, what would have been necessary to hide, and STILL be hiding?
Since nothings been heard from him.

So it's all very well for Schofield to give a full media and public interview.
However NOT the other person who Schofield has apologised to.
Apologising for WHAT?

As can be the case, when one person in a concerning issue gives an interview, more questions are created.

His career he says is over.
IF there is nothing unsavoury and all was in order legally.
Then why should his career be over?

If the silence from the other guy continues.
How can Schofield be completely believed since he's admitted to years and years of continual lies and deceit to his wife, children, family, colleagues and the viewing public too while employed on TV.

We have Schofield's own account of this concerning issue.
That's all his interview has done..
No real in depth questions have been concusively either properly addressed or answered.

I do think however, Schofield needs someone close to be in close contact just to make sure he remains safe.
He clearly is broken by this which is very sad.
He'll need very strong support it seems.

I'm still left wondering just what the other younger guy is thinking and how he is feeling too.
With all this highlighting and speculation going on around his life and relationship with Schofield.
Why has he said nothing ?
Or why CAN he not say anything?
From whatever conditions on his silence may have been put in place as to this.

Without his input.
Speculation will only continue and may even yet intensify.

[bots]

the moment someone else discusses the topic in the public domain, any nda on the subject becomes null and void

[AnnieK]

It's all very uncomfortable to read and watch tbh.
If there is a case to answer it needs to be done in private now. I have no desire to be party to trial by media.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's all very uncomfortable to read and watch tbh.
If there is a case to answer it needs to be done in private now. I have no desire to be party to trial by media.

he used the "media" to become very wealthy and he used his own family along the way

I welcome trial by media for this wretch

[thesheriff443]

The point really is anything he is saying is only a one sided take from him.

What's needed to know is, to even try to clear this up.
Is the other guy in the mix.
He knows the age he was, he knows the full extent of communication with Schofield.
He knows what and where all took place and what too was his take on the relationship.

Furthermore why has nothing been heard from him.
Why?
Is it because Schofield's account is right.
Or is he unable to comment because of anything he's had to sign or been paid not to reveal.

If that's so, then why was it necessary to ensure his silence, what would have been necessary to hide, and STILL be hiding?
Since nothings been heard from him.

So it's all very well for Schofield to give a full media and public interview.
However NOT the other person who Schofield has apologised to.
Apologising for WHAT?

As can be the case, when one person in a concerning issue gives an interview, more questions are created.

His career he says is over.
IF there is nothing unsavoury and all was in order legally.
Then why should his career be over?

If the silence from the other guy continues.
How can Schofield be completely believed since he's admitted to years and years of continual lies and deceit to his wife, children, family, colleagues and the viewing public too while employed on TV.

We have Schofield's own account of this concerning issue.
That's all his interview has done..
No real in depth questions have been concusively either properly addressed or answered.

I do think however, Schofield needs someone close to be in close contact just to make sure he remains safe.
He clearly is broken by this which is very sad.
He'll need very strong support it seems.

I'm still left wondering just what the other younger guy is thinking and how he is feeling too.
With all this highlighting and speculation going on around his life and relationship with Schofield.
Why has he said nothing ?
Or why CAN he not say anything?
From whatever conditions on his silence may have been put in place as to this.

Without his input.
Speculation will only continue and may even yet intensify.

From the lawyers representing him they said

He is no longer willing to deny the relationship he doesn’t want any pictures of him in the press of how he looks now and is working in a remote pub

[thesheriff443]

It's all very uncomfortable to read and watch tbh.
If there is a case to answer it needs to be done in private now. I have no desire to be party to trial by media.

In private things are swept under the carpet
It’s not just Phil that has to face up to what he did it’s others that allowed it to happen

It’s another savile type situation, people allowing someone to abuse their power over someone else and those that should of stopped it allowing it to happen

[thesheriff443]

A handful of people get the top shows but not only that they get spin of shows and game shows and radio shows

The people at the top and those people putting them there and keeping them have to much of a hold over others

We are hearing if you speak up you are out the door, this needs to stop

[bots]

there will never be any legal action taken against Phil. He has lost his TV gig and that's what annoys him. Welcome to the real world Phil.

ITV have questions to answer and they could be in a bit of bother legally, we will just have to see how that develops

[Crimson Dynamo]

that Sun interview is one big piece of spin

[bots]

it's all poor me, poor me. That has 2 effects, it supresses public anger and also tries to guilt people into keeping quiet that would have come forward to speak against him. It's a planned strategy to manipulate

[thesheriff443]

it's all poor me, poor me. That has 2 effects, it supresses public anger and also tries to guilt people into keeping quiet that would have come forward to speak against him. It's a planned strategy to manipulate

He should of spent more time in the mirror practicing because his face didn’t tally up with what he was saying

[Crimson Dynamo]

it's all poor me, poor me. That has 2 effects, it supresses public anger and also tries to guilt people into keeping quiet that would have come forward to speak against him. It's a planned strategy to manipulate

"I would not be here if it weren't for my daughters" shameless using his daughters like that

:idc:

[Liam-]

People and the media won’t be happy until he’s dead at this point

[thesheriff443]

People and the media won’t be happy until he’s dead at this point

Why the need kill him self if he’s done nothing wrong?

He didn’t care about the people he ridiculed on the show

[arista]

he used the "media" to become very wealthy and he used his own family along the way

I welcome trial by media for this wretch


Yes fair points LT.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://tattle.life/attachments/img_6910-jpeg.2212227/

[arista]

People and the media won’t be happy until he’s dead at this point


You must try to add
"Some" at the start.


As not all want him dead

[arista]

BBCnewsHD
even showed a clip of Alison Hammond
crying today.

[UserSince2005]

I saw Amol Rajan in London last weekend, he was out with his two kids and wife. Very short family.

[arista]

I saw Amol Rajan in London last weekend, he was out with his two kids and wife. Very short family.


Yes, he was a Runner
on the Wright Stuff on Ch5

And then became the Editor of the Independent Paper

Now he is the Media Reporter at BBC

[user104658]

Really complicated part is that he probably doesn't see it as grooming (MANY groomers would hand on heart say they're not and believe it) and it might not even have been an intent for it to become a non-platonic relationship.

So giving the benefit of the doubt,

He cultivated a relationship - whether he intended to or not - with a power and experience differential with a young boy who clearly had a lot of admiration for him and developed feelings for him. That can happen unintentionally but when that becomes clear that's when the "Philip" in the situation is supposed to say "Oh dear I didn't know you had those sorts of feelings, this wasn't my intention and is deeply inappropriate and we need to step away from this."

Not "Whoohoo drop your pants".

He really downplays that imbalance by saying he "kinda sorta acknowledges that he did something wrong". This wasn't a lapse of willpower and a one-night hookup it was an ongoing relationship. That's not an "error" it's a choice.

I can appreciate that the onslaught is awful for any human and the media is the beast that it is. Losing his career is consequence enough. He has more than enough money to live out the rest of his life comfortably - he does not need to work in entertainment again. Ever.

So yes on the one hand I think the press "should" leave this part alone, BUT there does need to be a push to find out if there's more, if there was facilitation and a cover-up, and to find out if it is indeed a "culture" and not just about Schofield.

Schofield himself though? He needs to accept that his career and life in the public eye is over and move on. He doesn't have to be on telly giving interviews. If he's truly done nothing worth investigating and it's all "legal and above board" then he could move to a cottage in the middle of nowhere, read some philosophy and try to be a better person for himself.

This sort of smacks of him trying to salvage some scrapings of a career, and being more concerned about "what people think of him" than with actually becoming a better person. Becoming a better person doesn't need an audience.

[Crimson Dynamo]

his defense is "we just became mates and one day we were both naked as it was hot and he tripped on a glace cherry and found himself inside me"

honest guv and before that I had never thought about sex with him :shrug:

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/FTmhHffXEAMzPhu.jpg

[thesheriff443]

The reality of this situation is
It’s only because his brother was convicted of being a pedophile that this story has finally come out otherwise it would be all smiles

[bots]

his defense is "we just became mates and one day we were both naked as it was hot and he tripped on a glace cherry and found himself inside me"

honest guv and before that I had never thought about sex with him :shrug:

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/FTmhHffXEAMzPhu.jpg

you are just jealous because he never offered you the big break as a tea boy

[joeysteele]

From the lawyers representing him they said

He is no longer willing to deny the relationship he doesn’t want any pictures of him in the press of how he looks now and is working in a remote pub

Thanks you for that info sheriff.
I do get he doesn't want to be in the public eye
That's understandable.

I just can't see this ending, even if it can, until he's directly given his account and position.
I really feel for him.
He was the one on the lower rungs of the ladder.
Schofield was like a giant in the media and on TV.
With clearly a lot of power as to the show too.
Hence who he could have co presenting with him even it seems.

I have a terrible suspicious mind.
I accept that.
I felt from his interview he was trying to say enough to defuse this full of unanswered questions of this particular relationship .
In my view he didn't succeed.

However only by saying enough he wanted to while I thought there was a lot he was leaving out.

I too as Annie said, dislike trial by media.
There's a way to stop that though and put all the facts out from all involved in the situation.
After all Schofield was a massive part of the media plus now he has chosen the media still to have his say.
How he wants to say it and portray it.
I fear however the speculation will continue and possibly get worse even from the media.
Moreso from this interview he's just done.

[bots]

BaYgunNdj1Y

[joeysteele]

Really complicated part is that he probably doesn't see it as grooming (MANY groomers would hand on heart say they're not and believe it) and it might not even have been an intent for it to become a non-platonic relationship.

So giving the benefit of the doubt,

He cultivated a relationship - whether he intended to or not - with a power and experience differential with a young boy who clearly had a lot of admiration for him and developed feelings for him. That can happen unintentionally but when that becomes clear that's when the "Philip" in the situation is supposed to say "Oh dear I didn't know you had those sorts of feelings, this wasn't my intention and is deeply inappropriate and we need to step away from this."

Not "Whoohoo drop your pants".

He really downplays that imbalance by saying he "kinda sorta acknowledges that he did something wrong". This wasn't a lapse of willpower and a one-night hookup it was an ongoing relationship. That's not an "error" it's a choice.

I can appreciate that the onslaught is awful for any human and the media is the beast that it is. Losing his career is consequence enough. He has more than enough money to live out the rest of his life comfortably - he does not need to work in entertainment again. Ever.

So yes on the one hand I think the press "should" leave this part alone, BUT there does need to be a push to find out if there's more, if there was facilitation and a cover-up, and to find out if it is indeed a "culture" and not just about Schofield.

Schofield himself though? He needs to accept that his career and life in the public eye is over and move on. He doesn't have to be on telly giving interviews. If he's truly done nothing worth investigating and it's all "legal and above board" then he could move to a cottage in the middle of nowhere, read some philosophy and try to be a better person for himself.

This sort of smacks of him trying to salvage some scrapings of a career, and being more concerned about "what people think of him" than with actually becoming a better person. Becoming a better person doesn't need an audience.


That's a strong post Soldier Boy.
I agree with near all of it.

Your last paragraph is more how I saw his real hope and intention from doing this interview.

He'll have been well advised, what to say, how much to say and reveal, also how to express it too.
With likely strong advice what definitely to leave out.

[user104658]

The reality of this situation is
It’s only because his brother was convicted of being a pedophile that this story has finally come out otherwise it would be all smiles

Largely have to agree with that - I don't think he feels bad about or regrets the relationship in any meaningful way, he's devastated that it's become public knowledge. When he talks about his regrets over "making a mistake" he's thinking "I made a mistake and ruined my career" not "I made a mistake by having a genuinly problematic relationship".

Like I'm sure he does regret it ... because it's ruined something he worked for many years for. "I shouldn't have done it ... because it ended up being bad for me" is not "real" regret though.

[Niamh.]

Largely have to agree with that - I don't think he feels bad about or regrets the relationship in any meaningful way, he's devastated that it's become public knowledge. When he talks about his regrets over "making a mistake" he's thinking "I made a mistake and ruined my career" not "I made a mistake by having a genuinly problematic relationship".

Like I'm sure he does regret it ... because it's ruined something he worked for many years for. "I shouldn't have done it ... because it ended up being bad for me" is not "real" regret though.

Well it's not actually acknowledging what you did was wrong, is it? It's just saying you regret getting caught. I started listening to the interview but I had to turn it off when he said the only reason he was doing the interview was for the benefit of that boy.........yeah right.

[rusticgal]

The higher you climb the harder you fall...
If you are a public figure earning a great deal of money in the public domain then you do the right things in life or you can lose everything at the drop of a hat.
Dont take drugs...don't lie and have affairs and don't commit a crime...and if you do you have no one but yourself to blame :shrug:

[Kazanne]

I think the media /press etc,should leave him alone now,most of the accustations are born from hearsay and chinese whispers,Yes he supposedly did wrong,he has admitted and apologised,there is no need to persecute him like this, we were not there or privvy to conversations or actions,he has daughters who love him and its not fair the hate and vitriole they have to see about thier dad, who are we to judge anyones life style ? This is why i hate the press etc,they just revel in someones downfall.

[joeysteele]

Well it's not actually acknowledging what you did was wrong, is it? It's just saying you regret getting caught. I started listening to the interview but I had to turn it off when he said the only reason he was doing the interview was for the benefit of that boy.........yeah right.

It's smelling even more now to me.

I don't like trial by media and they do get it wrong usually.
I wish we'd had it more in the days of Saville however.

I honestly cannot think what to say of Schofield or if he's being in any way honest never mind fully so.
He's now chosen to involve more and even use the media to say what he wishes.
Sadly he's opened the door to greater media intrusion for all concerned.

Because even in this interview, after admitting he'd knew the boy for a fair while in contact with him.
He still had to think what age he was when he engaged in sex, and repeatedly so with him.

I have to more agree, it's more of regret at getting caught out than real regret for his deceit, lies and even likely gross unprofessional conduct at least.

[user104658]

I think the media /press etc,should leave him alone now,most of the accustations are born from hearsay and chinese whispers,Yes he supposedly did wrong,he has admitted and apologised,there is no need to persecute him like this, we were not there or privvy to conversations or actions,he has daughters who love him and its not fair the hate and vitriole they have to see about thier dad, who are we to judge anyones life style ? This is why i hate the press etc,they just revel in someones downfall.

I do SORT OF mostly agree as I said above that what has happened "is enough" (he'll no longer be working in the public eye that's for sure), although I'd reiterate that he could just quietly step away and wait for the storm to pass instead of appearing in big interviews ... he is part of keeping the conversation going in doing that and as I said, seems to be trying to save his media career, which seems like any "admitting it and apologising" is not really genuine it's self-serving.

Also the bit in bold I honestly again have to object to. Adults befriending children and then entering into sexual relationships with them as soon as they hit their late teens should not be normalised as a simple "lifestyle choice".

[GoldHeart]

It's smelling even more now to me.

I don't like trial by media and they do get it wrong usually.
I wish we'd had it more in the days of Saville however.

I honestly cannot think what to say of Schofield or if he's being in any way honest never mind fully so.
He's now chosen to involve more and even use the media to say what he wishes.
Sadly he's opened the door to greater media intrusion for all concerned.

Because even in this interview, after admitting he'd knew the boy for a fair while in contact with him.
He still had to think what age he was when he engaged in sex, and repeatedly so with him.

I have to more agree, it's more of regret at getting caught out than real regret for his deceit, lies and even likely gross unprofessional conduct at least.


Yeah I don't know about you Joey ,but I find it suspicious and weird how he was thinking about the age of the boy at the time they got into a intimate 'relationship'. Rumours were flying around that he started something with the boy when he was between the ages of 16-18 . But Schofield is now making out it was when the boy was 19 or 20 ?? Hmm I'm not convinced. :suspect:.

He followed him on Twitter when he was 15 ,he says the boy asked him to . He technically met him when he was 10 . It just has groomer vibes all over . Even if it's not intended to be that way ,he himself knew it was wrong to start something with the boy. There's that power of abuse .

I just can't imagine getting someone a job who I've known since they were a kid , helping them and then starting a fling with them . It's so innapropriate and looks dodgy.

[bots]

It's not as big a **** show as the Andrew interview, but it certainly had that vibe. People have become wise to these "set the record straight" type interviews

[joeysteele]

Yeah I don't know about you Joey ,but I find it suspicious and weird how he was thinking about the age of the boy at the time they got into a intimate 'relationship'. Rumours were flying around that he started something with the boy when he was between the ages of 16-18 . But Schofield is now making out it was when the boy was 19 or 20 ?? Hmm I'm not convinced. :suspect:.

He followed him on Twitter when he was 15 ,he says the boy asked him to . He technically met him when he was 10 . It just has groomer vibes all over . Even if it's not intended to be that way ,he himself knew it was wrong to start something with the boy. There's that power of abuse .

I just can't imagine getting someone a job who I've known since they were a kid , helping them and then starting a fling with them . It's so innapropriate and looks dodgy.

I agree with all that.

He even said in the interview he gave.
That the guy had only been working on This morning for a few months.
Then that they were alone in a dressing room and Schofield stated, '' something happened''.

For goodness sake.
Even on that small segment, while admitting he was talking about helping him into TV work.
He got him onto This Morning and within a very short space of time was engaging in sex with him.
It honestly sounds, more and more like it was a plan all along.

You're right it was wrong to even think about starting any sexual relationship with this boy never mind act on it.

I'm fast losing the small amount of any sympathy I may have already had for Schofield actually.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The interview was a PR stunt

nothing more

nothing less

[arista]

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[arista]

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Nice of Holly
to take her Mum on Holiday


[As the scandal over her co-host rumbles
on in the UK,
the mother-of-three, 42,
looked delighted to be on a break
in the Algarve where the sun was
shining, and the temperature hit 25C (77f).]

[user104658]

I agree with all that.

He even said in the interview he gave.
That the guy had only been working on This morning for a few months.
Then that they were alone in a dressing room and Schofield stated, '' something happened''.

For goodness sake.
Even on that small segment, while admitting he was talking about helping him into TV work.
He got him onto This Morning and within a very short space of time was engaging in sex with him.
It honestly sounds, more and more like it was a plan all along.

You're right it was wrong to even think about starting any sexual relationship with this boy never mind act on it.

I'm fast losing the small amount of any sympathy I may have already had for Schofield actually.

The thing is, even if it wasn't... even if it was sparked out of the young lad's love for/admiration of him and he "made the first move", even if Philip had no intentions of it going there -- as the 50+ year old fairly high profile individual in a position of power and authority who got him the job, he had a very clear duty of care & responsibility to shut that down immediately as inappropriate. As he says himself there is no excuse. But it sounds a whole lot like he goes on to make excuses.

[joeysteele]

The thing is, even if it wasn't... even if it was sparked out of the young lad's love for/admiration of him and he "made the first move", even if Philip had no intentions of it going there -- as the 50+ year old fairly high profile individual in a position of power and authority who got him the job, he had a very clear duty of care & responsibility to shut that down immediately as inappropriate. As he says himself there is no excuse. But it sounds a whole lot like he goes on to make excuses.

Absolutely right.

..... AND let it and had it continue too.

[Crimson Dynamo]

yes you are a GROOMER Phil

iQjYpbHGHOs

[GiRTh]

I think the media /press etc,should leave him alone now,most of the accustations are born from hearsay and chinese whispers,Yes he supposedly did wrong,he has admitted and apologised,there is no need to persecute him like this, we were not there or privvy to conversations or actions,he has daughters who love him and its not fair the hate and vitriole they have to see about thier dad, who are we to judge anyones life style ? This is why i hate the press etc,they just revel in someones downfall.Yes, I agree but No one held a gun to Schofield's head and made him post the 'They're all out to get me' on Insta and no one held a gun to his head to do his Prince Andrew-esque interview last night.

[GiRTh]

Well it's not actually acknowledging what you did was wrong, is it? It's just saying you regret getting caught. I started listening to the interview but I had to turn it off when he said the only reason he was doing the interview was for the benefit of that boy.........yeah right.Totally agree :clap1:

Schofield needs to stop the posting and the interviews. He needs to get some practice in at not being on TV cuz he aint coming back from this

He invokes Leo DiCaprio but failed to acknowledge that DiCaprio gets alot of stick for those relationships and doesn't lie about them,

[user104658]

yes you are a GROOMER Phil

iQjYpbHGHOs

Not Pier having the same misunderstanding of what grooming is as Liam and Glenn :worry:. Three peas in a pod they are!

But yes in all seriousness, he does a good job here of outlining why it's still grooming regardless of whether Philip realised what he was doing, or if MM was over 16.

[GiRTh]

The thing is, even if it wasn't... even if it was sparked out of the young lad's love for/admiration of him and he "made the first move", even if Philip had no intentions of it going there -- as the 50+ year old fairly high profile individual in a position of power and authority who got him the job, he had a very clear duty of care & responsibility to shut that down immediately as inappropriate. As he says himself there is no excuse. But it sounds a whole lot like he goes on to make excuses.Agreed. If Schofield didn't want the relationship it would never have happened.

[GiRTh]

Not Pier having the same misunderstanding of what grooming is as Liam and Glenn :worry:. Three peas in a pod they are!

But yes in all seriousness, he does a good job here of outlining why it's still grooming regardless of whether Philip realised what he was doing, or if MM was over 16.This is true. :clap1:

Grooming and coercion are almost impossible to prove because so many people don't recognise it, realise it or understand it.

[user104658]

Yes, I agree but No one held a gun to Schofield's head and made him post the 'They're all out to get me' on Insta and no one held a gun to his head to do his Prince Andrew-esque interview last night.

If you scrutinise it and read inbetween the "I am sorry" and "it was wrong" platitudes, I think it's pretty clear that (like Andrew) he doesn't actually understand what he did that was wrong besides perhaps cheating on his wife, and also that rather than genuinely sorry he feels very hard-done-by and persecuted. He barely gets the apologies out before he starts explaining exactly why all of this is very unfair on him. He even started saying, in effect, "you better all stop criticising me or you never know I might kill myself" which is a classic coercive control technique and really does NOTHING to bolster his case. Like in a relationship it's an actual form of domestic abuse; "Shut up or I might hurt myself and that will be on you".

[GiRTh]

If you scrutinise it and read inbetween the "I am sorry" and "it was wrong" platitudes, I think it's pretty clear that (like Andrew) he doesn't actually understand what he did that was wrong besides perhaps cheating on his wife, and also that rather than genuinely sorry he feels very hard-done-by and persecuted. He barely gets the apologies out before he starts explaining exactly why all of this is very unfair on him. He even started saying, in effect, "you better all stop criticising me or you never know I might kill myself" which is a classic coercive control technique and really does NOTHING to bolster his case. Like in a relationship it's an actual form of domestic abuse; "Shut up or I might hurt myself and that will be on you".
The interview was all over the place. I could easily write a small essay about it. From the opening 'I'm desperately sorry' That kind of over qualifying an apology always looks insincere. Just sorry will do.

Comparing himself to Leo DiCaprio and claiming the public reaction homophobic. .Victim complex. He doesn't see anything wrong with his actions and came across as quite narcissistic.

Who advised him to do it should be fired but I think no one advised him and Schofield still thinks he can dictate the narrative. He came across as quite a monster in that interview

[Liam-]

I think it’s perfectly reasonable for a person to defend themselves when they’re being publicly dragged through the mud by a vicious media and social media armchair detectives, accusing him of being a criminal without any evidence for or any actual accusations.

It’s completely irrational and unfair to automatically decide he’s guilty of something, without any factual basis, slag him off, call him all the names under the same, celebrate him losing his career and then continue to slag him off when he decides to share his side of the story and defend himself.

I can’t stand the man, I think he’s a pompous, arrogant asshole, but the way he’s being treated atm is appalling and will lead one way only.

[bots]

The interview was all over the place. I could easily write a small essay about it. From the opening 'I'm desperately sorry' That kind of over qualifying an apology always looks insincere. Just sorry will do.

Comparing himself to Leo DiCaprio and claiming the public reaction homophobic. .Victim complex. He doesn't see anything wrong with his actions and came across as quite narcissistic.

Who advised him to do it should be fired but I think no one advised him and Schofield still thinks he can dictate the narrative. He came across as quite a monster in that interview

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[GoldHeart]

I don't know why Di Caprio is getting brought into this , all his relationships have been with consenting adults....and as far as I know he never knew any of his girlfriend's when they were children as he groomed them in his life ???! . A big age gap is one thing ,yes might still be a bit strange. But it's not the same.