Phillip Schofield's younger brother is a Paedophile/ Phillip 'Fully' leaves ITV

[GiRTh]

I don't know why Di Caprio is getting brought into this , all his relationships have been with consenting adults....and as far as I know he never knew any of his girlfriend's when they were children as he groomed them in his life ???! . A big age gap is one thing ,yes might still be a bit strange. But it's not the same.Exactly, so why did Schofield even bring it up unless he cant see any difference. He buried himself with the comparison

[GiRTh]

15HTd4Um1m4:laugh::laugh:

[Liam-]

‘Reading between the lines’ of someone’s statement is just catering to your own already concluded narrative and doesn’t help anything but further your biases

[GiRTh]

I think it’s perfectly reasonable for a person to defend themselves when they’re being publicly dragged through the mud by a vicious media and social media armchair detectives, accusing him of being a criminal without any evidence for or any actual accusations.

It’s completely irrational and unfair to automatically decide he’s guilty of something, without any factual basis, slag him off, call him all the names under the same, celebrate him losing his career and then continue to slag him off when he decides to share his side of the story and defend himself.

I can’t stand the man, I think he’s a pompous, arrogant asshole, but the way he’s being treated atm is appalling and will lead one way only.Of course he has the right to defend him self but he did totally the opposite. HE made himself look more dodgy and suspicious

[user104658]

I think it’s perfectly reasonable for a person to defend themselves when they’re being publicly dragged through the mud by a vicious media and social media armchair detectives, accusing him of being a criminal without any evidence for or any actual accusations.

It’s completely irrational and unfair to automatically decide he’s guilty of something, without any factual basis, slag him off, call him all the names under the same, celebrate him losing his career and then continue to slag him off when he decides to share his side of the story and defend himself.

I can’t stand the man, I think he’s a pompous, arrogant asshole, but the way he’s being treated atm is appalling and will lead one way only.

Grooming isn't illegal. I'm not sure how many times that needs to be said. Yes I know people have thrown around "nonce" and "paedo" a bit flippantly but believe it or not, whether he was or wasn't interested in MM when he was underage, neither of those things are illegal either. So who is accusing him of being a criminal? "Paedophilia" isn't a crime, child molestation is a crime. Having (or attempting) sexual contact with a minor is a crime. VERY FEW people have insinuated that he did that.

On this thread I don't think I've seen anyone outright suggest he broke the law.

Again there seems to be this confusion that it's unfair to judge someone's actions unless they're illegal which I'm pretty sure you know is not the case.

[Gusto Brunt]

He hsn't lost everything.

He has about £20M in the bank, plus property and investments. And I do think he will come back to TV.

[GiRTh]

‘Reading between the lines’ of someone’s statement is just catering to your own already concluded narrative and doesn’t help anything but further your biases
What biases. Explain please.

I see a situation where a middle aged wealthy and influential TV star dates a teenage colleague. Where's the bias. :shrug:

If you want to make accusations please back them up

[user104658]

‘Reading between the lines’ of someone’s statement is just catering to your own already concluded narrative and doesn’t help anything but further your biases

I didn't say reading between the lines, I said reading between the "I'm sorry" and "it was wrong" platitudes. As in, what he was actually saying, from his own mouth. His actual words. He threw in "Yes I know I did wrong but..." and "I am so so sorry, however..." but 90% of what he said was "You're all being unfair to me and I did nowt wrong anyway".

[user104658]

He also (I will point out again) started saying effectively: "You all need to stop this criticism of me or I might go and off myself, and that'll be on YOUR conscience."

Where have we heard that before I wonder. "If you don't all start behaving the way I would like you to behave, I will harm myself and it'll be your fault you monster."

Coercive control. Not OK. Suicide is never murder.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder why he did not compare himself to a 55-year-old teacher who had known a boy since primary school then taught him since 15 then started having sex with him in 6th year?

[Liam-]

What biases. Explain please.

I see a situation where a middle aged wealthy and influential TV star dates a teenage colleague. Where's the bias. :shrug:

If you want to make accusations please back them up

The bias that you already believe he’s guilty of some sort of grooming of a child, so you’re obviously going to pick out whatever you can to back that opinion up

It’s understandable because everybody wants to be right when they believe something, but I think in situations like these where there’s no evidence or an actual accusation, it’s a bit unfair to do so

[bots]

lets get back to the crux of it all. The reason he was dumped by ITV was because he lied to them. Everything else is actually noise. He lost his job because he lied. So, get over it Phil

[user104658]

The bias that you already believe he’s guilty of some sort of grooming of a child, so you’re obviously going to pick out whatever you can to back that opinion up

It’s understandable because everybody wants to be right when they believe something, but I think in situations like these where there’s no evidence or an actual accusation, it’s a bit unfair to do so

He is guilty of grooming. You don't think he is, he probably doesn't think he is, but he is. By his own description of their relationship, he is. There's nothing to be "proven". It's not a crime.

[thesheriff443]

He is guilty of grooming. You don't think he is, he probably doesn't think he is, but he is. By his own description of their relationship, he is. There's nothing to be "proven". It's not a crime.

He just started shagging his young mate nothing to see here

[user104658]

lets get back to the crux of it all. The reason he was dumped by ITV was because he lied to them. Everything else is actually noise. He lost his job because he lied. So, get over it Phil

The reason he was dumped by ITV was that he became instantly poisonous to their bottom line as no one wants to watch a family TV show featuring a grey-haired 60 year old who ****s teenagers.

They're trying to distance themselves as fast as possible because it's all coming out in the wash ... I highly, highly doubt ITV higher-ups haven't known about this for years.

[user104658]

I wonder why he did not compare himself to a 55-year-old teacher who had known a boy since primary school then taught him since 15 then started having sex with him in 6th year?

Can you imagine an episode of This Morning with Holly and Phil in 2024, featuring a 60 year old ex-school teacher and an 18 year old girl who is his ex pupil, sat on the couch saying "People judge us but we love each other, we've been persecuted and I've lost my income!" ... and Phil's there like "Good on you mate, what a catch, and totally legal so very unfair of anyone to judge. You want to get after that school for unfair dismissal!"

:think:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Can you imagine an episode of This Morning with Holly and Phil in 2024, featuring a 60 year old ex-school teacher and an 18 year old girl who is his ex pupil, sat on the couch saying "People judge us but we love each other, we've been persecuted and I've lost my income!" ... and Phil's there like "Good on you mate, what a catch, and totally legal so very unfair of anyone to judge. You want to get after that school for unfair dismissal!"

:think:

:joker:

Alison Hammond crying saying "ooh that was bostin bab, oop the villa, wont people just leave SAT (school kid attracted teachers alone) they spend all summer marking jotters and making up school plans they dont have time for adult relationships"

Dermot nodding gravely and saying "and now its over to Gino in the kitchen who is making a Pride Month Dildo rainbow flan with the infants of Brockley Primary school"

:skull:

[Beso]

Hes far to cowardly to top himself.

[GiRTh]

The bias that you already believe he’s guilty of some sort of grooming of a child, so you’re obviously going to pick out whatever you can to back that opinion up

It’s understandable because everybody wants to be right when they believe something, but I think in situations like these where there’s no evidence or an actual accusation, it’s a bit unfair to do soI've made it clear the age difference and the star status is my biggest issue. I would say the same if it was a heterosexual middle age woman with a teenage boy. If I am guilty of having a bias against middle age stars dating teenager then I'm guilty. :shrug:

As for no evidence, both have admitted to the relationship :shrug:

[Kazanne]

Hes far to cowardly to top himself.

Bit harsh parmy.

[GiRTh]

He is guilty of grooming. You don't think he is, he probably doesn't think he is, but he is. By his own description of their relationship, he is. There's nothing to be "proven". It's not a crime.
Agreed.

[GiRTh]

He also (I will point out again) started saying effectively: "You all need to stop this criticism of me or I might go and off myself, and that'll be on YOUR conscience."

Where have we heard that before I wonder. "If you don't all start behaving the way I would like you to behave, I will harm myself and it'll be your fault you monster."

Coercive control. Not OK. Suicide is never murder.I'd forgot about that. He then compared himself to Caroline Flack. :facepalm: The man has no remorse. Its clear to see. The interview showed us what he is really like

[rusticgal]

lets get back to the crux of it all. The reason he was dumped by ITV was because he lied to them. Everything else is actually noise. He lost his job because he lied. So, get over it Phil


Thats it in a nutshell....he got sacked because he lied about the Affair but because of the age difference and his brother going to prison recently obviously there is much speculation going on....

[joeysteele]

Why has Schofield got the lawyer for the guy.
He must be well into his twenties now, how could he not get his own lawyer.
Does this really mean Schofield is paying this lawyer's fees then?

I'm finding it difficult to keep up.

It surely would be better for both to have their OWN choice as to lawyers.
I'm puzzled at this and just what instructions both their lawyers have.

This was an extremely yes hard interview to watch and it's impossible not to feel some sadness for Schofield.
However it's opened up as many questions as it may have answered.
From the limited questioning that was even actually done.

[Crimson Dynamo]

why didn't he admit to this unwise but not illegal affair when he "came out" as gay?

[Beso]

Bit harsh parmy.Harsh but true kaz.

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[arista]

Weds 14th June 10AM Live
Parliament Committee
have asked ITV CEO
to attend.


How nice for that Mature Lady



Joey
this matters more,
Then Phillip going to the BBC
and the Sun

[joeysteele]

why didn't he admit to this unwise but not illegal affair when he "came out" as gay?

Good question.

[Zizu]

He hsn't lost everything.

He has about £20M in the bank, plus property and investments. And I do think he will come back to TV.

There’s no coming back from this .. his detractors and the media circus has ensured that … he’s already one of the most hated people on Earth

I don’t think there is any chance of him
EVER appearing on telly again ( apart from maybe a televised trial of some kind)


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[user104658]

he’s already one of the most hated people on Earth

A bit dramatic Zizu... I don't think many people actually "hate" him they just want him to get off telly screens and take accountability for his actions... and that's just people in the UK. I doubt many people outside the UK know who he is at all.

[bots]

whats with the BBC headline homophobia has fuelled This Morning affair coverage

It's everyones fault except Phil's?

[rusticgal]

There’s no coming back from this .. his detractors and the media circus has ensured that … he’s already one of the most hated people on Earth

I don’t think there is any chance of him
EVER appearing on telly again ( apart from maybe a televised trial of some kind)


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He is not the most hated person on Earth…:laugh:

[joeysteele]

whats with the BBC headline homophobia has fuelled This Morning affair coverage

It's everyones fault except Phil's?

Schofield has indicated he thinks homophobia has fuelled the coverage of this issue about him.
Which is rubbish in my view.

Yes, some will have prejudice of that nature.
However my guess is the possible concen is just what is the truth about this.

Whether it is men grooming younger girls.
Or women grooming younger boys.
Or anyone gay grooming younger girls or boys.

That's what has turned people to question just what went on here.

Grooming is dangerous, I still cannot see where this MAY yet not be shown to have been the case here.
Plus happening in a professional setting is also unsavoury.
IF that was the case.

Grooming is sick, no matter the scenario or by whom it is done.

[rusticgal]

whats with the BBC headline homophobia has fuelled This Morning affair coverage

It's everyones fault except Phil's?


Of course….

[Swan]

whats with the BBC headline homophobia has fuelled This Morning affair coverage

It's everyones fault except Phil's?

When he came out as gay we celebrated his "bravery" and said what an "inspiration" he was so much so that i thought we were gonna mark the event with a public holiday.

Homophobia has played no part in this whatsoever.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The only homophobia has come FROM Schofield

using his sexuality as a media bargaining chip to cover up his desire for teenage boys

[GiRTh]

whats with the BBC headline homophobia has fuelled This Morning affair coverage

It's everyones fault except Phil's?Classic narcissist.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxnUtOaXwAMRoCP?format=jpg&name=small


Monday 10AM

Holly and Tubby

[thesheriff443]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxnUtOaXwAMRoCP?format=jpg&name=small


Monday 10AM

Holly and Tubby

Your an arshole arista

[GoldHeart]

I've made it clear the age difference and the star status is my biggest issue. I would say the same if it was a heterosexual middle age woman with a teenage boy. If I am guilty of having a bias against middle age stars dating teenager then I'm guilty. :shrug:

As for no evidence, both have admitted to the relationship :shrug:

Exactly GiRTh
I for one have always found the Cheryl Cole's and Elvis' of this world questionable and a little creepy.

I don't care if someone is male or female or gay or straight or trans , if you're being inappropriate with a minor and especially lying about it ...then I'm going to find it suspicious.

[Zizu]

He is not the most hated person on Earth…:laugh:


‘One of the most hated people in this country.. at this moment’


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[bots]

‘One of the most hated people in this country.. at this moment’


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people just don't think like that :laugh:

He is one of the most talked about is about as strong as ir gets :laugh:

[Zizu]

people just don't think like that :laugh:

He is one of the most talked about is about as strong as ir gets :laugh:


But they are saying horrid things ..


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[user104658]

whats with the BBC headline homophobia has fuelled This Morning affair coverage

It's everyones fault except Phil's?

The idea is that questioning a relationship between a much older man and a teenage boy is being "homophobic". Which is quite a troubling statement really because it suggests that that's specifically a normal relationship for gay people to have (obviously that is NOT the case).

On the contrary to it being homophobic; I actually think the backlash would be worse if MM was a girl he had met at 10, started "mentoring" at 15 and ****ed at 18. I think there are a lot of people who excuse it because MM is male, and (misogynistically) seen as having more agency/being less likely to have been manipulated by an older influential man.

[Oliver_W]

On the contrary to it being homophobic; I actually think the backlash would be worse if MM was a girl he had met at 10, started "mentoring" at 15 and ****ed at 18. I think there are a lot of people who excuse it because MM is male, and (misogynistically) seen as having more agency/being less likely to have been manipulated by an older influential man.

Just like how teenage boys who are victims of statutory rape by a woman are often branded as "lucky" etc.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying Phillip stat-raped MM :rolleyes:

[UserSince2005]

Lol at him threatening to kill himself if we don’t stop talking about it.

[GiRTh]

Lol at him threatening to kill himself if we don’t stop talking about it.Yep. As Soldier TS has alluded to, its like a petulant child saying 'Mom if you don't buy me a new car, I'll kill myself'. Its manipulative

[bots]

Yep. As Soldier TS has alluded to, its like a petulant child saying 'Mom if you don't buy me a new car, I'll kill myself'. Its manipulative

it's guilting the public but its also saying to all his ex work colleagues, keep your mouth shut, so it's a real form of coercion

[rusticgal]

He would have been better off staying quiet….

I know this is speculation on my part but I reckon when he was questioning his sexuality he had become close to the young man but not acted upon it…but then he had an opportunity and took it…in the knowledge that he had done so much to help this young man that he could be trusted to keep quiet. People started to talk and he was questioned by Holly and the producers and they both denied it…this I reckon is when Phillip realised he was treading on dangerous ground and the young man was dumped and moved on to LW. However talk was going around the studio and Philip then decided to ‘come out’ on NTV allowing everyone to commend him for his honesty and bravery…then of course with his brothers demise a few weeks ago..it got the old tongues wagging again and we are where we are today…
That’s my take on it…..and how it panned out…pure speculation but it does make some sense..

As for the interview….he seemed so focused on the other man and how he had wronged him and it was all his fault…but he didn’t seem to be very apologetic to his poor wife and daughters…bizarre.

[Glenn.]

Still waiting for actual allegations of abuse and grooming…

You guys said it would be soon

[Cherie]

whats with the BBC headline homophobia has fuelled This Morning affair coverage

It's everyones fault except Phil's?

joke, like if Eamonn Holmes had met a minor and then went on to have sex in HIS ITV DRESSING ROOM when they became legal the reaction would be any different..

disgusting

[GiRTh]

it's guilting the public but its also saying to all his ex work colleagues, keep your mouth shut, so it's a real form of coercionAgree. Cant say any more :clap1:

[joeysteele]

it's guilting the public but its also saying to all his ex work colleagues, keep your mouth shut, so it's a real form of coercion

I have to agree with you here..

I've watched the interview again.
That's exactly how it comes across as you describe it.

[rusticgal]

Still waiting for actual allegations of abuse and grooming…

You guys said it would be soon


The abuse is in the grooming….’soon’ can be anytime in the near future so let’s wait and see…

[arista]

Stupid Waste of a Front Page

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[arista]

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[arista]

Look, if the public Spit on him
he can survive

[Mystic Mock]

Hes far to cowardly to top himself.

Hopefully you're right.

We don't want another Caroline Flack situation after all.

[Mystic Mock]

whats with the BBC headline homophobia has fuelled This Morning affair coverage

It's everyones fault except Phil's?

I'd ignore the Media as they always love to look for prejudice in their headlines nowadays.

I have no doubt that some people will be Homophobic towards Phillip Schofield, but I think (and like to believe) that most people want to get to the bottom of just wtf was going on between the two guys in exact detail.

[Mystic Mock]

He is not the most hated person on Earth…:laugh:

That's got to be the Lostprophets singer surely.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Exactly GiRTh
I for one have always found the Cheryl Cole's and Elvis' of this world questionable and a little creepy.

I don't care if someone is male or female or gay or straight or trans , if you're being inappropriate with a minor and especially lying about it ...then I'm going to find it suspicious.

Tbf to Elvis, he was apart of a totally different generation to most of us that are alive today, where age of consent laws were a bit more murky.

I'd like to think that if Elvis was apart of today's generation that he wouldn't be with someone so young.

[joeysteele]

Something I find annoying on this.

He states, it was a grave error, unwise that it happened.
What's the meaning behind the statement it was his fault.

Despite his apologies to the young man of near 4 decades younger than him.

To now be described as unwise and a grave error, really is disrespect to that young man's feelings and own emotions

Then to state it lasted ONLY a few months, never boyfriends and he says only happened 4 or 5 times
While he says at the time he was struggling with his sexuality.

So the young man, probably used and then discarded after he'd got his way.
How callous that sounds.
To me anyhow.

He has chosen to use the media to have said what HE wants to say and how only HE wants it portrayed too.
People are going to make up their own minds on that interview.
As to was he convincing or is there many more follow on questions not asked OR was it a mix of truth and also deceit still.
From a man who has decades of experience of knowing the media inside out and how it works 'AND' how to try to work it too.

[bots]

my take away from all of this is that Phil is just not a nice guy. He has lied, cheated, used his position for personal gain ( the queue jumping makes a lot more sense now) and it looks very likely that he groomed someone too.

What goes around comes around and I can't summon any sympathy at all for the position he now finds himself in

[Zizu]

my take away from all of this is that Phil is just not a nice guy. He has lied, cheated, used his position for personal gain ( the queue jumping makes a lot more sense now) and it looks very likely that he groomed someone too.

What goes around comes around and I can't summon any sympathy at all for the position he now finds himself in


The complication is that the ones labelling Schofield has unpleasant/ odious have all been unpleasant/odious people themselves… Eamon Holmes , Piers Morgan, Katie Hopkins and Dan Wootton etc


The other offshoot ( is that the word) is that people like Wootton has had his profile raised beyond recognition !!

I had barely heard of his name until this week … presumably that is what he was hoping for ??


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[Kazanne]

Exactly GiRTh
I for one have always found the Cheryl Cole's and Elvis' of this world questionable and a little creepy.

I don't care if someone is male or female or gay or straight or trans , if you're being inappropriate with a minor and especially lying about it ...then I'm going to find it suspicious.

But don't forget Goldheart,this sounds a tad hypocritical when you were defending Michael Jackson back in the day ,as I did, I never believed he abused boys and still dont,but we have to be consistant in what is right and what is wrong,Jackson was found not guilty and Phillip Scholfield has not even been charged.When someone is charged that's fair enough.

[thesheriff443]

Something I find annoying on this.

He states, it was a grave error, unwise that it happened.
What's the meaning behind the statement it was his fault.

Despite his apologies to the young man of near 4 decades younger than him.

To now be described as unwise and a grave error, really is disrespect to that young man's feelings and own emotions

Then to state it lasted ONLY a few months, never boyfriends and he says only happened 4 or 5 times
While he says at the time he was struggling with his sexuality.

So the young man, probably used and then discarded after he'd got his way.
How callous that sounds.
To me anyhow.

He has chosen to use the media to have said what HE wants to say and how only HE wants it portrayed too.
People are going to make up their own minds on that interview.
As to was he convincing or is there many more follow on questions not asked OR was it a mix of truth and also deceit still.
From a man who has decades of experience of knowing the media inside out and how it works 'AND' how to try to work it too.

It’s like a criminal going to court , he knows he is guilty so is pleading guilty to get a shorter sentence and while he is there adding mitigating circumstances to justify his actions in some way

He talks about mm as being totally innocent and his family being totally innocent that screams at me!, predator

[Beso]

The complication is that the ones labelling Schofield has unpleasant/ odious have all been unpleasant/odious people themselves… Eamon Holmes , Piers Morgan, Katie Hopkins and Dan Wootton etc


The other offshoot ( is that the word) is that people like Wootton has had his profile raised beyond recognition !!

I had barely heard of his name until this week … presumably that is what he was hoping for ??


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They are only odious and unpleasant because you dont agree with their harsh criticisms of things. What Schofield has done is criminal, nasty and vindictive.No way does it compare to those peoples opinions they have on subject matters.

[Crimson Dynamo]

my take away from all of this is that Phil is just not a nice guy. He has lied, cheated, used his position for personal gain ( the queue jumping makes a lot more sense now) and it looks very likely that he groomed someone too.

What goes around comes around and I can't summon any sympathy at all for the position he now finds himself in

and the fact that very few other celebs have lept to his defense (including his best celeb friend) speaks volumes

[joeysteele]

my take away from all of this is that Phil is just not a nice guy. He has lied, cheated, used his position for personal gain ( the queue jumping makes a lot more sense now) and it looks very likely that he groomed someone too.

What goes around comes around and I can't summon any sympathy at all for the position he now finds himself in

I've tried to avoid thinking this way.
However I am thinking he has more worrying concerns possibly, just my thinking, of what else may possibly be coming out too.
Hence the performance in that interview.

Hence these statements if true, on injunctions/NDA on the younger man believed to likely be a possibility.
If all was really above board why the need for ensuring the silence of the other or others nvolved.

Sadly for him and on the show 'This Morning' he has gone in strong with others in difficulties and personal issues..
Once you put yourself in that platform.
You can only sadly expect a backlash if you are found in personal issue difficulties yourself.

[joeysteele]

It’s like a criminal going to court , he knows he is guilty so is pleading guilty to get a shorter sentence and while he is there adding mitigating circumstances to justify his actions in some way

He talks about mm as being totally innocent and his family being totally innocent that screams at me!, predator

Yes I agree sheriff.
That's really strong points.

[Oliver_W]

Still waiting for actual allegations of abuse and grooming…

You guys said it would be soon

Just exactly what do you understand grooming to be?

If you think a middle-aged man befriending a teenager aftermeeting him at age ten, getting him a job through which he has de facto and actual power over him, and then bedding him at the earliest (legal) opportunity ... if you think that isn't grooming, I'd be interested to hear what you think is?

[joeysteele]

They are only odious and unpleasant because you dont agree with their harsh criticisms of things. What Schofield has done is criminal, nasty and vindictive.No way does it compare to those peoples opinions they have on subject matters.

There's an interview with the perceived young man from This Morning where he's talking to Schofield.
Obviously very friendly at that time.
No doubt on that.

The line that concerns me at the end.
Is when the young man asks him about say 3 years on what will he be doing.
Schofield answers with no hesitation.
If he's still getting away with it he'll be happy.

Getting away with what exactly ?

It meant likely little or nothing at that time but now at least has lights lighting up if not have them flashing, ..... yet.

[Liam-]

He’s probably saying the guy did nothing wrong because he’s not the one that had the affair or betrayed anybodies trust

[Beso]

There's an interview with the perceived young man from This Morning where he's talking to Schofield.

Obviously very friendly at that time.

No doubt on that.



The line that concerns me at the end.

Is when the young man asks him about say 3 years on what will he be doing.

Schofield answers with no hesitation.

If he's still getting away with it he'll be happy.



Getting away with what exactly ?



It meant likely little or nothing at that time but now at least has lights lighting up if not have them flashing, ..... yet.One of savilles favourite lines.

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[joeysteele]

Just exactly what do you understand grooming to be?

If you think a middle-aged man befriending a teenager aftermeeting him at age ten, getting him a job through which he has de facto and actual power over him, and then bedding him at the earliest (legal) opportunity ... if you think that isn't grooming, I'd be interested to hear what you think is?

I have to agree here.

I'm not a parent but if this had been a boy or girl of any of my family.
Then things had come to this.
Where online at least, someone nearly 4 decades older NOT connected to the family were in contact with the child as even a teen.

Then got him to work in the same place he was working.
Working closely with him.
Then revelations of a sexual relationship came about.

Which was lied about to employers, friends and closest family, tried to be kept a total secret.

I'd be absolutely livid and furious with the near 60 year old, using that so called professional setting to engage in sex with said young person.
I really cannot believe any parent would not be equally livid and not see it as anything other than unsavoury and wrong.

It's easy to say now he never thought of this person sexually before in all his contact with him.
Then again he'd have to say that.

[thesheriff443]

He’s probably saying the guy did nothing wrong because he’s not the one that had the affair or betrayed anybodies trust

No he said he is totally innocent

[arista]

Matt working in a Pub

His story is best to come out in the Guardian

[rusticgal]

He’s probably saying the guy did nothing wrong because he’s not the one that had the affair or betrayed anybodies trust


Well he lied along with Schofield...

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1664945997334605824/HMR5_8S0?format=jpg&name=small

[Caroline Flack’s mother criticises ITV
over Phillip Schofield departure
Broadcaster treats on-screen talent as ‘commodities’ and
‘learned nothing’ from her daughter’s death,
she has said]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/jun/03/caroline-flack-mother-criticises-itv-over-handling-of-phillip-schofield-departure?CMP=share_btn_tw



I do not see Flack
in the same way.

[Alf]

BaYgunNdj1YVery unprofessional. And embarrassing to boot.

[Liam-]

Well he lied along with Schofield...

And? He’s not the one who had the affair, the responsibility isn’t on him, that’s what I feel Schofe was referring to

[Vanessa]

There's an interview with the perceived young man from This Morning where he's talking to Schofield.
Obviously very friendly at that time.
No doubt on that.

The line that concerns me at the end.
Is when the young man asks him about say 3 years on what will he be doing.
Schofield answers with no hesitation.
If he's still getting away with it he'll be happy.

Getting away with what exactly ?

It meant likely little or nothing at that time but now at least has lights lighting up if not have them flashing, ..... yet.

Yes, it should definitely be investigated. The guy was 15, that's underage in itself.
But he has known him since he was 10. That's the part that worries me.

[Vanessa]

I don't agree with this trial by media.
If he's broken the law the police hopefully will deal with it.
I hate to see this story front page everyday. It's a bit too much.
The so called journalists have no respect for that poor lad or Philip wife and kids.
Those are the ones I really feel for.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't agree with this trial by media.
If he's broken the law the police hopefully will deal with it.
I hate to see this story front page everyday. It's a bit too much.
The so called journalists have no respect for that poor lad or Philip wife and kids.
Those are the ones I really feel for.

Its not on the front page of todays Telegraph, Times, Guardian, I, Star, FT

If it is on the others its because the readers of those papers want to read about it

Journalists just reflect the appetites of their readers

[user104658]

Still waiting for actual allegations of abuse and grooming…

You guys said it would be soon

Glenn are you actually thick or are you just playing thick?

[Zizu]

They are only odious and unpleasant because you dont agree with their harsh criticisms of things. What Schofield has done is criminal, nasty and vindictive.No way does it compare to those peoples opinions they have on subject matters.


I bet if you did a poll and lumped Eamon Holmes , Piers Morgan and Katie Hopkins together and then got people to vote either pleasant or unpleasant.. 95% would say they are odious and unpleasant..

Nothing to do with the Schofield case .. they’ve just added to their unpleasantness as regards that instance.


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[Crimson Dynamo]

9f_7B2j6mZM

[Mystic Mock]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1664945997334605824/HMR5_8S0?format=jpg&name=small

[Caroline Flack’s mother criticises ITV
over Phillip Schofield departure
Broadcaster treats on-screen talent as ‘commodities’ and
‘learned nothing’ from her daughter’s death,
she has said]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/jun/03/caroline-flack-mother-criticises-itv-over-handling-of-phillip-schofield-departure?CMP=share_btn_tw



I do not see Flack
in the same way.

Well tbf the Media are treating Schofield like he is a criminal, even though he hasn't been charged with anything... Yet.

[Oliver_W]

Well tbf the Media are treating Schofield like he is a criminal, even though he hasn't been charged with anything... Yet.

I don't think be did commit a crime, I'm fairly confident he waited until MM was legal.

Grooming itself isn't technically a crime, and that's the thing for which he's been accused.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well tbf the Media are treating Schofield like he is a criminal, even though he hasn't been charged with anything... Yet.

No "they" are not. They are reporting on the information that is available.

Are you saying BBC 1,2 are?

Are Channel 4 or ITV?

The Times/Guardian/Telegraph/Mail/I/Mirror?

BBC Radio 1,2,3,4?

Commercial Radio like LBC/Talk/Times?


Who specifically do you mean and let's see an example

[Liam-]

Well tbf the Media are treating Schofield like he is a criminal, even though he hasn't been charged with anything... Yet.

He’s being treated like a criminal despite not even being actually accused of anything

[user104658]

He’s being treated like a criminal despite not even being actually accused of anything illegal

Fixed

[Crimson Dynamo]

how do you treat a celeb like a criminal anyway

what is the process here?

I have not seen any photoshop pics with Schofield in a orange outfit with leg-chains

:think:

[Cherie]

the interview was car crash, no mention of Steph, think she has finally decided enough is enough, guilt tripping his daughters into standing by his side or he would top himself, made light of the affair, just a casual fling 4 or 5 times in his dressing room, Matthew was obviously infatuated and was slung aside when Phil came to his senses, not sure about the dressing room either, didnt he arrive via Taxi to the studio from Phils home on Fridays, no responsibility taken as an adult male in his 50s taking advantage of a starry eyed youngster


The questions ITV have to answer is why Matthew was 'promoted' to LW
Why did he leave and why was he paid to leave....

[Crimson Dynamo]

the interview was car crash, no mention of Steph, think she has finally decided enough is enough, guilt tripping his daughters into standing by his side or he would top himself, made light of the affair, just a casual fling 4 or 5 times in his dressing room, Matthew was obviously infatuated and was slung aside when Phil came to his senses, not sure about the dressing room either, didnt he arrive via Taxi to the studio from Phils home on Fridays, no responsibility taken as an adult male in his 50s taking advantage of a starry eyed youngster


The questions ITV have to answer is why Matthew was 'promoted' to LW
Why did he leave and why was he paid to leave....

he started with 4-5 times and then changed it to 5-6

absolute full of sh1t everyword out of his mouth

[rusticgal]

the interview was car crash, no mention of Steph, think she has finally decided enough is enough, guilt tripping his daughters into standing by his side or he would top himself, made light of the affair, just a casual fling 4 or 5 times in his dressing room, Matthew was obviously infatuated and was slung aside when Phil came to his senses, not sure about the dressing room either, didnt he arrive via Taxi to the studio from Phils home on Fridays, no responsibility taken as an adult male in his 50s taking advantage of a starry eyed youngster


The questions ITV have to answer is why Matthew was 'promoted' to LW
Why did he leave and why was he paid to leave....



Poor Steph…very little empathy shown for this lady in his interview.

[Swan]

He’s being treated like a criminal despite not even being actually accused of anything

Omg Liam, yes, in theory he's not broke the law, but he did groom that boy, plain to see.

You're defending him for ONE reason, and that's because he's gay. No way on earth would you be like this if Morgan, Trump etc did the same thing.

I agree we should just let Philip be now, but come on. Gay or not, he's snidey person. And a predator.

[joeysteele]

Poor Steph…very little empathy shown for this lady in his interview.

Dead right rusticgal.

He's done himself no favours with that interview.
I think he held more back than what he revealed.

He's still paying for the lads lawyers too.
On what agenda are the conditions for that is the question I'd be asking.
Or is it while he's paying for them, the lad cannot say a single thing.
There's an ever increasing bad smell around this.

[Kate!]

He's only bothered about himself. It's so transparent. It's all damage control as he sees it. He must think the public are stupid. Pathetic.

[rusticgal]

He's only bothered about himself. It's so transparent. It's all damage control as he sees it. He must think the public are stupid. Pathetic.


Yup I agree….

[Beso]

I bet if you did a poll and lumped Eamon Holmes , Piers Morgan and Katie Hopkins together and then got people to vote either pleasant or unpleasant.. 95% would say they are odious and unpleasant..

Nothing to do with the Schofield case .. they’ve just added to their unpleasantness as regards that instance.


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You need to make odious part of the question.

But you are wrong even if you add that as part of the question...I would say 68 percent max would agree with it. If it were just phillip and those questions though, you are talking 95 percent agree with him being odious, creepy, vile,unpleasant, untrustworthy etc

[Beso]

Just everyone remeber that youtube clip of jack jones popping the confetti for his millionth subscriber was taken in 2014, when Phillips dining guest was 14.

Of course, he didn't groom him though.

[arista]

Just everyone remember that youtube clip of jack jones popping the confetti for his millionth subscriber was taken in 2014, when Phillips dining guest was 14.

Of course, he didn't groom him though.


Yes Matt aged just 14

Phillip & his lover Matt


Good job he got that
on his phone

[Kazanne]

Didn't Cheryl Cole meet Liam Payne when he was 14 ? why is it different for a guy and not a woman ?

[Vanessa]

Didn't Cheryl Cole meet Liam Payne when he was 14 ? why is it different for a guy and not a woman ?

Thats definitely wrong as well.

[joeysteele]

Didn't Cheryl Cole meet Liam Payne when he was 14 ? why is it different for a guy and not a woman ?

That is wrong too I agree.

I am also someone who believes that age is just a number however with some boundaries.

There's only really 10 years though between Cheryl Cole and Liam.
That's more like older friend, brother or sister range.
Still dubious, I agree with you absolutely.

I mean I just don't know what I'd think or want done if I had a son or daughter who was as a teen, befriended online for years by someone not of the family, who was more like old enough to be their Grandparent.
Who then a few years later was having sex with them.
After possibly manipulating getting them to work in the same place as them too.

There's likely at least 35 years between Schofield and this young man.
Who he had sex with and then discarded.
Seemingly with no emotion too as he said in the interview he didn't and hadn't ever loved him.
So what, it was just for sex then, this build up of the relationship.

That's why I can see a bit of a difference to Cole and Payne.
I can't believe I'm defending in a way Cheryl Cole.
Mock will near choke on his drink if he reads this.:joker:

[Cherie]

Didn't Cheryl Cole meet Liam Payne when he was 14 ? why is it different for a guy and not a woman ?

well there are a few differences here, Cheryl was not married when she entered the relationship, there was a 10 year age difference, she didnt lie about it, she didnt mess with his head and they went on to have a relationship which the public knew about which included having a child together.....

Phil was forced out of the closet by this affair, while married to Steph which he then went on to LIE about repeatedly, as well as discarding the young boy when he was advised to or when he came to his senses

[thesheriff443]

well there are a few differences here, Cheryl was not married when she entered the relationship, there was a 10 year age difference, she didnt lie about it, she didnt mess with his head and they went on to have a relationship which the public knew about which included having a child together.....

Phil was forced out of the closet by this affair, while married to Steph which he then went on to LIE about repeatedly, as well as discarding the young boy when he was advised to or when he came to his senses

Plus they where both successful and famous people

[Zizu]

Didn't Cheryl Cole meet Liam Payne when he was 14 ? why is it different for a guy and not a woman ?


Were One Direction only 14 !!??


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[joeysteele]

Were One Direction only 14 !!??


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He was around 14 when he first auditioned for X Factor in 2008.
Howeve he got put out.

Then in 2010 he auditioned again when 16.
That's when he was put in the group.

[Cherie]

kkYes Matt aged just 14

Phillip & his lover Matt


Good job he got that
on his phone


Lets be clear there is nothing wrong with Phil meeting this lad to give him some career advice, but when this same lad ends up as a runner on the same show as Phil and they go on to have an affair then there are red flags all over the shop....we all have friends male and female who gave people they knew a helping hand into work, they didnt go on to have affairs with them which is the issue here, and if they did the same red flags would be waving

[joeysteele]

kk


Lets be clear there is nothing wrong with Phil meeting this lad to give him some career advice, but when this same lad ends up as a runner on the same show as Phil and they go on to have an affair then there are red flags all over the shop....we all have friends male and female who gave people they knew a helping hand into work, they didnt go on to have affairs with them which is the issue here, and if they did the same red flags would be waving

Exactly this.

[Crimson Dynamo]

kk


Lets be clear there is nothing wrong with Phil meeting this lad to give him some career advice, but when this same lad ends up as a runner on the same show as Phil and they go on to have an affair then there are red flags all over the shop....we all have friends male and female who gave people they knew a helping hand into work, they didnt go on to have affairs with them which is the issue here, and if they did the same red flags would be waving

And of course his account is littered with lies to protect him

Id imagine the actual truth is a million miles away form compulsive liar Schofield

[Oliver_W]

Seemingly with no emotion too as he said in the interview he didn't and hadn't ever loved him.
So what, it was just for sex then, this build up of the relationship.


He has the brass neck to suicide-bait, while also telling the world that he never loved MM? The latter of whom apparently thought they were "forever" ?

[Glenn.]

He’s being treated like a criminal despite not even being actually accused of anything

.

[Oliver_W]

.

Do you have any response to the multiple posters who've outlined exactly how he is a groomer? You don't even have to call it abuse, and no-one’s credibly accusing him of breaking the law; but I'd be interested to hear a refutation to to him having groomed MM.

[arista]

Still waiting for actual allegations of abuse and grooming…

You guys said it would be soon


No,
I said when Matt goes to the Press.


Once he gets Good Cash

He can spell out the grooming


We do not yet have a Date that young Matt
tells his side.

[arista]

kk


Lets be clear there is nothing wrong with Phil meeting this lad to give him some career advice, but when this same lad ends up as a runner on the same show as Phil and they go on to have an affair then there are red flags all over the shop....we all have friends male and female who gave people they knew a helping hand into work, they didnt go on to have affairs with them which is the issue here, and if they did the same red flags would be waving


Sure, he gave inside Advice.

But after that
that chat could be about Gay Sex.



Anything is Possible
with Phillip.

[thesheriff443]

I’m sure the police that investigated his brother wound like to look at his internet search history.

When his brother confessed to him, Phil didn’t go to the police, he told his brother to see a doctor.

[arista]

I’m sure the police that investigated his brother wound like to look at his internet search history.

When his brother confessed to him, Phil didn’t go to the police, he told his brother to see a doctor.


Great Point


What a Stink Liam and Glenn

[GoldHeart]

Didn't Cheryl Cole meet Liam Payne when he was 14 ? why is it different for a guy and not a woman ?

Kaz i told you that has weird vibes aswell, especially when she said she found Liam "cute" at the time. I really don't know why people keep trying to make out Schofield is getting it worse just because he's a " gay man ". The guy was cheating on his wife and sneaking around. And he's technically known the guy since he was 10 or something, didn't he go to his school or something and was pictured??.

Whilst I'll agree that there can be double standards when it's gender . I'm pretty sure anyone with common sense ....sees creepy grooming has no colour,gender or sexuality . If an adult has known someone as a child...and then starts a intimate or sexual relationship with them further down the line ,then there's something off about it. And it makes you suspicious about alot of things.

However difference being , as far as we know Cheryl didn't do anything with Liam until he was of age ( granted it's still questionable and weird ) , but there was no sneaking around and lying. And I don't think she was in contact with him when he was underage?.

Schofield's story sounds sketchy in itself, and I believe something happened with the boy was much younger.


I personally cannot put myself in that mind set ,I could never tutor or watch someone grow up and then want to start " dating" . It's inappropriate and wrong . Plus the whole abuse of power. I believe Schofield knew he could experiment with this young guy, and take advantage as he knew he could use his position of power and manipulate the boy.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-f8644e0a-90c1-478b-a626-d9dd146ad881.jpeg

[thesheriff443]

Because it’s a gay man and not an heterosexual should we all just be saying, oh well it’s a gay man let’s not bother questioning the facts let’s care about the other much younger man because after all he is gay as well.

[Zizu]

Interesting

:

Piers Morgan says ‘it’s time to stop relentless persecution’ of Phillip Schofield

Former ‘Good Morning Britain’ presenter spoke out after Schofield’s emotional interview with the BBC, in which he addressed the scandal surrounding his affair with a younger ITV colleague


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[Jordan.]

Interesting

:

Piers Morgan says ‘it’s time to stop relentless persecution’ of Phillip Schofield

Former ‘Good Morning Britain’ presenter spoke out after Schofield’s emotional interview with the BBC, in which he addressed the scandal surrounding his affair with a younger ITV colleague


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Relentless attacks on someones character never bothered him before. What's he worried about?

[thesheriff443]

Relentless attacks on someones character never bothered him before. What's he worried about?

I was thinking the same thing.

[bots]

I know Piers went easy on Meghan when the knives were out for her

[joeysteele]

Relentless attacks on someones character never bothered him before. What's he worried about?

Things must be really bad to only be able to hold ignorant Morgan up as any pillar of virtue of supporting the wrongs of Schofield.

[Zizu]

Relentless attacks on someones character never bothered him before. What's he worried about?


I’m thinking public backlash ?!!


I don’t follow
Maybe his PR people can sense something in the air ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Speaking on his GB News programme on Monday morning Phil's former This Morning colleague Eamonn called for 'anyone watching today who has kissed Phillip Schofield, let us know.'

'He said in is forty odd years of broadcasting that he's made one mistake, he had one kiss that he shouldn't have had.'

'I put it to anyone watching today that if you have kissed Phillip Schofield let us know. Let us see if that figure of one grows to the figure that I believe it is probably at.'

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/05/07/71769057-12159691-image-a-1_1685947258445.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12159691/Eamonn-Holmes-blastes-Phillip-Schofields-lies-lies-lies.html

[arista]

[Phillip Schofield embracing his elderly mother
after he was sacked from the show.
The 61-year-old was seen hugging his mother
Pat, 87, on a bench overlooking the sea in
Newquay, Cornwall, last month]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/04/19/71753755-0-image-a-41_1685904622413.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12158071/Axed-Morning-star-Philip-Schofield-pictured-embracing-mother-87-bench-Cornwall.html

[user104658]

Imagine having to tell his mum he's been fired for an inappropriate relationship with a much younger man when her other son has just gone to jail on underage sex charges.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Phillip Schofield embracing his elderly mother
after he was sacked from the show.
The 61-year-old was seen hugging his mother
Pat, 87, on a bench overlooking the sea in
Newquay, Cornwall, last month]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/04/19/71753755-0-image-a-41_1685904622413.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12158071/Axed-Morning-star-Philip-Schofield-pictured-embracing-mother-87-bench-Cornwall.html

SO set up by his PR

sickening

[user104658]

Relentless attacks on someones character never bothered him before. What's he worried about?

He's just worried that it'll take everyone's energy and focus away from the true villains in all of this; Harry and Meghan.

[bots]

the whole thing is beyond ridiculous now. Those photos with his mum are beyond belief. Not only did he exploit a really young boy, he is now exploiting a really old woman, for his personal gain

[Oliver_W]

Schofield's story sounds sketchy in itself, and I believe something happened with the boy was much younger.
Nah. There have been no real accusations of that, and crimes aren't covered by NDAs.

I personally cannot put myself in that mind set ,I could never tutor or watch someone grow up and then want to start " dating" . It's inappropriate and wrong . Plus the whole abuse of power.
It's called grooming.

[user104658]

Nah. There have been no real accusations of that, and crimes aren't covered by NDAs.


I think there's potentially info that makes it clearer (to those who it isn't already) that the relationship trajectory was inappropriate from the start.

[bots]

Phil's gone, he wont be on our screens again, It's unlikely he will ever see the inside of a court room. I'm more interested in ITV and what they covered up

[Liam-]

the whole thing is beyond ridiculous now. Those photos with his mum are beyond belief. Not only did he exploit a really young boy, he is now exploiting a really old woman, for his personal gain

It literally says those photos were taken last month, before all of this came out

[arista]

SO set up by his PR

sickening


Yes
his poor old 87-year-old Mother
being used.

[user104658]

Phil's gone, he wont be on our screens again, It's unlikely he will ever see the inside of a court room. I'm more interested in ITV and what they covered up

I agree, I think Philip is the tip of the iceberg with ITV and the longer focus is on him the less likely it is that anyone digs deeper.

[joeysteele]

Yes
his poor old 87-year-old Mother
being used.

That is really sick.
Why have his Mum splashed out in the press.

Her own world has come crashing down as to her 2 sons.

Sick.

[Oliver_W]

I think there's potentially info that makes it clearer (to those who it isn't already) that the relationship trajectory was inappropriate from the start.

Oh I agree that MM was groomed and that Phil had the "endgame" planned for a long time, but I also think he carefully kept it on the right side of the law.

I definitely think he groomed him, as all evidence points to that, but I don't think there was statutory rape.

[Oliver_W]

That is really sick.
Why have his Mum splashed out in the press.

Her own world has come crashing down as to her 2 sons.

Sick.

Welcome to tabloids.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/05/09/71772017-12160031-image-a-50_1685955364923.jpg


That was a few mins Holly
then she moved on fast

Then hug the Tubby co presenter



BBCnewsHD showing it - Why Do That?


BBC Radio 5 playing her - Why Do That.?



Good on LBC - Not Doing her

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/05/09/71684867-12160031-Phillip_Schofield_with_his_wife_Stephanie_Lowe_and _daughters_Mol-a-33_1685955075870.jpg
[Phillip Schofield with his wife Stephanie Lowe
and daughters Molly and Ruby in London in 2018]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12160031/Holly-Willoughby-returns-Morning-Phillip-Schofields-exit.html

[arista]

How Clever of the Producer

Brought in a Young Lad
One Good Eye who is raising money for a Charity.

Holly handed the young lad a bag of Gifts

[joeysteele]

Welcome to tabloids.

I dislike all the press and their procedures.

Why put the Mum into a position where that photo could get into the press.
Keep things like that for only indoors.
How did they get that photo?

The media are a disgrace, was his 87 year old Mum asked even could they use that pic?

The media however do have their positive uses too.
Unfortunately but especially where wrong has been done.
Without the media would we have learned of the scandalous MPs expenses issue.

I wouldn't waste a pence on a so called newspaper publication.
However in murky waters, sometimes the media has its uses.

Like too with the horrible killers of Jame''s Bulger.
Without the media, it would not be known as to their new identities or when new offending was done after any release back into the community.

[thesheriff443]

It literally says those photos were taken last month, before all of this came out

He drove to her on the day he had to leave itv or he was going to be sacked

He is telling her why he has had to walk away from his job because of him shagging a teenager and lying about it.

Or do you think he is telling her the milk has gone off:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/DavidMackayy/status/1665645804659306497?s=20

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/MartinDavisMC1/status/1665662246049964032?s=20

[bots]

it's complete cringe, all read from the auto-cue :laugh:

[arista]

https://twitter.com/MartinDavisMC1/status/1665662246049964032?s=20


Clever Baby

[Zizu]

it's complete cringe, all read from the auto-cue :laugh:


That’s pretty standard isn’t it though ?


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[Zizu]

https://twitter.com/DavidMackayy/status/1665645804659306497?s=20


Can’t see much wrong with that ‘opening gambit’ to be honest .. we could have predicted most of that between ourselves.

She was nervous as you’d expect …


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[joeysteele]

https://twitter.com/MartinDavisMC1/status/1665662246049964032?s=20

One of your best ever posts on an issue is that.:joker:

Very well done.

[Alf]

The bias that you already believe he’s guilty of some sort of grooming of a child, so you’re obviously going to pick out whatever you can to back that opinion up

It’s understandable because everybody wants to be right when they believe something, but I think in situations like these where there’s no evidence or an actual accusation, it’s a bit unfair to do soAnd of course, you spoke up for Andrew Tate when he was being accused and persecuted for that with zero evidence, didn't you. Or did your bias get in the way?

[Oliver_W]

The bias that you already believe he’s guilty of some sort of grooming of a child, so you’re obviously going to pick out whatever you can to back that opinion up

What is your understanding of grooming?

How can you think he didn't groom MM, when it's been outlined by several posters?

[user104658]

What is your understanding of grooming?

How can you think he didn't groom MM, when it's been outlined by several posters?

It's fairly clear that there's an incorrect perception that "grooming" is "to catch a predator"-style approaching of an underage person with the intent of sexual activity and that if Philip didn't do that, then he didn't groom MM.

And a persistent, stubborn refusal to understand or admit that that's just one form of grooming.

I genuinely blame "The Stonewall Method" for a lot of this infuriating tactic. "If you don't like the information presented, just ignore it entirely and carry on".

[Beso]

How Clever of the Producer

Brought in a Young Lad
One Good Eye who is raising money for a Charity.

Holly handed the young lad a bag of Gifts

More grooming.

[Beso]

[Phillip Schofield embracing his elderly mother
after he was sacked from the show.
The 61-year-old was seen hugging his mother
Pat, 87, on a bench overlooking the sea in
Newquay, Cornwall, last month]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/04/19/71753755-0-image-a-41_1685904622413.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12158071/Axed-Morning-star-Philip-Schofield-pictured-embracing-mother-87-bench-Cornwall.html



Saville was very close to his mum.

[arista]

Now Live all 3 News Channels
Parliament Committee


The ITV CEO has asked her assistant to give the timeline

[arista]

The Lad Matt is referred as person X


The ITV CEO Carolyn McCall
claims she had no evidence at the time,

they were asking questions

[bots]

Dame Carolyn has just been asked about an earlier mention of "person X" being asked about the affair 12 times, and whether that amounts to an interrogation.

The questions were asked over a long period of time, she says, "not in one go".

There were a couple of formal meetings had with HR, but there were multiple informal meetings.

"The motive was to help person X" as the rumours were rife with inappropriateness at the time, which is why he was asked.

He had a good relationship with someone in production he trusts, Dame Carolyn says, and this person was the one saying "if we can help, please say anything".

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If he was asked 12 times, i think they could have drawn their own conclusions :laugh:

[UserSince2005]

If holly thinks shes got away with this then she can think again.

[Cherie]

Lets face it if Phils bro wasn't arrested and convicted, this would be a non story, its interesting how it all went away 2 years ago only to return once his brother went to court

[arista]

[Phillip Schofield looks glum as
he’s spotted amid reports his ex-lover will
‘have his say’ over affair in ITV probe]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/22775241/phillip-schofield-looks-glum-spotted-ex-lover/

Good Younger Matt
can tell ITV what it was like
having sex with the TV presenter
in the dressing room.

[Kate!]

[Phillip Schofield looks glum as
he’s spotted amid reports his ex-lover will
‘have his say’ over affair in ITV probe]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/22775241/phillip-schofield-looks-glum-spotted-ex-lover/

Good Younger Matt
can tell ITV what it was like
having sex with the TV presenter
in the dressing room.

Finally! Spill the tea Matthew.

[arista]

Finally! Spill the tea Matthew.


Yes he is innocent

[Zizu]

Slight tangent


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[Glenn.]

Still waiting for these grooming allegations to come into existence…

[bots]

the grooming is clear for anyone not pre-indoctrinated to see

[Crimson Dynamo]

Still waiting for these grooming allegations to come into existence…

i "think" you mean

Philth has not been proved in a court of law that he groomed the small boy he groomed?

either that or the word allegation is new to you

[user104658]

Still waiting for these grooming allegations to come into existence…

Nah you're not.

[Glenn.]

No criminal charges or accusations have been brought forward… like I say, still waiting.

[user104658]

No criminal charges or accusations have been brought forward… like I say, still waiting.

Grooming of a young adult is not a criminal offense so you're going to be waiting for a long time.

You said "allegations" but if you're moving the goal-posts that's a different discussion.

[Glenn.]

Same same.

[Oliver_W]

Same same.

What is your understanding of grooming?

How do Phillip's documented actions not align with grooming?

[user104658]

Same same.

It isn't but the comprehension failure explains your confusion well enough.

[user104658]

What is your understanding of grooming?

How do Phillip's documented actions not align with grooming?

This is where Glenn posts a video of To Catch A Predator.

It's BS though because I suspect Glenn understands, for example, that Andrew Tate groomed the women (adult women) he sexually exploited. Suddenly it makes sense then.

[thesheriff443]

Unfortunately some in the gay community don’t have a problem with old men with grey pubs and saggy ball sacks taking advantage of young gay men.

We all know rent boys are acceptable in the gay community.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8f00b0ba-f559-4c1c-8472-375076762aba.png

[UserSince2005]

I’m a celebrity please, but make sure not to put any young boys in the jungle with him

[arista]

I’m a celebrity please, but make sure not to put any young boys in the jungle with him


Doubt that.

[arista]

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BBC News Text :
[The Sun reports on This Morning losing out
on the National Television Awards' Daytime TV
award for the first time in over a decade.]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/02/17/21/81398391-0-image-a-105_1708206948062.jpg


[Phillip Schofield paid his young lover
a six-figure sum with a gagging clause
that 'means the disgraced This Morning
presenter knows his ex can never speak
about their relationship... so he will sleep
a lot better']

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13095933/Phillip-Schofield-paid-young-lover-gagging-clause.html

[Beso]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/02/17/21/81398391-0-image-a-105_1708206948062.jpg


[Phillip Schofield paid his young lover
a six-figure sum with a gagging clause
that 'means the disgraced This Morning
presenter knows his ex can never speak
about their relationship... so he will sleep
a lot better']

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13095933/Phillip-Schofield-paid-young-lover-gagging-clause.html

Alone hopefully.

[UserSince2005]

We need a sex tape desperately

[Cherie]

Seems wrong that Phil got to give his side of the story but Matthew is gagged, but that is how having money protects you

[Crimson Dynamo]

disgusting pervert

hopefully he is never seen again

[bots]

the wealthy do it all the time. Everyone complains about Trump and all the crap he has done, but they are all exactly the same

[Oliver_W]

If CBB was still on C5, I'm almost certain at least one of them would end up in the House.

[Ninastar]

So I don’t live in the UK anymore… I heard about this a while back.

Wtf actually happened? His brother was accused then people accused him?

[bots]

So I don’t live in the UK anymore… I heard about this a while back.

Wtf actually happened? His brother was accused then people accused him?
sort of, he then got caught grooming an underage kid, getting him a job on the show etc and having sex with him. Now he has wrapped him up in an NDA so he can't say anything