Reform UK Party

[arista]

Nigel Farage reposted
ITV News Politics
@ITVNewsPolitics
‘I promise you - this guy is a set up’

Nigel Farage tells ITV's Loose Women the Reform campaigner who used racist slurs isn't
a real activist

Andrew Parker has confirmed he is a part-time actor, but separately campaigned for
Reform

https://x.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1806666394014208078

If this is true then not sure how Channel 4 could survive going forward?

Yes Good ITVNews
used the LW clip


Ch4NewsHD
7PM tonight
can update viewers on this Actor Fella
that tricked their Undercover reporter.

As ITVNews run them........................


Ch4News will carry on LT.
Easy to get tricked
by a Professional Actor

[MTVN]

Nigel getting desperate it sounds like!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel getting desperate it sounds like!

There is only one political leader who is desperate as you well know

and in a week he will be down the DHSS to sign on

:joker:

[arista]

Nigel getting desperate it sounds like!

Not really

That Actor
did trick the Ch4 Undercover reporter


Ch4HDnews 7PM tonight
can update us Live

[Crimson Dynamo]

90vvZ3ybj9I

[arista]

Nigel is on 101HD

[GiRTh]

90vvZ3ybj9IThey're out to get us. I was wondering when this excuse was coming.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They're out to get us. I was wondering when this excuse was coming.

excuse for what?

Its a sure sign that reform are winning

and winning big

:cheer2:

[GiRTh]

excuse for what?

Its a sure sign that reform are winning

and winning big

:cheer2:A certain element in his party

[Crimson Dynamo]

A certain element in his party

Candidates

keep sipping the MSM Kool aid..

:whistle:

[GiRTh]

Candidates

keep sipping the MSM Kool aid..

:whistle:Curious reply.

He disowned the element, I'm referring to, in the debate :conf::conf:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Matt Goodwin
@GoodwinMJ

71% of Conservative Party voters support

Nigel_Farage

plan to use Royal Marines to take the small boats back to France

https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1806748758509556133

[Alf]

Reform have torpedoed their chances through Putin apologism and widespread offensive comments from their candidates and supporters

Can see them barely getting 10% of the vote nowEh?

What you talking about? Tell me more?

Calling someone a racist or an anti-vaxer or a blasphemer (Islamaphobe) is an offensive comment. I bet I can show you that that is widespread in the two established parties.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the MSM and their supporter's terror is such fun to watch

:laugh2:

[Mystic Mock]

Reform have torpedoed their chances through Putin apologism and widespread offensive comments from their candidates and supporters

Can see them barely getting 10% of the vote now

:fc:

[Mystic Mock]

Nigel Farage reposted
ITV News Politics
@ITVNewsPolitics
‘I promise you - this guy is a set up’

Nigel Farage tells ITV's Loose Women the Reform campaigner who used racist slurs isn't
a real activist

Andrew Parker has confirmed he is a part-time actor, but separately campaigned for
Reform

https://x.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1806666394014208078

If this is true then not sure how Channel 4 could survive going forward?

Probably because Channel 4 are telling the truth.:laugh:

[bots]

Reform are finished after their racist member slipped up

[arista]

He is not in the Party now.

[arista]

Nigel Farage will be interviewed
on Sunday 8:30AM -10PM TrevorPhillips SkyNewsHD

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reform are finished after their racist member slipped up

nonsense

Were Doctors finished after Harold Shipman
Were Nurses finished after Lucy Letby
Were the POlice finished after (pick any one of a 100 rapists)
Were Labour finished after MP Geraint Davies subjected five young female colleagues to unwanted sexual attention.
Were the Tories finished after the expenses scandal
Were the Lib Dems finished when their energy sec Chris Huhne was jailed for eight months
Were Man U finished after Mason Greenwood

Every large organisation has its fair share of whack jobs

And its a point you have made in the past

:laugh:

[bots]

because i am right :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel Farage
Nigel_Farage


🚨 POLITICAL INTERFERENCE ALERT 🚨

It comes as no surprise that that the #BBCQT audience last night was rigged.

These were not ordinary members of the public.

They hand-picked a prominent pro-Palestine activist & even a BBC TV Director to attack me.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPB8_5XEAA2wH0?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel Farage
Nigel_Farage
·

I have just been invited to appear on Laura Kuenssberg.

I’m refusing until the BBC apologises for their dishonest QT audience.

Our state broadcaster has behaved like a political actor throughout this election.

Reform will be campaigning vigorously to abolish the license fee.

[user104658]

I'm mainly just still amused and flabbergasted by how little anyone actually cares :joker:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Richard Tice 🇬🇧
@TiceRichard
·

Ch 4 caught fibbing again…

They said did no know Parker

He worked for them

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRLtAj6XQAAceRH?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

There's your racist
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GROgIegX0AAR_pq?format=jpg&name=small

[user104658]

Richard Tice 🇬🇧
@TiceRichard
·

Ch 4 caught fibbing again…

They said did no know Parker

He worked for them

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRLtAj6XQAAceRH?format=jpg&name=small

42 years ago :laugh: you'll get papercuts grasping at straws like that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

42 years ago :laugh: you'll get papercuts grasping at straws like that.

I can just see you making excuses for Nixon in the 70s

"it cant be a burglary, the door was open"

Or regarding OJ "So driving carefully is a crime now"!


Or when that money went missing on Craggy island "it was resting in his account"!

[arista]

There's your racist
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GROgIegX0AAR_pq?format=jpg&name=small

Well Done Richard

[bots]

i will be very surprised if reform manage to get more than 1 seat. That's the reality until we hear differently on friday

[bots]

i just heard the SNP leader say on sky news that he defecated on the reform party :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reform UK started the campaign on an average of 11% in the polls. The return of Nigel
Farage as leader, and the greater exposure that gave the party, has led to a rise in share,
standing at an average of 16% with six days to go.

Should this translate into a similar vote share on polling day it would be a remarkable
success for the party. At its peak in 2015 Ukip managed 12.6% of the vote.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/28/reforms-polling-surge-threatens-tory-seats-but-has-it-hit-its-peak

[Beso]

There's your racist
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GROgIegX0AAR_pq?format=jpg&name=small

Awwww...

Black friends.

[bots]

do you think he offered them an ice cream to have a photo with them

[MTVN]

Reform UK has dropped three of its candidates following reports they had made offensive comments, a spokesman has said.

Edward Oakenfull, who is standing in Derbyshire Dales; Robert Lomas, a candidate in Barnsley North, and Leslie Lilley, standing in Southend East and Rochford, will still appear on the ballot paper as Reform candidates as it is too late for them to be removed.

A Reform spokesman said if any of the three were elected they would sit as independent MPs.

However, he said people should still vote for the candidates if they wished to register support for Reform.

It comes after leader Nigel Farage disowned the candidates during an appearance on BBC Question Time on Friday evening, when their remarks were put to him.

Mr Farage told the programme: "I want nothing to do with them."

Asked what Reform would say to voters in the constituencies where the candidates had been dropped, the party spokesman said he would “encourage them to vote for the party, by voting for these people on the ballot paper".

This way, he said people could still vote for Reform's "policy platform".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c727xz2kkgjo

Very coherent stance 🥴

[bots]

Reform UK has dropped three of its candidates following reports they had made offensive comments, a spokesman has said.

Edward Oakenfull, who is standing in Derbyshire Dales; Robert Lomas, a candidate in Barnsley North, and Leslie Lilley, standing in Southend East and Rochford, will still appear on the ballot paper as Reform candidates as it is too late for them to be removed.

A Reform spokesman said if any of the three were elected they would sit as independent MPs.

However, he said people should still vote for the candidates if they wished to register support for Reform.

It comes after leader Nigel Farage disowned the candidates during an appearance on BBC Question Time on Friday evening, when their remarks were put to him.

Mr Farage told the programme: "I want nothing to do with them."

Asked what Reform would say to voters in the constituencies where the candidates had been dropped, the party spokesman said he would “encourage them to vote for the party, by voting for these people on the ballot paper".

This way, he said people could still vote for Reform's "policy platform".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c727xz2kkgjo

Very coherent stance 🥴

he wants them to be in parliament with racist ideals, but he shouldnt worry on that front, it wont happen

[Crimson Dynamo]

@HerdImmunity12

News: The claim that " Channel4
News have never given any money to planted actor Andrew Parker", doesn't
need much digging to see what really happened here.

As it transpires a company called 'Lee Sorrell Media', sold the undercover
footage to Channel 4 in an attempt to thwart any retrospective audit trails
linked to Andrew Parker.

Lee Sorrell, 59 based in Barnsley, South Yorkshire was the Head of
Investigations at
@ITV
from 2004 - 2009 and before that he did the same role for LWT from 1993 - 2003.

We'd like to see what communications took place between C4, Sorrell and
Andrew Parker. These are serious breaches of the UK Electoral Law under
interference. This also breaks the
@Ofcom
regulations of broadcasting standards, paying money to influence voters
outside of clearly named and stated 'Party Political Advertising'.

Nigel_Farage
should conduct an external investigation and if they find enough
incrimination material? - take these woeful platforms to the courts and sue
them for every penny they have.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GROl1vwXUAAtOkq?format=png&name=360x360

https://x.com/HerdImmunity12/status/1806978861168521620

Channel 4 also used Lee Sorrell media for an almost identical 'hard hitting'
documentary in the 2019 election.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRO9EMGWgAAwKe2?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Reform UK has dropped three of its candidates following reports they had made offensive comments, a spokesman has said.

Edward Oakenfull, who is standing in Derbyshire Dales; Robert Lomas, a candidate in Barnsley North, and Leslie Lilley, standing in Southend East and Rochford, will still appear on the ballot paper as Reform candidates as it is too late for them to be removed.

A Reform spokesman said if any of the three were elected they would sit as independent MPs.

However, he said people should still vote for the candidates if they wished to register support for Reform.

It comes after leader Nigel Farage disowned the candidates during an appearance on BBC Question Time on Friday evening, when their remarks were put to him.

Mr Farage told the programme: "I want nothing to do with them."

Asked what Reform would say to voters in the constituencies where the candidates had been dropped, the party spokesman said he would “encourage them to vote for the party, by voting for these people on the ballot paper".

This way, he said people could still vote for Reform's "policy platform".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c727xz2kkgjo

Very coherent stance ��


Yes Well done getting rid of 3 bad apples,

Election Rules Need Updating

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes Well done getting rid of 3 bad apples

I wish the labour party and conservatives would get rid of theirs

look how long about took to get rid of anti-semites for labour

Yesterday David Lammy said in an interview that men can grow a cervix with drugs (they cant)

next week that imbecile will be in the cabinet

:umm2:

[bots]

Lammy will likely be foreign secretary :laugh:

[arista]

I wish the labour party and conservatives would get rid of theirs

look how long about took to get rid of anti-semites for labour

Yesterday David Lammy said in an interview that men can grow a cervix with drugs (they cant)

next week that imbecile will be in the cabinet

:umm2:



There is still over 5 days

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is a satisfying watch!

The BBC assembled the most biased, left-wing, unrepresentative audience
possible, and this paid-for actress woman thought she could embarrass Nigel Farage...

It backfires spectacularly.
🔥

video here: https://x.com/addicted2newz/status/1806985111369375959

and still in 2024 leftists cannot separate illegal gang-driven economic migrants no one wants with legal migration that we do

Its mind boggling stupidity

[Livia]

I understand people will be upset by the comments of a stray Reform candidate but it has caused a tremendous and sometimes orchestrated backlash. However, Angela Raynor continues to peddle the myth that people with penises are women. I'm more worried that no one's orchestrated a backlash to that.

[GiRTh]

Mr Oakenfull posted derogatory comments about the IQ of sub-Saharan Africans on social media last year. He previously told the BBC the remarks had been taken out of context.

Mr Lomas reportedly said black people should "get off [their] lazy arses" and stop acting "like savages". The comments were reported by the Times on 8 June, with Reform at the time claiming they were "out of context part quotations" and it needed more time to respond.

Mr Lilley reportedly described people arriving on small boats as "scum" in a social media post, adding: "I hope your family get robbed, beaten or attacked.":shocked:

[MTVN]

:shocked:

And Reform are literally saying to please still vote for them :facepalm:

[GiRTh]

And Reform are literally saying to please still vote for them :facepalm:
It comes to something when the initial reaction of - its a stitch up - has been dropped along with the candidates. :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lol
Reform really are triggering just the right people and the MSM

It's working

:joker:

[GiRTh]

Lol
Reform really are triggering just the right people and the MSM

It's working

:joker:
:laugh::laugh:

No denying they said it, no 'it was taken out of context', no 'Its a stich up'. If those three win :joker: thats three fewer MP's to form a Reform Government. :shrug:

[bots]

And Reform are literally saying to please still vote for them :facepalm:

please vote for these people who have been identified as racists, thats what they are actually saying

[Mystic Mock]

nonsense

Were Doctors finished after Harold Shipman
Were Nurses finished after Lucy Letby
Were the POlice finished after (pick any one of a 100 rapists)
Were Labour finished after MP Geraint Davies subjected five young female colleagues to unwanted sexual attention.
Were the Tories finished after the expenses scandal
Were the Lib Dems finished when their energy sec Chris Huhne was jailed for eight months
Were Man U finished after Mason Greenwood

Every large organisation has its fair share of whack jobs

And its a point you have made in the past

:laugh:

That's because Man Utd were already finished.:hehe:



























Coming from a supporter of a League One club.

[Mystic Mock]

There's your racist
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GROgIegX0AAR_pq?format=jpg&name=small

It's not possible for this to be a PR stunt to look good? Just like Hollywood and David Tennant funnily enough.

And who said that everyone at Reform are racist?

[Mystic Mock]

I wish the labour party and conservatives would get rid of theirs

look how long about took to get rid of anti-semites for labour

Yesterday David Lammy said in an interview that men can grow a cervix with drugs (they cant)

next week that imbecile will be in the cabinet

:umm2:

Is he talking about Trans treatment?

[Mystic Mock]

I understand people will be upset by the comments of a stray Reform candidate but it has caused a tremendous and sometimes orchestrated backlash. However, Angela Raynor continues to peddle the myth that people with penises are women. I'm more worried that no one's orchestrated a backlash to that.

Does Rayner word it exactly like that, or is she just supportive towards Transpeople being allowed to exist?

[Mystic Mock]

:shocked:

The bottom comment is somehow even worse than the top one.:laugh:

[arista]

1807146288573517880

[arista]

1807133801299992658

[Crimson Dynamo]

Connor Tomlinson
con_Tomlinson
The questions put to Nigel Farage on BBC Question Time were almost unanimously hostile

Almost every one asked, "Why are you a racist?", or "Why do you hate
migrants?", or "Why are you spreading fear?"

Not one Reform voter was called upon, despite them polling consistently at 15 - 21%

Audience members selected include a BBC cameraman (who asked the first
question) and a migrants rights activist (the second question asked)

The BBC aren't even trying to hide their bias

They are hoping to browbeat the British public into being too afraid to vote for Reform UK

Fighting for survival, perhaps, after Farage pledged to end the BBC licence fee? 🤔


VIDEO HERE: https://x.com/Con_Tomlinson/status/1806983250314776661

[Crimson Dynamo]

1BggfR-mseQ

[arista]

Yes Massive Hall Venue

SkyNewsHD have a reporter there

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes Massive Hall Venue

SkyNewsHD have a reporter there

5000 people

[arista]

Yes good the Rich Backer
of Reform UK is now speaking

[arista]

Farage now live

SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD
GBnewsHD

[arista]

Amazing
he is Live on BBCnewsHD

And is Outright Attacking the BBC

[Livia]

Does Rayner word it exactly like that, or is she just supportive towards Transpeople being allowed to exist?

I don't believe anyone - or at least very few people - want to deny trans people a happy life. But Raynor was talking about biological men in women only spaces. And it's always trans women who are demanding; you never hear about trans men demanding this and that.

[arista]

It went Split Screen

Lady said, you are watching BBC

Then went back,
to Live Farage

[arista]

Farage will Stop the BBC License Fee


Huge 5,000 crowd


love that.,

[Crimson Dynamo]

Amazing
he is Live on BBCnewsHD

And is Outright Attacking the BBC

He got a huge cheer when he said they would scrap the hard-left corrupt bbc tax license

[arista]

BBC news has now cut the Live Feed
they are showing a repeat.


GBnewsHD
SkyNewsHD staying with the Live feed

[arista]

A Reform UK Candidate has jumped over to the Conservatives


[Liam Booth-Isherwood had been
Reform UK's candidate standing in
Derbyshire's Erewash until today’s announcement
he was suspending his campaign and
disowning the party.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c98qvddx78nt

[Mystic Mock]

1807146288573517880

But what about freedom of speech?

Shouldn't Farage be supportive of people's right to say that Putin loves him?

[Mystic Mock]

Connor Tomlinson
con_Tomlinson
The questions put to Nigel Farage on BBC Question Time were almost unanimously hostile

Almost every one asked, "Why are you a racist?", or "Why do you hate
migrants?", or "Why are you spreading fear?"

Not one Reform voter was called upon, despite them polling consistently at 15 - 21%

Audience members selected include a BBC cameraman (who asked the first
question) and a migrants rights activist (the second question asked)

The BBC aren't even trying to hide their bias

They are hoping to browbeat the British public into being too afraid to vote for Reform UK

Fighting for survival, perhaps, after Farage pledged to end the BBC licence fee? 🤔


VIDEO HERE: https://x.com/Con_Tomlinson/status/1806983250314776661

Just say that Reform gets 21% of the vote (which is a good vote if they get it tbf) that still means that 79% aren't voting for them.

It would be more odd that the BBC would be running into loads of Reform supporters than them not imo.

Is there bias to some extent from the BBC? Absolutely, but I honestly do think that most of the UK doesn't like Farage or Reform, especially in the general public.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't believe anyone - or at least very few people - want to deny trans people a happy life. But Raynor was talking about biological men in women only spaces. And it's always trans women who are demanding; you never hear about trans men demanding this and that.

Fair enough if Raynor is comfortable with Transwomen in women only spaces.

I would say though that she should be thinking of what the majority of women are comfortable with when it comes to this topic (which I could hazard a guess what the answer would be) and she should be trying to push for a solution through a referendum where only women can vote.

[Livia]

Fair enough if Raynor is comfortable with Transwomen in women only spaces.

I would say though that she should be thinking of what the majority of women are comfortable with when it comes to this topic (which I could hazard a guess what the answer would be) and she should be trying to push for a solution through a referendum where only women can vote.

Great idea... But that's not how it'll work if and when Labour get in.

[bots]

like i said, one way of retaining women only spaces is to vote Conservative. If people really feel that the labour government is going to reduce women's rights, then vote conservative. No point in moaning when the option is there and availble on Thursday

[Mystic Mock]

Great idea... But that's not how it'll work if and when Labour get in.

Tbh I think that every party in this country wouldn't do my idea, because they are scared of possibly being called Transphobic if the result went a certain way.

[arista]

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/reformuk/pages/253/attachments/original/1710492690/Richard-Tice-and-Lee-Anderson-Want-Our-Country-Back-Join-Reform-UK-1000w.png?1710492690

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRawy6gWAAE3yNy?format=jpg&name=small

[Glenn.]

There's your racist
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GROgIegX0AAR_pq?format=jpg&name=small

:joker: :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/reformuk/pages/253/attachments/original/1710492690/Richard-Tice-and-Lee-Anderson-Want-Our-Country-Back-Join-Reform-UK-1000w.png?1710492690

And I want Birmingham City in the Premier League.

You can't always get what you want unfortunately.:bawling:

[joeysteele]

And I want Birmingham City in the Premier League.

You can't always get what you want unfortunately.:bawling:

Birmingham were last in the Premier league during the last Labour government.

They were relegated in the 2010/11 season when the Cons took over with the LibDems and never got back since.
If Labour win, they may start to return again.:joker:
Who knows :joker:

As for Reform, I am finding people wanting to vote for them but a fair few listening to the Cons saying voting for Reform will give Labour a massive majority.
So thinking of going back to the Cons.

I do think Reform are going to get a good level of support still though.

[Mystic Mock]

Birmingham were last in the Premier league during the last Labour government.

They were relegated in the 2010/11 season when the Cons took over with the LibDems and never got back since.
If Labour win, they may start to return again.:joker:
Who knows :joker:

As for Reform, I am finding people wanting to vote for them but a fair few listening to the Cons saying voting for Reform will give Labour a massive majority.
So thinking of going back to the Cons.

I do think Reform are going to get a good level of support still though.

Well we did have our drop to League One just before Tony Blair got in, so maybe history is repeating itself.:fc:

And tbh I'm not surprised that some of the Tory voters are considering pivoting back to them, because our current voting system makes it borderline impossible for any party outside of the top two to actually win the Election.

[Mystic Mock]

1807647282038272183

[arista]

Femi
is a trouble maker
they know who and what he does.


He showed his press pass
Dumb.


He is on the List

[Mystic Mock]

Femi
is a trouble maker
they know who and what he does.


He showed his press pass
Dumb.


He is on the List

What has Femi done wrong?

[arista]

What has Femi done wrong?

Showed his press card


Let them know he is banned

[Mystic Mock]

Showed his press card


Let them know he is banned

But why is he being banned?

[MTVN]

A Reform candidate has suspended her campaign and defected to the Conservatives because the “vast majority” of her fellow candidates are “racist, misogynistic and bigoted”.

Georgie David, the Reform candidate for West Ham and Beckton, said she had been “frustrated and dismayed” by Nigel Farage’s failure to tackle concerns about Reform’s candidates, though she said she did not believe Reform’s “senior leadership” are racist.

It comes two days after Reform’s candidate in Erewash also defected to the Conservatives over racism concerns.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c7204p2r0dkt

[Crimson Dynamo]

A Reform candidate has suspended her campaign and defected to the Conservatives because the “vast majority” of her fellow candidates are “racist, misogynistic and bigoted”.

Georgie David, the Reform candidate for West Ham and Beckton, said she had been “frustrated and dismayed” by Nigel Farage’s failure to tackle concerns about Reform’s candidates, though she said she did not believe Reform’s “senior leadership” are racist.

It comes two days after Reform’s candidate in Erewash also defected to the Conservatives over racism concerns.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c7204p2r0dkt

more desperation by the soon to be defunct tories :joker:

[bots]

more desperation by the soon to be defunct tories :joker:

no, it's just a few candidates reporting what the reform party is like. Classic denial from you

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GReVuxdXcAA4grv?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

Best news the UK has had in ages - courtesy of the Tories :dance:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRdelwlWwAA8eb-?format=jpg&name=small

[Livia]

But why is he being banned?

Because he is rabidly anti-Brexit and pro-Europe. Why do you think he was attending in the first place? They have the right to refuse admission just like every other party.

[Livia]

no, it's just a few candidates reporting what the reform party is like. Classic denial from you

Whereas no one has to tell us about Labour and the Tories because they've repeatedly shown us.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Whereas no one has to tell us about Labour and the Tories because they've repeatedly shown us.

hence the fact that no one is voting tory and they are heading for oblivion

[Livia]

hence the fact that no one is voting tory and they are heading for oblivion

Exactly. The two main parties are turning themselves inside out to discredit Reform but I'm not buying it.

[arista]

But why is he being banned?


Because he writes bad things about Farage.


Femi is Extreme Far Left

[arista]

[Second Reform candidate quits and backs Tories
over 'racism and misogyny' Georgie David,
who was the candidate for West Ham and Beckton,
is the second person to defect
to the Tories amid allegations of racism
within the ranks of Reform UK.]


4 hours ago

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRdrBJgWUAAdbkz?format=jpg&name=small

[Mystic Mock]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GReVuxdXcAA4grv?format=jpg&name=small

Point 1 sounds problematic.

[Mystic Mock]

Because he is rabidly anti-Brexit and pro-Europe. Why do you think he was attending in the first place? They have the right to refuse admission just like every other party.

But aren't Reform meant to be big on freedom of speech?

[Livia]

But aren't Reform meant to be big on freedom of speech?

So what? They're not stopping this person saying what he wants, they're stopping him entering their event because it's their right to do that.

[user104658]

Point 1 sounds problematic.

Tories want to do it too tbf.

[bots]

The tories, the lib dems and reform can pledge whatever they like because they wont have to do it.

[Kate!]

I'm ready to vote, early in the morning.

[Zizu]

I'm ready to vote, early in the morning.


Is that you Pat ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[user104658]

Early in the morniiing
Just as day was dawniiing
She ticked the box for "racist" "little" "man".

[Zizu]

Early in the morniiing
Just as day was dawniiing
She ticked the box for "racist" "little" "man".


Slightly relieved someone got my comment

:)


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[Oliver_W]

Slightly relieved someone got my comment

:)


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I doubt anyone here is young enough to not get it! Apart from possibly the fictious thirteen year olds who would get mentally scarred by Niahm's ****** porn. And even then I'm fairly sure my 12 year old cousin used to watch it on CBBCBeebies.

[Glenn.]

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[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-89f077d5-cc6b-46b6-b16f-957c4b043355.png

[Mystic Mock]

Tories want to do it too tbf.

So they claim.

But whatever Labour wouldn't do, the Tories also wouldn't do (and vice versa tbh.)

They're largely the same party under Sunak & Starmer.

[Mystic Mock]

So what? They're not stopping this person saying what he wants, they're stopping him entering their event because it's their right to do that.

They're stopping an alternative viewpoint at their event.

Freedom of speech should mean that you're open to opposing views, and every time Reform/the far right get tested on this, they don't practice what they preach.

[arista]

Ch4HDnews reported
in Wales
Reform UK is popular there

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/04/22/86941505-13602001-image-a-38_1720129446114.jpg


4 MP's

[Crimson Dynamo]

even if its only Nigel

what a night

[UserSince2005]

i vote for reform so they can kick labour and tory mps in the c'nt

[MTVN]

I don't think they'll actually get that

[Crimson Dynamo]

i vote for reform so they can kick labour and tory mps in the c'nt

not sure that is official policy

[Mystic Mock]

Reform's overall public vote is looking sharp so far.

[Nicky91]

4 seats :clap1: :clap1:


that's a decent beginning for Reform i guess, now need to make sure you don't lose that popularity, but gain more popularity, unlike forum for democracy party in my nation (whom also had a few seats at first but now nothing anymore after vilifying themselves a lot in the eyes of the public)

[user104658]

All that performance and bluster for 4 seats. Lol.

[bots]

i don't see farage liking parliament, it's too mainstream for him

[user104658]

i don't see farage liking parliament, it's too mainstream for him

When he has to be a rank-and-file MP instead of an agitator :joker:. Feel bad for his constituents - he'll be waaay more interested in continuing to flap his gums about national issues, press attention and trolling the rest of parliament, than he will in getting on with the job of being a local MP putting his energy into representing a small area. It's just not his MO.

[Beso]

All that performance and bluster for 4 seats. Lol.

It only needed one.

[user104658]

It only needed one.

:joker: is that the new official line?

[Crimson Dynamo]

All that performance and bluster for 4 seats. Lol.

Nigel achieved in 5 weeks what it took the SNP 22 years to achieve

so put your sneering snobbery aside and accept the huge success Reform UK have achieved

:dance:

[Beso]

:joker: is that the new official line?

He will be stammers downfall.

[user104658]

Nigel achieved in 5 weeks what it took the SNP 22 years to achieve

so put your sneering snobbery aside and accept the huge success Reform UK have achieved

:dance:

5 weeks! He's been trying since 1998 don't be daft :joker:. Same old rhetoric with a face-lift, that was guaranteed to resonate in 2024 given the general state of politics.

[user104658]

He will be stammers downfall.

Messiah-Farage? Well I'm certainly here for this Poundland Messiah-Trump story arc, maybe @ me when it happens in case I miss these dramatic scenes.

[Mystic Mock]

All that performance and bluster for 4 seats. Lol.

Tbf, for a reasonably new party it's not the worst showing.

Especially considering how corrupt our voting system is towards our two main parties.

[Mystic Mock]

He will be stammers downfall.

I think that Starmer will be smart, and not get dragged into drama with Farage.

[user104658]

Tbf, for a reasonably new party it's not the worst showing.

Especially considering how corrupt our voting system is towards our two main parties.

UKIP 3.0 is not new.

[Mystic Mock]

UKIP 3.0 is not new.

Is UKIP even still around as a party?

[user104658]

Is UKIP even still around as a party?

Yes it's called "Reform" you might have heard of them. AKA also, "The Brexit Party".

[user104658]

Honestly I naively thought that everyone actually knew that Reform is the same cat in a different hat, but apparently people think it's actually new?

Like... It's "new" in the same way that that wee "Morrison's Local" on your high street that used to be a "Spar", and before that a "Nisa" is new. Except that it's the same shop with a new sign outside and a couple of different products. Bob still stacking the shelves, Old Sue still staffing the checkouts.

[Beso]

Messiah-Farage? Well I'm certainly here for this Poundland Messiah-Trump story arc, maybe @ me when it happens in case I miss these dramatic scenes.

Hey, if you are happy to be bent over and drilled up the jacksey by a government that has been proven to have lied to go to war the last time they were in, and helped cover up the most disgusting and heinous of things I could think of in the cheap, aids and hepatitis infected blood scandal. Then so be it.. Others wanted change and voted accordingly, yet seem to be the ones getting ridiculed by you. Very strange why you would do that.:shrug:

[user104658]

Hey, if you are happy to be bent over and drilled up the jacksey by a government that has been proven to have lied to go to war the last time they were in, and helped cover up the most disgusting and heinous of things I could think of in the cheap, aids and hepatitis infected blood scandal. Then so be it.. Others wanted change and voted accordingly, yet seem to be the ones getting ridiculed by you. Very strange why you would do that.:shrug:

Because they wanted to change to Nigel Farage and co is the simple answer there. Change would be great, I'm certainly no fan of Labour, but that doesn't mean I'm going to vote for "change to whatever". Farage is an orator, a disingenuous liar, a populist with a crystal clear agenda.

Obviously I understand wanting change, I voted for Scottish Independence when it was on the table, I think it was disastrous for Scotland that it didn't happen, but that ship has long sailed and my idealism along with it. The Tories had to go. Reform is a shower of absolute tits. The options were few and Reform is not the change that anyone needs.

Plus.

They're not new it's just Farage's UKIP, the same song and dance he's been trotting out since 1998. So yes I find it quite funny to see people whacking one out over it.

[Beso]

Soldier Boy

The lib dems gained a record number of seats. The change wasn't all about farage.

[user104658]

Soldier Boy

The lib dems gained a record number of seats. The change wasn't all about farage.

Nothing has meaningfully changed though, the Tories have simply gotten themselves into a farcical and unelectable rut, so their voters have scattered. The more "further right" ones to Reform, the more "central" ones to Labour and Lib Dem, and the working class cohort they'd duped for a decade to a mix of Reform and Labour depending on which paper they were reading - i.e. the same reason they were previously voting Tory.

What will happen though, is that the Tories will be gutted & cleaned and rebrand as "the good old Tories you remember!" and their vote share will jump right back up. I don't see anything at all representing meaningful or lasting change. A tonne of those Reform voters will flip back simply because they believed Reform was a new big player, and have found out otherwise. 4 seats might be unexpected, people who follow politics might realise it's more than what a party like that might usually expect... but the dumb right-leaning TikTok kids who thought Farage had a shot at No. 10 are going to be saying "...4 seats? :think: " and they'll probably go Tory next time as a more "realistic" option.

Though as I said earlier I also think we're going to start seeing increasing numbers of charismatic and/or single-issue Independents actually getting seats.

[Crimson Dynamo]

PMQ's are set to get better!

[Crimson Dynamo]

LIVE: Reform MPs Nigel Farage, Richard Tice, Lee Anderson & Rupert Lowe on
the political earthquake.

14:30

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[The Slim Reaper]

Nothing has meaningfully changed though, the Tories have simply gotten themselves into a farcical and unelectable rut, so their voters have scattered. The more "further right" ones to Reform, the more "central" ones to Labour and Lib Dem, and the working class cohort they'd duped for a decade to a mix of Reform and Labour depending on which paper they were reading - i.e. the same reason they were previously voting Tory.

What will happen though, is that the Tories will be gutted & cleaned and rebrand as "the good old Tories you remember!" and their vote share will jump right back up. I don't see anything at all representing meaningful or lasting change. A tonne of those Reform voters will flip back simply because they believed Reform was a new big player, and have found out otherwise. 4 seats might be unexpected, people who follow politics might realise it's more than what a party like that might usually expect... but the dumb right-leaning TikTok kids who thought Farage had a shot at No. 10 are going to be saying "...4 seats? :think: " and they'll probably go Tory next time as a more "realistic" option.

Though as I said earlier I also think we're going to start seeing increasing numbers of charismatic and/or single-issue Independents actually getting seats.

I think ordinarily, your views on this reform nonsense would be spot on, but I think this is a different time. The neoliberal/capitalist destruction of living standards in favour of corporate profits, means people are desperate. Just as we have seen in France with a centrist Macron, doing absolutely nothing to redress societal inequality, leading to the very real prospect of Le Pen, Starmer will follow the Macron path.

We should fear what 2 terms of Starmer inactivity will mean for the electability of extreme right wing politics, in 2029.

[Beso]

I think ordinarily, your views on this reform nonsense would be spot on, but I think this is a different time. The neoliberal/capitalist destruction of living standards in favour of corporate profits, means people are desperate. Just as we have seen in France with a centrist Macron, doing absolutely nothing to redress societal inequality, leading to the very real prospect of Le Pen, Starmer will follow the Macron path.

We should fear what 2 terms of Starmer inactivity will mean for the electability of extreme right wing politics, in 2029.

Labour have already started to try and become more palatable to the right wing voters, take a look at their tv campaign adverts for instance.. hardly a black face in them this time.:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Basildon recount could and should be the 5th Reform seat

[user104658]

I think ordinarily, your views on this reform nonsense would be spot on, but I think this is a different time. The neoliberal/capitalist destruction of living standards in favour of corporate profits, means people are desperate. Just as we have seen in France with a centrist Macron, doing absolutely nothing to redress societal inequality, leading to the very real prospect of Le Pen, Starmer will follow the Macron path.

We should fear what 2 terms of Starmer inactivity will mean for the electability of extreme right wing politics, in 2029.

I agree that there will be a swing back the other way but I'd put a 70%-ish certainty that Labour will scrape another 5 years at the next GE, and by the time the pendulum has fully swung back the Tories will have patched themselves up. Who knows though - as recently as Boris I'd have said that the Tories were unbeatable.

[Zizu]

All that noise for what ??

3 seats

LOL


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[user104658]

All that noise for what ??

3 seats

LOL


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Now now Zizu don't poke fun - some overzealous individuals were creaming their boxers last night when they thought Nige was getting 10+ seats and are still very very excited at the prospect of 4 or 5. It's exciting times for UKIP.

[Liam-]

The reform result just goes to show how much the media and talking heads overestimated Reforms capabilities, an obvious protest vote was made to seem like an avalanche, an exit poll predicting 13 seats, to end up with only 4? The same amount as the Greens who have vastly less money and backing :laugh:

[Liam-]

Saw people before the exit poll genuinely celebrating thinking Farage would be the leader of the opposition :joker:

[Livia]

Your smiley/laughing emoticons shows how little you understand what has happened.

[arista]

If England had PR

Reform UK would have had 93 MP's

Worked out on TV.

[arista]

All that noise for what ??

3 seats

LOL




4 Seats is good.

Some said only Farage would get a seat

[Beso]

Saw people before the exit poll genuinely celebrating thinking Farage would be the leader of the opposition :joker:

He kind of will be.

[Zizu]

Now now Zizu don't poke fun - some overzealous individuals were creaming their boxers last night when they thought Nige was getting 10+ seats and are still very very excited at the prospect of 4 or 5. It's exciting times for UKIP.


3 , 4 or 5 seats equates to a park bench basically

:)


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[arista]

Reform now has 5 MP's


https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1809262665690120249

[Oliver_W]

Have the chavs yelling over Farage's speech earlier today been discussed in the election thread?

[Mystic Mock]

Yes it's called "Reform" you might have heard of them. AKA also, "The Brexit Party".

I'm talking about UKIP as in the official name, not the unofficial rebrand.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

I think ordinarily, your views on this reform nonsense would be spot on, but I think this is a different time. The neoliberal/capitalist destruction of living standards in favour of corporate profits, means people are desperate. Just as we have seen in France with a centrist Macron, doing absolutely nothing to redress societal inequality, leading to the very real prospect of Le Pen, Starmer will follow the Macron path.

We should fear what 2 terms of Starmer inactivity will mean for the electability of extreme right wing politics, in 2029.

I don't believe that Starmer will get two terms.

I think that he'll be an underwhelming leader (which the Tory Media will pounce on) plus the Tories will pick a candidate that their base actually likes, and that's Starmer out.

[Zizu]

I don't believe that Starmer will get two terms.

I think that he'll be an underwhelming leader (which the Tory Media will pounce on) plus the Tories will pick a candidate that their base actually likes, and that's Starmer out.


I see Angela Rayner backstabbing him the first time it becomes obvious that the country is losing faith in him


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[Mystic Mock]

I see Angela Rayner backstabbing him the first time it becomes obvious that the country is losing faith in him


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I hope that you're wrong on that.

We need a Government in this country that's not trying to oust their leader.

[Zizu]

I hope that you're wrong on that.

We need a Government in this country that's not trying to oust their leader.


I see her as being very ambitious !!

He has been criminally misguided in choosing her as is number two .. he’s clearly learnt nothing from Game of Thrones :)


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[bots]

I see her as being very ambitious !!

He has been criminally misguided in choosing her as is number two .. he’s clearly learnt nothing from Game of Thrones :)


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your not understanding how labour chooses it's leader and deputy. Both are chosen by labour party members so Keir has no say in who the deputy is. Also, it's a lot more difficult to oust a labour leader than it is to get rid of a tory one

[Mystic Mock]

I see her as being very ambitious !!

He has been criminally misguided in choosing her as is number two .. he’s clearly learnt nothing from Game of Thrones :)


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House Rayner is being suspected of evil, but will Zizu be proven wrong?

Tune into the next four years of "Life."

[The Slim Reaper]

I don't believe that Starmer will get two terms.

I think that he'll be an underwhelming leader (which the Tory Media will pounce on) plus the Tories will pick a candidate that their base actually likes, and that's Starmer out.

No way tories get back in after one term away. Memories of the last 14 years will still be fresh. Lab will re-run party gate adverts and Johnson quotes about letting bodies pile high. One term governments don't happen in this country,

[bots]

No way tories get back in after one term away. Memories of the last 14 years will still be fresh. Lab will re-run party gate adverts and Johnson quotes about letting bodies pile high. One term governments don't happen in this country,


Apparently Boris has produced a 10 point plan to win the next election. If thats not incentive to give labour a 2nd term, i don't know what is

[user104658]

I'm talking about UKIP as in the official name, not the unofficial rebrand.:laugh:

Well UKIP was the UK Independence Party which was about leaving the UK to keep the immigrants away.

Then we had the EU vote

So they became the "Brexit Party" which was about "getting Brexit donnneee" to keep the immigrants away.

Then Brexit got done

So they became Reform which was supposedly about "Normal Working Brits". But we all know it's actually 'cos they don't think the UK govt is doing a good enough job with those pesky immigrants.

The name's only changed because it had to.

[The Slim Reaper]

Apparently Boris has produced a 10 point plan to win the next election. If thats not incentive to give labour a 2nd term, i don't know what is

This election was a tactical voting one to get tories out, the next will be the same to "keep them out." It's just not remotely plausible the tories get back in so soon, especially with Tory charlatans like Boris and Truss ready to pop back out and remind everyone why the tories were hated to begin with :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Apparently Boris has produced a 10 point plan to win the next election. If thats not incentive to give labour a 2nd term, i don't know what is

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/03/11/53725099-10471773-image-m-23_1643888680282.jpg

[Zizu]

This election was a tactical voting one to get tories out, the next will be the same to "keep them out." It's just not remotely plausible the tories get back in so soon, especially with Tory charlatans like Boris and Truss ready to pop back out and remind everyone why the tories were hated to begin with :laugh:


You seem to have forgotten that it was the MILLIONS who voted for Boris that put the Tories in power …


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[The Slim Reaper]

You seem to have forgotten that it was the MILLIONS who voted for Boris that put the Tories in power …


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What does that have to do with anything? That was 5 years ago, and a lot has happened since then, especially concerning Boris and his bumbling clown act. The public don't buy it any more.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What does Reform need to overtake the Tories? Fewer than 340k voters

Nigel Farage’s party may only have five MPs to its name but, for them, this is only the beginning

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2024/07/05/TELEMMGLPICT000384549463_17202013832810_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT 8.jpeg?imwidth=600

Nigel Farage’s plan to be prime minister in five years’ time may seem far-
fetched, but it would take fewer than 340,000 voters to switch to Reform UK for
the party to overtake the Tories and become the official opposition, a Telegraph
analysis shows.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/06/reform-plan-overtake-tories-340k-votes-general-election/

[GiRTh]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/03/11/53725099-10471773-image-m-23_1643888680282.jpg:laugh::laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

No way tories get back in after one term away. Memories of the last 14 years will still be fresh. Lab will re-run party gate adverts and Johnson quotes about letting bodies pile high. One term governments don't happen in this country,

I just think that the Tory Media will exaggerate any mistakes that Starmer makes, plus the Tories will pick a much more popular candidate than Sunak next time I think.

[Mystic Mock]

This election was a tactical voting one to get tories out, the next will be the same to "keep them out." It's just not remotely plausible the tories get back in so soon, especially with Tory charlatans like Boris and Truss ready to pop back out and remind everyone why the tories were hated to begin with :laugh:

I'm still amazed that the Tories got away with David Cameron's awful run with Nick Clegg.:joker:

[Beso]

The worst thing is...

We've got 14 years of that **** again.

[arista]

Labour Business Secretary
on every show
spreading lies about Reform UK
claiming they want Russian politics.

Utter Bollocks from him.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR9kh6xW4AAoEyd?format=jpg&name=small

[Glenn.]

You're right LT,.

Stupid Glenn.,. Making daft mistakes in his posts!,.

:laugh2: Nigel Farage would never make a typo I bet, not with his handful of MP'.s backing him up.,..,

What MPs? Most of them don’t exist :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR9kh6xW4AAoEyd?format=jpg&name=small

Proud day for our Nigel

:clap1:

[Liam-]

What MPs? Most of them don’t exist :joker:

72 hours for a scandal, I’m actually kind of impressed

[Mystic Mock]

72 hours for a scandal, I’m actually kind of impressed

What's the scandal?

[Liam-]

What's the scandal?

Fake, unfindable candidates standing for reform in the election

[Mystic Mock]

Fake, unfindable candidates standing for reform in the election

That's admittedly weird.

There were no photographs or anything of these candidates?

[arista]

The new 5 Reform UK
MP's went into to parliament today

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/09/11/87106431-13615041-image-a-37_1720521361112.jpg
(L to R)
Lee Anderson MP
Nigel Farage MP
Rupert Lowe MP
Richard Tice MP
James McMurdock MP aged 38

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/09/12/87107415-13615041-image-a-44_1720523335209.jpg

[Oliver_W]

Fake, unfindable candidates standing for reform in the election

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The summary is that no, there's no evidence they were using fake candidates.

For anyone who actually cares about the truth:
One of the main people the Graun and others accused being fake had touched up his picture with AI, so that must mean he's an entirely fake person. He isn't, and appeared in news shows and social media clips to prove otherwise.
Another thing is when candidates didn't have much in the way of details on the listing pages. This isn't terribly unusual, and the vid showed how some other party candidates in the same constituency as one of the examples also had no details.
"Paper candidates" are used by most smaller parties - someone who won't win their seat but only exists to get votes which will count toward the "popular vote."

[bots]

reform will have a big enough job defending the behaviour of their mp's over the coming months :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

reform will have a big enough job defending the behaviour of their mp's over the coming months :laugh:

Exactly, attack them for issues which are actually there instead of making some up :laugh:.

[Mystic Mock]

The new 5 Reform UK
MP's went into to parliament today

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/09/11/87106431-13615041-image-a-37_1720521361112.jpg
(L to R)
Lee Anderson MP
Nigel Farage MP
Rupert Lowe MP
Richard Tice MP
James McMurdock MP aged 38

Well they're certainly not following any DEI.:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well they're certainly not following any DEI.:joker:

Thank goodness

we do not need that left-wing bollocks

[Mystic Mock]

Thank goodness

we do not need that left-wing bollocks

You know that you love it really LT.

You want an MP to identify as a Spivak.

[user104658]

:joker: what a shower of absolute twats.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Fake, unfindable candidates standing for reform in the election

Sadly for you and the far left online blog the Byline times that story was FAKE NEWS

Please don't use this thread to spread far-left lies

thanks

[The Slim Reaper]

1811347815332733337

[bots]

Reform UK is a limited company. Farage can do as he wants with it. It in no way resembles a proper political party

[Crimson Dynamo]

Makes sense to give the position to a sitting MP

[Cherie]

This guy won by 98 votes

A newly elected Reform MP said he was “deeply sorry” after it emerged he had spent a week in a young offenders institution nearly 20 years ago for assaulting a former girlfriend.

James McMurdock, who won the South Basildon and East Thurrock seat at the general election by just 98 votes from Labour, admitted the incident and said it had happened on a drunken night out.

The Daily Mail, which first revealed the details, said it had spoken to the victim’s mother, who said Mr McMurdock had “left marks” on her daughter’s body.

In a statement, Mr McMurdock said: “This is the biggest regret of my life and I wish I could go back and fix things.”

'Law breakers can't be law makers'
Reform returned five MPs at the general election. The most high-profile was Nigel Farage, who won in Clacton, but little was known about Mr McMurdock, who was described by his leader as a “paper candidate” who had joined the party only in May.

Rival parties said Mr McMurdock, 38, should have explained his past to the electorate before polling day.

Gavin Callaghan, the Labour leader of Basildon Borough Council, posted on X: “Law breakers can’t be law makers. This is a deeply disturbing story about our new MP in South Basildon and East Thurrock.

“If Reform UK knew about his criminal record before the election, why were they not honest about this with the public?”

According to the Daily Mail, Mr McMurdock pleaded guilty to one count of assault at Chelmsford Crown Court. He was working as a barman at the time.

In the report, the woman’s mother said there was “no way he should be an MP”.

Reform told the newspaper it was aware of the conviction but “believe strongly that people can change their lives”.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn083wy3e7po

[Crimson Dynamo]

He is an inspiration to all lags that you can turn your life around for the better

:clap1:

[user104658]

A Reform candidate with a conviction for domestic violence? Well I for one am SHOCKED by this news. Shocked that he was convicted, obviously, because most simply get away with it.

[user104658]

He is an inspiration to all lags that you can turn your life around for the better

:clap1:

A big round of applause for the bloke who used to smack his girlfriends around eh LT. Unwavering support, whatever it takes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A big round of applause for the bloke who used to smack his girlfriends around eh LT. Unwavering support, whatever it takes.

He served his time and has moved on and up with his life. Get a grip and stop wading in muddy culture war puddles 24/7

[user104658]

He served his time and has moved on and up with his life. Get a grip and stop wading in muddy culture war puddles 24/7

A bloke beating up his girlfriends is not "culture war stuff" but the fact that you pop it in the same bubble is extremely telling.

If some handsy ******* beat up one of your daughters, did a year and a half in Glenochil and then landed himself a 75k salary as a representative of the public, would you be clapping?

[Crimson Dynamo]

A bloke beating up his girlfriends is not "culture war stuff" but the fact that you pop it in the same bubble is extremely telling.

If some handsy ******* beat up one of your daughters, did a year and a half in Glenochil and then landed himself a 75k salary as a representative of the public, would you be clapping?

He pushed someone like 20 years ago

stop ranting and leave my family out of it

[Liam-]

A convicted woman beater alongside a handful of racists definitely perfectly represents Reform actually

[Beso]

Never judge the man, judge his actions.

Hes done his time and done the crime. No excuses, and he will have to live with it. I'm assuming after all these years the girlfriend has moved on and is bow with a better man, and over the memory.

[bots]

Never judge the man, judge his actions.

Hes done his time and done the crime. No excuses, and he will have to live with it. I'm assuming after all these years the girlfriend has moved on and is bow with a better man, and over the memory.

yes, but don't you think all candidates should be transparent about their past and let the voters decide if it's something that is important to them or not

[user104658]

He pushed someone like 20 years ago


Oh he only liked smacking his girlfriends around in the past. An outspoken voice against domestic violence now is he? I mean I could respect that, if it was the case, which I doubt, as he's grown up and become a Reform MP.

Thank you for confirming that the "forgive and forget" LARP only apples because you don't actually have to think about or personally know the people in his past. Reassuring to know that your political trolling does have SOME limits, at least.

[arista]

A big round of applause for the bloke who used to smack his girlfriends around eh LT. Unwavering support, whatever it takes.


When he got drunk

[user104658]

yes, but don't you think all candidates should be transparent about their past and let the voters decide if it's something that is important to them or not

If they have a conviction for a violent crime (of any kind) they shouldn't be able to stand as a candidate. At all, full stop, without exception.

[user104658]

When he got drunk

You don't say! Well, that's the first I've heard of alcohol making violent men start throwing hands at their partners. The twists and turns in this story!

[user104658]

Next you'll be telling me he's not violent any more "because he doesn't drink any more" :joker:. 'twas the demon in the bottle, I tells ya, not his own actions :fist:.

[Beso]

yes, but don't you think all candidates should be transparent about their past and let the voters decide if it's something that is important to them or not

Yes, 100 percent.

And an action we can now judge him on.:blush:

[user104658]

And an action we can now judge him on.:blush:

Not according to LT he says to leave the wee fella alone, he only wanted to shove his girlfriend about a bit when he was a young'un, he's an upstanding Reform MP now.

[Glenn.]

People now excusing domestic abuse. Some people just aren’t worth the air they breathe.

[Glenn.]

These people excusing domestic abuse are the same people who are making such a noise about women’s rights :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

twat

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[Beso]

Oh no..no more classics like cock pushups, or **** her gently, sang in a clown outfit..

What's the world going to do!!

[Cherie]

I nearly totalled the car today when someone rang in to Ben Kentish to say his experience in jail will make him a better MP cause he has experience of how they are run from the inside


He spent a WEEK in young offenders 20 years ago :joker:

Why not have a few rapist MPs or some shop lifters or fraudsters to give us that lived experience...oh maybe we have had a few of those already :think:

[Beso]

No cherie..a toolmakers son as PM is all we need for them all to resonate with the public.

[Beso]

17 yr old kid commits assault and does his time...still a bad man 25 years later.

17 yr old kid commits assault on farage, it's funny.

That's SB to a T.

[bots]

The reform party paid an outside agency to select and vet their candidates. That agency didn't do their job. That's why some of the candidates ended up being problematic. That's the reality of what happened. Ultimately, Farage has to take responsibility for the quality of candidates selected because it's his party, he actually owns it.

[Liam-]

The outside company that was paid doesn’t do the vetting, they supply the network for companies to do the vetting themselves, which they make very clear on their website, Farage is a loser that in reality has no idea what he’s doing, it blames everyone but himself for his own failures and if anybody really thinks that he’s unhappy with the swarms of racists and thugs they chose to let stand, I’ve got a lovely chocolate teapot to sell you

[user104658]

17 yr old kid commits assault and does his time...still a bad man 25 years later.

17 yr old kid commits assault on farage, it's funny.

That's SB to a T.

"Throwing a milkshake at a stranger is the same as being physically violent towards your girlfriend"

I guess that's Parmy to a T? :think: very weird comparison, telling on yourself an awful lot these days Parmy. Angry angry little man.

Anyway - I didn't say that someone who made a mistake 25 years ago couldn't change and be a better man. He certainly could regret his actions, and I'd accept that if there was any sign of that. However, 25 years later he has become an MP for the Gammon, Beer and Misogyny party so I'm fairly confident that he has not changed one bit.

[Beso]

Throwing a milkshake at a stranger is the same as being physically violent towards your girlfriend"


By law. Yes. Yes it is.

[user104658]

The reform party paid an outside agency to select and vet their candidates. That agency didn't do their job. That's why some of the candidates ended up being problematic. That's the reality of what happened. Ultimately, Farage has to take responsibility for the quality of candidates selected because it's his party, he actually owns it.

Meh. They rushed through a policy of "we'll take literally anyone" as a scattershot in the hopes that, by the numbers, they'd squeak a few through the door if they had a candidate in every single constituency. That "plan" was a success but it really was inevitable that the quality of the candidates was going to be in the gutter. Not one of those blokes was voted for, as an individual, by the voters... They were voting for the party name, or basically, voting for Farage-by-proxy.

I bet 90% of the people who voted for these chaps wouldn't remember their name today if you asked them, without looking it up :idc:. "It was... Uhh... Y'know... The guy... The Nigel Farage party one..."

[user104658]

Throwing a milkshake at a stranger is the same as being physically violent towards your girlfriend"


By law. Yes. Yes it is.

"By law" :idc: luckily we're not in a court Parmy so can freely state that throwing a milkshake at a public figure is absolutely nothing like battering your wife. Don't be dim.

[bots]

Meh. They rushed through a policy of "we'll take literally anyone" as a scattershot in the hopes that, by the numbers, they'd squeak a few through the door if they had a candidate in every single constituency. That "plan" was a success but it really was inevitable that the quality of the candidates was going to be in the gutter. Not one of those blokes was voted for, as an individual, by the voters... They were voting for the party name, or basically, voting for Farage-by-proxy.

I bet 90% of the people who voted for these chaps wouldn't remember their name today if you asked them, without looking it up :idc:. "It was... Uhh... Y'know... The guy... The Nigel Farage party one..."

i think that applies to all the political parties, most certainly for all those up against the big names that lost their seats :laugh:

For example, the only thing i remember about the Jacob RM election was that he stood next to a guy with a baked beans hat

[Beso]

"By law" :idc: luckily we're not in a court Parmy so can freely state that throwing a milkshake at a public figure is absolutely nothing like battering your wife. Don't be dim.

What if it was your wife you through the milkshake over?

[Cherie]

My gripe with this is that he won by 98 votes, maybe all those were females who might not have voted for him if this was common knowledge, if he had won by some massive margin it might not be so bad but 98 votes?

[user104658]

What if it was your wife you through the milkshake over?

It would be far worse (morally) than throwing one over a stranger, in the same way that name-calling is a form of domestic abuse in a relationship that doesn't apply when you're talking to someone else, however in any scenario throwing a milkshake is blatantly not the same as an act of violence intended to cause actual physical harm.

[user104658]

My gripe with this is that he won by 98 votes, maybe all those were females who might not have voted for him if this was common knowledge, if he had won by some massive margin it might not be so bad but 98 votes?

I was going to say there'd probably be males who would have thought twice if they knew about it but then I remembered they're Reform voters, so probably not.

[Beso]

It would be far worse (morally) than throwing one over a stranger, in the same way that name-calling is a form of domestic abuse in a relationship that doesn't apply when you're talking to someone else, however in any scenario throwing a milkshake is blatantly not the same as an act of violence intended to cause actual physical harm.

Mental abuse for some is worse than physical abuse.

[user104658]

Mental abuse for some is worse than physical abuse.

True but the implications of it being a partner or family member are what make it mental abuse. Thus why a controversial politician having a milkshake poured over them by a member of the public is COMPLETELY different to someone having a drink poured over them by a partner, a parent, or even a friend.

To boil it down to something simpler - obviously it's fine to call a politician a f*ing idiot. It's less fine to call someone who knows you don't like them - or even a friend - a f*ing idiot to their face, but still usually not that serious.

Calling your partner or your kid a f*ing idiot on the other hand, in the heat of the moment is shameful and on a regular basis is flat out abuse.

It is different, quite obviously so.

[Beso]

So because they are politicians they must accept the abuse, even though we are supposed to see them as equals. That dont make sense to me.

[user104658]

So because they are politicians they must accept the abuse, even though we are supposed to see them as equals. That dont make sense to me.

"They" don't have to accept anything, but framing a milkshake being thrown at a politician as similar in any way to domestic abuse is utterly bizarre. You're free to consider it a form of assault. To reiterate for the 5th or 6th time, it bears absolutely no similarity to a bloke physically assaulting his girlfriend.

[user104658]

I don't know what the argument even is, to be fair - as far as I'm aware, the girl who threw the milkshake hasn't become an elected member of Parliament?

[Oliver_W]

I don't know what the argument even is, to be fair - as far as I'm aware, the girl who threw the milkshake hasn't become an elected member of Parliament?

Apparently there's a hierarchy of abuse and assault, and it's very important to establish where everyone fits on it?

[user104658]

Apparently there's a hierarchy of abuse and assault, and it's very important to establish where everyone fits on it?

There's certainly a hierarchy of who should be allowed to serve as an elected representative, and it shouldn't include anyone convicted of any violent offense (including milkshake-girl, tbf)

[Cherie]

The girl who threw the milkshake will be in court in the Autumn, and that is no bad thing in my eyes, nip these things in the bud

[Crimson Dynamo]

There's certainly a hierarchy of who should be allowed to serve as an elected representative, and it shouldn't include anyone convicted of any violent offense (including milkshake-girl, tbf)

Yeah they should only be allowed to break the law after they get elected

As they all seem to do

[user104658]

Yeah they should only be allowed to break the law after they get elected

As they all seem to do

I'm not even saying "anyone who has ever broken a law" - I'd say 100% any violent or sexual offense, I'd extend that to things like fraud, and yes anyone convicted of any of the above after getting into a political office should be removed immediately.

Key thing here also is that he wasn't just "accused of something", it's not cancel-culture, he was clearly charged and found guilty of the offense.

[Glenn.]

Very telling that the men on here who so passionately wave the flag for women’s rights think it’s ok to beat your wife, go to prison and all should be forgiven. Just outright proves the flag waving is all bollocks and maybe they need to sit down and be quiet. Pick a side because the contradiction is nauseating.

[Beso]

I'm not even saying "anyone who has ever broken a law" - I'd say 100% any violent or sexual offense, I'd extend that to things like fraud, and yes anyone convicted of any of the above after getting into a political office should be removed immediately.

Key thing here also is that he wasn't just "accused of something", it's not cancel-culture, he was clearly charged and found guilty of the offense.

In 2012, 43 percent of mps had a criminal conviction...nowadays mps do not have to disclose if they have a criminal conviction, and under the human rights act a freedom of information request on an individual would not be accepted..

I can only assume the percentage is higher now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

No one beat a wife

If you are here to troll around looking to cause discord at least have some basic facts

Jesus wept

[Glenn.]

Bore off. Like anyone can take you seriously anymore. Walking talking contradiction. Absolute joke of a man

[Glenn.]

It even extends to your PROTECT THE KIDS bollocks too. You have kids, daughters if I’m not mistaken. You’re a father to daughters. Tragic as ****

[Beso]

Charming.

[user104658]

No one beat a wife


He was charged and convicted for assaulting his then-girlfriend. If your defence is "Uhh nyuk uhh technically she was not his wife uhh nyuk 🤓" you know you're on shaky ground champ.