Russell Brand allegations - Channel 4 Dispatches & Sunday Times

[Crimson Dynamo]

whataboutwhatabout

I think its a very good question to ask to see if YOutube have the balls for it

middle aged white bloke = low hanging fruit

lets see them get the step-ladder out

[Kazanne]

A YouTube channel that I watch called SomeOrdinaryGamers has spoke about Animal Abuse videos on YouTube in the past, you'd probably like his content because he does try to report these sick cases to the YouTube Moderators.

He also tries to deal with Paedophilia as well.

You Tube need to STOP these videos being shown Mocky ,they can obviously do it as proved by the Brand banning, how perverse do these videos have to be for the You Tube moderators to do something ? I believe some are just vile.:wavey:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Mystic Mock]

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So the B stands for Benzodiazepines.

[Mystic Mock]

You Tube need to STOP these videos being shown Mocky ,they can obviously do it as proved by the Brand banning, how perverse do these videos have to be for the You Tube moderators to do something ? I believe some are just vile.:wavey:

I think that YouTube doesn't bother unfortunately unless people mass report the crime happening on the website, or is a high profile case like Russell Brand.

I do agree with you though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCNRcoQxfabvUAULNbIy7qPg

R Kelly YOuTube music channel

:skull:

[Crimson Dynamo]

yeah, did you know this sh1t goes on ?

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[Crimson Dynamo]

get them telt :clap1:

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[arista]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12542873/Police-unit-set-Jimmy-Savile-scandal-probe-Russell-Brand-case-woman-comes-forward-claim-comedian-switched-nasty-refused-sex-locked-dressing-room.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

deffo not a hit job...:whistle:

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[Crimson Dynamo]

:whistle:

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[Cherie]

Tbf they do seem to be going in on him, given he has not been charged with anything .....

[user104658]

As before and as always; it can be both.

I find it difficult to believe it's a "hit job" because he's so influential and saying things that are so new (it's just not the case... he's just another of a thousand Social Media influencers trotting out the same Truther shyte).

I am MORE WILLING to believe that the story is being overblown as a distraction tactic: it does seem to be being turned into something far bigger than the myriad of other celebrity sex scandals, for no real reason that I can think of. It's not surprising and not shocking news about Brand. I saw a clip of a comedian on TikkyTok last night about this that really made me laugh (for it's truth) ... he said that the weirdest thing about the Brand stuff is that we're supposed to be surprised, as "Brand looked like what you'd get if you handed a child a bunch of crayons and asked them to draw a Bad Man" :joker: ... and it's true. When it comes down to it, we all bloody knew what he was and that there would be skeletons.


However as I said it can be both. All of the above can be true, with the allegations against him still being true. Rather than saying that it's all made up (just highly unlikely given how much would need to be soordinated to make that happen) - I find it more believable to suggest that the allegations are real, but that these journalists have known about Brand for a decade or longer, and that they've not considered it particularly important to bother really pursuing.

So in short; It can be the case that it's a media "hit job", but that it's rooted in things that he actually did (that have been swept under the rug for many years).

[arista]

https://twitter.com/JeremyVineOn5/status/1704797134438994097

[bots]

As before and as always; it can be both.

I find it difficult to believe it's a "hit job" because he's so influential and saying things that are so new (it's just not the case... he's just another of a thousand Social Media influencers trotting out the same Truther shyte).

I am MORE WILLING to believe that the story is being overblown as a distraction tactic: it does seem to be being turned into something far bigger than the myriad of other celebrity sex scandals, for no real reason that I can think of. It's not surprising and not shocking news about Brand. I saw a clip of a comedian on TikkyTok last night about this that really made me laugh (for it's truth) ... he said that the weirdest thing about the Brand stuff is that we're supposed to be surprised, as "Brand looked like what you'd get if you handed a child a bunch of crayons and asked them to draw a Bad Man" :joker: ... and it's true. When it comes down to it, we all bloody knew what he was and that there would be skeletons.


However as I said it can be both. All of the above can be true, with the allegations against him still being true. Rather than saying that it's all made up (just highly unlikely given how much would need to be soordinated to make that happen) - I find it more believable to suggest that the allegations are real, but that these journalists have known about Brand for a decade or longer, and that they've not considered it particularly important to bother really pursuing.

So in short; It can be the case that it's a media "hit job", but that it's rooted in things that he actually did (that have been swept under the rug for many years).

it reminds me of a teacher we had at school. Every kid in the school knew that he liked to fiddle with little boys, so when you got the line "would you like to come to me place after school for some extra lessons" everyone was ready with the **** off!! However, in that case it took at least 7 years until anything was done about him and the number of back cases was probably very large

[user104658]

I've been advocating for a staggered age of consent for more than a decade; would very much welcome this as a change to the law.

I don't think it needs to be raised - if anything I'd lower the age for decriminalisation for same-age teens (I don't think it's a good idea for 14 year olds to be sexually active, but it happens and shouldn't be a crime if it's with someone the same age or close in age) - but there needs to be a mechanism in place that puts a stop to large age gaps under the age of 21. The possibility (in fact likelihood) of manipulation of vulnerable young adults is just far too high.

[Niamh.]

I've been advocating for a staggered age of consent for more than a decade; would very much welcome this as a change to the law.

I don't think it needs to be raised - if anything I'd lower the age for decriminalisation for same-age teens (I don't think it's a good idea for 14 year olds to be sexually active, but it happens and shouldn't be a crime if it's with someone the same age or close in age) - but there needs to be a mechanism in place that puts a stop to large age gaps under the age of 21. The possibility (in fact likelihood) of manipulation of vulnerable young adults is just far too high.Definitely a good idea

[arista]

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USA debate Brand
but most USA media say take it to the court,
before the press

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Conservative Government actively leading the way to cancel a celebrity based on some allegations made on a TV programme

you could not make it up

:skull:

and Piers agrees

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[bots]

it's not much different to what the bank did to farage in reality

[The Slim Reaper]

I've been advocating for a staggered age of consent for more than a decade; would very much welcome this as a change to the law.

I don't think it needs to be raised - if anything I'd lower the age for decriminalisation for same-age teens (I don't think it's a good idea for 14 year olds to be sexually active, but it happens and shouldn't be a crime if it's with someone the same age or close in age) - but there needs to be a mechanism in place that puts a stop to large age gaps under the age of 21. The possibility (in fact likelihood) of manipulation of vulnerable young adults is just far too high.

I think you have a case between 16-18, but once someone is paying full taxes, and is deemed by the state to be a "full adult", then it gets very purity police real quick.

[Oliver_W]

I'd rather it just be raised to 18 with no caveats, but that would never fly.

[bots]

I'd rather it just be raised to 18 with no caveats, but that would never fly.

it actually boils down to money at the end of the day. It puts more pressure on the state to treat people as children past the age of 16, so it will never fly

[user104658]

I think you have a case between 16-18, but once someone is paying full taxes, and is deemed by the state to be a "full adult", then it gets very purity police real quick.

Maybe, in terms of actual legality, but I reserve the right to state that anyone aged 25 or over pursuing 18 year olds is either dodgy or immature themselves, and anyone 30 or over pursuing 18 year olds is just a plain old nonce.

[Oliver_W]

it actually boils down to money at the end of the day. It puts more pressure on the state to treat people as children past the age of 16, so it will never fly

People under 18 can't vote, die for their country, smoke or drink, get married without parental permission, or even leave education now.

Adding another couple of years of protection from perves has no extra infantilisation or cost.

[Oliver_W]

Maybe, in terms of actual legality, but I reserve the right to state that anyone aged 25 or over pursuing 18 year olds is either dodgy or immature themselves, and anyone 30 or over pursuing 18 year olds is just a plain old nonce.
A bit irrel but I think this should apply no matter what the gender combination. It was no better when it was Caroline Flack and Harry Styles, and it's gross when boys abused by female teachers get called "lucky" and people "wish they had teachers like that" ...

But yeah, no matter how old-looking or "mature" the sixteen year old was, she was still a child, and anything else being considered, how could Brand actually be okay with sleeping with someone who got picked up from school?

[bots]

People under 18 can't vote, die for their country, smoke or drink, get married without parental permission, or even leave education now.

Adding another couple of years of protection from perves has no extra infantilisation or cost.

of course it does. Families get all sorts of payments for children, and that would be for an extra 2 years. The NHS and social services would have to treat the same as children for longer putting more pressure on nhs funding and social care. And the list goes on. Everything always boils down to money. Why do you think they are increasing retirement age over time? Money. No other reason

[user104658]

A bit irrel but I think this should apply no matter what the gender combination. It was no better when it was Caroline Flack and Harry Styles, and it's gross when boys abused by female teachers get called "lucky" and people "wish they had teachers like that" ...

But yeah, no matter how old-looking or "mature" the sixteen year old was, she was still a child, and anything else being considered, how could Brand actually be okay with sleeping with someone who got picked up from school?

No I agree, and generally the only real difference in the end is how long it takes for males to start feeling weird about it. (In general, and for societal reasons) girls will be upset and feel "used" as soon as the abuser inevitably breaks it off, boys will carry on feeling like they were a "top shagger" for many years, but generally once they reach 35+ they start realising they were used/abused as a naive teenager and do have very negative feelings about it.

A mate of mine had a 6 month long fling with a 48 year old woman when we were 17. He bragged about it for YEARS, but feels pretty gross about the whole thing now that he's nearing 40 himself. I think you start to look back, then look around and see how bloody young a 17 year old lad actually looks (you don't feel like that at the time), and realise that it's all a bit messed up.

She had a son just a year younger too :umm2:. Messy stuff.

[arista]

People under 18 can't vote, die for their country, smoke or drink, get married without parental permission, or even leave education now.

Adding another couple of years of protection from perves has no extra infantilisation or cost.



Starmer is changing it
to 16 years old can vote.

He wants to stay in power
if he wins the General Election

[Niamh.]

No I agree, and generally the only real difference in the end is how long it takes for males to start feeling weird about it. (In general, and for societal reasons) girls will be upset and feel "used" as soon as the abuser inevitably breaks it off, boys will carry on feeling like they were a "top shagger" for many years, but generally once they reach 35+ they start realising they were used/abused as a naive teenager and do have very negative feelings about it.

A mate of mine had a 6 month long fling with a 48 year old woman when we were 17. He bragged about it for YEARS, but feels pretty gross about the whole thing now that he's nearing 40 himself. I think you start to look back, then look around and see how bloody young a 17 year old lad actually looks (you don't feel like that at the time), and realise that it's all a bit messed up.

She had a son just a year younger too :umm2:. Messy stuff.

I think if you have a son you'd definitely view it the same no matter what sex is involved. I would certainly have been equally angry if a 31 year old started something with my son or my daughter when they were 17

[user104658]

of course it does. Families get all sorts of payments for children, and that would be for an extra 2 years. The NHS and social services would have to treat the same as children for longer putting more pressure on nhs funding and social care. And the list goes on. Everything always boils down to money. Why do you think they are increasing retirement age over time? Money. No other reason

Most family benefits etc. are already up to 18. There are some things in social care and the NHS that end/transition to adult services at 16 (mental health services, social work etc.) but... well... that's also shameful and leads to terrible outcomes for those kids - they SHOULD continue until 18. It's not even a money issue... ultimately it would end up costing less, as fewer kids abandoned at 16 means fewer adults needing ongoing mental health care. Making sure kids in care are set up at 18, even up to 21, would save the government a tonne of money in the long run.

[user104658]

I think if you have a son you'd definitely view it the same no matter what sex is involved. I would certainly have been equally angry if a 31 year old started something with my son or my daughter when they were 17

Yeah he does have a son now too (he's 7 or 8) - I highly doubt my friend will be congratulating him and patting him on the back if he gets involved with a 50 year old when he's in his late teens.

[The Slim Reaper]

Maybe, in terms of actual legality, but I reserve the right to state that anyone aged 25 or over pursuing 18 year olds is either dodgy or immature themselves, and anyone 30 or over pursuing 18 year olds is just a plain old nonce.

You have the right to state your own opinion. I think when we take a wider look at societies with creeping authoritarianism, then these are the kinds of issues that become really important. I know these are your longstanding views, and aren't dependant on what is currently happening in society, but I'm just relating them to what is happening around the world.

Women should be allowed to make their own choices as adults, and if those "relationships" are either predatory or coercive, then laws already exist to deal with them. If a person is already a predator, then an additional law isn't going to stop them. I completely disagree with your definition of a nonce.

You're fully aware that you have really conservative social values (your issue with porn is personally bizarre to me, but you get that it's a personal view), and you're also aware that they are your views alone, and even at times are too conservative to be classed as inside the conservative mainstream.

So in short, I disagree with you majorly on the points I've raised, but I think that 16-18 is valid, and we're just spit balling here because neither you or I have the power to do anything with our opinions.

[user104658]

If those "relationships" are either predatory or coercive, then laws already exist to deal with them.

Sadly, this simply never happens. The laws may exist in theory ... but I'm not saying they "rarely work" - I'm saying it literally never happens. Above the age of consent, a predatory adult will never face any sort of legal consequences for entering into a manipulative/coercive relationship with a young adult over the age of 16. Very very sadly, but there's no point trying to work with anything but the reality.

[Cherie]

of course it does. Families get all sorts of payments for children, and that would be for an extra 2 years. The NHS and social services would have to treat the same as children for longer putting more pressure on nhs funding and social care. And the list goes on. Everything always boils down to money. Why do you think they are increasing retirement age over time? Money. No other reason

pretty sure all those payments carry on until 18 or beyond as long as they remain in education (not Uni) also the NHS cut off age for paediatrics is 18

[Niamh.]

pretty sure all those payments carry on until 18 or beyond as long as they remain in education (not Uni) also the NHS cut off age for paediatrics is 18

They definitely do in Ireland anyway, for Children's allowance you just need to get the school to sign to say that the child is still in full time education

[thesheriff443]

A padlock only keeps honest people out



The facts are some girls are attracted to older men

[The Slim Reaper]

Sadly, this simply never happens. The laws may exist in theory ... but I'm not saying they "rarely work" - I'm saying it literally never happens. Above the age of consent, a predatory adult will never face any sort of legal consequences for entering into a manipulative/coercive relationship with a young adult over the age of 16. Very very sadly, but there's no point trying to work with anything but the reality.

But proving those crimes with any age is also near impossible unless clear evidence exists. I think you have really good ideas around decriminalising 14yr olds being with each other, I just disagree with it when it gets really close to purity policing (I respect your personal views on the matter, and this is my personal view).

The only solution when it comes to implementing your views seems to be raising the age of consent to either 18 or 21, because staggered ages of consent seems pretty unworkable/unrealistic, and the more areas of uncertainty the law provides, the easier it is for predators to take advantage.

Just to be clear, I'd hate if a close family member of mine was 18 and entered into a relationship with a +30yr old, but I don't think my personal distatse is a reason to criminalise more people.

[user104658]

But proving those crimes with any age is also near impossible unless clear evidence exists. I think you have really good ideas around decriminalising 14yr olds being with each other, I just disagree with it when it gets really close to purity policing (I respect your personal views on the matter, and this is my personal view).

The only solution when it comes to implementing your views seems to be raising the age of consent to either 18 or 21, because staggered ages of consent seems pretty unworkable/unrealistic, and the more areas of uncertainty the law provides, the easier it is for predators to take advantage.

Just to be clear, I'd hate if a close family member of mine was 18 and entered into a relationship with a +30yr old, but I don't think my personal distatse is a reason to criminalise more people.

Ultimately the simplest solution would be to raise the age of adult consent to 18 (which is in line with most other thinking on what constitutes an adult in law) whilst decriminalising sex close-in-age under 18 which is, in practice if not officially, pretty much how it currently works with under-16's.

I do still personally think 18 is on the young side, however there's a vast difference between an 18 year old and a 16 year old so I think it's a fairly sensible compromise: again, especially given that we currently mark "18 as adulthood" in general thinking anyway.

FWIW marriage at 16 is also bizarre in concept, especially as it's basically a contract, and you have to be 18 for most contracts to be properly binding :think:. So I would raise the age for marriage to 18 as well.

[Niamh.]

Ultimately the simplest solution would be to raise the age of adult consent to 18 (which is in line with most other thinking on what constitutes an adult in law) whilst decriminalising sex close-in-age under 18 which is, in practice if not officially, pretty much how it currently works with under-16's.

I do still personally think 18 is on the young side, however there's a vast difference between an 18 year old and a 16 year old so I think it's a fairly sensible compromise: again, especially given that we currently mark "18 as adulthood" in general thinking anyway.

FWIW marriage at 16 is also bizarre in concept, especially as it's basically a contract, and you have to be 18 for most contracts to be properly binding :think:. So I would raise the age for marriage to 18 as well.

It's already been raised in the UK I think (I don't think it was ever legal in Ireland under 18) the parental consent thing was weird as **** too, why is it OK if your parents say yes? 16 is either too young or it's not

The Marriage and Civil Partnership (Minimum Age) Act 2022, which gained Royal Assent in April last year, has come into force today (27 February). It means that 16 and 17 year olds will no longer be allowed to marry or enter a civil partnership, even if they have parental consent.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/legal-age-of-marriage-in-england-and-wales-rises-to-18#:~:text=The%20Marriage%20and%20Civil%20Partners hip,if%20they%20have%20parental%20consent.

[user104658]

It's already been raised in the UK I think (I don't think it was ever legal in Ireland under 18) the parental consent thing was weird as **** too, why is it OK if your parents say yes? 16 is either too young or it not

The Marriage and Civil Partnership (Minimum Age) Act 2022, which gained Royal Assent in April last year, has come into force today (27 February). It means that 16 and 17 year olds will no longer be allowed to marry or enter a civil partnership, even if they have parental consent.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/legal-age-of-marriage-in-england-and-wales-rises-to-18#:~:text=The%20Marriage%20and%20Civil%20Partners hip,if%20they%20have%20parental%20consent.

Ahj I didn't know that - that's something at least.

I think an adult consent age of 18 is perhaps inevitable at this point then, as I suspect part of the reason it IS 16 is because the legal age for marriage was 16.

[The Slim Reaper]

Ultimately the simplest solution would be to raise the age of adult consent to 18 (which is in line with most other thinking on what constitutes an adult in law) whilst decriminalising sex close-in-age under 18 which is, in practice if not officially, pretty much how it currently works with under-16's.

I do still personally think 18 is on the young side, however there's a vast difference between an 18 year old and a 16 year old so I think it's a fairly sensible compromise: again, especially given that we currently mark "18 as adulthood" in general thinking anyway.

FWIW marriage at 16 is also bizarre in concept, especially as it's basically a contract, and you have to be 18 for most contracts to be properly binding :think:. So I would raise the age for marriage to 18 as well.

Raising the age to 18 seems completely ridiculous to me, and is creating a a solution in need of a problem, but I appreciate it's your opinion. I'm closer to you on marriage being raised, because that's supposed to be a lifetime contract. Experimenting sexually in our teens isn't a lifetime contract, and is a healthy part of growing up and finding out who we are.

[Cherie]

They definitely do in Ireland anyway, for Children's allowance you just need to get the school to sign to say that the child is still in full time education

Mrs BOTs has told him payments stopped years ago :fan:

[Niamh.]

Mrs BOTs has told him payments stopped years ago :fan:

:laugh:

[bots]

:laugh:

[arista]

https://twitter.com/unapologetic_cm/status/1703214884421345638

[Alf]

Remember when Julian Assange was suddenly accused of rape after he exposed the elites?

Assange is still being detained, not because of any rape, not because he lied against any government, but because he told the truth.

[user104658]

Raising the age to 18 seems completely ridiculous to me, and is creating a solution in need of a problem, but I appreciate it's your opinion. I'm closer to you on marriage being raised, because that's supposed to be a lifetime contract. Experimenting sexually in our teens isn't a lifetime contract, and is a healthy part of growing up and finding out who we are.

I'd say there's a fairly evident problem when adult men (and we're talking 40, 50 year old men here, not guys in their 20's) are openly and legally in sexual relationships with 16 year old girls ... it's only not a problem if you don't think there's much of a difference between a 16 yer old and an 18 year old when IMO there is a very clear difference, perhaps one of the biggest age differences in the shortest space of time of any age (excluding perhaps 3 - 5, and 11 - 13).

I do fully agree that teenage experimentation is normal and healthy but that experimentation, to BE normal and healthy, has to be with other young people ... not with full-grown adults with mortgages. In an ideal world that wouldn't have to be legislated for and responsible adults would simply understand that, but that's not the real world, and in the real world teenage girls are being exploited constantly. It's not even vaguely a "rare thing" and the people affected do not grow up with normal and healthy mindsets in the slightest, they usually end up in lifelong patterns of control and abuse.

[Alf]

Have you been duped by the mainstream again? I did try warning you. You just don't or won't listen.


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[Niamh.]

Have you been duped by the mainstream again? I did try warning you. You just don't or won't listen.


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If a man has sex with you without a condom when he tells you he's using one, that's classed as rape fyi and I'm shocked that woman is defending Russell there

[user104658]

Have you been duped by the mainstream again? I did try warning you. You just don't or won't listen.


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Alf I don't know if you need to hear this (I don't know if you're sexually active or not) but just in case, I shall put it in bold for you, and for the lady in the video:

Telling a sexual partner you're using a condom and then either secretly not using one, or removing it during sex, is sexual assault and 100% illegal.

It's important that everyone understands this. THe lady in the video, clearly doesn't know what she's talking about. If you watch the documentary there was never any question of "duping" or people not knowing that these messages were about condom use and not forced sex. The documentary makes that clear.

It is a form of sexual assault.

I'm horrified that people don't know that, or think that it isn't.

[user104658]

Just to add (because again, I think half the people branding all of this a conspiracy clearly haven't even watched the documentary) the VAST MAJORITY of what Brand is accused of, is assaulting or being abusive towards originally-consenting sexual partners. There is only one (of the five) who talks about forced penetration/completely nonconsensual sex. The rest talk about him being too rough, not stopping when asked to stop (yes this is still rape), and coercive/manipulative behaviour.

[Alf]

Alf I don't know if you need to hear this (I don't know if you're sexually active or not) but just in case, I shall put it in bold for you, and for the lady in the video:

Telling a sexual partner you're using a condom and then either secretly not using one, or removing it during sex, is sexual assault and 100% illegal.

It's important that everyone understands this. THe lady in the video, clearly doesn't know what she's talking about. If you watch the documentary there was never any question of "duping" or people not knowing that these messages were about condom use and not forced sex. The documentary makes that clear.

It is a form of sexual assault.

I'm horrified that people don't know that, or think that it isn't.Where does it say that he secretly removed it?

You made that bit up, didn't you?

It could have been that they both were intoxicated, got it on and then regretted it the morning.

Did you think of that scenario?

[Zizu]

I'd rather it just be raised to 18 with no caveats, but that would never fly.


Same


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[Zizu]

Starmer is changing it
to 16 years old can vote.

He wants to stay in power
if he wins the General Election


Many of the 16 year olds don’t know what day it is …literally


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[arista]

Many of the 16 year olds don’t know what day it is …literally



Of course

[Zizu]

A padlock only keeps honest people out



The facts are some girls are attracted to older men


Guess it falls on their parents to parent ..


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[thesheriff443]

Guess it falls on their parents to parent ..


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Nothing to do with parents
Also raising the age of consent is bollox
It won’t stop rape at any age
It won’t stop teenagers sleeping with older men by choice

We can’t convict know rapist let alone adding another law that will have no impact in solving sex crimes

Also not every person male or female are losing their virginity at 16 or before.

[thesheriff443]

Also you can have a 14 year old raping another 14 year old so that idea is sh1t as well
Thinking sex at the same age should be legal

[arista]

BBC claims
Olivia was in the bathroom/bog
at the BBC as he pulled his Penis Out.

Brand went on Radio 2
talking about it.


A BBC reporter in LA
spoke to Olivia.

This was in 2008.




BBC1HD 6PM News
started with this New Brand Report.

[user104658]

Where does it say that he secretly removed it?

You made that bit up, didn't you?

It could have been that they both were intoxicated, got it on and then regretted it the morning.

Did you think of that scenario?

The text clearly says "When a girl says no, it means no" and talks about getting tested, so best case scenario it means he didn't stop/use a condom when she said to. Worst case scenario, she's saying he straight up forced her. Being a Trump fan isn't an excuse for being a rape apologist Alf.

[Cherie]

Also you can have a 14 year old raping another 14 year old so that idea is sh1t as well
Thinking sex at the same age should be legal

what, it's still rape? forcing yourself on someone against their wishes is rape at any age

[thesheriff443]

what, it's still rape? forcing yourself on someone against their wishes is rape at any age

If you say it’s legal for same age kids to have sex then make it easier for the rapist to say it was consensual

[GiRTh]

I can't back Brand due to the 'They're all out to get me' stance that he's gone for right from the start. The way he talks so openly about his promiscuity and drug taking makes me think these allegations are likely to be true. However, they will be virtually impossible to prove.

The self-righteousness and self-importance of BRand's stance show a certain arrogance to his character that is difficult to like. He's a popular comedian, blogger and podcaster nothing more. Does has arrogantly think the establishment/deep state/Iluminati or whoever are seriously worried he is going lead an uprising of the downtrodden and oppressed ? HE needs to have a word with himself

[Mystic Mock]

https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCNRcoQxfabvUAULNbIy7qPg

R Kelly YOuTube music channel

:skull:

After the Show it's the after party.

I couldn't resist typing that lyric out.

[Mystic Mock]

I've been advocating for a staggered age of consent for more than a decade; would very much welcome this as a change to the law.

I don't think it needs to be raised - if anything I'd lower the age for decriminalisation for same-age teens (I don't think it's a good idea for 14 year olds to be sexually active, but it happens and shouldn't be a crime if it's with someone the same age or close in age) - but there needs to be a mechanism in place that puts a stop to large age gaps under the age of 21. The possibility (in fact likelihood) of manipulation of vulnerable young adults is just far too high.

I think 18 like America isn't a bad idea.

Because at 18 you're allowed to do pretty much anything else.

[Niamh.]

The text clearly says "When a girl says no, it means no" and talks about getting tested, so best case scenario it means he didn't stop/use a condom when she said to. Worst case scenario, she's saying he straight up forced her. Being a Trump fan isn't an excuse for being a rape apologist Alf.I'm just watching the show now and seen her part, he straight up raped her, she's the 9ne who went to the rape crisis centre afterwards and they have a record of it

[Alf]

I'm just watching the show now and seen her part, he straight up raped her, she's the 9ne who went to the rape crisis centre afterwards and they have a record of itWas he arrested?

If not, why not? And if not then the authorities are complicit in the rape, surely?

[Niamh.]

Was he arrested?



If not, why not? And if not then the authorities are complicit in the rape, surely?If you'd watched the show you'd have all those answers, she did go to the rape crisis centre right after, she didn't report it to the Police though as she was scared because he was a big celebrity and she didn't want to put herself and her family through it which is pretty understandable. The crisis centre confirmed all that too

[Alf]

If you'd watched the show you'd have all those answers, she did go to the rape crisis centre right after, she didn't report it to the Police though as she was scared because he was a big celebrity and she didn't want to put herself and her family through it which is pretty understandable. The crisis centre confirmed all that tooWell I didn't watch it, that's why I'm asking you?

[Alf]

By the way Neem. That Candice Owens "Making a murderer" series I mentioned last month has started. I think there's been 2 of 10 episodes so far. I haven't watched yet. I believe it's on Daily Wire.

[Niamh.]

Well I didn't watch it, that's why I'm asking you?You should watch it since you have so much opinions on things that were featured on it, it would be helpful for you

[Alf]

You should watch it since you have so much opinions on things that were featured on it, it would be helpful for youIt's mainstream media isn't it? They're the people that covered up for Jimmy Saville, pushed a fake pandemic and said Biden won the election fairly. Why would I watch them? I don't trust them

[Niamh.]

By the way Neem. That Candice Owens "Making a murderer" series I mentioned last month has started. I think there's been 2 of 10 episodes so far. I haven't watched yet. I believe it's on Daily Wire.Oh great thanks, the Daily Wire is a paid subscription is it?

[Alf]

Oh great thanks, the Daily Wire is a paid subscription is it?I'll see if I can find you a link. Although if you go on Candice Owens twitter. You'll probably find it there.

[Niamh.]

I'll see if I can find you a link. Although if you go on Candice Owens twitter. You'll probably find it there.Thanks Alf [emoji106]

[Alf]

Thanks Alf [emoji106]I think this is epidode 1. I haven'ttried it myself so can't be sure.

I think if you navigate around in the links in this tweet then you may also be able to get episode 2. Then I think you'll get the rest of the episodes as they are broadcast.

Let me know if it works for you.


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[Niamh.]

That's great I'll try it in a bit

[Alf]

You know you want PJWs take on this. So who am I to deny you?

It's definitely not about the establishment wanting Brand silenced. That's why the UK government are definitely not interfering.


CQrMWvweF0U

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Do you know what he's been up to, LT?

I'm not sure he is a hill you want to die on.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Do you know what he's been up to, LT?

I'm not sure he is a hill you want to die on, especially as a protector of women.

no and neither do you but in my eyes he is an innocent man till proven guilty

unless you know differently?

Corbyn was accused of many things

just think back to how you responded to that...

[Crimson Dynamo]

You know you want PJWs take on this. So who am I to deny you?

It's definitely not about the establishment wanting Brand silenced. That's why the UK government are definitely not interfering.


CQrMWvweF0U

he always hits the nail on the head

[thesheriff443]

Do you know what he's been up to, LT?

I'm not sure he is a hill you want to die on.

Running up a hill with a dodgy heart could result in death but giving an alternative opinion on tibb is like drowning in an empty bath

It’s nonsense

[Mystic Mock]

Do you know what he's been up to, LT?

I'm not sure he is a hill you want to die on.

What's he been up to?

I don't know much about Dillon Danis.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-bc8c18d0-cb25-4f46-bef1-311a8bd02409.jpeg

[bots]

i don't know about anyone else, but i am sick of the sight of Brand on every front page headline. Let the police investigate and spare us every convoluted detail from 1000 different encounters he had in the past

[Cherie]

i don't know about anyone else, but i am sick of the sight of Brand on every front page headline. Let the police investigate and spare us every convoluted detail from 1000 different encounters he had in the past

it is beyond ridiculous at this stage, lets have some real news

[Crimson Dynamo]

:whistle:

DYrDW2J3nJE

[The Slim Reaper]

Running up a hill with a dodgy heart could result in death but giving an alternative opinion on tibb is like drowning in an empty bath

It’s nonsense

And again in English please, Confucius.

[arista]

i don't know about anyone else, but i am sick of the sight of Brand on every front page headline. Let the police investigate and spare us every convoluted detail from 1000 different encounters he had in the past


But he got his erect Cock out
in LA in the BBC studio bog in 2008
The Lady Olivia now talking to the BBC


This is a New Interview
the BBC have

[The Slim Reaper]

no and neither do you but in my eyes he is an innocent man till proven guilty

unless you know differently?

Corbyn was accused of many things

just think back to how you responded to that...

Yeah, you're right. He did hi-5 that ladies boob that one time :laugh:

I wasn't even on about the accusation of sexual assault (only found that out this morning), i was on about the hounding of Paul Logan's (his next fighting opponent) fiance on social media. Constantly trying to slut shame her, posting the vid he said was of her on her knees with an ex (turned out it wasn't her), posting private vids where she had recorded things for exes, trying to count all the men she's slept with, and just constant harrassment about her sexual history.

No one has produced even a shred of evidence of the things they called Corbyn, Danis' own social media proves everything I've just said to be true, because he posted it.


Why don't you explain to the ladies on tibb, how this is the kind of guy you need to be defending at all costs?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why don't you explain to the ladies on tibb, how this is the kind of guy you need to be defending at all costs?

well when I find such a poster i will

[user104658]

:whistle:

DYrDW2J3nJE

https://i.imgur.com/5HUyCZR.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

UK MP Who Pressured Rumble To Demonetize Russell Brand Received Donation
In Kind From Google

The MP also cited Google-owned YouTube's actions against Brand in her letter to
Rumble.


https://reclaimthenet.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/uk-mp-russell-brand-google-donation-d.jpg

https://reclaimthenet.org/uk-mp-russell-brand-google-donation

[Swan]

UK MP Who Pressured Rumble To Demonetize Russell Brand Received Donation
In Kind From Google

The MP also cited Google-owned YouTube's actions against Brand in her letter to
Rumble.


https://reclaimthenet.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/uk-mp-russell-brand-google-donation-d.jpg

https://reclaimthenet.org/uk-mp-russell-brand-google-donation

The Brand stuff aside, isn't it just a massive piss take what all these politicians receive in comps, and various other privileges bestowed upon them?! They're spoiled rotten, all of them, and they completely lose touch with reality. Some are just born into money and privilege and it continues throughout their lives, with them not really giving a toss about regular working class people, poor people etc. And they certainly can't and wont understand the plight of the everyday person. And others who fight their way up the ranks, coming from modest backgrounds have the carrot dangled then completely sell out with their views. They try and justify their ever changing stances and positions but none of them can be trusted. As long as this system stays the same, i wont ever vote. Labour, Tories, Lib Dems, they're all crooks.

And we all play right into their hands by keep fighting amongst ourselves. It's so silly really, but we're programmed that way. Im not saying Brand isn't guilty, i think he is, but im always extremely weary of MSM and how they portray stories that suit the agenda of others.

[arista]

https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1704982737088565420

[arista]

https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1704983761962627402

[Oliver_W]

:whistle:

DYrDW2J3nJE
cba with sitting through rambling videos, does he ever write up these hard-hitting informative exposès? I'd much rather read it than listen to it.

But either way, is anyone surprised that a big corporation is rotten?

Hardly surprising.

UK MP Who Pressured Rumble To Demonetize Russell Brand Received Donation
In Kind From Google

The MP also cited Google-owned YouTube's actions against Brand in her letter to
Rumble.


https://reclaimthenet.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/uk-mp-russell-brand-google-donation-d.jpg

https://reclaimthenet.org/uk-mp-russell-brand-google-donation
Again, I doubt anyone here will be surprised that a politician is (apparently) corrupt and self-serving. They virtually are all crooks anyway.

[user104658]

cba with sitting through rambling videos, does he ever write up these hard-hitting informative exposès? I'd much rather read it than listen to it.

It's just nothing new. It's never anything new. It's the stuff that anyone with an ear half to the ground online has been hearing about for literal decades -- only now (massive irony) it's gone more mainstream, certain groups of people are just hearing about it all for the first time and think they've stumbled upon some grand revelation that no one else was "awake to" before they got bored and found out that Reddit exists in mid-2020.

So now the same old, same old, same old is parroted back and forth ad nauseam but with the added irritant of some bloke or other who just figured out how to plug in his router droning "bet you ignorant shills didn't know about any of THIS! I have uncovered the global secrets!!" over the top of it.

It's somewhat funny but increasingly just tiring and boring. I was a wee teenager kicking about abovetopsecret.com as early as 2001 and now some old lads who saw the same **** on YouTube or Twitter 20 years later have taken it upon themselves to "educate me about it". **** off with it in all honesty! I mean really! It was BS peppered with flecks of truth for flavour back then, it's the same now.

[Oliver_W]

It's just nothing new. It's never anything new. It's the stuff that anyone with an ear half to the ground online has been hearing about for literal decades -- only now (massive irony) it's gone more mainstream, certain groups of people are just hearing about it all for the first time and think they've stumbled upon some grand revelation that no one else was "awake to" before they got bored and found out that Reddit exists in mid-2020.

So now the same old, same old, same old is parroted back and forth ad nauseam but with the added irritant of some bloke or other who just figured out how to plug in his router droning "bet you ignorant shills didn't know about any of THIS! I have uncovered the global secrets!!" over the top of it.

It's somewhat funny but increasingly just tiring and boring. I was a wee teenager kicking about abovetopsecret.com as early as 2001 and now some old lads who saw the same **** on YouTube or Twitter 20 years later have taken it upon themselves to "educate me about it". **** off with it in all honesty! I mean really! It was BS peppered with flecks of truth for flavour back then, it's the same now.

Thought as much.

Is it weird to say I'm disappointed in Russell Brand :laugh: ? Like, I've not really followed him in literal years, which is why I was surprised that he actually had ostensibly slid to the right, and he's always seemed like a conspiracy nut, but I thought he was more into harmless bonkers conspiracies, not the same ones everyone in the mileau of Crowder comes out with.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thought as much.

Is it weird to say I'm disappointed in Russell Brand :laugh: ? Like, I've not really followed him in literal years, which is why I was surprised that he actually had ostensibly slid to the right, and he's always seemed like a conspiracy nut, but I thought he was more into harmless bonkers conspiracies, not the same ones everyone in the mileau of Crowder comes out with.

what conspiracy theories does he promote?

and what right wing views is he promoting?

[arista]

Newsnight BBC2HD
has special interview
with another worker
who was with Brand.

[user104658]

what right wing views is he promoting?

The common parlance of right/left has changed significantly over the last 5 years and the term "alt-right" has really very little to do with the traditional conservative or economic right these days -- just as many of those that you yourself would brand "lefties" are in fact absolutely rampant neoliberal-capitalist consumers (the fuel in the belly of the economic right.

Basically, "what right wing views" is a red herring. You know the views that are being referred to. Commonly referred to as the modern "right" or alt-right. I've taken to just saying "Truthers" as that's the direction it's sprawled off in since Covid.

what conspiracy theories does he promote?

This part can really only be a joke... you can't watch a video of someone spouting off about the New World Order and Blackrock and then deny with a straight face that he's deep in conspiracy theory territory.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The common parlance of right/left has changed significantly over the last 5 years and the term "alt-right" has really very little to do with the traditional conservative or economic right these days -- just as many of those that you yourself would brand "lefties" are in fact absolutely rampant neoliberal-capitalist consumers (the fuel in the belly of the economic right.

Basically, "what right wing views" is a red herring. You know the views that are being referred to. Commonly referred to as the modern "right" or alt-right. I've taken to just saying "Truthers" as that's the direction it's sprawled off in since Covid.



This part can really only be a joke... you can't watch a video of someone spouting off about the New World Order and Blackrock and then deny with a straight face that he's deep in conspiracy theory territory.


lol, I watch the videos and can comment on them you dont watch the videos and just cow-tow the MSM media tropes

you sound more and more like Emily Maitlis

[bots]

lol, I watch the videos and can comment on them you dont watch the videos and just cow-tow the MSM media tropes

you sound more and more like Emily Maitlis

and every time you spout bad MSM you are propagating and parroting what you have watched on videos. I see you do it every day on here. I've also seen you entirely turn round your viewpoint when you have received your daily update from the hive mind

[Crimson Dynamo]

and every time you spout bad MSM you are propagating and parroting what you have watched on videos. I see you do it every day on here. I've also seen you entirely turn round your viewpoint when you have received your daily update from the hive mind

hive mind

wonder where you got that phrase....?


:skull:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

lol, I watch the videos and can comment on them you dont watch the videos and just cow-tow the MSM media tropes

you sound more and more like Emily Maitlis

For god only knows what reason, clearly I have too much time on my hands - I did watch it. It is possible to watch them and not be indoctrinated by them - I know you might find that tough to believe?

I don't watch MSM news. I don't even have live TV in my house. Do I think YouTube or "Rumble" are better sources of news? Funnily enough - no.

I just know silly overblown BS when I hear it, and that's what's pumped out by both the MSM and these content creators. All competing for the attention of the attention-deficit. Getting sucked in by a YouTuber instead of a Newspaper doesn't make you somehow superior LT.

[user104658]

hive mind

wonder where you got that phrase....?


:skull:

I mean... at the very least, Star Trek has been using it since the early 90's.

Another old-as-the-hills parlance that in your imaginary world only came into use since COVID?

[Crimson Dynamo]

For god only knows what reason, clearly I have too much time on my hands - I did watch it. It is possible to watch them and not be indoctrinated by them - I know you might find that tough to believe?

I don't watch MSM news. I don't even have live TV in my house. Do I think YouTube or "Rumble" are better sources of news? Funnily enough - no.

I just know silly overblown BS when I hear it, and that's what's pumped out by both the MSM and these content creators. All competing for the attention of the attention-deficit. Getting sucked in by a YouTuber instead of a Newspaper doesn't make you somehow superior LT.

Do you think perhaps there is merit in this view?

Its hardly "out there"

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[user104658]

It was BS peppered with flecks of truth for flavour back then, it's the same now.

Do you think perhaps there is merit in this view?

Its hardly "out there"


I literally said it today on this thread - using little bits of the truth and pointing out the inconsistencies (and there are indeed plenty) in the mainstream news narrative is how these Truther concepts and the bad-faith individuals using those concepts to control and manipulate (and make money) gain a foothold in the first place - and then they run with it and mould it into whatever nonsense they fancy moulding it into.

I've said MANY times since the Brand story broke that it can certainly be true that the MSM have an axe to grind with him currently and that's why there's a heavy focus on him right now ... and it also be true that he's been an abusive **** who has sexually assaulted multiple women.

The "media swamping" of stories about Brand is suspicious. The idea that these things weren't already known about him for years if not decades is dubious. Sure I can buy into that. I still think he bloody did the things he's accused of doing, and I'm not inclined to consider those crimes "irrelevant because there's also other stuff going on".

Do you imagine that Brand is the first or only person saying the things he's saying in that Twitter clip? He isn't. He quite obviously isn't. SO the idea that there's a grand conspiracy to silence someone who is only saying the same things that dozens if not hundreds of other high profile people were already saying? When the effect is that actually MORE attention has been drawn to it? Obviously nonsense.

Again like I said the other day, you seem to similtaneously believe two things:

1) There's powerful global forces at work meticulously crafting conspiracies against people, involving hundreds/thousands of individuals, without leaving any solid trace of their actions

and at the same time

2) They're entirely inept, can't work Photoshop, and actually gave the things they're trying to silence more exposure (which was always obvious would happen).

Mad.

[Oliver_W]

For some reason Blackrock has an association with "woke media" in my mind but I'm not really sure why, and I'm not watching any annoying videos to find out :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

BlackRock and Vanguard were all in on ESG but they are now turning the oil tanker around and reversing

And now Rishi is rowing back on Net Zero bollocks

A coincidence?

https://fortune.com/2023/09/13/blackrock-vanguard-were-once-esg-reversing-course-finance-bob-rubin/

[arista]

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Of course LT

He is being hunted down


But in 2008
in that, BBC Hired building in LA

Brand got his erect Cock Out
in a bog while the young lady was in there.


Then recorded for his Radio 2 show
him laughing about doing just that.

[The Slim Reaper]

The common parlance of right/left has changed significantly over the last 5 years and the term "alt-right" has really very little to do with the traditional conservative or economic right these days -- just as many of those that you yourself would brand "lefties" are in fact absolutely rampant neoliberal-capitalist consumers (the fuel in the belly of the economic right.

Basically, "what right wing views" is a red herring. You know the views that are being referred to. Commonly referred to as the modern "right" or alt-right. I've taken to just saying "Truthers" as that's the direction it's sprawled off in since Covid.



This part can really only be a joke... you can't watch a video of someone spouting off about the New World Order and Blackrock and then deny with a straight face that he's deep in conspiracy theory territory.

Alt-right is neo-nazi far right.

[Oliver_W]

BlackRock and Vanguard were all in on ESG

Oh that's it.

I don't even know what ESGs are, apart from having some connection to so-called "wokeness" :joker:

[Cherie]

Do you think perhaps there is merit in this view?

Its hardly "out there"

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There is alot of merit to what he is saying, but is he the only one to say this ever? I dont think so, he makes his point in that very Brand way of enuciating with wild eyes and it is impactful, he also makes a million squids every year from his YT channel so it would be easy for him to align with a few conspiracies just to spice things up

[bots]

i think that Brand has been protected for years by the elites that he now speaks out against. Funnily enough, when they remove their protection, it all comes tumbling down and that is what we are seeing play out here

[Crimson Dynamo]

There is alot of merit to what he is saying, but is he the only one to say this ever? I dont think so, he makes his point in that very Brand way of enuciating with wild eyes and it is impactful, he also makes a million squids every year from his YT channel so it would be easy for him to align with a few conspiracies just to spice things up

absolutely, its no different from the lads I follow doing youtube golf content spamming me every day with


"Have COSTCO Golf BALLS got EVEN BETTER?!?!"

"SHOCKING!! AMAZONS NO.1 Seller YOU Will be SURPRISED!!"

"Are you being CONNED with Expensive Golf Clubs!!!"

"IS THE NWO AND THE WHO lying about their golf handicap?"

[Crimson Dynamo]

i think that Brand has been protected for years by the elites that he now speaks out against. Funnily enough, when they remove their protection, it all comes tumbling down and that is what we are seeing play out here

and the BBC

The BBC’s toxic culture enabled Russell Brand – I know, I was there
As a long-serving 6 Music DJ, I witnessed the favouritism and rule-breaking
that allowed Brand’s bullying to go unchecked

My beef is not with Brand. It’s about the BBC management culture that
prevailed and permitted his antics at Radio 2 and 6 Music from 2006 to 2008,
when he was allowed to indulge in narcissistic and reckless behaviour on the
shop floor and to serve up his own brand of childish, self-serving, point-
scoring bile on air – leaving behind him a trail of ruined careers and shattered
lives.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/21/bbc-liz-kershaw-russell-brand-toxic-culture-witness/

[bots]

i still think the main aim of this whole thing is to put the bbc out of business. Which i actually dont have a problem with

[Crimson Dynamo]

i still think the main aim of this whole thing is to put the bbc out of business. Which i actually dont have a problem with

:fc:

[arista]

https://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/1705284827732189199

[Swan]

i still think the main aim of this whole thing is to put the bbc out of business. Which i actually dont have a problem with

I really wish everyone would just stop paying for that sh!t, it would force them to change. They can't take us all to court. But you will get very cleverly worded letters, filled with scare tactics, i use them for the bottom of my kitten's litter tray.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I really wish everyone would just stop paying for that sh!t, it would force them to change. They can't take us all to court. But you will get very cleverly worded letters, filled with scare tactics, i use them for the bottom of my kitten's litter tray.

if you ignore them they give up

[Swan]

if you ignore them they give up

Yeah, they have to prove im watching live TV, they wont be able to as i don't even acknowledge them when they knock on my door, they came 5 times in July. Had 3 threatening letters since, as i say, they're handy to line the bottom of the cat litter tray.

[user104658]

In a good 7 years of being a cord-cutter... I've had like two letters and zero visits :shrug:. I think our address is probably off their books at this point or something.

[Crimson Dynamo]

In a good 7 years of being a cord-cutter... I've had like two letters and zero visits :shrug:. I think our address is probably off their books at this point or something.

the myth they chase people

they dont have the resources

[Mystic Mock]

it is beyond ridiculous at this stage, lets have some real news

Well Blues dropped two points against QPR.

It's probably going to be the biggest news of the weekend... Hopefully.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Yeah, you're right. He did hi-5 that ladies boob that one time :laugh:

I wasn't even on about the accusation of sexual assault (only found that out this morning), i was on about the hounding of Paul Logan's (his next fighting opponent) fiance on social media. Constantly trying to slut shame her, posting the vid he said was of her on her knees with an ex (turned out it wasn't her), posting private vids where she had recorded things for exes, trying to count all the men she's slept with, and just constant harrassment about her sexual history.

No one has produced even a shred of evidence of the things they called Corbyn, Danis' own social media proves everything I've just said to be true, because he posted it.


Why don't you explain to the ladies on tibb, how this is the kind of guy you need to be defending at all costs?

I was reading up on Dillon Danis this morning, what a horrible douchebag.

Especially with the borderline Revenge Porn stuff, that's indefensible imo.

[Mystic Mock]

For god only knows what reason, clearly I have too much time on my hands - I did watch it. It is possible to watch them and not be indoctrinated by them - I know you might find that tough to believe?

I don't watch MSM news. I don't even have live TV in my house. Do I think YouTube or "Rumble" are better sources of news? Funnily enough - no.

I just know silly overblown BS when I hear it, and that's what's pumped out by both the MSM and these content creators. All competing for the attention of the attention-deficit. Getting sucked in by a YouTuber instead of a Newspaper doesn't make you somehow superior LT.

I always find that it's best to get your news from multiple sources, and then make your own mind up on the situation once you've got all of the facts.

I agree with you that just getting news from a couple of Youtubers who happen to share your views ends up not being a good idea, imo it can breed extremist viewpoints and have an echo chamber forming, plus the Youtuber (like the MSM) will also have an agenda, and they might omit certain information that doesn't fit into their narrative.

And for people questioning the morals of removing Russell Brand before he has been found guilty of anything, what if these companies have more information about these cases than what we've been preview to? It's just a thought.

[Mystic Mock]

BlackRock and Vanguard were all in on ESG but they are now turning the oil tanker around and reversing

And now Rishi is rowing back on Net Zero bollocks

A coincidence?

https://fortune.com/2023/09/13/blackrock-vanguard-were-once-esg-reversing-course-finance-bob-rubin/

And there was me thinking that Vanguard was just an unpopular installment of Call Of Duty.

[arista]

From Radio 4's Media Show
(Weds last week)

I record it
As BBCnewsHD no longer shows the Media show
due to legal problems.

This Brand story started 4 years ago.
And Times Newspaper, brought forward
the Saturday Russel Brand Story, for 4pm release.

At Mid Day on that Saturday Ch4 Production was
still working on the 90mins Docu
so they could edit the new Russel Brand video,
into that 90mins.


Lucy Frazer MP was on this
in brief, as she has been talking at the
RTS annual conference in Cambridge
on Wednesday, just gone.


She wants all women to come forward
to the Police.



Brand has no tour of Australia now
as the Promoter withdrew his name.

So he is stuck
and his money can dry up.


Brand has to put his case on a Real TV News
not his own YouTube mess

[Cherie]

Well Blues dropped two points against QPR.

It's probably going to be the biggest news of the weekend... Hopefully.:laugh:

:laugh: that should make the front pages

[Crimson Dynamo]

Russel speaks

https://rumble.com/v3jx8pg-so....html

[arista]

Russel speaks

https://rumble.com/v3jx8pg-so....html


Yes LT the TV News played that/


Until he goes on a Real News
he will get far worse trouble

[Beso]

Russel brand can go and shag his own hoop for all im concerned.

Always knew he was dodgy and slimey.

[Alf]

Russel speaks

https://rumble.com/v3jx8pg-so....htmlWhat's he doing with his hands in this video? Is he trying to send out a message to someone or does he always do this when he speaks? His hand gestures was all I could focus on from start to finish of this video. They were front and centre.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What's he doing with his hands in this video? Is he trying to send out a message to someone or does he always do this when he speaks? His hand gestures was all I could focus on from start to finish of this video. They were front and centre.

I think its the stress

[arista]

In Today's Observer
Loads of Advertisers on Rumble
like Burger King removed their
ads from Russell Brands page.

Rumble said they are going to Continue
with Brand, as he is still innocent.


Reported tonight on Headliners
GBnewsHD the One Hour review
of all the newspapers.
every night. 11PM

[Mystic Mock]

:laugh: that should make the front pages

Brentford also decided to join us in embarrassing themselves too.:laugh:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/23/22/75769157-0-image-m-5_1695506373072.jpg

[Russell Brand befriended a heroin addict
before reducing him to tears after
offering £50 to let him sleep with his
prostitute girlfriend as the couple's toddler
roamed the house during 'depraved'
television documentary

The production company boss called
social services were seeing the footage]


[The shocking allegations, said to have occurred between
2003 and 2013, include the alleged rape of a woman
at his home in Los Angeles and the alleged
sexual assault of a 16-year-old schoolgirl.

Brand has denied the accusations,
claiming all of his relationships
had been consensual.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12553301/Russell-Brand-heroin-addict-television-documentary.html

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/24/02/75772221-0-image-m-8_1695517722601.jpg

[Russell Brand was grilled by cops NINE years ago
over accusation he sexually assaulted
masseuse - as the comedian's old school
asks 'victims' to come forward amid fresh
claims he groped girls

Comedian Russell Brand, 48, was accused of sexual
assault earlier last Saturday]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12553627/russell-brand-allegations-masseuse-school.html

[arista]

LT

You watch Piers Morgan.
On Tuesday the 19th
he spoke one on one to Andrew Neil.


He backed his Former Newspaper (Sunday Times)
and said this took 4 years to complete
and they gave Brand 8 days to reply,
Before last Saturday,
and it will have to go to a court.


I record Morgan (Talk TV HD)
had a chance to check this episode.

[Alf]

1705854464228217263

[arista]

[The Metropolitan Police says it will investigate
allegations of "non-recent" sexual offences
following news reports about comedian Russell Brand.

The force said it had received a
"number of allegations of sexual offences
in London" as well as elsewhere
in the country, and no arrests had been made.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66918331



Will the Police
Drag Brand in for Questioning?

[Crimson Dynamo]

1706274449513693503?s=20

[The Slim Reaper]

I thought you liked mail journalism, LT? Just when it's not going after male predators?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Russel is streaming now on RUMBLE. Feed starts at 52 minutes if you dial it back

https://rumble.com/v3ko2cy-are-we-being-silenced-the-battle-for-free-speech-plus-jimmy-dore-stay-free-.html

[arista]

Police have got more allegations,

They are at last investigating past
sex offences.

Not all were Consensual

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66918331

[Crimson Dynamo]

Police have got more allegations,

They are at last investigating past
sex offences.

Not all were Consensual

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66918331

Not all were Consensual it has been alleged

[arista]

Not all were Consensual it has been alleged

Of course

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-98f6e5a6-4c55-4fad-870c-0c4060d55f1a.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-58b30b8a-3ac6-4e96-b17c-c9bee8ba1e21.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-0ff79aae-6af3-45b7-a39c-a60963e84ee9.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-d646ad3f-1ce1-4dca-8b7a-0f73183d775e.png

[Mystic Mock]

Going off topic for a second, but why was Gregg struggling mentally on SCD? It's only a silly Dancing contest.

[arista]

Going off topic for a second, but why was Gregg struggling mentally on SCD? It's only a silly Dancing contest.

He found it
that hard

[Crimson Dynamo]

World boxing champ Glenn McCrory, 59, is CLEARED of sexual assault charges
brought by waitresses after court ruled he used the word 'pet' as a 'term of
endearment' and 'was not flirting when he touched their elbow'

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/28/18/75946073-12572089-image-a-13_1695920406621.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12572089/Glenn-McCrory-boxing-cleared-sexually-assaulting-three-waitresses.html

:whistle:

[Oliver_W]

World boxing champ Glenn McCrory, 59, is CLEARED of sexual assault charges
brought by waitresses after court ruled he used the word 'pet' as a 'term of
endearment' and 'was not flirting when he touched their elbow'

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/28/18/75946073-12572089-image-a-13_1695920406621.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12572089/Glenn-McCrory-boxing-cleared-sexually-assaulting-three-waitresses.html

:whistle:
Mate how can you compare.

McCrory literally did call her pet and touch her elbow, he never disputed that. But harmless actions being harmless aren't the same as actual assault.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Mate how can you compare.

McCrory literally did call her pet and touch her elbow, he never disputed that. But harmless actions being harmless aren't the same as actual assault.

why did he get to court?

[thesheriff443]

why did he get to court?

And yet they are letting rapist’s off with a warning if they apologise to the victim.

[user104658]

World boxing champ Glenn McCrory, 59, is CLEARED of sexual assault charges
brought by waitresses after court ruled he used the word 'pet' as a 'term of
endearment' and 'was not flirting when he touched their elbow'

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/28/18/75946073-12572089-image-a-13_1695920406621.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12572089/Glenn-McCrory-boxing-cleared-sexually-assaulting-three-waitresses.html

:whistle:

Waiting with baited breath for the explanation of how this has anything to do with Russell Brand.

[Niamh.]

Waiting with baited breath for the explanation of how this has anything to do with Russell Brand.

Touching an elbow/rape, what's the difference TS? :shrug:

[user104658]

why did he get to court?

It went to court so that they could decide if the undisputed facts constituted a criminal offence; they decided that it was not.

Which is a completely different scenario to gathering evidence to take a disputed described series of events to trial, which requires sufficient corroborating evidence.

You don't need to gather any more evidence when the series of events isn't in dispute? He had said, "yes those things happened". The case was only to decide if that was over the threshold of being an assault.

[user104658]

Touching an elbow/rape, what's the difference TS? :shrug:

It's just bizarre because you can't even take it as a "look, this guy was cleared sometimes women LIE!" because that's not even what went on here... it's not been disputed that what they said was true :think:. He just wasn't found guilty of any actual crime. It doesn't relate to the accusations against Brand even vaguely...

[bots]

the issue in that case was the prosecution service deciding to take it to trial when violent rapists are walking free on a regular basis

[thesheriff443]

It's just bizarre because you can't even take it as a "look, this guy was cleared sometimes women LIE!" because that's not even what went on here... it's not been disputed that what they said was true :think:. He just wasn't found guilty of any actual crime. It doesn't relate to the accusations against Brand even vaguely...

What it shows is how pathetic the system is
Would this man went to court if he was a regular bloke, hell no

The fact it was three waitresses that gave statements and the most serious was that he touched an elbow

It shows that that they can’t get thousands of rape victims justice by getting the scum bags in court but they can get a case to court when it’s someone famous

[Crimson Dynamo]

JIMGfhRj1KY

[user104658]

I have no real issue with the idea that establishment politicians are dodgy or that the media is manipulated but the idea that Trump represents a counter-narrative is absolutely ****ing unhinged. If you believe the overall narrative is true, the only reasonable conclusion is that Trump is part of it.

However: None of this has anything to do with Brand's sex crimes. Should be a separate thread LT.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8383a651-86ab-4d7f-8162-40e6a7dbffb6.png

[arista]

Sky News Text :
[Metro leads on comedian Russell Brand
being questioned by police over
allegations of sex offences.]


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8c7b3713-3ce9-4e47-8191-7f0c4b68308c.png

[arista]

[Russell Brand has been questioned
by the Metropolitan Police in relation to
allegations of historical sex offences.

An investigation by the Sunday Times,
the Times and Channel 4's Dispatches revealed
allegations of rape, sexual assaults and
emotional abuse against
the British comedian and actor.

Brand has previously denied the claims.

The Met has confirmed that a man in his
40s attended a police station in south London
on 16 November, as first reported
by the Times newspaper.

The force said he was interviewed under caution
by detectives in relation to allegations
of "three non-recent sexual offences".

It said inquiries were continuing.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67469301

[Mystic Mock]

At this point five different claims doesn't look good for him.

But then I said this about Benjamin Mendy with 8 claims (I think it was) and he was cleared of them all, so I'm not sure anymore.:joker:

[Niamh.]

I think this is epidode 1. I haven'ttried it myself so can't be sure.

I think if you navigate around in the links in this tweet then you may also be able to get episode 2. Then I think you'll get the rest of the episodes as they are broadcast.

Let me know if it works for you.


1700516105511424239

managed to watch the first 2 episodes for free but I can't find the rest unless I pay for a dailywire sub which I'm not going to do, shame because it was good

[user104658]

At this point five different claims doesn't look good for him.

But then I said this about Benjamin Mendy with 8 claims (I think it was) and he was cleared of them all, so I'm not sure anymore.:joker:

"Cleared of charges" does not mean "proven innocent".

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/31/14/80681729-13028085-Russell_Brand_shown_here_during_his_appearance_on_ Carlson_s_show-a-1_1706709846150.jpg

[Disgraced Russell Brand speaks for the first time
to deny multiple rape allegations calling them
'a painful, hurtful attack' during Tucker Carlson
interview where he reveals
his 12-week-old baby was having heart
surgery when the accusations first surfaced]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13028085/Disgraced-Russell-Brand-speaks-time-deny-multiple-rape-allegations-calling-accusations-painful-hurtful-attack-Tucker-Carlson-interview-says-holocaust-denier-David-Icke-ahead-curve.html


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/31/15/79720203-13028085-Brand_has_always_vehemently_denied_the_claims_made _against_him_a-a-1_1706716205144.jpg

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbZfQ2RaoAAIpuS?format=jpg&name=small

[thesheriff443]

The question is
Is there enough evidence to gain a prosecution

[Oliver_W]

The question is
Is there enough evidence to gain a prosecution

And does he have too many fans to risk "reasonable doubt" being given too much reason?

(If that makes sense)

[AnnieK]

He's now been charged with one count each of rape, indecent assault and oral rape as well as two counts of sexual assault.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/04/russell-brand-charged

[arista]

He's now been charged with one count each of rape, indecent assault and oral rape as well as two counts of sexual assault.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/04/russell-brand-charged


He is in America

[arista]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2025/04/04/6217829598234887916/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_6217829598234887916.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14572491/Russell-Brand-breaks-silence-charged-rape-sexual-assaults.html

[Beso]

https://youtu.be/RNslrcSKCkk?si=Kr8qm6JDCBR2obhm

[arista]

https://youtu.be/RNslrcSKCkk?si=Kr8qm6JDCBR2obhm


Yes, a Ch5HDnews report.


Nothing new

[Crimson Dynamo]

Charlie Kirk:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1819144572179828740/z3ZuWW2J_400x400.jpg


Every single allegation against Russell Brand concerns events that took place
twenty years ago or more. None of them existed while he was a famous
actor or comedian. All of them emerged once he became a highly visible
dissident on politics and Covid.

Brand has been forthright about his behavior as a young man, but the idea
he was a serial rapist is absurd and, more importantly, completely unprovable.

This is a political prosecution, plain and simple.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gns3w3mboAAoHGV?format=jpg&name=small


https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1908180278537072909

[thesheriff443]

A stand up comedian did a joke the other day
Why do these women wait 20 years
The answer is , he didn’t have any money then .

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-0bd736f2-18dd-4d50-814c-e5a38b8b59b7.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-e5b46b4b-8c5b-4146-b7fe-b246ecdbf2e3.png

[Oliver_W]

A stand up comedian did a joke the other day
Why do these women wait 20 years
The answer is , he didn’t have any money then .

There are plenty of reasons women don't come forward.

[thesheriff443]

There are plenty of reasons women don't come forward.

Indeed
But unfortunately not all women tell the truth

[arista]

He is due to appear in the London court
on the 2nd of May.


Brand at this time,
working in the USA

[bots]

i don't have a clue if he did something wrong or not. I don't like the guy, but that doesn't make him guilty. If there is actual evidence against him, then let it come out in court and let the jury decide. That's what it's there for

[arista]

i don't have a clue if he did something wrong or not. I don't like the guy, but that doesn't make him guilty. If there is actual evidence against him, then let it come out in court and let the jury decide. That's what it's there for


That's why he is happy to be in
Westminster Court
as it is His Word
against her Word

He stated that
Yesterday in a video link

[Mystic Mock]

Charlie Kirk:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1819144572179828740/z3ZuWW2J_400x400.jpg


Every single allegation against Russell Brand concerns events that took place
twenty years ago or more. None of them existed while he was a famous
actor or comedian. All of them emerged once he became a highly visible
dissident on politics and Covid.

Brand has been forthright about his behavior as a young man, but the idea
he was a serial rapist is absurd and, more importantly, completely unprovable.

This is a political prosecution, plain and simple.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gns3w3mboAAoHGV?format=jpg&name=small


https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1908180278537072909

I agree with Charlie Kirk about the reason as to why all of this has started coming to light.

But it still doesn't change the fact that Russell Brand might've committed criminal offenses.

[rusticgal]

i don't have a clue if he did something wrong or not. I don't like the guy, but that doesn't make him guilty. If there is actual evidence against him, then let it come out in court and let the jury decide. That's what it's there for


Yes..I feel the same way.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnuEsqNWkAE8fIY?format=jpg&name=900x900

[user104658]

He's been charged, why are people going on about it being "women after money"? It's not a civil case, investigators feel theres sufficient evidence to pursue criminal charges. That's not very common when it comes to allegations of sexual assault so they must have more evidence than "his word against theirs".