Premier League 2024-25 Discussion Thread

[bots]

The fixtures for the upcoming season have been announced

Opening weekend fixtures

Friday, 16 August

Manchester United v Fulham (20:00)

Saturday, 17 August

Ipswich Town v Liverpool (12:30)

Arsenal v Wolverhampton (15:00)

Everton v Brighton (15:00)

Newcastle United v Southampton (15:00)

Nottingham Forest v Bournemouth (15:00)

West Ham United v Aston Villa (17:30)

Sunday, 18 August

Brentford v Crystal Palace (14:00)

Chelsea v Manchester City (16:30)

Monday, 19 August

Leicester City v Tottenham (20:00)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crggw2el341o

[bots]

Chelsea vs Man City is quite a big opener

[Nicky91]

Chelsea vs Man City is quite a big opener

is it?


the no.15 or whatever from last season vs the superpower Man City


:hehe:


not exactly a big match tbh

[Mystic Mock]

Chelsea vs Man City is quite a big opener

It'll be 1-0 to Man City I'm going to guess.

[bots]

Can a nice mod pin this and unpin last seasons MTVN

[Zizu]

Holy Krap

Ipswich opening two games !!

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[bots]

if i were Ipswich, i would prefer to get the tough games out of the way first

[MTVN]

Can a nice mod pin this and unpin last seasons MTVN

Done, probably need to change my Moyesiah user status now...

[Zizu]

if i were Ipswich, i would prefer to get the tough games out of the way first


Unless they lose both 7:0 !!


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[bots]

Done, probably need to change my Moyesiah user status now...

Lopetegui doesn't roll off the tongue so easily :laugh:

[Zizu]

Chelsea vs Man City is quite a big opener


Hopefully Chelsea crush City and so make the league more interesting


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[Mystic Mock]

Lopetegui doesn't roll off the tongue so easily :laugh:

All hail Luigi?

[Mystic Mock]

if i were Ipswich, i would prefer to get the tough games out of the way first

If they get battered in both games, it could knock their confidence for the rest of the Season.

[bots]

Sancho has apologised to Ten Hag and is back in training!

[Zizu]

Sancho has apologised to Ten Hag and is back in training!


Wow

Thats huge !!

Get him in playing instead of that crazy Brazilian and United will really be a threat going forward

Then get Martinez and Shaw back in defence and things are looking hopeful


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[bots]

Eddie Howe is the bookies favourite to be the first PL manager sacked next season. That came as a surprise to me

[Crimson Dynamo]

Eddie Howe is the bookies favourite to be the first PL manager sacked next season. That came as a surprise to me

I saw that today

I guess due to England?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Poor Villa getting smashed on the opening day :sad:

[bots]

I saw that today

I guess due to England?

the woman and her husband that got the newcastle deal done have "left" the club, so I think he has lost his biggest fans in the boardroom

[Crimson Dynamo]

the woman and her husband that got the newcastle deal done have "left" the club, so I think he has lost his biggest fans in the boardroom

Oh I did not know that! :shocked:

[Zizu]

the woman and her husband that got the newcastle deal done have "left" the club, so I think he has lost his biggest fans in the boardroom


Yes
All very strange


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[Nicky91]

cancel this rubbish

[bots]

-zyhLdqi6rM

[bots]

ME7SbCBBxjk

[Zizu]

ME7SbCBBxjk


Liverpool are the only club to not have bought ANYONE !


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[bots]

Cole Palmer has signed a new Chelsea contract to extend his stay at Stamford Bridge until 2033.

The 22-year-old attacking midfielder is now on a nine-year deal with improved terms after a sensational breakthrough season in west London.

[Zizu]

Cole Palmer has signed a new Chelsea contract to extend his stay at Stamford Bridge until 2033.

The 22-year-old attacking midfielder is now on a nine-year deal with improved terms after a sensational breakthrough season in west London.


They have improved his wages unsurprisingly given he WAS on just £17,000 a week apparently


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[Zizu]

OFFICIAL: Luke Shaw will miss the opening games of the Premier League season due to a calf injury sustained at the start of pre-season training.


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[Zizu]

Aston Villa supposedly closing in on Lo Celso from Spurs !!


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[bots]

Man U team for the first game

Man Utd XI: Onana; Dalot, Maguire, Martinez, Mazraoui; Casemiro, Mainoo; Diallo, Fernandes, Mount; Rashford.

Subs: Bayindir, De Ligt, Zirkzee, Eriksen, Garnacho, Antony, Evans, McTominay, Collyer.

[Alf]

Give me your two best teams for a victory this weekend? From any division in England or Scotland.

I need some inspiration for my football bet.

[Zizu]

Liverpool and Arsenal big home wins


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[Zizu]

Man U team for the first game

Man Utd XI: Onana; Dalot, Maguire, Martinez, Mazraoui; Casemiro, Mainoo; Diallo, Fernandes, Mount; Rashford.

Subs: Bayindir, De Ligt, Zirkzee, Eriksen, Garnacho, Antony, Evans, McTominay, Collyer.


I am watching with a 30 minute delay

Smith -Rowe looking good .. some sublime touches . I wish Arsenal had kept him tbh


Rashford has been absolute pants in the first 20 minutes


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[MTVN]

Boring!

Bring back the Olympics

[Zizu]

Boring!

Bring back the Olympics


ManU are still a few players short ..
Fernandes has missed two sitters


Ditch Rashford completely
Ditch Casemiro completely

Diallo is nothing special


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[bots]

Fernandez and Mount competing for the same space doesn't work and the wingers have been poor

[Zizu]

Boring!

Bring back the Olympics


As regards the Olympics … I don’t recall hearing about any failed drugs tests !?

How bizarre


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[Zizu]

Fernandez and Mount competing for the same space doesn't work and the wingers have been poor


They should offload Rashford and Antony and get Ivan Toney .

Keep Sancho

Offload Casemiro and get a good replacement


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[bots]

They should offload Rashford and Antony and get Ivan Toney .

Keep Sancho

Offload Casemiro and get a good replacement


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cant get rid of any of them because they earn too much

Rashford 375k
Antony 200k
Casemiro 350k

No-one wants Sancho because he is on 300k or he would be long gone

[Zizu]

cant get rid of any of them because they earn too much

Rashford 375k
Antony 200k
Casemiro 350k

No-one wants Sancho because he is on 300k or he would be long gone


There was a Brazilian soccer agent on TalkSport yesterday saying that a Brazilian player has been offered 13 ( thirteen ) times his current wages to join a Saudi team ..

I was sure he was talking about Casemiro but maybe not if he’s on those wages !?!

He did mention that the guy was on good wages though


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[bots]

3 subs coming on for united, this will make a big difference

Mazraoui has been great

[GiRTh]

Is it no going well. :laugh:

But Man Utd got the right man in Ten Hag. He wins trophies and thats all that matters, right?

Kidding cuz I think Man Utd have had a decent transfer window. Got themselves a few players for the future.

[bots]

Is it no going well. :laugh:

But Man Utd got the right man in Ten Hag. He wins trophies and thats all that matters, right?

Kidding cuz I think Man Utd have had a decent transfer window. Got themselves a few players for the future.

they arent firing on all cylinders thats for sure, a few cobwebs i think

[GiRTh]

I'm kidding a bit but I still dont see a recognisable style of play under Ten Hag

[bots]

New boy Zirkzee scores :dance:

[GiRTh]

Good goal. Keep Casemiro please

[AnnieK]

Zirkzee :dance:

[Zizu]

3 subs coming on for united, this will make a big difference

Mazraoui has been great


Yeah
Good debut indeed


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[Zizu]

New boy Zirkzee scores :dance:


He’s got a good touch for a 6’4” guy


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[bots]

Zirkzee has been great

[bots]

and its a win and top of the table :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Zizu]

Ipswich are simply thugs and should never down to 10 men already


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[Zizu]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVLjPGNXMAAyrvy?format=jpg&name=small


Fabulous


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Trent to Salah to Jota

0-1

[Crimson Dynamo]

Feck chips

Salah

0-2

[Zizu]

TAA’s passing sublime as usual today

His one v one defending also excellent


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[Zizu]

Ipswich have shown some nice touches but have some filthy players especially in midfield plus their forwards are guilty of falling to the floor far too easily


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[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

That could have easily been 7:0 to Liverpool on another day


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[Zizu]

Good to see the thuggish Fabian Schär getting a red card on day 1 - hopefully that’s also a 3 match ban


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[bots]

lol, that didn't take villa long

[Zizu]

lol, that didn't take villa long


It should have been a Villa penalty after 50 seconds ( foul on Mcginn)


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[Zizu]

lol, that didn't take villa long


Isn’t Antonio a RB / defender by trade ?

Useless defending by him for the goal


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[bots]

Toney is not in the squad for today's game

[bots]

Interesting that Enzo is the chelsea captain and they are taking the knee after he got no punishment for a racist post

[Crimson Dynamo]

The knee thing is a total embarrassment

[Crimson Dynamo]

1-0 city

you know who

[bots]

Chelsea are **** at the moment

[bots]

Chelsea currently have a 42 man squad :skull:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Chelsea's £280m midfield dominated by a player they sold to City for £30m:shocked:

[bots]

Someone made an interesting comment, you look at the chelsea squad and who would you pick as a captain. Out of all those players, no-one stands out as an obvious leader. Look at the Man City team and there are 4 or 5 obvious people who could be the captain

[Nicky91]

no need to trash Chelsea after losing their opening game to the worldclass Man City



more like Everton who are worse **** after getting washed away at home against Brighton (0-3)

[bots]

Spurs being spurs :laugh:

[GiRTh]

Spurs being spurs :laugh:They looked alright in the first half but, yeah. :laugh:

Vardy being Vardy when taken off. We've missed him :joker:

[GiRTh]

vO7YlFUmp0Y

I hate to say it but I've missed him

[Nicky91]

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yes, that Cole Palmer contract makes no sense at Chelsea


absolutely agree, Merson You Legend!

[bots]

Ilkay Gundogan is back at Man City on a free :laugh:

Neto has been given Sterling's shirt number, i think Sterling has his answer :laugh:

[bots]

i just can't see Maresca lasting any length of time at all

[bots]

Sterling is on 300k a week, who are the going to find to take him in the next week? :laugh:

[bots]

Villa vs Arsenal is a massive game so early in the season

[Crimson Dynamo]

Villa vs Arsenal is a massive game so early in the season

If you recall when Villa won at the Emirates that was roughly when the wheels fell off

[bots]

Sancho has thrown his toys out the pram again :laugh:

[bots]

Here we go

[bots]

TH is not even picking new signings, it's a disgrace

[bots]

very poor from united and TH's team selection and subs were baffling

[Nicky91]

Brighton

2 games, 2 wins


5 goals for, 1 goal against


very good first two games for them

[bots]

Haaland to the rescue

[bots]

boom boom boom

savinho has been a brilliant signing for city

[bots]

everton are playing a blinder :laugh:

[Nicky91]

boom boom boom

savinho has been a brilliant signing for city

was already for City though, in the City Football Group

first at Troyes, then at Girona

[GiRTh]

If you recall when Villa won at the Emirates that was roughly when the wheels fell off
Thanks for reminding us. I'd disagree. When a team loses one match in a calendar year thats hardly the wheel falling off. Anyway, it's looks like its been avenged today.

I think people are getting a bit carried away with Villa. Their league campaign will be affected by the Champions league. Arteta got to the 1/4s of the champions league and came 2nd on the last day of the season last year but people think Emery is a better manager. :conf: LEts see if Emery can go that far in the champions league and be nailed on top four and actually fighting for the title. I dont think he can.

[bots]

i think villa will struggle with their additional CL commitments, look what happened to newcastle. I cant see past a top 3 of city, arsenal and liverpool in any order

[GiRTh]

i think villa will struggle with their additional CL commitments, look what happened to newcastle. I cant see past a top 3 of city, arsenal and liverpool in any orderI think people are getting carried away with Liverpool too. New manager whos style is completely different to Klopp. Klopp is a put an arm round kind of manager and Slot most definitely isnt. Also TAA, VVD and Salah's contract are up next year and I see all three of them leaving to either Saudi or to a European giant. All three of them must know its gonna be one hell of a slog for them to reach those height again at Liverpool, Bayern maybe but I cant see Liverpool being as good as they have been recently.

[MTVN]

Fair play to Arsenal, that's a big bogeyman to slay after last year

Watkins completely off it

[MTVN]

Buzzing that we beat Palace away, been a real bogey team of ours recently

[bots]

I think people are getting carried away with Liverpool too. New manager whos style is completely different to Klopp. Klopp is a put an arm round kind of manager and Slot most definitely isnt. Also TAA, VVD and Salah's contract are up next year and I see all three of them leaving to either Saudi or to a European giant. All three of them must know its gonna be one hell of a slog for them to reach those height again at Liverpool, Bayern maybe but I cant see Liverpool being as good as they have been recently.

liverpool are a good squad at the moment, they are playing good football. Next season is a different kettle of fish :laugh:

[GiRTh]

Most pundits have them at 2nd or 3rd. Not many got them 4th and, I think, that mug Michael Owen has predicted Liverpool to win :laugh:

[GiRTh]

No its not Owen :joker: but I recall one pundit had Liverpool to win the premiership. I think next year they'll be happy with top four.

[bots]

Most of the pundits are awful. I have stopped listening to them these days

[GiRTh]

Most of the pundits are awful. I have stopped listening to them these daysYeah true. I still like to see how crazy their predictions are. :laugh:

[GiRTh]

Mikel Merino looks like he's on his way. We need one forward, preferably a striker and I think we're looking quite strong.

Timber looked good, Calafiori looked good too

[Nicky91]

Mikel Merino looks like he's on his way. We need one forward, preferably a striker and I think we're looking quite strong.

Timber looked good, Calafiori looked good too

how about Lucas Beltran? from Fiorentina


or Michael Gregoritsch from SC Freiburg?

[bots]

wtf happened to Chelsea? :laugh:

[Cherie]

wtf happened to Chelsea? :laugh:

They were on Fyah today :laugh:

[GiRTh]

how about Lucas Beltran? from Fiorentina


or Michael Gregoritsch from SC Freiburg?They'd all be godd.

Whats going on with Ivan Toney? It looks like he's played his last game for Brentford. Arsenal should make a bid

[bots]

They'd all be godd.

Whats going on with Ivan Toney? It looks like he's played his last game for Brentford. Arsenal should make a bid

Something is stopping the big teams from going in for him. It could be the salary he wants of 250k a week

[GiRTh]

Merino has signed. HE's changed his Instagram to Arsenal

[bots]

There seems to be some truth in the rumour of a swap deal between Sancho and Sterling :skull:

[GiRTh]

There seems to be some truth in the rumour of a swap deal between Sancho and Sterling :skull:I'd take either of them.

Arsenal need a forward next and we're OK

[bots]

Game on

[Crimson Dynamo]

Arsenal 1-0 Havertz

Rice gets 2nd yellow

effing Pedro scores 1-1

No Arsenal CS and everyone and his cat has Pedro https://content.invisioncic.com/Mrangmedia/emoticons/ang.png

[bots]

Brighton are playing good stuff.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[bots]

Arsenal could lose the league title today .... it's crazy :laugh:

[Nicky91]

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its a schwalbe, and you get yellow for those, so yeah a deserving 2nd yellow and therefore red

[Nicky91]

Arteta needs to change things around with a sub i think, with Rice gone from the midfield, bring off a attacker for a midfielder is what i would do

otherwise i can see Brighton winning this match

[bots]

good result for arsenal

[Crimson Dynamo]

Everton

:dog:

[Nicky91]

first point for Ipswich :cool:

something positive at least for this week, after that embarrassing cup loss vs Wimbledon

[bots]

boom, the mans back on fire

[Crimson Dynamo]

f me that did not take long

:oh:

[bots]

game on :laugh:

all you can see on the TV is bubbles lol

[bots]

lol, i think Haaland is going to win the PL this season on his own

[bots]

another hatrick

[Crimson Dynamo]

all beautifully taken goals too

[Mystic Mock]

I said to my family that "Everton can't throw away a 2-0 lead with only a few minutes to go."

Well I apologize for jinxing your team, Everton fans.

[Nicky91]

I said to my family that "Everton can't throw away a 2-0 lead with only a few minutes to go."

Well I apologize for jinxing your team, Everton fans.

well normally you can't but Everton managed to pull that off lol


but who am i to judge, i mean i managed to throw away a lead against Hearts in the ECL (as sampdoria) ultimately 4-4 draw, me qualifying as 2nd in the group instead of 1st, so i get a more difficult opponent in the knockout stage :facepalm: also in 90+5 where we went from 3-4 lead to 4-4

[GiRTh]

Dan Burn = Donkey. Glad he scored the own goal. I dont rate him at all and I remember a game where he kicked Saka up and down the line all game but didntget booked

The Rice incident yesterday was more terrible refereeing. The ball wasnt stationary show dont get the argument that Rice was preventing a restart. That ref always does something crazy when he refs arsenal. I'm not so bothered cuz w dont get too many sending offs a season so I'm glad this is happening now and not in Marsh or April next year.

If the ref hadnt sent Rice off today we'[d be saying - Rice is a luck boy to get away with that - next talking point please. It would have been given a fraction of the air time that its being give but once again a ref has decided to influence the game with a crazy decision.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Newcastle getting battered here

[Nicky91]

in all fairness i rate Spurs higher than Newcastle, so therefore i consider them the favourites that match


and i said it last season but Spurs without Kane feels so much better

[Crimson Dynamo]

Against the run of play issac makes it 2-1

[GiRTh]

Spurs :laugh:

[bots]

Spurs are making Man U look good before they even play :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Some way out results.

Stunned Chelsea and Tottenham failed to win.

[bots]

Casemiro blunder

[bots]

Another Casemiro mistake 2-0

[bots]

i gave up watching at half time :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Liverpool are miles ahead of Man U in every position

Man U are miles off

And I mean miles off

Meanwhile Liverpool continue to win and not let any goals in

[bots]

I really don't know where to start, it was so bad. The manager needs to develop a system that suits his playing squad, and he needs to pick players based on ability rather than favouritism. I supported TH being here another season, but the manager mistakes in the first 3 games are his responsibility, he may be gone before christmas

[bots]

Casemiro is Man U's version of Joe Biden

[Cherie]

i gave up watching at half time :laugh:

Me too, my blood pressure couldn't take it, they are just abysmal

[GiRTh]

But Man U fans. Ten Hag wins trophies and that all that matters....right! :laugh:

[bots]

But Man U fans. Ten Hag wins trophies and that all that matters....right! :laugh:

it's such a stupid statement from TH, we want CL football every season which means a top 4 finish

Now he is saying that it may be months before Ugarte starts because he is not fit. Why the hell did we buy him then?

[Mystic Mock]

well normally you can't but Everton managed to pull that off lol


but who am i to judge, i mean i managed to throw away a lead against Hearts in the ECL (as sampdoria) ultimately 4-4 draw, me qualifying as 2nd in the group instead of 1st, so i get a more difficult opponent in the knockout stage :facepalm: also in 90+5 where we went from 3-4 lead to 4-4

Tbf at least you only had a one goal lead.

Everton had a two goal lead with 10-15 minutes to go, those players should be ashamed of themselves.

[Mystic Mock]

Casemiro is Man U's version of Joe Biden

:joker:

[bots]

Ten Hags position is untenable. He refuses to tweak his system, and the players dont have the ability to implement what he wants. The system is also easy for the opposition to break apart, so it's never going to work. The squad is now TH players, there are no excuses left. He has to go, and it's better if its sooner rather than later

[GiRTh]

Ten Hags position is untenable. He refuses to tweak his system, and the players dont have the ability to implement what he wants. The system is also easy for the opposition to break apart, so it's never going to work. The squad is now TH players, there are no excuses left. He has to go, and it's better if its sooner rather than later:laugh::laugh:

I think my exact comment was that the cups are like putting a plaster on a broken arm. Man U will be no different this year.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ten Hags position is untenable. He refuses to tweak his system, and the players dont have the ability to implement what he wants. The system is also easy for the opposition to break apart, so it's never going to work. The squad is now TH players, there are no excuses left. He has to go, and it's better if its sooner rather than later

agree

its not going to get any better

[bots]

Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag has the backing of senior Old Trafford figures to deliver the sustained success the club craves.

------------------------

So that's the kiss of death :laugh:

[bots]

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[bots]

Eriksen in Casemiro dropped. Replace one old fart and bring in another who isn't even a DM :laugh:

Southampton are going to beat us :bawling:

[GiRTh]

Come on you reds. Forest win at Anfield.

I said dont get too excited by this Liverpool team. New manager bounce but also new manager struggles.

[GiRTh]

NLD tomorrow with a bit of a depleted Arsenal squad. I'll take a draw, if I'm honest.

[bots]

Come on you reds. Forest win at Anfield.

I said dont get too excited by this Liverpool team. New manager bounce but also new manager struggles.

great result :laugh:

[GiRTh]

WHo actually thought Villa would be top four this year. Champions league hasnt even started too.

[bots]

Slotball :hehe:

[GiRTh]

Slotball :hehe:I wonder what his nickname will be when they have a bit of a slump?:laugh::laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Had to listen to woke BBC 5 LIve in the car there for a bit, the Villa game. Kept
interrupting the commentary to tell me about some bloody womens golf
competition and some cricket t20 bollocks

I tuned in for football not minority sport

utterly unlistenable that pathetic station

and people are forced to pay for that??

[bots]

everton are exceeding all expectations this season :laugh:

[bots]

wow ... this ref is desperate to show some red cars

[GiRTh]

This idiot ref is booking everyone.

[GiRTh]

Spurs 5 players booked, Arsenal 2 players booked. I think at the end of the game the ref is gonna be the big talking point. When're these mugs gonna improve.

[bots]

Spurs 5 yellows
Arsenal 2 yellows

At half time :joker:

[GiRTh]

We got that Mug Mike Dean chatting doo doo in the studio claiming the ref just had to book all these players. No choice, apparently

How the hell has that mug now become successful pundit

[bots]

i think there were 2 potential bookings, but nothing absolutely certain

[Crimson Dynamo]

The ref in the Rangers game gave 10 yellows today. 90% were unnecessary and broke up the flow of the game. The ref had Main Character Syndrome

I hate yellows when the ref should just play on and keep the game flowing

[GiRTh]

i think there were 2 potential bookings, but nothing absolutely certainAgree and Saliba was booked for preventing a restart. There was a time when doing that meant a player was switched on, now its a bookable offence. Stupid :rolleyes:

[bots]

Spurs are dreadful in the final 3rd

[bots]

Nicely navigated by Arsenal

[GiRTh]

Good win. To beat them without two vital players. I cant wait to hear the Spurs fans tears and excuses. :laugh:

[bots]

Spurs played some nice football, but they looked clueless in the final 3rd, probably due to the arsenal defence just not giving them space

[Crimson Dynamo]

Good win. To beat them without two vital players. I cant wait to hear the Spurs fans tears and excuses. :laugh:

Just heard one on the radio blaming a "bang-average team with a bang-average manager and its all Levy's fault"

:joker:

[bots]

There does seem to be a problem with the current crop of top managers in that they seem incapable of tweaking tactics to suit who they are playing against. It all seems like basic stuff to me

[Crimson Dynamo]

There does seem to be a problem with the current crop of top managers in that they seem incapable of tweaking tactics to suit who they are playing against. It all seems like basic stuff to me

Its the same as sticking to playing out from the back after you have just had 3 big chances against you and one goal all from not being able too

Just get the goalie to hoof it into their half but no they all want be Pep but with non-Man City players

:crazy:

[GiRTh]

Just heard one on the radio blaming a "bang-average team with a bang-average manager and its all Levy's fault"

:joker::laugh:

He's kind of right about blaming Levy.

[GiRTh]

I agree and disagree about managers not being more adaptable. Ange is a good example. His methods work. He's won at almost every club he's managed so his methods get results. The problem is its gonna take too long to get the squad be his squad and thats where Mr Levy comes in. Levy has backed the project thus far but I cant ever see him paying 80 million plus for a player. He's wants 4 or 5 players for that much.

Last year Ange bought Mr Levy a bit of time after the dour anti football of Mourinho and Conte but we can see the Spurs fans are a bit impatient. :laugh: The worse thing they can do is sack Ange cuz IMO he's the best manager they've had since Poch

[Swan]

Spurs losing. And Liverpool losing this weekend is great for Chelsea's CL hopes. Villa and Newcastle winning was annoying though.

[Swan]

Top 2 will be City and Arsenal, i think 3rd and 4th has about 4 or 5 teams in with a shout this season. Chelsea need CL next season

[bots]

I agree and disagree about managers not being more adaptable. Ange is a good example. His methods work. He's won at almost every club he's managed so his methods get results. The problem is its gonna take too long to get the squad be his squad and thats where Mr Levy comes in. Levy has backed the project thus far but I cant ever see him paying 80 million plus for a player. He's wants 4 or 5 players for that much.

Last year Ange bought Mr Levy a bit of time after the dour anti football of Mourinho and Conte but we can see the Spurs fans are a bit impatient. :laugh: The worse thing they can do is sack Ange cuz IMO he's the best manager they've had since Poch

if spurs sacked Ange, who would they replace him with, Southgate? :laugh:

The manager pool has really dried up, thats why Ten Hag still has a job

[Mystic Mock]

if spurs sacked Ange, who would they replace him with, Southgate? :laugh:

The manager pool has really dried up, thats why Ten Hag still has a job

Southgate is the better Manager so why not?:shrug:

Regardless of that though, teams need to stop trying to copy Pep's tactics, most of these other Managers and teams suck at attempting it, and it just plays into Man City's hands in terms of winning trophies.

Plus it does create boring Football matches.

[bots]

Southgate is an awful manager

[Mystic Mock]

Southgate is an awful manager

He got England to two Euro finals.:laugh:

[bots]

He got England to two Euro finals.:laugh:

with the best squad of players england ever had.

[Mystic Mock]

with the best squad of players england ever had.

The Golden Generation is the best squad that England's ever had imo.

People will see just how good we had it with Southgate when the next Manager comes in, and we get knocked out of the World Cup by Costa Rica or Nigeria.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Spurs have kept just 4 cleans sheets

in their last 37 games

:shocked:

[bots]

it's the definition of insanity to keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result. It seems to me we have a lot of insanity in the premier league :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Small Angela's post match Sky interview was an embarrassment

:skull:

[bots]

if Ange and Ten Hag are both winning trophies this season, it's not leaving much for city, arsenal and liverpool to fight over :laugh:

[bots]

Arsenal captain Martin Odegaard will be out for "a while" with "quite significant" ligament damage, says manager Mikel Arteta.

A distraught Odegaard needed help leaving the pitch and had to be substituted after turning his ankle during the second half of Norway's Nations League win over Austria in Oslo earlier this month.

[bots]

why isnt the Man City court case playing out in public?

[Swan]

Dunno what it is but i can't remember a season where there is just literally no hype, and very little interest all round. I think i've watched 2 games so far this season. The new CL format is rubbish too.

[GiRTh]

Champions league formant is horrendous. YEs, we get big clubs playing against each other but its gonna be a lot of cagey games if a big club do dominate who is gonna remember the Bayern game come the final in May.

I say, Arsenal qualify for the knockouts, hopefully, then throw it in the bin and concentrate on domestic competitions. Hopefully

[Swan]

Champions league formant is horrendous. YEs, we get big clubs playing against each other but its gonna be a lot of cagey games if a big club do dominate who is gonna remember the Bayern game come the final in May.

I say, Arsenal qualify for the knockouts, hopefully, then throw it in the bin and concentrate on domestic competitions. Hopefully

Yeah the new format has put me right off. As for the PL, i hope Arsenal win it, and i never thought i'd ever say that, but man im just so incredibly bored with City's dominance now.

Probably bias, but when Chelsea "brought the league" they just didn't feel as plastic and soulless a club like City do. Can't quite put my finger on it. City do play some nice football, but i never care about watching them now. I suppose Chelsea were a really awful team to watch under Mourinho at times, going 1 or 2 up and playing keep ball possession football. But man, City just bore me to tears now.

[Swan]

Crazy to think Ipswich have not won a game, scored only 3 goals, and yet are a still above the relegation zone.

[Swan]

Also, a more ruthless team would have put 8 past West Ham today. Chelsea wont get many more easier games than that this season. West Ham were awful

[GiRTh]

Arsenal have had two players booked for delaying a restart in this game. Has any other premier league team even had one player booked for this?.

[Swan]

If Arsenal can hold on this will be huge!

[GiRTh]

Three player booked for delaying the ******ing game in the same game. WHats happening in football.

If this the rule then I think there should be a player booked in almost every game

[Crimson Dynamo]

F OFF

[GiRTh]

****ing city.

[bots]

haha arsenal get done to them what they usually do to other teams :laugh:

[GiRTh]

****ing joke. When does the case get going?

On the other hand to get a point at the Etihad will turn out to be a good result.

[bots]

it's too early in the season for it to be a critical result. It's slip ups against weaker teams that can really make the difference

[Crimson Dynamo]

when the dust settles

that is a big result for Arsenal

[GiRTh]

when the dust settles

that is a big result for ArsenalAgreed.

People have already forgotten that City were playing against ten men. Anything less than them scoring three or four is a poor performance by them

[MTVN]

when the dust settles

that is a big result for Arsenal

Not sure about that, they drew there last season as well and that was also a missed opportunity

[GiRTh]

Not sure about that, they drew there last season as well and that was also a missed opportunityGood point but it was 4-1 two years ago so two draws - one with ten men, is an improvement dont you think?

[GiRTh]

Also, I think Arsenal would have won if it wasn't for the refs influence. SO definitely an improvement.

[bots]

we all know that playing against 10 men can be very difficult, so suggesting city should have scored 3 or 4 is unrealistic.

City have navigated their biggest rival and are still top of the league with a couple of points advantage. I would say that represents a good days work

Pep is developing a siege mentality with the world is out to get us narrative, and its worked well for the likes of Fergie in the past

[MTVN]

Good point but it was 4-1 two years ago so two draws - one with ten men, is an improvement dont you think?

For sure but against City whenever they give you an inch you have to take a mile. Feel like that equaliser will be the difference between City and Arsenal winning the league this season

Nice to have a fierce rivalry again at the top of the league though, these two teams will really come to dislike each other over the next couple of years I think

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not sure about that, they drew there last season as well and that was also a missed opportunity

with 10 men (away) for 45?

:laugh:

give your head a wobble

[bots]

For sure but against City whenever they give you an inch you have to take a mile. Feel like that equaliser will be the difference between City and Arsenal winning the league this season

Nice to have a fierce rivalry again at the top of the league though, these two teams will really come to dislike each other over the next couple of years I think

i think we will get to a point where it was at the height of the arsenal/united rivalry :laugh:

[GiRTh]

we all know that playing against 10 men can be very difficult, so suggesting city should have scored 3 or 4 is unrealistic.

City have navigated their biggest rival and are still top of the league with a couple of points advantage. I would say that represents a good days work

Pep is developing a siege mentality with the world is out to get us narrative, and its worked well for the likes of Fergie in the pastTo score in stoppage time against ten men to draw at home is not a good days work. They also had an extra day to rest after the European games

AS for playing against ten is hard, you're forgetting that City are supposed to be the best in the Premier league and Europe.

Arsenal have had three of their most difficult away fixtures and this time next week we will still be in September. Nothing is ever decided in September. To come away with two wins and a draw, with ten men, is as admirable as any siege mentality you think Man City have.

[bots]

City have always ground out results over a season, they have had plenty mediocre games along the way. Suggesting that a draw was a wonderful result for Arsenal, just shows how inferior Arsenal actually believe they are

[Crimson Dynamo]

City have always ground out results over a season, they have had plenty mediocre games along the way. Suggesting that a draw was a wonderful result for Arsenal, just shows how inferior Arsenal actually believe they are

https://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/bighow.png

[MTVN]

City have always ground out results over a season, they have had plenty mediocre games along the way. Suggesting that a draw was a wonderful result for Arsenal, just shows how inferior Arsenal actually believe they are

Indeed

[GiRTh]

City have always ground out results over a season, they have had plenty mediocre games along the way. Suggesting that a draw was a wonderful result for Arsenal, just shows how inferior Arsenal actually believe they areStrange logic.

To get a point against the treble winners from two years ago is a very good result. Particularly when you see the circumstances of the game

Do you think Arsenal would have taken a point with 11 men? I dont.

Two years ago after the 4-1 so many were saying

"Arsenal are too open"

"Arsenal make too many mistakes."

"Arsenal dont have a plan B" " You cant win the league like that"

All thats changed is we are now much better defensively and a genuine threat from set pieces those same people are saying "Arsenal are too boring and need to go for it more". Almost all those players who were too open are still there. The improvement of the squad is visible for all to see.#

I disagree that Arsenal think they are way off City. I dont think so but City are very difficult to beat. You need 90 points to beat them. What I like is that Arsenal are happy to pull the plug in games like this and not keep attacking and lose 4-1 like we did two years ago

[Crimson Dynamo]

Rodri out for whole season im hearing?

[bots]

i'm finding it really amusing at the moment because Man City are in court over cheating and Arsenal are being labelled cheaters and practicing the dark arts when half the premier league are doing the same tactics every week :laugh:

[Beso]

Rodri out for whole season im hearing?

He should be back next season for their 1st away game against scunthorpe.:dance:

[bots]

I always feel sorry for any player that gets a career threatening injury, particularly someone with the skill level of Rodri. He will likely never be the same again

[bots]

Moyes must be laughing his head off at the state of west ham now :laugh:

[Nicky91]

this weekends opponent for West Ham is a important one, against a team around a similar place as theirs, just 2 places above them, so i expect them to fight for these crucial points to get out of that right side of the table zone


as for everything below West Ham


Leicester are ****** this weekend away vs Arsenal

Crystal Palace - Everton both seem pretty **** so i can't see either win there

Ipswich are up against Villa in top form (even though at home, they are chanceless)


Wolves imo chanceless at home vs Liverpool



Bournemouth and Southampton could go either way but i'd more give Bournemouth the edge there, but could also easily be a boring draw

[Swan]

Chelsea/Brighton game is mental!!

[Swan]

4 goals in 40 mins for Palmer!!! 4-2. Insane!

[Crimson Dynamo]

4 goals in 40 mins for Palmer!!! 4-2. Insane!

Just watched it, what a game

Chelsea are a team to watch at the moment

Brilliant assist from Jackson for the first and Jackson was so unlucky not to score

But another play out from the back fiasco :rolleyes:

[Swan]

Just watched it, what a game

Chelsea are a team to watch at the moment

Brilliant assist from Jackson for the first and Jackson was so unlucky not to score

But another play out from the back fiasco :rolleyes:

Yeah im really liking this Chelsea side and playing style so far. Jackson is really starting to become a complete player. I was critical of him before, saying he'll never amount to much, but he's proving me wrong. It's great stuff.

Palmer gotta be up there with one of the best Chelsea signings of the past 30 years too.

[Swan]

After 6 games, Chelsea have scored more goals than City and Arsenal. Chelsea are the top scoring team in the PL atm.

[bots]

i thought when poch got sacked that chelsea had made a bad decision, just shows what I know :laugh:

[bots]

:worry:

[bots]

bloody hell

[GiRTh]

bloody hell:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

bloody hell

Calamity goal from start to finish

[bots]

United are going to get battered here, they are making mistake after mistake

[Crimson Dynamo]

Spurs seem bang up for it

[GiRTh]

VDV ran the length of pitch and no one thought to stop him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Werner should have scored

[Crimson Dynamo]

welp

[GiRTh]

:laugh:

[bots]

no doubt it was a definite red for Bruno. TH is to blame for this because the players cant play his system and he wont adjust to suit them. TH must go

[GiRTh]

no doubt it was a definite red for Bruno. TH is to blame for this because the players cant play his system and he wont adjust to suit them. TH must goBut I thought TH wins trophies and thats all that matters.

I agree the board should have pulled the plug even after the FA cup success but they didnt and we rival fans are much happier for it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

that was a chronic half from United

[The Slim Reaper]

The famous man united went to Rome to see the pope...

[The Slim Reaper]

Go and get the Southgate

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGD3omfDdA146s8TiB5gRUKGHTCO22k fpXyw&s

[Crimson Dynamo]

Go and get the Southgate

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGD3omfDdA146s8TiB5gRUKGHTCO22k fpXyw&s

:laugh2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker: Goldbridge is having a full breakdown

[bots]

Lampard could turn this around

[bots]

:joker: Goldbridge is having a full breakdown

he is deluded, blaming everyone but the manager and saying the red was probably a red but the ref did it with a smirk on his face :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

he is deluded, blaming everyone but the manager and saying the red was probably a red but the ref did it with a smirk on his face :laugh:

last week he was tenhag in but now he is reading out all the sacked in the morning posts :laugh: