Reform UK Party

[bots]

The maga crowd are going down the path of it's not illegal to beat up your girlfriend/wife, so it's pretty obvious where this thread is going

[user104658]

The maga crowd are going down the path of it's not illegal to beat up your girlfriend/wife

Unless they're pregnant because then you might accidentally cause a miscarriage -- and THEN it would be unacceptable. You couldn't make it up, absolutely grim world some people are fapping themselves silly at the thought of.

I have to have some sympathy I guess? I mean, how utterly cucked and disempowered must some men be to actively champion this sort of misogynistic trainwreck society. Some are getting practically giddy at the thought of it. It can only come from the mindset of a sad, sad, frustrated past.

[Parmy]

Anything to gain the muslim vote I guess.

[Cherie]

Very telling that the men on here who so passionately wave the flag for women’s rights think it’s ok to beat your wife, go to prison and all should be forgiven. Just outright proves the flag waving is all bollocks and maybe they need to sit down and be quiet. Pick a side because the contradiction is nauseating.

You can talk, you think its okay for any man who decides he wants to, to access womens spaces and sport, you are not covered in glory either

[Crimson Dynamo]

He was charged and convicted for assaulting his then-girlfriend. If your defence is "Uhh nyuk uhh technically she was not his wife uhh nyuk 🤓" you know you're on shaky ground champ.

he pushed over a girl when they were having a drunk row outside when he was a young lad, he served his time repented and went on to make something of his life which is to be greatly applauded

I know you and glen are desperate for it to be more for some perverse reason but that is what happened

and frankly using an assault like this to try and score points in your imaginary culture war is just incredibly petty - have you both not better things to do with your day?


:umm2:

[Parmy]

In 2012, 43 percent of mps had a criminal conviction...nowadays mps do not have to disclose if they have a criminal conviction, and under the human rights act a freedom of information request on an individual would not be accepted..

I can only assume the percentage is higher now.




43percent...that's massive, that's nearly 50 percent.

The national average is 33 percent....:conf:


And we are allowing this....we are mugs.

[user104658]

he pushed over a girl when they were having a drunk row outside when he was a young lad, he served his time repented and went on to make something of his life which is to be greatly applauded

I know you and glen are desperate for it to be more for some perverse reason but that is what happened

and frankly using an assault like this to try and score points in your imaginary culture war is just incredibly petty - have you both not better things to do with your day?


:umm2:

Yes he assaulted his girlfriend. We're clear on that. You think it should need to be "more" to be consequential. That's unsurprising, too. Bang on character, in fact.

If he'd thrown a happymeal at some mouthy old twat you'd be calling for a hangin'. Which is also unsurprising champ.

[user104658]

43percent...that's massive, that's nearly 50 percent.

The national average is 33 percent....:conf:


And we are allowing this....we are mugs.

Most of it will be for fraud and tax dodging, which is bad enough.

[Parmy]

Most of it will be for fraud and tax dodging, which is bad enough.

I would argue those are worse crimes for a politician to commit than assault.:shrug:

[Parmy]

Yes he assaulted his girlfriend. We're clear on that. You think it should need to be "more" to be consequential. That's unsurprising, too. Bang on character, in fact.

If he'd thrown a happymeal at some mouthy old twat you'd be calling for a hangin'. Which is also unsurprising champ.



What would you call for if he had done that?

[user104658]

I would argue those are worse crimes for a politician to commit than assault.:shrug:

They're more concerning for the job they're going to be doing - they're certainly not morally worse. Nothing worse than a wife-beater. Scum of the earth.

[Parmy]

They're more concerning for the job they're going to be doing - they're certainly not morally worse. Nothing worse than a wife-beater. Scum of the earth.

I would say ian Watkins is just slightly worse.

[user104658]

I would say ian Watkins is just slightly worse.

We're obviously not talking about the extremes of child abusers, psychopaths and hardened criminals Parmy. We're talking the scumbags that lurk on every street.

[Parmy]

We're obviously not talking about the extremes of child abusers, psychopaths and hardened criminals Parmy. We're talking the scumbags that lurk on every street.

Ah..ok.

What about the question before that?

What would you call for if someone tossed a happy meal over a mouthy old twat?

[user104658]

Ah..ok.

What about the question before that?

What would you call for if someone tossed a happy meal over a mouthy old twat?

If that person was charged and convicted of an assault, they shouldn't be eligible to be a public representative.

[Parmy]

If that person was charged and convicted of an assault, they shouldn't be eligible to be a public representative.

And you also think LT would want that same person hanged?


Does the sun shine out your arse as well?

[user104658]

And you also think LT would want that same person hanged?


Does the sun shine out your arse as well?

There's a thread about the incident described not too far back if you want to see LT's thoughts on McDonald's throwing.

Suffice to say - he's a teeny tad less forgiving of it than he is of this Reform fellow getting drunk and beating up girls in his youth. How "baffling". I "wonder why". Other than the fact that he seems critically unable to keep Nigel Farage's balls off his chin for more than 5 minutes at a time.

Trump seems to be doing it for him more this week though. More Orange, you see.

[Parmy]

Soldier Boy.

What if the politician as a teenager had thrown milkshake over his mouthy young twat of a girlfriend in public!

How would you view that?

[user104658]

Soldier Boy.

What if the politician as a teenager had thrown milkshake over his mouthy young twat of a girlfriend in public!

How would you view that?

If you want to ask the question properly I might answer it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

There's a thread about the incident described not too far back if you want to see LT's thoughts on McDonald's throwing.

Suffice to say - he's a teeny tad less forgiving of it than he is of this Reform fellow getting drunk and beating up girls in his youth. How "baffling". I "wonder why". Other than the fact that he seems critically unable to keep Nigel Farage's balls off his chin for more than 5 minutes at a time.

Trump seems to be doing it for him more this week though. More Orange, you see.

He did not beat up a girl and your constant lying about what happened is beneath you


pathetic SB, away to your bed as you are coming across as a right dick

[Parmy]

If you want to ask the question properly I might answer it.

You understand the question.


But I will try again..

What would you say on here if the teenage lad threw a milkshake over his mouthy young twat of a girlfriend in front of members of the public?

[jet]

he pushed over a girl when they were having a drunk row outside when he was a young lad, he served his time repented and went on to make something of his life which is to be greatly applauded

I know you and glen are desperate for it to be more for some perverse reason but that is what happened

and frankly using an assault like this to try and score points in your imaginary culture war is just incredibly petty - have you both not better things to do with your day?


:umm2:

It seems not. SB currently gets his kicks following you around exaggerating everything you say to paint you in the worst possible light. If it wasn’t you, it would be someone else. He has form. When people may feel powerless in their real lives, they resort to smart - ass online harassment of fellow posters to feel better about themselves. They think it makes them appear amusing and awesome. It doesn’t, SB.

[user104658]

He did not beat up a girl and your constant lying about what happened is beneath you


pathetic SB, away to your bed as you are coming across as a right dick

He physically assaulted his girlfriend. He shoved her, that is physical assault. It appears you don't think so? Have you maybe had a bit of a "push about" in the past and don't want to think of it as domestic abuse and assault? I'd like to think not - but I'm struggling to grasp why you can't get your head around the fact that it is, by definition, both assault and domestic abuse to push your partner in a physically aggressive way.

I imagine I am coming across as a dick, as I am being a dick to you, on purpose, and for good reason. Thank you for confirming that it's coming across as intended. Feel free to report etc.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It seems not. SB currently gets his kicks following you around exaggerating everything you say to paint you in the worst possible light. If it wasn’t you, it would be someone else. He has form. When people may feel powerless in their real lives, they resort to smart - ass online harassment of fellow posters to feel better about themselves. They think it makes them appear amusing and awesome. It doesn’t, SB.

He has had countless personal comments removed just in the last week - its a worrying trend Jet for sure and now he is aligning himself with glen and his caustic worldview

I don't know what is actually going on, for sure

[Parmy]

"I imagine I am coming across as a dick, as I am being a dick to you, on purpose, and for good reason. Thank you for confirming that it's coming across as intended. Feel free to report etc."

Well it's a good job you and LT aren't married SB, cause that would be abuse.

[jet]

He has had countless personal comments removed just in the last week - its a worrying trend Jet for sure and now he is aligning himself with glen and his caustic worldview

I don't know what is actually going on, for sure

I know, I saw the comments. It's uncalled for. Arguing their stance versus yours is one thing, being deliberately provocative and unpleasant is quite another.

[user104658]

It seems not. SB currently gets his kicks following you around exaggerating everything you say to paint you in the worst possible light. If it wasn’t you, it would be someone else. He has form. When people may feel powerless in their real lives, they resort to smart - ass online harassment of fellow posters to feel better about themselves. They think it makes them appear amusing and awesome. It doesn’t, SB.

I am 100% not trying to be even slightly funny recently Jet - that seems to have escaped your keen senses.

I'm irked because I liked TiBB and it's been utterly, utterly wrecked. Plenty of minions involved but I'm especially irked by LT because he's smack at the centre of it but the staff simply do not care. The place has become a right-wing ****hole and that makes me a wee bit sad.

The staff know it's wrecked. That's why LT has seen my posts being removed, but no infractions, no bans. Because if they start infracting and banning the have to infract and ban the whole lot of us -- not least you, LT. And they just simply don't want to do that. I really have no idea why. But it's a key factor in why the forum is now 90% dead and 99% unusable.

Let me throw my Toy Soldiers out of the pram before the pram is gone :hee:.

[user104658]

"I imagine I am coming across as a dick, as I am being a dick to you, on purpose, and for good reason. Thank you for confirming that it's coming across as intended. Feel free to report etc."

Well it's a good job you and LT aren't married SB, cause that would be abuse.

Yes parmy some unpleasant ways of speaking to and interacting with randoms and strangers that are simply combative in those interactions are abusive in a relationship or family. Is that very very hard to grasp? I;ve said it about 5 different ways.

[Parmy]

Yes parmy some unpleasant ways of speaking to and interacting with randoms and strangers that are simply combative in those interactions are abusive in a relationship or family. Is that very very hard to grasp? I;ve said it about 5 different ways.

Sorry, I only read your angry posts.


I will say though, farage wasnt being combative when he was assaulted, but you laughed away and lapped it up. You then, with absolutely no knowledge of the events that took place with this reform tosspot when he was 17 used it to call him scum, and then go further by being really nasty in your comments to a total stranger on a big brother forum.


All because they are all more right wing than you, in your eyes.


All you are doing is projecting again. People left TIBB because they are gutless and intolerant to the views other people have. Not because of LT.

[Glenn.]

You can talk, you think its okay for any man who decides he wants to, to access womens spaces and sport, you are not covered in glory either

When have I ever said that? I will wait for receipts on this one. You take your time.

[user104658]

Sorry, I only read your angry posts.


I will say though, farage wasnt being combative when he was assaulted, but you laughed away and lapped it up. You then, with absolutely no knowledge of the events that took place with this reform tosspot when he was 17 used it to call him scum, and then go further by being really nasty in your comments to a total stranger on a big brother forum.


All because they are all more right wing than you, in your eyes.


All you are doing is projecting again. People left TIBB because they are gutless and intolerant to the views other people have. Not because of LT.

You can think that I'm wrong, it doesn't really matter? The forum is dead to old members (the ones who stayed as well as the ones who left) and completely unappealing to anyone new (not that there are many anyway, despite new seasons of Big Brother). Dead site. The staff know it. They're barely moderating. That's the death toll of a forum you can hear :shrug:. I don't think it's just my "perception" that the site has slid into utter unmoderated nonsense... it's objectively a fact.

[jet]

I am 100% not trying to be even slightly funny recently Jet - that seems to have escaped your keen senses.

I'm irked because I liked TiBB and it's been utterly, utterly wrecked. Plenty of minions involved but I'm especially irked by LT because he's smack at the centre of it but the staff simply do not care. The place has become a right-wing ****hole and that makes me a wee bit sad.

The staff know it's wrecked. That's why LT has seen my posts being removed, but no infractions, no bans. Because if they start infracting and banning the have to infract and ban the whole lot of us -- not least you, LT. And they just simply don't want to do that. I really have no idea why. But it's a key factor in why the forum is now 90% dead and 99% unusable.

Let me throw my Toy Soldiers out of the pram before the pram is gone :hee:.

Whatever his opinions, LT doesn't attack and belittle other posters. You do. Whatever happened to 'address the posters opinion, not the poster'.

[Glenn.]

As suspected, no response from LT on my valid point about him.

I think that today has finally cemented my opinion on you me old mate.

[user104658]

Whatever his opinions, LT doesn't attack and belittle other posters. You do. Whatever happened to 'address the posters opinion, not the poster'.

He absolutely does and it's not even subtle. He conceals it, but barely, and it is quite hilarious that you either can't see it (or perhaps choose not to). Performative smarmy playing by the non-existent rules. He's also keen to talk about the posts I've had removed whilst conveniently not mentioning the number of his own that are also removed :joker:.

[Parmy]

Well I cant recall seeing any posts other than yours and Glenn's rather vile attacks on LT that have required any moderating in the past few months. Apart from the one with the vile images that only 1 person seems bothered about...but that's in the past now.

Lts views ain't illegal, neither are mine. Maybe some of my wording is problematic for the moderators because it comes out in type a different way to what I'm thinking and makes it look worse than my thought is.

So yeah..personal attacks aside, I've not really seen anything worthy of anyones beady eye.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As suspected, no response from LT on my valid point about him.

I think that today has finally cemented my opinion on you me old mate.

I did respond and as normal you are not across your brief nor do you read past the page you land on

again

You literally have not had a gotcha on here since 2019 :joker:

[user104658]

Well I cant recall seeing any posts other than yours and Glenn's rather vile attacks on LT that have required any moderating in the past few months. Apart from the one with the vile images that only 1 person seems bothered about...but that's in the past now.

Lts views ain't illegal, neither are mine. Maybe some of my wording is problematic for the moderators because it comes out in type a different way to what I'm thinking and makes it look worse than my thought is.

So yeah..personal attacks aside, I've not really seen anything worthy of anyones beady eye.

My last infraction was at the beginning of April, Parmy, so I guess all three of us are A-OK with the rules :hee:. Strange that, given all of the deleted posts and "vile attacks", but hey, who are we to judge?

[jet]

He absolutely does and it's not even subtle. He conceals it, but barely, and it is quite hilarious that you either can't see it (or perhaps choose not to). Performative smarmy playing by the non-existent rules. He's also keen to talk about the posts I've had removed whilst conveniently not mentioning the number of his own that are also removed :joker:.

*sigh* Have a good evening SB.

[Crimson Dynamo]

My last infraction was at the beginning of April, Parmy, so I guess all three of us are A-OK with the rules :hee:. Strange that, given all of the deleted posts and "vile attacks", but hey, who are we to judge?

your personal insult posts are regularly deleted but they don't necessarily result in an infraction each time

I guess the mods just sigh and delete them and wish you did better...

[user104658]

*sigh* Have a good evening SB.

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[Parmy]

TIBBS golden boy doesnt get infracted for insulting other members then.

How come I've had 5 in the past 5 months!!!


No wonder people left..its the unfair moderating cliques. Not right wing views.

[user104658]

your personal insult posts are regularly deleted but they don't necessarily result in an infraction each time

I guess the mods just sigh and delete them and wish you did better...

If you've seen them (which you must have, to know that they've been deleted) and a member of TiBB staff has seen them (which they must have, to delete them) then they've been seen by anyone who needs to see them. Who knows, maybe they'll even figure out why their site has died :shrug:.

Fun that you're still pretending that you don't also have a hefty stack of deleted posts in the TiBB database though. A treat. Like... you know you do, the staff know you do, I know you do, so the only reason you'd be pretending otherwise is for the band of fannies fawning over your **** lowbrow trolling :joker:.

[user104658]

TIBBS golden boy doesnt get infracted for insulting other members then.

How come I've had 5 in the past 5 months!!!


No wonder people left..its the unfair moderating cliques. Not right wing views.

I don't think it can be partisan Parmy -- they don't infract LT either. I assumed they weren't infracting anyone so yes it is a bit crap if you're still getting them (if they are genuinely for similar things).

[Parmy]

I don't think it can be partisan Parmy -- they don't infract LT either. I assumed they weren't infracting anyone so yes it is a bit crap if you're still getting them (if they are genuinely for similar things).And they wonder why I have a gripe about mods breaking the posting rules.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240717/b51f4c50c2f710ebf160f580acc2c201.jpg

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[Glenn.]

I did respond and as normal you are not across your brief nor do you read past the page you land on

again

You literally have not had a gotcha on here since 2019 :joker:

Maybe the post where you addressed your many many contradictions got deleted then.

[Glenn.]

I don't think it can be partisan Parmy -- they don't infract LT either. I assumed they weren't infracting anyone so yes it is a bit crap if you're still getting them (if they are genuinely for similar things).

He just needs to stop with the homophobic stuff and insulting members. I’m glad to see that someone is doing their job on here

[Parmy]

He just needs to stop with the homophobic stuff and insulting members. I’m glad to see that someone is doing their job on here



I'm identifying as they these days...can you edit your post please.

[Glenn.]

Or maybe not

Maybe he just needs to come out

[Mystic Mock]

The maga crowd are going down the path of it's not illegal to beat up your girlfriend/wife, so it's pretty obvious where this thread is going

I never thought that I would be forced to align with the feminists.:joker:

Thank god that I didn't have to align with the Incels though.

[Cherie]

Maybe if you took part in other aspects of the forum rather than SD you would have a better time SB, just a thought? Always arguing and being purposely a dick cant be good for anyone

[Cherie]

I never thought that I would be forced to align with the feminists.:joker:

Thank god that I didn't have to align with the Incels though.

Always a first Mocky :laugh:

[user104658]

Maybe if you took part in other aspects of the forum rather than SD you would have a better time SB, just a thought?

That's the whole point though, isn't it Cherie? We used to have other active sections. I used to engage plenty in tv/movurs/games/etc and even general and dare I say it chat & games was good fun from time to time. But as I said, the forum is trashed. It's been allowed to morph into something that, I can only imagine to a lay person stumbling across it in search of Big Brother chat, is utterly horrifying. Who would join this forum today?? I know I'm only here mostly out of habit/nostalgia and because I genuinely once loved it here. I can only imagine that's the same for most of the old members still holding on.

I'm irked at myself for not seeing it sooner, I'm irked at the Moderators for giving up (although I do 100% understand), but really I'm mainly annoyed at those-in-charge for, ultimately, prioritising and appeasing old-guard membership over having a balanced and functional forum.

I include myself in that - Parmy ain't wrong, I should have been infracted a hundred times over and had multiple bans in the past year. Frankly there are a handful of members who have said things that warrant lengthy bans and would have resulted in them a few years back. Something has changed, policy wise, no one can realistically deny that. Also doesn't go unnoticed that posts like this that mention these things get closed/locked/deleted much quicker than the fighting and insults ;).

Ahh heck maybe I'm too hard on LT - maybe his posts and threads really were always like this. There just used to be a better balance to drown him out a bit more.

[Cherie]

That's the whole point though, isn't it Cherie? We used to have other active sections. I used to engage plenty in tv/movurs/games/etc and even general and dare I say it chat & games was good fun from time to time. But as I said, the forum is trashed. It's been allowed to morph into something that, I can only imagine to a lay person stumbling across it in search of Big Brother chat, is utterly horrifying. Who would join this forum today?? I know I'm only here mostly out of habit/nostalgia and because I genuinely once loved it here. I can only imagine that's the same for most of the old members still holding on.

I'm irked at myself for not seeing it sooner, I'm irked at the Moderators for giving up (although I do 100% understand), but really I'm mainly annoyed at those-in-charge for, ultimately, prioritising and appeasing old-guard membership over having a balanced and functional forum.

I include myself in that - Parmy ain't wrong, I should have been infracted a hundred times over and had multiple bans in the past year. Frankly there are a handful of members who have said things that warrant lengthy bans and would have resulted in them a few years back. Something has changed, policy wise, no one can realistically deny that. Also doesn't go unnoticed that posts like this that mention these things get closed/locked/deleted much quicker than the fighting and insults ;).

Ahh heck maybe I'm too hard on LT - maybe his posts and threads really were always like this. There just used to be a better balance to drown him out a bit more.

I think this might be key :joker:

[jet]

That's the whole point though, isn't it Cherie? We used to have other active sections. I used to engage plenty in tv/movurs/games/etc and even general and dare I say it chat & games was good fun from time to time. But as I said, the forum is trashed. It's been allowed to morph into something that, I can only imagine to a lay person stumbling across it in search of Big Brother chat, is utterly horrifying. Who would join this forum today?? I know I'm only here mostly out of habit/nostalgia and because I genuinely once loved it here. I can only imagine that's the same for most of the old members still holding on.

I'm irked at myself for not seeing it sooner, I'm irked at the Moderators for giving up (although I do 100% understand), but really I'm mainly annoyed at those-in-charge for, ultimately, prioritising and appeasing old-guard membership over having a balanced and functional forum.

I include myself in that - Parmy ain't wrong, I should have been infracted a hundred times over and had multiple bans in the past year. Frankly there are a handful of members who have said things that warrant lengthy bans and would have resulted in them a few years back. Something has changed, policy wise, no one can realistically deny that. Also doesn't go unnoticed that posts like this that mention these things get closed/locked/deleted much quicker than the fighting and insults ;).

Ahh heck maybe I'm too hard on LT - maybe his posts and threads really were always like this. There just used to be a better balance to drown him out a bit more.

Way way back in those ‘good ole days’ as Soldier Boy you were more or less just the same. There were always people in your sights to belittle and in general to show off how superior you are to the average dumbo.
Give over with the ‘LT and the state of this forum makes me do it’ victim cry.
It’s in your nature. Own it!

[Mystic Mock]

Always a first Mocky :laugh:

Too true.:laugh:

[user104658]

Way way back in those ‘good ole days’ as Soldier Boy you were more or less just the same. There were always people in your sights to belittle and in general to show off how superior you are to the average dumbo.
Give over with the ‘LT and the state of this forum makes me do it’ victim cry.
It’s in your nature. Own it!

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I'm trying to defend or justify my posts Jet. I'm pondering my reasoning and giving an explanation to someone who asked. I have little to zero interest in the chip on your shoulder.

[Parmy]

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I'm trying to defend or justify my posts Jet. I'm pondering my reasoning and giving an explanation to someone who asked. I have little to zero interest in the chip on your shoulder.

It's you who has a chip in your shoulder.

It's that big, you are trying your damdest to get this forum shut down.

Why don't you just **** off somewhere else if you dont like it or its users.

[Liam-]

I love when two sides of the same coin fight

[user104658]

It's you who has a chip in your shoulder.

It's that big, you are trying your damdest to get this forum shut down.

Why don't you just **** off somewhere else if you dont like it or its users.

The forum is dead Parmy, I'm not trying to kill it I'm just poking the corpse with a stick, in the sad hope that it might gasp back to life.

[user104658]

I love when two sides of the same coin fight

You'd need to elaborate on that a bit Liam. (Experience dictates that you will not).

[jet]

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I'm trying to defend or justify my posts Jet. I'm pondering my reasoning and giving an explanation to someone who asked. I have little to zero interest in the chip on your shoulder.

Well at least you don't deny that you were always a dick. That's progress.

[Liam-]

You'd need to elaborate on that a bit Liam. (Experience dictates that you will not).

You arguing that LT and his pals have been allowed to create an atmosphere of hostility to old members who have left and new ones who might think of joining, which they most definitely have been, but you yourself have contributed to that exercise heartily and with increasing frequency.

You have all been allowed to make this forum unwelcoming to minorities of all kinds.

It’s like a thief telling another thief not to steal so much

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

You arguing that LT and his pals have been allowed to create an atmosphere of hostility to old members who have left and new ones who might think of joining, which they most definitely have been, but you yourself have contributed to that exercise heartily and with increasing frequency.

You have all been allowed to make this forum unwelcoming to minorities of all kinds.

It’s like a thief telling another thief not to steal so much

Oh so it's about having non-automatically-affirming opinions on issues relating to trans rights (specifically). That's a whole separate debate really. I'd accept the criticism if you can point to me being deliberately mocking, not really interested if it's just for having strong opinions about the need for safeguarding.

[user104658]

Well at least you don't deny that you were always a dick. That's progress.

I'd prefer to frame it as - despite some of LT's bizarre recent accusations - I don't care about, and have never made any attempt to be popular :hee:. Accolades from fellow forum members seem to tickle some people's pickles for a reason I can't quite grasp but, put bluntly, no I'm not going to let someone elses' "safe space" stop me from speaking my mind openly on a debates forum. That unfortunately often means "being a dick" :shrug:.

[Glenn.]

I'd prefer to frame it as - despite some of LT's bizarre recent accusations - I don't care about, and have never made any attempt to be popular :hee:. Accolades from fellow forum members seem to tickle some people's pickles for a reason I can't quite grasp but, put bluntly, no I'm not going to let someone elses' "safe space" stop me from speaking my mind openly on a debates forum. That unfortunately often means "being a dick" :shrug:.

There’s a couple of people on here desperate to be loved and adored to the point they will go out of their way to use it as an insult towards you. It’s sad.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[jet]

I'd prefer to frame it as - despite some of LT's bizarre recent accusations - I don't care about, and have never made any attempt to be popular :hee:. Accolades from fellow forum members seem to tickle some people's pickles for a reason I can't quite grasp but, put bluntly, no I'm not going to let someone elses' "safe space" stop me from speaking my mind openly on a debates forum. That unfortunately often means "being a dick" :shrug:.

I’m no more interested in your popularity or the lack of it as I am of my own.

It must be said that your straightforward posts are often interesting and worth a read, but “speaking your mind” (over the years) has often included snide, smart - assy, insulting comments aimed at certain people and an unfortunate sense of your own superiority. Most posters here don't feel the need to regularly 'speak their mind' in that way. It's not really a welcome sight for newcomers to a debate forum, (or a skilled debate technique). Did you ever consider that you might have (even a little) contributed to what you call this ‘dead’ forum?

[user104658]

I’m no more interested in your popularity or the lack of it as I am of my own.

It must be said that your straightforward posts are often interesting and worth a read, but “speaking your mind” (over the years) has often included snide, smart - assy, insulting comments aimed at certain people and an unfortunate sense of your own superiority. Most posters here don't feel the need to regularly 'speak their mind' in that way. It's not really a welcome sight for newcomers to a debate forum, (or a skilled debate technique). Did you ever consider that you might have (even a little) contributed to what you call this ‘dead’ forum?

Maybe it's really myself I'm mad at :worry:.

In all seriousness though, yes, but I think it was because of being frustrated/blinkered about a specific issue :hee:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel Farage MP
@Nigel_Farage


I will be LIVE on @GBNEWS
from #RNC2024 at 7pm UK time. 🚨

[Glenn.]

You can talk, you think its okay for any man who decides he wants to, to access womens spaces and sport, you are not covered in glory either

Still waiting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Still waiting.

Outside where?

[Parmy]

Still waiting.

I think cherie got it slightly wrong..

I think what you've been saying is nobody can say they cant.:shrug:

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Cherie]

As if I am going to trawl through Glenns past posts :laugh:

[Glenn.]

Maybe in future, don’t make **** up. You’ve made a fool of yourself.

[Livia]

Cherie is the furthest thing from a fool. One of the most intelligent people on here and a no-bullshit zone.

[Cherie]

Cherie is the furthest thing from a fool. One of the most intelligent people on here and a no-bullshit zone.

Thank you Liv, his opinion of me doesn't matter to me :laugh:

[user104658]

Thank you Liv, his opinion of me doesn't matter to me :laugh:

Cherie would never let a popularity contest stop her from speaking her mind on a debates forum, she's learned from the best :clap1:

(me)

[arista]

1815796509465551356

[Mystic Mock]

Are some of Gen Z secretly Pokemon?

[Glenn.]

Cherie is the furthest thing from a fool. One of the most intelligent people on here and a no-bullshit zone.

She did make a fool of herself though. She lied about me. She had the chance to back up what she said but couldn’t. Fool made :thumbs:

[Cherie]

She did make a fool of herself though. She lied about me. She had the chance to back up what she said but couldn’t. Fool made :thumbs:

Listen lets no go there after your recent percentage fail :laugh: On here every hour of the day but pretending you have only just seen Liv's comment is another fail for you I am afraid. Have you just come up with the response? too busy on your calculator maybe?

[Nicky91]

2024 is a good year for Legendary Farage


winning best news presenter award and also winning more seats in the elections with his amazing party



haters keep hating and Sexy Nigel keeps slaying

[arista]

1815832493070684486

[Glenn.]

Listen lets no go there after your recent percentage fail :laugh: On here every hour of the day but pretending you have only just seen Liv's comment is another fail for you I am afraid. Have you just come up with the response? too busy on your calculator maybe?

Yet you STILL can’t back up the tripe that’s come out of your mouth. Silly silly woman

[Parmy]

Yet you STILL can’t back up the tripe that’s come out of your mouth. Silly silly woman



Something this man would never say.


https://youtube.com/shorts/SUIfgEM_02E?si=HO--5S5ewTv8SQ84

[Cherie]

oooo noooo a double silly claim from Glenn... how will I cope

[Glenn.]

Embarrassing

[Cherie]

Anyway

[arista]

Reform UK has now added
3 Welsh councillors

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/reform-now-first-three-councillors-29768930

GBnewsHD Live

[arista]

The Criminal that Chucked stuff at Farage
on his double-decker bus

Has got 120 day of community service

And a Suspended Sentence

If he does it again, Jail.


Ref: SkyNewsHD

[Parmy]

The Criminal that Chucked stuff at Farage
on his double-decker bus

Has got 120 day of community service

And a Suspended Sentence

If he does it again, Jail.


Ref: SkyNewsHD

Sounds fair, it's not like he shouted loudly at an officer of the law, cause then he would have been in serious trouble, and tibb would be shouting for the hanging tree.

[arista]

4PM Live

Leader Nigel Farage
at the Birmingham Reform UK Conference/.


SkyNewsHD
GBnewsHD
Times Radio

[arista]

Lee Anderson MP Live

In Birmingham,

on GBnewsHD

[arista]

Nigel Farage Now Live

All Media.

[arista]

He just put Glasses on
he said they are very Expensive.
I bought them Myself

[arista]

Live on all 3 News Channels

[Kate!]

Fantastic ongoing speech by Nigel

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXzHmzeXUAEe_ra?format=jpg&name=small

[Kate!]

Letting Starmer have it. Go Nige!

[arista]

Nigel has concluded his speech


He said it does not matter what colour you are
or who you are,
He wants to grow his party.

[Kate!]

I loved the speech, very eloquent amd inspiring.

[arista]

Richard Tice MP

was just Live on SkyNewsHD

[joeysteele]

One of the biggest bigots ever in politics now says he doesn't want bigots in this Party.
Ugh.
I could never relate to that narcissist nor want to.

[arista]

One of the biggest bigots ever in politics now says he doesn't want bigots in this Party.
Ugh.
I could never relate to that narcissist nor want to.

They appear to growing

[joeysteele]

They appear to growing

I'm not sure about that but it would be expected after the general election result.
Plus good luck to them on that, they've as much right to exist and compete as any other Party.

However I could not support them, for their hostile attitude to the rest of Europe, on immigration and the NHS.
Plus too because of Farage, I've never liked him, and would not trust him.
I see him as dangerously divisive so not for me I'm afraid.

Sadly it looks like the Cons are going to be saddled with either a stopgap for 2 to 3 years or one that still tries to attract those voting Reform now.
So I don't think as the next election approaches in 5 years.
That the Cons will change enough.

I am furious in fact livid,with my government on the pensioners winter payment debacle, a cruel decision in my view.

Although most of all else they intend to do I support.
Let's see what's in the budget though and my fury could increase.

Starmer and Reeves in my view have let voters down.
I think they've acted disgracefully to most pensioners.

I guess we need to see where Reform go on policy and also what this government does achieve too.
I can't see many Labour or Lib Dem voters going to Reform.
So it's still that around 40% who voted Con and Reform in July as to where the bulk of those 40% of votes now end up going to which will more likely determine Reforms future success.
As I said though, good luck to them.

It's a real annoyance as to Labour to me, that we won't know the budget contents BEFORE the Conference.
I'm not happy at that again either.

[arista]

LBC Live
now debating Nigel Farage

A LBC Reporter at their conference

[arista]

The Reporter up there
said they are going after Ed Miliband
seat.

If they Win that in a Year or so
that will be amazing

[joeysteele]

The Reporter up there
said they are going after Ed Miliband
seat.

If they Win that in a Year or so
that will be amazing

Well they cannot win it in a year or so.

There's no election likely until 2029.
There's no way with this majority any risks of elections will be taken.

[arista]

Next year Local Elections


Joey


Doncaster is in that Vote



[The 2025 United Kingdom local elections will be held on 1 May 2025.]

[arista]

Farage in the Studio

Live on GMBHD itv

[arista]

1841370385821909374

[Crimson Dynamo]

James McMurdock MP
Jamesreform
·

Dear Constituents,

For context, the head of Essex council asked for £80M to improve ALL roads in Essex

Essex didn't get that money

£80m will be spent in the next 17 days on hotels

Does this represent responsible, representative, spending to you?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYzN3TFXEAAnfm8?format=png&name=900x900

[arista]

Tonight 6:25PM ITV1HD &
BBC1HD 6:55PM

Reform Party Political Broadcast

[arista]

Clever Start

Attack on the Labour Party
Great Drawings

Then Nigel talks.

How worse are the Labour Party

Watch again on BBC1HD 6:55PM

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reform UK reposted

Anyone who truly believes that we are on the brink of “climate catastrophe”
would be in China protesting government policy.

That they instead demand the unilateral impoverishment of the British citizenry
tells you all you need to know.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZhYzeiWIAwnkcq?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel bumped into sone students on way to PMQ's

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/J1rdkYA3308

[Parmy]

Nigel bumped into sone students on way to PMQ's

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/J1rdkYA3308


Very heart warming to see. Such polite and intelligent models of society.

[Livia]

Appalled by the CPS's lack of action on the Manchester Airport assault of a police officer four months ago, Reform is pressing ahead with a private prosecution. Well at least someone is doing something that isn't appeasement.

[UserSince2005]

Appalled by the CPS's lack of action on the Manchester Airport assault of a police officer four months ago, Reform is pressing ahead with a private prosecution. Well at least someone is doing something that isn't appeasement.

too busy chasing down the evil tweeters.

[arista]

Nigel Farage
now live on SkyNewsHD
and GBnewsHD.

Family
Community
Country


On the Wall behind him.

Central London.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel Farage says that half of the 121 Tory MPs should join Reform, and the
other half join the Lib Dems

[Zizu]

Nigel Farage says that half of the 121 Tory MPs should join Reform, and the
other half join the Lib Dems


Does anyone really care what Parker thinks ??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[arista]

May Local Election 2025
Reform UK is expected,
to gain new seats

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdePsA2XIAAW92C?format=jpg&name=small

[Parmy]

Does anyone really care what Parker thinks ??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Yes. If you want the country driven in the right direction, he is the perfect person for it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Matt Goodwin @GoodwinMJ

More than 1 million people from outside Europe migrated to Britain last year.
How many of those do you think came on work visas?


18%.

Your leaders are lying to you. Their extreme policy is making us poorer and
more divided.

[Zizu]

Yes. If you want the country driven in the right direction, he is the perfect person for it


Nigel

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241128/35d443cb70d4f249eacf2ad531e5b749.jpg


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Elon Musk @elonmusk

Yes
--------------------------------------
·
Nov 28
🚨BREAKING: Former Tory minister Andrea Jenkins has joined Reform UK

Reform will win the next election.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdeGFEEWMAMrKQ8?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1862363504587468902

[Livia]

Matt Goodwin @GoodwinMJ

More than 1 million people from outside Europe migrated to Britain last year.
How many of those do you think came on work visas?


18%.

Your leaders are lying to you. Their extreme policy is making us poorer and
more divided.

Oh but, oh but... the NHS!

SO tired of hearing how good migration is for the country, how much we need it, how the NHS would collapse without it. Time we started making jobs attractive for your British people.

[user104658]

Matt Goodwin @GoodwinMJ

More than 1 million people from outside Europe migrated to Britain last year.
How many of those do you think came on work visas?


18%.

Your leaders are lying to you. Their extreme policy is making us poorer and
more divided.

How many came on Student visas?

[user104658]

How many came on Student visas?

I'll just answer because the numbers don't fit your propaganda so you probably won't post them.

Here's the list from top to bottom for anyone with a genuine interest in non-outrage-bait Musk X fapping.

29% student visas
23% short term / visitor visas
18% work visas
15% family visas (family members of those on work or student visa)
15% humanitarian/refugee/asylum


Your 18% figure is correct but as can be easily illustrated for anyone interested in facts rather than getting a chubby over their Daily Mail and Cheerios - it's utterly meaningless without the full context, which was easy to find, and could easily have been provided. Absolute brain rot.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdtU5W2XYAAqWZh?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Paul Mason
on the panel Trevor Phillips Early today,
said it would be illegal
for Musk to give funding.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel has now surpassed 1,000,000 followers on Tiktok

[Zizu]

Nigel has now surpassed 1,000,000 followers on Tiktok


Many if not most will be ‘bots’ of course … apparently anyone with hundreds of thousands normally have more than a decent % of bots


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[Oliver_W]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdtU5W2XYAAqWZh?format=jpg&name=small

As I said before, I believe the true winner was Voter Apathy - the Dems seemed determined to aim a machine gun at their own foot, and their voters were either put off by the way Biden was treated, didn't like Harris, or some reason known only State-side lol.

Something disengaged five million voters who gave Biden his victory - they didn't go to Trump, they didn't vote. If we assume they were all authentic votes (which I do, unless there's a good reason to think otherwise), something stopped them from voting. and I don't think it was Twitter.

[arista]

The CEO of
Reform claimed Musk can pay the Money
Via a Company.


He spoke yesterday on Politics Live BBC2HD

[Parmy]

Paul Mason
on the panel Trevor Phillips Early today,
said it would be illegal
for Musk to give funding.

What if he dressed him in shades and invited him round for a bumming session? Would it be ok then?

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeDaxLDWgAAgo0b?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeMhOvzXYAAXpn2?format=jpg&name=360x360


Good on Nigel Farage MP
at the Clacton Sea Cadets Christmas Market.


https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1865371213893091404

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeMhOvzXYAAXpn2?format=jpg&name=360x360


Good on Nigel Farage MP
at the Clacton Sea Cadets Christmas Market.


https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1865371213893091404

Doing his duty for his constituents

:clap1:

[Cherie]

I think Labour and the Tories should be very worried ....people are sick of being lied to and inaction, Starmers 6 point plan is surely a rehash of Sunaks 5 point plan just minus the boats?

[Glenn.]

I'll just answer because the numbers don't fit your propaganda so you probably won't post them.

Here's the list from top to bottom for anyone with a genuine interest in non-outrage-bait Musk X fapping.

29% student visas
23% short term / visitor visas
18% work visas
15% family visas (family members of those on work or student visa)
15% humanitarian/refugee/asylum


Your 18% figure is correct but as can be easily illustrated for anyone interested in facts rather than getting a chubby over their Daily Mail and Cheerios - it's utterly meaningless without the full context, which was easy to find, and could easily have been provided. Absolute brain rot.

I wonder why they don’t post these stats :think:

[Crimson Dynamo]

🚨 Lee Anderson on Khan’s knighthood

“Really”

“Khan has given away our capital city & should be ashamed of himself…”

• Overall crime up 21%
• Violent crime up 35%
• Homicides up 5%
• Knife crime up 54%
• Sexual offences up 51%

[Crimson Dynamo]

🚨BREAKING: Billionaire Tory donor Nick Candy has defected to Reform UK:

"I will raise more money for Reform than any political party in the UK has ever
raised - Nigel Farage is going to be PM."

more bad news for Labour and the Tories

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gea90tWXQAAL28F?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

🚨BREAKING: Billionaire Tory donor Nick Candy has defected to Reform UK:

"I will raise more money for Reform than any political party in the UK has ever
raised - Nigel Farage is going to be PM."

more bad news for Labour and the Tories

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gea90tWXQAAL28F?format=jpg&name=small

Elon Musk @elonmusk
·
4h
Interesting

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeZUplQXkAAgptG?format=png&name=small

Yes Nick was in USA
a few weeks back.

[arista]

Tim Montgomerie

political activist, blogger, and columnist.

Has Jumped Ship
he is now representing Reform UK


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Montgomerie

[user104658]

Weird, I thought Reform was all about representing the average working fella? Billionare donors doesn't really pair up with that, does it.

[arista]

Weird, I thought Reform was all about representing the average working fella? Billionare donors doesn't really pair up with that, does it.


It is
Many more are joining Reform UK
from Labour and Conservative

[The Slim Reaper]

�� Lee Anderson on Khan’s knighthood

“Really”

“Khan has given away our capital city & should be ashamed of himself…”

• Overall crime up 21%
• Violent crime up 35%
• Homicides up 5%
• Knife crime up 54%
• Sexual offences up 51%

https://secretldn.com/london-ranked-best-city-in-the-world/#:~:text=Yup%2C%20it%20truly%20is%20as,tippity%2Dt op%20of%20the%20tree.

London Has Been Ranked The Best City In The World For The Tenth Year In A Row

I need to see the source for those increases, because neither you or Mr Anderson are particularly diligent about posting the truth.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://secretldn.com/london-ranked-best-city-in-the-world/#:~:text=Yup%2C%20it%20truly%20is%20as,tippity%2Dt op%20of%20the%20tree.

London Has Been Ranked The Best City In The World For The Tenth Year In A Row

I need to see the source for those increases, because neither you or Mr Anderson are particularly diligent about posting the truth.

So say a group of capitalist consultants no one has heard of who crated this puff piece for marketing reasons

this is who they are

Our diverse, multidisciplinary team of designers, planners, strategists,
storytellers, creatives and account leaders have completed more than 100
visioning, strategy, marketing and branding projects for destinations, cities,
districts and developments around the world.

:joker:


embarrassing

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reform winning in Merseyside


Election Maps UK @ElectionMapsUK

Blackbrook (St Helens) Council By-Election Result:

➡️ RFM: 41.1% (New)
🌹 LAB: 34.7% (-18.4)
🌍 GRN: 12.6% (-16.4)
🌳 CON: 7.7% (-10.2)
🙋 IND : 3.9% (New)

Reform GAIN from Labour.
Changes w/ 2022.

[arista]

Yes, these gains are increasing.


More to come.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reform Leader Nigel Farage and Party treasurer Nick Candy met with Elon
Musk at Mar-A-Lago on Monday 16th December.

Nigel Farage and Nick Candy said:

“We had a great meeting with Elon Musk for an hour yesterday. We learned a
great deal about the Trump ground game and will have ongoing discussions
on other areas.

"We only have one more chance left to save the West and we can do great
things together.

"Our thanks also to President Trump for allowing us to use Mar-A-Lago for
this historic meeting. The special relationship is alive and well.”


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfAW6dfWgAA645p?format=jpg&name=small

[Parmy]

https://secretldn.com/london-ranked-best-city-in-the-world/#:~:text=Yup%2C%20it%20truly%20is%20as,tippity%2Dt op%20of%20the%20tree.

London Has Been Ranked The Best City In The World For The Tenth Year In A Row

I need to see the source for those increases, because neither you or Mr Anderson are particularly diligent about posting the truth.



It's probably safe to say that none of them have come down since his tenure began.:smug:

[arista]

MP Nigel
spoke on BBC1HD


He said,
we had a nice meeting
and the money will go through
Twitter

But he would not say how much?

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-eca49d38-f693-44d3-9827-4da52ea356a6.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8883307e-0a43-4cf4-90b7-89da4dec1c2e.jpeg

[user104658]

Let him bankroll it, I don't think being in Musk's pocket will do much good for Farage's Bread n Butter Pudding Pie and a Pint image in all honestly. It's not really what people are looking for. Tory-coded.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the MSM panic

:laugh:

[Livia]

the MSM panic

:laugh:

LoL... I know...

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-6352e58b-d2c4-4712-a0ef-be381ac17310.png

[arista]

Also posted on PM Starmer thread.


Sky News Text:
[The i's front page claims Sir Keir Starmer's
Labour Party is facing a growing threat
as voters shift to Reform UK.]


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-742dfdb9-2e44-4b52-b475-3a997f5cdf67.jpeg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/c0d5/live/6fea8150-c3d3-11ef-a0f2-fd81ae5962f4.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-09661055-c02d-41c4-88b7-79e011d37108.png

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kemi making a total fool of herself

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gf0ZIBWXUAQXpLY?format=jpg&name=small

[Nicky91]

remember when they praised Kemi as if she is a goddess or something


flip flopping and i speak out of experience :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

remember when they praised Kemi as if she is a goddess or something


flip flopping and i speak out of experience :hehe:

you don't remember that


and thankfully your mum just pulled the plug on your wifi

[arista]

Yes LT


Kemi should have kept her mouth shut.

[Oliver_W]

I'm not sure what Kemi was hoping to achieve with this - Reform have said they're happy for a full audit into their membership, and I doubt with of the major parties would want that :joker:

What was she even referring to? Perhaps someone more computer-literate (TS?) can put what I mean in more precise terms, but all I can think of is Kemi did a Ctrl+I to look at the page's source code, or did the "inspect element" thing, and saw the ticking numbers, and assumed it was simply a number generator programmed to count up in intervals, and didn't see or didn't understand whatever the coding was that fed the official figures?

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-12c6e2ea-f45b-436a-8cec-4f8e49bd9417.png

[joeysteele]

I really wish the Conservatives had been given the choice to elect a leader who could really start to rebuild them.
It's hard in opposition to rebuild and it needs a stronger nerve to do so, even making mistakes on the way.

The government has still 4 and a half years to go.
They have the opportunity of doing many things to turn things around for them.
By simply being in government.
It's much harder to sustain recovery or success in opposition.

Kemi Badenoch is rather poor unfortunately at PMQs her delivery and chosen topics as questions left ineffectual.

However to play into narcissist Farage's hands on poll ratings is extremely unwise on her part.
All he does is look for any divisive elements to seize on and try to divide further or even seek destruction.

I really hope, the Conservative Party looks deeply inward and does something to thwart the narcissistic egomaniac Farage's divisive aims.

However the Labour government too along with the LibDems and Greens.
Really need to eradicate more divisions and concerns of the Country.
Labour and the LibDems despite the government's massive majority, are in fact working alongside each other on some issues.
They just need to get some success from the policies to help convince that long term things will be at least significantly better.

I hope Conservative members will push to get some real strength again and direction to see off Reform.
Labour had this issue with the Alliance set up in the 80s with the split opposition voting, and saw it off.
The Conservatives need to do the same.

[bots]

What political parties need to do is represent the people rather than corporate interests. Surely people can see that other than the name changing from tory to labour and a few more regional accents, there is no change. There won't be any change. Yes, they can spin things to make it look a bit different, but fundamentally, it just isn't any different. Do labour care more? Nope. Will labour put more money into the pockets of working people? Nope. Will labour improve public services? Nope

This is why people like farage end up being successful

[joeysteele]

What political parties need to do is represent the people rather than corporate interests. Surely people can see that other than the name changing from tory to labour and a few more regional accents, there is no change. There won't be any change. Yes, they can spin things to make it look a bit different, but fundamentally, it just isn't any different. Do labour care more? Nope. Will labour put more money into the pockets of working people? Nope. Will labour improve public services? Nope

This is why people like farage end up being successful

I don't hold with your pessimism of what this Labour government may not be successful in.
I really am disappointed with and disillusioned by the start they've done on a few things.
However not all.

I do however see your points as to any real change plus also the spin element too.

I still hold hope in those who don't vote and it's still why I support PR for elections.
We had Farage and his divisive lot crowing Reform was ahead of the Cons and rising during the election.
Yet it was utter nonsense, his lot were 10% behind the Conservatives on voting day.
Plus 40% didn't even vote so they felt no enthusiasm for Farage and Reform.
Plus so many I talked to when campaigning, who don't vote.
The issues they were concerned about were the NHS, and cost of living.
Nothing if the harder uncompromising more right wing divisive stuff.

Anyhow, a long, long way to go to the next election.
It does not need to be until August 2029.
It won't be any earlier unless it looks like the government would win.

No one has any real idea of where the economic situation will really be by then, or what success or failure the government has had happen.
I still believe PR, will be a way forward and start to realise change
Plus I still believe that it would never hopefully or likely be the case, anywhere up to 50% of voters would support the destructive, divisive rhetoric of Farage and his lot.
No matter what unfurls meantime under this current unrepresentative electoral system over the next 4 and a half years.

[ThomasC]

I don't hold with your pessimism of what this Labour government may not be successful in.
I really am disappointed with and disillusioned by the start they've done on a few things.
However not all.

I do however see your points as to any real change plus also the spin element too.

I still hold hope in those who don't vote and it's still why I support PR for elections.
We had Farage and his divisive lot crowing Reform was ahead of the Cons and rising during the election.
Yet it was utter nonsense, his lot were 10% behind the Conservatives on voting day.
Plus 40% didn't even vote so they felt no enthusiasm for Farage and Reform.
Plus so many I talked to when campaigning, who don't vote.
The issues they were concerned about were the NHS, and cost of living.
Nothing if the harder uncompromising more right wing divisive stuff.

Anyhow, a long, long way to go to the next election.
It does not need to be until August 2029.
It won't be any earlier unless it looks like the government would win.

No one has any real idea of where the economic situation will really be by then, or what success or failure the government has had happen.
I still believe PR, will be a way forward and start to realise change
Plus I still believe that it would never hopefully or likely be the case, anywhere up to 50% of voters would support the destructive, divisive rhetoric of Farage and his lot.
No matter what unfurls meantime under this current unrepresentative electoral system over the next 4 and a half years.

Reform are building power day by day.

Would not surprise me one bit if Nigel becomes PM in a few years time.

I think you're a bit naive

[arista]

[I don't hold with your pessimism of what this
Labour government may not be successful in.
I really am disappointed with and disillusioned
by the start they've done on a few things.
However not all.

I do however see your points as to any
real change plus also the spin element too.]


Yes Joey Labour has a Chance
but May 2025 Local Elections
could Reform UK increase.?

[joeysteele]

[I don't hold with your pessimism of what this
Labour government may not be successful in.
I really am disappointed with and disillusioned
by the start they've done on a few things.
However not all.

I do however see your points as to any
real change plus also the spin element too.]


Yes Joey Labour has a Chance
but May 2025 Local Elections
could Reform UK increase.?

Yes arista.
I do expect a run for Reform in the council elections..
Much as was the case in the last European elections held in the UK.
I think Labour will lose a significant number of seats.

Very low turnout in council elections may help Reform too
I'll hope however it's short lived as to any success.

[joeysteele]

Reform are building power day by day.

Would not surprise me one bit if Nigel becomes PM in a few years time.

I think you're a bit naive

I will hope and pray every day that NEVER happens as to Farage.

[arista]

Yes arista.
I do expect a run for Reform in the council elections..
Much as was the case in the last European elections held in the UK.
I think Labour will lose a significant number of seats.

Very low turnout in council elections may help Reform too
I'll hope however it's short lived as to any success.



Yes,
many are saying the same.


I think it is also possible they add a 6th MP
around that time.
Or just before it.

[arista]

Reform are building power day by day.

Would not surprise me one bit if Nigel becomes PM in a few years time.

I think you're a bit naive

I doubt he could become PM

By that time the Conservatives
may have changed their leader.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Douglas Chirnside
4 hrs ago
Nigel Farage stood down hundred of Brexit candidates in Tory seats in 2019 and
delivered Boris the biggest Tory win since Margaret Thatcher. The Tories were
astonishingly ungrateful and betrayed their Brexit promises and their own
manifesto. They kept Britain in the EU’s clutches and instigated mass
immigration on a scale never seen in British history. They introduced the
highest tax burden in modern times and pursued Net Zero and woke policies
while careering from one failed leader to the next. Voters don’t like them and
don’t trust them and Farage will never do a deal with them. Instead he will
replace them.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c6c5e8fb-4126-41d6-8731-05ab0d3cf776.png

[Crimson Dynamo]

Looks like the 2 failing legacy parties are terrified of Reform

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gf9OCCBWoAAQW96?format=jpg&name=small

[Oliver_W]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c6c5e8fb-4126-41d6-8731-05ab0d3cf776.png

Not being funny but why not favour an alternative party, with that state of the current Big Two?

Also why is she so entitled as to have "fury" that someone else is being favoured?

[Crimson Dynamo]

2KyAUSqqmZY

[user104658]

Not being funny but why not favour an alternative party, with that state of the current Big Two?

Also why is she so entitled as to have "fury" that someone else is being favoured?

I mean if it was the media in general (as it usually is) then there'd be a point but kicking off that a news channel built to pander to flagwanking braindead brexit morons is favouring a political party built on a membership of flagwanking braindead brexit morons is a bit odd.

It's a fair comment to point out that GB News is a propaganda channel but it's not exactly brand new information? It's never been anything else.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reform ‘gains 20,000 members’ since Badenoch ‘fakery’ row


Party insiders claim clash with Tory leader has contributed to spike in sign-ups

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2024/12/29/TELEMMGLPICT000406324256_17355033893720_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4Bq-g6Jn8_kBtCkMh3TW-mra2QnZJIETfWB_fUbKb77n0w.jpeg?imwidth=600

Reform’s online membership tracker on Sunday showed that the party had
more than 152,000 signed-up grassroots supporters.

It comes after a major poll released on Sunday showed that Reform is on
course for a major parliamentary breakthrough at the next election, winning 71
MPs.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/29/reform-gains-20000-members-badenoch-fakery-row/

[arista]

Yes Reform now having a Conference


Lee Anderson MP is next to appear from there
on GBnewsHD

[arista]

Lee Anderson MP

now speaking Live
in Leicester talking Reporter Christopher Hope

[Nicky91]

Reform ‘gains 20,000 members’ since Badenoch ‘fakery’ row


Party insiders claim clash with Tory leader has contributed to spike in sign-ups

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2024/12/29/TELEMMGLPICT000406324256_17355033893720_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4Bq-g6Jn8_kBtCkMh3TW-mra2QnZJIETfWB_fUbKb77n0w.jpeg?imwidth=600

Reform’s online membership tracker on Sunday showed that the party had
more than 152,000 signed-up grassroots supporters.

It comes after a major poll released on Sunday showed that Reform is on
course for a major parliamentary breakthrough at the next election, winning 71
MPs.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/29/reform-gains-20000-members-badenoch-fakery-row/

:clap1: :clap1:


elections to come soon again maybe


Reform are the UK's best hope against the no.1 enemy: The Migrants

[Oliver_W]

:clap1: :clap1:


elections to come soon again maybe


Reform are the UK's best hope against the no.1 enemy: The Migrants

It would take more than some unfavourable polls and membership surges to make Labour call another election.

In fact, these polls make it more unlikely they'd call one. Why would they?

[arista]

[Former Conservative MP Marco Longhi
defects to Nigel Farage’s Reform UK party

Ex-MP attacks Tories saying the party of
Churchill and Thatcher ‘has transformed
into something unrecognisable’ in another
blow to new Conservative leader
Kemi Badenoch weeks after former minister
Dame Andrea Jenkyns crossed the floor]


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-mp-marco-longhi-defect-nigel-farage-reform-b2673432.html

[arista]

Nigel Farage MP In Leicester

Live now only GBnewsHD

Telling them how stupid
the conservative leader is a Fool

[arista]

Now he is talking about UK Homeless

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[A poll has suggested that Sir Keir Starmer
will lose significiant support to Reform UK in the
next general election over
immigration concerns,
the i says.]



https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-db908e57-22d6-4d7f-a0a4-144b50432cb0.png

[Cherie]

Sky News Text:
[A poll has suggested that Sir Keir Starmer
will lose significiant support to Reform UK in the
next general election over
immigration concerns,
the i says.]



https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-db908e57-22d6-4d7f-a0a4-144b50432cb0.png

who knew a bunch of illegal men arriving would have this affect......mind boggling....are Labour on a different planet..?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reform just six points off becoming biggest party, says election predictor



Electoral Calculus analysis shows Nigel Farage’s party could leapfrog both
Conservatives and Labour if it continues to pick up support

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2025/01/03/TELEMMGLPICT000406945603_17359365699640_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4BqgsaO8O78rhmZrDxTlQBjdLdu0TL-Cg_AMOUqySXmFgU.jpeg?imwidth=500

If the party reached 28 per cent of the popular vote at an election, it would
likely become the largest force in the House of Commons, though short of an
overall majority.

On current polling trends, Reform would reach this threshold within six
months if it continues to pick up support at the current rate.

With 31 per cent of the vote, Reform would win a majority, making Mr Farage prime minister.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/04/reform-six-points-off-biggest-party-election-prediction/

[arista]

Farage Live in Kemi's Chelmsford


Only on GBnewsHD



All other News is Stuck on Carter's Funeral.

[user104658]

Reform just six points off becoming biggest party, says election predictor



Electoral Calculus analysis shows Nigel Farage’s party could leapfrog both
Conservatives and Labour if it continues to pick up support

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2025/01/03/TELEMMGLPICT000406945603_17359365699640_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4BqgsaO8O78rhmZrDxTlQBjdLdu0TL-Cg_AMOUqySXmFgU.jpeg?imwidth=500

If the party reached 28 per cent of the popular vote at an election, it would
likely become the largest force in the House of Commons, though short of an
overall majority.

On current polling trends, Reform would reach this threshold within six
months if it continues to pick up support at the current rate.

With 31 per cent of the vote, Reform would win a majority, making Mr Farage prime minister.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/04/reform-six-points-off-biggest-party-election-prediction/

Watch them still fail to get into double-digit seats at the next election though.

[arista]

Watch them still fail to get into double-digit seats at the next election though.


Look this May 2025 Local Elections
they may take the Kemi's Area.


More MPs
will happen


You are not in the Loop
SB

[arista]

Elon Musk
now wants Nigel Farage Changed as leader.

This is Due to what Farage has stated on
on BBC1HD Laura

[Cherie]

Elon Musk
now wants Nigel Farage Changed as leader.

This is Due to what Farage has stated on
on BBC1HD Laura

What did he say?


He shared a post on X earlier today simply stating: ‘The Reform Party needs a new leader. Farage doesn’t have what it takes.’

Shortly afterwards he shared a tweet by Richard Tice, another Reform UK MP, who described the ‘rape gang scandal’ as a ‘massive horrific stain on British establishment, political class and mainstream media over at least two decades’.

[Oliver_W]

Maybe he feels Farage isn't being forceful enough?

[Crimson Dynamo]

As i recall he was Ten Hag out too

:think:

[MTVN]

Wow how stupid must Farage feel now after all that costing up to Musk. Who will all Farage's acolytes side with now?

Thing is Reform would be nothing without Nigel, just look at how little success other right wing parties have had when he's not been involved

[Crimson Dynamo]

Konstantin Kisin @KonstantinKisin

He is the only politician in Britain with the name recognition, common touch
and charisma who can lead Reform to any kind of genuine result at the next
election.

Obviously, at some point he will have to hand over to the next generation but
that won't be for a while and there is no one who can fill his shoes now anyway.

[Crimson Dynamo]

But Ben Habib makes a very good point..re: Tommy


https://x.com/benhabib6/status/1875837469263790143

[bots]

Musk just wants chaos, that's how he makes his money

[arista]

What did he say?


On BBC1HD, Cherie
Nigel would not agree with Musk
on Tommy Robinson.



Which is wise

[arista]

Maybe he feels Farage isn't being forceful enough?



No
Farage has never liked
Tommy Robinson

[Oliver_W]

No
Farage has never liked
Tommy Robinson

What does Robinson have to do with Farage and Musk?

[arista]

What does Robinson have to do with Farage and Musk?


Musk likes Tommy.


Robinson is Never been part of Reform UK

[arista]

Musk's dad
in South Africa is Live on GBnewsHD



He is also backs Tommy Robinson

[arista]

Wow how stupid must Farage feel now after all that costing up to Musk. Who will all Farage's acolytes side with now?

Thing is Reform would be nothing without Nigel, just look at how little success other right wing parties have had when he's not been involved


What are you on about
Nigel Farage is the Leader



Musk does not run any political party in the UK

[arista]

Musk just wants chaos, that's how he makes his money


Yes Wise Comment

[user104658]

Elon Musk
now wants Nigel Farage Changed as leader.

This is Due to what Farage has stated on
on BBC1HD Laura

Utterly unhinged behaviour from Musk, hilarious stuff :joker:. He posts constantly too, dozens and dozens of obsessive posts on a laser focused topic for days and then he'll just flip to something else. I honestly don't think the man is well.

[user104658]

Musk's dad
in South Africa is Live on GBnewsHD



He is also backs Tommy Robisnson

Which is ironic given the situation with Musk's dad and his own stepdaughter. Fkn gross. Let's see Tibbs gaggle of Musk/Trump Bros defend that one. I bet they'll give it a good shot, too :skull:

[arista]

Utterly unhinged behaviour from Musk, hilarious stuff :joker:. He posts constantly too, dozens and dozens of obsessive posts on a laser focused topic for days and then he'll just flip to something else. I honestly don't think the man is well.


He does not understand UK Politics
bound to get in a muddle

[arista]

Which is ironic given the situation with Musk's dad and his own stepdaughter. Fkn gross. Let's see Tibbs gaggle of Musk/Trump Bros defend that one. I bet they'll give it a good shot, too :skull:


From what he said Live
he backs his son.

[bots]

Utterly unhinged behaviour from Musk, hilarious stuff :joker:. He posts constantly too, dozens and dozens of obsessive posts on a laser focused topic for days and then he'll just flip to something else. I honestly don't think the man is well.

i think it's narcotics

[user104658]

i think it's narcotics

I think he's the inevitable outcome of a neurodivergent Redpill nerd gaining so much money and power that everything about the world starts to look small and insignificant. I don't doubt that he's also eyeballs deep in various powders, but also, I don't think he needs them to be what he is.

Hes a real life example of someone who has played a video game for so long that he's reached the level cap and has so much cash and so many resources that the game as-intended has stopped being fun, so he's just messing around trying to find ways to "break the game" for his own entertainment.

Neoliberal economics final boss. It's worrying in a way that I just don't think most people even understand.

[Crimson Dynamo]

seems he is triggering all the right people as per

Labour are raging

meanwhile they have been hopelessly exposed by one man thousands of miles away

their implosion is a joy to watch

:joker:

[Oliver_W]

Suggesting his neurodivergence is anything of an explanation for his behaviour probably won't go down well in some sectors :laugh:

[MTVN]

What are you on about
Nigel Farage is the Leader



Musk does not run any political party in the UK

Most of Reform idolises Musk including Farage until this happened. Can see some of them trying a coup to replace Farage with someone Musk approves of

[bots]

Most of Reform idolises Musk including Farage until this happened. Can see some of them trying a coup to replace Farage with someone Musk approves of

i don't think they can do that given that it's a limited company that Farage owns :laugh:

[user104658]

Most of Reform idolises Musk including Farage until this happened. Can see some of them trying a coup to replace Farage with someone Musk approves of

Yes because they (and musk) are apparently aware that Reform is a cult of personality that hinges on Farage and will simply collapse inwards if he was to be replaced. Lol.

He won't be replaced but Musk has damaged them more deeply than any UK political entity ever could have :skull:. I'd call it ineptitude on his part but, as I said before, I don't think he cares.

[ThomasC]

I wish Musk would just piss off.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ggjbj5xWEAADFSa?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ggj8Se4WcAAlbfe?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

Most of Reform idolises Musk including Farage until this happened. Can see some of them trying a coup to replace Farage with someone Musk approves of

Changes Nothing

Nigel Farage is the Leader.


Even folks in the UK Know
Musk does not control
anything political in the UK

[arista]

Musk Loves Tommy

[On 2 January 2025, the owner of X,
Musk, pinned the message
"Free Tommy Robinson" to the top
of his own X-feed]


He is in UK Jail.

And has Nothing to do with Reform UK.


MTVN do you not understand that?

[arista]

I wish Musk would just piss off.


He is not a Problem.


He is part of Trumps Team.


We are in the UK.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Rupert Lowe MP writes today:

More awareness has been raised around the rape and abuse of thousands of
vulnerable British girls in the last few days than has ever happened before.
As a country, this is a conversation we needed to have. It shames our
political class that it has taken a man of Elon Musk’s influence to drag this
into the light.

This is where the focus should remain, not elsewhere - swift and brutal
justice for those responsible.

Tommy Robinson’s role in exposing these gangs should be acknowledged. He
is not right for Reform, but I do think that his efforts in revealing these
heinous crimes should not be overlooked.

I thank Elon for his kind comments. I just want to do what is right for my
constituency and my country - that is my only interest.

Nigel is leader of Reform. He made Brexit happen, and for that I will always
be grateful. I look forward to working with Nigel and the entire team to
continue to hold this incompetent Labour Party to account, democratise our
own party, win the next election and form a Reform Government.

A power from outside the existing political establishment is the ONLY way to
achieve the change this country so desperately needs.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1166282744214802433/ZUOY_ONr_400x400.jpg

[Parmy]

I mean if it was the media in general (as it usually is) then there'd be a point but kicking off that a news channel built to pander to flagwanking braindead brexit morons is favouring a political party built on a membership of flagwanking braindead brexit morons is a bit odd.

It's a fair comment to point out that GB News is a propaganda channel but it's not exactly brand new information? It's never been anything else.




Flagwanking....what's happened to flaghumpers?


Am I correct in saying your job, or your wifes job entails entering peoples houses?

Because this flagshagging nonsense you keep repeating to undermine people who are still proud to be british is shallow, ridiculous and terribly one sided..why?

Well if you have ever been in a Syrian, afgahnis, Iranian, etc etc, house. You will know that they are 100 times more likely to be adorning their walls with flags and tapestries of their nations colours than any brit is likely to do.

That is from my 10 years experience of entering houses of brits, and non british households over the years..

I never hear you refer to those people as flaghumpers etc.


Strange that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Flagwanking....what's happened to flaghumpers?


Am I correct in saying your job, or your wifes job entails entering peoples houses?

Because this flagshagging nonsense you keep repeating to undermine people who are still proud to be british is shallow, ridiculous and terribly one sided..why?

Well if you have ever been in a Syrian, afgahnis, Iranian, etc etc, house. You will know that they are 100 times more likely to be adorning their walls with flags and tapestries of their nations colours than any brit is likely to do.

That is from my 10 years experience of entering houses of brits, and non british households over the years..

I never hear you refer to those people as flaghumpers etc.


Strange that.

Im afraid he will have to reply next week Parmy as he is on gardening leave..

[Livia]

Flagwanking....what's happened to flaghumpers? etc. etc...



Im afraid he will have to reply next week Parmy as he is on gardening leave..

I'm thinking of starting a campaign for you two to take up your old names again. I've given these new ones a good hard try but..... No.

[Parmy]

I'm thinking of starting a campaign for you two to take up your old names again. I've given these new ones a good hard try but..... No.

Yeah, I much prefer my old one.but James dont like me so I doubt I will get it back.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah, I much prefer my old one.but James dont like me so I doubt I will get it back.

Zuckerberg has had a volte-face (and a perm) so maybe Jolly James will too?

[Gusto Brunt]

Trump, Musk and Farage are like kids in a school yard.

Musk 'I'm not your friend anymore coz you don't like my friend Tommy.'

Farage, 'Like I am bovvered'.

Trump 'I'm thinking of who not to be friends with now...'

[Crimson Dynamo]

im getting on one knee for an American woman beating drug dealer

what does that make me? (apart from a twat)

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/09/16/29411558-0-image-a-19_1591717814838.jpg

[Parmy]

im getting on one knee for an American woman beating drug dealer

what does that make me? (apart from a twat)

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/09/16/29411558-0-image-a-19_1591717814838.jpg

A staged knee, a knee where clothes have been adjusted for a photo.a bit like double taking the ice bucket challenge cause the first lot missed.

[Parmy]

Zuckerberg has had a volte-face (and a perm) so maybe Jolly James will too?

I was hoping a volte face was a new face lift when I googled it.

But yeah, hopefully. Your new names shite.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel Farage MP

Nigel_Farage

The journalists at Daily Mirror are so desperate for stories.

They are now begging my constituents for negative comments on Facebook.

Is it any wonder nobody trusts the mainstream media anymore?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gg4iskEXgAAhrNn?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

New Poll
Puts Reform UK
1 behind the Labour Party

[Parmy]

New Poll
Puts Reform UK
1 behind the Labour Party

Just read that...

Fantastic news.

[arista]

You Gov Poll:

Labour : 26%
Reform UK: 25%
Conservative :22%
LibDems : 14%
Green: 8%

[user104658]

As we know from all previous polls, and the elections themselves, percentages mean precisely nowt in this country because of how the voting system works. 25% means nothing if they're clustered in a small number of constituencies.

We're also a lifetime away from another GE and the world will - inevitably - look different by then. For better or worse, who knows, but certainly a snapshot of now means nothing about then.